pvp

[blazing scroll]

I'mI still a uni student

[trim horizon]

[blazing scroll]

But in the summer I can earn some good money

Or with an intership

Feelsbadman

There's plenty of work here for computer science students

It wouldn't be real 🍝 if it was

[hot creek]

doesnt seem so. the packets displays names in plain text

[blazing scroll]

[hot creek]

need the scores though

for full leaderboard analysis

[blazing scroll]

It isn't that hard to hash data

But

[hot creek]

then do it and tell me how it goes

[ionic magnet]

rusher squad

[trim horizon]

so refreshing switching out Sanrui for Aurora, just like putting on fresh underwear on new year's day

[hot creek]

fuck Aurora

she works for IJN

[trim horizon]

[charred sable]

When we get Aviation Gasoline in the future, will BIS be 1 Aviation Gasoline + 1 Drop Tank? Or something else (like 1 Improved Hydraulic Rudder + 1 Aviation Gasoline or whatnot)

@ionic magnet RIP. I thought I didn't miss any attacks this season but looks like I once again missed 5 at one point

[silver root]

CN runs homing beacon + avgas

[blazing scroll]

I'm using hydraulic + oil tank now

[ionic magnet]

yea thats 5 charges lost for sure

rip

[trim horizon]

fearless not even touching Gensui this season

[blazing scroll]

Once I slack off, I slack off really good

[trim horizon]

convert urself into food

[blazing scroll]

I'm not meant to be food

Instead I'm a guardian of the top 1k

[trim horizon]

u blocking potential bonus

[blazing scroll]

[velvet oracle]

So > Health in PvP is multiplied by 0.9 + 0.012 * level.

Is the +-2% damage reduction/done per level difference in PvE included in pvp as well?

[ionic magnet]

yes

[velvet oracle]

oh okay interesting

Also > Dual catapult setup works only against weak AA teams

so generally ijn and kms right?

[trim horizon]

dual cata might work if you have more than one CV

[velvet oracle]

yeah i read it in the tierlist

okay thank you

[ionic magnet]

not a fan of dual cata tbh

30 avi difference is nothing

[velvet oracle]

Me too, I'll keep it in mind when I do some testing

[ionic magnet]

yea the plane hp from oil tank can easily be the difference between your planes dying or not

[vague token]

eh, not really

planes have like 400+ hp

by default lol

unless someone is running sandy memes

[ionic magnet]

between enemy fighters intercepting and the normal AA

i almost always see 1-2 planes get shot down

and thats with already using oil tank

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

who needs cata when the only thing matters is kamikaze

[hot creek]

benson kai when

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

This maintenance is getting in the way of rushing

installing GF aint helping with the boredom

[still minnow]

why is it that every time I click on a maintainence special channel

my faith in humanity drops by a significant margin

ikr

[coral wren]

You still have faith in humanity?

Btw i never heard of that channel before

[still minnow]

I click on it, first thing I see

[coral wren]

Where is it exactly

[still minnow]

like wtf

and it's like this or worse every time XD

[coral wren]

I do dis on all servers

[still minnow]

okay you caught me, I wouldn't say that I have faith in humanity

but I would say that I have expectations that are not at rock bottom

[coral wren]

Never trust pings. Not even yourself

Man who thought he had lost all faith in humanity, still lost a little bit of faith he didn't know he still had

[still minnow]

holy shit

3:30 AM epiphany

I just realized why I like azur lane

[coral wren]

Cuz ur a weeb

[still minnow]

nope

I don't watch anime

[coral wren]

What

[still minnow]

I don't play any other anime games

it's just this

[coral wren]

i just installed gf and idk what the fuck im doing

Blew all my resources in 1 day

[still minnow]

IRL I've been searching for a virgin girl and I've been getting really frustrated about it, and in AL this game is literally the virgin girl fantasy turned into a game

now I need to figure out if that's a healthy reason to play the game or not thonkers

[coral wren]

Its healthy

Remember how in a certain religion, you're promised 72 virgins if you act in god's will? This game however gives u 300+ virgin ships by just playing it

[still minnow]

lmfao

[blazing scroll]

[steady heath]

🐐

[sharp wing]

Hmmm, does Retro become virgin again?

[midnight heron]

anyone knows if we get a new chat border for clearing the new challenge mode

dont wanna waste my time if there isnt lul

[sharp wing]

check if there is reward?

score reset

Should say Border and not Bubble tho, bubble supposed to be chat frame?

Or they call portrait bubble too

[midnight heron]

idk

also lul rip hav to do challenge again nuu

[sharp wing]

it's ez anyway

for that 8k

Will u dare this?

Savage

[midnight heron]

yes u will pay........... gems

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

tfw cant differentiate zeppy and zep

[sharp wing]

How can't u tell where is loli

[midnight heron]

cuz all chibis look like loli

dont @ me

[sharp wing]

[split marten]

WATASHI WA NANBA WAN

[midnight heron]

almost failed last stage lul

given i use my lvling pvp vg

and essex bullet hell is "lul how u supposed to dodge dis"

[sharp wing]

bullet hell is bad

i want to auto

[midnight heron]

at least its done now

[sharp wing]

I'll do it in December

[haughty flare]

tfw you have number 2 guy in the list of opponents

[trim horizon]

it's almost EoS so normal

[haughty flare]

end of service?

[trim horizon]

end of season

[midnight heron]

y i see ded sandy

[sharp wing]

She's just resting

[trim horizon]

Going to ring her for stats 🙏

[sharp wing]

Oh boi, Mikasa is coming

The War God is upon us

I forgot Spee also had build, so probably they didn't want to make double build

Also, Zeppy is the CV w/ 6 planes

[trim horizon]

Hiei skin

[sharp wing]

Hiei

alone too

we only got smoll one yet

[midnight heron]

hiei i just met u

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

anyway didnt they announce during anni mikasa was gonna be in oct

[sharp wing]

they didn't say anything for EN

they talked about retro

and I think we don't get retro

[finite valve]

how long is spee

1 week?

[sharp wing]

yes

next week mikasa apparently

[midnight heron]

didnt wanna do it but they repeated the clear + 3* rewards

kill meh

[sharp wing]

missions always repeat

I clear it with teme-chan

[trim horizon]

during a PSA they said Mikasa around october

[sharp wing]

These Rescue operation DDs tho...

And ijn FP skill DDs also cringe

[surreal locust]

will mikasa change the pvp meta

[trim horizon]

no reason to switch out Amagi /Nagato for Mikasa as FS

[surreal locust]

oh good, I wont get cucked for skipping this build event then

[trim horizon]

you should go for it there are rumours about a possible retro Mikasa

[surreal locust]

reeeee

[vague token]

i swapped amagi to triple 381/rudder/armor

it's pretty nice

[coral wren]

Is it worth using aurora? I just got her from wishing well but im not sure if its worth it anymore

Hmm

I see.. thx

[sharp wing]

aurora always good when nanoda exists

[coral wren]

Just missed the rush earlier

117 holy shit

Look at the power level

Hes memeing with it

ima get my numba wan in 3 hrs

Nice

[trim horizon]

guess it's time to oath QE

[vague token]

honestly im not sure aurora is necessary for formidable + other cv comp when you arent using kgv

when ykk cant move out of bombs and torpedos she gets nuked hard

[blazing scroll]

[trim horizon]

http://prntscr.com/phk3ka

[sharp wing]

New dorm +7 comfort

[midnight heron]

tfw forgot

[sharp wing]

lmao, 150 gem item +2 comfort

that's unholy

still got like +100 exp/hr

[trim horizon]

+7 ?

[sharp wing]

well, was +7 for me

[trim horizon]

+18

[sharp wing]

i dun buy gem furnitures

wow, pleb

[trim horizon]

I dun't buy furniture

at all

[sharp wing]

Pleb

[trim horizon]

they don't deserve comfort

they food

[sharp wing]

Unworthy

[vague token]

+12 for me

[trim horizon]

A fellow farmer

[vague token]

5k dorm coins left

[sharp wing]

I want that 2k18 summer dorm

[midnight heron]

wow dis some exp shit

[sharp wing]

there just 10 of em

and some 400 dorm tokens ain't exp

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

i bought all and got 437 tokens left + previous limited set

[midnight heron]

i only hav 830 token left

and i still havent bought out the normal furn

[sharp wing]

did u buy previous set?

[midnight heron]

ofc

[sharp wing]

i don't buy non event sets, they give no bonus

only got this

tho there should be more

wait...

shop only shows permas

[midnight heron]

still waiting for the day i can buy everything

[sharp wing]

well, i got... 24 sets

only missing that summer 2k18 set

and most of regular sets

like faction sets

for some reason that set is perma on cn and jp but not EN

and there like 4 CN exclusive sets, some are collabs, like bilibili or lawson sets

[vague token]

dear god that armor makes you take like half damage from amagi aimed component lol

from 900+ to 450-500

[sharp wing]

it's 60%

amgi deals 60% to heavy w/ arcing

[vague token]

yeah that's half

xD

or more than half

[sharp wing]

does rudder+armor Amagi miss a lot tho?

[vague token]

probably? im running double cv so i dont care that much

[sharp wing]

well

memers

[vague token]

formidable mid amagi heavy top

or just dueling the enemy amagi

is beefy

[waxen lion]

heavy armor hiryuu

[sharp wing]

missing shots won't make u win anyway

[vague token]

yeah, i want her defense buff mostly in double cv

not so much her attack power

[sharp wing]

beaver+armor ryuu more like viable

that was mu initial plan

but i dun run namayuu atm

[vague token]

need more rudders ree

[sharp wing]

also Amagi hsfcr+armor with no eva feels no go

[vague token]

yeah that doesnt seem good

you either armor/rudder

or dont

imo

[sharp wing]

kinda

[elder crane]

Seems fine to me....

swapping HFCR/SG -> 2nd defensive aux is a bad trade

the +hit is way too valuable

[sharp wing]

ye

[waxen lion]

what about hiryuu

[sharp wing]

so i'm still running hsfcr rudder

[waxen lion]

does she benefit in any way from heavy armor modifiers

[sharp wing]

sure does

[elder crane]

Hiryuu wants tank for sure but 2nd is open
double defensive aux is probs still terrible

[waxen lion]

over say, a catapult

[sharp wing]

she doesn't use cata event

[elder crane]

yes I'm taking rudder even

Tank/Rudder was my previous setup

[vague token]

it's basically guess whether hiryuu or amagi has armor

if you run armor vs armor, it stalls

[sharp wing]

i use beaver on her, cause she last to die

[vague token]

if you run armor amagi vs no armor amagi

you win

if you run no armor amagi vs armor hiryuu, you sad

[sharp wing]

u still can lose vs rudder amagi

[elder crane]

if you run armor amagi vs armor hiryuu you're very sad

[vague token]

ultra sad

[elder crane]

but ofc that's only a defense thing

[vague token]

xD

[waxen lion]

so armor + oil tank?

[elder crane]

Armor Amagi vs Amagi not only allows you to win duel but if it's also Armor Hiryuu vs Evasion or better yet, Cata Hiryuu, which is also advantage

[sharp wing]

i'm still more into rudders rng eva, esp if u can evade burns

[vague token]

too bad centaur is cvl

[elder crane]

Armour is pretty worthless if you're not tanking specifically Amagi/Nagato imo

[vague token]

i think formie + armor centaur

would be really strong

[sharp wing]

tbh foxes will be really happy to yr heavy armors

[elder crane]

idk I don't think a 3rd heavy armor is all that helpful, just put Cent in a safe slot imo

ehh foxes are a steamroll for Hiryuu anyways

[sharp wing]

when they attacc you

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

Well if you want to max wall foxes, sure

[sharp wing]

i dun even use cancer on def, i dun care

[vague token]

armor amagi covered by essex pretty beefy

now i need another RWG and another rudder

for essex

[sharp wing]

essex buff is too rng to even consider

[elder crane]

ehh not really
each tick of bomb/torp dmg on main fleet is pretty low, and total dmg is from high volume
which means % skills aren't very RNG at all

[vague token]

it's hard to see it though in the middle of all the bomb numbers

xD

[sharp wing]

main damage is from crash

[elder crane]

it's when the dmg is concentrated in very few ticks when %activation/evasion has high variance

yeah tbf that's true, a lot of dmg from CVs is crash

[sharp wing]

might cancel 1 ryuu torp

[elder crane]

But if you were to say, evasion on main is very RNG, I can see what you mean, since 1 HE shot is also avg 2 ticks of fires which means variance is super high

though on center slot, it's not really, with how much volume of fire that usually takes

[vague token]

crash damage, what's that? i do flooood damage

;)

[sharp wing]

meme damage

[elder crane]

Have you seen Ryuu nukes?
we're talking 10+ hits on one ship for not even all their HP

so it's not all that RNG for Essex skill for main fleet

[sharp wing]

rng is rng

[vague token]

no fire extinguisher will stop meeeee

double flood

xD

[sharp wing]

imagine subs in pvp

u-81

[vague token]

albacore u-81

stack all the dots

[sharp wing]

well, u either go full kms

[elder crane]

I still think subs in PvP = dace to go for the autowin on the last sub to surface

[vague token]

double snorkel surcouf

[sharp wing]

can u put double?

[vague token]

dunno

[elder crane]

no

[vague token]

oh

=(

[elder crane]

couf surfaces pretty early

[sharp wing]

beefy ijn subs srs and surc

[elder crane]

and then will get killed

yknow that sub eHP is complete garbo, right...?

[sharp wing]

for obvious reasons

[elder crane]

they just don't sink in PvE cause they surface for literally 5s then run away

[sharp wing]

and they still do

[elder crane]

yeah occasionally they'll get super bad luck

[sharp wing]

for a reason i didn't skill surc

[elder crane]

ehh if you stack some boxes on her it's fine

[vague token]

just toss her rudder/box she can pretend to be a ca

xD

jk

[sharp wing]

+12 sec

w/ 22 eva at 120

[vague token]

that's why you use cavalla to protec her

;)

[sharp wing]

qeq

[elder crane]

and usually subs aren't shot at either

and/or are disposable (for boss fight)

[vague token]

subs sinking doesnt count as A rank right?

[sharp wing]

i dun want to dorm them tho

[elder crane]

nope

[sharp wing]

nah

only - morale

[vague token]

so yeah it isnt really a huge problem

[elder crane]

they don't take morale loss from sorties anyways

so sinking is the only way to lose morale

[sharp wing]

only from weeklies

[elder crane]

and right now iirc it's bugged to only -10 morale

[sharp wing]

weeklies take morale as regular sorties

[elder crane]

subs are supposed to take -30 afaik

[vague token]

is cavalla still bugged to heal all subs?

xD

[elder crane]

yeah

[vague token]

[elder crane]

you can also heal subs with ARs

[vague token]

perfect for surcouf

kek

[elder crane]

especially Akashi is lots of heal for them

[sharp wing]

u can heal subs with anything that heals ships

[elder crane]

.... that's like, exactly ARs for stuff that's actually relevant

[vague token]

well, sadly Support Carrier says it only heals escort fleet

[sharp wing]

well, those specifically

unless it's specified

it will do

[vague token]

vestal and akashi work cause they're like Any Target

xD

[sharp wing]

ye

[elder crane]

yes but them two, Arizona, and ARs are the only relevant heals

I suppose Shigure maybe

[sharp wing]

Crane

[vague token]

arizona kai when

[sharp wing]

never

unless new artist

[vague token]

i mean they seem willing to new artist

[sharp wing]

It's Hoods artist

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

arizona penny

renown

repulse

[elder crane]

oh darn
no chance then I suppose

[vague token]

=////

[sharp wing]

Hood got her skins and artist bailed out

[elder crane]

cause their contract still is renewed

[vague token]

so basically all the outdated ships

[sharp wing]

well ye

[elder crane]

Damn that means Hood just screwed over the rest

[sharp wing]

Hood is just bad hag

[elder crane]

cause otherwise contract should've expired

[vague token]

like dear god repulse/renown are lul

[elder crane]

but now it probs got renewed

[vague token]

even more than hood

[sharp wing]

renown is best Evergarden cosplay

[vague token]

how many times does renown's skill even stack

[trim horizon]

Beaver+armor on ryuu 🤔

[elder crane]

iirc it was 5?

[vague token]

i bet it caps at something low

aww

that's so lame

just uncap it

[elder crane]

I mean, that's not low....

[sharp wing]

looks unlimited

idk what's in code

but description not specified

[vague token]

it's not like renown will become god tier if it's uncapped

xD

[elder crane]

lol trusting desc to match code

[sharp wing]

yeah

where would u even stack it

[vague token]

like, alabama would become god clear if hers were uncapped

i can understand that one

but renown?

just uncap it

xD

[sharp wing]

she is still bc

[vague token]

well

based on wording

[elder crane]

shared cap for Bama is still pretty bs

[vague token]

your shells do 1.15, 1.3, 1.45

since she has mgm+2

[sharp wing]

no

it's per salvo

[vague token]

it says fired

on wiki

=(

i wish wiki would be consistent

[elder crane]

that's how it works

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

it works after each session

[elder crane]

each mount is treated separately

[sharp wing]

firing

[vague token]

then again they arent consistent with salvo either

[sharp wing]

means gun fires all shells each time

not each shell separately

[vague token]

i mean i know what it means

[elder crane]

all skills with that wording work the same
cause there's not that many skills with that wording

[sharp wing]

be happy it's not per volley

and per firing

[vague token]

isnt she the only one

using the word Fired

everyone else uses salvo

[sharp wing]

idk but it's pretty clear

[elder crane]

can't have inconsistent wording if every skill has different wording

[sharp wing]

each MG activation

[vague token]

in game sure

but why not have the wiki normalize

since we want to read actually useful info

[sharp wing]

well

what's wrong with fired

[vague token]

every time main gun is fired

sounds like per mount

[sharp wing]

it is

[vague token]

yeah, but her skill doesnt do that

it does it per set

[sharp wing]

per volley you mean

[vague token]

honestly if they just said per mount vs per cooldown

that would be the most clear

or For The First Gun Mount

for anyone who has that kind of skill

[sharp wing]

Well ingame more clear

[vague token]

xD

wiki why

[sharp wing]

so it's per salvo, not per volley

I think it works not like u think

U think it stacks?

[vague token]

it should stack?

[sharp wing]

well it's a bit diff

[vague token]

i mean honestly i dunno

skill descriptions are bad

so

[sharp wing]

when she fires 1st salvo skill activates

and works till volley ends

[vague token]

cause otherwise you get just 1.15 1.15 1.15

which means why not just have a flat 15% modifier

[sharp wing]

as i get it

no

it should add 10% to each next salvo in volley

[vague token]

wiki states (includes base main gun mount)

[sharp wing]

Actually need to see the code

[vague token]

so the first shot also is included

what i want: 1.15->1.3->1.45

[sharp wing]

then it activated during 1st salvo too

[vague token]

what i expect 1.15->.1.15->1.15

xD

[sharp wing]

lol

+10 +20 +30

each volley

[vague token]

well skill goes to 15

[sharp wing]

well 15

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

15 30 45

[vague token]

and of course what i REALLY want

15/30/45/60/75/90 no cap

;)

[sharp wing]

hur dur

[vague token]

when the fight goes REAAAALLY long

[sharp wing]

i see it only activating each volley and counter reset

[vague token]

probably

[sharp wing]

after volley ends

that's how i see it working

[vague token]

i mean

i can see it just doing 1.15, 1.15, 1.15

for big troll

[sharp wing]

no stacking with volleys

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

also i'd rather have 1st shot max damage and rest go down

those 2nd and 3rd shots are to be landed on prod

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

or in water

[coral wren]

numba wan for 5 mins or less

👌

[sharp wing]

The problem is you not on my list

Useless Food

[coral wren]

i was at 55 when i rushed

ur clearly not refreshing enough

[trim horizon]

Using VH on Hiryuu

Tell me how shit it is if you encounter me

[sharp wing]

lol

[coral wren]

I thought bbs rekts heavy armors w/ pierce?

[vague token]

no?

ap is better on medium xD

[coral wren]

Theres this armor pierce thing when u get hit by multiple bbs

[vague token]

like you do gain damage

oh

that thing is bad

armor break is bad

[coral wren]

yeah that

[vague token]

it is a joke for pvp, only ok in pve

[coral wren]

You're literally exposed to damage if ur heavy armor

oh ok

well im not rlly having any problem w/ hiryuu so far

regardless of their team comp or equips

Give me more challenge. Make me reset more than 2 times

[silver root]

beaver armor hiryuu new meta

[coral wren]

its double oxy hiryuu

Why cant CVs equip oxy torps?? Fukin azur devs

[sharp wing]

I'm using french vg

Teme-chan made me

[coral wren]

Pasta will get soggy on water

[sharp wing]

lmao

[coral wren]

why is it holding the orb

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

For hp?

[trim horizon]

healing

[sharp wing]

For u to ask questions

[trim horizon]

time to go in #gameplay-help and ask

[coral wren]

if its for stats then k

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

wow.

[sharp wing]

pearl has same hp as toolbox

[coral wren]

u think im dumb huh

I'll rekt your team if i see it

[sharp wing]

What if i do

[coral wren]

gonna film it

Post on chaturbate

[sharp wing]

what's that

[coral wren]

Oh

Time to go ask in #gameplay-help

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

the day will come where xys team will sink under my botes cute feets

[trim horizon]

my fleet already sunk by Saggy hands

[coral wren]

Pro hiryuu builds

[sharp wing]

go post in game help

[coral wren]

No u

[trim horizon]

whatever I don't like running Amagi without rudder, beaver/armor for Ryuu then

[coral wren]

use anti air gear instead of rudder

Helps kill airplanes

[vague token]

oops lost a match, hit back button on my phone and it was too slow

xD

[coral wren]

u disappoint me

[vague token]

im farming xp on 105 formidable/birmingham

so it's w/e

[coral wren]

I managed to pause w/ a 1 hp amagi

Right before gameover screen

[trim horizon]

w13 when

fuck casual just drop the map already

[coral wren]

why r they rerunning graf spee

Shes weak as shit

Man. I want her hot black haired sister instead

[sharp wing]

eww

Disgusting

[coral wren]

I see you have a shit taste

[trim horizon]

Graf Spee is a weakling

Desualnd has presence

[coral wren]

^

He gets it

[vague token]

[coral wren]

Spee is an emo goth chick who cuts herself while listening to my chemical romance

We dont need more white haired girls in the game btw

[sharp wing]

You are a good little masochistic piggy

[coral wren]

Superior ship without lobster arms

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

PRINCESS CARRY! NAW!

[coral wren]

sadly i dont have her

[vague token]

lul

[coral wren]

Its my only regret in life

I got the worst sister

I'd carry that princess whos probably twice my weight

And die happy

[sharp wing]

I hate Sprat anyway

Graf Sprat 🐟

[coral wren]

idk why they give spee tht skill while making her damage weaker than mutsuki

[sharp wing]

what

pocket battleships have superior fp

[coral wren]

The light killer

I see admiral taking more mvps while in same fleet

[sharp wing]

they are just not gunboats

[coral wren]

Superior my ass

Even oigen gets more mvp than her

[sharp wing]

lol

u are drunk

u probably didn't quip gun on her

[coral wren]

Nah just too much oxycola

I did

Wait lemme show u her equip in a moment

i swapped to gf to collect batteries

This is her equip while im grinding w9

She srsly deals less damage than hipper

And oigen

[sharp wing]

that's impossible

[elder crane]

wait what why that gun

you want the core data CAHE a t least
or either PR

[sharp wing]

pocket battle ships have highest fp among CAs on top of 35% skill

prinz has no damage at all

[elder crane]

And this is CH9, so CAHE all the way over CAAP

[sharp wing]

in no world prinz can outdps them

[coral wren]

Idk man. Why is she losing to oigen

[elder crane]

What do you have on Prinz?

[sharp wing]

no torp ca can

[coral wren]

And hipper

[jovial sedge]

Uh

[sharp wing]

lol, cause oxutorp

[coral wren]

[elder crane]

And also that gun selection.....

[jovial sedge]

Thoughts on anime?

[elder crane]

it's meh

[coral wren]

Whats the point of pocket ship if she sucks at dealing damage and being defeated by a literal asuka clone

[sharp wing]

dude...

[coral wren]

maybe i should put tht oxy on her

[sharp wing]

she has top torp ca damage

[jovial sedge]

:(

[coral wren]

btw anime is trash

[elder crane]

"gee I wonder why if I set up a ship for damage she does more damage than a ship that isn't"

[coral wren]

Anime was a mistake

Nah man lvl 10 pocket ship skill

Still deals less dmage than hipper

[sharp wing]

it doesn't

[jovial sedge]

This is sad i thought hey thete are all nice shipus.. Also very interesting thing they transform real ships into their rigging

[sharp wing]

it's just torps

[coral wren]

Only time she beats hipper on mvp is vs light

[sharp wing]

she beats her in anything

[coral wren]

Nah not vs heavy/ cvs

[sharp wing]

she does tho

[coral wren]

Shes trash

[sharp wing]

dude

it's simple math

[coral wren]

I suck at math

[sharp wing]

hipper has 50 less fp and 10% less gun eff and no 35% skill

[coral wren]

wht difference will it make even if i change their equips

[sharp wing]

she cannot outdamage her

unless u do that dumb stuff

[coral wren]

They're even wearing same gun

[sharp wing]

she just mvp cause u put 610 on her and oxytorp

[coral wren]

All hipper has is defensive skills and she still wins mvp

[sharp wing]

...

[trim horizon]

try to equip the same gears

[sharp wing]

Talking to you is pointless

[trim horizon]

🤷

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

idk whats the point of tht +dmage

"pocket battleship"

Waste of red book imho

[sharp wing]

Just get straight hands growing from right place

[coral wren]

Cant wait to get the better sister

If i lack space from next event, im gonna scrap her

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

i burned gold n books on her man. And she repays me w/ mediocre dmage

lemme test a bit w/ same equip

[sharp wing]

...

[coral wren]

+8 oxys

If hipper still beats her, then shes useless

her power isnt even reaching 4k

[finite valve]

if you want consistency then don't use torp on both of them

if she miss her torp while hipper hits then test is meaningless

[coral wren]

But pocket bship vs hipper defense skill

[finite valve]

you want to test dps

[coral wren]

She clearly have an advantage w bonus damage

[finite valve]

yes but torp is 50 50

[sharp wing]

u test torp damage as it is

[coral wren]

But lets see w/ same equip

[finite valve]

if she miss her then test is meaningless

[coral wren]

Ima run it on auto

[sharp wing]

if u ran on manual it would be less rng

[coral wren]

Both of em can miss or kill the boat before torp hits

[sharp wing]

that's not the point

[coral wren]

Tht will decide it

Aight ima hit out w9 cvs

[sharp wing]

u add the variable to tsting that ruins testing purpose

[coral wren]

Watch and learn

[sharp wing]

u can make prinz mvp w/ torp

but it doesn't change fact that she is worst dps

that's just meaningless

and u really need HE gun for pocket battleships to make that skill really shine

[pale robin]

trash skill tho

[coral wren]

So many excuses

Hes clearly bias on spee

But he cant fool us

[sharp wing]

every1 knows i hate Sprat

[pale robin]

Imagine not using spee only for roon grind

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

3 of them are trash

[coral wren]

roon is the trashiest

So 4 of them

[pale robin]

Imagine using kms cruisers

[coral wren]

Desuland a best

Her sisters A shit

[sharp wing]

u ever run leip + konig + biscuit?

[coral wren]

What is kms good for?

[pale robin]

good for enhancing and medals

[sharp wing]

Plebs

[coral wren]

Bzzt

Its nhentai doujins

[pale robin]

Imagine enjoying those flat tiddies

except roon

[sharp wing]

prinz, biscuit, zepp

sharks

[coral wren]

Btw this is spee damage on planes

I knew it i was right

[pale robin]

whos biscuit

[coral wren]

Her damage is stronger than hipper. Idk why saggitary keeps saying shes weak

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

[pale robin]

bisko?

[coral wren]

Bisko shit damage

[sharp wing]

put he gun on her and the gap will increase

[coral wren]

Nah man its the oxy torps

[pale robin]

kms are just shite in general, except teh subs

[sharp wing]

cause you will buff bigger multiplier

[coral wren]

I should just put 2 oxy torps on her

Oxy torps solves problems

My job here is done

Adios amigos

[sharp wing]

Yr job is to be good Foodie

[pale robin]

why waste time minmaxing spee

[coral wren]

Im bored

mk bye

Ima sleep

[covert aurora]

tldr to counter juneau pearl just kill backline before juneau dies

[elder crane]

alternatively delete juneau first and she does nothing

[sharp wing]

killing main before Junie is not that easy

[elder crane]

Deleting Jun early though can be not too difficult, just not consistent

[still minnow]

I'm getting depressed by fleets that are worse than mine winning because they have a level advantage

:(

[sharp wing]

They have level advantage, they are not worse

[still minnow]

if mine was the same level then I would win

therefore they are worse

[sharp wing]

IF

That's why u are often told to use max lvl ships when u start pvp instead of right comp but underlvled

[still minnow]

I got bataan's ryuuseis synced with formi's stun

and it just deletes nonmeta frontlines instantly

it's pretty hilarious

[sharp wing]

well, considering only thing considered actual def is namayuu w/ stall vg...

[still minnow]

do we know whether formi can hit vg targets with ryuusei that she's stunned herself

[sharp wing]

distance in pvp kinda too big for her to make it in time

in pve it works if enemy is not very back in the screen

like in previous event hard

boss was pretty close to middle

Formie could sync herself

but if boss was in the back it would be iffy

[still minnow]

so not worth it over cudas?

[sharp wing]

not really

[elder crane]

I ran an Namark setup a while back
It's pretty easy to delete VG overall, tbh
just that you still end up losing after cause lolHiryuu....
I'll try again with formi after I nearmax her, maybe Formi's defensive buff and tankiness will let the team actually survive final counter

[vague token]

she has auto damage reduction, it shouldnt be too bad

xD

[still minnow]

what's that italian ship that protects allies from torpedoes? XD

[still minnow]

oh it only affects her

lame

LAME

selfish littorio

[trim horizon]

?

[sharp wing]

it affects front vg

[trim horizon]

and the ship in the front most position i

[sharp wing]

and herself

[still minnow]

neither of those things are formidable

[trim horizon]

but it's useless anyway

[sharp wing]

but it's prety meh

[vague token]

if she had a way to renew it

it'd be pretty good

[sharp wing]

still

[still minnow]

yeah when a ship is getting hit by like 7 torpedoes per strike

[sharp wing]

and they don't rotate

[still minnow]

blocking 2 of them once is pretty turbogarbage

[trim horizon]

Centaur mood is down

time to switch in to a real gacha

dunno If I should just oath DoY or JB

[vague token]

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

oath both

[trim horizon]

[charred kindle]

is it better to put AP main guns on ur BBs since they only target the other backline?

[vague token]

BBs target randomly with their gun

so no

[charred kindle]

kkkkkkk

are HE guns the go to for pvp?

[vague token]

yeah, HE hits the vanguard quite hard

and does fine against backline

[charred kindle]

if the BB has a volley skill, would u put the fastest firing HE gun on her?

[vague token]

yeah

like the twin 381mm

[charred kindle]

aight

[sharp wing]

pinned tierlist has gear section

[coral wren]

Is San Diego meta yet?

[charred kindle]

she has been since retro..?

real nice for world 12

[trim horizon]

not really, she doesn't offer anything new beside insane AA

which doesn't work against Big7 shell

[charred kindle]

exactly world 12

[trim horizon]

PvE meta =/= PvP

[sharp wing]

Don'tmake emsalty

Sandy Kai is not EN thing. It was somewhat a thing on asian servers, cause they got Sandy Kai in October 2k18 before Amagi and dragonkais, when foxes were meta

Idk where these obsessive ideas come from on global about SandyKai meta and other crap

[trim horizon]

rainbow rarity

[sharp wing]

Probably gamehelp plebies

[coral wren]

Cleveland/Helena/Sendai vanguard meta when?

[sharp wing]

that frankly makes no sense

sendai skill activates 10sec, good for foxes strike
Helena skill activates after 20 sec

good for Enty and other slow cvs

they don't work in 1 setup

also u bring sendai w/ 2 gunboats

that's 1 skill wasted

[trim horizon]

foxes and enty middle

I see no problem

[sharp wing]

also sendai and helena both are paper botes, the offtank one will drop very fast, if not on opening torps

middle one will live a bit

[shy hazel]

i imagine

if u spam

#freehongkong revolution of our times

in general chat

p sure mods here will ban u

cos yostar is pro china

[trim horizon]

there is only one way to fid out

[sharp wing]

Time to find out

[still minnow]

is that torpedo launcher in the event worth grinding?

the gold quad mag

I have gold quints on my frontline rn, is that an upgrade?

[elder crane]

yes
gold quad mags are generally a big upgrade over quints

higher dmg per torp on a tighter spread and faster load time, for only some loss of total salvo dmg

[still minnow]

great

another gold thing I need to grind

lmao

[ionic magnet]

rainbow quint mag > gold quad/quint mag > others

so yea

[still minnow]

mag is just way better than everything else...?

[ionic magnet]

yes cos mags actually hit enemies

non mags will just hit the waters most of the time

[elder crane]

For PvP and auto bossfights that's the case

for automobbing normal 533s are fine, and for manual "optimally" you go either those or 610s, although magtorps can be much more comfortable to use

[vague token]

mag torp just less stress

auto, manual, just easier

[safe meteor]

I'm wondering in this event,
what team you use vs the boss in SP3?
that boss suicides for me sometimes, and i lose the S rank on auto

that golden homing torp is the best for pvp right?

[trim horizon]

What's the new sub

[elder crane]

SP3 you just need enough burst to kill boss from 20 bars before she kills herself

[safe meteor]

do you do it manual?

[elder crane]

Nah
Just gotta play around a bit to see who has consistently the right timing

[vague token]

or use a dps ca or something

[safe meteor]

yea, im trying to figure that out too

[vague token]

to follow up

[safe meteor]

so which team you use?

[vague token]

hyuuga/baltimore atm xD

need affection

[trim horizon]

This one

[vague token]

that is a lot of oil

[safe meteor]

that what i thought

[trim horizon]

[elder crane]

tbh full oil boss isn't stupid
it's optimal for cat XP

[finite valve]

use jean or kgv

if you want overkill use both

for VG just use whoever tbh

[safe meteor]

there is no good 1:1 to S rank it consistently on auto?

[elder crane]

you'll need to make sure they don't mistime though and bring Spee to right under 20 bars then have to wait for next salvo

[finite valve]

i think you need at least 2 backline

[elder crane]

KGV is fine cause she has her desynced barrage, probably

[finite valve]

you can test with jb or kgv solo

[vague token]

or adjust formation

[elder crane]

CA strat probs works now for 1:1

not confident on that though

[finite valve]

ayaya could work

tbh i think ayaya + jb/kgv works

[elder crane]

Anyone with desync barrage should be safe if you set up gun timings right

KGV, Wash, Bama, etc.

Well I suppose if barrage fails it might be issue

[finite valve]

spee only destruct at certain hp right?

[elder crane]

20 bars

starts the countdown

[finite valve]

i would say safe bet is jb + kgv

or just solo each and test

dk if going to be consistent for 1:1 tho

dork + jb could also work

slow her down and nuke her ass

[vague token]

i mean you gotta use a beefy dps CA xD

Baltimore with bb backline

[elder crane]

that's probs the actual safest strat

[vague token]

big deeps

or roon i guess

[finite valve]

or mogami

[elder crane]

if that can 20-0 Spee alone, would be great

you could also 2 CA and run placeholder main, I think

she doesn't shell main, right?

[vague token]

she does

[safe meteor]

the window is so short, and on Auto, they dont really do that well

[vague token]

i had a random littorio at 70

and she almost sank

[finite valve]

that why you need to test lol

[vague token]

xD

[finite valve]

either 2 BB or 1 BB back

for VG use any top 5 CA

[vague token]

i think if i wasnt using sanrui gun it would be more consistent

on balti