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ionic magnet
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but you need bullshit mechanics in def

vague token
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or huge stats

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xD

midnight heron
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def already has the benefit of nonsense rng sometimes so i think it balance out

shell heron
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Not even a +1 this reset LaffeyDrink

coral wren
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can anyone recommend me a USS-specific team for PvP?

hot creek
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The teams that come to mind are EssexE or Sodakshington. I can't imagine either of them are stellar nowadays espeically with Hiryuu kai around the corner.

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Both are good against Nakaga though.

coral wren
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yeah, now PvP will become more like a burden to me

smoky elk
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i can think of either well-known WASDET. (Washingto+SouthDakota+Enterprise) or SAESET. (Saratoga+Essex+Enterprise)

shy hazel
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uss has always been Wasda or Wasde

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lol

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3ple cv is the new meme in the cornor

vague token
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2 eagle cv with amagi is better SandyMeme

ripe latch
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no

hot creek
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EssexE was known to wreck nakaga back when they were JP meta.

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I think they used Sodak as third tho

smoky elk
ripe latch
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3 CA FumizukiStare

ionic magnet
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rip kiro

smoky elk
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what was once a surviving Yukikaze (lv115) got zawarudo and -censored- by bombs and torps in that smokes FumizukiCross

ionic magnet
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we got a better memer in town

vague token
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my memes are still built around amagi so

trim horizon
hot creek
smoky elk
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komi_shook3 my formi zawarudo still mid of lvl 9

trim horizon
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mine is stuck at lvl118 BuckySmug

smoky elk
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got wiped by goddamn 4 procs-in-a-roll Enty LongCryland

shy hazel
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lucky dog moment

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+1 so fast

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now i can just rush

vague token
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sara with double heccdiver is slow enough to go after lucky e

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xD

smoky elk
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my Formi lauch last so all aircrafts from Sara and Essex already releasing their loads when enemy got zawarudoed in place

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(however, if enemy VG survived that zawarudo onslaught, then i'm screwed instead JeanDead )

ripe latch
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helldiver so usless vs yuki PortDoll

smoky elk
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^ ikr LongCryland

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recently i just try btd destroyer instead, not sure if it's better yet though

ripe latch
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enough

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1-2 owari da = die

vague token
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helldiver has highest chance of hitting her

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because bomb size affects base hit rate

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in addition to the radius

ripe latch
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no , spread damage so big

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and FP

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low

vague token
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doesnt matter

smoky elk
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what i assumed was : hell diver 1x100lb+1x2000lb = 2100lb , while btd destroyer 2x1600lb = 3200lb Thinkpitz

vague token
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2k bomb has like 10% more hit rate

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than 1k

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nope

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also heccdiver is 2x500 + 2k

ripe latch
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hit rate 500 damage or hit 1200 damage with btd

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120lvl yuki with oath ignore diver

smoky elk
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oh right

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2x500

vague token
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heccdiver is about 50% more damage than btd adjusting for hit rate advantage

smoky elk
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my bad

vague token
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also, since it is larger, speed doesnt always dodge it

ripe latch
vague token
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there will never be a better dive bomber for damage than heccdiver

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unless we get a gold version

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or they get some crazy power creep or something

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i would like a fast plane with 1 2k bomb though

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xD

smoky elk
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fine, i guess i'll rearm all carriers back with helldivers GneiGlasses

ripe latch
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try runs 10-20 to kill yuki with divers - not enough dmg

vague token
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she still has her skill anyways

ripe latch
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better kill with enter and btd BuckySmug

coral wren
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Dis bitch stealing my no.1 spot

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Im so mad

smoky elk
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MutsukiCurse dem

coral wren
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that feel when even bullin mk2 is more popular than duke of york
what went wrong thonk

smoky elk
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bulin "is more useful" than Dork , ehh BulinWat PurinXD DorkHeart ?

coral wren
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In her own way, i guess you could say that, yeah FumizukiStare

vague token
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all my votes go to dork this one DorkHeart

coral wren
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I wish she had a story arc, dunno tho if they add stories for ships in perma pool nowadays

smoky elk
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DoY story? DorkHeart

shy hazel
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do you know whats more dumb

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baltimore being 2nd place BuckySmug

coral wren
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MutsukiCurse say what

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oh fug

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she is

smoky elk
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tbh, when i first saw DoY, i thought she's from Code Geass

shy hazel
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i dont srsly understand how en ppl think

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well there are some secret nazis that loves bismarck

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but i dont understand

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baltimore

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coral wren
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tbh, when i first saw DoY, i thought she's from Code Geass
I couldnt really tell if she was an enka's creation at start

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As for bismarck, well, ppl from en love big e clones AkachanSmug in both look and boring personality

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But baltimore is weird indeed

smoky elk
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and Sabaton

shy hazel
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nah

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its just the fact that

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alot of people love hitler in secret

still minnow
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wehraboos

smoky elk
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or

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adore german-efficiency-and-meme in general

ionic magnet
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i stopped caring about votes when i saw baltimore 2nd

coral wren
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Well, i can tell already that both allies and soviets also loved him topkek especially since he was the main reason why 3rd reich lost the war

still minnow
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uhm

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that is not accurate

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3rd reich never really had a chance when they took on people with 5x stronger manufacturing base than them

smoky elk
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well, idk about what other ppl think of Balti, but for me, the resurgence of Eagles-CV are credited to Essex and Baltimore

still minnow
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doesn't matter how good their individual small victories are

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they will eventually run out of shit to throw at the wall

coral wren
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I can go on and on about that topic, but wehrmacht had all cards in their hands. There is a reason why they tried to assasinate that austrian painter many times

still minnow
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definitely not because he was murdering jews

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definitely not

coral wren
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At the very least, they could come out if not as victors, but not as losers. They already wanted to negotiate after france got it's ass kicked, tho i'm not sure if allies would agree on their terms after dunkirk

still minnow
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a germany whose entire war effort focuses on hhow the rest of the world is inferior to them is not a germany that is going to seek peace

vague token
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eh, baltimore's boost isnt as good as sirius still

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the hit rate is more useful

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i might sub portland back in xD

shy hazel
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hitler wants to make peace after france was gobsmacked and focus on papa stalin

still minnow
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the issue for hitler is that britain is not going to accept peace

blazing scroll
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We're discussing history now

trim horizon
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PvP irl

shy hazel
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dunno they went 3 way

still minnow
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generally germany doing much of anything pisses britain off

shy hazel
coral wren
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You are confusing nazis with wehrmacht. Wermacht didn't really intend to keep fighting the allies but they didn't have the choice. I know ppl like the "one size fits all" approach. Also, perhaps even hitler was hesitating during dunkirk intentially letting brits to escape in order so he could negotiate with them, but too bad for him. Should have known better when his advisors were telling him how to get out of situation like this, but it's hitler who was notorious for not letting his generals do their job.

still minnow
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yes, hitler is notorious for not letting his generals do their job

ionic magnet
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just saw a YT ad that promotes a browser that blocks YT ads

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big brain lmao

still minnow
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which is why you want to keep hitler in power

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so that he brings down his own war machine

blazing scroll
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@still minnow don't get too confused tho

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The german generals were great in strategies but a war revolves about more than just the battles

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The fact that most of the german logistics was done by horse says enough

coral wren
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Well, you cant say no to a painter who has his pocket secret police who will lynch you for treason like they did with rommel

still minnow
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Well, think of their position this way. They conqeured most of europe. Their eocnomy is based entirely on raiding. They need oil.

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Britain won't accept peace because it's britain, and the closest oil is in russia

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they are literally fucked

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there is no play that will win them the war from that point

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if they keep fighting britain they run out of oil and they lose the war of attrition

coral wren
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Well, hard to tell. If they didn't masscare brits in dunkirk perhaps they could come to an agreement.

still minnow
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if they invade russia they're in a 2 way gangbang

blazing scroll
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Waging war against the entire world is never going to end well

still minnow
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I highly doubt it

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germany doing much of anything pisses britain off as I said

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for britain to accept peace germany would have to liberate all the countries they invaded

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especially after america joined the war

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without america germany had a chance against britain while buying russian oil

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but america joined and now britain had the entire production base of america behind them

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the writing is on the wall

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it's simple math

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1 tank cannot win against 50 tanks

shy hazel
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anyways

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go to history club now

coral wren
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Well, they fucked up not realizing in time they could get oil from the middle east in no time without opening an eastern front

shy hazel
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youll see alot of historical fights there

blazing scroll
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All the discussions

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Their entire casus belli was fcked up

shy hazel
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any war's casus belli is crap anyways

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imagine

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world war 1 started because the austrian whatever was killed

still minnow
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are youi forgetting that britain literally had an african campaign to stop them from doing that: no matter where they go or what they do britain is fucking with them, and it's not accident

shy hazel
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then world war 2 happened because of ww1 revenge

blazing scroll
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Did you know ww1 was kinda a revenge thing too

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There was a french german war earlier

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Which the French lost

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coral wren
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It was too late at that point, should have gone to iraq and take take brit's shit. Hitler just had to negotiate with mussolini.

shy hazel
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the only winner in the war is the one who finances the winning side

blazing scroll
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There are only losers

cloud pumice
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I think I read somewhere in past that fleet tech doesn't apply to exercises. Anyone knows about that?

shy hazel
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it wasnt meant not to apply

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but it applied anyways

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because of spaghetti code

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it works on offense apparently

trim horizon
cloud pumice
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ok thx. I wish it worked normally so I could nolife my fleet into greatness ๐Ÿ˜’

coral wren
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I don't think such small bonuses would help you that much

trim horizon
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I was thinking if we'll get a 2nd rainbow mag/hcfr/f4u

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๐Ÿค”

cloud pumice
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Well, every penny counts WarShrug And being a torp meme user I could use all those hp bonuses for DDs

trim horizon
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I doubt they'll make a rerun only for EN

coral wren
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fw rerun brings hcfr

trim horizon
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yeah ikr but

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for JP/CN it'd be the oldest event, so they'll probably just add it in Memory event like w/ DC

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they didn't get a 3rd rainbow mag

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I mean I can totally see it, when they'll add the memory system for EN with DC/WC/VDiR and FW already in it

coral wren
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Hm, is fw rerun our next closest event?

trim horizon
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It should be

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October 26th - November 15th 2018

coral wren
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I was anticipating mikasa, but it seems we won't see her anytime soon

trim horizon
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last year

coral wren
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Well, not that she is any good anyway

trim horizon
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They stated Mikasa it's on October so early October I guess ? I mean EN calendar is fucked anyway

coral wren
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Yeah, it doesn't make any sense

blazing scroll
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We should get Mikasa anytime soon with her retro even

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๐Ÿ‘€

coral wren
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where did you get that retro thing, lol

trim horizon
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It was from the Iowa offline event

trim horizon
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anyone know how it works the archive thing ?

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It has a cooldown on how many run you can do per day ?

bronze hedge
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How good formi for pvp?

coral wren
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not so good it seems AkachanSmug i'm waiting for phoenix to brag about his success with "hms foxes"

ionic magnet
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she's atleast on par with monarch imo

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with kgv and centaur being the "cores"

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still need to max her tho LaffeyDrink

sharp wing
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Fleet tech doesn't apply to offense, but did to defense, idk if it's fixed

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And fw was already rerun, we might never get re-rerun

ionic magnet
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they prolly tweaked that

sharp wing
ionic magnet
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cos my fp is always slightly lower from peeps getting me on their lists

sharp wing
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Soulmates

trim horizon
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Lag Fruit

sharp wing
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252-253

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what are even the scores around that BuckySmug

shy hazel
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alrdy +2

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can just laze now

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goal is +1 every reset

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cos dead season

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๐Ÿ‘€

sharp wing
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I'm already -3 tix UniSip

blazing scroll
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Those are rookienumbers

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I'm at the very least -10

trim horizon
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me farming FGO

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I don't even know If I missed any

sharp wing
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I get gensui even w/ -11 np so who cares

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What's current fgo event?

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Tbh these events distract me from my PC gaming Akangry

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I'm tempted to buy rainbow KMS boxes from core UniHurt
What if i get gold quads UniYan

shy hazel
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u mean gold

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and dont

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its dumb

sharp wing
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I mean rainbow

shy hazel
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time to get

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the usual

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crane

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or messer

sharp wing
shy hazel
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go buy it

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ima laugh

sharp wing
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I have 12 messers from those boxes, probably scraped few, 11 105, 3 380, scraped rest, 14 prinzguns

shy hazel
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maniacally if u get crap

sharp wing
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from gold kms boxes

shy hazel
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i dont count anymore

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too many

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AAs

sharp wing
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i keep getting prinzguns and messers

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at least they are free plates UniYan

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why i even keep 14 prinzguns... stat padding

ripe latch
sharp wing
ripe latch
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better than cranes

sharp wing
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need scrap more

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cranea are actually rare

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i get 1 a month at best

ripe latch
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t5 limit crane pack

sharp wing
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Oh, i can craft almost 2 cranes

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They drop in some event maps

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2!

trim horizon
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nice

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2 purple plates

sharp wing
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that's BPs tho

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so, like 2/15 plate

trim horizon
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oh

sharp wing
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That's project results...

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Combo

trim horizon
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eat my sweet child

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eat BuckySmug

sharp wing
trim horizon
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free rare

sharp wing
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U dare?

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sharp wing
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Worthless. Lowlife

shy hazel
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sooo

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did anyone get and already test

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the gun

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@ionic magnet

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how many bp u got

sharp wing
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i seen +10 like last week

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There is not much to test anyway

shy hazel
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i have no oil to continue farming

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still 6 bp

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๐Ÿ‘€

sharp wing
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i'm at almost 45k w/ 7 bp

shy hazel
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im alrdy 57k

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lol

sharp wing
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Most bps drop from boss, elites droped 1 only

ionic magnet
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no im not farming that gun

shy hazel
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i was thinkin if i should stop 1.2k oil comms

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but nvm

ionic magnet
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no use anyways

shy hazel
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i need gold fast for upcoming kais

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hey it looks pretty

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thats my biggest reason to want it

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lol

ionic magnet
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yea same with confetti gun

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pretty BuckySmug

shy hazel
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confetti isnt pretty

ionic magnet
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fireworks not pretty?

shy hazel
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o wait

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only 47k

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im wondering

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wth did they even

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put 10 blue cats in the exchange

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who needs that trash

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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thats like putting t1 plates

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in the event shp

ionic magnet
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good for enhancing

trim horizon
ionic magnet
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need 2.5k more to clear shop

trim horizon
shy hazel
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what

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u have more points than me

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i know the stat

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but i want to hear practical

sharp wing
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a better prinzgun

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ionic magnet
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im rushing formie but my oils cant keep up

shy hazel
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u already surpass my lvl

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well

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not that i need to force myself to hms in pvp

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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Imagine HMS in pvp

shy hazel
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my ibuki dev 30 soon

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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im planning to use her

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to meme up

sharp wing
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same

shy hazel
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my defense

sharp wing
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The Kraken

shy hazel
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maybe ill buy the skin

sharp wing
shy hazel
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ny skin looks a lot prettier tho

sharp wing
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Skin is too qt

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nah

shy hazel
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its fat tho

sharp wing
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i have her l2d

shy hazel
sharp wing
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this one prettier

ionic magnet
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yea

trim horizon
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Flex l2d

ionic magnet
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ibulky

sharp wing
trim horizon
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Ichubby

shy hazel
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i just oathed too many ships lately

sharp wing
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buki more like qt

shy hazel
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i need to 200 affection warspite sandy and formi

ionic magnet
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its fine just accept youre into chubby waifus

shy hazel
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now i need to 200 affec ibuki

sharp wing
shy hazel
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funny thing is i realize

sharp wing
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She's no chubby

shy hazel
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my hiryuu was never affec 200

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only 186

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zulu

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l

sharp wing
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i was grinding ryuu aff for like months

shy hazel
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she gets mvp seldom cos shit dmg

sharp wing
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still not 200

shy hazel
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kai should make it better

sharp wing
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I only run her HM and dailies

shy hazel
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i need to farm for souryuu copies too

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i never use bulins anymore

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on non limited ships

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jacking up my fleet tech

sharp wing
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lol

shy hazel
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for w13 prep

sharp wing
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just buy for merits

shy hazel
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no pls BuckySmug

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not until i reach 1m

ionic magnet
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how many merits you got now

sharp wing
shy hazel
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610k i think

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i check later

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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thats only 40 purins

sharp wing
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almost 250k

shy hazel
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not even enuf

ionic magnet
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halfway to quit

shy hazel
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to mlb all my ssrs

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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i still got a bunch of ssrs i didnt mlb

sharp wing
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i have over 20 purins in dock

shy hazel
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like essex

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i got 4 lol

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oh 5 due to login

sharp wing
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they never go below 20 lately

shy hazel
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i finished this event build

ionic magnet
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i needed to buy bulins cos of these stupid borders

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only got 140k left

shy hazel
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with only 1 copy each

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soo ye

sharp wing
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I finished event build w/ daily 3x on Saturday or Sunday

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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now i need bitch on light really

sharp wing
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got formie dupes even

shy hazel
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im almost in my way to 100%

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after i finish all my retrofits i should be 99.1%

sharp wing
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I only miss denver

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and subs

trim horizon
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ZkkBore waiting Essex class banner

shy hazel
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i actually finished 12-3 alrdy

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got ship there

trim horizon
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For Centaur spook

ionic magnet
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i need choukai still lol

shy hazel
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havent touch 12-4 yet

sharp wing
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I need many drop ships

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only farming from sos

shy hazel
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im grinding aff anywys

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might as well go 12-4

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after event ends

sharp wing
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after event ends back to 1200 comms

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Who tf grinds sidegame outside event

shy hazel
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heh pleb

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i was doing 1.2k oil comm

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the whole event

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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i mean 24/7

shy hazel
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gotta keep that research supplied

ionic magnet
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this game is unplayable if i stop 1.2k comms

sharp wing
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i did overnight too

ionic magnet
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need funds for my gear skins

shy hazel
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i would be on my 4th pr now if i didnt stop doing 1.2k oil comms

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when i was grinding pr ships

sharp wing
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I casually did all 6 month ago

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not stopping 1200 BuckySmug

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just grinding dailies and sos

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and events when they happen

ionic magnet
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idk im still lazy to do sos

sharp wing
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Also it was pretty fun

shy hazel
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i still never do sos

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lol

sharp wing
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using some setups

ionic magnet
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13/15 bps for first gold torp

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all from weekly raid

shy hazel
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im like

sharp wing
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i got 2x each, and 3rd uss

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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cant even make one violet

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superior blue torps

sharp wing
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and 6x t3 adv charges

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or 7 now

shy hazel
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devs should just give up

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and put them bps

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in normal maps

sharp wing
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nah

ionic magnet
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last time they put sonar bps in event maps

sharp wing
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Already built 2 and they keep raining

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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not sonar, t3 charges

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sonar was low tech one

ionic magnet
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oh yea

sharp wing
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useless crap

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not advanced purple

ionic magnet
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next events will drop torps

sharp wing
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i farmed 2 advanced charges there

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Iris droped 550 torps

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but they are crap

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worst purple torps after 30 sec torps

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funny how homing kms torps are best dps also in each color category

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on top of being best due to homing

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Tho i guess uss ones better for weeklies due to bigger burst

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and how each nation's torps in same color better are lower tech ones

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like purple t2 always better than t3 of same nation

ionic magnet
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I'll just wait for the event that drops gold torps BuckySmug

sharp wing
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2k25

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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I just want event w/ homing quads...

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fuccing boxes are scam

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Hoped to farm them during biscuit, but they said NO

ionic magnet
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DC rerun should be soon

sharp wing
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yeah

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then speed rerun or what droped em

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unless we get spee in perma without rerun

ionic magnet
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i want hfcr more

sharp wing
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But we already had rerun

ionic magnet
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only thing im missing to join cool kids

sharp wing
ionic magnet
sharp wing
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I want 2

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But only CN got em Akangry

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Maybe they put em in another uss event

ionic magnet
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yea they should

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or riot

sharp wing
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JP didn't get 2nd as well so maybe

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second vf-17 would be fine too

ionic magnet
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oh that too

sharp wing
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ultimate fighter-bomber

ionic magnet
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fk FW is too good

sharp wing
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yeah, best stuff in one event

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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and we get cucced

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And we didn't get to see OG colorados cool art

ionic magnet
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you know who's the best girl of FW?

coral wren
ionic magnet
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its wasp

sharp wing
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Yeap

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She was the ship i wanted most

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Best waifus always trash ships

ionic magnet
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oh for once we agreed on something

sharp wing
ionic magnet
trim horizon
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Wasp

sharp wing
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Hey, she beats Glorious in damage BuckySmug

ionic magnet
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lmao

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ionic magnet
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end game is waifu fleet anyways

sharp wing
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120 wasp will curry u

sharp wing
obsidian horizon
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I am thinking about trying Essex/Formidable/Enty + Monty/Laffey/SanDiego setup to counter foxes (Kaga/Nagato/Akagi)

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would it be any good?

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dmg reduction from Essex would actually be usefull?

coral wren
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You can counter em by just putting belfast into any setup from the pinned tier list

sharp wing
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And with 3 CVs setup you would like some dred(nanoda) and/or heal Junie

violet sapphire
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is kgv good in pvp

trim horizon
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she's the one who kept alive HMS

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anyway War Archives update

violet sapphire
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idk shes at lvl 90 for me rn
nt sure if I wanna full lb

sharp wing
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I liked her for pve from very start, she is very consistent

trim horizon
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so

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1 rainbowtorp for EN ?

sharp wing
trim horizon
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hope theydon't fuck with this

sharp wing
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They really push it all fast

midnight heron
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rip so no more rerun? lul

sharp wing
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no

trim horizon
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๐Ÿคก

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I mean

midnight heron
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inb4 no fw rerun they just war archive it BuckySmug

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cucked 1 fcr

sharp wing
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FW was already Rerun

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wtf u talking

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only event w/ re-reruns is Mikasa

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but it's build event

midnight heron
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since when fw rerun tho

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en server bruh

sharp wing
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yes

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We got Global Rerun same as Jp/KR

trim horizon
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it was the rerun version

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w/ new ships

sharp wing
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Same as Sirius

midnight heron
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great so we only get 1 fcr MutsukiCurse

sharp wing
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same as Jp/KR

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Only CN got OG run

ionic magnet
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1? you mean zero

midnight heron
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and quite possibly 1 rainbow torp as well

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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CN enjoying their double HSFCRUniGun

ionic magnet
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wait wheres ykkz

sharp wing
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ykkz is later

midnight heron
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so i guess we wont be using their pvp tierlist forever BuckySmug

sharp wing
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it's og run

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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Nanoda and Mogamin are rerun ships

ionic magnet
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they'll add ykkz later?

sharp wing
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we get og for now

midnight heron
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how they gonna deal with u47 and shit then

sharp wing
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same as when they added ships to perma, they added only OG 1st

midnight heron
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feels a bit like a slap to the face

sharp wing
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u-47 is rerun

midnight heron
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yea but when we were doing their "rerun" we didnt hav subs

sharp wing
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we did kinda a mix

ionic magnet
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imagine rolling w/o rateups

midnight heron
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ikr

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its also another point of contention

sharp wing
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that's why we didn't did rerun versions

midnight heron
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u missed ships? too bad

sharp wing
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on EN

midnight heron
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gl pulling in normal build pools

sharp wing
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cause subs and crap

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hope for another wishing wells

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or full SR tickets

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U can get all ships from archive thing tho

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they drop from maps

midnight heron
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if u lucky and if its a map drop

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so i can still get z46 from there but i cant get sirius

sharp wing
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aside those core ships

midnight heron
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which is again a slap to the face

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gl with sirius in normal build

sharp wing
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srs are ez

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Elite would be problem

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Well, technically, EN event is called Divergent chessboard, so we can get rerun of actual EN event w/ subs

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We got Opposite Colored rerun ships in it without subs

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Also iirc EN version had different EX thing

past egret
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Opposite colored ?

sharp wing
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We didn't fight other players ships right?

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Like it was in OC event on cn/jp

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So it's kinda legit for rerun EN event

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Also we got only og jp run exchange shop, rerun exchange has some extra asw/sub event exclusive items

trim horizon
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I care only about limited gears

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Not limited fodders

sharp wing
ripe latch
sharp wing
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U talking about waifus

trim horizon
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Oh yeah yeau RoonSip

sharp wing
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We got skin on our 1st run too

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only miss sub and asw items

midnight heron
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dats y its confusing af how they gonna handle such situation

sharp wing
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As i said, EN got exclusive event version, not rerun

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So we can get rerun

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technically

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But will yostar go out of their way for EN???

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exclusive En event rerun

midnight heron
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i want rerun just so theres rate up BuckySmug

trim horizon
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So gl to people hunting for non rate ups

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Ex limited

sharp wing
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i want another rainbow torp

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and free gold quints

trim horizon
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Hfcr

sharp wing
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forget that

trim horizon
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F4u

sharp wing
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forget it BuckySmug

trim horizon
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EN the unwanted child

sharp wing
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well, Jp is same

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Only CN got 2

trim horizon
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JP got their rerun

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Wat

sharp wing
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hsfcr and vf-17

trim horizon
sharp wing
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is fw

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JP had only rerun ver

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Only CN got OG run

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EN/JP/KR only got global rerun

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cn got 2 runs

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i keep telling u

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That's why CN pvp is unique in a way of 2 HSFCRs

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IDK if u get event gears from Archive thing tho

stark raft
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Yeah but ACC is way more valuable than hsfcrs

sharp wing
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Yeah, that's why we use rudders

past egret
sharp wing
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Also HSFCR gas 1 more ACC over SG

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idk what you mean

stark raft
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30 fp + Faster shot vs 15 Eva

sharp wing
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U say ACC more important than HSFCR

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But HSFCR ultimate ACC

stark raft
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You seen CN players stack 2 then?

sharp wing
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stack?

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skill dun stack

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one per boat

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u get 2 bbs w/ faster initial strikes

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naga + amagi hsfcrs

stark raft
sharp wing
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that was a thing

stark raft
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emphasis on Was

sharp wing
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well, that is a thing

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I mean CN is only one

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idk if jp already has that event in archive

trim horizon
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which one ?

sharp wing
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fw

trim horizon
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Not yet

sharp wing
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then still no for JP

stark raft
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they should just add rainbow torps, pirate squad and hsfcr to research/core

sharp wing
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same as us

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they should add Mle too

trim horizon
stark raft
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138 has been out for how long in jp/cn?

trim horizon
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Purchasable w/ gems

sharp wing
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they just got rerun during our run

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so like a year

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OG run in july 2018

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exactly year

stark raft
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guess we can wait til 2020

sharp wing
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I mean, if they already put reppus and ryusseis

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and useless french torps

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But not Mle

midnight heron
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yea it kinda sux we dont get same gear just cuz our servers start at diff time

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but at the same time they also wanna catch up to content so lul

ionic magnet
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dumb system

trim horizon
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about what

ionic magnet
trim horizon
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archive ?

ionic magnet
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archives yea

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vdir is fine cos we got og and rerun versions

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but if they put fw straight to archives..

trim horizon
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FW or riot UniYan

ionic magnet
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lets just say my pitchfork is ready

trim horizon
past egret
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I want FW actual event not archive

trim horizon
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UniYan I want FW gears

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fuck the archives

ionic magnet
vague token
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uh oh, system update

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is it 10 hour?

trim horizon
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right

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oh noes

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BuckySmug I'll just keep farming in FGO

stark raft
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nerofest already over

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did you get your merlin

trim horizon
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MakinaSmug im JP player

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but Merlin fucked me anyway in JP too

stark raft
sharp wing
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I think u can get event gears in Archive shop tho

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or as map drop

vague token
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the droppable ones or shop only ones

sharp wing
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the shop ones

vague token
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ah ok

sharp wing
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maps already drop all event ships

vague token
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inb4 25 bps for fcr

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xD

sharp wing
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or maybe there shop too

stark raft
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well fcr is gold

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UR gear should be 50 MutsukiStare

trim horizon
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also treat it as a daily since runs are limited

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dunno how much time you have to farm it per day

sharp wing
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later on u gonna pick

ionic magnet
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peeps said 15 mins per day

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so gl with farming anything

trim horizon
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time to put fast and huge damage fleet

sharp wing
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gotta go fast

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Not like i gonna run it

trim horizon
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you can farm PoW

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in Archives AkagiLUL

stark raft
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PoW was my 5th SSR

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Dunno where the fuck she came from

sharp wing
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From build during her event probably

trim horizon
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I started when there was PoW, Atago and Vampire banner

stark raft
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I started CE

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1st SSR was amagi

sharp wing
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I started from very Sandy start

stark raft
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I was cradled by the Zoo when i started out BuckySmug

trim horizon
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Time to oath PoW and buy her swim skin RoonSip

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Imagine starting w/ PoW vs Amagi

sharp wing
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My PoW still not MLB after a year

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Oh, we actually have wiki page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/War_Archives

Azur Lane Wiki

War Archives allow players to revisit old event maps for farming of equipment and ship drops only. It can be accessed on the attack screen on the bottom right, next to the hard mode button.

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Lol, maps have OG droptables...

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and u can get only map drops

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And the ships on news banner are for permabuild

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and core shop

trim horizon
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yea

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also

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VDiR had only Ykkz swing as skin

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wtf

sharp wing
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eh?

trim horizon
sharp wing
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ye?

trim horizon
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it's shit

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we don't even get skins

sharp wing
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we don't get her

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why would we get her skin

trim horizon
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yea ik

sharp wing
trim horizon
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Lulu skin discount

sharp wing
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Lulu skins succ

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Zara swimsuit best lulu skin

midnight heron
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u succ BuckySmug

hot creek
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tsk tsk. Not a single one of you has a 120 Formidable and yet already making negative statements on her. I am disappointed in yall.

still minnow
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lulu is way better than zara in every way except for the part where her default skin is her best skin

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idk who's been drawing lulu's alt skins but they're all really bad imo

sharp wing
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lulu is useless tsun UniSip

still minnow
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she doesn't insult you not even a single time

sharp wing
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Totally not tsun

still minnow
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didn't say that she isn't tsundere

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but she's like 10% tsun 90% dere

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...which is the optimal ratio to have

sharp wing
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more like 50%

still minnow
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no

jovial sedge
coral wren
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well, looks like 50/50

sharp wing
coral wren
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tsk tsk. Not a single one of you has a 120 Formidable and yet already making negative statements on her. I am disappointed in yall.
Ppl don't want to be stalled by sheff and yuki yobakvadrat

hot creek
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Except you don't get stalled by sheff yuki cause their backline all dead anyways

coral wren
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What was your wr against that one cancer setup anyway? It seemed like you had some troubles, but what was it like for real?

sharp wing
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Hey, u don't have 120 Wasd and say it's shit UniSip

hot creek
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Their VG was pretty tanky but it doesnt make much a difference. If anything, not wiping enemy VG on first airstrike is more desireable so your own VG doesn't get blasted by BB aux.

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Then both their backline and VG are weakened signifigantly and get finished off by the next airstrike.

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Sometimes their Nagato already dead by first airstrike cause ryusei skips over the VG and snipes her lol

coral wren
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Hm, interesting. well, i will be using them next season when i'm done raising taihou.

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Just not sure if i want to amplify their dmg through sirius or aurora

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you said they are fine without them, which should let you have more tanky setup

sharp wing
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Like running foxes w/ stall vg

hot creek
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I mean honestly. Foxes amagi probably gives you similar winrates.

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but last time i tested them at 110, it was around 50% which is a lot lower than what I'm getting with Formi/Centaur right now.

sharp wing
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at 120 its diff matter

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nakaga can reduce yr cancer to ryuu in counter on defense

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I imagine on offense...

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Amakaga def is nothing

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just a joke

coral wren
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any fox fleet on defense is a joke

hot creek
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do you even have amakaga at 120?

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I'm just going to base my experience off what I tested at 110 because your statements are no better if you haven't tested them yourself at 120.

vague token
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nakaga hurts cause i dont run smoke and big seven after fox slow is usually a vanguard wipe unless rng

sharp wing
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What u mean not tested?

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I just told you my experience

hot creek
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you got foxes at 120?

sharp wing
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I fought 120 foxes

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my foxes are still 110

hot creek
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defense is irrelevant

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we're not talking about defense in the first place

sharp wing
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when it has such HUGE difference

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it is relevant

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Also at 110 Amakaga was inferior to Nakaga

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idk what u talking

hot creek
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the fact that you are judging comps based off their defense performance LUL

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and no, Nakaga is trash vs Namagiryuu

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Amafoxes better win rates

sharp wing
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sure

vague token
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i have more problems with defense nakaga than amakaga

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because they have more punch

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amakaga is too wishy washy

sharp wing
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yeah

vague token
#

and doesnt buff torp vanguard

sharp wing
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Amakaga can't do shit on def, while Nakaga reduced yr cancer to ryuu in counter, that's obvious difference

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Don't be ignorant

hot creek
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who the fuck gives a shit about defense

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im talking about offense here

sharp wing
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dude...

vague token
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they were talking about defense im pretty sure up there

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xD

sharp wing
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When thing does 0 on defense and other thing does great job

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it makes difference

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if it gives such huge difference on def, it makes such difference on offense too

hot creek
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dude nakaga doesn't do a "great job" on defense in the first place. The only reason why nakaga is worth anything on defense is cause they can do some damage and with RNG they can ocassionaly snipe a backline or wipe VG with torp memes.

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Nakaga offense is too squishy to deal with Namagiryuu

sharp wing
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vs cancer they do tho

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I keep telling u obvious facts and u ignore them, lmao

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yeah gg

hot creek
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vs Namagiryuu, Nakaga has lower winrates than ama foxes.

sharp wing
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U tested it?

coral wren
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i remember blue also had more success with amakaga against cancer

hot creek
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Already told you during the 110 era I tested extensively. Nakaga is hot fucking garbage.

sharp wing
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at 120 tho

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where u miss a lot

hot creek
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no I haven't but I'm willing to bet its the same shit.

sharp wing
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We have plenty ppl here w/ 120 Akaga, they can test

vague token
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the thing with nakaga that amakaga is that big seven can force 2nd strike onto main, amagi cant do that because her barrage doesnt clear your vanguard

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with even 2 torps from jintsuu your vanguard is already bleeding before first strike

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add in 818

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vanguard that isnt belfast is crippled or dead before big seven hits

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big seven cleans up the rest

sharp wing
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Nakaga is more on RNG side sure

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the thing is Aamagi def buff doesn't scale w/ lvls

vague token
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and of course whiffed torpedos have a chance at nuking your backline

sharp wing
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Naga buff scales

vague token
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well

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technically the debuff scales with the enemy

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xD

sharp wing
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well, debuff ye

vague token
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honestly it's mostly just nagato

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doing all the work

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;)

sharp wing
vague token
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i could care less about hiryuu

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but big seven

sharp wing
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Burn and scatter

vague token
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destroys any non-meta vanguard in 1 shot

sharp wing
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IF she wasn't a loli...

vague token
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or at least 50% damage

sharp wing
vague token
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if it's defense torps

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you're probably dead

sharp wing
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Imagine we had KC Nagato

vague token
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thankfully most people arent running ibuki

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xD

sharp wing
vague token
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and she doesnt get 15% free damage for existing like jintsuu does

sharp wing
#

well

vague token
#

which basically counteracts the defense penalty

sharp wing
#

buff stacked on crits

vague token
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well, jintsuu gets larger advantage the more cl/destroyers you have

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vs selfish ibuki

sharp wing
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Buki gets double preload

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she alone can annihilate enemy vg

vague token
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the medium armor isnt an issue on torp squad

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na, if you're true torp meme

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you're already going for vg wipe

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so medium armor would actually be advantage

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because she would push to main

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and medium armor with her ijn ca evasion

sharp wing
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armor is last thing u should care about

vague token
#

is actually tanky vs main gun

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minus her non-existent luck stat

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xD

sharp wing
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and at max fate she gets that eva after torps

vague token
#

ibuki's other problem is lower hit than jintsuu of course

sharp wing
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lmao

smoky elk
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or use LittNom shield to tank first torps salvo

sharp wing
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problem is it tanks only 2

vague token
#

the shields only block 2

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ibuki has 10

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not counting barrage

sharp wing
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and 8 more from other ships

vague token
#

that shield skill is legit lul

sharp wing
vague token
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the best defense against torp meme

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is start of battle smoke

sharp wing
#

But it's %

vague token
#

so probably leander

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xD

cloud pumice
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Its 2 shields blocking 2 each tho, so 4 in total

sharp wing
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they don't both face front tho

vague token
#

who else has smoke

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c class

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bailey

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uh

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420 blaze it

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when do we get main fleet smoke

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is my question