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lul
cl gunboats in pvp are pretty meh
battles too fast to make gunboats compete w/ torpbotes burst
birmi is ok by virtue of fp buff and 5 second prevent death
balti is not cl
And CAs only cause there few w/ really good torps
So gunboat CAs dun feel worse then torp cas
well, CLs evade... CAs kinda supposed to tank...
says literally nothing?
and like...
cas are just cls with bigger guns
They made CAs not source of damage in pvp
Don’t forget to ping @trim horizon guys


CLs just torp shit out of you
the majority of CAs in the game are dps
If Portland had actual good skills instead of the trash she’s left with
She mighty actually be used in PvP 
That’s why I said skills
and her skill is really good for tanking
all the meta CAs are just power creep
where they realized you know
maybe CAs arent fun
when they're made of paper

KEKW
Sanrui 
roon is bullet sponge
That's old
Torpmeme frontline or standard tank frontline?
if u go all out on speed, go all out...
Torpmeme
either reset after preloads

I always play from def, so i dun like that take on things
why i never used foxes really
this is one good rush time
another rusher

Also HMS is already t1 even without warkai 
fc is like 0.5
Well, the right HMS comp anyways
A shame I can’t really do warkai + centaur + Formi
I mean I can but...
Well, u can
It’s literally vanilla in terms of stat boosts

Still has the good ol dirty Formi cent synergy and they still sync with warkai’s barrage
So I suppose it could work? But meh

I think KGV or QE is probably better in terms of synergy for that comp
Well, for FC to really do their job, as any other double cv comp, it's best to ensure u wipe enemy vg w/ 1st strike and open up enemy main for second airstrike ammunition
If they still can do it in 2
then ws will work np
And FC does a pretty good job of wiping vg with first strike, which is why they're good
well, kgv early shot on vg or even qe boost just make you sure it will work as intended
but if it's really unneeded, then no point
Some ppl run FC with like MOna, so they could tell
It's relative to WS
mona/Hood
I don't think we will get any feedback here anyway 
Can continue theorycrafting all day long


As the residence HMS fanboy who refuses to touch filthy weeb IJN, I’ll come back to you with some test results once warkai is here

Test now w/ Hood/Mona
U just need to see if FC alone wipes vg on1 st strike
and Hood/Mona just pressure main same as ws

Nothing beats 2x dmg

Enty retro when?

Lexi onee-san retro when
And Irisviel
She so damn forgottten
How much she carry all early days

Reborn as siren

Well, in KC shipgirls that sink turn into Abyssals and abyssals can be purified back to shipgirls...
In Al it doesn't work like that

The perpetual cycle of damnation and purification...
shipgirl>abyssal>shipgirl
only shitkikans let their shipgirls die 

mona/hood still works for formi+cent setup yea
problem is the rng barrage
they always have ~10-15% lower winrate than kfc
warkai will fix that then
and mona tank is not that good anyways cos poo luck and she needs hit aux more than anyone else
yea warkai should be an upgrade to kgv
i hope so
problem is less VG pressure
ill prolly go back to stall VG and just wait til my backline cleans enemy backline
yea was about to say thats a weird comp with ibuki and qe
Well, that's the main thing we needed to know, does FC alone without kgv early shot on vg or QE buff clear VG...
Now you say less VG pressure is problem..
So do they clear vg alone or not?
yea even with kgv they cant clear VGs in 1 airstrike tbh
cause ws obviously bring nothing to the table
well they can but not 100% of the time cos fk ykkz
well, if they don't do it 100% w/ KGV/QE
Might as well just go w/ warkai early main -1
and make that 100% at least be not as important
kfc 1st airstrike usually puts namaryuus at around 40-50% hp
then 2nd airstrike triggers final counter and clears namagi
but with warkai maybe they can kill amagi on 1st airstrike reliably
or finish ryuu on 2nd
yea that also

So just shoot her
I dun swap position, either amagi duel or taihoe tank np
Tbh
There’s some decent setups with FREEDOM
If you do like pure CV backline which has its own share of issues
Well, let me brainstorm real quick
Enty + Essex + Fill (fill can be Amagi, Monarch, Warkai, Saratoga, whatever you think works)
VG: Juneau, Baltimore, either Ykkz Aurora or Helena
Note that you still need 4 USS to proc all of Essex’s skills so Juneau Balti work well for this
Having Aurora or Helena in this comp is uber squishy but it works well offensively
balti is as squishy
Ye so running double squish VG may not be ideal
I suppose you could also replace balti with Helena and run ykkz and still proc Essex
not using amagi in any comp 
i might try leipzig soon
Talking about game factions
@vague token she should work similarly to Birmingham

What is better, SG Radar or white shell?
And I assure you Birmingham is actually pretty solid in PvP weird as that my sound
shell is mem in most cases
And is SG Radar good for vanguard
white shell is only good on a few ships with crit rate skills/mechanics
no
vg runs rudders
Never
if at all
SG always for backline
lel

;)
I prefer doner kebab
SG is more for inflating FP but now we have rudders for that 

So, basically backliners have priority on all evasion gear
Imagine once Eugen Kai is released
And white shell is just a meme
1 ship doesn't carry
wish wiki had efficiency in the list tables
Do you have like... examples of ships, that'd use white shell
=/
roon...

But roon isn't really that good in pvp, is she?
she is Bad
She isn’t
I’m sure Leipzig Kai has better performance than Roon in PvP
Cause safety first is hella swagging

I mean her skill is focused around long battles, and pvp seems to be the opposite, most times
Ye
pvp is incredibly frontloaded
yr vg need maintain certain speed
hoo boy
Well carrying forth, let’s see why does Graf Zeppelin suck?
would be good
or you are sitting ducks
Is it because her equipment is trash?
she has 0 damage
Is it because her skills don’t do enough?
because stuka, even with the efficiency boost, are still worse than heccdiver
Many issues here so
her red skill is useless
We scratch Graf completely
she basically 1 skill
Because shit bote

aside from stacking her buff on like 2CVs...
she needs just some decent second skill
and a decent art
One day QE Kai will come out

monkey face
i mean, if they gave her a w/e barrage and accuracy buff she'd be good
🚮 shall remain in 🚮
instead id rather she steal warspites targeting skill

shelling? prioritize her target
Interesting proposition
aimed barrages? ignore normal rules and focus her target
that would be really wasted tho
it would skip vanguard so not really?
imagine she prioritize vg ship, you lost basically
@sharp wing the first time was last night, in my glorious dreams rehearsing the glory of the British empire
or all barrage/ammunition go off at once and all wasted on 1 target
Amagi FDG WS kai meta soon™
When a Royal Navy ship reaches 20% hp they become invincible for 5 seconds
that's good meme
i mean, you could just use more fixed aiming attack patterns instead
it would be up to you how much aimed weaponry you use
I personally am a big fan
Of Birmingham and Leipzig’s 5 second imvincibility skills

It’s even better when it’s on a VG tho
and still take ramming damage

Hiryuu Kai dumb
well, you wouldnt waste flood/burning damage for one
because it would push her under threshold
unlike current invuln
u cannot die from those
it would though, because then you're not wasting damage
she would only be able to get rammed
Well, I’ll eagerly await the day QE Kai comes
nothing is wasted
Hopefully it comes with Renown Kai as well even tho Renown Kai is useless in PvP
it doesn't change antyhing...
and push them under 30
it'll trigger invuln
which means you dont have to waste your next strike/gun
forcing the invuln
it just does it immediately
and continues lowering their hp
past 30
that's nice, we were talking hypotheticals
Either way
30% is whole different matter
Let’s brainstorm KMS fleet assuming Eugen Kai
no
Graf is gutter trash so throw her out the window
Tirpitz is gutter trash so throw her out too
actually if u want to do kms, she is best bet w/ fdg
tirpitz is better than graf imo
at least you can meme +70% damage amp
when last bb standing
xD
more mem ye
Carrying forth
_>
And when u use Amagi it is totaly KMS

So we are back to NamagiFdGAzuma
Well, Amagi at least was axis...
No disgusting IJN furries
Pffft pure KMS is defective
U said that yrself
We all know this to be true


Give Eugen Kai pls
Roon is Eugen Kai
It can't go any better

Is PVP UI bugged.. doesn't show points till next rank...


100 cubes down the drain, no u-47, and i'm in dire need of coins
jintsu + yuki + sendai still work?
fast reset 
ok still trash

well, being more squishy than aurora, is a big feat

but her torp buff stacks w/ Jint
so big openings
u can try to go all out jint sendai aurora 

Not bad





Can we get a list of squishiness from most squishy to least squishy on tech VG botes?
So like, Aurora Sirius Baltimore Helena Sendai etc
Sendai > Aurora > Helena
Just open wiki stat comparison table
it's pretty obvious
just take into accoutn skills, like jintsu 20% dred
otherwise she would be as frail
as sendai
2500-2600 hp at 120 is joke
almost DD lvl
But they don't have DD eva
siri is not squishy
Just not as tanky, as belfap
balti, well
better then those 3
For real, u need to take some eHp calculator and calculate eHP w/ actual gear
Depends on what's incoming as well
E.g. torps and planes are better tanked by Sirius, guns by Balti, roughly equal for Namagi barrages
But for the CLs, HP and skills (and AA for planes) tells you everything
ye, one of Auroras squishiness problems she also has no AA 
333 unoathed is very high
Not Jun levels, but higher than most
If anything, that's the larger diff with Sendai, and luck ofc
HP-wise, they're like 150 (premultiplier) off
Sendais are below 300

Yes we all are
We even rage when she lives too long
Tru
why won't you sink, that's all you're good for


Sirius too, gets sky-high AA, especially with CV buffs edit: lol I'm high
She shrugs airstikes off quite nicely since her base HP is fairly solid too
Lol, how i hate when vg runs behind enemy main and launches there all torps 
lol
6k ayanami crits 
if only sirius had torp stat to boost with her skill
help, how do i give lusty mvp
Gimp everyone else

zflag rwg so you can actually hit
and 5% crit
;)))))
does crit work on plane guns




rude


ded list

should I



he is the tyler1 of azur lane
except unlike tyler1 he's neither good at this game nor is he a famous streamer


He's Alive 
nice
Helicopters
like if it matters
Ofc it does
Also it's same skill, as Benson, CerlewKai, YuugureKai...
How else can we meme?

Kiro belongs on sandy

Yr score way off to get you



Cpt yuki ?
Food

cpt yukikaze
dont expect captain yuki to rush. most he'll go up to is 5/10
besides, you already have food to the left lol
izumo pvp 
Lol ok
Is the tierlist up to date?
for the most part ya
👌

What was t10 sandy

Phxf 1st ?
I see
I slept well few hrs over reset

From the end of list


Where is yr daily warn


im pretty sure I'll get one just for pfp

most of the people can't even get the 5th one

And some casuals still have 1 pr
one botes and not even Dev30
ye

also going to have time to see how disappointing Azooma it will be
🚽
Ran into 2 rushers so far, hows everyone else’s season goin?

305 9/10 
yr gonna lose tix anyway
Cause i dun shit on waifus
got only 2 bonus at start of season

I call mods
yea


Y wont desuland drop
cuz you disgusting
I know
Had my 13th NNN loss today cuz of her beach skin
why wont she drop
I even changed my fleet to a full choco team


they finally implement random sec rotation heh
ok name your top 5 sec you lazy bastards
taihou atago tacao roon and maybe NC?

juneau boys 
Of course it's ykkz jun namaryuu

Nagara isu buki izu fury rotation 1
5 yama 5 different skins
3 buki
2 izu

That's pretty good feature tho, can get aff on ship and use actual sec u like
99% of time my sec is jsut the 1 i farm aff

that line up make me nostalgic 
🚮
Rush is meta for food
#joinrushersquad
298 8/10 @trim horizon
287 9/10
Foodie Division recruitment always opened
I lost to kingston last season. Did not get enough nourishment feelsbadman
https://puu.sh/EDc0l/ac3d95e138.png I would have had a chance if the guy I was waiting on did his fucking pvps but no, he left it at 5/10 eos.
how the hell does that point system even work
quick maffs




@fair prism https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Exercise . Basically you accumulate points and accumulate even more points by fighting higher ranked players.
Exercises, sometimes called Operations, Mock Battles or PvP Battles, are the portion of the game where the player's fleet is pitted against a fleet constructed by another player, with the goal to accumulate Merit and progress in Rank. Note that the attacking fleet will get a...

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Roon and Helena p2w char development
Thats nsfw

Where are the mods
Ping someone


Roon dress
Damn, close


Not buying rewn skin




this season I won't compete again tomorrow I have to rush

also finally
they made the emote tab dark themed too
disco
Anyway tho . . .
Watdehek with Lusty/Centaur/Formie smhw
it's about Azuma
Arent they need some Azuma tho
Otherwise
Sucks hard
It seems
Also, the lack of bacon in EN still hits hard tbh
not that hard as u make it look
it's less than 1 sec for half cvs
Just that I'd prefer a slightly faster reload smhw lel
enemy will have it too
I mean we skipped 2 month worth of 🥓
Other than the tick dmg
The source of the cancer itself is already there on her Hana! Mi! Ettoooo . . . EHHHH
faster planes, less hits from aa circle, and bigger hp boost
Beacon does matter for vs BBs
Lets you match mk6/410AP in timing, and stops amagi from hitting CV before it launches
Actually, it does, since BB fire is what often triggers Final counter and what finishes her off after
So it's also a diff of ~1 strike
those 2 secs won't make her launch extra
and swapping her other gear for it
she launches her airstrike middle of proc
Depends who procs it
Mk6/410AP procs are right on edge
Amagi 2nd/3rd set is another, or Nagato 3rd/4th set (with 381kai)
nagato can reach that point at 1 minute mark only...
Nagato 3rd shot is at 2nd strike, and 4th shot a bit before 3rd
If her 3rd procs counter, 4th will kill
u won't overrun 3rd amagi shot
Not so sure on that
and match lasting 4 naga shots is like really ridiculous
It happens whenever barrages only proc 1-2 times
Or actually for Nagato 3rd in particular
2nd airstrike is about it's ending
2nd procs counter, 3rd hits before airstrike? Not sure on timing
Beacon though for sure means strike happens first
2nd strike happens with or without
and then match ends
and trading eva gear or oil tank sounds not optimal
Oh, once it's out you have to run it
Otherwise other CVs outspeed you
Or, if your opponent doesn't run it, you hit strikes before they launch by 2nd strike or so
And how many of your most tight fights go to that 
But yeah, Avgas/beacon becomes usual Hiryuu setup, with Avgas sometimes dropped for eva
It's like some ppl like to run Junie tank

same w/ ryuu beacon
both options are not wrong
pearl on ryuu BiS aux
REKT



130 coobs gone
My ws hit 200 too early, so now she's guarding dorm
























