pvp

[elder crane]

Why not just HMS then

[sharp wing]

wsdragons are what like best non event comp

[elder crane]

Pretty sure HMS can be built nonevent

[sharp wing]

if u drop KGv...

[silver root]

isnt ws Kai an event

[elder crane]

Well aside from that

[sharp wing]

cent qe mona something, also u need PR deved

PR is event in itself

[elder crane]

NonKGV wsret is WSret+Monarch+QE/Cent anyways

[sharp wing]

well, technically ws also needs event items

[elder crane]

And you can sub out monarch too for, like, um
WSret/QE/Cent probs

[sharp wing]

as UR retro

[elder crane]

And I'm still skeptical if KGV makes it with WSret

Antisynergy

[silver root]

so the best possible pvp comp for a 100% new account is QE monarch Cent

[shy hazel]

👀

[elder crane]

Probably

[shy hazel]

true hms meta huh

[sharp wing]

Mona on 100% new account

[shy hazel]

wskai monarch ???

[elder crane]

But you'll get event ships before dev30 Monarch

[shy hazel]

realistically speaking monarch is easy to grind for newbies

[silver root]

is it faster to farm foxes/retro bunnies/ or dev30 monarch?

[shy hazel]

all early bb bcs

are hms

[elder crane]

Dev30 isn't

XP is the easy part

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

Prints takes months

[shy hazel]

fyi

[sharp wing]

It's not EXP farm

it's dev

[shy hazel]

reaearch doesnt unlock until lvl 30 i think

shikikan level

[blazing scroll]

Yeah

[sharp wing]

Also for many ppl EXP farm also problem...

[elder crane]

If XP farm is problem print is bigger problem

[coral wren]

wsret kgv antisynergy
What do you mean

[sharp wing]

kgv shall eat vg

[ionic magnet]

farming foxes takes months too

[shy hazel]

wskai monarch qe was meta in jp

[trim horizon]

let's see true tryhard server now

[ionic magnet]

qe is a bait anyways

[elder crane]

WSret Targets main and forces target on main, bypassing VG
KGV wrecks VG
At odds

[ionic magnet]

even putting in hood is better

for proccing hiryuu

[elder crane]

Heh I did foxes in 10d

[blazing scroll]

[zenith tundra]

worse part about reaerch are ship req for a new account way more then lvl 30

[shy hazel]

plebs

[sharp wing]

well, some ppl farm foxes half year

[shy hazel]

i did foxes in 5 days

then farmed copies to mlb

[elder crane]

From starting game?

[zenith tundra]

foxes are 🚮 who cares

[shy hazel]

yes

👀

[elder crane]

That must've been quite the nolife

[sharp wing]

pronolyfe

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

took me 3 or 4 months

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

Well, kgv hits backline hard as well, i think she will do better then qe anyway with wsret

[sharp wing]

average is ~3 months

[ionic magnet]

then they went out of meta 1 month after i maxed them

[blazing scroll]

Took me couple of weeks

[ionic magnet]

[blazing scroll]

[zenith tundra]

i didn't start farming foxes till 3 months

[shy hazel]

hooloo2slow

[sharp wing]

I used foxes only in like Spring

[shy hazel]

i remember i was the first in our discord to have real pvp fleet

[zenith tundra]

weird enough i started maxing foxes because meta sucked

[elder crane]

Still WSret means you don't care about VG
So KGV targeting it early is w/e
And KGV fires too early to get WSret targeting

[sharp wing]

how would u know, here 300 ppl

[blazing scroll]

I remember using HMS in the beginning

[shy hazel]

in my guild discord

👀

[elder crane]

Yeah HMS was the best team before events

[shy hazel]

we moved from another game

[ionic magnet]

hey i got jintsuu first

[vague token]

i mean you could go for both deletes

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

kgv early fire on vg is basically death

[elder crane]

Not that it lasted long enough for ppl to get HMS up

[zenith tundra]

when did u get jintsuu?

[shy hazel]

hooloo rushed jintsuu

2 weeks

[blazing scroll]

Lvl100 hood got you quite far

[shy hazel]

after w10

release

[stark raft]

Blue just raise your kgv

[zenith tundra]

3 days from w10 unlock here

[coral wren]

Well, she also has barrage to help wsret, not a strong one, but still

[shy hazel]

i got in the next week aft that

[stark raft]

you keep doubting

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

Other ships do the main delete better though
Better not to dilute team strat with KGV imo

She might just be OP enough to run anyways

[ionic magnet]

oh i was only talking about our guild dc zack

[shy hazel]

i have kgv at 120

[zenith tundra]

ok lol

[sharp wing]

And never use her

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

guild that stella refused to invite me btw

[elder crane]

Yeah same Jint soon after unlock
Before the dlevel plebs

[shy hazel]

did u see my def fleet alrdy

u can call me true daxam now

[buoyant parrot]

😑

[sharp wing]

I dun come to yr plebserver

[shy hazel]

hms superior fleet

🚮

[blazing scroll]

120 JB is where it's at

[elder crane]

10-5 has meant I've been scrapping Jint quite a bit
I think I'm up to 6 scrapped right now

[shy hazel]

i never do sos

[coral wren]

Oh, you rminded me, to try jb with fromi by replacing qe with her

[zenith tundra]

hms superiror 🚮 fleet u mean?

[elder crane]

Finally got JB maxed this event XD
Just in time for EX

[shy hazel]

waste of time

[blazing scroll]

Fastest barrage in pvp

[elder crane]

Dunk

For that meme

[zenith tundra]

everything else is bad tho

[ionic magnet]

a lv 57 got 8k pts in EX

[elder crane]

Next fastest is Amagi, I think?

[ionic magnet]

[elder crane]

Yeah baited

[vague token]

how much time do we get to do damage for crosswave anyways

[sharp wing]

60 sec battles

[vague token]

oh ok

[blazing scroll]

JB all the way

[elder crane]

5757 pts for me :P

[ionic magnet]

yea i saw you

shouldve reported that cheater but w/e

[zenith tundra]

just meme with nagato and pray she shoots 4 barrages in a row

[elder crane]

60s is not ideal for JB I think
3 salvos, but 410 or Amagi or KGV does that too

[shy hazel]

big brain stats

[vague token]

dork for amp

[shy hazel]

use ranger enty essex

[elder crane]

Can't get 4 salvos with Nagato in 60s, pretty sure

[blazing scroll]

My ranger is only 110

[ionic magnet]

just manual torp

[zenith tundra]

reload is around 15s. with hsfcr maybe?

[silver root]

gonna bring out the biscuit and her 100% chance white shell crits

[elder crane]

Maybe if you run 283

[shy hazel]

its serverwide anyways

[elder crane]

Twin 381 doesn't even do it

[shy hazel]

just use any meme

[sharp wing]

u need personal points

[shy hazel]

use foxes

[sharp wing]

but i think that's ez

[zenith tundra]

if the enemy is medium armor might just use gascogne

[shy hazel]

it will earns u 2 strikes at least

[ionic magnet]

resident avrora farmers got us covered

[sharp wing]

resident tryhards u mean

[blazing scroll]

[elder crane]

Foxes should be able to 3 strikes in 60s

[zenith tundra]

cv can only shoot 2 times in 60 sec unless bad gear or centaur

[elder crane]

Cent probs only other good CV/L that can do it

[zenith tundra]

nagato foxes then for max memes

[elder crane]

Normal BBs probs run twin410 or the like

[blazing scroll]

I wonder if the boss moves

[elder crane]

Nagato foxes torpVG is good enough probs

[zenith tundra]

ibuki aya jintsu vg

[blazing scroll]

If the boss does, I might wanna try formi enty essex

[elder crane]

Ibuki tani aya, maybe?

[ionic magnet]

its easy anyways cos hard mode is lv 100

[blazing scroll]

For memes

[elder crane]

Well tani lead ofc

[shy hazel]

enemy is heavy armor

so cvs deal more dmg

[ionic magnet]

EX is lv 125 tho

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

hmm, that might be a lot of incoming damage

might have to drop dps?

to make it 60 seconds?

[elder crane]

I'll probs just go challenge mode team
Dork/Lusty/Ark/Jint/Aya/Helena

[zenith tundra]

more like u need 3 tanks in vg

[blazing scroll]

If it's like EX, Roon is the only tank I need

Rest can be dps

[elder crane]

Hmm dork or JB
First time I'll have JB maxed

[zenith tundra]

if it is 125 not gonna bother wasting time using 120 ships for no reason

[vague token]

dork has teamplay

so preload vs 12% team damage when you time it

[shy hazel]

jb has foreplay

[blazing scroll]

But I like the big numbers of JB

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[blazing scroll]

[elder crane]

Dork has +50% first load dmg too

So she's actually not far behind on frontloaded dmg

[silver root]

can u get three salvos in under 60 secs with dork

[vague token]

alternatively there's always biscuit who gets auto crits the entire match

[elder crane]

Probs only with 410
But for timing probs mk6/410AP with only 2 salvos to sync with team

[silver root]

2 salvos vs preload JB

[blazing scroll]

Jb does more dmg than dork too

[vague token]

how fast does boss move

dork slow might help?

xD

[blazing scroll]

I'm addicted to the manual crits

[elder crane]

Dork slow can't hit if boss is fast

[blazing scroll]

[elder crane]

Which is hilarious

[blazing scroll]

If the boss moves, I will pull out my Formi

[vague token]

it works well on the wheel trio

[elder crane]

Can't slow reliably when you need it most

[vague token]

since you shoot at one and the rest move into it

xD

[buoyant parrot]

Dmitri Skin is Kinky

[blazing scroll]

Trio works because you miss one but hit the next one

[elder crane]

Works up until one sinks
Then the one after never gets hit again

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

But yeah if I'm doing Helena/Aya/Jint dork is probs better
Enough dmg there for +12% to matter, and Dork times better with Helena

[zenith tundra]

if ex has airspace control i'll definitelly use nakaga

[shy hazel]

en has no airspace

no need to worry bout it

[elder crane]

He's in JP

[shy hazel]

ya

i mean for us

[zenith tundra]

it makes a big difference tbh

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

not only dmg boost but evasion and hit too

[shy hazel]

i dunnid to worry on something we dun habe

[elder crane]

Should matter a lot given enemy is lv125 and I assume high stats

[zenith tundra]

u don't need to worry about it but tbh is en loss imo

[elder crane]

Well it's coming sometime so you should think about it

[silver root]

wut if en doesnt have airspace but its still a plane-heavy boss

[elder crane]

.....so?

[sharp wing]

U don't even need to survive, even if u flag sinks, u win

just go full out

[shy hazel]

just need to deal as much dmg

in 60s

[sharp wing]

it's dps race

[shy hazel]

anyways

[zenith tundra]

if flagship dies 1 sec in u do 0 dmg

[sharp wing]

pls...

[silver root]

so no need to bring AA

?

[shy hazel]

why wo worried anyways

this wont be that hard as ppl expect it to be

[elder crane]

I'll Hiryuu flag if It's enough issue
I doubt it though

[sharp wing]

flag dies 1 sec

then all fleet dies

[shy hazel]

👀

[sharp wing]

insta wipe

[elder crane]

Hiryuu+Birm/Leipret
Done

Got in your chip dmg

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu with yukikaze and juneau lol

[elder crane]

Well that VG is wipable
Only VG pseudoinvuls iirc are Leipret and Birm

Those can be killed by overshooting thres still though

[shy hazel]

newcastle essex wasnt that hard to wipe fleets

why would this be

[elder crane]

Or wait
Time to pull out WaSD again

[shy hazel]

al is still a casual game

👀

[elder crane]

We're memeing if it isn't obvious

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

juneau for boss fights is good especially when ur main fleet takes a lot of dmg

[elder crane]

Whenever she's okay to sink she's OP for 1-btl fleet survivability, yeah

Was my crutch vs Ember for that EX

[coral wren]

are we getting a rerun

Whts this maintenance

[vague token]

new system yo

[sharp wing]

we get new event

[vague token]

plus public raid

[sharp wing]

Time for ppl to for

[coral wren]

Public raid?

We cn now murder people in realtime?

[sharp wing]

u know what raid mean?

[coral wren]

i see a new core data item but its prob just sub trash

Yes. Raid is an insect killer

[sharp wing]

it's pve activity

[vague token]

[coral wren]

Oh like a world boss thing from other meme games?

[sharp wing]

yes

or like any mmo

[ripe latch]

Time to spend gems for yuki

[coral wren]

Club penguin didnt hve a world boss

[zenith tundra]

the battery isn't bad if u don't have sub cats

[coral wren]

Cant wait to let down other commanders in the raid cuz my fleet is built fr rushing

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

It's solo thing tho

u only cucc yrself

[coral wren]

Oh wait what

im already doing tht all my life wtf

[vague token]

like everyone contributes damage and then hopefully server gets enough

to win prizes

[sharp wing]

I think closest comparison would be DC raids

[coral wren]

why cant we have a co op mode with other degens

[silver root]

battery is kind of useless now that we can move subs around

[coral wren]

Oh so basically a server big dick competition

Whomever got the biggest dick wins

[zenith tundra]

it still saves oil for an almost useless aux slot

[coral wren]

Yeah i thought battery is garbage

[zenith tundra]

unless ofc u have too many oxys

[coral wren]

i hate sub equips littering the core data shop

[sharp wing]

if only battery added oxy

[coral wren]

My points is just idling around cuz nothing worth buying

[silver root]

always double oxy

[coral wren]

I do have 4 oxys on my meme torps

[sharp wing]

either snorkel + oxy or double

[coral wren]

Yukikaze with double oxy

its 200 IQ play

[sharp wing]

ded yukikaze

[coral wren]

I basically cucc myself from survivability

[sharp wing]

aya is worse tho

[coral wren]

Best defense is offense

I hve double oxys on her too

And 1 on my belfap

If i could put oxys on amagi i would

[vague token]

unfortunately only vg can equip oxy

[coral wren]

Look im not trying to prolong the match

I just wnt to destroy everything

[vague token]

oxy bbkaga and tirpitz sounds hilarious but nope

[coral wren]

Nah

They need oxys

Everyone needs oxys

Even enty

[sharp wing]

bb have too low acc tho, torps miss 90% time

can be somewhat relevant vs enemy main

[vague token]

i dont think ive seen kaga aim at vanguard with hers

but might be wrong

probably am

[coral wren]

90% miss?

Theres 10% chance tht its gonna hit someone

Like tht 90% ambush evade and u get 2 fail evades

As long as u restart

[sharp wing]

well, also there is the thing torps travel

[coral wren]

Derp throws magnet torps while amagi just sends one directly at the back

Idk about bb kaga

why is BB kaga a thing btw

Has anyone found any use for her

[wispy hawk]

I often use her for 4 IJN buff for Amagi, she's quite good with high output dmg

main reason is I dont like to use Hiryuu without kai

[sharp wing]

Baka is just another barrager

tho rng heavy

But NamaBaka is legit comp

Her barrage is good vs heavy, unlike Amagi

[wispy hawk]

Yea

[sharp wing]

her torps is just meme tho, esp when she fires at vg

[zenith tundra]

yeah amagi sucks at dealing dmg which is why she mvp 60% of the time

[sharp wing]

amagi mvp cause sniping ryuu

and no1 said her damage succ

[zenith tundra]

sniping hiryuu vs hms...

[sharp wing]

she has reduced damage vs heavy

if u didn't know

[coral wren]

Her shelling with double 381 is still strong for some weird reason

[sharp wing]

her barrage vs heavy is almost halved that of med

[zenith tundra]

interesting enough amagi barrage is mostly normal shells just like bb kaga

[sharp wing]

they have diff modifiers tho

cause most barrages don't use standard modifiers

topmost is arcing for both ships

Kaga deals triple to heavy comapred to amagis arcing shells

But they both have Normal

lol

that's listed on CN unstranslatable sheets

KGV's "normal" arcing shells for example have torpedo modifiers, lol

So being normal tells little in barrage

But, yeah, they all have normal

[coral wren]

let's see how many hotfixes will we get this time with a "global" boss

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

2hrs extended main in jp to fix a bug. now i understand why they don't fix stuff

[wispy hawk]

Anyone has seen Shigure kai?

[zenith tundra]

u mean cg?

cn

[wispy hawk]

Yea CN

Her skills are like Yukikaze's one

5% +60% eva for 8s

-5% team dmg

1 ship < 20% hp heal 10%

^ with out Ykkz in team

[zenith tundra]

her retro skin is the only thing good

only worth on hiryui vs mirror

plain and simple heavy armor take more dmg from cv

it takes a lot of fp for ws kai to one shoot amagi

[ripe latch]

heavy owari da

[elder crane]

Vs WSret the aux is not really any better than rudder

You use it on med vs Amagi/Nagato barrages mainly

[zenith tundra]

jb dmg pls.....

and that is manual

[elder crane]

So basically,
Rudder represents smthg like +25% eHP vs WSret
You also get the skill as a nice bonus

The armour gives ~8% raw HP, then about 15-20% eHP vs BBAP/HE from armor type
But now you can be armor broken by AP (although not very relevant without 457)

[ionic magnet]

what calc are you using blue

[coral wren]

hit or miss

[elder crane]

It's no way a significant upgrade over rudder, at least, vs WSret

[coral wren]

jb with formi should definetely hit her shells

[ionic magnet]

cos im using this calc from #gameplay-help and the new aux beats rudder by a bit on amagi/hiryuu/any meds p much

[elder crane]

A bit vs BBHE, yeah
You lose by a lot vs plane bombs/torps, then gain a fair bit vs plane suicide

[elder crane]

And ofc you really cut down on Amagi/Nagato barrages

[zenith tundra]

torp ftw in ex

[elder crane]

What I'm saying is that it's comparable to rudder for vs WSret
Which if your calcs say "a bit better", it's consistent

[ionic magnet]

yea pretty big tradeoff vs torps

[elder crane]

That is, it doesn't represent a gamechanger in that scenario

[ionic magnet]

yea just <500 ehp difference

[elder crane]

Hugely relevant for Hiryuu/Amagi tanking Amagi(or Nagato but I don't see much relevance) though

So basically if WSret+friends was gonna 1shot you through rudder, plate doesn't represent a gamechanger
In CN/JP where the 457 exists even more so, since BBAP (and even more so 457 special AP) is less affected than BBHE and heavy can be armour broken by main gun AP

[zenith tundra]

[ionic magnet]

yea i guess. btw is plane crash dmg affected by armors

[elder crane]

Nope

[zenith tundra]

barely 65% hp

[elder crane]

Neither are fires/flood ofc

But crash bypasses eva too so the raw HP bonus on armour means it's better than rudder vs crash

[ionic magnet]

[elder crane]

Vs bomb/torp ofc heavy is a downgrade from medium, and eva is very impactful

[ionic magnet]

ok so for the million dollar question, would you use it or no

cos i prolly won't on centaur

[elder crane]

I will cause it fucks with Amagi

[ionic magnet]

ah yea i have formie for amagi

[elder crane]

And ofc "mirror is only matchup that matters"

[ionic magnet]

and your hiryuu?

oh wait

you meant hiryuu gets it

[elder crane]

Depends popularity
I'll target Amagi pref on Hiryuu except if everyone runs armor on Hiryuu
Then I'll probs run it on Amagi and amagi duel

It'll be annoying if ppl split it though

[fierce field]

[ionic magnet]

mm makes sense

[elder crane]

Annoying thing is that it'll be hard to tell, maybe

Without actually watching that is

[ionic magnet]

my current comp don't really get affected cos i rely on crash dmg so its w/e

[elder crane]

If you're a CV comp you hope ppl run it and get screwed by plane ordinance

[ionic magnet]

[elder crane]

Nice, free +20% or so dmg buff!

[coral wren]

more reasons to pick cent+formi

[ionic magnet]

pre download is here now btw

[coral wren]

No announcement tho

[ionic magnet]

idk i got 60 something mb update already

with cute loading screen

i mean login screen

[fierce field]

[trim horizon]

[fierce field]

why delete

[trim horizon]

[fierce field]

just put offensive aux

attack is best defense

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

better than rudder

but do you really believe in gameplay help

have you fallen that far hooloolooser

[fierce field]

[ionic magnet]

numbers dont lie atleast

[trim horizon]

[ripe latch]

[buoyant parrot]

how many hours before they announce an extended maintenance?

[wispy hawk]

1 hr left

if no extend

[ripe latch]

rip pool build

[coral wren]

12 hours maintenance

[upper sparrow]

is sandy kai good for replace belfast against akaga? well i use enty essex balty comp rn

[midnight heron]

maint till reset

[shy hazel]

[trim horizon]

Sandy-kai doesn't replace anyone

[shy hazel]

time to lose rounds people

[trim horizon]

Juneau is enuff for AA and Belfast just hard counter foxes

[upper sparrow]

is sandy kai good on pvp to begin with? i still kinda doubt about it

[trim horizon]

[cerulean estuary]

expect annoying sound every 20 secs

[trim horizon]

foxes are not even that a big of a deal, Sandy vs cancer is pretty useless

Just stick w/ Belfast or any other tank

[upper sparrow]

[blazing scroll]

Use Sirius

[trim horizon]

fuck server up

I need 7 more run on FGO

[blazing scroll]

Storm it now

Who cares about FGO

[trim horizon]

flood the server

[blazing scroll]

[trim horizon]

[midnight heron]

lul

[coral wren]

go do pvp now

[blazing scroll]

Rush rush

[trim horizon]

h-have to wish for Centaur and Black Prince

but priorities

right

bunny kai

fuck FGO

[coral wren]

obliterate newbies, wall em, kill em all

[blazing scroll]

Looks like people forgot their attacks before maint

I jumped 400 spots in rank

[sharp wing]

probably other way around, ppl pushed before reset that's why u jumped

Surc skin is ugly

[coral wren]

default is x10 better for sure

[sharp wing]

Imagine some ded server among those dozens of cn/jp servers doesn't reach 0% gauge

[coral wren]

@stark raft imagine if wash doesn't reach 0% gauge

[sharp wing]

commit sepuku

[coral wren]

Ye, will kill kharn and then myself

[stark raft]

wash has tryhards dont worry

[violet sapphire]

oh my god hiryuu retro

its already in my pvp

oh god oh fuck

[sharp wing]

there enough tryhards on wash who wanted to git gut on new server

[coral wren]

spread your buttcheeks as wide as you can, and say cheese

She is coming in dry

[violet sapphire]

jesus fucking christ

[shy hazel]

the hiryuu is now refit

now the race to sl10 begins

[trim horizon]

need golds now

[sharp wing]

lack 4 plates for ryuu skill unlock...

Time to dismantle some cranes

nvm, got 9 messers

dismantle half

new dorm +0 as usual...

[buoyant parrot]

ahahahaha dragon bunny so much fun

[coral wren]

He is losing his sanity, somebody call the ambulance

[vague token]

194 points on first ex

that's ok i guess

i dont have torp squad so cant get a ton from vanguard

xD

[ionic magnet]

cant connect

rip pvp

[vague token]

who'd you use owo

ah

i ran dork/essex/sara/baltimore/helena/sirius

xD

[ripe latch]

play vs yuki 2k exer
@
cannot const here

why game so degen?

[fierce field]

Hiryuu kai debut
against Nakaga

[vague token]

how does your sara do so little xD

[ripe latch]

press f for fox

[fierce field]

bomb prob miss

[ionic magnet]

and why are you leading with ykkz

[fierce field]

[vague token]

like i know why my sara does 13k sometimes, since i have her flag she gets knocked around by big seven xD

[fierce field]

If Juneau lead she died too soon
and Balti can't lead
so

[ionic magnet]

why balti cant lead?

[vague token]

if only i had another RWG for her X_x

i wouldnt advise balti leading without beaver/rudder

[fierce field]

it's Balti

not Sanrui

[vague token]

she's fairly durable for an eagle CA that isnt portland

but since he has eagle cvs she doesnt get the 15% evasion

[ionic magnet]

i havent used her so idk actually but shes expendable anyways yea?

[fierce field]

She's just a bit tanky than Mog kai

about the same as takao

[vague token]

personally, no

i prefer having her last

so she can do damage on main

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

she has AP boost remember

[fierce field]

[vague token]

so she does like 85/120/85

with sanrui gun she does like 400+ on backliners

[ionic magnet]

ok you know your memes so

[fierce field]

85/120/85

not 75

[vague token]

yeah

xD

owo

o.O

i did 200k

that's such a long ways away

=/

but i dont have torp squad so

rip

probably

unless you rolled no crits xD

if i had roon trained maybe she'd be ok with biscuit

too bad no leip retro yet

X_x

[zenith tundra]

bb seem to deal mediocre dmg

[vague token]

need dem AP bullets

[zenith tundra]

i haven't seen ws kai with doy debuff do more then torp vg

[coral wren]

disconnects are every 20 scs, lmao. Nice en servers

[vague token]

i wonder why so many people came back just to beat up suruga

xD

[coral wren]

They don't like elders

[trim horizon]

can you post ur team so I can copypaste

[blazing scroll]

Does the boss move?

[zenith tundra]

quite a bit

[vague token]

she shuffles around a lot surprisingly

i was using 818 on essex though so not a problem

xD

[coral wren]

managed to take down my first hiryuu retro

And claimed top 1 for 5 mins

cant stop the rush

[trim horizon]

what are the comps that reached 300k ?

[finite valve]

after this event ppl going to be swimming in reyuusei lel

drop rate so good

zzz

200k+ you need full sub fleet

jb is a must

can add in dunk if you also have her max

[coral wren]

Hm, there is no way to sync formi with cent while giving formi the helldiver, right?

[finite valve]

VG you can go full torp autism

nope

their reload is too diff

formi with diver is going to make it worse

[coral wren]

[stark raft]

well Cent wants to go first anyway

So timestop can happen while the TBs are homing in

Cent barrage will also start hitting as soon as time stop wears off

[blazing scroll]

My Ibuki is still an ongoing project

[vague token]

working on nep atm xD

[sharp wing]

Even Jint is my ongoing project

My Naka is higher lvl than Jint, lol

Naka best Fox anyway

[midnight heron]

did u say

[sharp wing]

Naka best fox

U want PeeVeePee?

[midnight heron]

no i want peepee

[sharp wing]

Lol, she is really slow

83, lb2 and not max enhance

[midnight heron]

cant retro cuz coin + need dupe

[sharp wing]

used bulin

[midnight heron]

also gonna wishing well for subs lul

[sharp wing]

I dun need mlb elites to get border

I wished for u- something and bunny sub

elite bunny

[midnight heron]

selection too limited

[sharp wing]

cause in light i only need 1 denver

[midnight heron]

same lul

[sharp wing]

But need 2 subs

so

[midnight heron]

i need 3

[sharp wing]

only these i'm missing

[midnight heron]

gonna try ex with lvling pvp fleet lul

so bad lul lucky its only practice

[blazing scroll]

I feel like BB do terrible dmg

My JB doesn't come close to Enty and Essex

[midnight heron]

yea definitely lul

my enty outdmg namagi

and shes 115 while namagi 120

[slender hedge]

Is suryi hyrui retro better then foxes now?

[midnight heron]

diff uses

[slender hedge]

2vs2

Scenario

[sharp wing]

Foxes are used for fast win or fast reset, dragons are slow

dragons are more like replacement of namagi if u missed events

[midnight heron]

cant compare apple to orange

[slender hedge]

Bruh

[finite valve]

i would say dragon is going to win the 2 v 2 just cus invin

[slender hedge]

U just dont wanna

[finite valve]

in team comp however they work diff

[sharp wing]

dragons win due to hiryuu skill in any case, but take long ass time

[finite valve]

yep

for now anyway

[sharp wing]

different purpose

[finite valve]

just wait till foxes kai

[slender hedge]

Example team comp with dragons?

[finite valve]

instant wipe

[slender hedge]

I mean you always gonna hit one time more with foxes

[sharp wing]

that's not enough to kill hiryuu

[midnight heron]

unless u severely dmg their backline in ur first strike u prob lose

[finite valve]

unless exist an aux or skill that bypass invin

[midnight heron]

or at least wipe out their vg

[sharp wing]

now they are fastest CVs

enty is 9 behind

[finite valve]

ws comes not soon enough to liberate us of the cancer that is hiryuu

[sharp wing]

gotta race sl10

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

but wsdragons

and namagiws

and wsfoxes

fast wins are even more fast

[finite valve]

yeh

with ws wins on off is pretty much guarantee

[trim horizon]

anyone can try this on the challenge ?

[sharp wing]

-1 enemy backline

[trim horizon]

my Formi is 119 but I have no Centaur

[sharp wing]

Imagine having 120 ark

[finite valve]

i think the better question is who have a max ark?

[sharp wing]

Also i'd use Taihoe

[trim horizon]

heh

[sharp wing]

lucky rolls

and RNGer

wonder if any got 120 RNGer

The ultimate rolls

[finite valve]

we have a few 120 RNGer

just not in pvp

[sharp wing]

I need to shove my in dorm

[finite valve]

RNGer is not really EX mode friendly

[sharp wing]

Well, u can reroll ex

not this one tho

[finite valve]

we are talking about this one lol

for event EX mode most of the time they lock to BB BC

[sharp wing]

For this one too rng

they usually lock only 2 slots

But u can just use enty

[midnight heron]

lul for dis one if u got bad rng too bad ur ticket already used

[sharp wing]

xD

And if u DC

as well

same as pvp

[midnight heron]

also i hav no idea wat the game means

[sharp wing]

crash during match and t's over

[finite valve]

well unless your point is 200+

[midnight heron]

when they say u can use the ex ticket on the other 3 modes

[finite valve]

whatever tbh

[midnight heron]

like tf theres not even such an option

[sharp wing]

When you are out of those bonus

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

U can use ticket to get bonus

[midnight heron]

lul

grindy af

15 daily per mode

so 45 battle

[sharp wing]

qeq

there only 30 bonuse battles tho

at least that's what help tells

[midnight heron]

where to even see how much bonus u got left

and they dont even try to be clear just how much score u need for ex to be worth doing it

[sharp wing]

I think it will show like 0/15 on 3rd one after u do 30 on other 2?

[midnight heron]

lul doing math

[finite valve]

@midnight heron if you got 120+ then it is worth it?

[midnight heron]

yea but how much dmg is 120+

[finite valve]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/479676955411873802/626834881841987605/Screenshot_20190926-123038.png?width=1540&height=867

this was in trophy

100k is 150

so around 50 60k?

[midnight heron]

math

i think i got 150k dmg on practice

[finite valve]

i got 160k for 166 point i think

[midnight heron]

inb4 i recall wrong and get fked

[finite valve]

i say not worth just cus oil cost

hard you can cut it down

ex need full 120

[midnight heron]

well i just use pvp lvling fleet

[jovial sedge]

random rabbit retro

[midnight heron]

and enty deals like double namagi individual dmg

for reference

[sharp wing]

isn't boss bb?

[midnight heron]

yea

[sharp wing]

Aurora

[midnight heron]

its pvp lvling fleet

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

who has time to change gear just for new content

[sharp wing]

I dun change gear, i have geared botes

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

Pleb.

My def is fully geared and my lvling fleet

[midnight heron]

now i just needa optimise hard fleet for oil

solo enty

[sharp wing]

lol, 83 lb2 taihoe vs 120 dragon

1:2

thicc.... ||procs...||

[midnight heron]

i wanna see when dragon gets lvl 10 skill

already feeling the cancer with enemy lvl 1 skill

[sharp wing]

That's mostly due to statpadding

big reload boost, survivability boost

skill will add some

[finite valve]

might change to cancer if my foxes reset too much

zzz

[sharp wing]

qeq

rushers converting

The power of the Dragon

[midnight heron]

i already had trouble using foxes pre retro

even tho they underlvled

its pathetic dmg

[sharp wing]

The mighty Dragon

[midnight heron]

add in bel smoke and i pretty much hav 1% winrate

[sharp wing]

Use cranes

[midnight heron]

idk if dats gonna help

[sharp wing]

Skk's tenderness will ease yr pain

[fierce field]

I can't get pass 120k

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

just use pvp fleet

[sharp wing]

well, that's what i usually do

cause only 120 fleet

[trim horizon]

oh the Wishing well is till the 16th

noice

😮

[sharp wing]

lotta daily pulls

[midnight heron]

btw do u get xp from event stage lul

[fierce field]

I run Duke + Massa + Hiryuu kai
122k
With Helena Monty Baltimore

[midnight heron]

if u ask me i feel helena isnt worth it for dis event

she can at best giv u 2 procs

[fierce field]

[empty grove]

What is even considered good in this EX

[blazing scroll]

I'm missing my last torp meme so put in Helena instead

[fierce field]

I drop Helena for Mog Kai
Still 120k

[midnight heron]

but if its ur pvp fleet then u dont got a choice either way

[blazing scroll]

So far only hit 200k in practice

[empty grove]

This was my highest so far

& it feels unoptimized

[midnight heron]

hax

[silver root]

gib comp

[fierce field]

[smoky elk]

is it IJn meta fleet?

[empty grove]

I'd probs run better with Ibuki

[midnight heron]

prob torpmeme

[empty grove]

It's IJN torp meme

[fierce field]

Subs with torpmeme?

[midnight heron]

triple cv

[empty grove]

Nah

I didn't call in subs

[fierce field]

[smoky elk]

akaga is good for this, since they quick launch

[midnight heron]

300k without subs

[shell heron]

wait, you can change your comp

[shell heron]

it only let me use recommended comp

[empty grove]

This is pretty scuffed

Hit around 280k

[coral wren]

underleveled formi+cent taking down cancer with hiryuu kai. That's kinda nuts

[fierce field]

Slow with torpmeme

[midnight heron]

legit comp tho

[silver root]

triple ryuusei and magtorp?

[empty grove]

Yeah idk

[midnight heron]

she moves too much

[empty grove]

I'm testing shit

[midnight heron]

triple cv is prob way to go for backline anyway

[fierce field]

It's legit
Too bad my Formi is lv70

[empty grove]

I'll try calling in subs with the IJN memes

[midnight heron]

now i just wanna know wats the highest score

the contribution u get definitely doesnt scale linearly

[jovial sedge]

hmm essex seems bigger in that loading screen by a lot compared to enty

[fierce field]

[sharp wing]

yeah scaling usually not linear there

[fierce field]

I think the record was 550k on CN

Subs carry

[empty grove]

I messed up tho

[midnight heron]

just example from my own 2 accounts

• the other screenshot above:
  110k dmg = 150
  135k dmg = 163
  174k dmg = 180

[empty grove]

& my subs are pretty bad

[midnight heron]

its k i used lvl 100 subs they dont even contribute much

and lul 550k

[wispy hawk]

how the fk he can get to 550k

[blazing scroll]

My I19 deals 20K

[wispy hawk]

3 ironblood sub?

[midnight heron]

he kills boss i guess

[blazing scroll]

Too bad I168 isn't lvled

[midnight heron]

175k is ~33% hp

[fierce field]

600k and u can kill the boss I think

[midnight heron]

im assuming they dont use magtorps

use 610

[sharp wing]

I press advise, it puts Nyaga flank

Now i see

[midnight heron]

its ur highest lvl so ofc

anyway solo enty takes too long for hard

[sharp wing]

why solo

go all out

[trim horizon]

Mine always put Jesus since I don't have anyone else

[midnight heron]

cuz oil bruh

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

my put nanoda bel aya

[midnight heron]

cleared with 42s left and dats with a few lucky e

[stark raft]

my 1:1 for hard is formi + nep

[midnight heron]

if no proc i prob get A rank lul

[sharp wing]

qeq

time to lvl some cvs in event

[midnight heron]

prob wont bother with normal mode

shit drops

life of using nonmaxed ships = waste oil

[trim horizon]

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[midnight heron]

dats some sorcery

u47 mvp lul

[blazing scroll]

u47 has insane torp dmg

[midnight heron]

yea but still outright beating all ur bb

[blazing scroll]

I feel like bbs deal less dmg

Could be me tho

[midnight heron]

not sure y tho

unless they want u to use ap

[blazing scroll]

Modifiers

I saw some guy talking about an Essex boss that had insane air resistance

So bbs would deal more dmg

[midnight heron]

even on hard its blatant (on my alt acc enty 115 bama 95 vg 100+)

might just try 3 cv 1 vg

[blazing scroll]

But do we get a refresh of the 15 hard each day?

[midnight heron]

supposedly

[blazing scroll]

As long as vg doesn't die, you're good

[midnight heron]

they call it daily

sadly with such setup i cant farm roon

[blazing scroll]

Guess I'll use my 15 then

I farmed roon in 7-2

[midnight heron]

i find grinding lower maps to be a chore lul

[blazing scroll]

I'm living in 7-2

Always out of coins

[midnight heron]

i either farm in events or farm in maps with missing ship drops

[blazing scroll]

I still need Choukai, but that can wait

[sharp wing]

I still need Poi, Nico, Nii and ch11+ ships

aside sendai

[trim horizon]

[trim horizon]

I wish I hadn't burnt Shigure

[midnight heron]

tested a few shitty setups and found slow + ryuusei/tenzan the way to go to get more dmg lul

wat u mean burnt

[trim horizon]

♻ =

[midnight heron]

i never burn unique ships

which is y my dock space suffers

[coral wren]

Uhh,yeah, hiryuu kai isn't bringing anything new in particular

[midnight heron]

their retro skill not maxed yet

[trim horizon]

I mean her niche is the 15 invuln anyway

[midnight heron]

40s to 20s extra planes is huge

[trim horizon]

what's the % on Avrora ?

[elder crane]

So far can't do much more than 50% of boss HP
and VG torps are carrying, neither BB nor CV in the EX mode seems to do all that much

I swear they f'd w BB damage somehow

[midnight heron]

lex is slow af

anyway who designed dis popup man they needa be shot

if u press exchange u actually dont exchange

[sharp wing]

maybe it's consumed only upon entering sortie

[midnight heron]

no i tested by exiting

u only use it up when u cancel

[sharp wing]

if u exit it doesn't consume

[midnight heron]

it does

once u press cancel the ticket is used

and u get +1 attempt

so even if u leave

it shows 1/15 instead of blank space

[sharp wing]

well, ye

i mean

canceling non ex doesn't use anything up

[midnight heron]

yea but problem here is the misleading af popup

[sharp wing]

well ye

[haughty latch]

I can't get much more than 100k with my 120 hms fleet

[sharp wing]

CVs?

[haughty latch]

Hood QE WS

[sharp wing]

Bbs doesn't look to work good

use Cent and other CVs

[midnight heron]

idk how but someone managed to kill boss with bb fleet in cn

[haughty latch]

Form isn't even 100 I don't think my cent much above 105