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hot creek
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i thought centaur would survive

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but I guess not

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fucking threw this season so hard GG

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really shouldn't have risked it

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ugh

trim horizon
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Rip

vague token
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centaur isnt that tanky

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her aa is pretty low

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she's like sub 300 aa

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just has high base evade

hot creek
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dis what I get for trying to train essex in pvp UniYan

vague token
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kek

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she's been sniping mvp since like level 115

hot creek
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goddamint I always get a headache for the rest of the day whenever this happens SandyMeme

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need to stop taking this shit so Siriusly

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Time to take a whole season break UniYan

vague token
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accept the casual within

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and be free

still minnow
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my backline is taiho, formidable and illustrious

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which one should be in the center

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pretty sure thery're all at the top of the list of tanky cvs

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does it even matter

trim horizon
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Sandy 45.14

vague token
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wow

still minnow
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?

silver root
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you gotta have enty and/or hiryuu on a triple-cv meme fleet for that RNG protection

still minnow
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neither of them pass the waifu test

silver root
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ur fleet should be safe from akaga but idk how it will perform versus namaryuu

vague token
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triple cv gets dunked by 2 cv

still minnow
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my only BBs are yamashiro and arizona

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and I'm pretty sure neither of them are a better option than one of the CVs

vague token
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yeah probably not

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i used arizona when i first started

ionic magnet
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anyways taihoe should be the tankiest among those three

still minnow
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reee yandere is the polar opposite of hoe

vague token
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i cant wait for heavy armor upgrade

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put that on sara mid

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tank all the hits

still minnow
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oooh

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I forgot to think of that equip in terms of pvp

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that could be a pretty big deal

silver root
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heavy armor enty SandyMeme

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my body is ready

still minnow
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fucking christ she's bad enough already

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I really need a BB to put in my fleet asap

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enterprise just hard walls it

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because lucky e syncs up with rh launches and she never takes any damage

vague token
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usually

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if you have a sloooow launch cv

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and a fast one

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you can get around lucky e

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my essex has vf/fulmar/818

ionic magnet
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or a weird firing BB like kgv

vague token
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sara with double helldiver

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is so slow

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she can dodge it

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on 2nd-3rd launch

trim horizon
still minnow
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the bbs that I want to get but don't have yet are dork, dunkek, north carolina, and hiei

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hopefully one of those will be able to fix my problem

trim horizon
still minnow
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wot is ur probllem

trim horizon
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NC has no damage, Hiei is Hiei, Dunk beside the preloaded salvo has nothing

still minnow
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then dork

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problem solved

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ok but how to even get dork big thonk

trim horizon
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WC becomes permanent GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

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normal pool or WarArch

still minnow
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I guess we're not going to get a rerun

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because apparently the devs hate new players

ionic magnet
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here we go again EmileSip

still minnow
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:p

trim horizon
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the fact that you're getting them in the normal pool

shy hazel
vague token
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well, the bigger problem

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is no event gear

trim horizon
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WC gear will be in the core shop

still minnow
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what event gear do I need from winter's crown

vague token
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will it?

trim horizon
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yes

silver root
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just the firefly

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havent said anything about firebrand yet

vague token
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i thought they werent cause vdir doesnt have magtorps

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xD

trim horizon
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no blackburn ?

still minnow
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is firebrand good in pvp

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the one that shoots at enemy planes

trim horizon
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I mean it's not like those gear a re used anyway

silver root
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both are super niche planes

vague token
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more important would be 2nd hpfcr and vf pirate

trim horizon
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we skip those, like DC rainbowmag

vague token
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kek

silver root
split marten
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use hecccats and heccdivers like a fucking casul

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y does the guide call heccdiver heccdabber? Thinkpitz

shy hazel
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all of u is weird

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helldiver is helldiver

shy hazel
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time to invest in subs people

vague token
coral wren
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cute subs

silver root
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TFW no U47 feelsvoiman

coral wren
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i got most of them

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Im just missing that gold ijn sub

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Did they release tht sub with a skull mask yet

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Dont think we have her yet in EN

hot creek
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finally maxed all formi skills HappyHamm

coral wren
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Was the highest i got

split marten
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Subs god tier for pve

coral wren
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tfw still regret not leveling dork

split marten
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But pve

coral wren
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Btw whats your server progress

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Sandy is at 40% somethin

vague token
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but dork is neptune/purple heart

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and a better vampire than vampire

coral wren
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shes weird

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I know peeps recommend investing on her for w12

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But srsly. I cant bring myself to like hms ships

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They say monarch would be a pvp god but i dont see her

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Its all namagihiryu, all day eVryday

midnight heron
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BulinWat did u say

midnight heron
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tfw u eat +9 just to get 100 merit MutsukiCurse

sharp wing
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Rusher have no right to complain about 9s UniGun

midnight heron
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nothing to do with rushing tho

ripe latch
shy hazel
sharp wing
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gold quint 🚮

shy hazel
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i have alot np

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rainbow still better

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for

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i forgot name again

sharp wing
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quads are better

shy hazel
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o jintsu

sharp wing
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rainbow good on DDs cause reload

shy hazel
sharp wing
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but for buki would work

shy hazel
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you realize in pvp ibuki is useless after first torp spam

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shell die asap anyways

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just for def harassment

sharp wing
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she's actually pretty survivable

shy hazel
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quints will do better

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just maximize early torp spam

sharp wing
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anyways gold quad > quint in damage

shy hazel
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if it hits tht is

sharp wing
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u not gonna hit 5 quint torps and gold quint has T2 stats

shy hazel
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quad having more dmg than quint is common sense

sharp wing
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well, rainbow quint has same stats as gold quad

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aside reload obviously

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both T3 same torp

shy hazel
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the inevitable kms event will have rerun anyways

sharp wing
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Spee rerun also has quads

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It might come faster

shy hazel
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i have 3 quads

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i can use anytime i need

sharp wing
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It's actually only other event on CN aside Miksa that had re-rerun

shy hazel
sharp wing
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I only ever got 2 quads and 1 i farmed

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box drops fuccing messers and 280

raw osprey
shy hazel
sharp wing
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Amagi ....

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Where is my Amagi oath skin

raw osprey
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actually kept lvl 1 copy of every single one

sharp wing
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for FP

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FP rankers keep few copies

shy hazel
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that one not even for fp

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pure meme

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dedication

sharp wing
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well, ye

shy hazel
sharp wing
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but he has a lot of ducpes

raw osprey
sharp wing
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almost at 10k fp

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Well, they are still far from those weebs w/ 100 same waifus oaths

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That's dedication

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Imagine 100 clevegaes oathed

blazing scroll
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Nothing wrong with that

sharp wing
raw osprey
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or the guy who oathed 100 Kisaragis smugBucky

sharp wing
raw osprey
sharp wing
grim ember
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can some1 suggest a good hms pvp lineup?

sharp wing
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look pins

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there is tierlist

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Also Cent + Formie + QE/KGV might not be lsited there yet

shy hazel
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@ionic magnet

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go test it

grim ember
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wats best counter for the hiryuu kai
if there is any?

ionic magnet
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use your own hiryuu kai

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thats it kek

sharp wing
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mirror only counter

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Offense having 20% damage reduction gives u over 90% winrate w/ mirror

ionic magnet
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hmm cent + formie + kgv is atleast on same tier as kgv/cent/mona imo

midnight heron
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use enty and pray for OWARIDA

ionic magnet
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but idk i dont feel safe with 2 CVs tbh

sharp wing
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well, ye

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also QE eva buff kinda safer

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and big crash damage

ionic magnet
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well im really getting lower winrates if i use qe and no kgv

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qe has problems tanking as flag and deals very random dmg

sharp wing
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If QE cannot do w/ 2 cv, then she's lost cause

ionic magnet
trim horizon
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Divorce her and take the ring back

shy hazel
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imagine 2 cvs

ionic magnet
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or just cut her finger with the ring and lock her in basement

shy hazel
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then u face nagato amagi

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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Imagine oathing QE

midnight heron
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imagine buying qe with medals

sharp wing
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Having subs not lose morale, when they sink into event is pretty neat. Wish we got sub auto summon option tho..

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gotta farm my kms sub fleet

surreal locust
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which of Hiryuu's skills do I train first?

shy hazel
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last stand skill

sharp wing
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blue then kai skill

midnight heron
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no point training other skill if she gon die in 5s

sharp wing
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lol, u-101 goes so far forward in boss, that she shoots torps behind boss, just forward

midnight heron
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dats y use her as flag

sharp wing
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nah, she had bad ASR

midnight heron
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i find dat move forward skill retarded af

sharp wing
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i use recon sub as flag

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well, it uusally helps land torps

midnight heron
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idk i never found it useful

sharp wing
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also i use gyro on subs, so she goes really fast BuckySmug

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Full forward

midnight heron
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then she goes off the screen

sharp wing
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she needs to move 2/3 of current distance tbh

surreal locust
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so for Hiryuu, first I max out blue, then red, and finally yellow skill

midnight heron
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ya but yellow skill actually useless unless u run with souryuu

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which is rare unless u got no better ship

shy hazel
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i have ocd so i sl10'ed it anyways

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ofc it goes last

midnight heron
sharp wing
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So far i got only 2 Ryuussei bps from event...

midnight heron
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do u even need many ryuusei anyway

sharp wing
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I need at least 3rd

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I'd actually like 5 at least

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1 locked in pvp

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double ryuu ark, ryuu taihoe, cent

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Skk

midnight heron
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will take forever JeanDead

sharp wing
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kaga

white granite
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can you do pvp without juneau u47Think

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im too lazy to level her YorkBruh

sharp wing
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U can, but she gives u 10-30% winrate depending on comp

white granite
sharp wing
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Unless u just torp meme foxes and fast win or fast reset

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But resetting is PortDoll

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Lol, chaser has 145% torp eff MikasaShock

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Same as Ryuujou

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Hermes Kai double 140% slots

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Wait, wait.... Bataan has 155% torp eff?

white granite
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don’t forget that they only have 6 planes slots instead of the usual 8 that carriers have tho

coral wren
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get namagi

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Either hiryu or enty

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u just beaten pvp

sharp wing
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lel, i know that all...

coral wren
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with a couple resets, ur winrate would be 100%

sharp wing
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that's not how winrate works

coral wren
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Nah theres a meme exercise WR

sharp wing
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if u did couple resets per fight yr winrate below 50%

coral wren
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u can keep it to 100 by resetting

sharp wing
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we talk about comps wr, not meme profile scores

coral wren
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comps wr doesnf matter if the fight depends on rng

sharp wing
midnight heron
coral wren
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who needs a brain when u can stomp evry comp

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With resets

sharp wing
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🤦

coral wren
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Juneu just waste peoples time

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Makes fight unnecessarily long

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Theres a "stalling" fleet for a reason

midnight heron
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tell dat to hardcore def fleet user BuckySmug

coral wren
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Built to make the attacker suffer

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But i dont rlly dislike em

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Since i can reset all i want

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Fair game

sharp wing
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I like to make u waste yr time resetting BuckySmug

coral wren
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Most def fleets are just namagihiryu w/ yukiaurojints

sharp wing
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Well, I only put cancer def because of Ark

coral wren
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or juneu replacing aurora

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i have all the time in the world so doesnt matter if u stall

sharp wing
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some ppl didn't even know i have 120 cancer before that, lol

coral wren
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tbh i love seeing aurora

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She gives me more trouble cuz i run ayayuki

sharp wing
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aya is 🚮

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better run jint

coral wren
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But also makes the enemy suffer too if aya crits

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And delets aurora

sharp wing
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u will get higher wr

coral wren
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Nah i love aya

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if u cnt make her work then u suck

sharp wing
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aya needs buffer

coral wren
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my jintsu still needs lvl

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Not if u put 2 oxys in her

sharp wing
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but you would need brains for that MakinaSmug

coral wren
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I have 4 oxys installed on aya and yuki

sharp wing
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no wonder u reset 2x per battle, lmao

coral wren
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Disregarding defense completely

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Not 2x dumdum

sharp wing
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sorry, 3x

coral wren
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Its 3-10x

midnight heron
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dont need defence if ur ships rng dodge everything BuckySmug

coral wren
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My highest was 23 resets which took 1 hr

sharp wing
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how the fucc u get that high, i never had even 10 w/ lvling fleets

coral wren
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Its vs juneulouisayuki

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It seems the 3 vg got super dodge

sharp wing
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but, well, dildos BuckySmug

coral wren
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So they took longer

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im dedicated

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i love suffering

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Makes me hard

sharp wing
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Aya sinking makes u hard...

coral wren
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when she screams "i dont wanna be alone"

sharp wing
coral wren
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Before sinking

sharp wing
coral wren
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Im the worst commander ever

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But my ships love me so its ok

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They're just tools to win and rush

sharp wing
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The scum of the shitkicans

coral wren
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If she cnt even help w/rush then i dnt need her

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its why i hate kms the most cuz they focus on defense

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Or usually hve defense based skill

sharp wing
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but faster to kill\

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than others, lol

coral wren
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tbh idk why people even try on pvp w/ tht full kms fleet

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Even a dakota washington combo cn delet dem completely

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Best german engineering ships under the ocean

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They sink so much tht germany built shit tons of subs

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So they're underwater forrver

sharp wing
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oh, last bp for 3rd ryuu droped

midnight heron
coral wren
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Season ending later right

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Where did u finish

midnight heron
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yea

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rush or die

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i might hav to stop tryhard pvp

coral wren
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I got the last bonus yesterday

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So im done

midnight heron
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tryhard to get bonus i mean BuckySmug

coral wren
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why

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R u gonna stop rushing

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What happened to honor and bravery

trim horizon
midnight heron
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time constraint BuckySmug

shy hazel
coral wren
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u dont hve to be rushing in time

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As long as u rush

midnight heron
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rush and lose is same as not rushing

coral wren
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Keep the spirit of rushing alive. You might be on someone's food list

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why are u losing?

midnight heron
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cuz dont hav time to keep reset

coral wren
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Show me ur fleet and ill tell u where u went wrong

midnight heron
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not needed

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u can see my fleet in earlier post anyway

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i just purposely use lvling ships

coral wren
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Smh man. How can u accept defeat just liek dat

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shounen protags usually loses 3-5 times to their rivals before winning

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naruto never gave up n now hes a hokage

midnight heron
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they hav unlimited time in their anime BuckySmug

coral wren
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dont give up. Just keep resetting

midnight heron
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where having 10s left = >5min of talking and shit

coral wren
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dude i was rushing during a date

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wht excuse do u hve

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Porn?

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Watch 2 mins gif on loop

midnight heron
coral wren
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Ok ok but dont accept defeats next season evn if u dont rush on tiem

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god will forgive u

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Our god poseidon

midnight heron
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if its even possible NickySleep

shy hazel
coral wren
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Everythin is possible if u believe in it.

shy hazel
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why re you people being weird again

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as usual

midnight heron
coral wren
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u dont ask "why"

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Ask "when"

midnight heron
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theres no explanation of weird

coral wren
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Are we not weird

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its in the soul of rushers

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Halo if i see u slacking next season ill livestream ur fleet being demolished

midnight heron
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its k SandyMeme

coral wren
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i swer ill upload it to pornhub

midnight heron
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i wanna see how many fireworks my fleet actually fires

coral wren
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smh

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I got u before but forgot to film

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u didnt even make me reset

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Which ruined my day

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Look at ur damage

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"107"

sharp wing
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It's rusher tolerance

coral wren
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Btw how r people lvl 100

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Whats max lvl

sharp wing
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no max

coral wren
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Oh rad

sharp wing
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well, maybe there is

coral wren
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I still hve a life so i cant grind tht much

sharp wing
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I don't grind at all

coral wren
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Havent even reached w11 yet

sharp wing
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I just play more than year

coral wren
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And its been 375 days

shy hazel
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global is currently capped to 120

sharp wing
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i cleared all maps

coral wren
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Maybe when the events chill down

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So i can focus on maps

sharp wing
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Is there cap on CN?

coral wren
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These stupid milestone events just makes me neglect main mode

sharp wing
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this damn 45 battles take whole day

coral wren
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dude

sharp wing
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make that repeat button

coral wren
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I played 3 matches of dota

shy hazel
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iirc cn is capped to 130

coral wren
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And im not even done yet

sharp wing
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ewww dota

coral wren
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like 12 normal, 15 easy

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Hard takes too long

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Cuz im farming ship points

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fk u i love dota

sharp wing
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i just lvl subs and ships in hard atm

coral wren
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Hater

sharp wing
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it's not about game itself, it's about community

coral wren
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Oh nice

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I only play bots

sharp wing
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i rather play w/ bots

coral wren
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Ye

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Who wanna play w/ sea people

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Lol

sharp wing
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russians on eu west servers

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qeq

coral wren
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Ayy

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I play lan w/ my cousin

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shes gud

sharp wing
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qeq

coral wren
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She dont appreciate my AL tho

sharp wing
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back in the days i played warcraft dota map w/ clan

coral wren
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the old wc3 map

sharp wing
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garena

coral wren
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back in 2011

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Kek

sharp wing
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qeq

coral wren
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Yes

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Tunnel tunnel

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O shit no hotkeys

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-swap 6

sharp wing
coral wren
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back when u cn equip cent w/ 6 vg and not die

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So much canser

sharp wing
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well, fucc that crap anyway BuckySmug

coral wren
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Nyway, i never touch dota online play. I dont mind joinin discords like thess however

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is fun and comfy

sharp wing
coral wren
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I can be a moron and relax

sharp wing
coral wren
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Rush rush

sharp wing
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I'm back to commiting sub homicide in hard PortDoll

coral wren
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Mk 4 hrs till our last remaining rush ticks. Ima wake up at 8 n blow it all up

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Bye breh

sharp wing
coral wren
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👌 💦 💦

safe meteor
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you farming crosswave event hard constantly, or till your tickets run out?

sharp wing
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just doing all 15 runs for now

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will probably use tix on hard in the end to get 48k reward

safe meteor
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not going for the 60k?

sharp wing
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lol, for that box

safe meteor
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with a chance to farm for Ryusei gold?

sharp wing
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well, they drop from ex too

trim horizon
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It was a bad idea putting 2 ssr in wish, loli sub is winning the 50%50 vs Centaur

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she's gonna pay for it

sharp wing
safe meteor
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i did something similar to it

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i gona mass pull tomorrow, to also finish the weekly

midnight heron
ripe latch
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think too, to get loli sub need to pay

sharp wing
vague token
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o.o

split marten
sharp wing
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Lol, this was hilarious. Dragon w/ 0 hp, burning for 0, evaded Amagi barrage and 2 salvos, only 3rd salvo managed to damage it and proc final counter

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fuccing 120 RNG

stark raft
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Did it time with rudder?

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shit's so obnoxious, they just say their skill line if it procs

sharp wing
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amagi doesn't sync w/ ruder skill

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and i didn't see her saying anything

stark raft
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what are amagi's timings anyway

sharp wing
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15.81

stark raft
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20-22 40-42 60-62 for rudder

sharp wing
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yes

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only nagato barrage can go into it

stark raft
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RNG just cucked you

sharp wing
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Well, i told that...

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well, nagato also gives 20% reload buff

stark raft
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shouldn't fuck the timings enough no?

sharp wing
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1-2 secs

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it gives ike 31 reload bonus

stark raft
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evading a whole barrage + 2 salvoes is ridic

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cause you also have acc buff from nugget

sharp wing
trim horizon
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die U81 UniYan

sharp wing
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Sandy passed 35%

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And my Rally pps died again...

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I get points like once few days

stark raft
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71k pts with 5 bps

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fuck this and vdir

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I hope they make a plane that powercreeps ryuuseis

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doubt it MakinaSmug

sharp wing
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that would be problematic

blazing scroll
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If I'm on your list, have fun

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Did my AOTN rush

sharp wing
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But we still need t0 barra

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those blackburn firebrand crap

trim horizon
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4 % for VH Armor

stable dawn
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When you sandbag too hard and miss 5 exercises

finite valve
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feel like a running gag by this point when ppl miss tixes cus camping too hard

trim horizon
stark raft
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the only way to lose is vs sleep

trim horizon
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@hot creek have you on list

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3 CV UniSip

hot creek
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kek

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ill switch to a more "sirius" comp if you want to test.

trim horizon
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sure

hot creek
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but it seems we've already concluded that formi/cent don't do much damage on defense. and I feel like if I replace eva equip with catas their survivability goes down the drain.

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but we'll see

trim horizon
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BuckySmug I already know I'll kill you by mistake

hot creek
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do formi centaur still sync up in the current comp?

trim horizon
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let me check rn

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you changed aux ?

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yeah

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they still sync

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almost killed Nagato too kek

hot creek
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its been set to cata/drop tank for awhile now

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rudder/drop tank feels a lot better on offense

stark raft
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You dont all in with x2 catas?

trim horizon
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I wish I had Akagas lveled and oathed

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to see the pov of a casual

stark raft
hot creek
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everytime I do double cata I feel like I do less damage

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might switch to DB / cuda, ill do double cata on centaur

stark raft
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I guess I could do tank/rudder + barras for formi and let her tank amagi

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Since Cent has mid covered with her ryuus

cloud pumice
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what about RWG, wouldn't that be pretty nice option too?

hot creek
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whats rwg?

stark raft
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Shitty SG radar but cv can equip it

hot creek
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lol

trim horizon
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Kiz gear

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so 30 min for def fleet to change ?

silver root
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RWG is probably best for single cv, double cv puts out enough dmg that i feel the hit is overkill

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at least on offense

hot creek
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Anyways, I swapped to QE, it makes formi launch a bit faster which might make the centaur sync not as good as before

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maybe I should forgo fairey albacore

vague token
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i use rwg on essex

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because hitting ykk is still important

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or double tank cl

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sirius helps but isnt a guarantee

hot creek
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i've had mixed results replacing fairey albacore

stark raft
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With x2 ryuu or 1 cuda?

vague token
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ill be trying 818 albacore eventually xD

trim horizon
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still not updated

hot creek
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db/cuda/ryusei

silver root
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MutsukiStare 818

vague token
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fulmar/818/albacore utility tank

stark raft
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I guess cuda for 2nd slot is decent cause it has lower eff%

vague token
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let essex do big damage

stark raft
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I also am running DB now

silver root
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madman

vague token
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embrace the meme

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if only baltimore buffed all cv =////

silver root
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im gonna try double ryuusei when i finish farming it

vague token
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instead of eagle only

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reeee

stark raft
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6 more BP for x2 ryuusei formi

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shit's prolly overkill BuckySmug

silver root
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but the memes

stark raft
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it's gonna look crazy with the 6 plane limit you said

vague token
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just use meme fighter

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so you can reduce bombs

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xD

stark raft
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well Hellcat vs Helldiver

vague token
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does the MeMe take up planes since it doesnt have bombs?

stark raft
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Formi has crazy high Avi no?

vague token
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na just regular good avi

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15%

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her efficiency is the problem

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135 is lower than most specialized cvs

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like hiryuu has 150 on her torps

stark raft
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Wasnt Formi AVI close to enty/essex?

silver root
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i swapped out a reppu for a seafury to stagger plane launch times just in case i hit the targeting limit

vague token
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it will be higher

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she has normal base stat

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15% free boost pushes it higher than essex

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who only gets 5% automatically

stark raft
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Yeah ill give her a seafury + cuda and test it out

vague token
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the main problem is low efficiency and the albacore has a 33% penalty compared to cuda

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135/125 is really bad for a specialized cv

silver root
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also the flood only ticks for half as much as essex

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i think i was seeing 300+ vs 600+

stark raft
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Sea Fury/Ryuu/Cuda BuckySmug

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sounds so bad

vague token
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my essex ticks for 800

silver root
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dat sirius/balti avi

vague token
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yep

stark raft
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what was formi flood coeff

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gutter trash no?

silver root
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cant find any confirmed data for it but i will tentatively say half of essex, so .15

stark raft
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actually maybe helldiver/ryuu/818 lmao

vague token
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eww

stark raft
vague token
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why is it so bad

stark raft
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well atleast the pattern is decent

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hits back 3x

silver root
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warShrug im going off of my testing, yall should test it too

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or we can try digging through the datamine some where

vague token
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my formi only level 95

stark raft
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I cant provide info cause 114 Formi atm

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she came home late BuckySmug

vague token
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give me 3 weeks to 120

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xD

silver root
hot creek
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anyone wanna watch me stream? SandyMeme

vague token
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lol im on mobile sorry

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next time for me ;)

hot creek
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lobby is infested with namagiryuus rn

stark raft
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hilarious LustyBlush

trim horizon
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link

stark raft
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doesnt even scratch my VG lmao

trim horizon
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@hot creek

vague token
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if i streamed al id have a shells caught by vg counter

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xD

trim horizon
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also waiting for your lobby to refresh AkashiSleep

stark raft
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yeah post link

vague token
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just discord stream jk

hot creek
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Something came up, I actually have to drive my sister to the doctor now LongCryland

vague token
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oh, i hope she is ok

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gl

trim horizon
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you almost oneshot my VG

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most of the time

ripe latch
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hiryuuboys

coral wren
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i want cranes to be viable in pvp 😦

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What do you guys put to your Neptune to make it more survive better?

ripe latch
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bulge + IHR

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if front - pearl

elder crane
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oh lol 0.2 flood coeff according to CN wiki
just affected by 120% Airpower
240 base torp, vs essex's 301 damage (0.3 coeff)
yeah numbers add up if you sat Formi's flood is about half Essex's

coral wren
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that's... kinda sad

sharp wing
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and only lasts 9 secs

coral wren
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no point in using that shit other than for sync purposes

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better just to stick with second ryuusei

silver root
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oof

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flooding only has 80% proc chance too

coral wren
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well, gj to yongshi with another useless skill

silver root
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the total damage might still be higher than ryuusei or cuda for PVE tho

sharp wing
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ryuussei doesn't really worth it on below 130% slot

runic iron
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if i have Ayanami, Yukikaze and Jintsuu for vanguard, should i change someone out for Kawakaze?

silver root
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those 6 additional albacores still do torp dmg on top of 80% chance for flood dmg

sharp wing
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Kawaiikaze is not really pvp bote

runic iron
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👌 kawaiikaze will stay kawaiikaze and preciously relaxing in dock then

elder crane
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You run 1 over cuda for sure cause otherwise you don't get the torps either, 12X240

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For ryuus, it's a much better question

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For PvP probably still want one Albacore, but often not in PvE I would think

sharp wing
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for last low eff slot alba is bis tbh

silver root
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i think ryuusei will be more consistent in pvp cause the stationary backline

elder crane
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For PvE Ryuus still end up having better single-target nuke
Barrage and cores are too spread to land a comparable number of torps

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for PvP though suicide damage should make up the difference

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plus floods are better in PvP

silver root
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alba will do more dmg overall but ive seen cuda and alba whiff like 70% of the torps

sharp wing
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barra will do more crash damage comapred to ryuu on 125% slot

elder crane
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Less focused damage though, and affected by AA whittling down HP

silver root
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i will do testing after finishing my last ryuusei warShrug

blazing scroll
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Ryuusei crash dmg is also affected by AA so that doesn't matter

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And ryuusei is "focused", I've seen them miss horribly too

silver root
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6.4% left till yamato armor AtagoHYPERStare AtagoHYPERStare

sharp wing
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1% on Sandy

silver root
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F

elder crane
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Cudas always do more crash damage
You use Ryuus if the extra trop damage, from extra hitrate since most Cuda torps aim at no one, outweighs that
Since crash damage is not affected by slot eff, that means that in general lower eff slots favor Cuda more and higher eff slots favor Ryuus more, relative to a "baseline"
imo 125% eff is still enough to favor Ryuus in most cases, especially since Formi's slow (she doesn't stop for her own strike, only slows) enhances Ryuu hitrate on vanguard

ripe latch
finite valve
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all these CV test which going to get thrown out the window when the great liberator comes

coral wren
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I solve the problem by running two carriers and thus I can use both types of TB.

vague token
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actually cv test will be ok because we can upgrade one to heavy

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so they have to guess whether amagi or cv is heavy armor

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amagi with heavy should be able to stall wskai out a bit

elder crane
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Ehh as I've said before, Amagi with plate is not much different from Amagi with PR rudder vs WSret
and PR Rudder Amagi doesn't stall out WSret afaik

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Plate is really only anti-amagi/Nagato barrages

vague token
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really? damage should drop quite a bit getting out of medium

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against ap + salvos

elder crane
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Rudder provides equally large eHP boost
Med->Heavy vs BBAP/HE is 15-20% eHP, +~8% eHP for the HP stat
PR rudder is iirc ~+25% eHP ignoring the RNG skill

vague token
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oh i was thinking rudder/armor together

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unless it doesnt let you

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those should multiply together pretty well

elder crane
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Hmm
I'll have to see how much better than rudder/Badge that is
but you lose so much damage that way that I still idk if it's worth it
and it only really buys you until 25s when WSret launches again, I think

vague token
elder crane
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For defense more RNG is better anyways cause you don't have 50% winrate there

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if the average is the same

vague token
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hmm hmm, 15% reduced from ap, 18% less from he guns, and 1508 base hp

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and less nagato splash

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you also dont have to stress out about amagi barrage as much too

elder crane
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Wait, isn't this vs WSret?

vague token
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ap is 130 to 110

elder crane
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for vs Amagi/Nagato plate is no-brainer defensively

vague token
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he is 110 to 90

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oh

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i feel like amagi armor vs amagi no armor should be advantage to the armor

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even without a radar

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maybe

elder crane
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Wakaga in EN is trash anyways, I'm calling it

vague token
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i dunno

elder crane
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lol 🍝

vague token
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armor on double cv should be strong though

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formidable/cv/amagi should be pretty bulky

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with lots of utility

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depending on the cv and vanguard

elder crane
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For sure Armor Amagi will outduel nonarmor, even Rudder should do so
question is if lost dmg means you lose enough elsewhere that it's not worth

vague token
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yeah

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like im planning on armor amagi + formidable mid

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which means i can outtrade amagi using cuda torps

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from double cv

elder crane
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I think the amount armor lets amagi outduel though makes her probably worth it

vague token
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and if enemy amagi runs armor too

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they take more from my double cv

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and with triple eagle vanguard (still working on that) i can mitigate my heavy armor weakness to plane

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with say essex as the third

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xD

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i dunno

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meme power

elder crane
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What do you even run for 3 Eagle VG

vague token
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birmingham/balti/juneau

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birmingham has 5 second invuln

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better stall than any other 3rd

elder crane
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5 s *perfect evade

shy hazel
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🚮

vague token
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is it?

shy hazel
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might as well use eldridge instead

vague token
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oh it does say evade

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=(

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ijn bias

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well if enemy vanguard rams usually baltimore has the advantage

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minus sanrui leads

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lol

shy hazel
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np hey

vague token
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ill miss not having sirius =(

shy hazel
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i realize

vague token
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or i could just skip essex shield

shy hazel
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ibuki never procs torp barrage first torp spam of the battle

vague token
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internal cd yeah

shy hazel
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probably got some time spent needed

elder crane
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Torp barrage on iiirc 10s CD

shy hazel
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🚮

elder crane
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starts on CD

vague token
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when will they add hidden cds to descriptions

elder crane
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Same thing with chain torp iirc

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can't double chain torp if you launch both torp salvos too close

vague token
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reeee

shy hazel
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thanks to that its useless in pvp

elder crane
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you still get the dev35 Evasion though

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that's at least not on CD

vague token
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xD

elder crane
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Also chain gun has internal CD as well
although you won't see it in effect unless you really meme it up

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it's short enough to basically never be an issue

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iirc someone calced if you really stack reload aux/buffs and use Louis gun it can come into effect (<5s reload time, including VT and absolute CD)

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but lol at that

vague token
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owo

shy hazel
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when the game asks you to make a choice

elder crane
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Aww I was expecting you to have 0 coin

shy hazel
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roon or useless ijn bb

elder crane
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and therefore the game taunting you

shy hazel
vague token
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i did 2 12 hour freebies, who needs coin

shy hazel
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im padding my fleet tech

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refarming early maps for dupes

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tfw

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i never made an mlb

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bulldog yet

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also mahan

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farming soryuu for a day

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only got 1

vague token
shy hazel
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i need 3 more

sharp wing
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Pleb.

vague token
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managed to sneak aotn

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xD

shy hazel
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scores are too close and low

sharp wing
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Got my 1st Takemaru w/ shit skills... Another skill fodder PortDoll

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Why won't they let us reroll initial talents

shy hazel
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because ur shit BuckySmug

sharp wing
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no u

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reroll all talents w/ lock

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function

shy hazel
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stop being #ENtitled

sharp wing
shy hazel
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+1 only

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poggers

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holy crap wait what

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@vague token

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how many charges

vague token
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i have 3 left

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i hit 10th

shy hazel
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good

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i doubt that 5/10

vague token
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lol no

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im down a fight

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from like 5 days ago xD

shy hazel
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im ending with 93-95

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i guess

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typical season

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i never end at 00-02

sharp wing
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I end in AkashiSleep

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Sandy armor is here

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29%

shy hazel
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sandy strongest plot armor

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i wonder if sandy ever reached 2600

sharp wing
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wonder if my planes be fine if i drop oil tank on dragon

vague token
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who's gonna shoot em down

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xD

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sandy vanguard?

sharp wing
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well

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heavy armor dragon

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dragon scale

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cancer intensifies

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Amagies gonna eat crap

shy hazel
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why does that sound

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like a mecha anime

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in the 90s

sharp wing
shy hazel
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Heavy Plate Dragon Hiryuu

sharp wing
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makes her prone to avi after vg dies tho

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my dragon went in counter 1st in 2 battles

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3rd

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🚮

#

4

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Back to oil tank UniSip

vague token
shy hazel
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o wait

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sandy alrdy has heavy plate unlocked

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avrora pve needs to try harder

vague token
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yeah sagittary mentioned that a bit ago

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xD

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avrora is at what, 37?

shy hazel
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thats the problem when ppl are old

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they be lazy in pve

sharp wing
vague token
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to be fair im holding like 25+ tickets

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ill probably burn them on hard

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someday

sharp wing
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Sandy 28%

shy hazel
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mmm

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i think top10 rn is girigiri

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got alot of the usual people a point higher than me

vague token
shell heron
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Are you gonna rush come reset? BuckySmug

vague token
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if you think you can win

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ill do my 8

shy hazel
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i saw fam and his usual

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99

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guess top 1 is decided alrdy

elder crane
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I suppose dropping total 5 matches in this past week means I can't even hit temp1 anymore AmagiKoff
had a sorta-shot this afternoon but then wifi cut out right during match

shell heron
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7 points behing famine

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Again LaffeyDrink

vague token
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rip

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i could get you 2 maybe

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will you get 2 if i do 8? xD

shy hazel
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still impossible

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its not like the gapp will stay at 8

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assume a gap of 14 points

vague token
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i mean im not getting top 10

shy hazel
#

which is impossible

vague token
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so if cay wants some free points and asks nice

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i can get him some

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;)

shy hazel
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disgusting

vague token
shy hazel
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cay start sucking kiros tootles

vague token
shell heron
#

I would love for you to move 8

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And give me that +2

vague token
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o7

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might take me a bit

shell heron
#

You're also baiting me to move early as well.

shy hazel
violet sapphire
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do people kindly stops pvp aft hitting aotn for the season
or stubbornly refuse and gatekeep others from hitting the rank?

shell heron
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The tryhards wont really affect the casuals. We only move in the last 20 minutes of the season.

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Other than putting out our best fleet for defending

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@vague token was that all 8?

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Only 50 points ahead FumizukiStare

vague token
#

no

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phone died

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was out getting dinner

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plz hold

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phone can only handle like 20 minutes of AL xD

shell heron
vague token
#

almost thereee

shy hazel
#

kiro grand jebaiter

vague token
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somehow despite running all these matches, only 1 minus match

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at the very end

shy hazel
#

you lucky

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or score is too low

vague token
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k done

shy hazel
#

👀

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ty kiri

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time to eat u up too

vague token
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lul

shy hazel
#

u actually in the list

vague token
shy hazel
#

thatd why i was asking about your charges earlier

vague token
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lul