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And good meme 
armor for Sara
?
essex doesnt buff cvs
she buffs herself
it's also minimal compared to balti/sirius

na she's a utility bot/tank
she's fine
nothing super fancy
toss her mid or against amagi for stall
while a real carrier does work
kek
Just wait for a new cv to be overkitted like amagi 
we need pr cvs
?
Alter enterprise/takao
thats why its shit
Not meme enough
it's because they're the leftovers after the end/loss of humanity
they're anime names but they work

i cant find any difference in damage between the pasta gun and roon gun on baltimore 
theortically pasta gun should have 1 more dps than roon gun but in testing they are practically the same
pasta gun is for projectiles / second
mostly
not for doing big deeps
there's like a whopping 2 ships with on hits xD
Erm idk how you're getting more DpS theoretically with pasta gun on Balti
I'm pretty sure Roon gun is just superior
so her bullets inflicts armor break, but armor break only increases dmg from shelling?
but balti buffs planes....
armor break on heavy, and yes, only for shelling

cries in AP dive bomber that works on all armor
i just did back of the napkin dps calc for roon gun vs pasta gun
4x2 x 43 x 110% / 8.58 for pasta
don't forget VT
that doesnt include vt
VT is 1.2s for pasta gun and 0.5 s for Roon gun
ugh thats what i forgot
no worries
also absolute 0.3s CD for CA guns as well
it's still the most projectiles per second
but not dps
if only there were more than 2 ships with On Hit skills xD
so I would put it on balti in my cv-less, triple-BB fleet for that sweet armor break proc
i guess she would get +15% evasion and FR in that case
you get 5.24% more likelihood of activating armor break with one full set of her shots
with Zaragun over Roongun
ignoring reload for now that means you'd need to have gunfire damage somewhere around 10X that of Balti for it to be worth on shooting single-target heavy enemy, if nobody else has armor break
yeah imma switch back to roon gun
and it only gets worse for non-single target, if BBAP guns are run, and once we factor in reload
so yeah if we ignore gun pattern there's basically 0 cases where Zaragun is better than roongun on Balti
And generally Roongun pattern is considered superior
pasta dream denied
On the other hand though roongun has 1/2 shots fire immediately after targeting, when targeting accuracy is best, while sangun has only 1/3 of shots do that
And ofc Roongun will have average better output (ignoring hitrate) DpS
Is Balti's barrage even good though?
iirc most gun-CA barrages are meh for how many shots they need to activate it
it's an ap version of new orleans
which makes it better
cause it might actually hit main
xD
Looks pretty shit though still
or go through and hit multiple vanguard
i mean what do you expect
only pr CAs get cool barrages
the other good barrage CAs are >_>
Takaos and Dlands have fairly decent barrages
yes but that's not the fault of their barrage though
balti is also squishy so im planning on giving her whatever has the highest burst vs dps
but i gotta level her up before i test
balti isnt that squishy with rudder/beaver
squishier than sanrui of course
but given that she has 270 fp she has a lot of hp
suffolk has 273 fp but far less hp xD
heavy armor balti time? 
you cant
armor is main only but excluding cvl lol
basically if you just toss roon/sanrui gun with mle, you can gun down squishies if they arent careful xD
That's actually a fair point
accounting for gun preload, if Balti doesn't live past about 20s, Zaragun is better than Roongun on raw DpS
she has 75% aux
if you put her lead you should use zara yeah
you push more frontloaded damage
somewhere around 10-20s is crossover on the two
if you ignore Zaragun's shitty pattern though
ill test all three
What if it was single150 levels of lower damage though?
Or worse, since that gains less than this hypothetical gun
whats maxed fp for namaryuu now?
thats with oil tank beaver on hiryuu?
Yep

alright
ah then beaver on nagato?
Yep
SG/Beaver SG/HFCR Tank/Rudder
STAAGs and gold for rest except DBs ofc
so these 14.4s are just not maxed affection i guess
lol
+23 if you run cata over Rudder
they did fix tech level fleet power bug though, right?
I'll also need to see what happens when the gold plate arrives ofc
how much fp is 650 hp worth lol
HP is /10 iirc
ah
compared to FP/Avi/Torp/AA
why not contribute
/s
i did all my fights
is the ticket after reset season always be 5/10?

when will they make dlands into cbs
i see a 2599 already 
depending on how active this season is. I might not make top 10 with 94+/- 2
gensui rush was terrible this season, only got +8 out of 3 resets

too bad i cant find a real maxed namaryuu but i guess its safe to say cudas are better than ryuusei for cent-formie
really solid winrate
i think i got a new favorite comp


technically isnt Cent-Formie-KGV just a better and stronger HMS version of nakaga 
Deal
not even
Dunno, but i’m glad i’m not the only one who thinks qe doesn’t belong to any hms comp lmao
nothing is similar to nakaga

To dab on ryuusei
1 Losses 
Rip... Tho finally got that yuki
they gave the CN plate requirements for the yamato armor 

it's 35% cheaper
ye
Oh, me too
I had you in list
List what
Oh Lol 


damn it
got knocked into 3rd last second 
still 8 minutes to go
only down from here
looks like sandy is more casual than wash 
how the mighty have fallen
I don't see kharn. I guess he bit the dust this season
if only i could have donated cay more points rip
Enty is not that bad in def 
RNG just wasn't on my side this season. the only person that gave me bonus points this reset as you
there's famine and his 2602

lol
oof
kamita returns this season 
didn't vlysha have 2599 like really early
ye
I was 7 points behind famine and ended 7th 
i've never seen meiru

that's a curious secretary he's using, too
lul
Gonna take a season wide break from pvp 

Same, I can't rush


No need for these any longer 
will need a therapy for that

got my 2nd Takao from the wish
who needs alarms when you are casual

wish is a lie. I have better luck in event banners than this one for the subs
oof
subs never go to event build btw
so keep trying
i think the only banner which u can get subs in event
is chessboard one
I got the cubes. Just not the gold
finally hit under 1600 cubes with the 30 pulls I just did 
wait that's not good
dump them on PR 
0 cubes 
not like 1590 will ever go away
landed a 15
forgot i sent my nagato on a mission and only had lusty and sd on standby
Ofc not. I said I was lucky on normal events right
By lucky I mean under 50 builds every banner 
Sometimes under 10
kharn, i will avenge you this season
I'll try not to sleep on 14 tickets 
also, i noticed how with 1 ryuusei your dmg might be not enough to take down mid spot, but with two there is high chance most of them will go to waste, not damaging sides at all =/
who was wash top 5?
Uhh, don't remember. 1 or 2 chinks and the rest are some randoms
max score was 2595
iirc

but i was looking at the last 10 mins
Maybe one day we'll hit 2600+
Uhh, sleep deprivation isn't a joke
I can almost hit it if I dont sleep on tix/lightly sandbag
I envy phoenix tho, instead of his 11.30 and 5.30 i have 10.00 and 4.00
do you live in hawaii or something?
nah, europe
120 1/5 😦
Ugh this new kai and so many more cancer to fight
Tho i still think with all these there will sbe pr2 before warkai
Bring cancer to everyone. ...................... Weeeel fuck that shit just no.. Wont ever use that idiotic broken bullshit fleet
Good im lvling formidable and rest of hms
Getting there slowly
Mine similar lvl kgv 115
Formi around 80
I have Zoo ready 
Pls noo
Zoo def + HMS offence 
When azuma comes i wonder what will happen if this hms will be working
plenty of time to introduce newer ships

when someone join zoo faction
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzfkxAC-Bw8||
That was a joke ... Would never use em also joke to those who must resort to that bottom of lowness
Sadly
i haven't even touched mine's retro
since i beat the living shit out of hiryuu's with enty
maybe it will be like that until peeps starts maxing out her red card skill
which is uber cancer
I haven’t fought any hiryuu retrofits yet
I absolutely fear the increase of stats and that extra skill
I don’t even want to see her new skill I’m just going to close my eyes and look at the damage when it’s done
they're annoying to fight but she can be chipped out by amagi if you lane it with hiryu
just 2 crits and she's dead
assuming ur amagi is equipped with black and white shell
I don’t use amagi
and not some BS shield item

well im nt really using a full IJN fleet
Enterprise is the only salvation
hms, murica, ijn
Enterprise and warspite kai for this meta and new users
the top 10s are mostly hiryuu so ye
lol top 10
it would be a problem if u cant delet her
You mean top 1k
It’s fine I have no trouble beating meta fleets it just takes several refreshes
Eh top 100 seems to be 70% Hiryu amagi
I see occasional British fleets
tryhard stalling defense fleets with st louis, juneue and yukikaze
it doesnt matter what defense fleet u use
if u have a good barrage that delets the backline, you can steamroll them

Yuki is meh not the most cancerous thing in the world
Hiryuu’s 15 seconds of invincibility is what usually fucks me over
are you using namayuu mirror
negative
HMS?
oh lol
I like seeing her barrage at least
whenever i see one, i just count it as a free win
you need Jun + nanoda if you want to use meme fleet
yeah but if she eats amagi and nagato's barrage
she wont be able to survive owarida
yeah. sometimes they have shitty air control
and wont trigger
thts why sandy vgs are free win for me
maybe it works if ur an attacker and u reset a lot
i'll never let go of my belfap
tbh she's been the very foundation of my fleet
eh the only winrate that matters is vs zoo
others are free wins if you have a decent comp
only way to lose is vs sleep 
or when ur doing something like watchin porno
i learned my lesson
that time namagi got beaten by a meme kms fleet with enty
i lost the enty vs enty 1v1
Any1 actually had any luck w/ VH armor?



slaps fleet comp
This bad boy can beat Akaga so easily
iim pretty sure the VH armor is bugged 
torps and shells are hit fort he same exact dmg with or without on hiryuu
yup nagato/amagi shells are hitting for 1057 with or without armor
fantastic coding yostar

real next level

jp day has 25hrs it seems

Big brain
more time to farm but also 2 extended main in 1 week
the gold version of VH will be in core shop or exclusive for this raid?
event
the new stuff in core shop is the tb from wc and a 550 hp with cn dd boost
EN core gets Akatsuki, battery and Dauntless
other items are not in en
idc about weeb servers
sadly i am not a camper so i dc either way
qeq
gonna sleep on tix either way 
Sandy 17%. Who higher? 
Pleb servers. 
u can go to 60k only w/ good ex
45 daily battles give u 42.9k in 13 days
3.3k per day
u use tix on hard?
that's not enough
for 60k
u get 5 tix per day
- 10 mail
unless ticket runs on hard give more points
lol
I mean if u spend all tix on hard mode each giving 120 points u get only 9k
u said u gonna do hard w/ tix
so
You get points regardless of tix
all tix spent on hard = 9k
all 45 daily runs give 42.9k
You can do hard for 120 points without spending tix too
so what's the point in 15?
Bonus rewards
lmao
I mean read help
I don't trust help 


it is ok, remember when help said we could attack lusty after all escorts were defeated?
i remember
yeah...
her plot armor defied the help tab
I cleared all map to bang Lusty... And she was like "NOPE FUCCER
But i don't remember they fixing it
they didnt
this one they did apperently
which is why im surprised they fixed this one
yeah
xD
Ain't got that for that
Well, u will cap anyway
30 tix max
Also who know when next event archived
jp got like 6 events in archive so far
3 events and 2 SP
At least Spee SP got gold quads
Time to make 1:1 and farm hard then 
i saw on twitter they are getting some new aux in core
a 1 only type like rudder
wonder what it is
they get in core that aux w/ cn dd bonus damage

the 3rd datamined item
ah
oh boi
lol, that new core plane we getting has shittier dps, than BTD
and has no AA
Tho it says t0 bombs
maybe en wiki calced using t3 damage
CN doesn't say it's bombs are special anyway
wait
The 2k and 100 bombs here are from Dauntless
1600 from ap bomber and 500 bombs from VF
so compared to regular bombs:
2k 456>480
100 173>185
but who uses those

well, sure
well, i usually go 1 FE
well, pyo has same hp as tollbox
+1 luck
We need t0 FE
We not getting it anytime soon anyway
i got like... 3
6
i have no axu and gun plates
and out of plane plates too now after retroes
lol
I wish i ever had 1k plates
aside torps and aa
lol really
wtf
i have 1k aa and 36 plane
and need to max new ryuu

this game needs more afk friendly mode
like auto all map


Unholy
They don't want to piss they consumers anyway
I mean, 1 time buy item would be fine
let us sell boxes directly
qeq
i dont want to open all my purple boxes
let us trade boxes for plates
it will take ages =/
same
well, u just put buki in yr stall team
well, not with credits but merits and stuff
I have too many purins
in dock
lol

lol
i didnt realize they were all sharing red as their main color
never saw them all side by side
would dork have the same blond hair if she wasn't a vampire though?
we need a human form dork skin jk
i remember og Dork art was blonde 
her eyes turn red in combat (on gown skin)
idk

seeing (base) Dork give me nostalgia of Code Geass
vampire gets red eyes though
maybe vampirism effects change based on class xD
yostar we need that looore
anime in 3 days (probably later with subs)
would they even have dork/vampire explaining their history in the anime
it would be cool but i doubt it
=(
if anime production was done earlier in the year, then expect a lot of missing later shipgirls and contents
i mean i expect them to ignore 75% of the ships anyways xD
hope anime nails a lot of ambiguous lore/meme to be canon 
tfw
appears in anime but not 

lol
lol, but nothing for sandy cause no oath
rip
what adobe product would he even give her 
Paint 3d
Adobe AIR ofc

Does hard even drop BPs without tix... i got 0 so far
kinda much worse
sirens drop at least non gold bps
i thought without tix it wasnt a reward battle or whatever
at least from help tab xD
u still get points, but other rewards are meh, bps almost non existent

so.. anyone tried putting VH armor on Akagi to tank Amagi? lol
I heard rumor about it not changing armor as intended, is that confirmed then?
oh is it bugged?
hella bugged
replaced oil tank on dragon and she was worse than before, lol
Disappointing :/ But when it's fixed I'm going to try using it with foxes, at least until I find better backline for my torpmemes

lame, hopefully they fix soon
To get cucced by ryuusseis?
eh, sara has like a crazy aa stat
it's fine
double cv isnt really afraid of hiryuu
like at all
hiryuu is only cleaning up what big seven has already done to you
(and amagi barrage)
well yeah
cause heavy
oh and essex buff
sadly those are 2 medium...
so yeah
hiryuu isnt really my concern
she's just finishing off what namagi has murdered
xD
u give like not deserved credit to naga
i get big sevened 3 times a lot ok
well, i never see naga mvp
usually she deals half or less of amagi damage
and like 2/3 of ryuu
ryuu seldom mvp
leveling formidable and birmingham X_x
rip

when she drops
also, i send my sub on comm, but i still can summon it in event

double lvling
cannot assign to new slot, but if she already was assigned to team, u can summon her

im losing fights because my vanguard
moves into shelling
and then stops
=(
same
only 3 more weeks
Not sure what Sag means
My Hiryuu postret occasionally MVPs without proc and with only one missed barrage on Amagi
Even preret, whenever match comes down close to wire and she procs into enough enemy HP to take the strike, she always takes MVP
Even if Amagi is alive at end too
what is her top damage xD
Whatever is about 40% of a proper enemy team HP is
Including Juneau and pearl and Ykkz heals ofc
i think my essex had a weird match against ultra stall where she broke 40k somehow
big flood ticks
plus aa
sometimes rng happens and essex shoots down one of the hiryuu skill planes
randomly
yeah, just like BBV planes, I'm not sure if Hiryuu skill planes in PvP are a pure positive
more enemy fighters mostly, and the occasional thing like Essex skill
i think if someone is not running tank
and if their formation is weird
essex can get the kill on one
otherwise they'll get eaten up by sara or vanguard instead
it's 100% rng
Also, I assume plate skill is still broken currently?
Yep, the only one that matters
xD
inb4 calculated so all servers effectively get it at the same time 
yeah the purple one is trash dunno why they bothered
for newbs/noobtrap
=(
i guess the majority of gear is a trap anyways
so what does it matter if we add one more
xD
Like half the unique planes are noobtraps basically too
im curious if 5% more works out ok on sara
since she has her other dive bomb slot
going from .8 to .85 is like what, a 6% damage boost?
lol
Got 156 start, who did that voodoo thing ? 
That was xy 
Told u have no proper voodoo powers

oof
I see
so did taihou ever got her VA before they update it?
now she don't got any VA anymore
weird
now they are more,,, scary
Like A LOT new lines
going to reset my nox
doesn't help, when their updates install some crap without asking you
weird af
owo, first time i broke 150 first 5
just push reject
154 =D

most of the problem is that ppl never read
taiho skin got a bug
just push accept / yes w/o reading
if u read bug reports
and i hate how u cannot do anythign when nox in fullscreen
it's just retarded
i run 2-3 instances of bs in fullscreen in background fine


try
wait like 5 mins after reset and take it if no movement, I'd say

Always when i get 150+ start, I then get walled by ded resets into equalized score 

fox rushers 

list is dead rip
Nakaga with torpmemes works on offense as long as you’re willing to reset a couple of times
Fastest wins on the planet


Who else can you slot in instead of amagi
And debuff
Amagi disgusting
She is
she can still snipe hiryuu with a bit of luck
With the helena skill the entire enemy vg gets destroyed in the first air strike
This was a vg with belfast btw
But helena also amplifies dmg on enemy backline
so does sirius ;)

I like my Helena
sirius also 100% rng free and quite tanky ;)
I know
I'm leveling her
She's 110 rn
And at the same time I wanna try with Balty
juneau is not happy about being lead

Not enough 
i prefer dots
since they ignore most defense mechanics
ykk? ignored, pvp mods? ignored
I like 100% eva and double dmg

But I feel like it would perform even better if the planes launched a bit faster

evade doesnt do much against hiryuu usually since final counter and the barrages are outside of it















