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but I guess not
fucking threw this season so hard GG
really shouldn't have risked it
ugh
Rip
centaur isnt that tanky
her aa is pretty low
she's like sub 300 aa
just has high base evade
dis what I get for trying to train essex in pvp 
goddamint I always get a headache for the rest of the day whenever this happens 
need to stop taking this shit so Siriusly
Time to take a whole season break 
my backline is taiho, formidable and illustrious
which one should be in the center
pretty sure thery're all at the top of the list of tanky cvs
does it even matter
Sandy 45.14
wow
?
you gotta have enty and/or hiryuu on a triple-cv meme fleet for that RNG protection
neither of them pass the waifu test
ur fleet should be safe from akaga but idk how it will perform versus namaryuu
triple cv gets dunked by 2 cv
my only BBs are yamashiro and arizona
and I'm pretty sure neither of them are a better option than one of the CVs
anyways taihoe should be the tankiest among those three
reee yandere is the polar opposite of hoe
oooh
I forgot to think of that equip in terms of pvp
that could be a pretty big deal
fucking christ she's bad enough already
I really need a BB to put in my fleet asap
enterprise just hard walls it
because lucky e syncs up with rh launches and she never takes any damage
usually
if you have a sloooow launch cv
and a fast one
you can get around lucky e
my essex has vf/fulmar/818

the bbs that I want to get but don't have yet are dork, dunkek, north carolina, and hiei
hopefully one of those will be able to fix my problem

wot is ur probllem
NC has no damage, Hiei is Hiei, Dunk beside the preloaded salvo has nothing
I guess we're not going to get a rerun
because apparently the devs hate new players
here we go again 
:p
the fact that you're getting them in the normal pool

WC gear will be in the core shop
what event gear do I need from winter's crown
will it?
yes
no blackburn ?
I mean it's not like those gear a re used anyway
both are super niche planes
more important would be 2nd hpfcr and vf pirate
kek


use hecccats and heccdivers like a fucking casul

y does the guide call heccdiver heccdabber? 
time to invest in subs people


cute subs
TFW no U47 
i got most of them
Im just missing that gold ijn sub
Did they release tht sub with a skull mask yet
Dont think we have her yet in EN
finally maxed all formi skills 
Subs god tier for pve
tfw still regret not leveling dork
shes weird
I know peeps recommend investing on her for w12
But srsly. I cant bring myself to like hms ships
They say monarch would be a pvp god but i dont see her
Its all namagihiryu, all day eVryday
did u say
tfw u eat +9 just to get 100 merit 
Rusher have no right to complain about 9s 
nothing to do with rushing tho

quads are better
o jintsu
rainbow good on DDs cause reload

but for buki would work
you realize in pvp ibuki is useless after first torp spam
shell die asap anyways
just for def harassment
she's actually pretty survivable
anyways gold quad > quint in damage
if it hits tht is
u not gonna hit 5 quint torps and gold quint has T2 stats
well, rainbow quint has same stats as gold quad
aside reload obviously
both T3 same torp
It's actually only other event on CN aside Miksa that had re-rerun

this jebait defense fleet... full skins

well, ye

but he has a lot of ducpes

almost at 10k fp
Well, they are still far from those weebs w/ 100 same waifus oaths

That's dedication
Imagine 100 clevegaes oathed

or the guy who oathed 100 Kisaragis 



can some1 suggest a good hms pvp lineup?
look pins
there is tierlist
Also Cent + Formie + QE/KGV might not be lsited there yet
wats best counter for the hiryuu kai
if there is any?
mirror only counter
Offense having 20% damage reduction gives u over 90% winrate w/ mirror
hmm cent + formie + kgv is atleast on same tier as kgv/cent/mona imo
use enty and pray for 
but idk i dont feel safe with 2 CVs tbh
well im really getting lower winrates if i use qe and no kgv
qe has problems tanking as flag and deals very random dmg

If QE cannot do w/ 2 cv, then she's lost cause

Divorce her and take the ring back
imagine 2 cvs
or just cut her finger with the ring and lock her in basement

Imagine oathing QE
imagine buying qe with medals

Having subs not lose morale, when they sink into event is pretty neat. Wish we got sub auto summon option tho..
gotta farm my kms sub fleet
which of Hiryuu's skills do I train first?
last stand skill
blue then kai skill
no point training other skill if she gon die in 5s
lol, u-101 goes so far forward in boss, that she shoots torps behind boss, just forward
dats y use her as flag
nah, she had bad ASR
i find dat move forward skill retarded af
idk i never found it useful
then she goes off the screen
so for Hiryuu, first I max out blue, then red, and finally yellow skill
ya but yellow skill actually useless unless u run with souryuu
which is rare unless u got no better ship

So far i got only 2 Ryuussei bps from event...
I need at least 3rd
I'd actually like 5 at least
1 locked in pvp
double ryuu ark, ryuu taihoe, cent
Skk
will take forever 
kaga

Unless u just torp meme foxes and fast win or fast reset

But resetting is 
Lol, chaser has 145% torp eff 
Same as Ryuujou
Hermes Kai double 140% slots
Wait, wait.... Bataan has 155% torp eff?

don’t forget that they only have 6 planes slots instead of the usual 8 that carriers have tho
lel, i know that all...
that's not how winrate works
Nah theres a meme exercise WR
if u did couple resets per fight yr winrate below 50%
u can keep it to 100 by resetting
we talk about comps wr, not meme profile scores
comps wr doesnf matter if the fight depends on rng


🤦
Juneu just waste peoples time
Makes fight unnecessarily long
Theres a "stalling" fleet for a reason
tell dat to hardcore def fleet user 
Built to make the attacker suffer
But i dont rlly dislike em
Since i can reset all i want
Fair game
I like to make u waste yr time resetting 
Most def fleets are just namagihiryu w/ yukiaurojints
Well, I only put cancer def because of Ark
or juneu replacing aurora
i have all the time in the world so doesnt matter if u stall

some ppl didn't even know i have 120 cancer before that, lol
u will get higher wr
aya needs buffer
but you would need brains for that 
I have 4 oxys installed on aya and yuki
no wonder u reset 2x per battle, lmao
sorry, 3x
Its 3-10x
dont need defence if ur ships rng dodge everything 
My highest was 23 resets which took 1 hr
but, well, dildos 
when she screams "i dont wanna be alone"

Before sinking

Im the worst commander ever
But my ships love me so its ok
They're just tools to win and rush
The scum of the shitkicans
If she cnt even help w/rush then i dnt need her
its why i hate kms the most cuz they focus on defense
Or usually hve defense based skill
tbh idk why people even try on pvp w/ tht full kms fleet
Even a dakota washington combo cn delet dem completely
Best german engineering ships under the ocean
They sink so much tht germany built shit tons of subs
So they're underwater forrver

tryhard to get bonus i mean 

time constraint 

rush and lose is same as not rushing
Keep the spirit of rushing alive. You might be on someone's food list
why are u losing?
cuz dont hav time to keep reset
Show me ur fleet and ill tell u where u went wrong
not needed
u can see my fleet in earlier post anyway
i just purposely use lvling ships
Smh man. How can u accept defeat just liek dat
shounen protags usually loses 3-5 times to their rivals before winning
naruto never gave up n now hes a hokage
they hav unlimited time in their anime 
dont give up. Just keep resetting
where having 10s left = >5min of talking and shit
dude i was rushing during a date
wht excuse do u hve
Porn?
Watch 2 mins gif on loop

Ok ok but dont accept defeats next season evn if u dont rush on tiem
god will forgive u
Our god poseidon
if its even possible 

Everythin is possible if u believe in it.

theres no explanation of weird
Are we not weird
its in the soul of rushers

Halo if i see u slacking next season ill livestream ur fleet being demolished
its k 
i swer ill upload it to pornhub
i wanna see how many fireworks my fleet actually fires
smh
I got u before but forgot to film
u didnt even make me reset
Which ruined my day
Look at ur damage
"107"
Oh rad
well, maybe there is
I still hve a life so i cant grind tht much
I don't grind at all
Havent even reached w11 yet
I just play more than year
And its been 375 days
global is currently capped to 120
i cleared all maps
Is there cap on CN?
These stupid milestone events just makes me neglect main mode
dude
make that repeat button
I played 3 matches of dota
iirc cn is capped to 130
And im not even done yet
ewww dota
like 12 normal, 15 easy
Hard takes too long
Cuz im farming ship points
fk u i love dota
i just lvl subs and ships in hard atm
Hater
it's not about game itself, it's about community
i rather play w/ bots
qeq
She dont appreciate my AL tho
back in the days i played warcraft dota map w/ clan
the old wc3 map
garena
qeq

well, fucc that crap anyway 
Nyway, i never touch dota online play. I dont mind joinin discords like thess however
is fun and comfy

I can be a moron and relax

I'm back to commiting sub homicide in hard 
Mk 4 hrs till our last remaining rush ticks. Ima wake up at 8 n blow it all up
Bye breh

you farming crosswave event hard constantly, or till your tickets run out?
just doing all 15 runs for now
will probably use tix on hard in the end to get 48k reward
not going for the 60k?
lol, for that box
with a chance to farm for Ryusei gold?
well, they drop from ex too
It was a bad idea putting 2 ssr in wish, loli sub is winning the 50%50 vs Centaur
she's gonna pay for it



o.o

Lol, this was hilarious. Dragon w/ 0 hp, burning for 0, evaded Amagi barrage and 2 salvos, only 3rd salvo managed to damage it and proc final counter
fuccing 120 RNG
Did it time with rudder?
shit's so obnoxious, they just say their skill line if it procs
what are amagi's timings anyway
15.81
20-22 40-42 60-62 for rudder
shouldn't fuck the timings enough no?
evading a whole barrage + 2 salvoes is ridic
cause you also have acc buff from nugget

die U81 
71k pts with 5 bps
fuck this and vdir
I hope they make a plane that powercreeps ryuuseis
doubt it 
that would be problematic

sure
but it seems we've already concluded that formi/cent don't do much damage on defense. and I feel like if I replace eva equip with catas their survivability goes down the drain.
but we'll see
I already know I'll kill you by mistake
do formi centaur still sync up in the current comp?
let me check rn
you changed aux ?
yeah
they still sync
almost killed Nagato too kek
its been set to cata/drop tank for awhile now
rudder/drop tank feels a lot better on offense
You dont all in with x2 catas?

everytime I do double cata I feel like I do less damage
running fighters rn
might switch to DB / cuda, ill do double cata on centaur
I guess I could do tank/rudder + barras for formi and let her tank amagi
Since Cent has mid covered with her ryuus
what about RWG, wouldn't that be pretty nice option too?
whats rwg?
Shitty SG radar but cv can equip it
lol
RWG is probably best for single cv, double cv puts out enough dmg that i feel the hit is overkill
at least on offense
Anyways, I swapped to QE, it makes formi launch a bit faster which might make the centaur sync not as good as before
maybe I should forgo fairey albacore
i use rwg on essex
because hitting ykk is still important
or double tank cl
sirius helps but isnt a guarantee
i've had mixed results replacing fairey albacore
With x2 ryuu or 1 cuda?
ill be trying 818 albacore eventually xD
db/cuda/ryusei
818
fulmar/818/albacore utility tank
I guess cuda for 2nd slot is decent cause it has lower eff%
let essex do big damage
I also am running DB now
madman
im gonna try double ryuusei when i finish farming it
but the memes
well Hellcat vs Helldiver
does the MeMe take up planes since it doesnt have bombs?
Formi has crazy high Avi no?
na just regular good avi
15%
her efficiency is the problem
135 is lower than most specialized cvs
like hiryuu has 150 on her torps
Wasnt Formi AVI close to enty/essex?
i swapped out a reppu for a seafury to stagger plane launch times just in case i hit the targeting limit
it will be higher
she has normal base stat
15% free boost pushes it higher than essex
who only gets 5% automatically
Yeah ill give her a seafury + cuda and test it out
the main problem is low efficiency and the albacore has a 33% penalty compared to cuda
135/125 is really bad for a specialized cv
also the flood only ticks for half as much as essex
i think i was seeing 300+ vs 600+
my essex ticks for 800
dat sirius/balti avi
yep
cant find any confirmed data for it but i will tentatively say half of essex, so .15
actually maybe helldiver/ryuu/818 lmao
eww

why is it so bad
im going off of my testing, yall should test it too
or we can try digging through the datamine some where
my formi only level 95

anyone wanna watch me stream? 
lobby is infested with namagiryuus rn
link
doesnt even scratch my VG lmao
@hot creek
also waiting for your lobby to refresh 
yeah post link
just discord stream jk
Something came up, I actually have to drive my sister to the doctor now 
i want cranes to be viable in pvp 😦
What do you guys put to your Neptune to make it more survive better?
oh lol 0.2 flood coeff according to CN wiki
just affected by 120% Airpower
240 base torp, vs essex's 301 damage (0.3 coeff)
yeah numbers add up if you sat Formi's flood is about half Essex's
that's... kinda sad
and only lasts 9 secs
no point in using that shit other than for sync purposes
better just to stick with second ryuusei
well, gj to yongshi with another useless skill
the total damage might still be higher than ryuusei or cuda for PVE tho
ryuussei doesn't really worth it on below 130% slot
if i have Ayanami, Yukikaze and Jintsuu for vanguard, should i change someone out for Kawakaze?
those 6 additional albacores still do torp dmg on top of 80% chance for flood dmg
Kawaiikaze is not really pvp bote
👌 kawaiikaze will stay kawaiikaze and preciously relaxing in dock then
You run 1 over cuda for sure cause otherwise you don't get the torps either, 12X240
For ryuus, it's a much better question
For PvP probably still want one Albacore, but often not in PvE I would think
for last low eff slot alba is bis tbh
i think ryuusei will be more consistent in pvp cause the stationary backline
For PvE Ryuus still end up having better single-target nuke
Barrage and cores are too spread to land a comparable number of torps
for PvP though suicide damage should make up the difference
plus floods are better in PvP
alba will do more dmg overall but ive seen cuda and alba whiff like 70% of the torps
barra will do more crash damage comapred to ryuu on 125% slot
Less focused damage though, and affected by AA whittling down HP
i will do testing after finishing my last ryuusei 
Ryuusei crash dmg is also affected by AA so that doesn't matter
And ryuusei is "focused", I've seen them miss horribly too
6.4% left till yamato armor

1% on Sandy
F
Cudas always do more crash damage
You use Ryuus if the extra trop damage, from extra hitrate since most Cuda torps aim at no one, outweighs that
Since crash damage is not affected by slot eff, that means that in general lower eff slots favor Cuda more and higher eff slots favor Ryuus more, relative to a "baseline"
imo 125% eff is still enough to favor Ryuus in most cases, especially since Formi's slow (she doesn't stop for her own strike, only slows) enhances Ryuu hitrate on vanguard

all these CV test which going to get thrown out the window when the great liberator comes

I solve the problem by running two carriers and thus I can use both types of TB.
actually cv test will be ok because we can upgrade one to heavy
so they have to guess whether amagi or cv is heavy armor
amagi with heavy should be able to stall wskai out a bit
Ehh as I've said before, Amagi with plate is not much different from Amagi with PR rudder vs WSret
and PR Rudder Amagi doesn't stall out WSret afaik
Plate is really only anti-amagi/Nagato barrages
Rudder provides equally large eHP boost
Med->Heavy vs BBAP/HE is 15-20% eHP, +~8% eHP for the HP stat
PR rudder is iirc ~+25% eHP ignoring the RNG skill
oh i was thinking rudder/armor together
unless it doesnt let you
those should multiply together pretty well
Hmm
I'll have to see how much better than rudder/Badge that is
but you lose so much damage that way that I still idk if it's worth it
and it only really buys you until 25s when WSret launches again, I think

For defense more RNG is better anyways cause you don't have 50% winrate there
if the average is the same
hmm hmm, 15% reduced from ap, 18% less from he guns, and 1508 base hp
and less nagato splash
you also dont have to stress out about amagi barrage as much too
Wait, isn't this vs WSret?
ap is 130 to 110
for vs Amagi/Nagato plate is no-brainer defensively
he is 110 to 90
oh
i feel like amagi armor vs amagi no armor should be advantage to the armor
even without a radar
maybe
Wakaga in EN is trash anyways, I'm calling it
i dunno
lol 🍝
armor on double cv should be strong though
formidable/cv/amagi should be pretty bulky
with lots of utility
depending on the cv and vanguard
For sure Armor Amagi will outduel nonarmor, even Rudder should do so
question is if lost dmg means you lose enough elsewhere that it's not worth
yeah
like im planning on armor amagi + formidable mid
which means i can outtrade amagi using cuda torps
from double cv
I think the amount armor lets amagi outduel though makes her probably worth it
and if enemy amagi runs armor too
they take more from my double cv
and with triple eagle vanguard (still working on that) i can mitigate my heavy armor weakness to plane
with say essex as the third
xD
i dunno
meme power

What do you even run for 3 Eagle VG
birmingham/balti/juneau
birmingham has 5 second invuln
better stall than any other 3rd
5 s *perfect evade
🚮
is it?
might as well use eldridge instead
oh it does say evade
=(
ijn bias
well if enemy vanguard rams usually baltimore has the advantage
minus sanrui leads
lol
np hey
ill miss not having sirius =(
i realize
or i could just skip essex shield
ibuki never procs torp barrage first torp spam of the battle
internal cd yeah
probably got some time spent needed
Torp barrage on iiirc 10s CD
🚮
starts on CD
when will they add hidden cds to descriptions
Same thing with chain torp iirc
can't double chain torp if you launch both torp salvos too close
reeee
xD
Also chain gun has internal CD as well
although you won't see it in effect unless you really meme it up
it's short enough to basically never be an issue
iirc someone calced if you really stack reload aux/buffs and use Louis gun it can come into effect (<5s reload time, including VT and absolute CD)
but lol at that
owo
Aww I was expecting you to have 0 coin
roon or useless ijn bb
and therefore the game taunting you

i did 2 12 hour freebies, who needs coin
im padding my fleet tech
refarming early maps for dupes

tfw
i never made an mlb
bulldog yet

also mahan
farming soryuu for a day
only got 1


Got my 1st Takemaru w/ shit skills... Another skill fodder 
Why won't they let us reroll initial talents
because ur shit 

wonder if my planes be fine if i drop oil tank on dragon
well
heavy armor dragon
dragon scale

cancer intensifies
Amagies gonna eat crap


makes her prone to avi after vg dies tho
my dragon went in counter 1st in 2 battles
3rd
🚮
4
Back to oil tank 


Sandy 28%
mmm
i think top10 rn is girigiri
got alot of the usual people a point higher than me


I suppose dropping total 5 matches in this past week means I can't even hit temp1 anymore 
had a sorta-shot this afternoon but then wifi cut out right during match
i mean im not getting top 10
which is impossible


You're also baiting me to move early as well.

do people kindly stops pvp aft hitting aotn for the season
or stubbornly refuse and gatekeep others from hitting the rank?
The tryhards wont really affect the casuals. We only move in the last 20 minutes of the season.
Other than putting out our best fleet for defending
@vague token was that all 8?
Only 50 points ahead 
no
phone died
was out getting dinner
plz hold
phone can only handle like 20 minutes of AL xD

almost thereee
k done
lul

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