pvp

[coral wren]

50 something bp's

[sharp wing]

I had more triple than confetti bps

[coral wren]

confetti guns I have a lot

they can damage planes, very good

[sharp wing]

lel

[urban arrow]

OP pvp gear?

heck that's an upgraded SG radar
er well -10 hit +20 eva

[vague token]

oh, wow

gimmmeee

[sharp wing]

Not really

It less hit than sg

[vague token]

RWG
hololive aux

perfect for formi

[sharp wing]

more like alternative to rudder

[vague token]

is it main only or any?

cause if it's all main it's a straight upgrade over RWG

[sharp wing]

SG+this gotta be good

rather than sg+rudder

[vague token]

cv cant use sg =(

[coral wren]

where do you even get that?

[sharp wing]

from event

[coral wren]

oh really?

wow thanks man

[sharp wing]

Also i think either EN stats are fucced up on all these things

or datamine was bad

[vague token]

it's from resistance rally

[sharp wing]

It's shoved up yr face on screen

[coral wren]

thanks

[sharp wing]

cause CN has no info of increased hp on boiler

and stats on this is lower

[urban arrow]

15 & 25 🤔

[vague token]

inb4 "bug" fix and they buff the cn version

i doubt they'd keep the nerfed values on everything

[sharp wing]

idk, but half of EN thigns are "bugged"

[vague token]

like the limit break bonuses and stuff

[sharp wing]

this is such a mess atm

[vague token]

either that or they did different numbers on purpose

xD

big brain strats

[sharp wing]

lmao

tbh the values we have on EN now too op

[coral wren]

i mean, that's really good for ca's

[vague token]

it's really good for cvs

more like

[coral wren]

the stats are wrong, there's no way

[sharp wing]

the stats are surely not ok on EN

[vague token]

the last time stats were wrong they "bug" fixed to the higher value

xD

;)

[sharp wing]

well, let's hope

these stuffs are broken tho

esp for collab items

boiler w/ 500 hp and this

What was the last time we had this

Well, last time we had a bit of fucc up w/ datamine

was

[urban arrow]

what site has that info on Group Emblem

[vague token]

that is cn wiki

[sharp wing]

cn wiki

[vague token]

with google translate

[sharp wing]

there also should be datamine of items

i only seen ships

I mean, last time i was very pissed, when we didn' get datamined t3 Trento gun

[vague token]

and the ship datamine doesnt match either xD

[sharp wing]

well, a bit

or En doesn't match

[vague token]

reee

[sharp wing]

Some1 fucced up, find qwho

Some need to go lurk in ALEC

[vague token]

oh hey i saw one of the buffs

[sharp wing]

Need data from JP/CN

[vague token]

it was just called RLD INCREASE

xD

[sharp wing]

big brain

[vague token]

ill pay more attention i guess

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

oh, ok

she does DIVINING first

she actually has two pop ups

i just got ATK INCREASE

so i guess it's just all primary stats?

im assuming attack is damage and not avi

oh... one is called BOOST

who knows what that means lol

[ionic magnet]

on mio?

[vague token]

yeah

so far ive seen boost, atk increase, and rld increase

[ionic magnet]

i remember reading something like
12% rld buff
avi buff forgot how much (15% iirc)
20% first airstrike cd reduction

[vague token]

oh ok

[ionic magnet]

there are 4 i forgot the other

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367307557796053002/649457367808999424/image0.png

I tell you...

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

EN fuccing bugged

[vague token]

what if

it's cn that is bugged

;)

[sharp wing]

no u

[vague token]

no u

[sharp wing]

those things are broken

[ionic magnet]

whats broken

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

event things

[vague token]

you missed it

[ionic magnet]

same stats no?

[sharp wing]

and some ship stats

same?

lol

[vague token]

the event holo badge on EN/jp shows 35 evade, 25 hit

[sharp wing]

EN event stuff is broken stats

[ionic magnet]

that gold boiler i mean

[vague token]

the CN one has the same stats as RWG

the gold boiler shows 500 or w/e hp

[sharp wing]

en has 500 hp

[ionic magnet]

wat

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

u missed the whole thing

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

LOL

[sharp wing]

En event stuff all broken

even some ship stats

[ionic magnet]

hmm

[sharp wing]

oh boi...

[vague token]

i have 2k i can buy one right now

[ionic magnet]

but does it give 500hp ingame

[vague token]

and upgrade it to show you

uh

ill check

[ionic magnet]

yes yes

[vague token]

lemme buy the bear

[ionic magnet]

do it

[coral wren]

it's +4 but still

[vague token]

i guess ill just grab a dd

[coral wren]

already more than 265

[ionic magnet]

lol

[vague token]

well, we have to check if it actually grants the hp

using a healer or w/e

[ionic magnet]

yea or maybe even use sheffield

[vague token]

ill just slap it on akashi

[sharp wing]

EN stuff is bugged, ppl already have +10

[coral wren]

yeah that's doable, hold on

[vague token]

it should show different hp

on the heal

[sharp wing]

and it works

it's not just UI bug

[vague token]

oh ok

[coral wren]

nice

[ionic magnet]

wait its only an EN thing?

[sharp wing]

yes

[vague token]

yeah

[ionic magnet]

oof

[vague token]

you saw the CN pic

or if not it's up there

[sharp wing]

i showed u picture

[vague token]

it has exact same as boiler/kizuna one

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

And we had datamine stats

[ionic magnet]

thats really weird lol

[sharp wing]

https://pastebin.com/G0yJ1ZVW

[vague token]

have we heard about JP stats?

or are they matched to CN

[sharp wing]

so far only En reported bugged

[ionic magnet]

i always thought we have same client and codes with cn/jp

so why do we get a different item

[vague token]

i thought we had a different one

xD

[sharp wing]

We don't tho

They go so far, as copy parts of CN code

But we originally use JP assets

So in the end, it can be a big mess

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Till some point we used just JP assets

But then they started copypasting...

Since En gets some "unique" things...

[ionic magnet]

well still possible that its just translation error

@coral wren how was it

[coral wren]

didn't sagittary already tested it?

[vague token]

no he said other people tested it

[ionic magnet]

nani

[vague token]

xD

[coral wren]

oh

brb

[ionic magnet]

:UniHurt-1:

[sharp wing]

ppl already tested

[ionic magnet]

oh

and its not translation error?

[vague token]

im asking on alec jp-general if they see anything

[sharp wing]

heal works as indented

what translation?

[vague token]

someone brought it up in help channel so it's known

[ionic magnet]

like it shows 500 hp but it only gives 245

[coral wren]

so...

[sharp wing]

that has nothing to do with translation...

[coral wren]

should I do it or not?

[sharp wing]

And it's not just ui bug, that's actual stats

the things are bugged

[ionic magnet]

yea w/e the term you know what i mean

[sharp wing]

they give the bugged stats

[ionic magnet]

well ill take a boiler upgrade any day

[sharp wing]

I hope we have CN upgrade costs

as usual

It might get "fixed" too

[forest lake]

Wait is the new event boiler supposed to give 500HP? Or is it a bug or sth?

[sharp wing]

EN event items are bugged

[forest lake]

Oof

[sharp wing]

look at the image above

[vague token]

we dont know if the cn values are the intended one or ours are

to be fair

[sharp wing]

ours are broken...

you know it

there no doubt

[vague token]

i mean, i dont know. they might have intended to power creep the older collab gear

it's entirely believable that they would do that

xD

[forest lake]

I wouldn't want to deal with a tankier cockroach tho

[sharp wing]

nah

[coral wren]

will they nerf them or buff the cn/jp ones?

[sharp wing]

nerf ours

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

buffing gear to that lvl...

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

Well, I wouldn't believe that to happen, lol

[coral wren]

is the one that supposedly gives 550hp also bugged?

[sharp wing]

probably no1 has it yet

[coral wren]

how do you get that one?

[sharp wing]

it's in event score rewards

in milestones

where u get Oni

[coral wren]

15k

[sharp wing]

or was it CV?

[coral wren]

time to farm

[sharp wing]

ye 15k

so..

Some ppl have

probably

but hard to find

shows 6 hp on preview lol

click on it

[coral wren]

they transferred the hp from the tag to other items

[sharp wing]

They fucced up

Not the 1st time, not the last

[vague token]

honestly, still not as bad as daylight savings

should be far easier to fix

[sharp wing]

Fixing server timers is fuccing ez

far easier, than code

🍝

I srsly dunno how dst time change problems persist, lmao

[coral wren]

just change the time lul

[sharp wing]

And how it can selectively affect only few ppl

Tho i haven't noticed any 10 ticket ppl this season

The bug probably died off w/ DST death, lmao

[coral wren]

it doesnt' affect everyone?

[sharp wing]

no

few ppl were getting 10 tickets instead of 5 after season reset randomly

they were ofcourse purged shortly...

This was recurring for who knows how long

Anyway, i'm going to sleep and when i wake up, they better fix this mess

[coral wren]

they wont

[midnight heron]

is some weak sauce

[urban arrow]

Does teddy bear change opponent's music when used in defense fleet?

[vague token]

no idea

[urban arrow]

would be nice

[blazing scroll]

Looks like facing HMS with warkai will be fun

Still need to find one with a proper vg

[red nexus]

Just go IJN with warkai

[blazing scroll]

I run USS, no need to change

But by the looks of it I can tell that HMS with QE is a free win

QE is 🚮

[ashen lion]

Yeah, i don't use QE too

[blazing scroll]

Look who we have here

[lament lichen]

wskai junny yuki meta

have those 3 and u set

[blazing scroll]

The only "issue" with the defense fleet of Phoenix is that vg is too squishy

I end up with my entire vg alive and destroying his main fleet

[lament lichen]

its rng really for his vg

[ionic magnet]

well the real issue is its not namagi

anything not namagi is meh on def

[blazing scroll]

[ionic magnet]

[coral wren]

Hm, cent+formi doesn't fall that far from mon+ws+kgv

[hot creek]

o hai there.

[real notch]

OwO Hewwo

[hot creek]

I can swap to other HMS stuff too if you want. I still haven't been able to determine what the best guns for triple BB fleet are though.

[blazing scroll]

Dunno if you want to know how your HMS performs

I'll be sticking to me "meme" fleet

[coral wren]

I don't like 410 on ws. I think He would do more dmg with burns

[jovial mural]

So is it worth to get event items? In pvp I mean.

[sharp wing]

Well, we need to get them fixed 1st, or whatever they decide to do with it

With intended stats only new RWG for CVs...

and emblem trades toolbox heal for extra 50hp...

tho heal will give more hp probably

[jovial mural]

• is there any ship of the collab that could be interesting in pvp? I know u told me they were all willingly understated but w/e maybe u guys discovered something.

[sharp wing]

For meme

[jovial mural]

I like memes

[ionic magnet]

yea safe to say none of them will make it into meta comps

[sharp wing]

In any decent comp

Also, we get avgas + bacon in 2 days, but we need aux plates for event medal task...

[ionic magnet]

imagine using all your gen plates for oxytorps just a few days ago

[sharp wing]

That task is dumb

[forest lake]

Are damage numbers displayed before or after reductions?

[jovial mural]

Imagine not having any gen plates cause u use them as soon as you get them

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

Displayed is damage taken

[ripe latch]

6k exp cv , dumb task

[sharp wing]

I did it just by dragging Mio from lvl 1 to like 12

ub t1-t2

I think it actually counts whole feelt exp w/ CV in it

[midnight heron]

i bring lvl25 mio to t6 and she gets rekt by planes lul

300dmg per plane

[jovial mural]

[ripe latch]

[jovial mural]

[forest lake]

Thanks Sagittary

[sharp wing]

I drag Mio to dailies...

She hasn't died yet once

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

U have time

[ripe latch]

better sleep

[sharp wing]

At least we have CN upgrade for this one too

gotta +10 till they do any hotfixes

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

and make it to EN/JP costs

[ripe latch]

kms fleet , war kai , omegalul

[midnight heron]

seems like collab items all hav dat reduced cost

[sharp wing]

ye, cn copypaste as usual

[midnight heron]

i checked intelligence chip and its also 18 plates for +6 to +7

not sure if i wanna +10 it tho

[sharp wing]

Some items were never made to EN/JP costs

Some items they told they made it intentionally

for event period

I think 1st time it was on FW

[midnight heron]

yea i only rmb vf plane

anyone knows how hard is sp or the mobs lvl at least

[sharp wing]

EN wiki has info only up to T4

I'd guess T6 around 80s

and SP max 100s

[ripe latch]

t6 84~

[midnight heron]

rip

ik sp says >100 but exactly how much

hate dat about hard mode

[ripe latch]

why need hm? get more vestals?

[midnight heron]

more medal always gud

[ripe latch]

t1-t2 plates on shop , 3 weeks,not changed , not a degen

game

[coral wren]

rainbow torp + FE for ykkz or boiler + FE?

[sharp wing]

FE + boiler/toolbox

[coral wren]

So rainbow torp has no use in pvp meta basically?

[sharp wing]

,meta is stall vg

[coral wren]

stall vg?

[sharp wing]

torp meme only works on def

[coral wren]

Mean rainbow torp is for trolling purposes

[sharp wing]

You can use torp on buki

[coral wren]

but buki isn't meta

[sharp wing]

lol

she is actually

[coral wren]

I use ykkz, juneau, bel

[sharp wing]

warkaiNamagi needs 2nd ijn vg

[coral wren]

I should replace any of them with buki?

What is vg?

[sharp wing]

vanguard...

Amagi needs 4 ijn for preload buff including herself

[coral wren]

I don't feel that warkai is that strong in pvp

[sharp wing]

warkai is strong on offense

for def it's not meta

So you might not feel it

[coral wren]

I see

What else can I use my rainbow torp for in pvp, other than equip it on buki?

I feel that rainbow torp is pretty useless for pvp

[ripe latch]

yeap

[sharp wing]

for torp memes

[coral wren]

[ripe latch]

but yuki with torp can get massive crits

[coral wren]

Does ykkz really need FE in pvp?

[sharp wing]

yuki with torp can sink fast

FE is mandatory

[coral wren]

Yeah..

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

everywhere

[coral wren]

What if I use tool+boiler?

[sharp wing]

she will just die from burns

[coral wren]

The huge burn damage in pvp usually comes from BB?

Does Bel deal huge HE damage too?

[sharp wing]

burn damage depends only on FP and Gun base damage

also different gun types have different chance to ignite

Bb guns have 50%

[ripe latch]

ihr better work on bb and cv?

[sharp wing]

Cl guns 3%

[coral wren]

Yeah, they are fairly low, that's why I don't know why FE is so crucial

[sharp wing]

DD 1%

[coral wren]

Only BB has 50%

[sharp wing]

cause BB shoots rarely

[coral wren]

Then what is causing huge fire damage in pvp?

[sharp wing]

the thing is, once BB sets you on fire, VG will refresh burn duration

vg will set you on fire too

and keep refreshing

[coral wren]

So like infinite tick?

[sharp wing]

with FE chances are much lower

[coral wren]

I can't really understand the formula on wiki, but I just wanna roughly know how much is the fire damage value?

[sharp wing]

and u can easily break

[coral wren]

If I use rainbow torp instead of FE, would the damage dealt by my torps be more than the fire damage I receive?

If it is, then it should be a good trade off I think

[sharp wing]

no

yukie needs to live all the match

VG is not for dealing damage.... VG is main fleet screening...

Yukie provides dred while she is alive

and zombie

once she sinks, you are easy

[coral wren]

Should I position my juneau on top, bottom or middle?

[sharp wing]

yukie always offtank

[coral wren]

offtank means?

[sharp wing]

on offense, i prefer junie tank

on def she needs mid

[coral wren]

So junie bottom, bel middle, ykkz top?

[sharp wing]

either that, or bel tank and jun mid

depends on loadout and preference

i use bulges on both vg outside nanoda

[coral wren]

When I put junia in middle, bel almost always die first

[sharp wing]

that's the role of tank...

[coral wren]

but junie should die first right?

So that others can get heal and survive longer

[sharp wing]

Heal is meant for MAIN fleet

not VG

Junie needs to die only after main fleet takes some damage

or her heal is wasted

[coral wren]

I see

Yeah, you're right

[sharp wing]

but she works fine on tank to me

ofc if u do something like double boiler junie, she cannot tank

[coral wren]

Why double boiler junie cannot tank?

[sharp wing]

die too fast obviously...

[coral wren]

I am using boiler + pearl tears for junie right now

[sharp wing]

lol

no

[coral wren]

Is that bad?

[sharp wing]

Pearls go on bel

[coral wren]

Oh I see

[sharp wing]

you overheal

[coral wren]

Yeah sometimes

[sharp wing]

or not heal in time

[coral wren]

That's true

[sharp wing]

Junie pearl is when you have some bulky CA/CB

on tank

that needs like bulge+rudder etc.

and will not die before her

[coral wren]

I use boiler + beaver badge right now for Bel

[sharp wing]

beaver goes on main fleet...

[coral wren]

Is beaver badge useful in pvp?

Oh I see

[sharp wing]

it's kinda mandatory

for vg speed

[coral wren]

So beaver badge goes to main

[sharp wing]

unless u can slot 3 boilers

then u can drop beaver

[coral wren]

Thanks man, that

[sharp wing]

well, speed is also somewhat a preference...

[coral wren]

That's all of the questions that I have in mind

Appreciate your comments

[sharp wing]

You also can check pinned tierlist

it has gear

with some comments

[coral wren]

Oh didn't notice that

Thanks

[midnight heron]

goddamn 50k peacebreaker in sp

[sharp wing]

Didn't bring yr big gun s?

[midnight heron]

i try to bring lvling ships

[sharp wing]

is that boss only?

or elites

[midnight heron]

elite

[sharp wing]

mmm

I didn't bring asw to sub boss too

[midnight heron]

i read u dont hav to kill the sub in sp boss

[sharp wing]

not sp

[midnight heron]

just kill the other 2

ic

[sharp wing]

intermission 2 or something

[midnight heron]

yea dat one lul ts3

also i still havent figured out which one of the new ship models is the bb

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

which one is bb

[sharp wing]

peace breaker is bb

oh

I didn't pay attention

[midnight heron]

wrong ss

lul

those r same ship

[ripe latch]

hm , portland best in sp

[sharp wing]

those are not same

[midnight heron]

my portland doesnt hav gear cuz using them on other 2 ca

[sharp wing]

let's see...

[ripe latch]

31 place , well

[sharp wing]

testing this one

[midnight heron]

im just gonna guess dats bb

[sharp wing]

cruisers as expected

[midnight heron]

nuuuuuu

[sharp wing]

BB is bigger rigging

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

that's CA, not BB even, lul

Is there actual |BB?

[midnight heron]

interesting then no bb?

idk

[sharp wing]

maybe higher lvls

bigger rigging is CA, slimmer one is CL

[midnight heron]

im doing sp and theres no other variation

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

LMAO

rip caps

tried using china trio on boss and they get rekt

lvl 99 vs lvl 100

[sharp wing]

tere something wrong

chinawall can do ch12 bosses underlvled

[midnight heron]

yea i cant auto

hav to restart and manual

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

dat fking sub tho

stays out of ur vg range

so u cant depth charge

10/10 best design

[sharp wing]

u mean elite?

[midnight heron]

boss

u dont hav to kiill but she spams torps

annoying af

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

hav to kill her before her friends join in

cuz when they join she just hides behind the border

and u cant reach

[sharp wing]

I'll bring Chaser

[midnight heron]

i only brought 2 backline lul and the dps isnt enuf

[sharp wing]

boss fleet has better ratio on oil/exp for cats, so 3:3 is good

[midnight heron]

but im using ryuusei so theres dat rng

if they completely miss

when u bring trash team

[pliant copper]

I win most of them (Main: Amagi, Crane sisters; Vanguard: Ayanami, Yukikaze, Kawakaze (All are lvl120, golden equipments, 3 rainbow torps). Can someone rate this fleet (I posted this on 3 different channels by mistake)

[sharp wing]

#461381136661217283

[dusk stirrup]

[forest lake]

[pliant copper]

Oh I'm screwed.

[jovial mural]

We have to put the event item at +10 but the question is, is that event a good item? Even for pve?

[sharp wing]

If it's fixed... Same use as RWG for CVs

[vague token]

bear isnt fixed yet

still 500 hp

[sharp wing]

They weren't fixing anything

[blazing scroll]

🍝 code

[left badge]

they thought I would back off from a sad team of defenseless, delicate lolis with zero skills and low health

but they were wrong

[dusk stirrup]

[sharp wing]

[jovial mural]

[vague token]

thought i had a fun fleet to test, it was full kms instead (all 120 oathed though xD)

big rip

[left badge]

I know the feel

[shell heron]

Hi @vague token

Please move so I can see how good your fleet is

[vague token]

ok hold on

also nepnod is 99 so

lul

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

Oh she is, but she lived longer than I thought she would

I didnt leave the match fast enough and ate a +0 from you

Almost forced a reset off me by killing my junie early

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

whaaaaat, i pushed to 0

how could you

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

cay has betrayed me

=(

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

it is whatever though lists have been dead this entire season so far xD

[finite valve]

worse than a gray tool box

[sharp wing]

It's supposed to have 550

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

EN event gears are all fucced up atm

[finite valve]

aside from the asw going to max them all since CN cost atm

[shell heron]

It appears we were both losers in this scenario

[vague token]

once i max nepnod my gunnery will be great

[sharp wing]

U can tell that to yrself

[vague token]

i can

i might try kgv mid also sometime

[sharp wing]

Weekly in nutshell 👏

[ripe latch]

better then cran

[vague token]

oh subs negate danger spaces

that's... weird

[sharp wing]

It's said in tips

[vague token]

i know, i saw it in there

xD

[blazing scroll]

Nah, cranes are aux plates

[lament lichen]

Wait a minute

No sara

On kiro defense

Who is this man

[latent birch]

@finite valve where'd you get that

[vague token]

i havent had sara on defense for a while

you're late to the party

[finite valve]

@latent birch 15k point reward mile stone

[latent birch]

oooh

[sharp wing]

Kiro meme is weak

Not enough meme power

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

it's ok once i get sora to 120

it's back to dot memes

[sharp wing]

Weak

[finite valve]

until they fix their shit

[sharp wing]

EN pvp seen things, that others didn't, in more than 1 aspect

[sharp wing]

Btw, collab CA has light armor

[vague token]

reee

[sharp wing]

[jovial mural]

I know this is not really the place to ask this, but i'm searching for a guide concerning farming fleets (I'm burning too much oil farming the event), and i cant find any guide about it on the discord

[sharp wing]

there was like image guide somewehre

ell, basically all u need is BM and Zombies

LB0s for like sub 70 stuff, and can use MLBs for harder stuff

[coral wren]

Just go 1:1 with high level ships

[sharp wing]

that's too expensive

[coral wren]

Let me take BM + Mahans to t6 then

Oh look, they died

[sharp wing]

i did event SPs with mahan kais

[elder crane]

I'm actually using 0lb mahans

[sharp wing]

idk what u talking

[coral wren]

Thats not lb0

[sharp wing]

u can lb0 mahans at least t5

[vague token]

i still have too much oil, might as well just use 1:1 for me kek

[coral wren]

Ok, how much is your farming fleet then?

[elder crane]

A good BB can carry 0b mahans in safe T6 too

[sharp wing]

or lb0 phoe

anyway, if u don't farm really hard, u can run like any 2:2 fleet and be fine

[elder crane]

Event enemies feel really weak for their lv
idk why, probably bad stats on them?

[sharp wing]

well, same like kizu event

LB0 BM last map farm

[elder crane]

Or maybe it's the good ole spawning too far back to shoot at you

[vague token]

flashbacks to shoukaku elite

oh no

[elder crane]

Fusou productionss!!!

[sharp wing]

damn

[elder crane]

That was annoying af

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

yr vg would go "sindie them"

[midnight heron]

dont trigger everyone's ptsd

[sharp wing]

and get lost there

[vague token]

oh hey, nepnod 100

[elder crane]

I ran a fox just to kill it ASAP in SP

[vague token]

time to awaken

[elder crane]

If it wasn't for that shit, I could've autod 1:1 Kiz SP

[sharp wing]

Time to 🚮

well, ppl farmed last map w/ lb0 BM, just ignore Elites

[coral wren]

Not all elites, Fortune was easy af

[sharp wing]

dirt cheap

[elder crane]

Idk, sticking 1 actual ship into a team of 0lb monitor+mahans killed anything fine

[blazing scroll]

Just use portland for farming

Nobody knows how to kill portland

[sharp wing]

How to kill roon

[blazing scroll]

Roon is too expensive tho

[vague token]

im using baltimore to demolish boss fleet

[elder crane]

Roon also leaks prods a lot

[sharp wing]

she "grants sweet release" tho

[elder crane]

No actual secondaries

[blazing scroll]

This reset I got 5 people that pushed

[vague token]

why use roon when you can use baltimore and have 75% aux

[blazing scroll]

[vague token]

and more fp

;)

[elder crane]

Holy shit man

EN team messed upbig time if this is correct

Look at the eva

[vague token]

RWG
Team Emblem

[sharp wing]

yeah, it's all bugged

[vague token]

or is it ;)

[elder crane]

The bear is actually +500 HP, I tested healing on it

So I assume this is as stated too, which is

[sharp wing]

ye

and the badge has not 550 hp, but something below 100

[coral wren]

Give 1k hp

[finite valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/649643994879361034/unknown.png

+15hp at +10

worse than a gray tool box

[vague token]

lel

[elder crane]

Looks like they shifted everything down 1 line or something

[vague token]

yeah the 15 hp would go to 15 evade

which would push the 25 evade to 25 hit

so the emblem would match RWG

dunno where the 35 evade would go though

what is that supposed to be attached to?

[elder crane]

Idk
245 and 550 hp also have to be somewhere

[vague token]

[elder crane]

Quick, check the latern

Lantern asw maybe?

Inb4 245 or 550 asw on lantern

[vague token]

what, does the lantern give 245 asw

lol

which would be hilarious

[empty grove]

[dusk stirrup]

[vague token]

oh hmm

[sharp wing]

yeah

[vague token]

i mean, only get one

so one kizuna chip

one bear

still gotta use 1 or 2 plebian purple boilers

xD

[elder crane]

I'm sticking this on hiryuu

[uncut parcel]

I love this

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

But... she looks cute

[vague token]

i just want that Not SG for formidable

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

it's perfect for her

[elder crane]

Anyways, @dusk stirrup ty
Seems normal, idk how devs screwed things up then

[vague token]

maybe since some are store and some are event chain they're on different areas of the code?

so the store ones are just displaced a line

but the event chain ones arent?

[dusk stirrup]

[elder crane]

Or maybe they copy-pasted line individually and slipped on just a few

[sharp wing]

The thing is event gears have half of the values we get

eq1: 15 evade, 25 acc, equiped hololive char deals 3% more dmg

eq2: 24 asw, 120 hp, equiped hololive char takes 4% less dmg

eq3: 550 hp, change nationality to Hololive

eq4: 245 hp, 8 speed, changes battle bgm

[elder crane]

Well,
15-> 35
245->500
550->15

Seems poor copy-pasting skills to me

[sharp wing]

pretty much

Also some ships

have different stat from datamine

at least on limit break values

On EN wolf MLB gives +10 eff isntead of 5

Cn wiki shows 5% same as datamine

etc.

They did fucc up

[ripe latch]

3-5k crits
@
4% less dmg

[blazing scroll]

She's ascending

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

Memery

[vague basin]

Is Belfast good in PVP?

[coral wren]

Vs foxes

[sharp wing]

It's one best all around botes, not just vs foxes

[vague token]

solid all rounder

helps shield you from foxes and nagato's first barrage

good durability and good pressure from reasonable torp stat and a useful gun skill

[sharp wing]

top vg dps and good tank

[vague basin]

So can I build a fleet around her?

[vague token]

more like she fits in most fleets

[sharp wing]

U don't build fleets around vg

[vague token]

unless you are doing some meme you dont build around the vg because their relative durability vs damage output is small compared to the main

[sharp wing]

And meta vg is always same

[vague basin]

Ok

[sharp wing]

Junie+Nanoda+X(Bel)

[vague token]

once you understand pvp mechanics then you can start changing vg for fun

except juneau

juneau never leaves

ever

=(

[sharp wing]

Funny, i haven't used her in pvp till summer

[vague token]

i mean before the max hp was lower

[coral wren]

I don't use her at all

[sharp wing]

before cancer

[vague basin]

So about main... what should I build then?

[vague token]

that's up to you

[sharp wing]

what u have?

Amagi nagato? hms event sships?

or u new

[vague basin]

Nope :/... pretty new

[sharp wing]

then..

Non event HMS...

[vague basin]

Ok I will come back next year

[sharp wing]

Or foxes if u fancy

[coral wren]

Hood/Foxes

[sharp wing]

hiryyu foxes at least

but now it's warkai foxes

with warkai it's really anything pretty much

Work on warkai and monarch

[vague token]

hiryuu foxes will be more annoying for new to grind up compared to wsfoxes

cause hiryuu in pve xD

[sharp wing]

don't see problem

[vague token]

i mean it's more of a waste compared to farming up ws

[sharp wing]

it's warkai now anyway

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

I mean, anything better than Hood

[vague token]

wskai is also great in pve so

saves resources

[sharp wing]

Hood foxes is like 2k18

or at least lvl 100 cap

[vague token]

xD

[jovial mural]

Stop criticize hood

[vague token]

skip directly past hood

go directly to wskai

;)

[sharp wing]

Hood is bae, but not on the battlefield

I have 120 200 one too...

[coral wren]

She's too old

[elder crane]

Warspite is older though

[sharp wing]

"Tired of war"

[coral wren]

Warspite is sexier

[sharp wing]

They changed something in her name on cn wiki... Or google began to trsnslate it differently

[coral wren]

She doesn't wear pants

[sharp wing]

throws cat ears headband with killing intent

[coral wren]

Stop, or I'll call your big sister

👈

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

dork is the superior vampire

where is her lore though

;)

[sharp wing]

Irisviel

[coral wren]

I'm sorry, but DoY is a discount vampire at best

[sharp wing]

dork is dork

U don't pat her, she pats you

[vague token]

also purple heart

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

Best Vampire

[sharp wing]

PH w/ her 3 barrages

well, 2

[vague token]

2 plus a fake vanguard one

xD

[sharp wing]

ye

"Game Ender"

[vague token]

it would be neat to see a vanguard barrage that is based on your gun

[coral wren]

ph?

[vague token]

like what's her name that checks your torp slot

[sharp wing]

purple heart

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

🚮

[sharp wing]

Come closer, boi

pvp time

[coral wren]

They are destined to rot in my dock forever

[vague token]

i already blew all my matches for cay

but he betrayed me

;)

[sharp wing]

he will get karmaed

[vague token]

if only black heart had mgm+1

reee

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

armor ignoring skill

and then they gave it to an ijn destroyer >___>

[coral wren]

are you guys farming t6?

[vague token]

just started it

xD

[coral wren]

looking for a cheaper fleet

[sharp wing]

Those hairy torpedoes are hideous

[shell heron]

I messed up and didnt back out in time

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

[coral wren]

contact me if you can farm t6 with a mob fleet that costs less than 20 oil

[elder crane]

Apparently Saint-Louis + 0lb monitor works if you avoid CV nodes (apparently don't need to avoid sirens)

[vague token]

id probably wait until safe though

since that sounds like a 2 move fleet

xD

or 1

since skill speed wont factor in X_x

[coral wren]

@elder crane Bruh

That was me

[elder crane]

oh lol

:teehee:

[sharp wing]

• Phoe

[midnight heron]

personally never found the point of lowcost fleet since oil is so abundant lul

• it takes forever to kill shit with 0lb

[shy hazel]

im a loser finally this season

lost 3 resets

too buay in pricon

[sharp wing]

But you are a loser each season, wdym

[coral wren]

When you play all day every day you want to save as much oil as possible

[sharp wing]

All day... get a lyfe

[vague token]

i mean even all day you should be fine running 1:2 or 2:1

[empty grove]

I beg to differ

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

[ionic magnet]

funny how i levelled 2 erebus (lb0 and lb1)
but never used them for low oil farm
just thinking about all the wasted affection/exp kills me

[empty grove]

I have a 0lb oathed terror

[coral wren]

yeah, t6 has great exp

[empty grove]

& level 120 erebus

[sharp wing]

I also have few things for lb0 farming i never used, lol

All the time u instead lvl/aff someone

[still minnow]

the teddy bear in the event shop

is an upgraded boiler

just fun fact

[elder crane]

For EN only
Cause devs were drunk and/or high af when making EN patch
3/4 equips have wrong stats, and at least Mio has wrong stats

The minigame reward equip is at +35 eva +25 hit
New best aux for any main fleet ship for PvP

[vague token]

cv fun times

also the faction conversion gear gives 15 hp

it's clear that should be the evasion stat on the minigame one

and it should have 500 hp like the kizuna headband

but the 500 hp is on the bear atm

[sharp wing]

it's not so tho

[vague token]

or rather it would be consistent with kizuna if it was moved like that

xD

[sharp wing]

not all stats are numbers from another gear, only 1-2 match

[elder crane]

It's supposed to be 550 HP actually

small bonus over box stats, like headband's +2 luck

[sharp wing]

eq1: 15 evade, 25 acc, equiped hololive char deals 3% more dmg

eq2: 24 asw, 120 hp, equiped hololive char takes 4% less dmg

eq3: 550 hp, change nationality to Hololive

eq4: 245 hp, 8 speed, changes battle bgm

that's original stats

[vague token]

minus the asw one, the others are consistent with kizuna xD

[sharp wing]

just a pattern, lazy work

[elder crane]

battle bgm triggers in PvP which is nice
hope they keep that, I quite like the song selection

Still am curious if enemy ship with it can trigger song change

[sharp wing]

I actually haven't played event w/ sound

[vague token]

oh sp boss is sub

X_x

[sharp wing]

it has sub in it

[vague token]

didnt look at who it was

[sharp wing]

u don't have to kill it

it's just like one of preboss elite spawns

[vague token]

oh

that's weird

[sharp wing]

might take chaser with u next time

if it bothers

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

yhave to lvl her anyway

chaser wolf and something