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def already has the benefit of nonsense rng sometimes so i think it balance out
Not even a +1 this reset 
can anyone recommend me a USS-specific team for PvP?
The teams that come to mind are EssexE or Sodakshington. I can't imagine either of them are stellar nowadays espeically with Hiryuu kai around the corner.
Both are good against Nakaga though.
yeah, now PvP will become more like a burden to me
i can think of either well-known WASDET. (Washingto+SouthDakota+Enterprise) or SAESET. (Saratoga+Essex+Enterprise)
2 eagle cv with amagi is better 
no
EssexE was known to wreck nakaga back when they were JP meta.
I think they used Sodak as third tho
hm..zawarudo ensnared and finished VG off in quick succession.
3 CA 
rip kiro
what was once a surviving Yukikaze (lv115) got zawarudo and -censored- by bombs and torps in that smokes 

finally got that extra 0.2 seconds
https://puu.sh/Eknbt/88c015be20.png
my formi zawarudo still mid of lvl 9
mine is stuck at lvl118 
got wiped by goddamn 4 procs-in-a-roll Enty 
my Formi lauch last so all aircrafts from Sara and Essex already releasing their loads when enemy got zawarudoed in place
(however, if enemy VG survived that zawarudo onslaught, then i'm screwed instead
)
helldiver so usless vs yuki 
helldiver has highest chance of hitting her
because bomb size affects base hit rate
in addition to the radius
doesnt matter
what i assumed was : hell diver 1x100lb+1x2000lb = 2100lb , while btd destroyer 2x1600lb = 3200lb 
heccdiver is about 50% more damage than btd adjusting for hit rate advantage
my bad
also, since it is larger, speed doesnt always dodge it

there will never be a better dive bomber for damage than heccdiver
unless we get a gold version
or they get some crazy power creep or something
i would like a fast plane with 1 2k bomb though
xD
fine, i guess i'll rearm all carriers back with helldivers 
better kill with enter and btd 
dem
that feel when even bullin mk2 is more popular than duke of york
what went wrong
bulin "is more useful" than Dork , ehh
?
In her own way, i guess you could say that, yeah 
all my votes go to dork this one 
I wish she had a story arc, dunno tho if they add stories for ships in perma pool nowadays
DoY story? 
tbh, when i first saw DoY, i thought she's from Code Geass
i dont srsly understand how en ppl think
well there are some secret nazis that loves bismarck
but i dont understand
baltimore

tbh, when i first saw DoY, i thought she's from Code Geass
I couldnt really tell if she was an enka's creation at start
As for bismarck, well, ppl from en love big e clones
in both look and boring personality
But baltimore is weird indeed
and Sabaton
wehraboos
Well, i can tell already that both allies and soviets also loved him
especially since he was the main reason why 3rd reich lost the war
uhm
that is not accurate
3rd reich never really had a chance when they took on people with 5x stronger manufacturing base than them
well, idk about what other ppl think of Balti, but for me, the resurgence of Eagles-CV are credited to Essex and Baltimore
doesn't matter how good their individual small victories are
they will eventually run out of shit to throw at the wall
I can go on and on about that topic, but wehrmacht had all cards in their hands. There is a reason why they tried to assasinate that austrian painter many times
At the very least, they could come out if not as victors, but not as losers. They already wanted to negotiate after france got it's ass kicked, tho i'm not sure if allies would agree on their terms after dunkirk
a germany whose entire war effort focuses on hhow the rest of the world is inferior to them is not a germany that is going to seek peace
eh, baltimore's boost isnt as good as sirius still
the hit rate is more useful
i might sub portland back in xD
the issue for hitler is that britain is not going to accept peace
PvP irl
dunno they went 3 way
generally germany doing much of anything pisses britain off

You are confusing nazis with wehrmacht. Wermacht didn't really intend to keep fighting the allies but they didn't have the choice. I know ppl like the "one size fits all" approach. Also, perhaps even hitler was hesitating during dunkirk intentially letting brits to escape in order so he could negotiate with them, but too bad for him. Should have known better when his advisors were telling him how to get out of situation like this, but it's hitler who was notorious for not letting his generals do their job.
yes, hitler is notorious for not letting his generals do their job
which is why you want to keep hitler in power
so that he brings down his own war machine
@still minnow don't get too confused tho
The german generals were great in strategies but a war revolves about more than just the battles
The fact that most of the german logistics was done by horse says enough
Well, you cant say no to a painter who has his pocket secret police who will lynch you for treason like they did with rommel
Well, think of their position this way. They conqeured most of europe. Their eocnomy is based entirely on raiding. They need oil.
Britain won't accept peace because it's britain, and the closest oil is in russia
they are literally fucked
there is no play that will win them the war from that point
if they keep fighting britain they run out of oil and they lose the war of attrition
Well, hard to tell. If they didn't masscare brits in dunkirk perhaps they could come to an agreement.
if they invade russia they're in a 2 way gangbang
Waging war against the entire world is never going to end well
I highly doubt it
germany doing much of anything pisses britain off as I said
for britain to accept peace germany would have to liberate all the countries they invaded
especially after america joined the war
without america germany had a chance against britain while buying russian oil
but america joined and now britain had the entire production base of america behind them
the writing is on the wall
it's simple math
1 tank cannot win against 50 tanks
Well, they fucked up not realizing in time they could get oil from the middle east in no time without opening an eastern front
youll see alot of historical fights there
any war's casus belli is crap anyways

imagine
world war 1 started because the austrian whatever was killed
are youi forgetting that britain literally had an african campaign to stop them from doing that: no matter where they go or what they do britain is fucking with them, and it's not accident
Did you know ww1 was kinda a revenge thing too
There was a french german war earlier
Which the French lost

It was too late at that point, should have gone to iraq and take take brit's shit. Hitler just had to negotiate with mussolini.
I think I read somewhere in past that fleet tech doesn't apply to exercises. Anyone knows about that?
it wasnt meant not to apply
but it applied anyways
because of spaghetti code
it works on offense apparently

ok thx. I wish it worked normally so I could nolife my fleet into greatness ๐
I don't think such small bonuses would help you that much
Well, every penny counts
And being a torp meme user I could use all those hp bonuses for DDs
I doubt they'll make a rerun only for EN
fw rerun brings hcfr
yeah ikr but
for JP/CN it'd be the oldest event, so they'll probably just add it in Memory event like w/ DC
they didn't get a 3rd rainbow mag
I mean I can totally see it, when they'll add the memory system for EN with DC/WC/VDiR and FW already in it
Hm, is fw rerun our next closest event?
I was anticipating mikasa, but it seems we won't see her anytime soon
last year
Well, not that she is any good anyway
They stated Mikasa it's on October so early October I guess ? I mean EN calendar is fucked anyway
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
where did you get that retro thing, lol
It was from the Iowa offline event
anyone know how it works the archive thing ?
It has a cooldown on how many run you can do per day ?
How good formi for pvp?
not so good it seems
i'm waiting for phoenix to brag about his success with "hms foxes"
she's atleast on par with monarch imo
with kgv and centaur being the "cores"
still need to max her tho 
Fleet tech doesn't apply to offense, but did to defense, idk if it's fixed
And fw was already rerun, we might never get re-rerun
they prolly tweaked that
These guys want to play me...
cos my fp is always slightly lower from peeps getting me on their lists
Soulmates
I'm already -3 tix 
I get gensui even w/ -11 np so who cares

What's current fgo event?

Tbh these events distract me from my PC gaming 
I'm tempted to buy rainbow KMS boxes from core 
What if i get gold quads 
I mean rainbow
I have 12 messers from those boxes, probably scraped few, 11 105, 3 380, scraped rest, 14 prinzguns
i keep getting prinzguns and messers
at least they are free plates 
why i even keep 14 prinzguns... stat padding


better than cranes

free rare
U dare?

i'm at almost 45k w/ 7 bp
Most bps drop from boss, elites droped 1 only
no im not farming that gun
i need gold fast for upcoming kais

hey it looks pretty
thats my biggest reason to want it
lol
o wait
only 47k
im wondering
wth did they even
put 10 blue cats in the exchange
who needs that trash

good for enhancing
need 2.5k more to clear shop



my ibuki dev 30 soon

same
my defense
The Kraken
maybe ill buy the skin

ny skin looks a lot prettier tho
its fat tho
i have her l2d

this one prettier
yea
Flex l2d
Ichubby
i just oathed too many ships lately
buki more like qt
i need to 200 affection warspite sandy and formi
now i need to 200 affec ibuki

funny thing is i realize
She's no chubby
i was grinding ryuu aff for like months
she gets mvp seldom cos shit dmg
still not 200
kai should make it better
I only run her HM and dailies
i need to farm for souryuu copies too
i never use bulins anymore
on non limited ships
jacking up my fleet tech
lol
for w13 prep
just buy for merits
how many merits you got now


thats only 40 purins
almost 250k
not even enuf
halfway to quit
to mlb all my ssrs

i still got a bunch of ssrs i didnt mlb
i have over 20 purins in dock
they never go below 20 lately
i finished this event build

now i need bitch on light really
got formie dupes even
waiting Essex class banner
For Centaur spook
i need choukai still lol
havent touch 12-4 yet

i mean 24/7
gotta keep that research supplied
this game is unplayable if i stop 1.2k comms
i did overnight too
need funds for my gear skins
i would be on my 4th pr now if i didnt stop doing 1.2k oil comms
when i was grinding pr ships
I casually did all 6 month ago
not stopping 1200 
just grinding dailies and sos
and events when they happen
idk im still lazy to do sos
Also it was pretty fun
using some setups
im like
i got 2x each, and 3rd uss

last time they put sonar bps in event maps
Already built 2 and they keep raining

oh yea
i farmed 2 advanced charges there
Iris droped 550 torps
but they are crap
worst purple torps after 30 sec torps
funny how homing kms torps are best dps also in each color category
on top of being best due to homing
Tho i guess uss ones better for weeklies due to bigger burst
and how each nation's torps in same color better are lower tech ones
like purple t2 always better than t3 of same nation
I'll just wait for the event that drops gold torps 
2k25


I just want event w/ homing quads...
fuccing boxes are scam
Hoped to farm them during biscuit, but they said NO
DC rerun should be soon
i want hfcr more
But we already had rerun
only thing im missing to join cool kids


oh that too
ultimate fighter-bomber
fk FW is too good
yeah, best stuff in one event

you know who's the best girl of FW?

oh for once we agreed on something


lmao

end game is waifu fleet anyways

I am thinking about trying Essex/Formidable/Enty + Monty/Laffey/SanDiego setup to counter foxes (Kaga/Nagato/Akagi)
would it be any good?
dmg reduction from Essex would actually be usefull?
You can counter em by just putting belfast into any setup from the pinned tier list
And with 3 CVs setup you would like some dred(nanoda) and/or heal Junie
is kgv good in pvp
idk shes at lvl 90 for me rn
nt sure if I wanna full lb
I liked her for pve from very start, she is very consistent

hope theydon't fuck with this
They really push it all fast
rip so no more rerun? lul
no
FW was already Rerun
wtf u talking
only event w/ re-reruns is Mikasa
but it's build event
Same as Sirius
great so we only get 1 fcr 
1? you mean zero
and quite possibly 1 rainbow torp as well

wait wheres ykkz
ykkz is later
so i guess we wont be using their pvp tierlist forever 
it's og run

Nanoda and Mogamin are rerun ships
we get og for now
how they gonna deal with u47 and shit then
same as when they added ships to perma, they added only OG 1st
feels a bit like a slap to the face
u-47 is rerun
yea but when we were doing their "rerun" we didnt hav subs
we did kinda a mix
that's why we didn't did rerun versions
u missed ships? too bad
on EN
gl pulling in normal build pools
cause subs and crap
hope for another wishing wells
or full SR tickets
U can get all ships from archive thing tho
they drop from maps
if u lucky and if its a map drop
so i can still get z46 from there but i cant get sirius
aside those core ships
srs are ez
Elite would be problem
Well, technically, EN event is called Divergent chessboard, so we can get rerun of actual EN event w/ subs
We got Opposite Colored rerun ships in it without subs
Also iirc EN version had different EX thing
Opposite colored ?
We didn't fight other players ships right?
Like it was in OC event on cn/jp
So it's kinda legit for rerun EN event
Also we got only og jp run exchange shop, rerun exchange has some extra asw/sub event exclusive items


U talking about waifus
Oh yeah yeau 
dats y its confusing af how they gonna handle such situation
As i said, EN got exclusive event version, not rerun
So we can get rerun
technically
But will yostar go out of their way for EN???

exclusive En event rerun
i want rerun just so theres rate up 
Hfcr
F4u
forget it 
EN the unwanted child
hsfcr and vf-17

is fw
JP had only rerun ver
Only CN got OG run
EN/JP/KR only got global rerun
cn got 2 runs
i keep telling u

Rerun was new for every1 aside CN
That's why CN pvp is unique in a way of 2 HSFCRs
IDK if u get event gears from Archive thing tho
Whatโs this
30 fp + Faster shot vs 15 Eva
stack?
skill dun stack
one per boat
u get 2 bbs w/ faster initial strikes
naga + amagi hsfcrs

that was a thing
emphasis on Was
well, that is a thing
I mean CN is only one
idk if jp already has that event in archive
which one ?
fw
Not yet
then still no for JP
they should just add rainbow torps, pirate squad and hsfcr to research/core

138 has been out for how long in jp/cn?
Purchasable w/ gems
they just got rerun during our run
so like a year
OG run in july 2018
exactly year
I mean, if they already put reppus and ryusseis
and useless french torps
But not Mle
yea it kinda sux we dont get same gear just cuz our servers start at diff time
but at the same time they also wanna catch up to content so lul

archive ?
archives yea
vdir is fine cos we got og and rerun versions
but if they put fw straight to archives..
FW or riot 



the shop ones
ah ok
maps already drop all event ships
or maybe there shop too

also treat it as a daily since runs are limited
dunno how much time you have to farm it per day
later on u gonna pick
From build during her event probably
I started from very Sandy start
I was cradled by the Zoo when i started out 
My PoW still not MLB after a year

Oh, we actually have wiki page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/War_Archives
War Archives allow players to revisit old event maps for farming of equipment and ship drops only. It can be accessed on the attack screen on the bottom right, next to the hard mode button.
Lol, maps have OG droptables...
and u can get only map drops
And the ships on news banner are for permabuild
and core shop
eh?
ye?
yea ik
All skins we got at that event tho https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460647532079349760/557625457831313409/patch_2.jpg
Lulu skin discount
u succ 
tsk tsk. Not a single one of you has a 120 Formidable and yet already making negative statements on her. I am disappointed in yall.
lulu is way better than zara in every way except for the part where her default skin is her best skin
idk who's been drawing lulu's alt skins but they're all really bad imo
lulu is useless tsun 
she doesn't insult you not even a single time
didn't say that she isn't tsundere
but she's like 10% tsun 90% dere
...which is the optimal ratio to have
more like 50%
no

well, looks like 50/50

tsk tsk. Not a single one of you has a 120 Formidable and yet already making negative statements on her. I am disappointed in yall.
Ppl don't want to be stalled by sheff and yuki
Except you don't get stalled by sheff yuki cause their backline all dead anyways
What was your wr against that one cancer setup anyway? It seemed like you had some troubles, but what was it like for real?
Hey, u don't have 120 Wasd and say it's shit 
Their VG was pretty tanky but it doesnt make much a difference. If anything, not wiping enemy VG on first airstrike is more desireable so your own VG doesn't get blasted by BB aux.
Then both their backline and VG are weakened signifigantly and get finished off by the next airstrike.
Sometimes their Nagato already dead by first airstrike cause ryusei skips over the VG and snipes her lol
Hm, interesting. well, i will be using them next season when i'm done raising taihou.
Just not sure if i want to amplify their dmg through sirius or aurora
you said they are fine without them, which should let you have more tanky setup
Like running foxes w/ stall vg
I mean honestly. Foxes amagi probably gives you similar winrates.
but last time i tested them at 110, it was around 50% which is a lot lower than what I'm getting with Formi/Centaur right now.
at 120 its diff matter
nakaga can reduce yr cancer to ryuu in counter on defense
I imagine on offense...
Amakaga def is nothing
just a joke
any fox fleet on defense is a joke
do you even have amakaga at 120?
I'm just going to base my experience off what I tested at 110 because your statements are no better if you haven't tested them yourself at 120.
nakaga hurts cause i dont run smoke and big seven after fox slow is usually a vanguard wipe unless rng
you got foxes at 120?
when it has such HUGE difference
it is relevant
Also at 110 Amakaga was inferior to Nakaga
idk what u talking
the fact that you are judging comps based off their defense performance LUL
and no, Nakaga is trash vs Namagiryuu
Amafoxes better win rates
sure
i have more problems with defense nakaga than amakaga
because they have more punch
amakaga is too wishy washy
yeah
and doesnt buff torp vanguard
Amakaga can't do shit on def, while Nakaga reduced yr cancer to ryuu in counter, that's obvious difference
Don't be ignorant
dude...
When thing does 0 on defense and other thing does great job
it makes difference
if it gives such huge difference on def, it makes such difference on offense too
dude nakaga doesn't do a "great job" on defense in the first place. The only reason why nakaga is worth anything on defense is cause they can do some damage and with RNG they can ocassionaly snipe a backline or wipe VG with torp memes.
Nakaga offense is too squishy to deal with Namagiryuu
vs cancer they do tho
I keep telling u obvious facts and u ignore them, lmao
yeah gg
vs Namagiryuu, Nakaga has lower winrates than ama foxes.
U tested it?
i remember blue also had more success with amakaga against cancer
Already told you during the 110 era I tested extensively. Nakaga is hot fucking garbage.
no I haven't but I'm willing to bet its the same shit.
We have plenty ppl here w/ 120 Akaga, they can test
the thing with nakaga that amakaga is that big seven can force 2nd strike onto main, amagi cant do that because her barrage doesnt clear your vanguard
with even 2 torps from jintsuu your vanguard is already bleeding before first strike
add in 818
vanguard that isnt belfast is crippled or dead before big seven hits
big seven cleans up the rest
and of course whiffed torpedos have a chance at nuking your backline
Naga buff scales
well, debuff ye

destroys any non-meta vanguard in 1 shot
IF she wasn't a loli...
or at least 50% damage

Imagine we had KC Nagato

and she doesnt get 15% free damage for existing like jintsuu does
well
which basically counteracts the defense penalty
buff stacked on crits
well, jintsuu gets larger advantage the more cl/destroyers you have
vs selfish ibuki
the medium armor isnt an issue on torp squad
na, if you're true torp meme
you're already going for vg wipe
so medium armor would actually be advantage
because she would push to main
and medium armor with her ijn ca evasion
armor is last thing u should care about
and at max fate she gets that eva after torps
ibuki's other problem is lower hit than jintsuu of course
lmao
or use
shield to tank first torps salvo
problem is it tanks only 2
and 8 more from other ships
that shield skill is legit lul

But it's %
Its 2 shields blocking 2 each tho, so 4 in total







