pvp

[sharp wing]

yes

with missing bra

[empty grove]

I still prefer her retro skin

[still minnow]

pretty sure missing bra is just sakura ship standard tho

[sharp wing]

U dun wear bra under kimono

[still minnow]

still missing lmao

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Cannot miss something, that is not supposed to be there in the 1st place

[still minnow]

honestly tho I think the devs have decided that oath skins just aren't profitable to do

[vague token]

i mean

[still minnow]

they havent added one in such a long time

[vague token]

oath skins are cheaper

[still minnow]

and they add shittons of skins for other ships

[vague token]

cause you buy a ring, and get a skin

[still minnow]

oath rrings are what, 500 gems?

if you get them in the 2-pack

[ionic magnet]

id rather them make more swimsuits tbh

[still minnow]

and most skins are 700-800

though I kinda feel like more ppl would be willing to buy oths than there are that are willing to buy swimsuits

since stat bonuses etc

I guess also there is the argument that most people who would buy oath rings have already done so

so adding skins would do nothing

[sharp wing]

that depends on artist

[ionic magnet]

its all about the art
i highly doubt most ppl care about stats

and even if you do, its nothing significant

[vague token]

except fdg ;)

[sharp wing]

Many artist just don't draw such dresses

tho sakura oath skins...

[still minnow]

well tehcnically it doesn't have to be a dress

[sharp wing]

for hms, uss

[still minnow]

look at yamashiro and nagato

[sharp wing]

empire uses traditional wear for such occasions

[still minnow]

besides if the original artist can't draw that type of clothes

idk why another artist can't do it

it's not like artists are in short supply afaik

[vague token]

contracts

[still minnow]

in what way

[vague token]

probably exclusivity to the ship

for a set duration

[still minnow]

I'm surprised that those are common

especially common with artists that are incapable of drawing certain styles

[sharp wing]

It's more about wish

[ionic magnet]

well roon got a skin

after all the controversies

[sharp wing]

not oath skin

[ionic magnet]

so nothing is impossible

eh oath or not its still a skin

[sharp wing]

I still want to chew shiyo

[still minnow]

what do you mean by wish

whats wrong with shiyo .-.

[winged nymph]

Back to PVP please

[sharp wing]

It's pvp

waifuwars

[ionic magnet]

its oath or not for pvp 👀

[sharp wing]

Let the best waifu win

Oath for stats for pvp

[shy hazel]

just went off topic for abit

fashion is important for pvp

[sharp wing]

Shoo

[shy hazel]

gotta flex that fully oathed

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

fully costumed

def fleet

[still minnow]

if you know of a better topic to talk about I'd love to hear it

[shy hazel]

sagitits shoo

[sharp wing]

Full KMS oathed fleet

[shy hazel]

losers go away

[sharp wing]

Yeah, go away

[ionic magnet]

ngl i dont even look at my opponents name if they are not fully oathed

[sharp wing]

I never do regardless

[still minnow]

lol

[shy hazel]

wow

imagine hooloo

[sharp wing]

Unless it's something familiar and see it uncounciously

[shy hazel]

not caring about that

[still minnow]

i still need an answer sag

[shy hazel]

whem u has memeist def fleet

[still minnow]

:|

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Meme makes u famous

[shy hazel]

problem with shiyo is

everyone is a clone

just like saru

[sharp wing]

problem with shiyo is he has all the waifus, but no love for them

Doglover

filthy

[shy hazel]

was monarch shiyo again

[sharp wing]

no

[shy hazel]

oh ilduke

[sharp wing]

shiyo takos, yatsen, nc

[shy hazel]

guess shiyo never had a good

[winged nymph]

Last verbal. Back to PVP or action will be taken

[shy hazel]

pvp ship

[still minnow]

you're really intent on killing this channel holy shit

[sharp wing]

Hey, Tacos good in pvp

[ionic magnet]

also hate those solid backgrounds that blocks half the screen

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

cant see planes and stuff

[sharp wing]

U can turn off background anyway

[ionic magnet]

nani

[sharp wing]

or wdym

activation background?

[ionic magnet]

talking about the one on formi swimsuit

[sharp wing]

meh

yeah, those type of skins are ugly

[ionic magnet]

the circle thingy

yea

[shy hazel]

when background as too big

they block

[sharp wing]

there few of em by now

[ionic magnet]

cant see shit if im losing already

[shy hazel]

activation stickers

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

press Pause if in doubt

[shy hazel]

didnt they tell they implement a patch for this

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

to make skin flash removable

[sharp wing]

they made it no pause in pvp?

[shy hazel]

guess devs forgot promise again

[sharp wing]

Or they forgot EN

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

The unwanted child

[shy hazel]

if it comes to pvp

they dont care

[sharp wing]

We don't have PVP

[still minnow]

EN not willing to pay as high prices as CN

[sharp wing]

We need issue club rename

[still minnow]

therefore unwanted server

xD

[ionic magnet]

you mean jp

[sharp wing]

JP not CN

[still minnow]

sure that one

[sharp wing]

CN doesn't give much too

[ionic magnet]

hence ijn meta

[sharp wing]

IJN Bias

Meta ruled by whales

[still minnow]

coincidence??

at least it's not a big forehead meta

that would suck

[sharp wing]

Time to bring Freedom whales to the table

[ionic magnet]

which happened first ijn meta or jp paying 90% of AL revenue

[shy hazel]

what first

ijn was always meta

[sharp wing]

Since foxes exist

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

en didnt pay enuf so we got crap anniv ships

[sharp wing]

uss counter was even event blocked

[shy hazel]

that aint good for pvp

[still minnow]

does jp actually provide 90% of income

[sharp wing]

it does

[shy hazel]

yes

and no

its 95%

[sharp wing]

95.9

[still minnow]

lol

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

they had balls to make jp bad guys in the anime then

[sharp wing]

Why?

JP are axis

[ionic magnet]

bad guys? you mean cool guys

[sharp wing]

bad and good is relative

[still minnow]

let me rephrase that

they had balls to make jp assholes in the anime then

[sharp wing]

No spoilers anyway

[still minnow]

you can have bad guys without also making them assholes

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

so that was pretty ballsy

[shy hazel]

theyre bad guys until they make the anime lile

everyone is friends

[sharp wing]

well, u don't have black and white...

[shy hazel]

i want better kms pvp ships

[sharp wing]

U want to be bigger loser and make KMS

Zep needs retro

that second skill is damn useless

[shy hazel]

kms is also loser like ijn real life

they deserve to be winners in the game too

[sharp wing]

irl germany is totally a winner tho

compared to many of countries, who actually won war esp

[vague token]

inb4 zeppy retro instead

;)

[sharp wing]

zeppy already stacked

[vague token]

personally, ill take houshou retro

or give zep a CA gun skill

she has guns in her art

reee

[sharp wing]

Tho i'd like Zeppy retro into mature but not milf Zep

[still minnow]

lol just beat a fully oathed lvl 120 fleet with a lvl ~110 fleet

I really hope thisll be able to handle the meta fleets once I get it to 120

guess there's only one way to find out lol

[sharp wing]

There is only one def meta...

And many things can handle it

[ionic magnet]

with enough resets

[still minnow]

well if many non meta fleets can handle it what's with the meta worship that happens here

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

plebs warship meta

I lvl ships in pvp

[still minnow]

still doesnt explain the meta worship tho

[ionic magnet]

higher winrate less resets

[sharp wing]

What it doesn't explain loL?

ppl want highest wr....

less time wasted on pvp, no resets

I can take a reset for exp

[ionic magnet]

imagine resetting 10x daily

[still minnow]

0only time resets are important for me to beat a fleet is against torp memes

[sharp wing]

well, that needs to be really underlvled

[still minnow]

but I'm pretty sure that's the case for meta fleets too

[sharp wing]

cause u use bad vg...

[still minnow]

not much you can do if your fleet eats their entire torpedo launch right in the first 10 secs

[sharp wing]

3 cls

[empty grove]

Wake me when a full yandere fleet is meta

[sharp wing]

with no heals/dreds

[empty grove]

[ionic magnet]

still waiting for more sardegna botes so i can use my zara

[vague token]

i mean, triple cl with 3 boiler should dodge them on average

[ionic magnet]

[still minnow]

bro I highly doubt belfast-juneau-yuki is going to be taking a full torpmeme salvo right at the start and still have 90% of its hp

[sharp wing]

Torpmeme is actually default counter to hms

and yes that vg has no problems vs anything

[still minnow]

well my belfast just dies instantly

so it must be a lvl problem

[sharp wing]

juneau tank takes on torpmeme

that's what i always run anyway

middle spot reserved for lvling ship

juneau tank makes yr vg be extremely healthy too

[still minnow]

idk how juneau is different from pearls tho

in terms of vanguard hp

unless you're running pearls on juneau but ppl said not to do that

[sharp wing]

u never do that as tank

only if u run CA/CB

as tank

[still minnow]

yeah you're agreeing with me instead of answering the question

:I

[sharp wing]

what

[ionic magnet]

really noticeable if you're underlevelled by about 5 or more

[sharp wing]

u have 1 heal instead of 2

[ionic magnet]

so yea

[sharp wing]

and [pearl is weak

[still minnow]

hyow is juneau tank different than some other ship as tank with pearls for vangaurd hp

[sharp wing]

cause u have jun tank + middle pearls

and when jun tank dies, rest 2 ships are usually 90% hp

[still minnow]

if you need 2/3rds of the ships to die that hardly sounds like "good vanguard hp"

[sharp wing]

makes you outlast enemy vg very good

instead of when yr jun dies on mid, when yr tank almost ded or already ded

[still minnow]

I'm getting the feeling that I'm playing a totally different pvp than everyone else due to being underlvled

[sharp wing]

and it's mostly for main fleet heal

vg health is bonus

[still minnow]

things that ppl say should happen do not happen

[vague token]

well

[sharp wing]

well, you should understand that lvl has very big impact...

[vague token]

when you're underleveled

[sharp wing]

even 1 lvl matters a lot

[vague token]

you take way more damage

AND you get hit more often

[sharp wing]

u take +2% damage for each lvl adn deal 2% less damage for each lvl

[ionic magnet]

well yea we assume everything is maxed when talking about something

[vague token]

level difference is a huge damage taken multiplier

[sharp wing]

and acc/eva debuff

and hp bonus w/ each lvl has up to 2.34 mult in pvp

at 120

And accounting that even in cancer w/ 1 bad vg u already have much worse WR...

[still minnow]

lvls are 118, 110, 109 and 115, 112, 111

[sharp wing]

that pretty unviable...

[vague token]

so the 110, for example takes a whopping 20% more damage from enemies

does 20% less damage to enemies

[sharp wing]

and deals 20% less

[vague token]

gets hit 10% more often

[still minnow]

lol

[vague token]

and misses 10% more often

[still minnow]

thats so busted

[vague token]

yeah

level difference is huge

[sharp wing]

U can 120 ship in 2 days tho

[vague token]

you can get away with 5ish

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

the lvl 110 can still delete lvl 120 vanguards tho so thats nice

[vague token]

if your comp is sound

[sharp wing]

my taihoe took mvp from 110

[vague token]

xD

[still minnow]

taiho is no joke when the barrage procs

[vague token]

sandy taking mvp, too many hiryuu planes edition

i swapped to dive bomber and 818 on formidable since more sandy firepower chances and no need for fighters with her around

[sharp wing]

need t rush that buki

[vague token]

xD

[still minnow]

o yeah I'm using cuda and albacore on formi is that not a good

[sharp wing]

full cuda FC works fine

[still minnow]

what's FC?

[sharp wing]

formie cent

[still minnow]

do you need to hit a specific # of planes for cudas to be good?

[sharp wing]

cudas always good

ryuus not always good

[vague token]

ryuu needs to be planned around

[sharp wing]

but ryuu can be busted

[vague token]

or on hiryuu

[sharp wing]

u can make Cent push ryuus into formie slow

[still minnow]

sometimes I'm getting random ryuu desynced from the strike of the ship that has them equipped and sometiems I can't tell if it's taiho doing it or the too many planes glitch

[sharp wing]

Hiryuu, Kaga, taihoe etc. 140% eff can do wonders w/ ryuu

It's just too many planes

Taihoe sometimes launch ryuu torps in 3 waves

as soon as target banks are freed up

sometimes ryuu launch torps even backwards

[still minnow]

sometimes I see blue torps in cuda pattern

idek what's happening there

[sharp wing]

on formie that's skill torps prob

it has 2 waves of parallel torps

[still minnow]

and theyre blue not red?

[sharp wing]

they can stack or be spread from edge to edge

[vague token]

im pretty sure skill torps are default red

[sharp wing]

all ammo is same color

unless skin

[still minnow]

well ruyuu torps are blue

and cuda torps are red

I see blue torps in cuda pattern

idk what causes that unless one of my ships has a barrage that launches blue torps in cuda pattern

[sharp wing]

formie is blue

http://p0.qhimg.com/dr/400__/t01fed610b97523e5f5.gif

[vague token]

those look red to me

i see aimed torps that are blue

[sharp wing]

or wait blue are ryuu

[vague token]

yeah

[still minnow]

yeah those blue torps seem aimed

[vague token]

the wedge formation is her skill

[sharp wing]

i see like some parallel blue

there alba + barrage

parrallel

[vague token]

[still minnow]

those all look aimed to me, none of them are going straight

[sharp wing]

alba torps are parrallel

barrage too

[still minnow]

yes, and they're red

I think

[sharp wing]

what other cv u use

[still minnow]

taiho and bataan

[sharp wing]

well, those have no parallel barrage torps

[still minnow]

yeah

if ryuuseis dont have a target do they just drop their torps?

in a parallel pattern

[sharp wing]

yes

if say they aimed for flag but it sank

it happens

[still minnow]

ok well that explains

I tried to make formi and bataan drop ASAP

[sharp wing]

but rare

[still minnow]

and then taiho wait as long as possible

to try and separate the time between drops

[sharp wing]

wait wait

battan

[still minnow]

but apparently maybe that isn't enough lol

[sharp wing]

http://p5.qhimg.com/dr/400__/t0103942f583a203af1.gif

blue parallel torps

[still minnow]

huh

wtf

xD

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

hol up

she has hellcats

that drop torpedoes

[sharp wing]

apparently USS are blue

[still minnow]

parallel blue torpedoes

xDDD

[sharp wing]

she also has equiped paralle bobmer

probably uss for meme

[still minnow]

I have ryuuseis on her

[sharp wing]

or default gear

i mean on image

[still minnow]

well wiki says she can "launch additional hellcats when launching an airstrike"

it doesn't really say what those additional planes do

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

CN wiki says additional F6F used for bombing

[still minnow]

can you read chinese?

how do you find this ifnormation lol

[sharp wing]

gtl

[still minnow]

lul

aight

[sharp wing]

wait, her barrage supposed to only have Bombs

[vague token]

google says weird things sometimes too xD

yeah i thought hellcat was a dive bomber

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

those blue torps are really uss gear torp bombers

[still minnow]

ok well then where is the fcking parallel blue torps coming from xDDD

ryuuseis losing their target I guess

only viable explanation at this point

[sharp wing]

maybe Albacores relly?

[still minnow]

I don't think so, when I use formi with alba-cuda in pve w/ 2 bbs no blue torps get launched at all

[vague token]

torp bomber skin? xD

[sharp wing]

well, time to push and

[empty grove]

I heard Taihou again

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

no idea about all these blue/red torps cos i use gear skins

[shell heron]

I only see mutsuki teru teru bozus flying at my enemies

[vague token]

lol

[shell heron]

I can tell you, I spent a stupid amount of gold just to get a set of those

But its was worth

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

where is sumire

[vague token]

[midnight heron]

pvp suddenly feels so ez with meta backline

[shy hazel]

what feels ez

pvp IS ez

u just a loser

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

in the end

sumire is still sandbagger

wont move

[hot creek]

Dead Hour

I think Im just gonna push, fuck it.

Might have to eat a bunch of +9 and maybe some +8

got one more refresh left, the question is do I save it in order to avoid a +8 or use it now to try and avoid a +9

[shy hazel]

save

[hot creek]

Ahhh, I should probably just wait

I wanna flex r1

but I've been bitten by pushing too early more than once before

[serene saddle]

Fighting some hiryuu scums

[shy hazel]

what about it

[serene saddle]

Nothing its just theyre annoying with their delay death

Btw

Is this the right comp with warkai later?

[shy hazel]

should be if not qe

[odd schooner]

Kiro you're right I'm missing 1 match

And now idk if i should try again next season

[vague token]

i mean, next season will be easier

ws kai time

xD

(still few more days)

[odd schooner]

Winning wasn't really an issue

Commitment is

[vague token]

kek

i mean, just take a vacation it's fine

[odd schooner]

I still haven't purchased a ring for kgv either lmao

Imma buy haruhi leader pack first

[vague token]

xD

[odd schooner]

I had a very long vacation already. I'm afraid if i stop now i might get hit by the yeet stick

[vague token]

just accept the casual within

[shell heron]

And I was thinking you still had 1 or 2 more matches left

Your 2585

[shy hazel]

oh

my score is soso too

ill end with 90

[shell heron]

Thats still somewhat sandbagging. Had to rush a few important days.

[cerulean estuary]

peco i already push , am i still on ur list

[shell heron]

By that I mean all of them

[shy hazel]

not anymore

highest is 96 anyways

i top 7~9 this season

[cerulean estuary]

i still have few attempts left

[shell heron]

Not seeing a 2600+ in avrora is weird

[shy hazel]

early still what

[empty grove]

Blazing should get 2600

[shell heron]

But theres still 26 minutes left

[empty grove]

Kamita might too

[cerulean estuary]

novae on my list , im in serious time trouble

[shy hazel]

@dusk stirrup

[empty grove]

I should feed blazing

[shy hazel]

top 1 and beat fam

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

or i kill u

[empty grove]

I mean

I'm 1 round down

Losing to me makes you trash

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

Get stalled like what happened to me sumire

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

Its fun getting stalled into next season

[cerulean estuary]

[shell heron]

[empty grove]

Ghost hiryuu

My fellow sufferer is already purged

[shy hazel]

loser fam

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

I need to get back to neet life. Losing to stella is weird

[shy hazel]

accept your fate

to be a loser

[empty grove]

[ionic magnet]

blazing rank 1

[empty grove]

Told you

Kamita lost a point

[ionic magnet]

and i see a new sandbagger

[empty grove]

Novae gained like 4

[dusk stirrup]

[empty grove]

[empty grove]

Now I clear AP

[ionic magnet]

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

oh

[cerulean estuary]

devs announce maintenance this wednesday

WS kai fanatic be like

[shy hazel]

my rank is lower than expected

[hot creek]

I could have eaten five more +9 and still end up top 1 on Sandy .

[shy hazel]

all those losers from t1 to t8

disgusting

[ionic magnet]

top 100 are losers

[empty grove]

Imagine being rank 9

[cerulean estuary]

im a masochist so its fine to me

[empty grove]

[odd schooner]

[shell heron]

[odd schooner]

Is time to disappear again

[shell heron]

new season. means it's time to either make a meme def comp

[hot creek]

If you are true maso, I have a game to recommend to you. It also involves cute shipgirls.

[shell heron]

or make plebs suffer with namaryuu

[hot creek]

And Permadeath

[empty grove]

It's all

[hot creek]

KC will teach you how to be paranoid so as to not have your waifu die. Just as Hiryuu will teach you to be paranoid and not lose a match

People on my list doing two matches and stopping

but they're not even sandbagging

[empty grove]

They probably lost

[hot creek]

these guys are commander lvl 103 and 117 with 120 fleets

both of them ate a +10 on their first match

which means they fought AI opponent

a literal bot opponent

[empty grove]

I've had that happen to me

It's 25 points

[hot creek]

Are you sure about that.

How'd they have 10 pts

[empty grove]

Pretty sure

I have no idea

Maybe attacking rightmost is less

I could be misremembering since it hasn't happened since late last year

[hot creek]

dafuq

[ionic magnet]

stalled to next season?

[empty grove]

Ohh shit

[hot creek]

LMAO. That explains it.

[empty grove]

That could be it

The cay experience

[hot creek]

There are an alarming amount of folks stalling themselves into next season.

Truly sandbaggers

in its most original and literal definition

[empty grove]

I think I know how that would happen

You need to relog to refresh opponents

They would have still had previous season people & it acted on those scores

[shell heron]

must have did a match right before reset and finished after reset

[shy hazel]

didnt we alrdy know in the first place

[hot creek]

Oh yeah huh. I think that's actually happened to someone here before. Didn't refresh list and fought for +10

[shy hazel]

cay phenomena

stalled till u get cheap points next season

[empty grove]

Cay finished his match when it ticked over

[shell heron]

ah yes, my lusty is 120 now

I can recreate and improve the comp that stalled me

[hot creek]

How about your eldridge?

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

my eld better do better then theirs with all the things I gave her

[hot creek]

wtf, they really are doing mantenance on WS Kai day.

REEE

Why must they delay us even more

[shell heron]

yea I think this works

small chance of stalling but when it stalls

it really stalls

[hot creek]

Lusty unoathed?

[shell heron]

and she'll stay that way

[empty grove]

I can remember running eld & juneau back in the wash/sodak days

If that shit went just right it was literal cancer

[shell heron]

it still is

[hot creek]

Not for oldschool HMS users

[shell heron]

the occasional eld/jun make matches last much longer than I like

even forced a reset out of me

[hot creek]

Only those who were playing the sodakE "meta" suffered from unlucky Eld procs and Lucky E duels

[shell heron]

but I mean who even uses this comp

other than me rn

I kinda want to recreate that meta comp

if my sodak wasn't still 100 only

[blazing scroll]

[empty grove]

I could if I levelled Eld

Too many chips tho

[shell heron]

you have plenty of chips

[shell heron]

If I broken 36 ships to 120, you can too

[empty grove]

I'll tell you how many I have LB to 120

Not including banked exp

58

[blazing scroll]

Some people have too much time

[empty grove]

I need more chips

[blazing scroll]

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

only the SSR ships are the ones that hurt the chips

[empty grove]

25 are SSR

[shell heron]

26

guess it would be more

if I actually worked on the foxes or prinz

[empty grove]

Like 20 something elite too

Ohh wait

I have 26 too

Sirius is 116

[shell heron]

using foxes/prinz

wow, junie is my only rare 120

unless I count portland

[cerulean estuary]

120 leipzig for mama fdg

[shell heron]

isn't fdg IB mainfleets

you really have too much time

[empty grove]

I need more

[shell heron]

mogi not even 120 yet

[cerulean estuary]

use core data points for chips

[empty grove]

She's on my boss fleet

I mean HM

Also I already did

[hot creek]

120 Ranger

[empty grove]

She's beyond 120

[hot creek]

I love watching her proc Lucky R™

[empty grove]

I used her during suruga for lowcost

[shell heron]

here I am still using my IJN ships even when they're 120 3m exp

[shy hazel]

i forgot to do

ws kai quest

for 1 day

let them maintenance for 20 days

so everyone loses

[merry shoal]

cant you so 2 a day if you miss 1?

[shy hazel]

no

[merry shoal]

RIP

[shy hazel]

its locked to 1 p day

if u miss then u wait for 8th day

we have an allowance of a week anyway

[merry shoal]

yeah i guess

[shy hazel]

the only collab i remember for sw

is that collab with a cosplay group

which wasnt even famous

spiral cats

OOPS

wrong server

LOL

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

[hot creek]

ban for off topic reeeee

[ionic magnet]

deduct pvp pts for off topic

[shy hazel]

im talking in alot of servers at the same time

i din notice

[vague token]

commit, or sleep

;)

fair enough, get both

[coral wren]

cant you so 2 a day if you miss 1?
You can

I just did

[sharp wing]

ws no locked, u can get as many items a day, as u want

i got 2 yesterday myself

[tranquil dock]

guys what do you think of the following pvp composition? (my Monarch is 4*, slowly upgrading). Centaur, F: KGV, Warspite (after retro in two days, main gun: purple 406mm or is the PR381mm better choice?). Vanguard: Belfap (with Pearl tears and buldge), Jenau(bulge+boiler) and Yukikaze

[shy hazel]

i dont get it

are u asking us to pick what backline would be good

or are u telling us u have 5 ships backline

general setup should be

kgv mid ship

monarch 5 and wskai

and ykkz needs to have fire extinguisher

belfast with jun is perfect

pr 381mm should be better

[tranquil dock]

huh? never said that 5 ships will be backline, I am simply asking if this is going to be an optimal squad until Monarch is ready, then she'll replace the KGV. i dont want to waste time on ships that may prove useless. as for yukikaze, she's already using toolbox and fire extinguisher 🙂

[shy hazel]

what dev level specifically

4* can be dev 20 to 29

dev 25 monarch above is acceptable

any lower than that is bad

[tranquil dock]

she's 4* dev 18 atm

[shy hazel]

do you have qe

whily centaur is acceptable substitute

[tranquil dock]

yeah, level 106

[shy hazel]

cv era should be ending with wskai 1 hit cv

what level is this centaur

106 is already too late

might as well just centaur if shes high lvl enuf

[tranquil dock]

really? that's a drastic change to the meta we got used to... um right now she's level 94, i am in the process if leveling her up on w12 xd

[shy hazel]

far worse

just use qe

wskai properly geared and max leveled

can level any cv

in 1 hit

except hiryuu

im not sure about heavy plated cvs but it should still be 1 hit

so generally

foxes are easier to deal with

cos u can straight kill 1

witthin the first 15 seconds

and cv era is just about foxes really

[tranquil dock]

will do that, thank you 🙂 so in short the BB gear should be: KGV - Beaver + gold SG, WarKai (black+white shell), Queen Elizabeth (not sure here, 2x gold rudder or 1xrudder and 1x SG)

hell, ive been using foxes in PVP for almost a year 😛

[shy hazel]

mmm

is acceptable i guess

my stance in gears is different so lets see

ask @hot creek

i guess they all deadsleep rn tho

lol

[sharp wing]

warkai triple 410

[tranquil dock]

not a problem, i can wait. it's not like the warspite kai is available now for everyone in en 🙂

[sharp wing]

mona triple 381

[shy hazel]

why u using 410 sagitits

[sharp wing]

double shell is meme

[tranquil dock]

410 is famous for it's performance making most of the gold bb guns obsolete

i am curious about the 381mm triple, isnt the double good for her to procc more? why is double shell meme?

[shy hazel]

wait

[tranquil dock]

sorry for asking so many questions, but since the meta is changing hard on en, i dont want to be behind

[shy hazel]

wskai skills are time locked

[sharp wing]

Loser

Shoo

[shy hazel]

no u

381 should pack more firepower

which is in theory should increase first divine meme 1hit skillers dmg

ws can die after that

[sharp wing]

triple 381 is for barrage botes w/ strong mg, like mona, also sicne mona barrage pretty useless atfer 1st barrage

[tranquil dock]

well if she doesn't die the better

[sharp wing]

tripl1 410 both buffs ws barrage and makes it rekt main ships

[shy hazel]

how accurate are 410 shells

when u fight fast asf opponents

[sharp wing]

what?

wtf u talking

[shy hazel]

410 triple one

[tranquil dock]

well, why is her barrage useless later on? also be friendly guys. difference in opinion is always nice, but not a reason for possible hostilities

[shy hazel]

no

we talk this way

[sharp wing]

u hit main ships

[shy hazel]

cos sagitits is a loser

[sharp wing]

cause u are loser

[tranquil dock]

ah i see xD

[shy hazel]

generally the utility of wskai to me is

to delete one opponent fast

i dont rly care after that

[sharp wing]

Cause u loser

[shy hazel]

unlike u and fam

[tranquil dock]

i'll try the both guns but i'll try out the 381mm and 406mm to see which one seems better

[shy hazel]

i never lost a battle for multiple seasons now

[tranquil dock]

also why is the double shell a meme on warkai?

[sharp wing]

basically if u pair ws and Mona, mona 1st barrage can be already useless

cause ws can delete Mona lane w/ barrage

before she even fires

[shy hazel]

assuming u fighting a med type bb or cv

[sharp wing]

amagi

or proced hiryuu

so useless any way

[tranquil dock]

yeah, my main point is to counter annoying amagi and hiryuu combo which is actual meta on en

[sharp wing]

and if Mona doesn't barrage, WS will finish it off at 20 secs mark w/ her 410

[shy hazel]

proccing hiryuu early

[coral wren]

Uhh, anyone remembers if fdg's barrage even stronger that the one of a monarch?

[sharp wing]

The strategy basically is to ensure Amagi deletion on 1st Mona barrage...

[shy hazel]

actually makes her skill a meme

cos your frontlnie is intact

your backline doesnt take much dmg

cos aa works

[sharp wing]

procing hiryuu early is dumb tbh

[shy hazel]

no

it works the same way

[sharp wing]

U better delete deletable ship 1st

and del with hiryuu after

[shy hazel]

u better delete annoying skill what

[tranquil dock]

so which auxx gear would u recommend for warkai?

[sharp wing]

hiryy will block 2 ws barrages

u have 2 barrages locked

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

ganking amagi first will make aim useless

[coral wren]

Amagi's buffs are over once she is dead, so i would go for her head every time

[sharp wing]

delete amagi w/ ws+mona barrage

rest whatever

If u aim for Hiryuu w/ WS, brining mona is damn useless

even

Might as well do kgv warkai qe

[blazing scroll]

Imagine using all those ships

[shy hazel]

imagine using wskai in hms

[sharp wing]

The matter in question was hms setup

[shy hazel]

im memeing with fearless

[sharp wing]

U are memeing being a loser truhard

[blazing scroll]

There's only one thing that matters

Freedom

[shy hazel]

if i was in your server you would be licking my feet

[sharp wing]

Bring Freedom to eveyrone

[shy hazel]

loser

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

lmao, u wish

[tranquil dock]

xD ill be back in 20 mins

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

dont be back

[sharp wing]

U would be licking Phoe feet

[shy hazel]

else loser aura of sagi will infect u

[sharp wing]

I win by default

cause i don't play EoS

[shy hazel]

[blazing scroll]

I kinda wanna know how good my enty can tank wskai

[sharp wing]

once i get gensui, i won

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

no

[sharp wing]

Enty cannot tank ws

[shy hazel]

dont waste your time

[blazing scroll]

But high eva

[shy hazel]

maybe try with the armor converter

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

eva means nothing

[sharp wing]

If u have amagi

Amagi can cucc ws hard

[shy hazel]

wskai has the highest hit in the game

[sharp wing]

by her eva

[shy hazel]

90% it will hit with sg what

[sharp wing]

highest but not 100%

Amagi eva stacked cuccs ws

[blazing scroll]

BBs don't have 100+ eva

[shy hazel]

at least

u reset early

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

then u win as soon as enemy enty

gets ganked

2 vs 3 now

[sharp wing]

Just aim for ryuu and lock 2 ws barrages on her, lul

and u don't get yr -1

before35 sec into game, lmao

[shy hazel]

you take out the skill risk early

[sharp wing]

And if u miss 1 barrage shell on ryuu, u are even more fucced

[shy hazel]

full hms cant be ganked with amagi and nagatos cannons alone

assuming its your opponent

hp is too high

the dangerous gamble are hiryuu planes

[sharp wing]

on offense sure

on def it is easy

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

which can be ganked early if you still have intact vg

[sharp wing]

on off just eat ws barage w/ yr ryuu and gank em with all the planes

making 2 warkai barrages wasted

on top of other barrager laned w/ ryuu

wasting 1st barrage

so u nullify 3 barrages w/ 1 ryuu

200 IQ plays

[blazing scroll]

I'm still gonna try to tank warspite with enty

Amagi has about the same acc anyway

And my Enty can tank Amagi easily

Hell even Essex can do it

But she's more dead at the end

[sharp wing]

Also... Ryuu gets marked w/ Warkai barrage so aggro MG fire?

[tranquil dock]

and im not back as requested

so since double shells are memes, what aux gear would be recommended for warkai pvp then? gold rudder+sg?

[sharp wing]

I use SG + white shell now

[blazing scroll]

Nice

[sharp wing]

Those MG crits

2650 on med armor, and she's not 120

[blazing scroll]

That way wskai dies fast to freedom

[sharp wing]

well, eva doesn't help w/ avi

[tranquil dock]

so you're using accuracy boost with critical damage. @shy hazel what about you if i may ask? 🙂

[sharp wing]

that's with triple 410

406 felt really meh

[blazing scroll]

Not even against torps or dive bombs?

[sharp wing]

and u have namagi for burns

well, bombs go on vg most of time

and torps are mostly flag

crash damage just ignore everything

no1 does

[blazing scroll]

You haven't seen real freedom, sag

[sharp wing]

I used real Fredom

[tranquil dock]

no1 does yet, we're considering how to adapt to the new meta

[sharp wing]

i already use that

gotta lvl ws

[blazing scroll]

Then you'd see a massive amount of torps hitting enemy main

[sharp wing]

buki

[tranquil dock]

i dont have namagi 😦 at least until there is a event rerun with her

[sharp wing]

[tranquil dock]

my ibuki is lvl120 dev30 xD

[sharp wing]

Amagi rerun is soon

[tranquil dock]

hope so, the same for fallen wings

[sharp wing]

fw won't have rerun

[tranquil dock]

just bps? 🙂

[sharp wing]

it will go to archive next most likely

[tranquil dock]

thats actually bad the fw wont have one, well at least an entire EN community unites and spam the hell out of the support with feedback xD

[blazing scroll]

USS flagship when?

[sharp wing]

U know that JP didn't have it too?

And no1 gives shit about EN feedback, lmao

[blazing scroll]

[sharp wing]

Only CN had OG FW run

[tranquil dock]

well, i know how it works saggitary xD well, if all servers united then its a big maybe

[blazing scroll]

Just make sure it's a bug

[sharp wing]

I just want event items in core/projects

no need rerun

[blazing scroll]

That way they might implement it

[sharp wing]

Don't spam rerun

spam event items in core/projects

Reruns are pretty useless

Mle in projects when

[blazing scroll]

Unless you can farm useful stuff

I don't mind a rerun

[sharp wing]

rerun is 1 time

[tranquil dock]

^same

[sharp wing]

permanent source is eternal

[blazing scroll]

We have that memory thing now

[sharp wing]

fucc archives

our schedule is already so far back, we dun need some reruns

[blazing scroll]

Gib gems

[sharp wing]

I can nyoom gems too

gib

[tranquil dock]

id rather nyoom Atago ;p

[sharp wing]

ewww

[tranquil dock]

xD didnt mean it literally 😛

[blazing scroll]

I only give

[sharp wing]

wolf bikini

[sharp wing]

Actually, what animal is Shirakami Fubuki

and kawaiikaze

[blazing scroll]

Fox right?

[sharp wing]

nah

[vague token]

they're separate people? xD

[blazing scroll]

[sharp wing]

Or Harus...

some lynx something

snow fox

cat or fox...

or some dogo...

[blazing scroll]

So it's a fox