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also I don't really care about the ssrs, I need Shiza 

HMS elites cucking me

Oh wow, wows got paper ship called lenin. Al must have one. And she should be bald and with a mustache as well

should farm d3 for another ca gun for bati
maybe 1 more for roon maybe?
dk if that gun is better than roon gun tho
also that AA gun
dk how good that is

It's gun for roon/balti
It has reduced damage vs light, so bad for general mobbing
as well as vs heavy
niche antimedium gun
it fires 4 times double shots, greatest volume of fire

But overall u can just do w/ roon gun
j3c said its trash cuz its reload only begins after firing all 4 shots so take it however u will
don't mention that name in here
y not 
j3c found out VT exist for the 1st time in his life
wat vt
Volley Time
This gun has 1.2 sec VT due to pattern
and of course cooldowns start only after volley finished
no idea how vt affects gun but
unless someone wanna explain lul
when u calculate damage
dps
u divide yr damage numbers by VT + CD + global CD
volley time can just be added to reload in short
so wats the definition of vt tho
Volley Time
u hav guns dat fire 1-4x per reload
so if 2 guns hav same vt but fire 1x and 4x, do they still hav same vt
It's the time it takes a gun to fire a volley
as in total time taken to fire all shots
well, ye
ic
Why 0 VT guns considered good for Aux on bbs
Cause they fire next salvo (volley) instantly
that's also a factor for MG+ calculations
guess im still nub 
Well, overall not bother and just use roongun

But if u lack roonguns, this is good for roon/balti
not like im any better
prefer core/sakura gun pattern
for he
There was Trento gun for first
It was new highest DPS HE gun
But apperently event doesn't drop t3 trento gun
and it probably comes w/ t1
it has same 2 shot pattern
isnt it da gun with trash 3rd reload
lul thought its bb gun
But we have no means to obtain it

it's different model of that golden SAP gun
so a farming only gun this time 
Hope we get that t3 gun in boxes or some future Italian event
I'll instantly swap Mle for it
prob wont ever come in boxes

game has no track record of doing it
Also DD guns were such letdown, Normal ammo. With HE ammo would be second highest dps after gold Mle DD
As it is, it's just twin 120 alternative
SAP ammo is weird
Yeah
Only considering this gun as Roon/Balti gun
And only if like u lack Roonguns
Tho it has higher burst
but a bit lower dps
Not obtainable t3 ternto gun and normal ammo DD gun were the worst things this event 
Imagine if we had extra gear slot for weapon ammo
Even if some guns were locked to only 2 types
how wud dat even work tho
every ship would become roon 
ppl wud just use da gun with highest dps and change ammo accordingly lul
kill meh
Like AP bb guns
ik but its either or
or gold 406
or 280 guns w/ HE ammo, lol
283
Well, some guns would be just locked to 2 ammo type, like normal + ap/he, but satill
some would be usable
U don't have to fill both req slots tho
in same tab
hard to say how it'll actually affect meta until the idea is concrete but its just very unlikely for it to happen anyway
Ofc it will never happen
it just feels like all they add as equip is just some niche stuff that doesn't change much overall
albacore and littorio gun are just a 1 ship equip and the ca weapon is only good afainst 1 armor
will they ever add another dd mle i wonder
If this DD gun had HE ammo, it would be
but it doesn't and it's not like devs don't know how the game works
It often looks like they don't
i think is the opposite they intentionally do that
They try to be "historically accurate"

But they fail a bit
SAP ammo is actually Littorio gun's amm
women's intuition
Zara gun had AP and HE ammo
well the whole year was full of sidegrades at best from bunnies kai amagi and ws kai with the exception of pr
Fallenhill from wash? are you rusher? 

no rusher buddies
Easier to list the sandabaggers than rushers in wash 
oh boy bluestacks just single handedly blue screened my computer thats a first
windows just sucks
It's not windows problem tho
so is that CA gun not in the game besides datamine then
yeah
Only t1 on Trento as issued
=(
No way to get T3
sure like 1 year ago when i tried to acess my bluetooth card and i would get a bsod every time thanks of win 10
RIP
well, in brighter news, i got formidable when i woke up
disk write/read is not windows related error
did a 10 build using oil comm money
bsod can be caused by trash software too

aka yr bluetooth situation
early builds of win10 are trash, as most early builds are
A bsod from bluetooth card though, damn 
why do I keep seeing headlines like "this windows 10 update breaks computers! don't update!" every other month
xD
downloads more ram

Shit, there are fucktons of tutorials you can watch
and even then you can have friends use teamviewer for you


I mean, i seen some gaming PCs, ppl have SSD running on controller under Microsoft compatibility drivers 
U can guess performance
I had a friend not configure his 144hz monitor

fucker didn't notice for a solid 4 months
60hz plays?

so he brought a 144hz monitor but didn't notice it was running at 60hz? talk about blind people
to be fair , ppl who haven't experienced it before will have a hard time
if u never had a pc before maybe
u notice every time u move mouse if u look at the screen and not at ur phone
Only in some high fps action games
I was wondering why his elite dangerous looked so shit
U probably comparing diff matrix types
until I told him 
144hz is 144hz idk what u mean tbh
Lmao
yeah but then you'd still read on how to use your new shit
u notice if ur screen outputs double the fps
that require spending time reading about stuff
ignorance is bliss 

I mean, average person, won't even notice difference. It needs some really high end fps game to make difference seen for average person. And many won't notice it even then. 
It's like ppl buying 144 monitors for Office 
u notice it by moving mouse aroud if u ever look at ur screen
I just remembered that KGV deals extra dmg to RN 
U most likely just used different matrix monitors in the 1st place
KGV yeets all
They forgot to add Vichya to KGV

and HMS
PoW kai
Ohohoho
Monarch + KGV have nepgun now 

How can their VG survive 
lol
Crash dmg will murder namayuu too once VG dead 
is china wall still relevant
Good or bad for Enterprise?



Just go Helldivers 
not
its a 
Enty is bomb focused

Fuuu!!!
God I just can not get her reload to go any faster no matter what I use
shes not meant to
Why do you want Enty faster reload
who are you syncing her with in pvp 
Actually, slower Enty wins in duels
chinawall only at lvl 86 
hellcats are slow, use faster fighter
not maxed hellcat 
Wow, thanks captain obvious I know it’s not at 10 for hellcat, I can’t get the right part drops to make it higher
but u got firefly to +10 
well, hellcat overall not used in pvp after Reppuu and VF-17
u know i see everyone recommend helldiver for hiryuu
Slower enty is better anyway, Idk who you are syncing her with
but her efficiency is 110
and she has 2
might as well use btd for higher avi for torp hits
Soryuu is diver focused
and higher suicide
use that gold bomber from event 

wat u hav is more than enuf
Again, thank you captain obvious
Mine always gets destroyed first, compared to others who have her
Not like 1-2 second will change her fight vs Namayuu, and in Enty duels slower Enty wins
I’d rather listen to Sag, then Haloist, since he can actually give me advice. Should I be making her flagship?
But replacing Helldiver on bomber slot really reduce her damage
not sure where dis hostility is coming from but 
well, u have 3 CV fleet? 
asking for help yet acting like some arrogant dumbass
CV flag in general is bad idea

Should Enty be Flag then?
Okay my helldiver is at +9, power with it comes out to 4260
use +0 gear and u can slow as much as u want 
Haloist, shut up

such toxicity 

im sure listening to someone telling me wat to do on the internet
🖕



do you know him Halo
gUyS HoW dO i bEaT PoRtLaNd?? 
no
you beat portland by bringing a portland for your own
Well, Helldiver has highest damage output of DBs, unmatched by far, closest is Junkers. The other aspect is that the bigger is the bomb, the more accuracy it has, esp in pvp, and bigger AOE
Hey Form, ask Haloist, since he thinks he knows everything
And since Enty main damage comes from bombs
Junkers has many tiny bombs with low acc and low aoe

ded
yea sure keep the insults coming
@midnight heron how does thou beat port land kai? 
u cant 
One cannot simply beat Portland.
U give yr Imouto to her.

damn theres no indy emote



Pleb.

Idk, i'm like -3? -4
missed few tix on 2 resets
But i get gensui even w/ -11 so who cares

you blocking the pts ecosystem
i only lost 1 fight but im 18 pts behind my alt 

I wish I had sandy-kai for 12-4 farm
And my chinaball balling bosses at 106-107 even on high danger 
they got bigger balls than u

going to quit anyway If I don't get Cesare


gotta 
yeah
My friend whaled 3k gems for Naga
only for cubes
And got her nly after few days from some daily cubes

Take my fucking cesares and give me formi 
Got formi from second daily 3x
I got 4 of em

still got no event ships 
I'd gladly do it
on both acc mind u
guess my dock space is safe 
I dun like that ship skin
lvl 99 

Langley doesn't die idk how
also oil
not gonna waste

resource on that thing

sad life of common ships
I wonder if they sells for more
it's business

I feed them by overworking them w/ commission
i wanna see someone sell lvl 120 ship 


can u even sell pr tho

let's try

i wud think its disallowed
I think some1 did
u cant restart research so 
Priority ships are default locked
the game cucc you anyway
does the exp skill stack?
reported game for raep
yeah
didnt the exp issue got discussed before

Is the oil worth it tho
well worth if you use 0lb
if yr 0lb can survive w12
tried, it just increase your oil more
he probably didn't do w12
maybe If I had Sandykai
solo

houshou pile of meat
compared to Houshpou no hp and everage eva
useless
need a useful mommy
she's mommy of kms
15 min from reset I rush
time to put up stall fleet 
Rusher under cover

Some weakling on my list 1 tick away from bonus 
no u
that's having a high score mean most of the time
so
is the slow of Formi syncable w/ something ?
With titty swaying
Lmao, Amagi is so ahead in the poll
like 40% ahead over 2nd place
This one match was rigged lmao
Enemy Amagi and Enty at almost full hp vs my Ryuu in counter

technically formi can synergize with face torps and battleship volleys but not sure if she can replace centaur in a HMS PvP fleet
has to rely on a lot of luck... doable with resets but doesn't make it good
HMS is flexible 
KGV Cent Formi should have enough ryuusei + crash dmg to laugh at namayuu
qe cent formie
Formi heavy armour as well to cuck amagi

dont move an inch... counters boiler spam in vanguard
Ideally, I want them to launch when enemy VG is dead

Could try KGV Cent Formi with Aurora vg
Nvm that sounds bad, Aurora wont survive the zoo 
She could gurantee KGV yeeting the VG more often though

I've had enough of monarch getting cucked by ACC/rudders 
Ryuuseis + crash are guranteed dmg
how is formi time vs enty?
what about enty with ryuusei?
21 ish with VF/Ryuu/Alba for Formi no?
if anything i think just use banana on formi
If I do the KGV Cent Formi im assuming Cent's slow would hit VG first and then they get frozen
yeh
Formies planes reach enty in invul in any case
cen got around 130 reload?
so ryuu could just delete any alive VG
formi is only 120 max or so
you always want formi to fire first before any air strike
Cent has 160 rld at max
169 at 200 aff 
The crash dmg + flood should take care of anything else alive as well I guess
Enty is 131
Flood only procced by 2 extra albas w/ twin pattern... very hard to hit anything
and very short too
Fuck those alba then, 2 cuda/ryuu it is 
not like it matter when enty + helena just need to proc their skill = wipe VG
cen might have a harder time since i dk if her barrage can wipe
Nah her barrage only decent for slow + crash
so only useful for enty hele then
Well, at least i got some food for skill lvling
But i will need some more cat space soon...
yeet them into your fire/mt cat

I'm just going to yeet all R cats i think anyway
Since even ghetto skill cat's w/ at least 1 moderate universal skill = 2 of Rs universal skills
Also higher rarity cats probably get better stats
And SRs get access to skills
just yeet em into your best one
Well, gotta still leave 4 SR dupes for skill lvling
my highest leveled one is rare lvl 13
and maybe some Elites
exp needed for em is fucking insane 
Yeah and like 1m for the fuckers to reach 30
now need golds for 120
still no data on form's flooding?
1968 10/10 1ticket miss
New gold aa is actually accelerator alternative to 100/105 


so another useless gear
Purple AA is trash
that's the shittier IJN bofors no?
Strange we cannot farm Gold BB gun tho

is that gun even good?
or just niche gun for BB
But we really should have it in drops
Only t2 drops
and Trento gun doesn't drop 
Instead we get t2 Prinz guns...
like wtf

At least gold 100mm and SG drops
Oh, and Barras
DD gun also useless
Inb4 B/D datamine was wrong and we get some other version uploaded 
surprise hotfix
half of that?

let's see...
Japan time 4 AM
Oh, it's not day based, but when maint ended
or...
Probably last reset
7 or 8h from now
lol, C1 starts giving 550 vote event points
wait did someone confirm formidable's AVI ratio on her flood damage?
cause i see blue talking in guild
xD
*sigh
At 9 sec duration 
And with 2 shitty planes w/ shitty dual torps pattern at not 100% chance
I bet nothing stacks there
Yeah
so it's ok filler damage
if only i could put the game on slow mo
sara no
no
amagi essex formidable yes
Kiro
yeah, too bad she won't fit into hms setup
Are you seriously saying no to your waifu
(X)
oh they're their own tick

Maybe
But only if they have different coeff i think
U see not all skills get independent timer
🍝

Well, not all fires are
i mean it has to specify for fire because fires are a core mechanic everyone shares
so then they have their own special fire
while flood is already unique
as it is not a core mechanic

Still albacore having regular fire coeff has unique timer...
ill test once i level formidable xD
i mean there's only 2 unique fire coeff from skill
one is old one is newer
xD
and sanshikidan dun stack
I mean, it has unique timer
only weird one is kirishima skill
it's not core too
🍝
I'm still waiting on a +1 
But he dumped Sara
CN wiki says Formi's .3 coeff
Which is 

2 ryuusei it is
:
Also barrage is 12 torps? Idk now man
I hear 6, I hear 12
what
Is it 6 per core or what I'm so confused
So she gets more planes at max lvl?
So yeah 6 per core
I think it's just 12 for 1+ core but shit's confusing
so 2 slots double x3 planes

Time to farm shitty purple planes
Idk CN wiki just says "12 torps"
And doesn't give different ones like KGV, so I assume it's either 12 if there is a core or 12 per core
Can't read heiroglyphics so idk
ree
oh ok
I think no benefit for a 2nd slot having alba
but 2 planes 6 torps each...
But yeah 12 torps is pretty good
What's the pattern
isnt that more than base albacore planes lol
yeah
big nani
base is 6 torps per slot
That's 6 alba's worth of torps
Aka as many torps as if every one of her tbs were albas
Yup
Never seen but they say parrarel
Essex pattern
essex doesnt always spread them out perfect
they follow line torp targeting
no specified formation
So mirror bara?
mine is 6 atm 
isn't the 6 apparently all from one plane though, so it should be at least a fixed pattern for each set of 6?
How the two planes of the 12 interact, I suppose we'll have to see when cn peeps start getting theirs slv10
you only need 1 alba for formi right?
Yeah
Will get 1 more just for some ghetto stuff maybe

Not like it gives enough speed boost to take it over Bara
anyway
Her flooding will be around 3k then? Adding barrage planes to that, i wonder what final numbers will look like
twin 381 or prototype 410 on Nagato?
410
410 even for pvp?
I run the 381
381
I prefer faster barrage over a little more shelling damage
yes

Pleb.

until we get the PR2 twin 406. it's gonna be the twin 381 for a while
and a person on my list finally moved
20 minutes before reset 
me too
tripple pr is also viable i suppose, in case if you don't want to fish for barrage and have a reliable shelling damage
It's viable for flank barragers mostly
like Mona
so they not useless after they kill lane
hm, makes sense
And ofc it's bis on time barrage boats
like Wash
isn't wash's barrage timed? 20 secs mark
Yeah, that's why i say
triple 381 BiS for timed barragers to boost barrage power for a bit lower damage compared to 406
well, i just remember there were some weird combinations on her, like twin 410
or was it because enty was a thing back then
that's old times
wash and soda use 1 410 and 406 to not have global cd too
and Also Soda would usually not die just to shoot extra 410 barrage
but w/ 406 it was iffy
at 120 it's kinda not really relevant
was had always been 406 user
Wash looked really nice tho
how usable formidable is
Noone knows it seems
some people scream powercreep in game feed
lel
Well, 12 torps barrages looks fine
aren't we just waiting for s10 on her red skills to see those flood damage numbers
8 seconds gdi
I'd like to know damage of SLVL 10 torp
em, we already know about coeff so numbers should be possible to calculate?
why would they be t1 😄
Cause many barrage planes are
don't tell me there are ships who's barrage has t1 planes
actually
oh fuck
so what are the gear loadouts
ryussei+Alba
reppuu
you think reppuu will be better than helldiver?
double alba 

heccdiver slow
i'm not sure, since there are no strong aa teams anymore
ah, ok. sync
thought you intended to bait aa
If u gonna to sync it, heccdiver might actually be usefull, if for 2nd salvo
But we talking HMS...

SO, yeah, no.
yeah... kgv's salvo at 28 secs mark or smth like that
then don't expect your wr to be above 50% vs cancer 
well, it's 15% but, i think if cancer runs belfast then you are in trouble
oh, right..
time to get stalled out by rng 
xD

Rushers should be banned from bonuses 
not completely strange if you weren't heavily sandbagging
didnt know its still possible right now
nah im a rusher
im getting used to seeing +9 and +8s
not even all 10s 
damn famine is on my list

im not a good food anyway
time to see if he's ahead of me or behind me in 3 minutes
rests gonna happen in 1 minute rn
I rush before I sleep
nah
1 minute to finish 5 matches 
its time u graduate from boy to a man







