pvp

[elder crane]

It's actually an upgraded engine

[sharp wing]

OP pls nerf

nanoda yukikaze sama

enters new lvl

[elder crane]

And the music skill activates in PvP

Goddamn

[sharp wing]

Implying u dun play muted

At max i have voices on

[elder crane]

Hey, gotta listen for Hiryuu screaming

[sharp wing]

well, ye, I sometimes turn voice on to know when they done battle on alttab

But music

[midnight heron]

new meta

[sharp wing]

U can mlb npc, but cannot limit break

Is that thing a bear plushie?

the new boiler?

[plain carbon]

new boiler?

Did I miss something?

[sharp wing]

Don't see 500 hp

Some1 actually bought it?

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

]

This thing sure

It's technically kizuna headband

faction addition

[vague token]

neat i guess

i could use that with team dot

give someone extra dr

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

too bad kizuna has no team buff

ultimate meme power, kizuna band plus holo badge

[sharp wing]

There more like kgv ship

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

Reverse team buff

Not you buff team, but team buffs you

[vague token]

i guess i could toss ykkz with holo buff?

xD

[sharp wing]

Stop memeing

[vague token]

never!

[sharp wing]

O-onii-chan?..

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

or a cl i guess

or formidable tank for extra dr xD

[sharp wing]

Got maido skin

[vague token]

hard choice

belfast skin?

oh yeah that is today xD

[sharp wing]

Time to go shopping

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Maido got my wallet

It's funny coincidence tho... Maido skin + QTkai

on same day

It was a trap all alone

[vague token]

i was thinking about christmas ws but retro is good

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

just noticed t1 drops basic charges

[elder crane]

Yeah, in EN bear is bugged, gives 500 HP apparently
At least, stat panel says that, who know if it's true (backend and panel stats aren't hardlinked)

[ripe latch]

EN
bugs

[sharp wing]

I mean, Armor still doesn't change armor in stats tab

[elder crane]

I've confirmed it, it does give more HP
More healing with it mounted than with engine

[lament lichen]

lol more bugs i assume

[vague token]

xD

ui isnt a bug though

since they hard code effects it is probably just a typo

[blissful girder]

What's the meta HMS backline with warkai arrived? WarKai positioned to snipe Hiryuu/Enty, then Centy and Formi?

[elder crane]

QE and Monarch
Or Cent subbed in there somewhere
Formi and KGV don't synergize with warkai,might still be worth a try

[blissful girder]

Got it. Is there a way to get warkai to smack enemy flagship, or will it always be the flanks?

[elder crane]

Snipe is on Amagi actually

[blissful girder]

warkai*

[elder crane]

Hiryuu snipe is the worst option

[blissful girder]

Oh interesting

got it

I guess her invuln eats a trigger of divine marksman?

[elder crane]

She stalls out team too much, plus she always gets final counter and first airstrike off anyways
In terms of DpS ignoring final counter, she's the lowest of namagi

[blissful girder]

got it

[elder crane]

Better to focus down amagi first, cuts into enemy damage more, can do it faster, and reduces remaining survivability a lot too

[blissful girder]

[vague token]

and restores your stats

to full fp/avi

[sharp wing]

IDK what ppl actually think when they focus hiryuu 1st, lol

It's like totally countering yrself and warkai

She will counter 2 ws barrages at least

• mona if same lane focus

[blissful girder]

[sharp wing]

Like you tie yr hand behind yr back

And play with the 1 is left

[lament lichen]

lol why kill hiyruu first

she jsut invuls the other barrages

and kills you cuz more dps

[sharp wing]

That's the question i ask all the time

ppl desperatly go for hiryuu 1st

[young mulch]

Is QE better than centaur in that backline

[sharp wing]

qe buffs warkai

[lament lichen]

QE is a pernament stat buff

[sharp wing]

and mona

[lament lichen]

centaur is just there for damage and stuff

[sharp wing]

cent won't buff early barrages

warkai or early mona barrage

cent has more punch than QE ofc

[young mulch]

What gun do you put on ws

[sharp wing]

izumo gun

[lament lichen]

that one

[sharp wing]

triple 410 pr

combined w/ white shell for bic crits

more like 5

lol

[vague token]

i could make a bunch but why bother xD

[sharp wing]

they drop from projects plenty too

I only crafted 2

[young mulch]

Triple 381 or twin for monarch?

[vague token]

time to make more fireworks ;)

[sharp wing]

if max dev triple 381 can work

makes her not that bad after she kills her lane

good shelling w/ good reload

before dev 30 I stick to twin

[young mulch]

Sounds good thanks

[lament lichen]

i just realized i gave wskai the tripe 381

lul

[finite valve]

english is not my main language but this sentence seem wrong to me

[lament lichen]

remains broken

ok

[sharp wing]

Sound right to me

plebs drag you down, gotta solo

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

WF in nutshell

I'll break yr bonesbonds

I still laugh how Zuizui was confused about cat ears on kawaiikaze sister

Like wtf really

That's totally not fox

[vague token]

i mean, zui is like the strongest in combat power not in think power

[sharp wing]

I mean, we tried to gues what is Kawaiikaze

|It's same artist

[vague token]

the strongest

[sharp wing]

I browsed their pixiv

All foxes are weird like that

cat? fox? doge?

[vague token]

her tail is weird

[sharp wing]

ears too

[vague token]

im still wondering if the CA armor break works on all ships

xD

if it triggers at 15 that sounds fun

[sharp wing]

u mean at all armors?

[vague token]

pew pew

yeah like the ap dive bomber

is it ONLY heavy or is it all

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

50% break rate at the 15 sounds good

[sharp wing]

She is still shitte

real paper

At least gunboat

mg eff is atrocious tho

worse than portkai

[coral wren]

It doesn't say in the skill, so just heavy

[vague token]

yeah it's super bad

[sharp wing]

like indi-chan

[empty grove]

[vague token]

the ap dive bomber doesnt say in its skill does it?

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

like in game

[coral wren]

Balti skill does

[vague token]

i mean it isnt like skill descriptions have consistency

xD

[sharp wing]

dive bobmer says

[vague token]

oh, i havent actually google translated it xD

but ok

actually wow her stats are trash

[sharp wing]

en wiki

[vague token]

kizuna CA is actually way better

[sharp wing]

told you, lol

[vague token]

kizuna CA is godlike compared to this

[finite valve]

animal ears > rest

[sharp wing]

Kizu ca and bb were OP at 100... Too bad they have shit stat growth at 120 and become trash

[finite valve]

fite me

[vague token]

i mean

[sharp wing]

Like regular BCs

[vague token]

even 120 kizuna has 5k hp

and 15% dr

from HE

and another 15% if you run 0 kizuna ships

so that 5k turns into a lot more really fast

so if you want a stationary wall she does that well

[sharp wing]

She gain whopping 4 eva 100>120

[vague token]

lel

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

just toss rudder on, 15% dr + 15% dr is good enough for 80-90 evade

[sharp wing]

She has same 110% mg tho...

[vague token]

like i said, she's a just a wall

not even a tank

just a wall

[sharp wing]

not even a wall

a sandbag

[vague token]

with CA bonus in pvp she'd take 39% less total damage than other ships vs HE

xD

[sharp wing]

And yeet some torps up her face

CV would be bigger problem probably

[vague token]

she still gets the other 15 at least

her aa is better than holo

225 > 170

xD

how is the holo CA this garbo

i think she's worse than black heart

[sharp wing]

It's not SR

[vague token]

and black heart is bottom of the bin

[sharp wing]

Black, black heart

[vague token]

and her only cool perk was taken by kitakaze

xD

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

because big brain destroyer gunnery

[ripe latch]

on jp kitakaze usable pvp?

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i mean she's better than running any other destroyer

that isnt ykk

[sharp wing]

If u are not Nanoda Yukikaze-sama => 🚮

repeat

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

ill try her out eventually for gunnery memes

probably worse than just using sandy

but she does have mgm+1

so

honestly mgm+1 and preload isnt that bad

armor ignore with duck gun

i could skip a boiler compared to normal

too bad her FP is 86 >_>

[sharp wing]

She looks atrocious

[vague token]

why cant she have like

120 fp

or something

[sharp wing]

Look at Goddess Sandy's glory

[vague token]

lel

why must they give a dd gun armor ignoring skill on a ship with sub 100 fp

reeeeee

and mgm+1

ultra triggered

[sharp wing]

Fabled IJN gunlovery

[vague token]

should have given that skill to z23

that would actually make sense

[sharp wing]

Devs hate KMS

[vague token]

not like z23 would be good with armor ignoring skill

[sharp wing]

Not like she is bad

[vague token]

but that would make her leagues better

xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

175 efficiency, 100% crit rate om nom nom

[sharp wing]

z vanguard is pretty gut

esp w/ z1 now actually being torpbote

[vague token]

yeah too bad you can only run 1 xD

maybe 2

[sharp wing]

who

[vague token]

i mean if you run juneau you only have room for z1 + whoever

[sharp wing]

well, not pvp ofc

[vague token]

oh

i mean then you can do w/e

xD

and if i want to run gun memes i am forced to run aurora

unless i want to never hit enemies

lel

[sharp wing]

U can run Roon w/ jun nanoda

but that's it

[vague token]

le sigh, if only there were other ships with aurora debuff

to open up more gunnery options

(non-stacking of course)

like some eagle radar boat

helena retro cough

[sharp wing]

Naga

buff yr acc

[vague token]

i prefer hit/evade rate skills

kthx

[sharp wing]

stat boost not bad on vg w/ 150+ acc

[vague token]

arent there those ijn destroyers with hit rate vs destroyers

those weird ones

[sharp wing]

asashio ooshio

lol

swiftsure has one

[vague token]

oh wait

en wiki shows them as accuracy boost

that's uh

very different

cause in game says hit rate

[sharp wing]

eva rate is only in aurora skill

rest are acc

so stat boost

[vague token]

well, warspite is a hit rate boost

[sharp wing]

Have u ever seen Acc rate?

[vague token]

honestly i dunno why they differentiate hit rate boost vs evade rate penalty

must be spaghetti code thing

[sharp wing]

wait, swiftsure also can debuf evarate on hit

on top of acc buff to DDs

but her acc buff is self only

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

so she can debuff 10% rate

But it's 10% and she cannot use DD guns

[vague token]

i SUPPOSE the advantage of a hit buff

instead of hit rate

is you get a marginal crit boost

aka less than 1%

xD

[sharp wing]

well, vg hit buff can be bigger

than rate buff

rate buff good for main ships

[vague token]

doubt it?

when will 10% or 20% hit ever be better than 20% evade rate penalty

unless you rock 200+ base hit

it will never match

[sharp wing]

well, not 35%

but if same

and i'm talking acc buff vs acc rate

[vague token]

oh ok

[elder crane]

With how it works, a same %hit buff is always worse than a %rate buff

[sharp wing]

cause some vg has 200+ hit

[vague token]

like how much base hit would you need for hit buff to be as good as hit rate

xD

need accuracy calculator lel

[elder crane]

Actually it also has diminishing returns

Same sorta scaling as eva stat

[vague token]

well it goes in the same formula

so that makes sense

bottom part is hit + eva of target

[sharp wing]

The problem is we don't have hit rate buffer anyway

for CVs

ye

[vague token]

no team buff yeah

warspite and the shios are self only

against destroyers xD

[sharp wing]

shios are stat buff

[vague token]

is it though?

is en in game translation bad?

[sharp wing]

description says acc not hit rate

[vague token]

the in game says hit rate

[sharp wing]

wiki acc

[vague token]

was what ever good

[vague token]

yeah but that's just a translation

xD

does the warspite line use the same characters?

for its hit rate?

lemme look

[sharp wing]

ooshio

ws hit rate

same as wiki

[vague token]

big thonk

[sharp wing]

but asashio ooshio wiki say acc

[vague token]

inb4 warspite's is actually a hit stat buff

lel

[sharp wing]

deportation

[vague token]

that sounds like hit stat

accuracyToShipType is hit stat probably?

what does warspite appear as xD

[sharp wing]

need ws skill

[vague token]

time to complain in feedback

[sharp wing]

to comapre code

[vague token]

no, the yellow

[sharp wing]

not

second skill

[vague token]

the royal navy legend

in en

xD

ok time to complain to wiki

feedback

[sharp wing]

The One who Spites war

Tell them to add all plane stats to comparison tables

I tried 2 times already

Half of wiki team dunno what they even do

[vague token]

to be fair, none of them are pvp regulars

so those stats dont matter

;)

[sharp wing]

They should just leave old tables

[vague token]

another dead reset

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

guess this season is a wash

[sharp wing]

Did u call Wash?

[vague token]

no i use alabama now xD

[sharp wing]

same

[vague token]

uh oh

same attribute

[elder crane]

%hit is (hit)×(eva)/(hit+eva)^2 as good as %hitrate, roughly

[sharp wing]

but accuracytoship sounds like stat boost..

[elder crane]

Wait that's pretty sigmoid
Aka the highest value is when hit=eva

So the more your hit and their eva is mismatched, the worse %hit is
Well, not actually that surprising

[vague token]

wait, the top doesnt have hit times evade though

unless i misremember formula

or do you mean theoretical

[elder crane]

That's because the buff is %

Buff is % of base eva stat, so obviously effect should scale with base eva stat

Ignoring other parts of formula

[vague token]

oh i mean i thought formula was just Hit / (hit + evade + 2)

or w/e

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

then the luck part

and the free 10%

why is hit still hidden reeeee

[elder crane]

Basically, linear taylor expand of hitrate with respect to currenthit
i.e. take derivative of hitrate vs eva stat
i.e. derivative wrt hit of hit/(hit+eva+2)
(Eva)/(eva+hit+2)^2

Multiply by effect size, which scales with hit

[vague token]

xD

well, too bad we have the boring formula

instead of the reasonable one

lel

[elder crane]

Anyways, there's the sigmoid you want
%hit (and %eva?) most effective when hit and Eva roughly equal

[hot creek]

its okay, my highest math is Alegebra 2

[vague token]

cause like in current

[hot creek]

I dun not understood these terms

[elder crane]

At best 1/4 though
That is, a 4% hit buff is worth at best 1% hitrate, roughly

[vague token]

yeah that sounds right

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i tried just punching in current numbers

it's like 4:1

hit is definitely worse than hit rate

[sharp wing]

well, no

[vague token]

20% hit buff goes down to about 4-5% hit rate

but either way, EN wiki or in game is wrong

on warspite/shios

cause the code is the same attribute

[sharp wing]

wait

check code for aurora skill

[vague token]

but wiki has different descriptions

xD

that one is a debuff though

[sharp wing]

what is stat for eva rate

doesn't matter

we see how that rate stat goes

[vague token]

it'd be like evadeToShipType_1 probably xD

[sharp wing]

"probably"

[vague token]

or who knows

spaghetti

[sharp wing]

that's the question

if it's same, then it's indeed rate

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

well, u can actually check Amagi, yatsen

anything with rate

just need stat value name

RATE

it has rate

think amagi gonna have same stat with positive value

well, now we need to check coding for not rate acc buff

k

Rating...

attr ratio

lel

cause ratio not in %

they basically would add like 2k%

with non ratio value

so, anything that is in % is rate, and decimals is stat buff

stat increase

not rate increase i mean

[vague token]

so wait is nagato a hit rate then xD

[sharp wing]

nah

[vague token]

oh

that is a weird name

[sharp wing]

well

should name it accuracy rate or something

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

what it did

[vague token]

id just call it accStat

lol

[sharp wing]

REEEEEEEEEEE Ui bug still not fixed

gives me sad flaskbacks how some critical bugs persisted for 5 years in WF

[finite valve]

queue the "the game is still in alpha / beta theme song"

[sharp wing]

I mean, that's Not Critical bug

Situation i'm talking about is reverse duration in skill calculation of one of characters

When yr DoT skill actually maximizes damage with minimal duration, like literally negative duration, as much as u can get, and whole toolkit of skills is duration based, so it literally fuccs u up in any possible build, not based around using 1 skill, lmao

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

That lasted for roughly 5 years

Got fixed only character rework happened and basically renewed skillset, lol

so it actually wasn't "fixed"

like basically rewritten code

[spice pagoda]

what would be a better vangaurd: ykk/sandy/ibuki or ykk/sandy/jint

[sharp wing]

Junie+yukikaze + whatever

buki/jint

if u have max dev buki, she will work fine

[vague token]

lel

[sharp wing]

Well, just throw out Sandy

Even if u dun sue junie

[vague token]

when can we have 4 vg like story fleet

kek

[sharp wing]

when can we have 5:5

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

like in other warship games

Imaging maneuvering 5 vg

Some of those 3d/arcade warship games have 5 ship or 6 ship moving fleet

[vague token]

muh rollback net code

[sharp wing]

[spice pagoda]

i dont need juneau, i was just curious what would be better between the 2 trios i mentioned

[sharp wing]

I go for buki

that is if she dev 30

[vague token]

buki

[sharp wing]

better max fate

sandy has no torps

[ionic magnet]

just drop sandy and go jint buki ykkz

[vague token]

sandy is a gun dps

[sharp wing]

Jint doesn't buff buki

[spice pagoda]

nah sandy is for

[ionic magnet]

rip

[sharp wing]

buki+aurora

[vague token]

avrora ibuki juneau

[sharp wing]

btw, buki buff is Rate

[vague token]

do it

[spice pagoda]

ibki would have 95% crit damage

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

well buki has more flex power cos PR

[sharp wing]

buki has more punch and beef

even on non torp build

regular ca build

why u surprised

[vague token]

sanrui has no preload

[sharp wing]

sanrui/roon has n preload, and gun damage...

[vague token]

and ca guns are a meme

[ionic magnet]

sanrui baited lots of ppl lol

[sharp wing]

Not me tho

[vague token]

if sanrui had mle dd in first slot

[sharp wing]

Only got my 💍

[vague token]

big dps

[sharp wing]

[spice pagoda]

i got sanrui to 120 this morning.
all i have to say is if she didnt give +1 EVA for 120 i would have been extremely disappointed

[vague token]

lel

[sharp wing]

qeq

she is good for pve mobbing

gunboat is gunboat

[spice pagoda]

i had my Sirius with no CV's outdpsing her from time to time 5 levels lower

[vague token]

baltimore is my preferred pvp CA gunner

london fp too low =/

[sharp wing]

siri has torps

[ionic magnet]

out of refreshes and nothing to test with

[sharp wing]

tho not that strong either

[ionic magnet]

feelsbadman

[sharp wing]

just fight some1

and see next list

baited no bonus

[ionic magnet]

[spice pagoda]

i havent actually tried at pvp in a while, but i ran out of cog chips to awaken stuff so i cant abuse it for xp

[sharp wing]

who

[vague token]

rip

[sharp wing]

i got 208 bps

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

and she is like dev 26

event 30 bps

[spice pagoda]

i needed 2 prints to get my ibuki to dev 30 today and i gave in.

[sharp wing]

Join Good civ

[hot creek]

wao anniversary party get their own color? I totally wouldve gone if I'd known that

[vague token]

lol

[hot creek]

LA is only like an hour away drive from me.

[sharp wing]

I like being neutral

[finite valve]

clearing mode doesn't remove the gate keeping shit from t5 right?

[sharp wing]

chaotic nbeutral

[jovial mural]

What do u think concerning KMS comp in pvp?

[sharp wing]

#461381136661217283

[jovial mural]

Knew it

[sharp wing]

It was a trap all alone

[ripe latch]

[safe meteor]

is that teddy bear thing better than the boiler?

[vague token]

if it actually gives the full hp yeah

[sharp wing]

It's probably bugged for now

[safe meteor]

why is that?

[sharp wing]

It's not supposed to give more hp

[safe meteor]

so it also changes BGM?

[sharp wing]

just gold boiler, like kizuna

ye

[safe meteor]

which BGM and does it work everywhere, even in pvp?

[sharp wing]

works in pvp, and in event, idk about normal maps

[safe meteor]

does it activates if enemy equips it?

[sharp wing]

probably not

lvl 22

so

what lvl is 1-2

Well, u know now

abusing waifus

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

about what

Serious questions there tend to be ignored

[vague token]

X_x

[sharp wing]

Just don't crash during pvp

That tends to be -1

ticket permanently

[ripe latch]

enemy foxs with ihr , true degen shikkans

[real notch]

alright

which one of these new event ships are PVP worthy

[sharp wing]

For collab ships to be pve worthy is already good

[vague token]

0 collab ships are pvp worthy kek

the only collab ship that could ever be anything was kizuna CA

[sharp wing]

Well, at least they stopped making collabs like Totally useless

[vague token]

because big damage reduction

[sharp wing]

like early collabs

[vague token]

i dont understand why all collab vanguards have to have only a 20 second barrage

[sharp wing]

Tho in case of Neps, IF/CH asked for them to be poo poo

Not all have barrage at all

[vague token]

like it's 99% consistent that if the vanguard has a barrage, it's a 20 second one

[sharp wing]

well, there longer barrages

[vague token]

good old oh boi, run right into rudder proc

[sharp wing]

this time 1 ship 25, and that purple heart 100+ secs barrage

[vague token]

purple heart has 2 barrages

one is at the 20

xD

[real notch]

so

who has ws kai in their pvp fleets already

[vague token]

and a fake vanguard barrage (auto crit every 6 shots)

me

[sharp wing]

every1

[real notch]

i just oathed mine

lmao

[vague token]

same

[sharp wing]

qeq

my been 200 for a while but not 120

[real notch]

she's 119

[sharp wing]

i lvled her in pvp last week

[real notch]

but 100 affection

[vague token]

120 but just oathed here xD

[sharp wing]

119 too

I lvl my non ws hms in pvp now

Will get back to ws later

[vague token]

but yeah i hope they stop designing barrages around 20 seconds

or anything really

or delete rudder proc

;))))

[sharp wing]

rudder proc is meme

[vague token]

(also eldridge or owari da procs for what it's worth)

[real notch]

alright

so what's bis for ws

[sharp wing]

sec

[vague token]

bis? who knows xD

it depends on who she's paired with probably

[sharp wing]

u mean gear or comp

[real notch]

hmmm

is anyone trying ws + foxes

i might try that

[sharp wing]

try

[vague token]

like, i imagine ws + fox runs shell/fcr?

for the all in

[sharp wing]

fast reset or fast win ver.2

[real notch]

or is everyone just namagi + wskai

[vague token]

personally ive seen 0 wskai in my lists

but my lists are ultra dead

so

(im using ws/amagi/formidable atm though )

team wait for ws to kill everyone with shared damage reduction

[sharp wing]

Sounds sad

[vague token]

sadly nothing to test it on

=(

[sharp wing]

wat, one of this maps has sub boss...

[vague token]

yeah

[real notch]

ok well i'll give it a try

good time to level my foxes too

[sharp wing]

I have nothing w/ asw on map...

what a dumb thing

[vague token]

just take the b rank

;)

or is it a

how long do you wait again for auto surface? xD

[sharp wing]

she surfaces?

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fair enough

[sharp wing]

never fought sub for so long

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im pretty sure that's a mechanic

if you wait like until 30 seconds left they just pop up

[sharp wing]

I don't thinks she does...

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rip

[sharp wing]

or you wouldn't need asw

if subs could do asw I'd just summon subs, lol

[vague token]

Elite enemy submarines (bosses) will surface after about two minutes and five seconds and be susceptible to all forms of damage. Note however that taking this long will prevent getting S-rank.

although that might not apply to event

so yeah if you want to wait 2 minutes+ to kill boss you can, xD

[sharp wing]

she surfaced and insta died

at 55 secs left

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yeah

[sharp wing]

A rank

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where's my helicopter girl

there she is

[sharp wing]

Anyways it's intermission

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i have a dedicated asw fleet xD

[sharp wing]

i have 2

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two owo

[sharp wing]

boss and mob

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using asw in mobbing

that's big brain

[sharp wing]

i mean for SOS

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i know

i just eat the ramming damage

xD

[sharp wing]

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if you kill all the surface fast enough you dont take much anyways

;)

[sharp wing]

well, i lvl DDs in sos

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ah

that's fair

[sharp wing]

well, more like aff farm

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[sharp wing]

i have all hms retroes done like this

[vague token]

i just got ardent (retro) to 100

xD

[sharp wing]

I don't spare bulins for those yet

they are 70 lb0

[vague token]

well, ardent has the perfect kit for asw, she buffs cvl damage ;)

and also reduces cvl damage taken

[sharp wing]

cvl is irrlevant...

[vague token]

gotta use my planes

[sharp wing]

Use Warkai

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but i just use solo chaser x_X

[sharp wing]

for mob?

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no

i dont use any asw on mob xD

[sharp wing]

for boss i sue her

[vague token]

like i said, just tank ram damage ;)

[sharp wing]

well, that's...

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if you kill the surface fast enough you dont tank many hits ;))

[sharp wing]

ye

but not when u have dd squad

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rip

[sharp wing]

my current iteration is uss

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yeah my actual asw is just koln/avrora/ardent

for ultra meme

[sharp wing]

koln

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stacking those mods

[sharp wing]

i use z vanguard slowly lvling in asw boss

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nice

[sharp wing]

they are too nuts tho

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i just put sonar on avrora since she is just there to buff vanguard charge damage by 35% lel

[sharp wing]

z23 + z1 crit deep charges is

z46 is most hilarious DD

[vague token]

do depth charges count as ap?

xD

[sharp wing]

they count as Deep Penetration

z46 w/ her huge hp and 40% eva buff of z1 is hella tanky, and her brainded aa, lol

and she spams that barrage w/ homing torps all the time w/ duckgun

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

her 160% mg too

skill buffs her ap barrage

small little barrage tank

[ripe latch]

enty dmg to war kai - 3-4k crits , noice

[sharp wing]

warkai 1 shot enty in return

[ripe latch]

not see problem , enemy 120 oath war kai

[sharp wing]

wartkai is bad on def anyway

it's offense thing only

dr most likely prevents oneshots

and u can just block her

[ripe latch]

block war kai another war kai

[sharp wing]

that will work too

so giving yr warkai away is bad

U can feed Qe to her

200 IQ plays

qe buff persists after death

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

and she is useless basically outside buff

[ripe latch]

not rn player

[sharp wing]

then eva stacked amagi

or hiryuu

[ripe latch]

not und why did retro war

-coins

[sharp wing]

shiny

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

qtkai

I might try namagiwarkai later, when done lvling hms and my buki ready

Nut i have hms to lvl for weeks

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

week is like quarter of lvl at 119

[vague token]

wait is famine top xD

[sharp wing]

why?

Fam should sandbag

[vague token]

that is event boi

[sharp wing]

oh

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lel

[sharp wing]

I didn't even look

lel

just rank

[ripe latch]

start

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bad start and basically no bonuses this entire week here

[sharp wing]

I'm way too busy with other games, only done t2

[vague token]

i just noticed mio has weird efficiencies lol

145/120/120

but 3/3/2

[sharp wing]

she is 3/2/3 too

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i saw dive + 1

[sharp wing]

torp

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and all +1

[sharp wing]

fighter torp

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oh

yeah that's weird

[sharp wing]

and it should be 115/115

on db/torp

from datamine i remember

she is really... weird

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well, in game it shows 120/110/110 but +15 fighter and +10 all

so 145/120/120

still weeeeeird

[sharp wing]

well

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not that the game shows what buffs she can get

lel

[sharp wing]

Datamaine had +5 to all

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that's nice xD

[sharp wing]

maybe it's another error like w/ boiler

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reee

[sharp wing]

And her barrage torps are sakura

so kinda can barra+sakura torps

[vague token]

she's so weeeeeird

[sharp wing]

She is scaredy wolf

[vague token]

w/e i can ignore her and just use burn cv

🔥

[sharp wing]

is she the bear?

or lion or whatever

those are atrocious

nvm that's elite DD

[vague token]

yeah she has a bear on her rigging

[forest lake]

Eh wait Bacon and Gas not added to core shop yet?

[sharp wing]

next month

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

things are added to shop only at resets

[forest lake]

Sad Thought I could get 2 sets asap

[sharp wing]

well, wait 3 days

[forest lake]

[ripe latch]

[ionic magnet]

wth ws barrage hits for 1.6k only

prolly armored

but still didnt expect to be that low

[sharp wing]

on def?

[ionic magnet]

attack

my warkai

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wut

[sharp wing]

like regular shells?

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that's pretty low?

[ionic magnet]

no barrage

[sharp wing]

lel

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o.O

[sharp wing]

that's like prekai

[ionic magnet]

thats really low

[sharp wing]

that's too weird

something is off

[vague token]

i shot some level 100 medium for like 7k

xD

[sharp wing]

She hit's for 2.7k crits with regular shelling lol

and her crit barrage...

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also i saw another centaur

[sharp wing]

more than double of that

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and her barrage still is inverted on the y axis

so it hits literally nothing

[sharp wing]

Wait, wait, was that 1st barrage?

[vague token]

i forget if it was first, but vanguards were both up

[sharp wing]

No i mean Hooloo

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oh ok

xD

[sharp wing]

Cause 1st barrage gets130% buff

and second obviously much lower

maybe that's the thing

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owo someone pushed

[sharp wing]

I'm about to push tix and go sleep

[vague token]

still no wskai fleets

im so behind in bonus i only get full casual

xD

[ionic magnet]

ah im talking about 2nd barrage

but still..

[sharp wing]

well, that's normal

u lose 130% damage

bonus

more than half damage

[ionic magnet]

yea so its p much dont miss your first barrage or youre fked

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well, it still hits like a truck

you arent completely out if you whiff

cause you still have shelling

[ionic magnet]

hmm lemme test aiming hiryuu

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just slap them with izumo gun

;)

[ionic magnet]

izumo gun is a complete waste tho if it aims VG

[sharp wing]

it's not

[ionic magnet]

and i have formi slow

[sharp wing]

she hits vg with it for over 1500

and it lands good cause ap fast

[ionic magnet]

thats what i said when i tried it on mona also

[vague token]

i mean, it's still plenty good odds of slapping the marked target anyways

[ionic magnet]

just use it more and you will know

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monarch doesnt have 90 luck

;)

or 600 fp

[ionic magnet]

same thing when i put 2 sgs on mona and you dont on your ws

[sharp wing]

i use shell on ws, those shelling crits too good

she can delete cv just by shelling

2700 crits

it's like 1 out of 3 every salvo

[ionic magnet]

yea but im having issues with her survivability on flag pos if i use shell

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sounds like you need...

amagi

[ionic magnet]

gonna test some more first

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;)))))

[ionic magnet]

lol

never

[sharp wing]

well, don't put flag

[vague token]

/meanwhile my wskai/amagi/formidable sharing all the damage reduction

top kek

[sharp wing]

formie only buffs after launch, so after you eat all namagi barrages

[vague token]

i mean, triple heavy buffers the barrages fine

and a bunch of 381mm is w/e when i slap them back with izumo gun

and a billion cuda torps

;)

[sharp wing]

cuda torps is whatever

more like cuda kamizkaze

[vague token]

that too xD

[coral wren]

bis ws gear?

[vague token]

depends on comp

[coral wren]

I have a Juneau

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like fox ws would probably run fcr/shell for speed run

[sharp wing]

izumogun nepgun staag sg shell

well, for solo bb hsfcr

[coral wren]

i am using

mama and loli

[sharp wing]

for foxes it's fast wi or reset anyway

[coral wren]

ijn

doesn't amagi want hsfcr more?

[sharp wing]

ye

[coral wren]

sg shell it is

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im using shell/rudder xD

[sharp wing]

i had no need for rudder

[coral wren]

guess i'll craft a triple 410

[sharp wing]

I used it for ch12 already, so had ready

[coral wren]

meh, it was never necessary

[sharp wing]

Dork 410 is op too

[coral wren]

i'm sitting at 120+ bp's for it

[sharp wing]

suruga event

gave 100+ bps