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y u pause
30 more seconds 
yes, i tried it yesterday
wtf
watch 
wdym by using attacks too early then fearless
like obviously you don't rush them right at reset
LMAO
rip
🇫
needed better APM 
If it gave me 10 seconds more
couldnt get a skill book on her 
y isnt her skill already maxed
@gilded sun with too early I mean using more than 5 attacks in a reset
yeah, had to do that. but I already knew I was supposed to do that 
Because you'll most likely end up with +0s
is it even possible to get less than like 2 or 3 +0s per reset?
It's all RNG
trade sleep and sanity and u can

I mean, at lower ranks definitely

yeah i did
but like once you get to when battles only give +10 or +15 and whatever bonus


how many points are you at rn?
More like holding matches.
I never use more than 5 attack/reset unless I'm lucky
yeah yeah
The good thing about holding 5 is that you have a better chance of bonus points per reset
Exactly
Bad thing, you can lose charges if you forget

Life of sandbagging 
and there's always the chance that the other people in your 4 don't play either/lose too much
but it makes sense
so when do you refresh
Or just refresh into another dead list
like an hour into reset, when nobody has played?
When it takes too long and I don't know the player
oh jeez
Hour is too early
fair enough
Ill give it at least 2
ig it depends on which reset
That too

uh yeah, I wouldnt recommend refreshing late like that, youll just end up with a list garuanteed to be dead.
just play like rusher 
Uhh does QE kinda remove the 20% backline ship damage penalty? Thing is she buffs firepower, not damage dealt.
Does my monarch deal 0.95x damage then?
QE dmg buff is closer to 10-11% cos of how firepower works
Ohhh okay okay
That reminds me how QE succs in CV buffing compared to Nagato 
the only point is QE buffs eva, so kinda slow cvs more viable w/ it
Bisquirt is best cv buffer 
20% damage, 20% crit, 12% reload

Zeppy is the pinnacle of CV engineering 

Zep just needed proper red skill, not that bs

basically 1 skill
devs just hate KMS
also not double dive bomber probably
she had the same base blueprints as akagi or something right?
just give her CA gun skill, hit rate + barrage when using stuka, and keep the dr skill

Ranger-senpai
茶猫
weabu
How the hell yuki can survive until the end 
Just Yukikaze Thingsâ„¢
are you new
cos thats very normal for ykkz
nanoda always survives wdym
unless you use aurora
she will ram that Hiryuu
till bery end
lmao
and die from ramming
sometimes
Do you use FE on her?
Ykk doesn't survive when I face one
you meme cvs
Boiler + fe
well, enemy nanoda
s rng
she can survive 2 nagato barrages
or she can die from torps

its called rng 
for every ykkz I fight, the HP doesn't leave that much until the battle end, She still have 75% HP.
Well its rng
Is boiler and FE effective on yukikaze?

FE is mandatory
yes boiler + FE is the recommended setup for her
boiler is preference
Boiler + tool
Boiler + fe
Boiler + boiler 
New one?
So the same like the kizuna one
exact stats
Same as kizuna ai ?
With +10 spd 
I kinda like lunar new year bgm
play muted, who cares


Play muted + low brightnes if play in public
Pump that brightness up when you're in public
People love to watch too
Trust me


I don't give a fck
trains is another kind of transport altogether 
ye

Looks like kc
can't recognize her 
btw does anyone happen to know xy's full username, so I can pm him?
Can't find a link or connection to him anymore ever since he was sent to the shadow realm.
I just want him to switch to a real fleet later if he could so I can test with WSK
oh wait. I can message him in game 


did they datamine the new ships yet?
They're out on CN and JP already
And yeah, full stats datamined
xysunder
Tldr they're on the level of KizAI collab
Nothing interesting for PvP ship-wise
The SR dd though is fairly interesting cause she's an IJN DD stat-wise with DBs instead of her AA slot
Currently her skill is bugged, so she gets fairly fast loadtime
That's the Elite DD
She's garbage since she's based of HMS DD stats, pretty sure
And ofc no notable skills
i mean plane dd
Her gimmick is the planes
Skill planes are ok, plane slot is a nice PvE screenwipe especially if they don't fix loadtime
also no aa gun makes her squishier against air damage, so for pve that's not really important
and u lose aa circle adjustment slot
She has fairly high AA for dd tho
if anything, depending how strong that barrage on elite sub is, she might be good
tho 25sec is way too long]
dk how strong wolf cv extra planes, but looking at her db and trop eff i be 
Barrage is nothing particularly special
Elite CV barrage is fairly decent
SSR cv barrage is garbage
burning barrage garbo?
On a 100 base damage slotless bomb
Elite one has 6 240 bdmg torps and similar bomb load
Well, wolf CV need very strong barrage to make up for her low avi and atrocious eff
Pretty decent
115% eff is that like lowest? Aside Ark
Both end up being ok, nothing special
on db/torp
and she is below 375 avi
Well, only interested in sub now

fox, wolf, oni still for waifu colelction

Sub is probably on the lower end of SR subs
Sub isn't floof though?
Also that wolf CV is slow as Lusty and sisters...
Sub no
Sub is normal
Sub is l00d
Does fubuki have avi 
yes
How slow is her airstrike reload

It's supposed to be ~35 s at best
Skill is bugged tho and she can get sub20 right now
lel

Skill should add +100% reload time to airstrike
It does no damage as you would expect
The skill planes do a nice bonus in terms of dmg, at least
so up to 40 sec
If only they made torp buff perma/switch w/ fp buff
or remove fp at all and make bigger torp buff
wait, her MLB is +1 plane?
she has 2 planes
Yep, still garbo damage though
And idk what you mean about FP buff on her?
Oh
Too forgettable 
It's called, devs don't understand how their game mechanics work, smh

Stats scale off stat+100
So % boost on low value is super pointless
Time to push rushers 

The death of enty

She will never 1 hit Hiryuu 
U have second skill lvl 1 too
she used to miss or whiff 1 shot of normal barrage
well, not like maxed 2nd skill will add that much damage
but it will be noticable
I'm still lvling non ws hms for now
i was using white shell sg
checked
i doubt i missed
but maybe that amagi had plate
god knows
She is surprisingly squishy
Even with 2 sgs
what's everyone using for warkai?
@spice pagoda
ty
Find ws on def 1st
And she will still not 1 shot foxes
on def
at least till she is maxed

So u can bravely move forward w/ warkaifoxes 
why triple 410 on warkai than 406mmMK6?
+20 more FP and AP = bb any med armor
She crits for 2.7k w/ regular shelling w/ 410 on med armor
AP inflict more damage on medium or heavy armor? i forget that
just use bell gun on those pesky YKK that manage to get through
make sense then 
not to mention once she max her 2 skill DD ain't going to matter
nepgun shreds them before they even get close
I actually liked kgv setup, she rekts vg early and help u win vg fight while warkai and mona take care of main
and late 2nd kgv salvo clears what's left on main
QE 🚮

Uhh, not sure if want aurora or neptune with her. Aur is still a coinflip against torp memes
Bel 
hmm so 10/10 matches amagi always died on 1st airstrike
this is so funny to watch
ill try going back to stall VG
Lol, resetting vs E in 2k19 
I forgot about Enty duels right after new year, when Amagi came and WasdA assembled
Sometimes enemy enty just has a proc rate of 100%
Amagi shoots between her procs
most things nowadays do
nagato amagi barrage all shit out of her till she can launch
mona, and ws now
xy followed up
can against proper fleet now
https://puu.sh/EJhbI/e1470413dc.png
he told me he just put up stall VG since thats just default "meta"
13.6k fp looks normal yea
damn maint ended so late
but time to test despacito now
?
right
Despacito 2 is lit 
pretty much guaranteed deletion at 30s unless its some hardcore heavy armour 
AP still do more dmg vs heavy anyway
rip killed accidentally
yea they just tank more than normal
QE/WS/Monarch is cool to look at when it works, but so many misses 
Time to corpse drag that bot... 
the mark is actually pretty effective it seems. time to try AP main gun 
Try that izumo gun, you won't regret
Also mark supposed to apply only to 1st salvo of volley as usual

lmao
hmm
they didnt translate 
forget kfc
its warkai + fc now

lol
if you dont want ykkz
atleast use juneau
then sirius
but its jun/nep/ and somth
3rd is p much any decent bote
so warpi and formi and centaur?
yea
good good got those
closing lvling em ><
am tho confused look on this two its right plane order?
lol, funny how Zuii tells Shirakami has cat ears
Like it's even harder to guess who kawakaze is 
as last plane?
yea
https://puu.sh/EJi5J/518ba40bf2.png what a homie. xy died for this channel's sins 

https://puu.sh/EJi7a/47977d8968.png Pog new fleet to test 
well if you change to cuda, you might as well use fighter on formi
15k hmm
told u
fighters are mostly for timing anyways
hmm
ye well im not that into it too be check it so much mostly they ar eout of sync tho but guess 110 lvl on formi is not enough
yea its close to cuda
anyone knows wats the event map lvl
t1 22

ok thx
6 iirc
hmm
Centaur tanking despacitos somehow 
RNG
I bet someone gonna ask for a pvp team of vtubers


I just like how fubuki can use dive bombers lul

It looks to be bugged now cooldown doesn't have +100% reload time from skill
Damage comes from skill planes anyway
actual gear planes are 🚮
prolly better to slap gold plane w/ faster reload and avi boost at least on sub 100 lvls 
Fighter slot would be better 
Also
2nd gold engine now
Also another option for +hit for CVs
https://puu.sh/EJiO4/4977d3757e.png friendship ended with monarch. Amagi is now best friend.
No 
you have more Jp than hms tho
using meta 

using memes 
We had to do some outside recruiting. Don't mind that 
rudder sg
I'm getting torp memed by xy's ibuki 

indeed. I always thought it was better for defense fleets anyways
stall fleet defense 🚮
SG Shell

i swapped sandy out for nepnod atm anyways
Unworthy
still using hms
meta defense + baiting someone to getting a bonus off you while you push with 6-9 minutes left but then they get walled because bad RNG and lose a ticket 


but thats not the true wall fleet you see. The real fleet is Lusty Eldridge 
Fox w/ randoms on sides
Fox needs replacement

FW rerun

So guys... serious question... will warspite see use in the future, or will she disappear?
warspite lives on
those are actually CB guns
Hmm... good
@red nexus FDG is worth mentioning ,idk if she replaces WS though.
Now need Alaskas w/ their 305 guns
I heard they work together
Mommy and Granny 
If u go for Azuma Dev 1st, u stick to warkai for a longt ime
No
Not without 457 apparently, and even then apparently more of a fast-kill than a yeet
second DR dev is a year
Making the decision between FDG or Azuma first harder on myself 
so gotta stick with warkai for a year
For PvP, the clear choice is azuma
PvE, 

georgia/seattle/gascan all fine for pve
Azuma for tryharding. FDG I really want though 
Am I the only one going for georgia first?
For pve none
cause they yeet oil like small fleet

FdG is 19 oil

Azuma 16
more than backliners
Georgia is 16 too
momma needs her oil to tank everything in existence

gotta level nepnod faster with this power
The chibi plushies are each +3 and count as decor
some+1
So, that's all 7 of the +7 I get from the set
How broken is this? 
im using izumo gun
I used Izumo gun before kai for a bit
it was impressive
Now w/ mark

tbh her shelling is much more accurate, than barrage

She missed 1 barrage shell half the time
But haven't seen her missing shelling

what’s the best hms backline out of monarch, kgv, warkai, formidable and centaur?
it needs more testing who is actually better, but either warkaiFC, warkaiQEMona, KGVwarkaiMona work pretty good


let yr pp pick
I’ll just level them all, I already have monarch and formidable 120
Well, they usually got to 2 different comps
I’ll probably do warkai+kgv+a carrier, I’ve seen monarch and warkai firing at the same target overkill before
well, that thing is fixed by placing
U place mona bot to shoot at bot and ws mid to shoot at top 1st
if u get overkills
is it ok to put kgv at the side?
kgv is best at tanking
and her barrage kinda hits all backline
when mid
it's not exactly flank barrager
a very beefy tank

atm im using ws mid, formidable bottom, amagi top
is qe or centaur better?
well, see, formidable is the squishiest so if they put ws kai top, she gets focused by my own double barrage
xD
to many choices 
ws kai gives all the choices
that's the point
unlike ijn meta overlord
no choices allowed
u can run warkaifoxes for all any1 cares

it's one of speed comps now

nah

better use the hololive girls

wuts a gud triple pvp attacking backline. warkai+hiryuu kai+? don't have nagato
you can use souryuu kai
my current pvp attacking+defense fleet is hiryuu kai+foxes 
160 gold for war kai 

so saved up
xD
just using vestal/npc/nepnod so she farms up affection
extra safe
i tossed sora into dorm, gotta get that burn damage ready asap

i made 10x and 0
I told Akashi to go all out
But... sub
i did 30 builds cause i already paid off my wskai loan
helps counteract badge a bit xD
ok lets tell people fubuki is op in pvp cuz she has dive bomber
also odd is sora has 100 base hit lol
i have the boats in the gacha but sora
sora and her highest accuracy stat of all cvs
cause her buff lol
pushes herself to 110
owari da is 107 xD
actually she's basically just a worse formidable
weaker self dr skill
dot avi barrage
tiny slow
no heavy armor
Stronger dot though I think
Cause formi's dot is hella weak
formi's is flood though
so no fire extinguisher reducing it
xD
plus we would have to check the code to see how strong her burn ratio is
it could be garbo
if anything, it's probably trash

the one perk is that it is a 100% activation rate and burn rate
unlike formidable's 80% activation rate, but also 80% flood rate
or sara's 70% activation rate, 100% dot rate
But Formie can cover whole screen w/ 2 rows of torp and hit all vg + main, while this one drops 3 tiny bombs
and ye burn ratio prolly meme

No need

Both
that ended long ago
It was a meme for along time now
Only worthwhile def was Namagiyuu since well Nagato event
Monarch or Warspite Kai, which is better?
warkai
And any setup w/ Mona now has both of them in it anyway
You won't use Mona without warkai now
Damn, how come? Monarch is still using AP barrage though.
yes, but not Mona
lel
Mona is like half of warkai
esp in accoun t of poor acc and no luck
monarch is a tank who can do damage
make rn fleet great again 
warspite is modern armor, high speed firepower and durability
What's the recommended fleet for around Warspite Kai?
I'm currently using Monarch+AKaga.

that's sad...
oof
yeah, not even Nagato
warkaifoxes is just fast win/fast reset Mk.2
Is QE+Monarch+WarKai good though?
Do you have Centaur/Formidable?
I do
warkaiFC, WarkaiQEMona, KGVWarkaiMona
warkaiFC?
Formie Cent
oh ok
gotta try it. Thanks
are the event ships any good?
fubuki waifu
aa gun still better tbh
at least how she works
she has like 200 avi, 80 eff and double cooldown
only good thing is skill planes
i'd rather take fighter
with intercept

At least she has DB and not seaplane slot
gotta be happy with that alone
lel
Is that even a question?
Yes, yes it is, as they both bring value in different situations, tho Junaeu might be allaround better as her heal always proccs...

oh sandy, your time in the spotlight was short but good
Sandy bring no value
Juneau bring you winrate


when i used kgv i used sandy and removed the fighter from formidable
I just realized
I only have Ayanami on 120 and Jintsuu
aya is only good for long fights with jintsuu buff
jintsu is budget
ca gun, double preload, double barrage
and torp barrage at the second wave
beefy
like around uh, 16-18 is 2nd rainbow?
her only big downside is, shes a CA
i forget
which instantly drops her down quiet far
lol
but thats just my thought, CAs in general are underpowered
lol
not really, being a CA means she doesnt instant die to things on defense


Never saw a CA do anything better than a DD or CL.
most of the time their problem is their low speed
low speed sucks a lot in many situations

hey man, everyone has their own expirience in that regard 
She doesn't tho
i mean relative wise
Are any of the hololive ships good?
Some of them seem good on paper
And in pve CAs are source of damage
like better than usual collabs
burn damage cv 

WHAAAAAAAT

The new +spd equip is 500 HP
lel


























