pvp

[safe meteor]

yea, but you have to combine two diff collab

[sharp wing]

U can just put ark into Nep fleet

seamless transaction

[safe meteor]

why Ark?

there is no Rom and Ram for her

[sharp wing]

we need clear buttons for fleet and dorm

I think got some1 1 away from bonus again....

rank 126

Make us see ppl scores...

[sharp wing]

oh, we getting that new sub too...

[trim horizon]

60 runs again

[sharp wing]

Too bad that event only has purple sub non-homing torp and breadgun...

sp3 drops regular 553 torps...

at least sp3 drops purp plates this time

85 lvl

[zenith tundra]

and the boss fight is not a sucidal bitch

[sharp wing]

that was not an issue anyway

I got gold quads from Spee at least

and the sub is pretty meh, unless that random buff can be really op, she only has wolf pack and 1 on summon barrage

[zenith tundra]

u-110
When entering battle, provide a random buff to all KMS ships till the end of battle.
6 different buffs, each having 16.66% chance of procing:

1. 3% damage buff
2. reduce damage by 3%
3. Increase crit rate/damage by 3%
4. Buff evasion by 4%
5. Buff accuracy by 4%
6. Buff AA by 4%

[sharp wing]

Does it buff surface ships?

[vague token]

weird

[sharp wing]

She herself tied for lowest torp stat too and frail kms bote

[vague token]

it's like you took a bunch of cat buffs

[sharp wing]

sounds like Avrora

[vague token]

and said here, 16% chance to roll them all

but on a sub

[sharp wing]

buffs doesn't make up for brining useless bote

[vague token]

i mean, cat buffs work because they arent a useless bote

but you combine cat buffs + useless bote

big brain strat

[sharp wing]

and it should proc only 1 buff

1 of all those

[vague token]

then she's a worse yuubari xD

at least if you big rng

you can get all of the cat buffs

xD

[sharp wing]

I'm doing alt acc for returnee

got my bps

I mean same acc other server

4 bps for 2 hrs

not that bad

[vague token]

i just put the random uid thing

where it dumps you in the pool

[sharp wing]

i mean I do for my main acc

i'm at last point atm

got 4 bps

only ticket left

my guy died some way on the way

[vague token]

RIP

[sharp wing]

i got to -3 to the end anyway

did 2 w/ other server acc

dun care for ticket anyway

[vague token]

gotta rent the hiei skin with my tickets jk

[sharp wing]

i got 4 tickets

nitro refund

how many?

you should not have above 10

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

wdym

[vague token]

oh eww

=(

[sharp wing]

idk how it worked

you could play games for free?

lel

[vague token]

that's pretty lame of them lol

[sharp wing]

lol

[vague token]

oh, ch 11 research

how nice

since im grinding 11-2 for nepnod, formidable exp, and agano

xD

[sharp wing]

buy rings, pirate games, 200 IQ

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

hail scene

fucc repackers

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

i know

well, it's also the thing, if ppl have potato inet, odds are they have potato pcs too, and unpacking repack will take more time, than dling game, if it's something heavily packed, like fitgirl repacks

18+ hrs installing on potato pc

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Also dling torrent on potato pc also can have severe productivity issues

It's just a big mess when it comes to 🥔

And 🥔 + 🍝

[vague token]

that's forbidden

[sharp wing]

so Al is forbidden?

[vague token]

na, you pay gems so it becomes less potato

spaghet is eternal

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

throws potato

[vague token]

dont waste potatoes

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

dorm doesnt have a potato dish

[sharp wing]

throws XY Take some Foodie

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

i already lost a match last night during gw2, i no longer deserve foodie

max dishonor

juneau died last

lul

[trim horizon]

mikasa hairy legs

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

[trim horizon]

photoshop

[sharp wing]

Nah, i touched em

[midnight heron]

time to die in 12-4

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

i havent even cleared 12-3 lul

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

almost died

lucky s rank

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

having no cv = no bullet clear

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

I'm lvling lusty in 12

[midnight heron]

homing torp pls

[sharp wing]

You know what would be great? If they give you creds for each unused repair after map clear

[midnight heron]

lul

inb4 bring both repair ship for more bonus

[sharp wing]

ye

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

double AR runs

CUCC

[vague token]

it'd be better if the rewards for map clears scaled with difficulty

instead of 7-2 was the end all be all farm map

kek

[sharp wing]

rewards scale tho

[vague token]

yeah, but not enough

lol

[midnight heron]

only reward i know is xp

lul

[vague token]

the gold/oil is way worse later chapters

[midnight heron]

they dont increase rates for bp drop

[sharp wing]

I never farmed 7-2 idk what you talking

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

cursed image

[midnight heron]

tf is dat

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

12-4 boss

[midnight heron]

lulwat

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

so anyone here going or already spam 10 light (unless you still haven't got all event ship) for grandma quest?

[midnight heron]

y even spam 10

[finite valve]

?

[sharp wing]

i did it yesterday

it's 10 any build

not light

i did event build

[finite valve]

implying you going to spam non light build if you already got all event ship

[sharp wing]

why you ask then?

[finite valve]

which is my point LMFAO

[zenith tundra]

i'm spamming heavy because light has no new ship for me

[finite valve]

eh my question is did you spam light when you already got all event for the quest?

[midnight heron]

i spam special for subs

[finite valve]

if you already spam event for ships then that a non factor

lol

[sharp wing]

i spam what i need

[finite valve]

then why are you even talking in the first place lel

[sharp wing]

got all ships from heavy special

[zenith tundra]

i somehow still need spee....

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

gg.com

[midnight heron]

i need to (s)pee

[finite valve]

took me around 2 months to get aber

so gl lel

[zenith tundra]

jp did not have her event from when i started she was already in heavy

[sharp wing]

i got aber from events

[finite valve]

yeh her rerun was way past

same

[sharp wing]

cn got re-rerun of Spee

[finite valve]

out of 3 heavy event

only the last 1 give me 1 aber

[zenith tundra]

also she is the last ship i need from perma pools

[finite valve]

exactly 1 out of god know how many pulls

elite is the real SR not some fake gold color SR

[sharp wing]

elites make go to 0 cubes 2 events

and aurora took over 800 cubes

srs are just dailies

[zenith tundra]

depends on luck. i had more trouble with formidable then any elite ship

[sharp wing]

elites just have very low individual %

while SRs higher

[finite valve]

you mean the elite pool are too diluted?

[zenith tundra]

i build all lolis elites from jp light that i didn't have before swiftsure

[finite valve]

i start from light to special

[sharp wing]

now they will inflate pools with ex-event shipst oo

[zenith tundra]

that with rate up for swiftsure

[sharp wing]

at least they gradually remove campaign drop ships

but they remove mostly commons

after pool remake in summer they already removed BMs and some CVLs from light

[finite valve]

at least the only non EN ship for build is light

[sharp wing]

this event will be fun, cause I still miss 2 dds, while haviing all other ships before finishing yesterday 10x

[midnight heron]

hax

[sharp wing]

2 weeks of dailies

we will see

[finite valve]

got all built ship

so just daily light to save cubes

zzz

next event most likely CB rerun?

all those cubes for u 47

[sharp wing]

next is u-110 event

[finite valve]

LMFAO

mini event

i am talking about big event

[sharp wing]

it has SP stages

so no big event during it

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

next are DC rerun

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

then Amagi rerun

CE

but there some global events inbetween

[finite valve]

100+ cubes for u47

worth?

[sharp wing]

for?

well

sure

[midnight heron]

best sub waifu

[sharp wing]

Blasphemy

Surc best waifu

[midnight heron]

bonus points for not being loli

[sharp wing]

I spent more cubes on some useless elites, 100 cubes on u-47 is nothing

also there another elite sub in rerun

More interested in new ships on CE rerun, it will be global

[vague token]

im tempted to swap surcouf for u-81 now that i got her from wishing well

[finite valve]

what is CE?

[vague token]

for range and flood damage

xD

[finite valve]

biscuit event?

[sharp wing]

Crimson Echoes

Amagi event

[finite valve]

oh amagi

i 13

[sharp wing]

no

that's nagato

Amagi had no reruns yet

it will be Global

[finite valve]

oh these new ships and their event

[zenith tundra]

fw should be before oc and ce

[sharp wing]

FW was already rerun

[zenith tundra]

yeah but it was 1st run in en

[sharp wing]

still

[finite valve]

who know what they want to do with WC and FW

[sharp wing]

we got all ships

[zenith tundra]

jp needs rerun too for that event

[finite valve]

WC only EN got 1 run

[sharp wing]

jp and en got all stuff as CN

for FW

[finite valve]

FW only CN got 2 runs

so those 2 going to have different event time set if they decide to let every server have 2 runs

[zenith tundra]

u cannot build minne so it's not retired yet

[vague token]

kizuna rerun plz, i want a 2nd gold boiler and RWG xD

[sharp wing]

It will be when it enters archive

reruns doesn't add ships to build

[finite valve]

i am more interest in her gear skins tbh

[trim horizon]

I want my 1st RWG

[sharp wing]

same like Nanoda

[zenith tundra]

fw will have rerun for sure imo. if not it would've been retired by now in jp

[sharp wing]

will be 1st big event to have re-rerun

[finite valve]

dk what CN going to get when FW rerun in EN and JP

dead 2 weeks?

[sharp wing]

It just not happens

[finite valve]

ppl out rage and yostar put up another letter saying eh we don't care

[sharp wing]

Look a Foodie

Hiro time to rush after reset

yeet +9s for the greater good

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

ded resets on ded server

[trim horizon]

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

I will yeet u too

[midnight heron]

circle of life demands dat u become food too

[sharp wing]

Someday, someday

I'm commanding Foodie Division from shadows

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

The day will come to lead it from the vanguard

[sharp wing]

Damn yandere at works

those ryuusseis, lul

[blazing scroll]

Commanding foodies to benefit you

Pvp is rigged

[midnight heron]

u rigged

[trim horizon]

I can't solo this quest on fate, is Hiei good for pvp ?

[sharp wing]

Troll Foodie are not tasty

i probs save Kongous for Azuma farm

[sharp wing]

[golden fable]

[vague token]

gimme

[sharp wing]

I'll gib for 120% price

[vague token]

i can afford that

xD

[sharp wing]

richboi

[still minnow]

I just beat a 14k/13k rated fleet using an 11k/10k rated fleet

boi

btw what's up with this ryuusei targetting change

I have bataan and formidable

bataan with ryuseis sync to the stun

she keeps tagretting the backline

instead of the vanguard

and didn't used to do this

[sharp wing]

That's rather controversial what other ppl experience

They basically made planes to lock on target from further

[still minnow]

why is that controversial? are other ppl having the opposite?

[sharp wing]

well, apparently, since planes lock on and drop torpedoes earlier, they seem to lock on vg more often now

[elder crane]

I swear though that in PvE, it's just gotten worse, the issue of torps sometimes not triggering
🍝

[sharp wing]

well, when i was doing triple cv, that was really bad, formie not launching barrage, some ryuu launching torps backwards

cause target was busy before 1st torps hit

target banks

Finally got decent Edelweiss

Time to make that ASR+1

[sharp wing]

Junie tank...

[hoary pasture]

Hi im 2 weeks new, how 2 pvp?

[sharp wing]

Kill opponent's ships

Well, to really get into pvp u need at least 110 lvl + fleet

[hoary pasture]

damn so im several months away

[sharp wing]

well, u can still do pvp vs some ppl of yr state of game

but u won't get up high in ranks

[hoary pasture]

no there is no one who is of my state of the game on the list of available opponent thingies

[karmic forum]

generally you'd want to attack the person on the left-most position

[sharp wing]

u can refresh list 5 times a day

[hoary pasture]

yeah no

even with refresh they rarely show up

[sharp wing]

if u lose u still get exp

[karmic forum]

But as a new player just focus on battles that you can win or if thats not an option, then pick the player with the highest leveled ships to get the most exp (even if you'll lose)

[hoary pasture]

it's like everyone has 14k main and vanguard

[sharp wing]

just don't get seasonal score

[hoary pasture]

how do i fight this?

[sharp wing]

U need 120 fleets to fight those really

[hoary pasture]

damn that is a tragedy

[sharp wing]

lvls is one of most important things

each lvl difference makes u receive 2% more damage and deal 2% less damage + accuracy/evasion penalties/buffs

[hoary pasture]

ive been resorting to shitty RNG procs to beat overleveled people

since i have no opponents of my level anymore

[sharp wing]

U need to forget about serious pvp for now and focus on pve fleets anyway

[hoary pasture]

[sharp wing]

then use in pvp whatever highest lvl pve botes u have, later on u can lvl pvp fleet

it takes time

there no new servers

[elder crane]

and also the PvP HP multiplier

0.9+0.012*level

[sharp wing]

well, u can read on all that in pins

[hoary pasture]

im not even aiming for high ranks yet since i know that that's not achievable until i have 120 boats

i just want my rear admiral

[sharp wing]

hope for some meme fleets

[hoary pasture]

ive only faced against 1 meme fleet as of the past 24 hours

[sharp wing]

this pvp is not ladder, so u can find a lot of weak/meme defenses

[elder crane]

Also, if you're starting off, fight rightmost and only go down to 5/10 unless you can't play for two resets, if you want merit (i.e. to win more)
makes it much less likely you see harder fleets

[hoary pasture]

o

ive been playing for the full whenever it comes up to 0/10

[elder crane]

Yeah, defense fleet doesn't really affect your own ranking, so many ppl just put up whatever

[sharp wing]

well, if u keep tickets closer to end of reset odds are u face weaker opponents

after refresh/battle

[hoary pasture]

end of reset?

[sharp wing]

there 3 resets each day, each gives 5 tickets

[hoary pasture]

ah ok and theyre same as the supply shop reset times?

[sharp wing]

yes

as basic store

u can see timer in pvp

[hoary pasture]

so wait.... i dont battle until a reset is about to happen?

[elder crane]

basically what I said minimizes the rank points you're at relative to everyone else
since wins give more merit, and the higher you rank, the harder defense fleets you'll find
if you can already win almost all, then fight leftmost, but keep doing the 5/10

[sharp wing]

well, u need time to defeat enemies

so like 1 hr before reset

[elder crane]

That's the way to face the easiest enemies, yeah

let your ranking fall as people pass you

[hoary pasture]

but then i cant get rear admiral

[karmic forum]

Real sandbaggers start their exercises with 5 minutes left to go.

[elder crane]

you can get it if you don't lose, still

[sharp wing]

that's not how it works

u rank based on seasonal score

if u rush and lose u won't get it anyway

[elder crane]

and in any case there's more merit in winning more than ranking up
so the first is more important

and that too, yeah

most important is to not lose matches
then you worry about gaining more ranking points per match

[sharp wing]

now yr job is to lvl ships and care about yr pve progression

pvp is like... endgame thing when u have nothing else to do

[hoary pasture]

i thought pvp was the BIIIG content

[sharp wing]

lel

it's not even real "pvp"

just a fight vs sleep and clock

[karmic forum]

Theres a reason why most people tend to ignore PvP after claiming their SSRs

[elder crane]

Yeah, PvP in AL is mostly a joke
that devs have mostly forgotten about

you can still take it somewhat seriously if you want

and there's some of us who do for the fun of it

[sharp wing]

it mostly to farm Merits, to buy purins from merit store

[karmic forum]

I used to take PvP pretty seriously because it was fun to theorycraft new compositions

Now its just use Namaryuu and win

[hoary pasture]

i thought i should be saving merit for SD

[karmic forum]

No room for experimentation

When the best PvP comp has been figured out and will likely stay that way for a long, long time

[sharp wing]

sd is pretty useless at this time if u want to save dock space

[hoary pasture]

namaryuu?

[sharp wing]

actually KFC is pretty decent

[hoary pasture]

is that amagi nagato stuff i keep seeing?

[karmic forum]

Nagato/Amagi/Hiryuu + Flex Spot/Juneau/Yukikaze

[sharp wing]

yes

[hoary pasture]

why is that comp good

[sharp wing]

because it's failsafe

and a lot of synergy

hyryuu will make sure u are not wiped

[karmic forum]

Synergy heavy, hiryuu's ability is very annoying, nagato and amagi are just good in general.

[sharp wing]

even if all other botes die

[karmic forum]

The vanguard features the best defensive ships in juneau and yukikaze

[hoary pasture]

im seeing like every player in ranked 20 and up play that comp, is it possible to climb r1 spot without using it?

[sharp wing]

only ranking that matters is last reset of season

[karmic forum]

It is, but getting rank 1 is pretty trivial if you have a good fleet

[sharp wing]

and u don't even need full 120 meta fleet

on offense i always have 1 main and 1 vg lvling

most rushers u will see top 100 middle of season are likely to be foxes and torpmemes

also half of what u see ppl don't actually use on offense

[karmic forum]

There are still quite alot of nakaga users around

[sharp wing]

well any of 2 foxes comps

EN ppl just too lazy

and rushers are... rushers

[hoary pasture]

is there a general way to beat battleship heavy teams?

[karmic forum]

Boilers on your vanguard

[hoary pasture]

?

[karmic forum]

increases speed

If they're shells physically miss your vanguard, they deal 0 damage

[hoary pasture]

right but wont my backline be killed if im running mostly carriers?

[sharp wing]

u need pad yr main fleet w/ eva/heavy armor

[karmic forum]

Assuming equal levels, your backline should be fine

[sharp wing]

carriers basically use 1 eva item for solo, some carriers have heavy armor too

[karmic forum]

The first shell of BBs will always target the vanguard. Targeting is random after that.

[sharp wing]

foxes don't care about survivability tho, cause it's all about speed

[hoary pasture]

im not gonna use foxes

[sharp wing]

That's not true

[hoary pasture]

also it sounds like im honestly just getting dumpstered because of lvl differences?

[sharp wing]

BBs doesn't always target vg on 1st shot lol

[karmic forum]

Oh my bad

Level difference and gear difference probably

Mostly level difference

[sharp wing]

well, as i explained already how mu8ch lvl diff influence yr received/dealt damage...

it's one of main factors

having 120 not meta comp better, than underlvled meta comp

[hoary pasture]

is 20 level difference huge?

[meager dawn]

huge

[karmic forum]

Yeah its yuuuuge

[dusk stirrup]

[sharp wing]

40% less damage dealt and 40% more damage taken

lol

[meager dawn]

might as well go for a weaker enemy

[elder crane]

and 4% hitrate and evarate, and ~10% less HP from PvP's HP multiplier

[hoary pasture]

yikes

[elder crane]

even ignoring stat differences, your ships will be like 1/2 of theirs

[hoary pasture]

cause ive been throwing lvl 90 to lvl 100 ships against 14k fleet people

and it isnt working

[elder crane]

even just being down 10 levels makes fights very hard

[sharp wing]

well, offense also gets 20% damage reduction buff

[elder crane]

relative to how tough they're supposed to be at level parity

[sharp wing]

on offense u take 0.8 of damage

[hoary pasture]

wait so these people are actually potentially very easy to beat but i have no idea because i havent been fighting people with any less than 10 levels above me for the past week?

[sharp wing]

so few lvls diff u still pretty equal

[hoary pasture]

that is a tragedy

[sharp wing]

well, that still depends on comp, when it comes to parity in lvls

or taking offense buff into account

[hoary pasture]

uhhh i dont really have much of a comp lol

[meager dawn]

[hoary pasture]

2 weeks in i dont really get a say in what ships i can use and have for building comps

[sharp wing]

lol

[sharp wing]

lol

[karmic forum]

Well gear choice used to be a lot more important in the akaga meta

[sharp wing]

is rthat game-help?

[meager dawn]

#al-general

[sharp wing]

well de-general

[hoary pasture]

wait level difference doesnt matter?

[meager dawn]

no, they're just

[sharp wing]

U should pity those ppl

[meager dawn]

Just realized the 1st one is in the context of pve and stuff

[elder crane]

Let's put it this way
being just 5 levels down roughly turns a 80+% winrate situation to a coinflip at best
sooooo......

[meager dawn]

I think I'm the now

[sharp wing]

well

[hoary pasture]

no me

[elder crane]

lol PvE level difference is huuuge
being 10 levels above map makes it easy, 20 makes it trivial

[sharp wing]

in pvp still more important

[karmic forum]

inb4 someone links to the combat page in the wiki

(but really all of the relevant information is there)

[hoary pasture]

does pvp exp work the same way normal exp does in terms of like the bonus for mvp and flagship and so forth?

[elder crane]

Yep on the bonuses

[sharp wing]

ye

[elder crane]

The XP you get is scaled off the sum of enemy levels

[meager dawn]

How does formi's dmg reduction stack with s dmg reduction?

[elder crane]

with 50% penalty if you lose

[karmic forum]

I think it ignores mood bonuses

[elder crane]

no idea
and it really doesn't matter, given both are small %

[sharp wing]

i lvled few comps purely from pvp

[elder crane]

84.64% if multiplicative vs 84% if additive
not a big deal, <1% difference

[sharp wing]

[karmic forum]

Formidable has the chance of breaking open the PvP meta

[sharp wing]

nah

[karmic forum]

But the support for that comp isn't there yet

[sharp wing]

that comp is decent

[elder crane]

well, she did push her and Cent combo to high tiers

[sharp wing]

but not that high wr as cancer

[elder crane]

but given what we know is coming ship-wise, she'll fall out of favor very soon

WSret then Azuma+FdG

[karmic forum]

True

Its pretty hard to see anything topping the CN/JP meta comp

Maybe when PR3 hits

[sharp wing]

something can come up for main 3rd slot

[meager dawn]

PR3 with a CV that has a preloaded airstrike

[sharp wing]

but not for vg

[meager dawn]

[karmic forum]

Beating powercreep with more powercreep

[meager dawn]

retrofit PR1 ships

or is that too much powercreep

[sharp wing]

fatesim all we get

[hoary pasture]

is fdg good?

[sharp wing]

it's a wall

[karmic forum]

yeah shes ok

[meager dawn]

she tanky

[karmic forum]

fdg is alright

[hoary pasture]

i looked at her abils and it doesnt seem unique just like really high numbers

[elder crane]

yeah, you'll need quite a few more ships to push out Namazuma ykkz
they'll take the best other VG and best other main fleet ship into the team and call it a day, so it can't just be 1-2 OP ships

[sharp wing]

and her barrage pressure is fine too

[karmic forum]

[sharp wing]

she has very high eHP

[elder crane]

FdG doesn't die and hits hard, basically

[sharp wing]

was it over 27k?

[karmic forum]

I'm theorizing that eventually

They'll release so many broken ships

That the best comp would be to disregard synergy and just run the broken stuff

[elder crane]

With Azuma being a 2nd autoinclude IJN vanguard, Hiryuu's spot open ups now

[vague token]

10k base

on fdg

[sharp wing]

ehp in pvp

[hoary pasture]

wont they release more broken synergy though?

[elder crane]

hence why the top two are NamaFdG and Namagi457WSret

[sharp wing]

not base

who knows

[karmic forum]

Perhaps

[sharp wing]

need to see Iowa

and Alaskas

[elder crane]

Also, we need to figure out a good nickname for those two teams

[karmic forum]

FDG and WSkai were supposed to make KMS and HMS great again but they ended up getting absorbed into IJN

[sharp wing]

Team Albedo

[vague token]

i mean, it follows that ehp is gonna be around 25k to 27k cause evasion and PvP rules xD

[elder crane]

Yeah, it's the issue I pointed out above

if you just release 1-2 broken individual ships, IJN just absorbs them

[sharp wing]

FDG cannot make something good alone

there nothing to support it

[elder crane]

Like KMS is pretty decent fleet now in JP/CN
rivals Nakaga in power level
just wayyy too late

[karmic forum]

Nakaga is the equivalent of a dead horse in JP/CN

[vague token]

im pretty sure if fdg had no attack skills she could be used cause lol tank

[meager dawn]

what's the kms fleet

[elder crane]

The KMS synergies are just not broken enough

[karmic forum]

Everything beats it now

[sharp wing]

same for EN

[karmic forum]

KMS lacks the vanguard

[elder crane]

Bis/FdG/GZ/Roon/Leip/Juneau and various substitutions

[vague token]

biscuit buffs rng instead of reliability reeee

why crit rate

=(

it also doesnt buff barrages

[meager dawn]

Good KMS carriers to abuse that 20% dmg boost from bisko when

[karmic forum]

Well at least you can build an HMS and KMS comp and not feel bad about it

USS is just a sad state of affairs

[daring fractal]

ww3 when they actually finish building a carrier

[sharp wing]

hms is most decent after cancer

kms is nowhere

[karmic forum]

But thats to be expected without a flagship

[elder crane]

KMS is still third or so

[sharp wing]

can't put KMS and HMS in same spot

[elder crane]

roughly speaking

[hoary pasture]

is monarch viable in pvp HMS fleets?

[karmic forum]

KMS has something that works, USS is still stuck on WASD

[elder crane]

USN is bottom of the barrel now though

[sharp wing]

usn is about carriers

not wasd now

[vague token]

see, eagle is better when main is other faction

[karmic forum]

Yeah shes pretty good but you don't see her as often because she doesn't fit in IJN

[elder crane]

Monarch is fairly good, yeah

[vague token]

just use eagle vg

then essex, then 2 of whoever

[sharp wing]

eagle vg

[karmic forum]

Juneau will be in relevant PvP comps until the end of time so theres that

[vague token]

far superior to any eagle main

[meager dawn]

Juneau sandy balti?

[elder crane]

CVs are just shit with how mechanics work out (in general tbh and especially in PvP)

[sharp wing]

cvs need 3rd line

[elder crane]

Stupid AA dred scaling

[sharp wing]

[karmic forum]

Its simple

[vague token]

if only the fast planes didnt gimp your damage

[karmic forum]

Just introduce air superiority in PvP

[meager dawn]

age of carriers -Nagato

[vague token]

meanwhile 381 is fast and doesnt gimp your damage

hpfcr far superior to beacon

[karmic forum]

More like age of forcing carriers down our throats with an annoying mechanic

[elder crane]

381 is waaayyy faster than the fastest planes
and doesn't gimp damage, lol

[vague token]

gives much needed hit

imagine if beacon was 35 hit

[sharp wing]

And we never get FW rerun

[vague token]

15% first air strike only

[meager dawn]

Twin 381mm?

[sharp wing]

381 kai

[karmic forum]

I sincerely hope they add the Pirate Squad and the Gold FCR to research

[elder crane]

like the fastest planes are like herp derp, ~15% faster but now I do nothing!
and 381 is like, I'm 40% faster and still do half the damage!

[meager dawn]

what about the triple 381mm

[sharp wing]

they didn't add Mle to researrch

[karmic forum]

If we're not getting a FW rerun we at least deserve that much

[elder crane]

Triple 381 is a reskinned mk6 basically

[sharp wing]

FW was rerun already

[vague token]

also the margin for barrage damage is larger

[karmic forum]

Not on EN

We got the rerun version though

[sharp wing]

EN got rerun

same as JP

[meager dawn]

who do you even use it the triple 381 on

[karmic forum]

Which is why people are worried that we might not get it again

[sharp wing]

rerun version was global

[vague token]

hpfcr to core data maybe

[sharp wing]

I said it long ago we not getting it, lol

[karmic forum]

Dork for barrage timings

[elder crane]

Trip381 to slightly offset BB firing, and/or when the ship has a fairly good barrage but it's timed or you want to focus on main gun damage

[karmic forum]

Monitors for the fp I suppose

[sharp wing]

381 is for low fp botes and for timed barrages

[karmic forum]

Its an option thats about equal to the MK6

[elder crane]

It's also good for on-firing barragers if you want to focus on gun damage instead of barrage

[vague token]

twin 381mm should have been blue like mikasa gun

[meager dawn]

so botes like washy and alabama and hood?

[vague token]

so you get less stats but fast fire

xD

[sharp wing]

hood is twin 381

[karmic forum]

No they prefer the MK6

[sharp wing]

wash is triple 381 ye

wash in nutshell

[vague token]

if only i had extra mles

=/

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

[elder crane]

Well, again, even for the really good barragers, if you want to instead focus on main gun damage, you can run triple381 (e.g. especially on Monarch)
or if your ship has a meh barrage (like Bisko)

[vague token]

biscuit is gun focused anyways

with her skill

[karmic forum]

If you wanted more 138s you should have farmed harder

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

biscuit barrage so meh u run 406

farm harder
60k score 1 gun

[vague token]

if biscuit buffed barrage crit rate

then maybe you could have fun

just maybe

[karmic forum]

Agito farmed over 200k that event for example

[meager dawn]

I don't have that kind of oil

[sharp wing]

lel, that's some neet

[vague token]

dear god

xD

[empty grove]

I 100% didn't farm that

[sharp wing]

Look me in the eyes

[vague token]

[empty grove]

[meager dawn]

[karmic forum]

People save months of oil to blow it away at D2 in that french event

[sharp wing]

They should just put Mle in projects

[vague token]

mle in core data

[sharp wing]

can't blow oil if u dun have time

[karmic forum]

Hopefully they do

[vague token]

everything in core data kthx

hpfcr? core data

[empty grove]

On the rerun I shouldn't need anymore

[meager dawn]

I remember hearing somewhere that PR2 has 138.6mm

was that false

[sharp wing]

no

[karmic forum]

no

[sharp wing]

u got trolled

[meager dawn]

[vague token]

where is my ap dive bomber

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

reee

[sharp wing]

memery

Where is my 1600 seaplane

Nyaga rerun

[empty grove]

[vague token]

or give us a torpedo that does less damage but slows

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

like white heart skill

xD

[sharp wing]

Just give K.O torpedoes

[meager dawn]

torps that burns ships like HE when

[sharp wing]

nah, floods

any torp hit has chance to inflict flood

[vague token]

eww chance?

[sharp wing]

U want 100% or what

[vague token]

818 is 100%

[sharp wing]

slow not flood tho

[vague token]

and? just leave it 100% xD

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

give it like 50 base damage

[sharp wing]

if special torp

but not any

[trim horizon]

Can't sleep properly even when rushing

[sharp wing]

I'm talking about any

[trim horizon]

Trained dog

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

Good Foodie

list is ded anyway

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

can't make it alive anyway if only top1 can give bonus

[trim horizon]

Try to find me

[sharp wing]

wait, already top 16 can give bonus

ded server

Had Hiro 2 times on list and he no rush

Bad Foodie

[trim horizon]

He sleep

[vague token]

oof

[trim horizon]

They should add Leip kai w/ the sub

Best moment to do it

[sharp wing]

too early

we didn't even get |Yuubari yet

and she was 2 months earlier

leip comes w/ Z1 too

[trim horizon]

It's not like we're following a schedule

[sharp wing]

We didn't even get ws...

and ws was half year earlier

[karmic forum]

Wasn't ws hinted for november?

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

ws should be already here

it was next month after dragons

[trim horizon]

Before Hiryuu

[sharp wing]

nah, next month

after deragons

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

december were dragons, January ws

yuubari april

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

and kms on cn anniv

[trim horizon]

Is hiei gud

[sharp wing]

FGO is shit

[trim horizon]

and so is Mikasa

[sharp wing]

[meager dawn]

GO EAT SHIT MIKASA

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

They know

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

If she ever get that retro,limited item it l'd be Akashi poo poo for sure

[sharp wing]

U not getting it

[trim horizon]

Im not getting normal Mikasa

[empty grove]

Mikasa is a shit

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Haters.

[empty grove]

So cube hungry for someone so old

[sharp wing]

She came to me from get go

same as hiei

[empty grove]

I had all of them in 2 10s

Minus her ofc

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

I done less than 2 10s

missing 2 dds tho

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

only do dailies and 10x for Mikasa flag

[empty grove]

I hit right into my build average of 240-300

[sharp wing]

got all but 2 dds

w/ 4 Hamakazes...

[empty grove]

I had a ton of the DDs

[finite valve]

Not like it matter to a whale lol

[empty grove]

2 Kuroshio

[finite valve]

Drink money like water

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

It matters when I play other games

[sharp wing]

Imagine whaling on sidegame

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

Still better, than whaling on FGO

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

are those gear ok for Jun ?

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

Smart

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

double boiler juneau for me xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

zoom

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

sorry xy i got mikasa just now

you can hate her by yourself now

[trim horizon]

you traitor

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

mikasa best granny

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

This granny full of life

[trim horizon]

see her retro dealing 50% dmg more against HMS

[empty grove]

She looks like her knees are about to give out

[trim horizon]

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

Princess carry her

[empty grove]

I'll drag her behind me

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

ima set her up for insurance

then let accident happen

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Princess carry!

[trim horizon]

not for Shitkasa

you are what you eat

[sharp wing]

Ya'll uncultured plebs

[empty grove]

I'd carry Dland tho

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

i'd carry dsland into 🚮

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

Sorry

[trim horizon]

||they should add Favorite system in support list or show the most used one I've been refreshing it for 15 minutes now ||

[empty grove]

Mikasa filled that up

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

all good whales I have are JP peeps and they

[sharp wing]

FGO is not solo game

[empty grove]

Why are they asleep at like 12pm

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

hey, i usually sleep at that time

[trim horizon]

neets

probably

[empty grove]

[trim horizon]

dead list again

should I remove the 1st guy ?

🙈

he logs but doesn't do interlude

[empty grove]

Does he have shit you use

Or is he just a daily logger

[trim horizon]

FP slave tho

[vague token]

owo

[trim horizon]

I bet he doesn't have a lot of friends

I use Amakaga is this good ?

[vague token]

does amakaga use rudder?

[trim horizon]

gold cata and oil both

[finite valve]

I been using foxes since cancer was a thing

VG use Sirius +same old

Either win fast or lose fast

Win rate maybe around 60+?

[coral wren]

You have 60% winrate?

[still minnow]

I'm not sure why since I'm not noticing a difference visually

but

I'm finding my fleet is way more effective after the torp bomber change

previously I would get walled around rank 2500

[coral wren]

what bomber change

[still minnow]

but now I'm getting into 1500 easily

[coral wren]

[still minnow]

where they changed the way torp bombers pick their targets

[coral wren]

Is there a combat update tht i missed

Oh?

[still minnow]

it's not a combat update just a small torp bomber targetting thing

[coral wren]

How does it work exactly

[still minnow]

don't know the details

the patchnote wasn't exactly very specific about it

[coral wren]

wait what server r u on? I never been walled before

i've been murdering peeps no matter what fleet they throw at me

[still minnow]

my fleet is lvl 110

I get walled by lvl 120 fleets usually

due to lvl difference

[coral wren]

Oh rip

Yeah the bonus damage must be hurting u

i got my fleet to lvl 120 thanks to tht enty /bisko event

Now im tryna max ibuki on w12

[still minnow]

lacking the right equips + equip enhancements too lol

just gotta keep grinding and it'll be able to kill stuff eventually I think

[coral wren]

dont u have oxytorps

Oh you're not running a torp meme

[still minnow]

no I wanted to figure out a nonmeta stuff

[coral wren]

you only do tht when you're maxed out

[still minnow]

really badly starved for enhancement parts lmao I am sad suruga is gone

[coral wren]

You cant experiment when you dont have a solid foundation

Like a good backline for example

[still minnow]

let me rephrase that

I refuse to use non-waifus

and this is the best I can do with what I have

[coral wren]

But meta ships are waifus

[still minnow]

no they aren't

[coral wren]

namagi

[still minnow]

amagi is faking it

[coral wren]

Ayaya belfap

[still minnow]

nagato is a loli therefore instant not waifu

[coral wren]

I mean belfap dont even need queen's buff

And she counters akaga

wym u cant waifu a loli

Are you perhaps

[still minnow]

unicorn is the only loli that I will waifu and she's like 16 anyway

[coral wren]

https://www.allthetests.com/relationship-tests-love-am-I-gay.php?katb=1080

[still minnow]

this is like the 3rd time you've posted that lmao

how frequently do you google whether you're gay

[coral wren]

It never gets old

Just like a good loli

whenever i watch an old spice commercial on yt

Those damn ads makes me question my sexuality

[still minnow]

you sound pretty gay

[coral wren]

Im not european

You rlly need a torp damage in tht team btw

And replace bataan w/ enty

you can pretty much climb to 1000 ez

[still minnow]

enty is shit waifu

[coral wren]

I gotta oath 3 more to make it perfect

[still minnow]

my goal is to make a top 500 pvp fleet from ships shown here

there are a couple that I don't have yet such as niizuki, north carolina, but I don't think they'd be better choices than what I'm currently using

[trim horizon]

you should look at win rate and consistency, ranking is the worst measurement you can use

[still minnow]

it's the only one that's relevant to me because it's what determines how much merit I get per battle

[trim horizon]

and so is winrate

[coral wren]

people who puts aurora in their defensive fleet has a special place in hell