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if I make the switch from bp to sirius is there another good waifu cv that would be an upgrade over bataan?
I can't think of one
bataan is pretty good
well waifu depends on the person
I can't imagine anyone who think hiryuu is a waifu cv ๐
hiryuu essex enty cent formi are the top CVs so yea

why is ezsex good
is it reaosnable to assume that none of the upcoming collab ships will be noteworthy?
I'vbe noticed that none of the past collab ships are very good
inb4 pvp collab
javelin 2op nerf pls
jaburin too op, tankier than any CLs 

Ykkz : 
Yukikaze doesn't even have high evasion
Not higher as other DD, but her skill is why she's called as "DDtank"
in the first place generally
also T0
wdym not high like rest, lmao...
You ppl think those 5-6 MEME hms DDs with 250+ eva
are average eva?
Don't be dumb
200 is average
And nanoda is about average
Yukikaze has more eHP with Rudder + Toolbox, which is not recommended but still
also eva is pretty diminishing at those high values, esp in pvp
Ya'll go back to yr degen-help
Same with Z23
ironbloods has around 150 eva
which makes them more frail CLs
due to CLs having much HP
Also when u do yr eHp calculations, set Enemy Acc value to pvp value, not pve
don't forget you fighting not mobs
dont need eva if ur ships outrun shells 
I seen some ppl thinking that yr battle score reward depends on enemy fleet strength 
They even refresh meme fleet

Would you use Izumo gun when you're running 3BB squad?
On 1 of them
Yea KGV WarKai Monarch
So Izumo gun on WarKai yea?
Thankiew
izumo gun works really good on ws w/ namagi
and after retro ws will have more chances to target marked main

Need to stop telling ppl how to easy gensui on saturday
This is getting competition, lul

Push on Friday all, degens 




The casuals certainly do care about about top 10 EoS when they're baited with a "good season start" 
then it starts setting in that they need more than a slight bit of luck early season.
and they give up, and say "next season, i'll try when I get a REALLY good start", every season 
Lets be fair, u only need good time zone
and ability to check in game at least once an hr
Or fucced up enough schedule to do that in wrong time zone
(neet sleeping at day)
AL pvp is the last pvp to brag about 
Wait, we don't have PVP
My advice for playing in crappy timezone: do your pvp earlier 
"give me bonus points" ;)
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Idk, a whale ladder is a straight
for me
F2P whale
hilarious
Teach me


People just can't accept loss so boil it down to the cheapest reason they lost

Skill? Nah lag
Skill? Nah P2W

Skill in general is
esp w/ autopvp

What's the typical timezone for the euro folks here anyways? Maybe I'll emulate that for a challenge 
Emulate working day for a challenge...
Well, its not that difficult to check your phone every couple hours in an office job 
Well, not all works work like that...
and 3-4 hrs already puts you at big disadvantage
you basically up to 1 bonus per reset
try doing a season checking only 30 mins after reset and 30 mins before reset
That's about how dum b this system is
I'm sure the most busiest person in the most fucked timezone can do better than just 30 min after and before reset 
lol...
well, sure
Meanwhile ppl have to push 10 tix after reset to not lose them...
cause they will miss next reset whole
But, sure

If you sleep 12 hrs a day, I believe that.
why 12?
lol
wtf u talking
You have to wake up at 8 for work, yr reset at 8
previous reset 2 am
Will u wake up like every 2 hrs to check yr fuccing list?
Also u need to prepare before going for work...
Or yr reset is 10 am, work starts 8:30-10 somewhere
U can check list once
My reset is 9 am after DST change... I usually wake up closer to midday. I just push my tix before or right after middle of night reset if I'm still awake
I will emulate Italy timezone next season, in memory of xy
https://puu.sh/EHRPA/73341eeb3a.png
Dunno what u try to "emulate"
Probs active times for pushing
If u don't actually live it

Suddenly timezone doesnt matter anymore 
I mean, if u are actually not working man...
I'll be doing this anyways, for fun.
some student
that can play game anytime on lectures
and live in dorm next to it
timezone won't impact yr checks much
for regular ppl it impacts ability to check list A LOT
esp if u have no ability to make break at work for 6 hrs
Well, if you're that hardcore of a worker/student. Maybe playing games at all just isn't practical 
So u forbid ppl playing after work?

Like, if u work hard, u don't deserve games?
That's 200 IQ
Well, people who have such a restricted schedule often find it hard to do any high level content in any sort of game in the first place, whether it be competitive modes or raids etc. That's just how it is.
And with regular ladder with daily tickets that's no problem
Well, no
That's not truew at all
I been in many guilds with working ppl and we just gather in the evening to do raids and other stuff
You just need more region based guild
there even national guilds anyway
So u can do all hardcore daily activities just fine
That even helps a lot to learn how to do that stuff in most efficient and fast ways

Well, idk man if you can't be assed to check your phone a couple times a day idk what to tell you.
indeed couple
couple times per reset
not even per day
yeah, no problem
As i said 1 time after reset, 1 time before reset
just saying that's it's like only game having pvp timegated 
Most pl used to ladder with daily tickets
and there yr ability to check in game doesn't matter
Well, another problem is AL bonus system..
Just this 2 things together is crap
Mst games i jsut check in for like an hr in the evening, do dailies, guild war etc.
and pvp
I expected more ppl to push this reset, i got to rank 3 in like 1st 5 mins and only booted to 20
well, in those games yr team matters in the 1st place
In AL u can win with meme
You are good exmple

And not like AL has any hardcore gear farming
Like say E7
or similar
well, coupled with reduced access to top units due to... FGO like rates

AL on top of the aspect of resetting allows u to win with low winrate/power team without op event units, also will open ppl high WR comps w/ warkai without limited units, like warkai, qe, hood/mona/Cent
A heaven for f2p/newcomers in that part
i mean that's just because they dont do pvp adjustments
you could make other ships more useful with pvp specific changes
but that would be effort
and spaghetti
xD
~~I'm laughing out with this whale guy carry us every guild war singlehandedly, he hold the gates and wrecks their whales on gates
~~
Do you know when will the guide/tierlist be updated to include WS retrofit?
and we just cut out all the insides
When ws comes
in... 5 days?
At best

You can just ask...
Or look for old CN tierlsit
i wonder if there will be major changes in the tl with WS
NamagiWarkai
and WarkaiFC
on same tiers as they are
And all the lower tier comps w/ warkai, like warkaifoxes
which probably no1 will bother to include
And will need to test wakai kgv + qe/mona/cent etc.
cause CN/JP has little of KGV input
But cancer remains cancer, if you about that





is it interesting to roll on the new collab banner? In pvp i mean, do we even care?
Ok that's exactly what i thought
Kizu was inter4esting tho
Some of Kizu units, CA and BB were very good at lvl 100
But they were crap at 120, due to almost no stat growth after 100
tho i'd spent at least some of free gems on dock
qeq
Well, u just keep like 100 op botes and 50 slots left for whatever
Now the game has over 300 botes...
384
w/ retroes

i keep every single ship while playing f2p 
Well, if u don't buy some stuff, like 3rd scademy slot, dorm slots and second floor...
No 2nd floor
idk how far u can go on dock w/ f2p gems

there been plenty of apologems overall by now tho
800 at least i think
that's 40 slots 
overall u'd need 400 slots by nw if every ship + bulins... + fodder
250 slots is 5k gems
dunno i currently have 0 bullins since i have to retire them every time to play a map without having to retire 

retire bulin 

y not just lb ships lul
i dont even know why i keep those 10000 useless ships
but thats to hard to retire them.
I retire non waifu ships after theyre lb for fleet tech
"what is my purpose?"
"you're fleet tech"
I don't even have a single lvl 120 ship
I aint lvling ships I hate to 120
not in a million years bruv
there 3 stages of points gain per ship
acquiring, MLB, 120
well, 1st too are easy
by another purin on exchange


in fact i have skiped the whole fleet tech thing for years since i didnt really care 
But ๐ code
It should be fixed already

It shows added numbers n offense, but they don't actually apply in battle
or supposed to not at least
How do you know for certain?
no way to test that ig


I think cn or jp had it fixed shortly after
Nobody will ever know

Earlier on, CN people were saying level 10 acted as level 1
but how do you turn off your fleet tech
so you cant test it in the end
You can
I saw a post like, OCT last year
how
& it never got brought up again
def fleet + offense
ehh maths
with how spaghetti this game is
its bound to have small differences

and fleet tech is already small enough of a bonus
burn won't have any diff
it's constant value
burn skills and fp
and fes
naga barrage has 30% chance to burn
But my tech bonus is 5 FP so...


Amagi 6 fp
just test with essex flood ;)
shoo
what's yr ezsex avi tech?
test my burn dmg kiro when you find me 
strange, some of my ships have no tech switch
or if i can find you ill test your flood
what sorcery is dis
im not using essex atm

my formie avi bonus 12
like the ui button?
yes

who is that? xD

I wanted to 100 aff her before mlb



Gmmm
Mikasa is Acc

ye, kongous Eva
whole +4 eva
after all kongous
And doesn't affect BBs
BC only affect Bcs...
Want to sleep and cannot push tix cause all list higher rank... 
yeet +9s or lose tix

Emulate this timezone bs



imagine
not having essex

and does anyone use essex in pvp even still
thats like
2017 meta
im the only person who used essex ;)

I'll top 10 but
First seems borderline impossible

Even if I overtook Blazing & Novae, Kamita is still 5 on me

Last season after gensui I basically didn't bother, slept/missed like 4 resets

On top of that i usually sleep at the season reset period
Also few times i make it top 10, i usually end up having same season score as some1 else, who pushed right after reset, and i waited few hrs w/ 0 bonus just for nothing to just land 2nd or 3rd w/ exact same seasonal score 
since it works on basis of 1st come 1st served
So even i'm still awake, i rather just push right away at last seasonal reset and 

Made a mistake on that last excel, turns out Euro time zone isn't easy as I thought but its not that bad either. Euro work hours line up with my sleep hours so that much doesn't change at least. The only problem is the 2nd recharge at 2am, so you can look forward to me becoming food two hours early on weekdays next season 

well, main problem for eu u sleep last day period
which happens to be most active for na too
after work time
But east coast and west coast also makes big diff 
Like, for example, in WF, after like 2 am on GMT+0 region becomes so dead, i have to switch to NA to even get somebody on public, it becomes solo game, lul
Recruiting squad in eu that late is grave thing, can take half an hr
and u won't get full
While in NA it's right about most active time
And for a second we talk about 50k+ online at given moment

Sandy is mostly EU anyways. I always find it much harder to get bonus in the 6 hour period while EU is asleep than while NA is asleep during their 12 hour period.
I dont think my score is going to change much during this experiment. Though, I might lose 1st place eos.
Eldridge underrated. No lie.
I got 1/4 of 119>120 so far since wednesday
She is not even in dorm
will lvl up anyway after kai
put her flag for more exp
nagato flank big brain


you know, i should have tried it sooner, but sandy should have been my first choice for gun damage
115 dd gun with mgm+1, huge area barrage, plenty of fp
also helps that i dont need 3 hms since i swapped kgv for ws
xD
this is unfortunate. even if I somehow manage to sandbag on EoS day, I'll still be in 2580 range
guess I'll super rush my matches because there's nothing left to lose 
2580 would probably get you top 3 on Sandy 
lost 1 and forgot to do 1. At least this time I didnt lose sleep 
also lost all my refreshes trying to get @shell heron

I even threw away 6 points rushing 5 matches even though I didnt need to.
Ate 4 +9s and even a +8
1st try: enemy Namayuu all alive, my ws with few hp left
2nd try: my Namaws all alive and nanoda
RNG 
blame rudder procs 

hax
why 
they fought over pokemon

you cant back read
banned so msg auto deleted
im asking your pvp points

answer loser
oops yea no wonder i only see kuro wall of texts

i already pushed to gensui
cant compete eos cos i missed 4 charges
how many maximum gensui available?
so in order to get Gensui, you have to be top 10?
yes
so there will be only 10 of them swimming around at one time?
assuming you have atleast 2200 pts
10 at a time
but for the whole season theres no max
if you hit top 10 at any point (with atleast 2200 pts)
then you get gensui
And once you get dropped of top 10 u get demoted obviously
u only need to get top 10 once
well, u get rank up rewards once per season
famine missed 1 charge
nah, he lost battle
go tryhard now peco

Shadow karma
mmmm
if i knew early i wouldve tried
im really busy this month and the next
financial year end
so ill pass trying to top 1
i work in finance


Loser. 
you missed your only chance
who said famine will only lose this rounds
Kamita got it covered anyway




Everyone already knows how pointless EoS is, espeically the ones who go for it. We only do it because we can 

U can waste time resetting
it isnt that bad
I prefer to make it fast and forget
Can't meme, when u remember about reset 3 mins before reset
why settle for london when i can just sandy kai

plus she's tankier lel
im already done resetting 10x daily after not getting nagato
now let me enjoy stress free pvp with kfc
which channel is that again

xD
And no Refunds
not sure if she mvp because of shooting planes or doing damage big thonk
planes
fight 3bb comp and find out

There will be soon
Same like junie mvp
well, top vg damage, not mvp really

Then you know yr fleet is meme
Sundays in Al are like paydays 
What does z flag exacrtly... The special thing it gives and to whom.. Do i assume right its mikasa only?
yea


wtf is that score


pretty much 0% winrate
so, warspite kai obliterates pvp backlines?
depends on the opponent equipment
but on offense with qe she pretty much kills 1 opponent easily
Didnt even stay casual r1 
With QE? Now those are some words I like hearing 

Don't think Qe will make it Into warkai, KGV, Mona tho
And ppl will more likely use warkaiFC
We strive for memes 
Lol
running ws not 120 w/ izumo gun and shell and she crits pretty often for 2.4k+ on heavy
almost 2.7k on med armor
4x 9pts but no missed attacks or losses this season 
Part of me wants to rush 5 and get that easy r1 
lel
Become a goodie
So if the rainbow torp fires twice, use that, but if it doesn't use quad mag?
is that how that works?
close but not really
you only use quads over rainbow if you're sure quads can fire twice while rainbow cannot
like jun lead or aurora
sometimes they survive long enough but most of the time no
and oh you can sync rainbow perfectly with formi so thats another thing ig
tbh I find those sometimes die without firing twice either, so it's a wash imo
Depends on how enemy damage dist is incoming
Is that worth to marry your whole team for pvp?
That depends on you
i mean in term of stats

you don't need to, but it noticably helps

although, whether it helps enough to really matter, 
y but does the game take into account the bonus stats in pvp?
If you want to be serious about PvP (lol?), you'll have to oath to be able to contribute testing
but tbh almost nobody cares enough about that, it's usually a flex thing
Just be glad they didn't allow fleet tech in PvP 
there used to be a bug where your fleet tech bonuses applied to enemy fleet and not your own in PvP
which was apparently hilarious on CN, where some ppl had really stacked up their fleet tech
No one else noticed though, since most don't have it that stacked up
outstanding lvl of care from AL / players i see 
You heavily underestimate the level of ๐ coding of AL's ๐ฅ devs
It's some next lvl stuff


That's unacceptable!
I run out of cog chips too fast
I buy them from the CD shop

well, i never do

I still have like 900 to get from HM

Leaving them for a cut off on something I wanna 120 fast


I get bullied by people with 50-60k
I spam 1200 comms on subs now, just lbed a bunch of 105 subs


I'll dorm my subs when PR2 comes out
I dorm other stuff
Atm I just dorm random ships to 100
i dorm hms, buki and so on
I need 2nd ijn vg urgent
some of my botes hit 120 too early, some hit 200 too early...
I have taihoe and dork at early 120 now
and a bunch of early 200s
My only ships that seem to hit 120 before 200 are CVs i've used langley & houshou with
188 still


esp since she mvps
Dork was pure pve and still hit 120 early
cause she as well mvp all the time

i spammed her in ch12 boss fleet
I know monarch I did during DC rerun
even things like Portkai get rekt at 113+
chinawall just shits on all
more broken eva, than amagi
they have same Eva Rate buff
not eva stat buff
yat sen
Shiyo...

Time to hunt shiyo with pitchforks and torches
Also another game w/ Shiyo art comes global...
Yat is one of best waifus
Like half shiyo ships...
w/ no skins...

Can't even flex

Best deres at Shiyo 



so if my frontline is belfast, aurora and sirius
belfast would get my one rainbow torp
and the other 2 would have quad mags?
siri torp stat is 
siri already does tank job, replace Bel w/ nanoda
better put it on bel and let siri lead
nanoda ideal for rainbows too
then jun
nanoda is bad doge, no waifu
he only uses waifu kek
I do have bel in tank pos
so move bel into offtank to switch with sirius?
and have rainbow on bel
yus
how big is the difference between oath max affection and no oath?
6%
is that enough that I care? I'm feeling like no
That only really matters for Hp on high hp ships
main fleet, azuma
FdG and Azuma Especially
6% extra hp is big w/ pvp multiplier of 2.34
so if I wanted to oath for stats but only had 1 spare ring, doing the flagship would be best?
cause flagship tanks the barrages
not really
flag only takes Nagato barrage and more dangerous ryuusseis
rest barrages are on flanks
you say that like 99% of ppl don't have nagato lmao
If u oath for stats, oath something cornerstone used in any nation comp
nanoda, amagi
well I'm willing to oath for not-stats any of the ships that I'm using (because using waifu ships)
Azuma
but they don't have oath skins
and I'm waiting for oath skins to get added before I use rings lmao
GL
Look if artist even active
If they just waiting for contract to time out...
U can probably forget about oath skin
Other artists draw non oath skins
why is og artist only one allowed to do oath
oathing only one waifu doesnt end very well
you'll either oath them all eventually or regret why you used that one ring on that bote

I've used 2 and I have 2 sitting
I used more, than i would like to...
but my problem with skins is when they bring random props into battle
like belfast's oath skin has a fucking window
WHY IS THERE A WINDOW
Enty window...
so I'm not going to use belfast's oath skin if I oath her
and if I'm not going to even use her oath skin I should oath someone else first that I do actually like the oath skin of
I'm desesitized to oppai
95% of the girls in this game have tits at least as big as their head
She has just a bouquet
It looks fine
rosa boar looks dumb
yup
well, i care more about art, not chibi
Only chibi I dun really like is Mogamin
pouting
I care about chibi more than anything cause that's what I actually see when playing the game
I auto, i don't look
can't have 12 secretaries on the home screen simultaneously
I auto too but you can't get away from seeing their chibis in the fleet screen
when clicking battle
can deal with that, i dune ven pay attention
lul
I don't like some party chibis, tho i like art

I am extremely picky about anything that requires dollars lmao
That artist only do skins for Prinz..
Where phoenix oath skin
oh wait, Helena since party skins got new artist, means prinz too?
cordial looks like same artist
well, her casual is 





























