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Some games go nuts w/ oath tho. Like oath can unlock extra "dev lvls" equal to all preoath bonus for all lvls, lol
basically doubling unit strength

still farming 200 aff on Junie and dragon
Ok, someone in game feedback starts to realize what are they into if they don't have nagato or amagi

Time to recruit more hms users 
Imagine thinking EN feedback matters 
exactly
I'm pretty sure cn also complained enough, but yet nothing happened
this is sad, but what can you do
how hard is it to get gensui on a tryhard server like avora without namaryuu?
personally id rather complain about big seven xD
im on wash so u can rush gensui with a french fleet if ur brave enough
well depends how hard are you willing to sandbag
you only need a comp that can beat namaryuu with enough resets
big seven
Why not 15 secs invul
and theres plenty of those
because my comps can work around 15 second invuln
but when you get your vanguard crippled or sunk in one go
or any medium flag loses 33%+
it's tough
also it starts fires and hits full screen
xD
any hiryuu matchup is just cleaning up leftovers from the damage amagi and nagato deal anyways

maybe he lost a match too
aaaaa really salty
im gonna put monarch in front of that hoe next time


You forgot the rule of resetting game if you aren't 100% sure you can survive through the cv proc
yea i would prolly be more wary if im familiar with the name of that guy im facing
ill add him to my list now 






๐
How come nobody saw me yet

Because either I rush last minute or rush early because of RL 
Memer tolerance? 
3




how to defeat hiryuu teams without hiryuu?
go hms meta
foxes can?
can but youll lose 50% of the time
yea just need a few resets
whats namagi+1?
Triple BBs can smack hiryuu
bb kaga/hyuuga/taihoe are usual hiryuu replacements for namagi
juneau yukikaze + any meta vg
ah thanks
or if you really feel lucky you can use aurora xD
sendai useless?


didnt see you for a while gurren
Had some sad times which made me branch off to a lot of gacha hells
AL + 6 more in a span of 2 months or so
But we're back in business

Are there any changes in the past 2 months?

@ionic magnet are we going to expect a sudden boom in complaints from pvp stall fleet

We're still missing the aux part
Shes already cancer without retro
cant imagine how much analblasting she'll bring to the current memeta

This good
nice fleet you got there. Would be a shame if it gets hit by a counterstrike
Counterstrike: Global offensive
After retro
@hot creek you're still hms right
I use HMS like 99% of the time but I have 120 zoo if needed.

So current hms really needed centaur or i can mix
that 1% is for daxam
Don't have her yet
@odd schooner yea #game-feedback already has hiryuu complaints a while ago 
don't succumb to the zoo 

Dfq let me backread that
oh, now that hiryuu will get her retro. I might finally work on that 200 affinity 
using her before is like using sara
can we have a petition to remove hiryuu and bismarck

without skills
yea around 7hrs ago i think
Oh wow
on top of more stats 
Her survivability rate and annoyance goes way above after retrofit
only need 1 copy
Oh good
My hiryuu is still lvl 96
not like it should matter too much
im levelling her slowly
you're telling me you don't have 20+ bulins in your dock
when before she's a skill-less CV
Dragons are better than foxes for pve
Naga can boost them even more
blue skill is useless, using both for yellow seems like a waste of oil
dragon kais are overall better stat wise and oil wise if you reallly wanna go into it for pve
when jp/cn gets their pr 3
Strongest CV was built right
30k eHP ship incoming 
in jp alrdy perm
yeah
but i like grannies
No worries nikkousen>ikkousen>gokkousen
i dont think that's accurate
sara this sara that
damn

i mean we need a retro for her
My sara is still trash tier and i havent touch a single shit in her retro tree
She also eats too many free skins
I thought they like belfap
defend your saratoga
Didnt she win in the popularity contest
i mean, if he didnt invest in her it's w/e xD

she's still useful for pve if you put levels/books but base is not great

I know shes good but dunno. Im struggling at world 11
Need a ship for both pvp and pve cuz i got no time for farming
can't have it all
pushed early 
define early. It's 1AM for me 
torpedo and dive bombers catchers
Party squad lul

@shy hazel 
Nagato Amagi Hiryuu for close to 100% winrate vs anything, but slow fight
Nakaga for fast battles w/ not that high winrate vs Namaryuu (but rather high vs anything else) might take 1-3 resets vs Namaryuu
6 dildos
i seen plenty of 15.5
paper vgs
1 dildo adds like 580 power rating
purple equips around half of that
my stall vg even w/ chip has only 13.4k 
makes u wonder how they even get so many core data
do they not buy like shells and shit
just 1 dildo a month
i cant even afford so many
im at 1.5k
fought 1 guy at 4th place
gets 12 points what the fuck
well, u can check the score
at ded seasons u can get no +1 w/ 1k ranks diff
ladder very stale


yea its normal
rank doesnt tell u much cuz u can be at diff ranks even at the same score
is Reppu AA baiting significant in pvp?

I don't want to switch my eq between pve and pvp everytime
U can use seafangs, sea fury, vf-17 for pve 
Hecccat only for w13, or if u really have problems in w12 w/ planes, for general use better to use faster planes

I am timing airstrike thou
so I need Hellcat slow launch
Also there is always messer to say final word in planebattles 
well, don't remember i used 2 CV in 1 fleet last time to time something

also usually loadout times itself
w/ those cvls
Zoo mirrors I guess you can ignore plane difference
Well
My case is
I'm timing the bunnies with Shokek/ Taihou
But the bunnies launch too fast
So I need Hellcat on the bunnies
But then I bring Hiryuu to pvp, I need to switch to Reppu
I don't want to switch everytime
Seafang seems ok for my case, I would say

taihoe is so slow, u will never launch faster, than her
Skk has 2/2/4 loadout so w/ Barras it can trpoublesome
I'm sure you can tweak loadout to make it work
Ryuu vs Cudas here, F6F vs VF-17 there... and in worst case downgrade DBs to Firefly, Suisei, or even Fulmar
also what are u timing them for anyway?
Taihou/Skk buff I assume
skk has no main buff
ah
10% dmg and dred for 12s on launch to whole fleet
w/ barras she has no problems to launch 1st anyway
given strike travel times though ofc it's fine to get the buff ~2s late anyways though, Skk or Taihou
so you can be 2s/#oflaunches slower on Skk/Taihou and still get the buff on Bunnies
actually w/ same loadout taihoe will launch a bit faster than non kai soryuu, if u use barras and seafangs, cause 2/3/3 vs 3/3/2 
but for buff it's still irrelevant anyway
and skk w/ barras launch 1st by default cause 2/2/4 
Hmm
Shokek with Reppu, Helldiver, Cuda is 22.51s
Taihou with Reppu, Helldiver, Cuda is 22.92s
Hiryuu kai with Seafang, Helldiver, Ryuusei is 22.41s
So still in 1s limit timeframe
we don't have hiryuu kai yet tho
We will soon
after kai she gets +20 reload
U don't need buff to go off 1st anyway
skk ye, she is 2/2/4 so torps main time effect
you can try ryusseis w/ some fast divers and seafang
suiseis or Fairey Firefly
Shokek with Reppu, Suisei and Ryuusei is 22.97s
Taihou with Reppu, Suisei and Ryuusei is 22.73s
Shokek with Zero, Helldiver and Ryuusei is 23.25s
Taihou with Zero, Helldiver and Ryuusei is 23.38s

No beacon for EN
is that 120?
Yep
Well
255 you're tweaking this for pvp right? 
the crash dmg is gonna outweigh most of the tweaking for pvp
they're gonna shit out a ton of planes
Well
Guess I have to stick to Cuda
Or else I have to sacrifice some damage
At least until beacon

Cuda has better crash anyways
just saw enemy vg fire purple shells lul is dat the sap gun
Who will be more valuable in my situation?
Skk or Taihou?
Skk buffs consistently with decent damage
Taihou trade that with 40% chance buff and big dick damage, also armored carrier

for waifu 
skk also has dred on her skill, and since it's 12s each launch it covers a lot of stuff
she buffs herself regardless
it's to all ships
stats/buffs are taken from when the munition hits, not when it launches, jfyi
for raw damage herself, and own survivability, ofc Taihou is superior
it's a question of what you value more
Hmm, did they disable friend chat notifications 
Well, 2 times already i had no
on friends icon
fake friends 

what will you equip with your Doragon Bunny?

You can actually have friends in the game?
is there a better suggestion than this?
oil tank instead cata?
ehhhhh that's it?
maybe reppu for bait
well assuming that's already Kai
and i rather use beaver/rudder for more eva
why Reppu?
aa bait?
Beaver is on Nagato
no rudders? 
Rudder is on Front and Amagi
9 days before CD shop reset
How useful is that box thing item
maybe they'll add avi aux
Oh?
and ofc has no skill
what about the kiz headband
Oh
same hp stat
i guess
yeah it aint gonna drag on for 2m
For it to matter
my typical battle usually ends in 2 seconds
If 1 of my ship dies from the first torp trade, i reset
are you a fox user?

nagatoes
Namagi Nagato Enterprise
Foxes is Akaga
hmmmm isn't Formidable a better version of Enty this days?
well, not really

U have to Hit in the 1st palce
well good luck to you on Doragon Bunny Era

accursed circle
Its black magic
feels sad about my Formidable. I really wanted to use her but meh... Not meta enough ๐
Well, use Formie Cent QE 
I just use namagi cuz i love ijn
Cent is sooo never worked on

Onies were ine if my 1st too
welp gotta stick to the meta again until WS Kai
And roon is shit
Roon sat waiting for cubes for like almost a month
Kek
German ships are just food in pvp
They're just good for pve tanking
some ships can even do better in defense
Tirp is good for solo flag

Roon will kill you for you

well, roon has very good dps
yeh but thats it right?
and nanoda shit for pve general use
watch your mouth
we made a huge mistake. We should have all voted for Juneau so she could get her retrofit ๐
we did
Nanoda is useful in everything
Vote Mogamin
What does roon bring to the table? Nothing. Yuki however
Shes jesus
Turning water into 1

yes of course, mr.fbi

Im a law abiding citizen
Bad doge
LoL
the flatter the chest is the closer to the heart!
Nice spartan shield
FLAT CHESTS ARE JUSTICE!
Indeed
Size is justice. 
Bigger is better

FWAT CHESTSH AWE JAWSTISS
Size + quality
2300x1800
Image
Now thats size + quality
Look at this shitty pizza tower
Its just blocking the view

top is right 



no way
btw, getting serius
btw question for formidable only 1 even plane is needed or rush farm for more?
1 is enough
Missed 3 tix 
in that pinned guide
beside Phoenix no one else tried Formidable
Well, actually ppl did
where are these people with 120 Formidables. Need to collab 
need to find someone on JP with 120 Formi/Centaur and WS kai
thats the only thing I wanna know at this point
well then, can you hit them up? I wanna know their comps/loadouts/thoughts
Well, i think someone was even here the other day
Other than that, gotta ask around on ALEC
jp/cn-general should be not so de-gegeneral 
lol that guy wasnt even using juneau pls
No need junie if u dun die 
if only that guy posted more instead of some random no context screen
I think WIS shitted on Formie slow 
Well yeah its pretty bad in PVE. and he's pretty much only a PVE guy.
its pretty bad here too. The only reason it finds use is cause it can sync with Centaur
I don't think there any guru ppl in help sections that care for pvp
Did u try to sync double ryuuseis on cent+Formie, like putting Double hecccats on Cent 
Itโs just sandbag and gensui rush discussion when itโs pvp related

Also flexing

I will flex my 120 wasd on u


idk, everytime I replace a fairey albacore I feel she loses a lot of damage somehow.
Oh, thought you were talking about x2 on formie
yeah no, if the ryuseis from formi hit, its just by luck
there's no "syncing"
i was looking at all my 110 cmps... Foxes, lusty eldie, qe... I dun feel like making any of it 120

reppuu has high flight speed, so drop ammunition sooner
yeah but does it affect the ryuseis too
I am the bone of my Exercises.
Sandbagging is my body and rushing is my blood.
I have reset over a thousand times.
Unknown to PvE, nor known to defeat.
Have stood there for hours waiting for points to rise.
Yet these hands will never reach rank 1.
So as I pray, UNLIMITED EXERCISE WORKS!
Pls you know you sandbag rush and reset 

Even I sandbag and Iโm a pleb
43.5k 7 Zara gun bps
They didn't
WoWs somebody told about it
that they want to make another wave of collab w/ AL
or something like that
I think it was on livestream
nah
I think they haven't even decided on ships
we are getting another collabs anyways atm, well
not we, but asia
oh, shiet, Shigure retro
I just mlbed her
ah, En also announced Collab skin of Essex
IDK what that thing is : CoCo's Collab skins


it's aiming to expand worldwide, so collaborating with azur lane should help propel it into the international market
ichibanya's a different store
supposedly rerun
both chains are headquarted in asia; thanks for the clarification
en version isnt technically a collab version
si they can just return it to the shop
anytime
the bigger problem is atre skin
i want that chickenbuki

those dont look good anyways
lawson
you can find lawson in china, no big surprise
uta can suck it



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found this crap
en wiki has diff skin names tho
Food background skins 
Ryuukai together with nagato or namagi and taihoe?
namagi + hiryuu kai is best comp rn
Better than nagato with bunnies kai?
So no need to level hiryuu's yellow skill
yea p much
foxes still has fast launch
unless you wanna use souryuu when youre bored
Aight thanks

Why is hiryuu better than taihoe tho? The survival?
yep and taihoe is rng anyways
Ic

Then best aux for BBs are sg radar and?
hiryuu has more consistent dmg which is what you want in pvp and 15s invul is 
rudder/beaver/hfcr/sg
Ah
depends which bb and if its flag position
If namagi?
rudder/sg nagato
hfcr/sg amagi
well you can switch them around
depends on your preference
some dont use rudder and just go full sg+hfcr
Ah, too bad theres only one hfcr
Cool cool thanks
Hiryuu is just insanely unbalanced. Taihou doesn't even come close.
Hiryuu was behind both pearl harbor and 9/11
lmao
Oh yeaaaaaaa add to the cancer
Yeaaaaaaaaa
YEAAAAAAA
GivE AMAGI A UR RETROFIT WHILE YOURE AT IT

Lets see who gets lvl 10 red skill first 
Im sure us cancer players already have her at 120 for a long time
I am the bone of my Exercises.
Sandbagging is my body and rushing is my blood.
I have reset over a thousand times.
Unknown to PvE, nor known to defeat.
Have stood there for hours waiting for points to rise.
Yet these hands will never reach rank 1.
So as I pray, UNLIMITED EXERCISE WORKS!
9/25?
in a formie-cent-kgv comp?
yea
i use 120s Essex-Sara-Formi/Enty 
are u running ryuuseis on cent and formie?
in pvp i use Reppu+Ryusei (not using
)
oops i mean just ryuuseis on both cent and formie
alba not quite reliable in pvp ..yet
but, i see... sry for interupting ur discussion then
also triple cv 
its ok i run essex-enty-formie for the memes
i oathed essex and ill be damned if i cant get her to pvp properly
my current trial-run def fleet
gl on D3
I might try kiro meme fleet myself when the time comes
i used to use kiro's too 
im leveling birmingham for essex's blue skill
she feels a lot stronger than ppl give her credit for
my def can deal with kiro , half of the time
Better to just put aurora in
balti seems better than birm
dat sandy tho

u need 4 uss for essex's blue skill
with hiryuu retro coming up her skill might actually end up pretty powerful
interesting sandy can actually kill planes
well, she'll have 500 more hp, 40+ more AVi, and additional airstrike that grant random bonus

baltimore isnt that great
unless you push backline
then she hits nagato for 300-400 with sanrui
xD
more on medium
baltimore is good if all backline eagle CVs
I'm going to stray away from using QE from now on cause wskai is the future. Loadouts for Centaur/Formidable will change slightly since no more reload buff.

it'll be funny if they hit us with QE retro right as you said that 

Unless QE retro has some insane shit like that counters Hiryuu, WSKai will still be taking the slot.
QE retro will be "just" SR anyway
or summon commonwealths maids
went 8-2 with this comp. sandy can actually kill planes but she still dies in 1 airstrike. monarch on def don't do much dmg. lack of CV means i always win VG-less fights. you're looking for some feedback right?
@buoyant parrot
non hiryuu namagis are free as fuck.
triple-bb/bc comps are usually weaker on def
I don't think namaE is going to be much of a problem either but we'll see, I haven't come across a good one to test against yet. Regardless, once wskai comes, GG to everyone.
hooloo with dat casual 110 formid 
triple bb/bc gonna strugglle to hit agile-vanguards , wasted first shots
rely on proc rng
my VG never get deleted in 8 secs by all bb/bc ...but fine 
what does nanoda mean
sadly i dont think hms will ever be relevant in def
it means "lul u crit 1 on me" 
need xy to come test against my fleet again
last time I had it synced correctly but not doing enough damage, was using eva aux instead of catapults
and no sirius
it's a form of copula, just like "desu" but much more informal and cutesy
I don't know what desu means either lol
Anybody interested in a watching a stream? testing https://puu.sh/Ekkkb/b77799e9ae.png vs https://puu.sh/Ekkki/04dbeb0554.png maybe ill set up the mic for esports commentary as well 
parasyte is the only anime I've watched and this is the only anime related other thing that I interact with so I don't know any weeb shit
those names 

hms stream 

So does anybody know the exact mechanics of "Battle accelerated" when VGs are dead?
I notice it speed up attacks but if it doesn't also speed up Hiryu's invuln uptime, thats the fuckin bullshit right there
i suspect it doesn't though
yea it doesnt
it just adds reload to remaining ships
i think cya said smth like that
shits so annoying. Like if it continued at normal speed, you'd have more of a chance at defeating her depending on when you proc'd by waiting it out. but nope
make hiryuu launch even faster
so stupid

she can launch 1 more normal strike during her 15 sec invul (after her mortal-blow strike)
works with enty too
dis why you really need VG cockroach. I think im going bite the bullet and oath ykkz.
why ws over kgv or monarch?
yea as much as i hate using lolis, she's really the only one who can live and tank through BB aux
ws is the future, might as well get used to it.
have u used HE dd guns for secondaries?
Yeah they're ok. Better on defense than offense though. For offense you want Nepgun as secondaries
i guess in general, regarding bb aux
yea another downside of using formie+cent is not having a 2nd nepgun
sometime it's amusing , see surviving ykkz keep sprint-into-ramming into backline until she died
not that its a big deal
https://puu.sh/EkkCc/1fa55f99cd.png feelsgoodman
@ionic magnet that HELPS A LOT!!! Thanks!!!!
fuck, accidently won while testing. Ate a +9 

so Sandy UR isn't really that helpful in PvP eh? well I'm putting back Sanrui then. Thanks again @ionic magnet
yea sanrui is better for sure
if sandy didnt work well while im using 2 CVs then it will be just worse with the usual 2BB+1CV comps
but works so nice on offense
I never press that reset button like maybe in a season just twice
and that's against NamaE
yea many comps work well in offense











