pvp

[stark raft]

[hot creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364769611197054986/623002335219679232/2019-09-15_20-48-22.gif

[ionic magnet]

you not going for pasta medal? 👀

[stark raft]

HMS medal or bust

[ionic magnet]

all medals or bust

[trim horizon]

you sell limited ships

[blazing scroll]

For some reason I could claim her this morning

Yesterday I was unable too

[hot creek]

Why so many HMS peoples, do we just enjoy suffering

[ionic magnet]

kinda happy they added another way to get pts cos i still dont have zara

[stark raft]

HMS stronk

PVP and PVE wise

[ionic magnet]

im just using hms cos ijn rejected me

[trim horizon]

how can people say Nagato is top tier even in PvE

[shy hazel]

can someone do sp

maybe they put spag ships there alrdy

properly

[stark raft]

I have used zoo and hms

true balance

[trim horizon]

don't use zoo

[shy hazel]

mirror in this game isnt even balanced

where is that zoo guy anyways

i dont see anymore

which is good

[stark raft]

its still siren

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

so its still broken

good

more 🍝

introduced

sasuga 🥔

they should rename manjuu to potato

really

[stark raft]

taro manju is good

[vague token]

oh, an update

[hot creek]

wheres this update yall speak of

OhISee now

[shy hazel]

ninjapatch

no patchnotes

[hot creek]

Dammit, I need fuel and I have tests coming up so I must postpone 120 Formi for now

[trim horizon]

I'm procrastinating

you already surpassed me

you won both in EoS and Formi rush

[hot creek]

Well, you could retake the 120 race if you wanted to

[shy hazel]

[trim horizon]

already 2 Zara gun

http://prntscr.com/p6oh8s

[twin vortex]

@trim horizon here

[trim horizon]

is the drop rate high ?

[twin vortex]

My friend still in 10

[trim horizon]

how much have you farmed ?

[ripe latch]

think trash gun

[twin vortex]

@ripe latch gun just for zara

[trim horizon]

im out of oil 💳 is out of question

oh wait

[twin vortex]

@trim horizon hmm, more than 15k oil maybe

[trim horizon]

you in leaderboard of Event ladder

[twin vortex]

Yes

30k poin

[trim horizon]

nvm then

[shy hazel]

u need to farm d3 for that right

[trim horizon]

ye

SP drop it too iirc

[shy hazel]

ya i got from sp

maybe ill farm a piece

at least

oil tho

[trim horizon]

[twin vortex]

Often drop in boss part zara gun

[midnight heron]

oh they fixed the siren fights in sp rip

no more ez bulli

[trim horizon]

@twin vortex what are you using on D3

[silver root]

anyone else noticing a change on the event map drop rates?

after the hotfix

i just got 2 zara gun bps within 3 siren fights

[shy hazel]

it feels

more or less

the same tbh

[trim horizon]

[silver root]

[midnight heron]

u just lucky

[sharp wing]

Oh, lol. You actually get Trento just by having 1 of pair maps 3*, like in B1-D1 or B3-D3, just having 1 of the pair 3star count, not whole A 3star for example. Got her w/ B1, B2 and D3 3star

[twin vortex]

@trim horizon here sir, sry for slow respon

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

I just use double MahanKais for mobbing w/ 1 backliner for both D3 and SP

[safe meteor]

Do i equip dive bomber, or fighter on Formidable?

[shy hazel]

if u mean pvp

you want helldiver

dive bomber

@vague token

my lineup right now is pretty dank

destroyed a meta ijn with my subleveled ships

no resets

formidable 98 monarch 120 kgv 120 neptune 115 jun 120 nanoda 120

formidable skill proc basically rekts ijn backline

by the virtue of torps and suicide attack

[zenith tundra]

if u use formidable in pvp is for synching her stop with bb shoots so it ends up always fighters because they launch faster

[shy hazel]

oh really

[safe meteor]

so has team comp with Formidable been succesful yet?

[shy hazel]

well i was using ijn fighter reppuu anyways

[zenith tundra]

using formidable in pvp without abusing her stop is dumb imo

[shy hazel]

must be try

true

her time stop is mostly ignorable for bb timing tbh

[safe meteor]

the old one was KGV, Centaur, Monarch

[zenith tundra]

it does take a bit for 120 and maxed skills

[shy hazel]

just try to dump centaur

then test whats better

really

my red is 9 my yellow is 5

blue is 1 ofc

[zenith tundra]

with kgv and monarch there is 0 synergy for formidable

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

^

tru

[shy hazel]

i dont really care for synergy at this point lol

[zenith tundra]

kgv shoots too late and monarch too fast

[shy hazel]

just trying out dank memes

trying to match the timings reduces dps in the long run anyways

[zenith tundra]

don't think it's worth using formidable over centaur without abusing her stop

[coral wren]

YOu don't play hms to stall anyway

[shy hazel]

formidable is just a memer slow anyways

almost 8s overall slow

only reason i janked an ijn awhile ago is that

nep basically did showered enemy vg with barrage

i realized

monarch vs amagi

monarch loses first

[coral wren]

your monarch is weak

[sharp wing]

Well, monarch only loses to Amagi w/ 0 barrages

Heavy armor makes the job

[coral wren]

And since without that specia laux you can't really make a good use of either cent or formi slow it looks like taking one of those is a handicapping yourself, perhaps ws kgv and monarch should work better

[violet sapphire]

should I gv monarch white shell + sg radar
or double sg radar

[sharp wing]

double sg or rudder+sg

or HSFCR in there

[violet sapphire]

[coral wren]

I tried shell, really not worth losing accuracy

[sharp wing]

Shell skills doesn't work on barrages

[coral wren]

you jsut trade those sweet bonuses for a 50+ fp

And yeah, with her 15 luck gl landing a single crit to make use of white shell

[violet sapphire]

was hoping the fp would do smth with 120% barrage

[sharp wing]

Well, at that point, black shell would be better on her

[coral wren]

well, it's like a +200-300 dmg iirc

Which is good, but it's useless if you miss

[sharp wing]

But accuracy is main stat for pvp

[violet sapphire]

but i wanted tht accuracy on white shell too

[coral wren]

Yeah, basically accuracy is what you want

[sharp wing]

accuracy > power

[violet sapphire]

also is it just me or monarch barrage is pretty random in pvp

sometimes it hits all, sometiem sonly 1 or 2

[sharp wing]

hit area is about same

[coral wren]

Especially when ppl are stacking whashing machines

[violet sapphire]

sometimes it manages to hit the side

[sharp wing]

u use her flag or what?

[violet sapphire]

side

[sharp wing]

[violet sapphire]

i have no idea

like not all of em of coure

1 or 2

[sharp wing]

Probably just misses sometimes

like if hits but 0 damage

[violet sapphire]

idk

sometimes most of the barrage just misses

not even evaded from enemy

it just doesnt reach the enemy

[sharp wing]

that's weird

Mona barrage pretty consistent

[violet sapphire]

tf

mines high af

[sharp wing]

[violet sapphire]

im used to it at this point

everytime the first barrage goes weird I just reset the match

[coral wren]

Is there a chance he hits into the wash machine proc?

[violet sapphire]

if it does it will show miss right

[sharp wing]

Well, hitting is one thong, but not reaching backline...

[violet sapphire]

mine dont

[coral wren]

Record it

[sharp wing]

[violet sapphire]

do i have to

im lazy on pc lul

pretty random too, have no idea when its gonna happen

[split marten]

PvE guide.jpg

Tells you to not equip an Albacore on Formidable for bossing

[sharp wing]

WIS?

[silver root]

appearantly the hotfix today buffed zara's gun's dmg

can anyone post a pic of the new stats? I still havent finished farming

[silver root]

much appreciated

[sharp wing]

old damage was 42

Wiki still not updated

Post this on wiki feedback

[split marten]

Yes sagi, that’s wis’ guide lul

[sharp wing]

yeah, i guessed

[split marten]

I heard the dude is toxic af

[sharp wing]

[split marten]

Like he’s banned on this discord and uses sock puppets or something

[sharp wing]

He's on ALEC anyway

like the rest of ppl

Also if u really neeed help, better use help channel on ALEC, than ALO

[trim horizon]

Is it me or the game is fucked ?

Perma loading screen

[sharp wing]

U are fucced

This is Karma

[trim horizon]

Restarted and now not even that

[sharp wing]

Karma

[trim horizon]

My cattle ships needs to work and get stronger

[sharp wing]

are u on emu? just reinstall

[trim horizon]

Im on phone

[sharp wing]

Unworthyt Shitkican

It doesn't even start?

[trim horizon]

Going to lurk in help

[sharp wing]

try clearing data and redownloading

or complete reinstall

QWhere the hell guns on CN wiki again...

nvm

[coral wren]

1 dmg buff, seems legit

[sharp wing]

After all the calculations it will be not 1 damage

On actual ship

Azuma can equip Desuland gun

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/516951413411020819/623217765938888744

sauce

elaborate

ah

well, doubt some1 datamined after hotfix yet

[trim horizon]

do girl ships drop golden Zara or is it just boss drop ?

[sharp wing]

give me sec i'll see

elites have same droptable as boss usually

i mean humanoids

forgot to turn clearing mode off...

[trim horizon]

I am wondering if it's worth doing D3 till the boss

[sharp wing]

Yeah, they drop zara gun too

well, boss has like 10x droprate of elites

[trim horizon]

oh

[sharp wing]

also u need points anyway

and mobbing is very cheap

[trim horizon]

me having only 2 DDs leveled

eva shit

[sharp wing]

and?

jsut stack boss fleet

[trim horizon]

how much does your boss fleet consume ?

[sharp wing]

3:3

I also have ships on aff/exp farm there anyway

every ship

so no loss due to big boss exp

reqs tight

I could drop 1 cv and vanguard if i put rudders on backline i guess

but as i said, no point

It'd be good i do even 10 runs a day n d3

[midnight heron]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

all these high evasion ships that I never worked on

[sharp wing]

Jav

[shell heron]

still lvl 100

along with nimi

[sharp wing]

My kms Z vg is on asw boss fleet

they slowly crawling to lvl 107

but jav probably 100 tpp

No, somehow managed 103

Jav is actually not that bad, her retro barrage has torps and timing of trp buff should be around second torp salvo, but her retro is really not good and she is HMS DD after all, so same archetype

She just pisses me of as character

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

Room blessed by good RNG

[midnight heron]

who dat hax0r

[sharp wing]

[sharp wing]

154 5/10

[midnight heron]

154

[ripe latch]

hm today winner

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

that's a fast 5 matches. waiting on my person to move

[sharp wing]

It's cause i was awake after reset

3 rushers

in like 15 mins

otherwise would be some 140 as usual with half ded list

[vague token]

32/31/36 and probably 25 or 22 or w/e for the rest

[sharp wing]

Where was that blow emote

[trim horizon]

33/30/30

casual life

[shell heron]

why do I care about my starting score? I'm gonna go casual sometime this week or next anyways

[vague token]

too bad we dont have a casual emote

[trim horizon]

5 Zara BPs

800 oil

[zenith tundra]

30k pts 6 bps...

[vague token]

just starting d3

[zenith tundra]

i wanted 1 of the aa gun too but at this rate gonna be too late when i finish with d3

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

starting event with 25k oil

[trim horizon]

[zenith tundra]

i haven't even touch the event shop oil

[vague token]

i think i want to train mahans to 120 for these evasion requirements

xD

[zenith tundra]

i use 2 lb0 dd and sink them against a large main fleet as 1st battle. it's worse when u don't get one since non human enemies deal 0 dmg

[vague token]

i dont think i could hit 1k evasion with 2 lb0 dd

i barely make it with 3 level 100 dds

[zenith tundra]

i also use 3 washing machines

[vague token]

oh

that makes more sense

[vague token]

yostar gib leip kai plz

(to en)

[zenith tundra]

leip tbh is not that great at least solo

[vague token]

i mean she is a force multiplier

xD

[shy hazel]

[split marten]

Guys I’m going to unironically use QE in PvP pls flame me and call me a bag of shit thanks

[shy hazel]

no one,cares really

unless u is daxam

[split marten]

Somebody reacted

Therefore you are objectively wrong

[shy hazel]

its kiro

[zenith tundra]

use whatever u like

[split marten]

See one person cares

[shy hazel]

only daxam is the worthy one

[split marten]

Sounds like a man crush

Totally no homo right?

[shy hazel]

everyone lovew daxam

[zenith tundra]

qe is bad but if u win with her or like to reset no one can stop u

[split marten]

She’s a bundle of sticks

Until she gets a retrofit she’s gonna be stuck as t2 (at best) boat

Even then the true HMS boat is KGV

[shy hazel]

so zack

[zenith tundra]

t2 pvp? because i see her to be way worse then that till ws kai

[shy hazel]

what is your formi lvl now

[zenith tundra]

90 lol

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

stupid d3 slots are trash

[split marten]

@zenith tundra t2 at most fam, as in in the most optimal of builds

And even in those optimal builds you’re better off using KGV with other HMS ships and scrapping QE altogether

[zenith tundra]

qe only is relevant to alow ws kai to deal more dmg with barrage and also because ws kai can force her to hit backlines

[split marten]

Unfortunately for myself I’ve yet to own KGV

WS kai doesn’t need QE

Like at all

WS kai is just op period lul

And better with Amagi Nagato anyways I think

[zenith tundra]

is not really like that. ur gonna see the beaver washing machine amagi around tanking like a god

that's where qe buffs help killing that

[split marten]

I don’t really think QE is relevant at all, just okay for budget if you don’t have event HMS boats

Also, Belfast is still considered meta right?

[zenith tundra]

ws kai with namagi imo is not great. it just forces all dmg to 1 opponent ship because of positioning. also forces u into ibuki/mogami vg till u get azuma

[split marten]

I didn’t mean with both

[zenith tundra]

if u have azuma fdg is already better then ws kai

[ionic magnet]

as bad as qe is, kgv/cent/qe wins just as much as kgv/cent/mona

[split marten]

Ideally I think the comp was WS kai Amagi Hiryuu kai right?

[shy hazel]

[split marten]

That’s the top meta shit?

[shy hazel]

qe in 2019

[trim horizon]

[split marten]

It’s okay QE will get a retrofit just like she got irl

In 2025

[ionic magnet]

along with mikasa kai

[zenith tundra]

that comp suffer from lack of buffs. amagi only buffs def and ws kai and amagi may actually fail to kill an opponent amagi before ur hiryuu final counters

[shy hazel]

mikasa turns into a stone

just like the museum

[ionic magnet]

and richelieu and veneto

[sharp wing]

We get Miksa soon tho

[split marten]

IJN meta

[sharp wing]

Kai

[zenith tundra]

if hiryui final counters before opponent does u just lose pretty much

[shy hazel]

meta faction will never change

[split marten]

If Japan lost the war

Why are their ships so op

[sharp wing]

Germans lost too

preiod

[shy hazel]

what is more important to devs

[split marten]

Yeah but Germans don’t have nearly as many good boats

[sharp wing]

U don't say germans had bad vehicles

[shy hazel]

95% of profits

or historical

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

authenticity

[ionic magnet]

jp feeds akashi

[sharp wing]

JP just had some misfortune

[split marten]

We just need to whale harder than JP

[shy hazel]

japan market is 300 usd million market

[split marten]

And then our boats will get better

[shy hazel]

en is like

5 m

[split marten]

WHALE HARDER

REEEEE

[sharp wing]

Go Ahead

I'll cheer for you

[split marten]

🐳 🐋

[shy hazel]

japan is ultra consumerist

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

[split marten]

Europeans are known as Europoors for a reason after all

[zenith tundra]

lol

[shy hazel]

nah

only eastern side

[sharp wing]

Any country that has not USD, pounds or Euros as currency technically poor

[shy hazel]

london and france is very consumerist

germany

[split marten]

Peco what European country are you even from?

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Pecoland

[shy hazel]

youve been stalking me

since forever

[split marten]

I live in

Canada

I can’t stalk you if I wanted to

[sharp wing]

Puriconland

[shy hazel]

i live in

the docks

[split marten]

Oh

[sharp wing]

Huh

[split marten]

Okay

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

This chat just died inside

[split marten]

[sharp wing]

Hey i got another SR cat....
w/ DD/SS EVA...

[shy hazel]

i dont even

touch cats

tbh

[sharp wing]

They touch you

Gotta do that daily free pull + quest

[zenith tundra]

i only made 2 for subs and that's it

[shy hazel]

i just random feed

xy

everyone in europe does

[trim horizon]

really

[sharp wing]

nah

[split marten]

Trento? Don’t you mean SUDTIROL?!

[trim horizon]

South Italy they learn french

[shy hazel]

reading news

china has supersonic spyplane now

cant wait for ww3

[trim horizon]

China

[sharp wing]

cold war more like

[shy hazel]

azurlane 2 soon

[split marten]

Let us bless yostar

And pray they come out of it alive

[sharp wing]

They gotta AK 1st

ded or alive

[shy hazel]

al2 will be easier

supersonic planes

anti air missiles

nuclear armed subs

now subs are relevant

[zenith tundra]

subs will be more relevant with w13

[sharp wing]

U get missiles, but they also get CIWs

[shy hazel]

even a fishing boat with exocet can sink a bb

[trim horizon]

just want Anni part 2

[sharp wing]

And it all becomes another w13

I want to see JP anni calendar REEEE

Is mikasakai last part?

[shy hazel]

???

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

is it even confirmed

[sharp wing]

It is

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

well

[shy hazel]

when

[sharp wing]

It's about time for her 3rd rerun

So assume same time they get Kai

[shy hazel]

mikasa alrdy had a 3rd rerun

[trim horizon]

October

[shy hazel]

iirc

[sharp wing]

Or she get Perma w/ Kai

[shy hazel]

its the 4th

[sharp wing]

She had 2nd rerun

[shy hazel]

theyll just dump her

in build

[sharp wing]

2nd rerun Miksa was during Nagato rerun

[trim horizon]

she stays ssr

[sharp wing]

which caused some obvious rage

[shy hazel]

well technically

ijn doesnt have rainbow refit yet

[sharp wing]

Mikasa stay SR?

[shy hazel]

but if u realize macro perspective

[zenith tundra]

ijn has azuma tho

[shy hazel]

all of factions has rainbow now

[zenith tundra]

uss doesn't have a ur ship

[shy hazel]

sandy

[sharp wing]

SnadyKai

[trim horizon]

Sand

[shy hazel]

[trim horizon]

[zenith tundra]

does she even count lol

[shy hazel]

zack u forgot meme

[sharp wing]

what?

[shy hazel]

i mean shes still bettee than pr2 ship

[zenith tundra]

forgot about her since she is insignificant outside of aa

[trim horizon]

UR USS Prinz Eugen

[shy hazel]

skill is irradation

[sharp wing]

she actually has MG+1 DD gun

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

so she has decent dps

and 2 barrages

[trim horizon]

Eugen can't die

[zenith tundra]

on anything light armor

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

and anything period

[shy hazel]

unfortunately only uss doesnt have

pvp oriented

refit

[zenith tundra]

when she gets to heavy rip

[sharp wing]

She uses her torps

[shy hazel]

but enty refit in the future np

japanese ppl even asking for it

[zenith tundra]

with like -1 torp stat

[shy hazel]

every stream

[sharp wing]

oh cmon

DD guns have higher Heavy dps than CL guns btw

[shy hazel]

even just by making owarida

85%

that will be broken

with more stats

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

make cvs great again

[zenith tundra]

sure 100% proc with 100% uptime

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

Just add flood damage. Thats fun right

[shy hazel]

i can see flood dmg happening

and anti plane buff

if we follow history

[zenith tundra]

cv need way more then a bit of dmg to be relevant. just consider that nagato buffing cv dmg by 20% is not enough for 2 cv to usable

[shell heron]

So pretty much make her a greater sara

[shy hazel]

enty is the only exception rly

[sharp wing]

Give her 70% quick take off and be done

[shy hazel]

double dmg with inv is still retarded

[zenith tundra]

enty is a meme in pvp at best

[sharp wing]

namaenty is decent

it's not meme

[shy hazel]

cos we dont have rabbit kai yet

[zenith tundra]

anyone that uses her is because is memeing or missing ships for better comps

[sharp wing]

cause EN

Not

because it works

[shell heron]

Invuln lines up pretty well with current pvp meta

[shy hazel]

enty still works in en

tbh

[sharp wing]

In current En enviroment NamaEnty is very decent

It can event make u reset

[zenith tundra]

sure namagi core with enty meme

[sharp wing]

oh cmon

[shy hazel]

tho

wskai

enty dies first five s

[split marten]

Wait

KMS has rainbow bote?

[shy hazel]

fdg

[split marten]

Ok

[sharp wing]

1st DD guns bad vs heavy (but DD guns have higher HEavy dps) now this shit

[shell heron]

I made me reset before

[zenith tundra]

the most broken ur ship...

[shell heron]

No barrage procs on my end

[split marten]

At this point

I won’t be surprised if they actually make enterprise kai

[shy hazel]

i realize

[split marten]

[shy hazel]

keeping like

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

x200 mails is a good idea now

to prepare for pr2

[sharp wing]

5 years?

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

how will that help?

[sharp wing]

how many letters we had

so far

[zenith tundra]

u plan on using cubes?

[shy hazel]

cubes and gold u didnt realize u have

u use for dr ships

[shell heron]

200 oil is almost insignificant

But stacking it might

[zenith tundra]

dunno if 100 mails are enough u still need 500+ bps

with 100 extra cubes u can do 33 1hr researches

[shy hazel]

en should have alot of time before pr2

might as well save now

i know cay

[sharp wing]

They said they will rush it tho

[shy hazel]

u have 1.5k cubes

now shush

[shell heron]

33 fast cube projects for just 100 cubes. I should do some

[zenith tundra]

is en getting pr2 earlier? rip casuals

[sharp wing]

They rush Kais and PR2

[finite valve]

?

[sharp wing]

They shoved us 3 kais in last 2-3 weeks

[shy hazel]

nein

[finite valve]

they announce / tease PR 2 for EN?

[shy hazel]

look at sandy

[shell heron]

From what i understand. PR2 is just talk.

[shy hazel]

just talk

[finite valve]

phew

[sharp wing]

But it will come sooner

[finite valve]

false alert

[shy hazel]

they never followed their rush sched

[sharp wing]

expecting around new year

[shy hazel]

im about to dev30 my 3rd pr

[sharp wing]

tbh

[shy hazel]

one per month for me

tbh

[zenith tundra]

it would be good in a way if en gets pr2 earlier and catches up by pr4

[finite valve]

i am more incline to believe the closest would be summer

[shy hazel]

wow alrdy announced pr3 in jp

[sharp wing]

They have an idea of syncing servers, so they will aim for that

[shy hazel]

no definite date tho

[finite valve]

or at least april or may

[shy hazel]

wows want russian prs in al

[zenith tundra]

if more dr come rip

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

fuck russian ships

[finite valve]

pretty sure more DR will come

it is most certain

[sharp wing]

I think 4 DR pr3

[finite valve]

if not 2 then 1

4 sub DR in PR 3

make it happen

[shy hazel]

6 drs

[shell heron]

IJN yamato and uss iowa

[finite valve]

i want to see river of tear

[sharp wing]

that's pr4

[zenith tundra]

anymore then 2 and it becomes way too umbalanced tbh

[sharp wing]

Yamato and Iowa are not projects tho

[finite valve]

wonder if any one can even farm 3.6m on sub in 1 week

[zenith tundra]

u get all pr to dev 30 before 1 dr

[finite valve]

i would say maybe 2 weeks?

[sharp wing]

If they follow PR2, u probably able to farm sub exp w/ other classes

[finite valve]

for casual 1 month per DR sound like fair game

[sharp wing]

Like DDs

lol, casuals still sit on 1st PR

[finite valve]

you need to finish PR 1 to do PR 2?

[zenith tundra]

no

[sharp wing]

Nah

that would be dumb

[shell heron]

I should have refreshed my list an hour ago. No bites on my 3rd match

[finite valve]

then why do you think they going to do PR 1?

if i am giving the choice to choose

[sharp wing]

But dev PR1 after PR2 update will be kinda hard

[finite valve]

i would do PR 2

why tf would i do 1?

stupid

[zenith tundra]

u get 5 researches divided in between seasons to choose from and u can lock 2 of them to one or the other season

from a pr prospective imo pr1>pr2

just pr 2 also has dr mixed

[sharp wing]

pr2 removed focused research for gear, pr1 ships, and some research lose random extra bp rewards

And events only have PR2 and DR bps

[zenith tundra]

pr bps from events in jp are for all pr ships

[sharp wing]

u can convert to pr1 too?

[shy hazel]

there are some dr bps right

or was that in the pr2 intro only

[sharp wing]

last event 10 DR bps in shop, previous event i seen 5

[sharp wing]

well, pr2 bps are universal then

And that's only convenient way to dev pr1 after pr2 update tbh

cause no focused research for pr1

[mild spruce]

can the "ALL" prints be transformed into PR2 non DR prints?

that we have currently

[sharp wing]

probably not

they called pr1 and pr2 on wiki for a reason

[zenith tundra]

the difference with pr2 bps from pr1 is that pr1 only works for pr1 ships so people couldn't save them beforehand

[mild spruce]

oh ok

[shy hazel]

do u know

[sharp wing]

Ded reset

[shy hazel]

tachibana in stream always says

give us something to do

with those extra pr1 bps

even after fate sim

lol

[sharp wing]

well, obviously they get useless in the end

I'd do conversion option

like convert 2pr1 bps into 1 random pr2

(with possibility to get DR prints )

at 0.01%

[zenith tundra]

i think people have problems if they do pr1 bps researches after max fate sim

[shell heron]

Damn. 144 start

3rd match list never moved so lost out on 9 points

[zenith tundra]

better then no one moving after a 38 like it happened to me

135 start and then missed 2 attempts. rip season

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

I just want to sandbag as much as I can before converting to a casual.

Become tastier food for when I rush

[zenith tundra]

day 1 conversion is the best

[sharp wing]

idk, i got top11 w/ 3 missed tix like 1 hr before season end

[shell heron]

Remember you're a sandy player

[sharp wing]

yeah, some JP servers are worse

that's why

[zenith tundra]

are there actually competitive servers outside of avrora?

[ripe latch]

pr2 on next year in EN server?

[shell heron]

Although avrora was really casual last season. If someone like me can get r2

[sharp wing]

pr2 should be less than a year away

half year probably

[zenith tundra]

if they follow jp/cn calendar yes. if they want to rush en it shouldn't

[shell heron]

Almost r1 if the god famine didn't remember about his last match

[ripe latch]

did last pr , still not get maya

[sharp wing]

I dun cubes too Roon...

give

[ripe latch]

5

[sharp wing]

I'm afraid to ger near shipyard

Hey, i was 2 events a week at 0 cubes, 5 cubes matter

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

I got Birm only from Mail cubes last day

Yostar knew i needed em

So Roon only gets cubes after 300

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

I'm a ded man, right

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

my favourite unlock is fdg 60k money

[sharp wing]

money u can farm, cubes u can't

[zenith tundra]

i had to stop research for like 3-4 days

[ripe latch]

commisions , 2-6 coubs per day

[sharp wing]

comms are still RNG

[ripe latch]

~15 comm , 2-3 100%

[zenith tundra]

also don't waste oil on farminng and do 10hr comm. eventually u'll get cubes too

[sharp wing]

And that's not 'farm'

I do comms every day, lol

[zenith tundra]

even the 10hr that costs 1.2k oil?

[sharp wing]

what comms else would we talk about lol

That's only way i spend oil

[zenith tundra]

forgot i was talking to a casual

[south ore]

its worth it for the gold alone imo, grinding 7-2 is awful i hate it

[zenith tundra]

expecting people to play the game and need oil

[sharp wing]

expecting every to be nolyfer

expecting ppl to play only 1 game

[south ore]

does playing all en cn and jp count as one game?

[zenith tundra]

i have 30k pts and spent more time playing wow....

[sharp wing]

and?

[zenith tundra]

and i work too

[sharp wing]

and u play at work

I play 4 gachas and few pc games, including mmos

I got 20k points and still spend oil on 1200 comms

idk if i'm even casual

Guess i gotta quit elitist club

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[ionic magnet]

1.2k oil comm best comm

[ripe latch]

swordish crit 2600

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

in pvp

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

why u sue swordfish even?

or u mean core shop one?

[ripe latch]

that trash die when slow || yuki ||

[sharp wing]

ah

[ripe latch]

4 miss

[sharp wing]

I already fought few 120 dev 30 izumos

[ripe latch]

press f

[sharp wing]

and it was sad

[ripe latch]

11 rank , not bad

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

I need some food on my list

[velvet oracle]

Generally, Belgun or Research AP CL gun for CLs? PvP

[sharp wing]

belgun

Ap for Neptune

(or Edinburg)

pins have tierlist with gears too

[shy hazel]

[velvet oracle]

oki

[shy hazel]

im having an email fight

with an it guy rn

in japanese

annoying

its easier to talk with indian it

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

indians can argue?

They usually just nod

[shy hazel]

thats the point

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

u just them tell something broken

and theyll find it

japanese it wants specifics

[sharp wing]

Typical

[shy hazel]

now i get why india it is best

dead reset

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[blissful girder]

is there a way to purposefully keep my pvp rank low? I always wind up in the mid thousand or above, surrounded by annoying fleets to beat :x

[shy hazel]

rush pvp

do charges as soon as it resets

[blissful girder]

Wait, I mean keep it high. I wanna stay pvp rank above like 2000 lol, and just by winning my fights I keep getting below that

[shy hazel]

sandbag is the way

check pins

[blissful girder]

Got it, thanks

[shy hazel]

actually sandbagging isnt explained there

@sharp wing

explain

[sharp wing]

There is no way for u to keep yr rank at big numbers, unless u , like, fight rightmost enemies

[shy hazel]

he means

[sharp wing]

or skip tix

[shy hazel]

he wants higher ranks

[ripe latch]

fight only left-side enemy

[sharp wing]

He wants Bigger numbers

[elder crane]

Well, if it's wins you want and don't care about ranking, then fight rightmost person

[shy hazel]

he mistyped or misunderstood actually

[elder crane]

and wait until near reset time to do fights

[sharp wing]

U did actually

[blissful girder]

Got it, thanks. I'm newish and can't compete with Nagato fleets and level 120 enty's make me really sad

[elder crane]

yeah, I feel ya

[sharp wing]

Been there done that

[shy hazel]

now im confused

[sharp wing]

He doesn't want to get to top ranks, he wants to stay low, lol

u misunderstood

[elder crane]

he wants to win in PvP but can't cause when he wins too much, fleets get too tough

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

Just fight rightmost fleets, u won't get too high

[elder crane]

so fight rightmost for lowest ranking point gain, and if still issue, do it near reset so other ppl have climbed more

[shy hazel]

just stay captain until you have better fleet

then climb slowly

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

stay 5/10-10/10 matches if possible, basically, is my second point

you'll probs still get walled a bit as a new player, but what can you do
probs can't avoid a few losses

jfyi, can exit out of PvP match w 0 penalty (don't even lose an attempt)

[shy hazel]

with pure guts and concentration and pro resetting skills

u can,vice admiral maybe

[sharp wing]

U can restart pvp matches endlessly, till u win

[shy hazel]

unless your fleet really sucks

[elder crane]

or exit out if you can't win and fight someone else

[blissful girder]

Gotta go for that infinite RNGer procs against Nagato I guess kek

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

ugh
something like 2H of resetting for RNGer to do more damage than Enty over ~1 min

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

I know that from when I attempted to Ranger-cheese EX mode

it.... didn't go well

[sharp wing]

Well

In pvp it was fun

ppl even abused long island kai

and she has much shititer damage

[shy hazel]

there was a time

i reset 20 times

and still lose

[elder crane]

idk, I don't even think you can win matches fast enough with RNGer teams to keep up with resets

[shy hazel]

[ripe latch]

enemy entr - 100% work
my enty - 0%

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

typical pvp

[sharp wing]

Ai RNG 100%

[shy hazel]

i have super dank technique tho

turn off phone wifi very fast

[ripe latch]

Ai rng 0%

[shy hazel]

if win turn on fast

i

dank desperate memes

[sharp wing]

yeah, that's how u record pvp

[elder crane]

Or good ole,
who wins,
Nagato/Amagi/Hiryuu/Yukikaze vs enemy solo Yukikaze
if you guessed solo Yukikaze, you got it right!

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

that match was.... just wow

[sharp wing]

current is Enty vs Ryuu

[shy hazel]

imagine 3cv vs ykkz

[elder crane]

CVs have better time than BBs vs her

[sharp wing]

she too fast for bb

Unless Naga

[ripe latch]

bel/jun/yuki
pearl + regen jun + regen yuki

F

[elder crane]

Basically BB hits like 1% of the time unless you have a linear barrage

[ripe latch]

amagi barrage best barrage on pvp

[shy hazel]

our tierlist has fleet builds if u need btw

[sharp wing]

naga best

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

hits all map and IGNITES everything

Let it all burn

[ripe latch]

but amagi barrage kill every cl/dd

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

and ofc, the one that I actually got a screencap of
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/583339152959995959/Screenshot_2019-05-23-12-54-19-738_com.YoStarEN.AzurLane.png

[blissful girder]

All the meta fleets are ships that I don't have kek. Gotta wait for YKKZ to someday make her way to perma build

[sharp wing]

U will have reruns

Perma builds happens only after reruns

[ripe latch]

perma build
after 2 days
every degen have this ship on pvp

[sharp wing]

so perma is very far away

[elder crane]

Hmm, do you think Amagi rerun is closer, or PR2?

[blissful girder]

For Nagato, yeh, and I have the Foxes. ykkz rerun already happened. She was announced for JP perma build finally during 2nd anni, who knows when EN will get her :x

[elder crane]

ykkz we'll probs get one more rerun, then another 1/3 year before perma

[sharp wing]

nanoda is cranes event?

[elder crane]

Yep, VDiR rerun

[sharp wing]

then no more reruns for en

waiting perma ye

[elder crane]

VDiR reran twice for CN and JP though

[blissful girder]

#gameplay-help says that VDiR already reran though

[elder crane]

or was it 3 times for CN

[sharp wing]

well, it's EN

[elder crane]

or am I high

[sharp wing]

U are high