pvp

[ashen lion]

Nope

[forest lake]

Anyone on JP/CN using PR Gasco for PVP?
Care to share performances?

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

🚮

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

[forest lake]

[ionic magnet]

bait question

i still love my gascan

[sharp wing]

Hey, japs love JB in pvp

[ionic magnet]

are they even trying

[forest lake]

[meager dawn]

I think I just saw a namaryuu use 127mm on both nagato and amagi

[hot creek]

good dps.

for defense

[meager dawn]

Better on them than the belgun?

[hot creek]

Yes, way better.

thats why you use DD guns on any CL that can equip them.

[meager dawn]

I thought CL guns were the guns you always use on BBs tho

[hot creek]

the only exception for your BB secondary is Nepgun. And only on offense because it has extra range + the fact that VG battle takes place closer to your side so its almost always shooting at enemy VG

If you were talking about PVE sure, CL gun secondary is good for suicide boats

[meager dawn]

So 127mm is the auxgun for BBs in pvp?

[hot creek]

Yeah if you don't have french DD gun or Nepgun.

[meager dawn]

I only have 2 french DD guns

[trim horizon]

Not worth putting them for pvp

Unless its for Jun

[meager dawn]

I have it on sandy

[hot creek]

yeah just stick with 127 as aux then. doesnt make that huge of a difference. 127 aux still gonna shred any enemy VG that goes up to your backline.

one of my french guns permenantly attached to Laffey lol

[meager dawn]

How does the burn chance work for BB auxguns?

Is it tied to the gun or the ship?

[sharp wing]

gun

[meager dawn]

So no 50% burn chance with auxguns

[sharp wing]

DD gun burn

CL guns as aux will only win in dps vs Med armor over DD guns

So in Azuma era

Then Azuma equips Armor and DD guns still win in dps vs Heavy

[trim horizon]

Burn on backline doesn't really matter when you have that %

[fiery flare]

Is Birmingham good?

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

This is new

[trim horizon]

There is only one person who use Birm here

[sharp wing]

Birm was even nerfed

Too op

[trim horizon]

Is Azuma w/ armor even worth it

[sharp wing]

well, not vs foxes

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

cause 20% extra damage from avi

[trim horizon]

Foxes in pr2 meta

:akagil

[sharp wing]

but vs 3 bbs

or namayuu...

[trim horizon]

Gyrobols meta

[sharp wing]

torpmeme also will spank her hard

+30%

in mirror like teams it sure worth

[trim horizon]

Switching gear is 🚮

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

did someone say birm?

[trim horizon]

Yeah

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Not like Azuma with off bonus not broken enough to shrug that +30% off

[trim horizon]

@ Rayos#6252

[hot creek]

I got confused between Birmingham and Baltimore

[sharp wing]

lel

200 aff 120 azuma in pvp has 18645 hp

[meager dawn]

18k hp for a frontline ship

[sharp wing]

And that is not eHP

even

just pure hp

+20% offense dred and eva

[vague token]

balanced

[meager dawn]

Is azuma screwed by torps and planes with the armor?

Or does that not screw her as much

[sharp wing]

in mirrors there no such things

[vague token]

technically, not really relative to her hp

[sharp wing]

surface torps deal +30% damage to heavy compared to med and avi bombs/airborne torps deal 20% more

[vague token]

the gains you make in total hp and not getting rekt by amagi/nagato barrage

is huge

[sharp wing]

amagi barrage is non factor

[meager dawn]

armor + torp bulge on azuma

[vague token]

i mean amagi barrage is 100% rng

on who it hits

xD

[sharp wing]

now you gonna be glad to have Junie actually 200 in that comp

[vague token]

1/6 targeting lel

[sharp wing]

Even if amagi target vg, not all shots even land + miss

bb/bc acc

Amagi targetting yr vg is like already a win hint

I'd be happy if she had non targeted barrage

Can't rely on her "dueling" for shit

[meager dawn]

non targeted barrage? there are ships change their barrage to target something else?

[sharp wing]

Amagi arcing shells in barrage are targeted

she can shoot whatever on the field

1/6 to target a ship

[meager dawn]

which one is the arcing shells in her barrage? there's a lot of shit in her barrage

[sharp wing]

the ones that arc...

[meager dawn]

The normal shells?

[sharp wing]

the arcing normal shells

cause there also normal shells

straight

and ap straight

[meager dawn]

Her barrage has so much shit in it

[sharp wing]

just 3 guns

[meager dawn]

I didn't even know there were arcing shells

[sharp wing]

You even used her

The big shells in barrage arc and they are targeted part

[meager dawn]

[sharp wing]

Well, you see her in pvp

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/d/d6/Bullet_pattern_skill_11800.gif

Well, at least arcing part there is right...

jp wiki gif is not much better

[empty grove]

What are those 2 little blue balls

[sharp wing]

Cesare still best barrage

I forgot i wanted to skill it

Out of yellow books, though still got red

[hot creek]

Blackie has LFC

[empty grove]

I need to 120 sheff & sirius

[vague token]

stella

but he's peco now

[hot creek]

Sheff is kind of a meme tbh.

Sometimes she make your Junuea too tanky and you dont heal until its too late.

[vague token]

i mean that's what happens when you are just good tier

and not god tier

xD

you actually are balanced

kek

[meager dawn]

Sheffield + Muse Sheffield double dmg reduction

[empty grove]

I just wanna level her cause she cute

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/EyHqv/de9f25c0c8.png small, medium, large.

[smoky elk]

and the small one going-commando

[sharp wing]

cocky maid, cocky waitress... warmaid

[ionic magnet]

good better best

meidos

[vague token]

isnt sirius a terrible maid?

she's like pure combat

xD

[sharp wing]

ye

[smoky elk]

Sirius is also a bartender

[sharp wing]

she's a bodyguard

[empty grove]

Soft Landing

[vague token]

i wish she had a bit more base FP

[empty grove]

[vague token]

to go with her skill

[ionic magnet]

naughty maid

[vague token]

=(

[ionic magnet]

[hot creek]

Sirius is the bouncer

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[empty grove]

Bouncer

[sharp wing]

Siriusly

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

She actually makes you want to LOSE battles

[empty grove]

[hot creek]

to be continued...in doujin.

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

Swimsuit skin when

[sharp wing]

[smoky elk]

[ionic magnet]

teri teri daishouri

[forest lake]

[shy hazel]

what the

this channel became emote spam channel

[shell heron]

You're saying it wasn't before

[sharp wing]

[forest lake]

[pseudo pond]

more pewpew your other shitkicunts

[empty grove]

[hot creek]

[sharp wing]

At least some1 knows what is pvp

[smoky elk]

[sharp wing]

That's ded eyes

[coral wren]

Guys I think I discovered the best BB gun for pvp

[sharp wing]

No.

[coral wren]

Because it can damage planes

It shoots like, these 20 pellets that cover the whole screen

So they are guaranteed to hit

[sharp wing]

IDK if it really does damage to plane ingame actually

[empty grove]

Triple meme gun meta

[sharp wing]

Also with quad pvp planes health it won't shoot anything down

[coral wren]

I have 6 ready for 2 fleets, just in case

[sharp wing]

Even if does hit planes

[ionic magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483519046721994753/642969584462462977/unknown.png

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

Cultured

[ionic magnet]

you really maxed even aylwin and junyou

[coral wren]

Cultivated

[ionic magnet]

lmao

[empty grove]

Ofc

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

I said I would earlier

Junyou was easy running the two exp slaves

[sharp wing]

Gotta raise that FP

[empty grove]

Atago & Aylwin was kinda annoying

[ionic magnet]

certified memer

[empty grove]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Ata Go

[coral wren]

Ata Go to the polls

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

Atago chasing shikikan w/ collar and lead in hand

[empty grove]

Sounds good to me

[sharp wing]

Good piggy

After you ring atago, she "rings" you back

[forest lake]

[split marten]

is Sirius or Aurora better with KFC

[vague token]

aurora

kgv gets helped

[sharp wing]

But siri can tank

aurora is...

help kgv and

might not live till airstrikes

depends on line up

[vague token]

yep

[empty grove]

12 mins to reset

[vague token]

hmm, would air support from benson/ardent buff ASW plane damage?

[shell heron]

I got my AotN with 6 matches down and rushing

[sharp wing]

Skipped another reset

[merry shoal]

jesus first time as AOTN

never doing that again

[sharp wing]

lol, AoTN is very easy to get

even w/ -10 tix

U should do it couple resets ago tho

[merry shoal]

dont really have the time

[sharp wing]

1st Saturday reset

[merry shoal]

not like that

but free gold bullin is a free gold bullin

[shell heron]

on Avrora?

[merry shoal]

yeah

[shell heron]

I had to rush fast with 6 tix down

[sharp wing]

u need do it before 10 mins after reset

[empty grove]

[merry shoal]

i had to rush RN so whoever sandbag thanks

[sharp wing]

after 10 mins there more ppl like you there

[shell heron]

Give me my neet life back and I'll sandbag to top 10 EoS again

[merry shoal]

yup

naw did it once. not doing it again

just daily pvps and thats it

[sharp wing]

Give us daily tix w/ no 3 resets...

[shell heron]

after 10+ seasons of hard sandbagging, it feels wrong to not sandbag

even casually

[merry shoal]

ikr

had to do it this last few days

[sharp wing]

after 2 dozen seasons

[merry shoal]

is gonna be hard not to do it since i barely knew about this info

[shell heron]

It's worse when you know how to maximize your bonus points

[merry shoal]

pvp is tiring you guys who can do this every season are heroes

or something like that

[empty grove]

Hardcore degenerates

[sharp wing]

You know better

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

[merry shoal]

[sharp wing]

Most hardcore are those who 120 meme defs

[shell heron]

I play this game for the "pvp"

[sharp wing]

For the clock wars

[empty grove]

People 120 meme fleets?

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

My fleet is true power

[shell heron]

pretty much

[sharp wing]

Yan power

[merry shoal]

clock wars?

[empty grove]

Basically your reset time

[shell heron]

yes

[sharp wing]

Try doing pvp as EU player

[shell heron]

it's who can hold out longer for that juicy bonus points

[merry shoal]

i commend your dedication

[empty grove]

I see you

[young mulch]

Ayy missed 8 and still hit first

[empty grove]

[merry shoal]

yeah didnt even last 5 minutes lol

[sharp wing]

After 10 mins it's...

massacre

[empty grove]

I might not get a +1 from this set

[shell heron]

gonna get below 2600 again?

[empty grove]

Maybe

[sharp wing]

Need to record this

[shell heron]

welcome to being a mortal

[sharp wing]

[merry shoal]

bless darkmodp for the sandbag to get 9th

[shell heron]

at some point you remember who are the hardcore sandbaggers and the rushers

getting sandbaggers as 3/4 of your list...

[empty grove]

That can be good sometimes

Unless they push insanely late

Basically guarantees a +1

[sharp wing]

At least you know they will push sometime

[empty grove]

Which is why I hold my matches

[merry shoal]

this sandbagging thing is very knew to me. I only learned about it when i joined here 4 days ago.

[sharp wing]

[merry shoal]

still didnt exactly know if I was doing it right

[sharp wing]

You shouldn't

You are cursed now

[shell heron]

it's a bad thing to get into

you lose sleep over 5s of glory

[empty grove]

I remember when I only wanted to hit first once

[shell heron]

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

Back in like Nov last year

[sharp wing]

1st season in like September atfer Sandy opened i hit top 1 mid season few times

[merry shoal]

just wanted my 2500 points to keep in the mail forever

my trophy

[shell heron]

I miss my naive self which thought rushing all matches was good

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

I still have a screenshot of me hitting rank 9 early on

[shell heron]

it was a simpler time then

[sharp wing]

Good times

[empty grove]

Dejected balls of sandbagging

[sharp wing]

I still keep top 10 and top 20 in 2 other games w/ whale ladder pvp as f2p

[empty grove]

Whale pvp

[sharp wing]

Says who

[merry shoal]

oh god no

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

Sorry whale & lucksack pvp

Even worse

[sharp wing]

ladder is easy, once u hit yr niche, you fend it usually not even losing ranks for days

[shell heron]

give rings a 50% stat boost

[sharp wing]

god no

remove stat bonuses

[empty grove]

Just ring all ships

[sharp wing]

There was one game, where oath opened last 2 lvls of affection system, and each of those lvls had bonus equal to whole sum of all previous lvls/enhancements etc.

[shell heron]

I wonder if not oathing junie would be more efficient then

[sharp wing]

wdym

[empty grove]

Wtf

[shell heron]

when oathing her makes her one purpose useless

[empty grove]

But having 5/6 oathed

[sharp wing]

In Azuma times 200 Junie is kinda needed

or she overheals

[merry shoal]

i mean she doesnt survive more does she?

[sharp wing]

esp if u gonna pearls her

she does

tho ring bonus on vg is not as big as on main

aside Azuma

[empty grove]

If she dies early you lose a lot of the heal

Which is why in some cases you want her to live

[sharp wing]

I use Junie tank, so 200 is good

[empty grove]

I lead her too

[shell heron]

using PR ships as your 3rd VG pick kinda forces pearl on her

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

same and she sometimes outlive nep and ykk

[merry shoal]

i just dont want her to die in the first air strike/ BB proc

[sharp wing]

vs aurora my nanoda often dies 1st

[empty grove]

She shouldn't if you move fast enough

[sharp wing]

before junie tank

[merry shoal]

really?

[empty grove]

& bulge dampens opening torp damage

[sharp wing]

junie even tank survives big 7 and airstrike often on my end

200 aff

[empty grove]

Do you run bulge/pearl?

[sharp wing]

pearl is on other bote

[shell heron]

Junie can eat at least 2 big 7s and airstrikes for me

[sharp wing]

i use bulges on both botes outside nanoda

[merry shoal]

i run bulge/repair on mine

[shell heron]

unless it's a torp meme comp with ibuki

then I pray my boats don't eat all the torps

[sharp wing]

nanoda torps hurt too

but only real threat is Aurora

[shell heron]

she is an IJN DD

[sharp wing]

Aurora is IJN CL

[merry shoal]

aurora is usually paired with foxes from what I have seen

[shell heron]

if fire supressor wasnt mandatory, I would use a rainbow torp

[merry shoal]

not worried about that

[empty grove]

If I wasn't lazy i'd swap out sanrui

[sharp wing]

[merry shoal]

fire suppressor on nanoda? i just use rainbow torp

[sharp wing]

lel

[empty grove]

Then she melts

[merry shoal]

i didnt even think about that really

hmm

[sharp wing]

FE is musthave on nanoda

[shell heron]

you get lit on fire, she's not going to live long

[sharp wing]

If she burns, she sinks

[merry shoal]

gotcha

[empty grove]

Unless she makes the fire tick 1 dmg

[sharp wing]

U cannot tho

[empty grove]

Really?

I've seen that happen before

[sharp wing]

that's the point

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

You sure

[empty grove]

Didn't something mess up with fire dots earlier?

[sharp wing]

in pvp they always messed up

[empty grove]

I could be remembering wrong

I'll pay attention now

[sharp wing]

Well, even if she can

still need FE

[shell heron]

I see a lot of numbers on my screen. kinda stopped keeping track

[sharp wing]

it lowers chances to get fires in the 1st palce

bb shells have 50% to set fires

[merry shoal]

i get 15 fps on my phone so never really payed attention on how nanoda sinks

[empty grove]

I just zone out when doing pvp

[merry shoal]

on my emu i dont look at my frontline at all

[shell heron]

nagato barrage can set you on fire I believe

and you cant dodge that

[sharp wing]

it does

well, u can dodge it

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

you can, but it's AI

[sharp wing]

barrage shells

[empty grove]

Ohh right

Was ykkz that ship with the 600 dot burn ticks from barrage?

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

I know there was one with a really weirdly scaled burn tick from barrage

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

I can remember reading about it a few months back

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

Also the thing is, even if she reduces incoming shell damage to 1, burn still applies at it's value

cause it's independent of shell damage on landing

[empty grove]

So fire X is even more needed

[sharp wing]

Like why skills that reduce arcing shells/bb damage taken don't help vs fires

cause fire only takes into account weapon base damage, eff, slot eff and ship fp or other corresponding stat

w/ any skills affecting burn damage and burn coeff

what damage shell deals on impact doesn't matter

It's not in calc

It just has to not miss

[meager dawn]

Simple solution to burn dmg

[vague token]

lol

[midnight heron]

research

[trim horizon]

Is Birm good for PvP ?

[ionic magnet]

yea if you pair her with hood illustrious + 3rd

[trim horizon]

that shit sux in Ai vs Ai

[ionic magnet]

no u

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402560762033340416/642981406665867265/Snap.gif

[compact jungle]

Is this the secret channel

[trim horizon]

[hot creek]

just make sure not to crop them assets

[compact jungle]

My question is pr ship are gud in pvp?

[ionic magnet]

legit question or?

[compact jungle]

Legit question since I am almost new at this game

[hot creek]

PR1 ship in general are ok. Nothing too gamebreaking.

[compact jungle]

I saw some lv100 put 5 pr ship in pvp

[ionic magnet]

well for PR ships, sanrui monarch neptune are very good in pvp

ibuki too

roon is decent and izumo is cute

[trim horizon]

Roon decent

her ass is just dragging the VG speed for shitty shield

[ionic magnet]

im trying not to trigger roon fanbois

[trim horizon]

[compact jungle]

This is my pvp flert

Feel free to me

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

if you will tryhard, ykkz+jun+X is the staple VG setup

[dense lynx]

[compact jungle]

Don't have ykkz

Who is jun

[trim horizon]

juneau

[compact jungle]

What is x

[ionic magnet]

your backline depends on whether you have nagato+amagi

[compact jungle]

[trim horizon]

X is whoever can use tank position

[compact jungle]

Don't have nagato neither amagi

[ionic magnet]

X just means you can p much put anyone decent and it will work just fine

[trim horizon]

neptune/sanrui/belfast/jintsuu

[compact jungle]

I missed that event cause I'm gei

[trim horizon]

you don't have those ?

don't worry

[ionic magnet]

[compact jungle]

noooou

[ionic magnet]

welcome the club o/

[trim horizon]

Centaur/Formi is the best non-IJN comp

non limited also

[compact jungle]

I have centaur

[ionic magnet]

do you have kgv

[hot creek]

Get

[trim horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466250908682944522/526742291193266186/DnCZSPHVAAAQywe.jpg

[compact jungle]

kgv?

[trim horizon]

get QE

[ionic magnet]

king george V

prolly none

[compact jungle]

Nooou

Don't have king

[ionic magnet]

QE it is

[compact jungle]

I have qe

[ionic magnet]

also do you have warspite

[trim horizon]

[compact jungle]

Yes

[ionic magnet]

start levelling her cos her retro should come soon

[ionic magnet]

she can carry you hard

[compact jungle]

Where's the dmg

[ionic magnet]

after retro

[compact jungle]

No

These sr retro waste me too much resources

[ionic magnet]

we're still not sure if best setup will be ws+formi+cent or smth else

[hot creek]

devs keep delaying the retro anyways

[ionic magnet]

but it should work either way

[hot creek]

if we get PR2 b4 warspite retro i will legit be mad

[compact jungle]

I have formi

[ionic magnet]

you got ykkz?

[compact jungle]

Noou

Don't have ayaya either

[ionic magnet]

[compact jungle]

I don't wanna level javelin

[ionic magnet]

well you're still new anyways

just try to pull ykkz from light build

[compact jungle]

:LaffeyHide-1: cause I am lazy af

there is any drop or only construction

[ionic magnet]

for the meantime you can just slap your highest level botes and just fight what you can

[compact jungle]

Cause I wanna save cubes for polaris

[trim horizon]

[compact jungle]

Wait i show my ships

[ionic magnet]

ykkz is from build only

[trim horizon]

1 build from light a day

Can get you ykkz

[compact jungle]

Well I try to get

[ionic magnet]

and devs just announced polaris will be on early 2020

[compact jungle]

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

hmm

[trim horizon]

Foxes are the best

[ionic magnet]

you can use belfast+juneau+aurora for VG i guess

[compact jungle]

Ok

And backline?

[ionic magnet]

for backline just level cent+formi+qe+ws

[trim horizon]

All 4

[compact jungle]

Well I just used 2 purins for essex

Fuk sake

[ionic magnet]

you have albacore for formi yea?

[trim horizon]

[hot creek]

Essex Enty

[trim horizon]

Where are the memer at

[ionic magnet]

[trim horizon]

Fearless use Amagi tho

[compact jungle]

I have albacore

Don't have amagi

[trim horizon]

[compact jungle]

I don't Have shit

[hot creek]

I can meme too https://puu.sh/ECSyp/da2edbbe8d.png

[trim horizon]

[compact jungle]

Belfast x enty

[trim horizon]

Waiting for PR2 to use those two

[compact jungle]

Essex be like:EssexCry-1:

[trim horizon]

E Ssex+Langley

Georgia

[compact jungle]

[trim horizon]

We're getting PR2 before Wsret

Im sure

Georgia going to be EN snipe

[ionic magnet]

[compact jungle]

What is pr2

[trim horizon]

Pr season 2

[compact jungle]

Fdg?

[trim horizon]

Ye

[compact jungle]

Nice

Too many ship to level

[ionic magnet]

do you have beaver badge

and pearl

[compact jungle]

No

I don't have shit

[ionic magnet]

unlock those also

[trim horizon]

Also once you have everything try to rush your tickets

[compact jungle]

Where I can find beaver and pearl?

[trim horizon]

Early bird catches worm

In your collection

You need to mlb certain ships

[ionic magnet]

[compact jungle]

[ionic magnet]

more ships to level

[compact jungle]

What's mlb

[trim horizon]

Max limit break

But you actually don't need to as long as you limit break tot of time

[compact jungle]

Don't use acrnonyms pls

Don't understand

[trim horizon]

You need to get as many star is required

To unlock said ibject

[compact jungle]

Btw there are few people typing in this channel why?

[ionic magnet]

then there are gears to farm

[trim horizon]

Cuz PvP doesn't exist

[compact jungle]

Oh I understand now ty

[trim horizon]

[compact jungle]

There is a purpose for bulins now

[ionic magnet]

this is emote spam channel usually

[compact jungle]

Gonna sacrifice them

[ionic magnet]

[trim horizon]

This was once off topix

But then new mods came

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/ECSEP/a7a30a89bf.png MessexE

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

[trim horizon]

Those golds

[compact jungle]

don't have sirius

I didn't miss that event

[trim horizon]

Give some to the guild phxf

[compact jungle]

I just got unlukcy and didn't find her

[hot creek]

Im not in a guild. Loner wolf for life

[compact jungle]

Big tiddy cold stared maid

[trim horizon]

I am in a guild I made just to track my ssr

[compact jungle]

[ionic magnet]

you can check pins also

for tierlist and some tips/extra info

[hot creek]

EssexE should be placed higher. trash tier list confirmed

[trim horizon]

Your name in it

[compact jungle]

I retired Arizona and oklahoma

Fuk sake

There is any drop?

[trim horizon]

Of what

[compact jungle]

Arizona and oklahoma

[forest lake]

[compact jungle]

:UniGun-1:

[ionic magnet]

wdym

oklahoma drops everywhere

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oklahoma best ship

Big O

Big Lucky O

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any off topic in chat ?

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we dont do that here

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hood illustrious+3rd sux no auto mode

[ionic magnet]

manualling assets is

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asset cropping

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mod mod mod

[ionic magnet]

you're the only one who gets modded here

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[sharp wing]

I overslept

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well got my 1st golden subpedo

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

my first sub almost 120 now

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[sharp wing]

I only 100 aff them for now

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I just oathed Iroha cuz Tange Sakura

[sharp wing]

Oathing not surc smh

High Culture

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food

[sharp wing]

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why w12-4 is so fucking big

it's annoying when I train my PvP ships

[compact jungle]

Kawakaze gud?

I see a lot of Ppl use her in pvp

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just waifu

[elder crane]

kwkz is good, not the best, but still very good
for PvP, she's overall better than Aya, but neither are that great

[compact jungle]

Confused

[sharp wing]

Kawakaze is light armor hunter

aya is heavy armor hunter

kawakaze is much better for pvp dogfights

surface torpedoes deal low damage to light and average to med armor

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[sharp wing]

Kawakaze makes them hit 115% on all armor

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🚮 pedos

[sharp wing]

35% damage boost to torps vs light armor

On top of making DDs deal 15% more damage to cruisers

Kawaiikaze even more frail, that Aya tho

less hp, less eva and no eva skill

[elder crane]

Just that, you don't really use either preferentially in PvP
Ibuki, Aurora, Jint, Leipzig, and even Sendai, I'd use for a torpfleet before using kwkz or aya

[sharp wing]

Time to oath Lepie and 120

[granite flame]

About to watch the new midway movie, can’t wait to see those filthy foxes get bombarded by American glory 🇺🇸

Watching hiryuu get obliterated will be more fun than doing it myself in pvp

[sharp wing]

Glory... All about luck and coincidence

Another display of vainglory

[sharp wing]

Nanoda mid... literally kills comps

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Gardelia

[sharp wing]

nanoda died 1st

As expected

Jint last

Jint lasted fair

jun tank on offense makes vg win fights extremely good

I need to take beaver from my def and put on off

handicapping myself

There many funny comps now at 1k ranks

chilling at EoS is fun

I see few upcoming ppl, lvling their Ryuus still... Maxed namagis tho

Either break mats problems

seen like 3 ppl like that this weekend

[midnight heron]

u shud see wat comp i use

[sharp wing]

There nothing to see

I'm lvling my taihoe

need new vg to lvl too...

At least she won't hit 200 before 120

that makes me cringe

throw in pvp and forget

My Junie hit 120 so earlier, than 200...

At least she will be good for Azuma comp at 200

200 aff 120 azuma in pvp has 18645 hp

[coral wren]

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she ate too much

[sharp wing]

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[sharp wing]

You are not getting them anyway, so who cares

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[sharp wing]

Azuma is not obese

She might have pretty big assets, but she's slim

Safety comes 1st

softpads

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she have to sit cuz her legs can't sustain her weight

[sharp wing]

Her assets

She is just too tall

Makes shikikan uncomfy

She doesn't like to look top down on shikikan

[compact jungle]

I didn't see junea in pvp

U sure that she is op?

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[sharp wing]

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[sharp wing]

Are u trolling

[vague token]

the only barely ok comp with no juneau is triple torp because you're going full ham on backline pressure

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need another golden boiler

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xD

you can theoretically outdamage juneau's healing with a 3rd torp slot with rng

[sharp wing]

or hms

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torp meme in attack is troll

[compact jungle]

Who is trolling

[sharp wing]

[sharp wing]

Wtf with that gun

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\

[empty grove]

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oh it's EoS

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k ill stop now nimi dm'ed me

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Nimi loves me more

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lusty meta is spreading

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Yes feed us

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another collab eh

to roll or not

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Roll and burn in front of plebs

[sharp wing]

2 collabs...

I dun have so much coobs

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[vague token]

lol

[empty grove]

[fiery flare]

are vanguards with vice defense good?

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hipper, india, nevada, okla ?

no

[vague token]

the best thing that works like vice defense

is sheffield

[sharp wing]

The problem is not in skill, the problem is in botes

[elder crane]

The skill itself isn't that impactful either
compare to the best dreds, and it's just pathetic

If you ever end up using a ship with vice defense, I think it's safe to say it's on the merit of something else about the ship, and not vice defense

[sharp wing]

well, obviously

that's why i say the problem is not even in skill

[vague token]

example mikasa

xD

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she has a 50% increase in activation rate

compared to regular vice defense

xD

12 vs 8

[sharp wing]

SR skill

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but id rather use nevada/oklahoma over her

;)

[empty grove]

15 oil cost for mikasa

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14*

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🔪

[empty grove]

Ohh she's lower

[sharp wing]

Mikasa doesn't even use Oil

coal

[empty grove]

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sold

[vague token]

but hey she can goalie

cl gun and dd gun aux

[sharp wing]

but +1

only

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xD

[sharp wing]

so effectively even worse than 3 cl

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rip

[sharp wing]

she has 2 cl/dd + 2 dd

[empty grove]

[vague token]

are you sure?

i feel like it would only be 2 cl + 1 dd

[sharp wing]

what?

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[vague token]

because spaghetti

[sharp wing]

well, weeb server ppl say it's 2/2

[vague token]

oh ok

i havent tried it

so skeptical

xD

[sharp wing]

I had doubts too

thought like seattle

[vague token]

it's super believable that it would be 2/1

[sharp wing]

well, when even 2/2 succ, 2/1 is...

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2/2 would be fun on like bisco

[sharp wing]

breadguns are pretty good tho

on aux

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yeah

[sharp wing]

But she has poo fp too

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BC fp fun times

although

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i suppose she has 3 gear slots for fp

so it's actually not that horrible

[sharp wing]

well, still horrible

[vague token]

just mostly bad

[sharp wing]

her fp really low

[fiery flare]

so what's the best lineup

[sharp wing]

Ther main problem is she needs flag + 5300 hp

Her retro needs 2k hp

[elder crane]

Standard Vanguard in PvP is One flex spot with Juneau and Yukikaze

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

Latter two are too OP to not use minus a few very niche cases

[sharp wing]

check pins

[elder crane]

Once we get Azuma (probably in Dec), she locks down another slot
so unless you have very good reason not to, every team will go Azuma+Juneau+Yukikaze, lol

[sharp wing]

Well, it will take months till she gets into pvp

so by summer

[elder crane]

Also, 11 months of Namagi dominance in CN/JP now

Well, she starts making it in around dev20 already

which tbf is probably by summer

[sharp wing]

well, casual dev 20 still few months

by summer i mean dev 30

for real investing ppl

[elder crane]

Yeah, depending on how event luck goes, I might go 1 yr+ before I dev30 the DRs

[sharp wing]

Well, we missed so many DR bps

and they are like 5 per event

[vague token]

clearly the solution is whale more

jk

[sharp wing]

well, that's obvious solution to whale for resources for projects

But idk who will do it

[elder crane]

I do have 600+ cubes now

[sharp wing]

I'm more worried about 2 collabs back to back and my ever diminishing coobs stock

[elder crane]

So maybe if I don't get cucked in next few events

[sharp wing]

collabs are real cube yeeters

And i still need u-47

[elder crane]

Any news on the VR-stars thingy collab for EN?