pvp

[sharp wing]

junie boiler + bulge/2nd boiler/toolbox

pinned tierlist has gears

[ionic magnet]

everyone flexing their choukais

smh

[eternal bramble]

Yeah its in the list, but im looking for actual players opinion

[potent moth]

should i equip 2 Oxygen for Nanoda

[wispy hawk]

^ no

[still minnow]

the list is players' opinions

[sharp wing]

no

u should have 0 xys

[dusk stirrup]

[sharp wing]

unless u use buki

[still minnow]

if you're using ships from the tierlist, then you use auxes from the tierlist too

[potent moth]

Why?

[sharp wing]

dildo is meme equip

[ionic magnet]

you want ykkz to live as long as she can to tank shells/airstrikes

[eternal bramble]

What i meant is the players that i can talk with right now, you

[ionic magnet]

else your backline will get exposed and die real quick

[sharp wing]

vg is not for dealing damage, it's for screening backline

[eternal bramble]

Who should have priority on torps?

[potent moth]

How about 1 Oxygen + 1 RepairTool?

[ionic magnet]

torps as in oxytorps?

[wispy hawk]

oxytorps for pve only

dont use it in pvp

[sharp wing]

nanoda needs FE

[ionic magnet]

ibuki is the only exception

[sharp wing]

and then more hp boost

[eternal bramble]

Actual mag torps

[potent moth]

What is FE?

[sharp wing]

fire extinguisher

[ionic magnet]

for mag torps you want everyone to hold one

[sharp wing]

nanoda priority on torps

bel second

jun last

[eternal bramble]

Quint or quad?

[wispy hawk]

quad mag

[sharp wing]

nanoda can use quint, rest quads

[ionic magnet]

either is fine

[sharp wing]

gold quints are garbo at all, t2 equip

low damage and long ass reload

gold quads are t3

[ionic magnet]

quad if you think they need the extra fire rate

quints are good for opening tho

[sharp wing]

they have superior damage

[ionic magnet]

and higher chance to hit ofc

[sharp wing]

quints will whiff half torps and the ones that don't, deal 2/3 damage

of quas

[ionic magnet]

eh not really 2/3

more like 4/5 maybe more

its not that different

[sharp wing]

they deal less damage than purple regular quints

it's different

[eternal bramble]

What gun should Yukikaze equip?

[wispy hawk]

76mm

[sharp wing]

100mm for aa protection

it gives her like what, 20% eHp vs airstrikes

76mm is just pure barrage spam w/ no defense bonus

[eternal bramble]

Good point

[sharp wing]

pve

[eternal bramble]

How about AA? Bel has Bofors, Yuki has STAAG, and Juneau has Roomba. Is it right?

[sharp wing]

yuki bofors

staag is backline and CAs

for accelerator purpose... it won't make you shoot 1 extra shot, so no point to reduce burst

even she has 75% eff

torp cas, like buki will like staag most too, cause missing that torp

sadly sanrui and alike don't have preload torps

Already finished

but has no place in my pvp comp

I dun sanrui

lvling helena enty atm

well, i got way too many bofors, to the point I stat pad fleet power

and u want more free

no i mean

swapping gear

at least swapping gear here is at 0 cost, unlike some games

imagine paying up each time u swap gear

E7 has that

well, card games is powercreep

Cute numbers, but mah exp

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

lol, i just remembered i still got anniv invitation in inventory

gonna save for warkai

tho i got 20+ purins in dock

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

wanted to use on Sandy

but will most likely build her

her skill node still lcked

Also, how hilarious it might be, I got my 1st MLB Sandy only around after new year

Since September

lul

RNG

[ionic magnet]

ok just did some torp dmg tests cos i got curious
this is ykkz dmg (using diff torps) vs SL and jun

turns out its not even close to 4/5

quad dmg is just ~9% higher than quint

torp dmg variance is very tight too so thats not an issue

[sharp wing]

that is per torp?

[ionic magnet]

yea

[sharp wing]

or u summed all torps?

[ionic magnet]

just 1 torp

[sharp wing]

rainbow has same torp damage as quad, just get's ahead due to rainbow torp stat bonus

[ionic magnet]

i got more confused what to use now lul

[sharp wing]

well, the other question will bote make it to the second salvo if u use quad, if not

[ionic magnet]

but since im using jun lead and aurora, better to use quads i guess

yea

[sharp wing]

if they die before ~22 sec

[ionic magnet]

then rainbow quint on yuki

[sharp wing]

yukie rainbow for sure

cause cockroach lul

she does 3 salvos often

[ionic magnet]

they die before 2nd torp wave quite often yea (if i use quints)

[sharp wing]

and her huge reload makes up for quint reload

well, but if u sue quads, maybe they make it into second

more reliably

[ionic magnet]

1 nyaga barrage and its goodbye juneau

[sharp wing]

well, my Jun doesn't drop from 1 naga barrage usually

but that depends on opening torps too

[ionic magnet]

well thats only if my jun decided to stay in the middle and facetank the arrow thingy

[sharp wing]

also using Junie tank I kidna tend to think she changes vg move pattern

90% of time on opening torps they move to the top or bottom edge of field

while enemy vg tends to to go middle

[ionic magnet]

im still feeling good with lead jun on offense so shes staying there

[sharp wing]

well, same

just saying

about that thing personality affecting auto pattern

[ionic magnet]

yea prolly

more hidden mechanics

[sharp wing]

that's so spaghetti stuff

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

I bet devs themselves unsure/forgot how it works or what was it intended for

Or make Kizu ai thing work outside event, lul and add more items with auto behavior

[ionic magnet]

the kizuna thingy is circular pattern yea?

[sharp wing]

diamond

[ionic magnet]

how big was it

can it even dodge nyaga barrage

or its plain suicide

[sharp wing]

/
\ /

[ionic magnet]

i feel like it will make your vg die faster

kek

[sharp wing]

well, it will make yr vg not hesitate to run outside shelling and not come back into it and bombs

[meager dawn]

watch as your vg runs into amagi's barrage and nagato's barrage

[sharp wing]

it will be much better

[ionic magnet]

enemy AI will just adjust aim and you still get hit

[sharp wing]

amagi barrage has no vg pressure if she doesn't aim arcing shots at vg, and then fast running out will be most important

[ionic magnet]

rigged ai is rigged

[sharp wing]

well, they can adjust aim, but shells still travel

[ionic magnet]

yea i got mixed opinions about that

[sharp wing]

imagine Ai analyzing enemy movement pattern and shoot in advance

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

fixed pattern = get rekt

[meager dawn]

fixed pattern = consistent

[ionic magnet]

atleast its good for dodging ryuuseis i guess

unless your VGs still can stop any time they want

[sharp wing]

it's good to dodge anything shelling or bomb related

but barrages are barrages

[ionic magnet]

yea

nyaga to be exact

free hit

[sharp wing]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/d/da/Bullet_pattern_skill_11430.gif

fancy

the animation is a bit off

[ionic magnet]

first time i saw that pattern

i only know the flipped one

[sharp wing]

qeq

[elder crane]

Yeah there's some weird gaps in the big7 part

[midnight heron]

where to even look for barrage pattern lul

[sharp wing]

Well, it gives general idea

on wiki on barrage page there gifs links on each barrage

[meager dawn]

When did they add that

[sharp wing]

they don't have thumbnails tho cause lul

"hard to code"

[midnight heron]

yea i dont even know theres such page

[sharp wing]

Pleb.

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Barrage

cn one has barrage full data, but, lul. It's made in Image tables, can't tl

totally protected

[meager dawn]

Is it just me or does that big 7 sakura barrage gif look different compared to the one in game?

[sharp wing]

it's a bit different

but in general it's ok

This is full barrage data, gl reading it
http://wiki.joyme.com/blhx/全船全弹发射，专属弹幕，技能弹幕性能一览

[elder crane]

Tbh it's not too bad to read if you know roughly what you're looking for

[sharp wing]

yeah

i find some stuff there

but only due to unique characteristics

I actually can try running it through finereader and tl

[midnight heron]

u get data but no visualisation

[sharp wing]

ship pages have barrage gifs

on cn wiki

[midnight heron]

needa open so many tabs

[sharp wing]

but not player visualizations

and EN barrage has only total damage

to each armor type

no data

at least they started to separate barrage parts

like nagato has 2 barrage values there, for arrows and chevrons

[trim horizon]

21 days before CD shop refresh

reeee

[sharp wing]

What u want there?

[trim horizon]

100/150

carriers aux

[sharp wing]

Is it announced for next month somewhere lol?

[trim horizon]

no

[sharp wing]

OwO cubie in merit shop

176 cubies

How much costume boxes give, 20? or 50

20

[coral wren]

should i put that heavy armour on amagi or would it be too much of a meme

[sharp wing]

It works pretty decently vs enemy amagi or naga barrages

[trim horizon]

Go eat shit mikasa

[midnight heron]

no u

[sharp wing]

I actually thought they will leave Mikasa for last day and announce loli botes and hiei 1st

[vague token]

but the retro =(

what if they announce mikasa now and then on day before patch retro xD

[sharp wing]

EN not getting retro anytime soon

We need at least warkai 1st

warkai retro was next month after dragons kai on JP

[vague token]

ree

[sharp wing]

put yr pants back on

[vague token]

lul

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

ok then

[sharp wing]

:plane shooter

[midnight heron]

also how tf does enemy amagi deal 1k dmg to medium armour backline

when mine doesnt even hit 1k

normal shelling

[sharp wing]

that's like normal

[midnight heron]

its not tho

my amagi shells enemy hiryuu for 900

[sharp wing]

do u have hsfcr?

on her

[midnight heron]

well its my alt acc so no

[sharp wing]

That's yr answer

[midnight heron]

tf

dats only 30 fp

and 100 dmg diff

[sharp wing]

that's whole 30 fp

[midnight heron]

i dont believe 30 fp can make dis much diff tho

[sharp wing]

that's 150% of purple>gold gun bonus

[midnight heron]

the proportion dont add up

dats >10% dmg boost

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

and keep in mind we hav the so called defender bonus

which makes it more absurd

[ionic magnet]

eh 30 fp is nothing

[sharp wing]

maybe it was fcr amagi

[ionic magnet]

he's prolly using a diff gun

[midnight heron]

sry i mean offense bonus

lul

[vague token]

na some people using shell

you can see their crits

[ionic magnet]

not twin 381

[vague token]

;)

[sharp wing]

shell amagi

u got trolled

[midnight heron]

still pretty retarded tho

[ionic magnet]

prolly triple 381 or twin 410

[sharp wing]

it would shoot slower

[midnight heron]

definitely not triple

[ionic magnet]

so twin 410

[sharp wing]

did she shoot before you?

[ionic magnet]

just test i guess

[midnight heron]

well i cant know cuz u cant compare with and without fcr

[sharp wing]

did she tho?

[midnight heron]

cuz my alt dont hav it

obv she did

[sharp wing]

then it's 381 mst likely w/ hsfcr

410 would be 2 secs slower

[midnight heron]

then again i just realised wat i said was stupid

[sharp wing]

so she would shoot around same time

[midnight heron]

cuz im not using 4 ijn

lul

[sharp wing]

lol

[ionic magnet]

lol

[midnight heron]

still ridiculous tho

even if its sg/fcr + shell

[sharp wing]

410 would hit around 1200-1400

1200 w/ attaccer buff prolly

[midnight heron]

yea dat makes more sense

[sharp wing]

wasd with triple guns hit around that

[vague token]

[midnight heron]

not having 4 ijn AND fcr is rly making my comp difficult

[ionic magnet]

where's my foodies

[sharp wing]

yeah, regular amagi and nagato 381 dun hit my wasd even for 800 w/ shells even without amagi debuffs/buffs

[midnight heron]

also they were dealing like 735 burn

[sharp wing]

burn is just gun damage + fp

[vague token]

shell amagi/nagato ive seen burn for 800

[ionic magnet]

are you underlevelled

[vague token]

on my vg

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

big ouchies

[midnight heron]

namagi is 120

only enty 119

[ionic magnet]

mm

[ripe latch]

100+ lvl food

[sharp wing]

well, on off wasd hit 1200+, so on def around 1k

for 400+ guns

or w/ shells

and sub 400 guns

[midnight heron]

ppl push early

[sharp wing]

ded list

i had ded reset before too

i'm 1 tick down anyway

[midnight heron]

when ppl push early i can rush and forget

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

life of rusher

[trim horizon]

Hope Mikasa stay trash even after UR

Eat shita mikasa

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

Got chtonich in list hope he doesn't rush now

[vale juniper]

https://youtu.be/beB4M2p9UKM

[sharp wing]

why not

[trim horizon]

He going for +9/+8

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

Justcat gave me a+1 already

Need +2 per reset to reach phxf

[sharp wing]

eh, if i didn't miss tix

[vague token]

lul

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

even if i didnt eat losses trying to sneak exp

id still be ded

cause suruga event murdered all the rushers

xD

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

only 5 ppl rushed so far

[sharp wing]

gotta be lucky to get em on list

like that guy above

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

[trim horizon]

Ggot 4 cubes in a 2 hrs comm

[sharp wing]

i just finished 1200 cube comm

i got some 5 oil cube comm in urgent

[trim horizon]

Still

Eat shit mikasa

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

hater

[sharp wing]

I know u have no cubies for her u pleb

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

Gonna oath her just to rename it

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

just tried 12-1 and its nightmare fuel cuz my gud gear is on pvp

[trim horizon]

just use vestal and double aa radar

[vague token]

i should +10 another pr air radar

xD

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

Hiei skin

hgeh

[sharp wing]

Ni skins for ya

[trim horizon]

no money

FGO demanding too much

[sharp wing]

paying for that shit

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

lmao i rmb dis

[sharp wing]

wtf is that

delete

[midnight heron]

fanmade parody of some chinese drama

[coral wren]

think i could get to 2200 with 7 points spare and nobody on my server is over 2175

[sharp wing]

U can just wait few resets

[midnight heron]

u can just eat +9

[sharp wing]

I usually get gensui on Saturday 1st reset

[trim horizon]

I get gensui when I have my 5 minutes of glory

[coral wren]

i dont want to eat +9 +9 +8 +8

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

then wait

[coral wren]

or worse

[sharp wing]

nothing u can do

[coral wren]

im going for it wish me luck

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

wish u luck in getting +9

[coral wren]

damn

i reset 5 times and went down

[midnight heron]

1 of those girls isnt like the others

[coral wren]

instead of getitng someone higher

[midnight heron]

lul rip

[trim horizon]

what do you mean

Aurora is IJN

[midnight heron]

where my 4ijn amagi buff then

[trim horizon]

amagi is dead

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

ok one +9

[sharp wing]

So many cube comms, it's a sign

[trim horizon]

CE rerun only KagaBB in perma pool please

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

second +9

[sharp wing]

have 3 coob comms running

[coral wren]

actually gonna make it

[trim horizon]

next +8

can stop cube research too

[coral wren]

i have to take a +8 and a +6 to lose now

[trim horizon]

I need only HMS roach and Monarch bps now

[coral wren]

made it

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

got both in ~30

[trim horizon]

I voodoo you

for next banner

[coral wren]

sandy world 1st

[trim horizon]

delicious

[coral wren]

nobody else has the guts to play 4 pvps with only 6 points spare

[trim horizon]

keep the good work

[coral wren]

now blebs can climb on me to 2200

[ionic magnet]

wat rank 1 not even 2200

this season is so ded

[sharp wing]

Sandy more alive both event and pvp lul

[ionic magnet]

no thats sandy right?

the one in SS

avrora has 16 2200+ rn

which is still low

[trim horizon]

more food more chance to get 260x end season

[ionic magnet]

then why is it that only famine gets it everytime

[trim horizon]

uh he probably friended all peeps in avrora who does pvp and bribe them to do their tix whenever they get into his lobby

[sharp wing]

Only Fam can sleep 3 hrs a day and check game each 15 mins

and tbh many ppl who pvp in other games don't care about al pvp

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

fam also actually plays this game

as his main game lol

[sharp wing]

lol

[ionic magnet]

or maybe he's not human

[vague token]

maybe HE is the siren

[sharp wing]

Superior sentient entity

[vague token]

dun dun dun

[trim horizon]

he farmed 430 boxes on FGO during nerofest

[sharp wing]

no pain no gain

[silver root]

wtf

[vague token]

all the monitors with all the emulators active

[sharp wing]

and that's all manual

[vague token]

playing all the gachas on manual

at the same time

[sharp wing]

qeq

4 emus on pc 2 tablets and 2 phones

[ionic magnet]

yea he said he plays manual

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

so stressful

[vague token]

then he has to date a bunch of girls in order to release the trapped goddesses inside them

[sharp wing]

play with yr feet

[vague token]

waaaaaaaait

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

what was that manga, god only knows?

xD

that's fam

he'll also get isekai'd into no game no life world

and become the king

;)

[trim horizon]

he already got isekai'd into our world

[sharp wing]

He got isekai'd into real world

He aint belong there

[vague token]

[trim horizon]

centaur almost 100 aff

stats here I come

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

yeah thats sandy

its harder in sandy to reach 2200 than avrora nobody to sandbag off since its dead

i even sandbagged quite hard and could only reach 2203

[trim horizon]

define hard

[vague token]

xD

[coral wren]

being rank 10 with 5 attempts left

[vague token]

just sandy things

[trim horizon]

[coral wren]

also living in europe sucks move daily reset to eu time

had to go down to 0/10 to sleep

[still minnow]

I play pvp in every game that I play

and many of the games that I play are exclusively pvp

lmao

hey do any of you play planetside 2 btw

[trim horizon]

I think most of the peeps here have bad timezone for pvp

[vague token]

im pst but im a casual

xD

[ionic magnet]

just beat timezone with body clock

[trim horizon]

im trained to wake up in the middle of the night so im fine

[sharp wing]

planetside not gacha game

[trim horizon]

timezone is just a number

[ionic magnet]

[still minnow]

saggy do u or do u not play the not-gacha game

[vague token]

planetside 2 was neat but shotguns are weird compared to other shooters so i lost interest

[sharp wing]

saggy is inside yr pants

[still minnow]

I want to get into tryhard harrasser play

but none of my friends are into it

[trim horizon]

shotguns

[coral wren]

my friend sadly makes me play planetside 2

[still minnow]

hook me up with that friend and I'll make him sadly play harrasser

[coral wren]

he hates vehicles

also we play on tr

[still minnow]

what a dork

what dorks

[coral wren]

which means we suck at vehicles

[still minnow]

TR has some of the best vehicles tbf

[coral wren]

[still minnow]

and I find best vehicle drivers

[coral wren]

magriders most op shit

[still minnow]

have you ever actually driven a magrider

I never use my magrider and use my lightning as a main battle tank

[coral wren]

no but heshing from a rooftop is kinda broken

[trim horizon]

ｅａｔｓｈｉｔｍｉｋａｓａ

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

yeah they can get into some pretty autistic positions

[trim horizon]

[still minnow]

but once you're forced to do anything other than snipe at stuff

[trim horizon]

_ _

[coral wren]

careful that word can get you warned now

[still minnow]

their effectiveness falls apart

[trim horizon]

[still minnow]

I have a clinical autism diagnosis

[sharp wing]

I call mods on you

[still minnow]

I have literal papers

[trim horizon]

FREEHONGKONG

[still minnow]

it's my god-given right to call things autistic

[sharp wing]

REEEE

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

You will eat Mikasa's shit

[trim horizon]

you mean

[still minnow]

now if magriders could magburn backwards

then they would be pretty good

[trim horizon]

eating mikasa

ew

[sharp wing]

l00d

[trim horizon]

mikasa is shit so no need to eat her own shit

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

u are shite

[trim horizon]

im gonna bring her affection to 0 and use her as commissions slave

[sharp wing]

"Fakkyu"

No more

[trim horizon]

If the retro comes becfore she hits 70 then I'll save her

[sharp wing]

expecting retro on EN

U might quit before

[ionic magnet]

did you know that your nagato has same VA as hawk from nanatsu no taizai

yea hawk the pig

[trim horizon]

ye

[ionic magnet]

must feel good waifuing a pig

[sharp wing]

what is nanatsu no taizao

[trim horizon]

I waifu oath based on VA mostly

[sharp wing]

I play muted

[ionic magnet]

7 deadly sins

[sharp wing]

eww

who tf waifu lolies anyway

[ionic magnet]

yea i cant look at nagato the same way again

[vague token]

ill take minne/balti kthx

[trim horizon]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLbQ2FKmT-c||

look at her as a birb

look at her as a birb

[sharp wing]

cancer

[trim horizon]

_ _

[sharp wing]

Back to abusing masochist barely dressed nun healer w/ agoraphobia and photophobia in Mistover

[vague token]

o.O

[trim horizon]

wait San Juan doesn't have a voice yet

just give her Sandy VA

[vague token]

i forgot there even was a san juan

[vague token]

hmm yeah hyuuga 110/baltimore 120 on Evasion formation seems to never fail (or rarely) on sp3

if you use firepower the timing is off

[sharp wing]

my 70 boats dun fail

[still minnow]

@sharp wing wtf saggy

wtf is mistover lmao

[sharp wing]

Can you stop that pointless verbal abusing like a schoolkid?

[vague token]

gasp

1 quad bp

the legends were true

[trim horizon]

weapon is ready

almost

[still minnow]

I thought it was fucking hilarious

it's a verbal play on an alternative pronunication of your name

but I mean if you think it's stupid then I can just ignore you so you don't have to interact with my personality

[sharp wing]

That'd be great Cause I apparently don't find such things funny.

[finite valve]

so anyone here finish 1 mag?

[sharp wing]

I think it will take days w/ droprate

[vague token]

lol, 15 bps is gud joke ;)

i had 7 from before and i got 1 from around 25 runs

[elder crane]

I got 1 last time
and I did the whole, was it 40 or 60, runs for Spee

[vague token]

60 for 1 spee

i was at 59/60 when it ended

first time x_X

[zenith tundra]

why did u not do 60 instead?

[vague token]

i ran out of time

[split marten]

Heh, gensui rushed

I made it lads, am I cool now?

[elder crane]

Not even temp r1 🚮 (jkjk, congrats!)

[split marten]

I have 1 exercise left

But getting 9 points hurts my soul

Also lol you’re literally on all the AL servers I’m on xD

[shy hazel]

either he stalking u

or u stalking him

creepy

[zenith tundra]

4 attempts behind but still managed this

[coral wren]

What language is that

[shy hazel]

jp

[coral wren]

Whos tht girl beside juneau

Shes a qt

[shy hazel]

azuma

[coral wren]

She looks like taihoe w/ tht icon

Damn. She got sum big guns and tight AA

Another pr hell

[silver root]

azuma bestu waifu

[trim horizon]

free hong kong

[zenith tundra]

dr ships are another type oh hell. i got from dev 8 to 21 in 4 months

[coral wren]

Oh fug mikasa is coming

[still minnow]

azuma sitting on a big ol toilet

[midnight heron]

looks like i missed 1/2 matches

0/10

[vague token]

rip

[trim horizon]

you are no better than expired food then

[midnight heron]

[trim horizon]

subs gear in merit shop when

[trim horizon]

distance is not getting any shorter

[ionic magnet]

e a t s h i t

[dusk stirrup]

[coral wren]

if thats sandy then max will be 2300

[shy hazel]

i tot about that long time ago

[coral wren]

just nobody is using pvp

[shy hazel]

but it may irk some ppl

cos image heavy

[coral wren]

im 2200 with 10/10

[zenith tundra]

cn wiki has them. dunno how u would get them tho

[sharp wing]

there is chibi viewer anyway

there only 1 usually rtho

Or u just need chibi model?

I saw some archives with extracted

[ionic magnet]

its.. cute?

lol same

[sharp wing]

when season so ded, u get 3 +1 in a row

just by non stop battles

[blazing scroll]

I find the lack of freedom in the tierlist disturbing

👀

[sharp wing]

There no freedom for meta slaves

wdym

[blazing scroll]

Needs more Murica

[sharp wing]

yeah

My "Freedom" is in place

[ionic magnet]

well we need more ppl to update that thing tbh

[blazing scroll]

I can update it with my pvp team, but dunno what the tiering would be

I can still beat Namaryuu easily

[ionic magnet]

which comp?

[sharp wing]

like 90%? wr

[blazing scroll]

Amagi, Essex, Enty

[sharp wing]

U are almost like kiro

[blazing scroll]

Would need to keep track of the numbers

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

murica
amagi

[blazing scroll]

Amagi is to be replaced later on

As soon as Georgia comes

[sharp wing]

as soon as she deved...

[blazing scroll]

But there are no OP USS bbs for now

[sharp wing]

They are pretty op for Solo content

[ionic magnet]

do you test vs maxed namaryuus btw?

[blazing scroll]

Not in the pvp area

[sharp wing]

pvp needs sync not solo ships, that's why us loses

[blazing scroll]

I believe 14k+ main and 13.5k vg namaryuu counts right

[sharp wing]

ye

[ionic magnet]

and try to do like 10 fights so we can somehow see if its really good

[sharp wing]

13.5k vg is about good optimized

[ionic magnet]

14.3-14.5k backline

[blazing scroll]

It's not like I need the points, so I can search for some prey

[ionic magnet]

i have cay on my list maybe gonna do some vg test later also

[sharp wing]

I have Freedom def

[blazing scroll]

So much Nakaga prey tho

[ionic magnet]

yea thats the hard part of testing

you cant do it when you want

[blazing scroll]

Found this, but that sandy

[ionic magnet]

then when you get someone decent, you're either not in the mood anyways or just busy

[blazing scroll]

And lacks oaths

[sharp wing]

If u get me, i can setup proper def

[blazing scroll]

My rank is 🚮 tho

[sharp wing]

Rush

[ionic magnet]

[blazing scroll]

IRL consumes my tickets

[sharp wing]

well, ye

it's often other games for me too

[blazing scroll]

I'm doing some test against that comp in the ss I send, it's not what you would normally face, but Sandy does reduce the dmg of my cvs by quite a bit

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

It's annoying to not kill the enemy vg in the first airstrike

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EALjmSmqkgVz70m6rfImouYIEQqeiZRx/view?usp=sharing

This is the result of the 10 matches

That one loss actually surprised me

But then again Nagato's skill went off every time

I will update the doc as soon as I find another worthy opponent

[ionic magnet]

not bad

but yea need to find better prey

[blazing scroll]

But I don't think there will be a big difference, because the vg will be easier to wipe without Sandy

Juneau heal is useful in a longer fight but not when your vg gets wiped at once

[sharp wing]

Junie will heal vg back up, so not really

[ionic magnet]

well that guy doesnt have jun and shes definitely a game changer

[blazing scroll]

Also torp meme vg is an easy wipe too

[sharp wing]

the problem with def is that u can't tank JUnie

on off junie tank effectively prevents both vg and main wipes

but on deff it's

she will usually die after tank already ded

Junie offtank is hilarious at all

she can die last

and nanoda mid is

[blazing scroll]

Weird tho

I remember using Junie in 2nd spot and still be the first to die

[sharp wing]

well, i run her w/ bulge

[blazing scroll]

And that was in offense where she has 20% dmg reduc

[sharp wing]

in many weird situations junie tank still die too late to save vg, lol

[blazing scroll]

Junie can't dodge bb shots well because her luck is terrible but other ships have the stats to tank those

[sharp wing]

she is fine

and bb shots not problem w/ double boiler

[blazing scroll]

Than the AI must be 🚮 because they often just move back and forth

Not moving up and down

[sharp wing]

also i usually lvl 1 vg, so that allows that easily

[midnight heron]

how hard is 12-3 compared to 1 & 2

i heard horror stories lul

[sharp wing]

not that hard, just need good timing

[midnight heron]

just hope i dont die and waste my run

even in 12-2 my vg already got to low hp

cuz torp spam + bullet hell

[sharp wing]

1st you can wait till both waves of humanoid elites spawn together and wipe then all at once, then on bosses u need to avoid those grey planes that shoot autocannons at yr vg, need to move to bottom or top edge. And bosses themselves move up and down, so u can focus fire them, when they converge on mid

Well, chinawall curry me bosses at sub 108, so i have no issues

but i tried sub 115 other setups, portland and stuff, they didn't really work good

and use aa stance for this

[midnight heron]

i always use aa stance lul

[sharp wing]

12-4 has more vg pressure tho

there u can opt for def stance if ur vg dies

even

it's that much pressure

[midnight heron]

so much cancer

was using pvp vg

so >115

[sharp wing]

i lvled my pvp fleet on ch12 mobbing

[midnight heron]

guess its glhf

[sharp wing]

but my boss fleet used lvl 106-107 chinaball and sub 115 main

I used Lusty

[midnight heron]

well shield helps a lot

mine is just full bb lul

[sharp wing]

lusty shoots those planes down

6 fighters

reduce main pressure

but she was like 113

main takes heavy damage from crash

lusty low hp and heavy armor doesn't help w/ that

also if u run 3 bb setup, taking one AP gun good too

or even 2 ap and 1 he for fires

12-3 are those 2 cvls bosses and 12-4 maya and choukai

[midnight heron]

my only ap triple on my mob fleet lul

didnt upgrade others

[sharp wing]

u dun need that on mob fleet

move to boss fleet

[midnight heron]

im lazy to swap gear lul

[sharp wing]

U like to suffer

I think I also have only 1 maxed triple 410

I only crafted 1 at all, lol

have 95 bps tho...

[midnight heron]

yea i didnt wanna waste depot space

can prob craft 1 or 2 idk

[sharp wing]

i have 3 each ca guns tho....

crafted

since i run 2 bb only

no need more than 1

[midnight heron]

😮

[sharp wing]

doy w/ ap gun for big dicc

another one for fires

need autoloader tho on doy, lul

[midnight heron]

im using kgv

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

cuz lul lvling

[sharp wing]

well, me too

dork hit 120 before 200...

I hate when that happens

Trying to get Dragon to 200 like half year now, lol

well, more like 4 months

[midnight heron]

i havent even oath any so fk me

[sharp wing]

qeq

tbh i would be happy oath didn't increase aff lol

just give that 3% and that's it

or no bonus at all

[midnight heron]

yea but game wants u to grind

[sharp wing]

sidegame wants u to grind

no ty

Where is my full map auto function

[midnight heron]

when pigs fly

[sharp wing]

[valid stirrup]

yo yo

i wanna learn how to be more cancer in pvp, but i don't exactly have nagato/amagi

i read the EN pvp tierlist before, so hm

am in washington and this is my current defense+attack team, i am leveling hiryuu kai now tho. would hiryuu kai be better for defense than offense?

ykk seems pretty oof to get since i need purins, which is why i am even doing pvp: to get moar merit

maybe i should go level up juneau, and replace someone with...her? maybe portkai?

i dunno how effective sandy kai is

[sharp wing]

Foxes ( especially without nagato/amagi) are joke on def anyway, so u can't be cancer for anyone w/ actual team

[valid stirrup]

hm?

wait wut

[sharp wing]

jun will greatly increase yr wr on off

as well as nanoda

[trim horizon]

Portkai

[sharp wing]

How to kill Portland

[trim horizon]

portkai and roon

[sharp wing]

Foxes would work great w/ aurora/siri too

[valid stirrup]

welp too bad i don't have most event ships

[sharp wing]

jun aurora and nanoda are all perma

but not having naga or amagi for foxes is handicap ofc

u can flag hyryuu kai

[trim horizon]

and put armor

[sharp wing]

armor+beaver dragonkai

flag

200 IQ plays

only pray enemy dragon don't snipe u w/ ryuuseis

on def that would be like insta counter

But HiryuuKai flag looks more reliable flag, than Enty, cause Enty would eat all Amagi, Naga barrages and foxes airstrikes before Lucky E

[valid stirrup]

i see

[sharp wing]

Namagi 381 has sub 16 sec cooldowns w/ buff

And "Foxes launched 1st"

[valid stirrup]

jun gr8 for both offense and defense fleets?

[sharp wing]

well, mostly for off

but it can work pretty good def too

just need to put her in safe spot

Like on 120 I use Junie tank on off, but it won't work on def at all

on def i put her mid

Also off-tank Junie survives on def hilariously long sometimes, but making Nanoda mid

Death sentense

[valid stirrup]

i want to know who i should start phasing out

monty maybe, cuz her skill activates too late?

[sharp wing]

light armor ca

[valid stirrup]

isn't she a cl

[elder crane]

London first

[sharp wing]

I mean London Kai

[valid stirrup]

ah

[sharp wing]

light armor ca

[elder crane]

then Portland probably so you can actually dodge stuff

if you add in a DD though might not be too bad

[valid stirrup]

tru she just eats the shots. lonkai with...jun?

[sharp wing]

jun or nanoda what u get lvled and LBed 1st

[trim horizon]

she's papership

[sharp wing]

Since u lack Purins, Nanoda might take a while

So work on Junie

[elder crane]

for Vanguard in PvP either you go something tanky or go torps

[sharp wing]

she easy to farm

[valid stirrup]

i meant i don't straight up have ykk, and even if i do get ykk i can't afford her

[elder crane]

there's really no place for non-tanky DpS

[sharp wing]

Nanoda will be yr long term project

Inevitable still

It's cornerstone of good pvp team

[elder crane]

Pretty much every team runs ykkz
more than even Jun since torpteams exist, aside from that she's a bit less than Jun in priority

[sharp wing]

Nanoda works even on torpmemes, cause she has superior torps

[trim horizon]

nanoda and Jun

[elder crane]

Yes, that's why I said she's used more than Jun
since most torpteams drop Jun but not ykkz if they can help it

[valid stirrup]

how well does sandy kai fare?

[elder crane]

She's okay

[sharp wing]

Ok, nothing more

[elder crane]

if it was a CV meta she'd be great, but it isn't

and so, she's okay (above the vast majority of options but won't really be your final choice)

[blazing scroll]

I don't use ykkz

[sharp wing]

You are memer as Kiro

[blazing scroll]

If it works, I ain't complaining

[elder crane]

Pretty much the only reason to not use her is HMS, and that's still questionable

[sharp wing]

Kiro on Avrora, U on Sandy

Hell, I didn'r use Junie till cancer meta

[elder crane]

In CN/JP also in USNEssex and arguably KMS, but we don't yet have the options that displace her (Azuma, Leip retro)

[trim horizon]

fearless cheaper Kiro

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

bad quality Kiro too

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

[sharp wing]

He's a meme of Kiro

[blazing scroll]

While he was using his Enty, Essex, Sara. I was already using Amagi instead of Sara

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Well, Ya'll evolve

[trim horizon]

All I can say is

free hong kong and eat shit mikasa

[blazing scroll]

But I bet he doesn't use Sandy

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

[sharp wing]

U yeet shit

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

3.7

Pleb speed

[trim horizon]

eat shit mikasa

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

[sharp wing]

I voodoo u to never get Gorgeous Oni

[blazing scroll]

I finally found a worthy prey

[sharp wing]

Now we need some memer blood

[blazing scroll]

Will do some testing after dinner

Make Murica great again

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

[sharp wing]

gib unnerfed NC

wasdnc