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not really
Lol
throwing bad coding at you
pierce hiryuu invuln
who can sync w/ her
whats her loadout anyways
Formidable
Fighter/Torp/Torp. Fighter can be replaced by Dive bomber.
ah i mean like cent's 4/0/4
torp +2 fighter +1
so, she is a better cent?

better than Essex even
I-i guess the powercreep is back on the menu then? Now i'm kinda scared what future ijn ships will look like
as long as its CVs it fine
they need to not be in the dumpsters
and CVs are also limited
just dont power creep BBs
there are so many monster level BBs
Yeah, but it feels like they might start making busted ships for ppl jsut to have an easy time with autoing w13. In that case ships should be busted as fuck, i guess?
hmm so she's 2/0/4?
But i agree, bbs are a plague right now
she should launch slower than cent then yea?
206
206 ? 
launch matters for centaur cause of her 818 type slow
which is nice cos cent launches too early
but the special plane has fast takeoff too
I'd imagine 120 Formidable has about 21s reload
thats with repuu/ryuusei?
She doesn't buff backline or your ships? What are her skills? If you don't need to adjust her timing then it doesn't really matter, unless you want to time it so that she won't be cucked by washing machine
Ideally so she is first before the BBs
monarch with 406 is like in the 20s
21s Formidable with F4U Barracuda Albacore
22+ with Ryuusei
hmm albacore is aimed or no?
aimed should be limited to sakura planes
might not even need BBs if Ryuusei can just eat the vanguard by itself
@coral wren
Formidable
Fighter/Torp/Torp. Fighter can be replaced by Dive bomber.
Increase own Airpower by 5(15)%. When equipped with Fairey Albacore, increase weapon efficiency of the corresponding slot by 5(15)% and has a 70(100)% chance to launch 2 additional Albacores on airstrike. Enemies hit by this suffers flooding damage for the next 9s.
50(80)% chance on airstrike (100% chance for the first airstrike per battle), reduce the speed of all enemies to 0 for 0.5(1.5)s. This effect decays over the next 2.5s.
Reduce damage taken by 3.5(8)%. When launching an airstrike, reduce the damage of all other ships in the main fleet by 3.5(8)%.
or can just wait for the second mgm from BBs
interesting
Thank you xys
red-blue-yellow
yea its short duration but should allow atleast 1 clean hit
just pray your BB will target VG 
Well, once again, impossible to sync with kgv :/
@hot creek wanna try cent+formidable? 
Well, cent might just go on a vacation. For a double cv they lack nagato tier buff, but i dunno.
well too many unclear details rn so cant say
Putting qe there is worth testing
I'll test Vicc, Formidable 
Yeah, we will see
Hm, with double ryuusei i suspect you will clear vang on first launch if sync correctly
But what about vg in that case
i doubt you wanna swap out jesus for a sirius

Za Warudo only lasts like 4 seconds though. Honestly can't imagine it being all that great.
I guess thats enough if you can manage perfect sync.
It should be enough for your cvs to stuff enemy vg's holes with torps
not really a fan of double ryuusei cos its usually overkill and it showed when ppl tried that on foxes before
I really like how it went from discussing will italians be a meta breaking comp a day earlier to what hms will look like 
i think foxes can't really use ryuusei effectively
I really didn't expect much from Italian ships
littorio AP gun sums it up perfectly
Well, they have common 381 guns so i wouldn't either. But then i remember kgv, who also has 381 and how it turned out in the end
now
kgv has 381?
time to betray my country and 120 Formidable
quad

not even
oh its 356 kek
dumb British limitations limited themselves only
wow no one blame yostar incorrectly for once

I don't really know much about chinese gamedev, but is it common there to give away meta and balancing stuff to another company?
cant really say since they are both small companies
Because on eu we just have an analytics department who does this stuff
but usually its all in one

who messes up the balancing
in that case i wonder who's decision that was to make game this casual, yongshi or manju
chinese one
manjuu
when people mass quit in china
yongshi
they went full casual


after massive complaints of opposite colours
Wait, did they fuck up at start? Oh wow
the map and movement mechanics were an annoyance and player ships levels were commonly low
and every other event afterwards is just reskinned versions
so now you see them trying all sorts weird mechanics and trying to bring back up the difficulty
Just not the grindhell part of it, like spee event
That was quite horrible experience
if you want to give a challenge to the players, just make a sub focus event 
daxam wins. the end
best timeline
he can't keep getting away with it


Do Italians got a shot to Dethrone Nagato IJN fleet in pvp?
noone knows
I would bet my life on "No".
The only faction that has a chance of powercreeping IJN in pvp is IJN itself.
Spaceship faction will beat ijn 
Come back when they announce Yamato or something.
Well, hms has a chance
if USS gets a faction buff ship like Nagato/Bismarck?
got Enty and Essex now to go with it,
sad that Germans dont have good aircraft carriers
nothing can beat the raw power of amagi
more broken buff can beat her
all uss ships get 20% eva rate and 20% dmg boost
boom
and add in Baltimore?

second ship gives them 20% crit rate and 30% crit chance
boom
ijn goes into the trash can
uss bias
so right now, only USS has no faction booster?
a few months later ppl cry about how bullshit and stale meta again
from the 4 main factions
frenchies do not have it also
they are kinda new
Thata not true tho cos u know there wont be any change for next year in meta...
i just wasted 270 cubes on a cv that uses purple planes rip
as long as pvp is right now, probably yes. But if they implement guild wars pvp oriented, yongshi can eat a dick with 1 viable setup
How come wtf wont be guild wars just basic fights between 2 people so itll be same shit all over ijn cancer pushed to the metal
fastest purple plane (torp) in the game 
Ask stella about guild wars, he is the only one here who plays gbf 
which means slower then cudas
Whole game cant give u anything else but same pvp shit just between 2 guilds it ll be like very low population pvp where best score wins... Assuming youll have not 20% buff only ijn cancer will work
here we go again 
ask me and kiro about guild wars cause we acutally play Guild Wars 2 
disclaimer: Guild Wars 2 doesn't actually have any guild wars mode at all 
if u don't like chinese company with japanese bias u better just change game. seems like ijn bullshit won't stop anytime soon
Oh no no, it's too early for a conclusion. Just wait for the next ijn event to see what ships will they have
There has been talk about how people are tired of it... Just reacted to it that there wont be anything to expect
French will save us, just have to believe 
is it so? bismark changed nothing alabama changed nothing italian ships surely won't change a thing
french
saving anyone in a ww2 based on game
Oh the irony

Well, i still believe it was a matter of fact that they just tuned down powercreep when bisco came out
And maybe, just maybe, bisco's non existent barrage is a result of shitty coding
it was fixed after release because it didn't hit backlines in pvp also from cn data miners it was clear it had shit dmg
Then i suppose they were afraid bisco would be a game breaking ship, which is ridicolous after pr2 came out and just shows how incompetent their balancing team is
By game breaking i mean her synergy with fdg
But in the end, noone fucking using her
Just another flop
bismark is just not a powercreep and that's it. she is just fine in pve
The problem is not in Bismark, but in that she has no ships to back her up
I find her tbsk gun being as shit and useles, as her barrage is.
idk if u realize but maxing fdg for normal ppl takes almost 1 year
normies? in my pvp channel?
Im just amazed by this stupidity... At first everyone says that ijn changes were made for pve in mind... Wherever ive asked no one answered if those changes were necessary for pve. So this just proves their complete incompetence since they "made pve improvements for ijn" by which supposedly unotticed broke pvp but meanwhile still not enough because muricans are still best in pve like w13 and they keep continuing this process. I mean if someone does not see this absurdity then i got nothing else to say anymore


@jovial sedge uss ships exceed at aa. there are 3 carriers at best in pvp in good comps... how do u expect uss ships to be good?
Just ignore him... It's long story...
USS exceed at winning wars 
By sheer quantity
but JP has more whales, so they win the real war 
this is not history club tho
it actually is a free of mods chat where everyone says whatever
wasd was good when nakaga was around
Ijn couldn't win irl, so let em win in a weeb game 
Its sad that objective thinking is blinded by pure ignorance or convenience but im tired of arguing anymore
Well, how could u win vs US if u could never make landing there 
The war w/ US is pointless as it is

What a tragedy, irl ships don't have a 10% eva rate bonus
irl ships are not girls
what a tragedy, irl ijn were much better than us before midway, but midway jsut cucced em up in funny rng way

they miscalculated in midway
More like they miscalculated at Pearl Harbor.
The most funny part, is that axis thought allied could not read their codes, esp enigma 
How did you like that part where uss pilots blew the fuck away ijn carriers because of incompetence and disorganization, but they bragged that was due to pure skill 
requiring another strike at midway didn't help too
IJN pilots were one of most skilled pilots at the time
Yeah, decoding was the biggest flop
Remember, not luck but skill
there is a club for history talk...
sometimes I wonder if ark is just copy pasting his rants
literally same lines again and again
Will we see in al how nagathot gets a nuke in her fucking face?
We are all bots, some are just more cunning and stealthy
After that plane beating, her raped body was nuked
okay you can stop now
yamatomboy
dont pick a fight with a rusher

im gonna run you over
i actually got that when the timer almost killed 1 of my pvp runs
i picked the last guy in my list whos at 1000

I lost 1 fight as rusher cuz 
shameful display
More like 
Bruh shud be obvious
i once got cucked by a hiryuu
Look at my emojis
last season
i thought enty could tank the counter attack
you got owarida
tbh i just restart the match if 1 of my ships dies from the first torp
Weakling
my ships are subaru's
What, you don't know? Victorious is a good ship.


said no one ever
exercise : fight against the same ship at top 100
i see some cheeky bastards putting eldridge in their comp
I mean, i was thinking there is something good about her other than a cute art but...

her thighs have good dps
can you force a ship in a meta?
What if there is a pvp breaking bug we don't know about, but phoenix does
episode 56
We need a fireboat ship
Would explain why he can spend his 5 attemps in the last 5 mins
petition to have a torpedo exercise
sub
submarine pvp
ah yes, the gamebreaking bug where Vicc's 20% modifier against BB's is actually set to 150% which is why I always see Nagato dead before any other ships including their VG 
you can see the main fleet but not their subs
pvp sub meta lmao
then you realize everyone else is just using the same subs
that would force some people to drop the washing machine
i might just be retarded

dont worry
would make sense if there's subs in the enemy fleet
was it koln
forgot that ship who has helicopter
helikekter
and that's sonar, no damage
and chaser quick takeoff
main fleet asw planes do damage and no sonar effect, Koln heli does only sonar
dats y u use chaser
Just remembered the joke i wanted to type about "skill, not luck" but from the soviet perspective "liberation, not a rape"

swan BB

thats a leaked screenshot of azurlane crosswave



It's class name ship to that
or turned into a museum

thats basically prostitution

cuz you let people inside you in exchange for tickets

admiring those History
there's royal indian navy lol
but kuma still moving tf
Discord strikes again
says 0 spd but enemy still can move 
absolutely unplayable
working as intended. at skill lvl 1 the freeze lasts for only .5 seconds.
is her stats decent? those skills are amazing
sardine weapon skins hav manjuu in bathtub
Hm, does she have a potential to kill azuma with ryuusei?

Ok
lol

her stats are alright, her effciencies/slots might be a little lackluster, from earlier discussion.
Stab her
so a typical hms being held back cuz queen buff
cause Queen succ
queen doesn't exist
A useless tsun
The thing is Namagi not only buffs
its for everyone
they have barrages
namagi is 2 bbs with good fp, good buffs that applies to all ijn and 2 good barrages
queen is...
Amagi at all universal
U put her anywhere and she works
it just works - todd howard
QE is totally useable when sync'd with Centaur slow.
god shave the queen. Well, she is, but with nagato's buff she is just insane in ijn fleet
sure, except KMS doesn't have nearly the same winrates as QE HMS
KMS ships being useful in pvp
I believe the only reason you can teabag namaryuu with hms is because of monarch and kgv
i feel sorry for those shikikans with full KMS pvp fleet
they're just free points when im rushing
those cheeky bastards with enty can survive a little longer
def is unimportant
anything not IJN is free win
Well, considering I've literally never seen a full 120 KMS fleet on Sandy. Of course anything is going to beat them.
i mean there's people who make meme teams with ark royal and 3 lolis
or that one guy who have a full pajama fleet
well, those are meme
they're free points
there ppl who siriusly use kms
KMS is a meme fleet
and other crap
it cant even stand on its own
i even shit on roons
Well, you can dab on ppl from time to time with torp memes. aur+jin+ibuki/sendai/yuki should work with either backline
sendai on fox sisters
buki+avrora 
those guys are annoying to deal with
its like they were built for each other
belfast will save you
use her, luke
the problem is nakaga can't beat stuff even without opponent vg around on def
i've been using belfap in my fleet since last year
Then you shouldnt have any problems with sendai foxes
yeah not with belfast
but i have yuki and ayaya
well, my condolences
both of em are equipped with oxy torpedo
Nakaga actually easily reduces yr Namayuu to just ryuu in counter
does it actually beat namaryu tho?
Foxes Amagi has better rates than Nakaga.
u can never lose so how is that important
Y can w/ 0 barrages
my amagi likes to delay her barrage
You can lose attempts like cay if you get fucked over and over in the last 10 mins of the match. Def actually matters
while the enemy naga can fire a barrage every round

idk i never lost to any nakaga and that comp u fight it every 2-3 battles in jp
if your ship blocks the torps from their airplane, they're basically dead
Ahm you mean nakaga. I thought def in general

Maid > yan and kuu
belfast in underrated imo. belfast is annoying even against namaryuu on def
I'm not planning to replace her till Azuma
As OP as it gets
Pleb.
but there's maintenance
the very few belfast hms on def i fought makes nep almost as tanky as yukikaze
ppl aren't using neptune anymore on jp?
hms yes
meet me at sakura dorm, behind the gym after class
what is it like, jesus nep yuki?
im gonna 1v1 u there

outside of that u don't see her in actual comps
so neptune is trash?
aighty, was thinking of making jesus bel/aur nep frontline, but will it worth it without qe i'm not sure
i thought her regen was good on pve
regen is pointless vs barrage
Fought a leading Belfast earlier before maintenance who was bulky AF. But I think it was more the AI perfect dodging all my BB shells.
the problem with vg ships is that yukikaze juneau have to much utility for backlines. so pretty much only 1 other spot is available.
nep usually outlives ykkz tbh
only reason i swapped her out is cos of ykkz backline buff
Usually for me, its yukikaze outliving Nep. but sometimes its RNG af
depends on positioning and what u fight because yukikaze is tankier against bb then cv
if qe could also buff 15% hp...
my yukikaze pretty much always mid.
yukikaze always off tank for me
is kitakaze useful?
either jun or ibuki/azuma tank depends on ws kai or not
she has no utility and half dmg comes from mg shoots.
not pvp material
im reading her skill and it seems she's just goin to be for pve
yes
thats sad
there is 1 dd in pvp unless u want to meme with aya
the whole class is not good for pvp
nah i've been using aya since i started pvp
lvl 130 cap with +100% hp stat for dds
im not planning on replacing her until i get my jintsuu maxed
so jap servers are now at lvl 130? lol
it still wouldn't matter because dd lack utility outside of yukikaze
No, i'm just proposing an easy solution
Just you wait til Benson gets retro.
a dd going against bb aux gun has 0 chance of surviving long
then EssexE sleeper comp will bite 
im mostly using aya for her barrage
if all of those connects vs any ship, they're usually deleted
im already playin rng
might as well make it hard for myself
uss alyaska is your next azuma 
is it me or did they remove friedrich on the wiki
ah nvm im just blind
Zack, cvs are useless in w13, right? For dealing damage
cv are great in w13. u need them for aa and airspace control
with airspace control they deal a lot of dmg
in w13 ur pretty much forced in 1bb 2 cv comps
and bb only if u want to have a tank for suicide dmg
i only fought 13-1 but the boss itself is kind of week u just get murdered before by airstrikes
at the very least ur backlines cannot die to mogami but ur vg can.
My eyes
whether you like it or not, this is peak pvp performance
ykkz knows whats up
her face reminds me of that meme impossibru with an asian with narrow as fuck eyes
Well, 4 more hours
qe was the only one that didn't need flaagship. nice meme
i might be dead before maintenance gets done. rip pvp run
i lost 8 attempt right before main and because of maint
im rushing so i guess im safe
all 8 to sleep pretty much
hope clearing mode removes all the "fun" stuff in this event too and makes maps farmable
might be fun to play once but farming with extra stuff is so unfun
yeah i didn't get to finish another set of french toaster gun
just needed 2 of those before it ended
It's simple, dun farm 
pls add an auto run for the whole map so you wont have to move it
if i don't farm then why even bother playing al
my dockspace is being cucked by the new ships
the f2pleb in my soul is getting to me now


i guess i'll release those useless chinese ships
dragon empery? you mean dragon memery
i don't think i could play if i wouldn't keep all ships
they wont affect the faction bonus so its ok
i could try and get 200 gems during this event
i don't even care about fleet tech
if u care for that u have no life and spend all time leveling ship to 120
im not an uber neet so thats impossible for me
im not even finished with world 11 yet
even though i have 2 maxed out fleets for it
not gonna move forward until 6-4 gives me yuudachi
1st buy...
ty formidable

what a waste of pts but since i'm using her
ah thank you
um what are those BPs with rainbow background?
are those for the 2nd PR?
dr bps for azuma and fdg
the hell. so they're extra difficult to max?

also i'm definitely getting those meowficer crates
a lot more. they take 50% more bps then normal pr ships and have a lower bps drop
isnt 381 a kgv gun? or is this a different one
pr and dr don't really affect each other. all u choose is what research to do and u always do dr ones because by the time u get max dr u have already max all other pr ships
oh
that should be littorio gun
new triple 381 is littorio gun
kgv uses quad 356
yeah cuz her skill optimizes the range of the shot
if its with other ships, it just shoots everywhere
ye cuz it spreads so much
kgv gun is good for hitting vg in pvp
no, cause Numbers
no u
It's like on 9 place in dps of bb guns vs light and bottom for nmed/heavy
i think 30 cubes is not enough for this new event
but only kgv hits at a time that is useful

Cause kgv's skill, If not for that that gun would have been forgotten just like kgv
anyone using kgv unironically?
Yes, i do. In pvp 
rare hms
280 cubes for formidable here and got 4 zara in the process
is that a challenge hooloo?
I have 30 cubes
And i'll get all ships
by the end of this event, i'll have all the event ships

that kms frame is annoying af
spaghetti frame dun need mlbs tho
And mlb frames get casual +1 week after event ends
all the frames are shit cause they don't show oath.
Oath > border
Oh, HMS missions only part of frame missions
3k points total
golden chat bubble also worthless cause it doesn't show when doing emotes. And the only thing I type is [Headnod] with oathed Neptune secretary
u only get 900 from using hms
U dun need to mlb all event ships if u do hms missions
๐ซ
either way u need most ships
kek
My ajaxKai is like 110+
unless u get all 3 ssr
York sits in dorm
for a3/c3 u dun need high lvl
didnt know she had a retro
my york lvl 75 
gotta waste oil 10x
so 70 least
on trash map
well i got a 110 grandma and 100 boob carrier
instead of farming b
i guess im fine
or d
gonna force myself to use warspite in hard modes
why farm b maps?
just do 3x
yea daily 3x
c and d will come only 13th
last time, i used boob carrier for the black map
I used Lusty in 12
the last black sp is brutal
3x daily is not farming tho
capture the base bullshit
It is for me
idk man. there's too many goodies in the shop
if u are that casyal ok
I only do 3x and daily missions
fuck littorio
Imagine farming maps
no one wants her

Just do daily SP
800 points daily
u clear all needed stuff in shop w/ 3x, sp and dailies
And points from clearing all maps
if u only collect waifus why even bother playing. just do comm for gold and cubes
lol
i hate sp just cuz they always release b/d maps at 3am
To collect all waifus u need some points
im one of those autists who clears the first 8 map(casual/hard) then wait for the 2nd map to be released
IDK why u play waifu collector game if not for waifu tho
then expect u to clear d3 in 12hrs (not counting sleep) for sp
Are u nolyfing AL for some reason?
i collect waifus but dunno why i would play just for that
you do you, i do me, we wont do each other, thats how it should be
5 meters apart cuz we aint gay


No bully gae
cleveland wants to know your location
Gotta do those 3x 
this aa gimmick is horrendous. planes don't even pass where aa is
kek
just bring sandy problem solved
i don't want to fight a plane node every 2 steps
forgot her name cuz shes trash
There just 0 reason to do EX, 0 rewards
whats her sister name again
Tacao
lul
hmn
Ash
wat enty called again
on my server there are like 10 clears of ex at best
Ember and Ash
edgyprize
ic
Well, Jp has shittone of servers
during the scherzo event
btw i just noticed giulio is the ship dat warspite hit dat got her the divine marksman title 
lol
the bisko red damage thing and takao vg delet bullets made me avoid that shit
Also both 2 furthest hits were scored on the move
dun remember second ship aside warspite
they hit from same range
nani
so giulio got memed by grandma
therre was another ship aside warspite who scored hit from around same range
btw why is camilla a fucking rare ship? this is a crime
dont see it recorded anywhere but her name prob royal sovereign
only lolis should be rare

dont even know if theres such a record
torp have max range in al so it can only be 1
whats the name of that german bb who fires a torp
derp
every 10 seconds or something
its derp
tirpitz
Tirpits and sharks
kek
and the two sisters
her torps travels too far
yea hav rpg as new weapon
its amazing
i keep seeing that autists who wants to have nukes installed in subs
the first boat which had rockets
in every submarine comment
whats her name so she can be lewded


At the Battle of Baltimore in 1814, the rockets fired on Fort McHenry by the rocket vessel HMS Erebus were the source of the rockets' red glare described by Francis Scott Key in The Star-Spangled Banner.[51] Rockets were also used in the Battle of Waterloo.

erebus shooting rockets
infinite dankness
It was Erebus' grand grand grandma tho
retro soon
infinite darkness but it doesnt blacken the screen when it triggers
fake news
cool boss design
darken the screen so u cant see where ur ships going
then spam torps dat 1 shot
10/10 not broken
Better black hole + lasor
btw edgy takao's attacks are just re-skinned animations of kizuna ai boss
minus the laser
Best is just carpet bomb the screen, like tahoe tho, deleted even subs 
are italian ship skills posted already?
blackhole will be broken in pvp
Yeah
taihoe can actually delet subs too?
Look datamine
also yeah that blackhole shot is disgusting
if i didnt have eldridge, my fleet would be decimated
It's special kind of damage/weapon
wow did not expect that super long meint... anz idea time left?


aye
wow but just 120 mb somth not right
Ok, shit ships. what a surprise
dont complain man
i got shit internet
its gonna take 2 hours for 120mb
yes
it does
third world country also exists
I remember IDSL time oh boi
tbh just nuke us
or like ur not home and on some wifi that works like shit
yea 1am for me as well but 
formidable slow is so good against bomb boats lol
I wonder if they made italian ships to suit w13, with shields all over the place
We disigned our 1st local networks ourselves uniting 5 of local houses, Internet was rare in the days, so we had setup a server for that for local network lol
sleep < new pizza ships
lmao bomb boats insta stop
yeah. i'll be using her on the daily mission
those shield succ tho
imagine she had quick takeoff 
shields r gay
that is nto necessary tho but
There a place for new event ships tho
Still no Roma
r34
anyone expeciting italian ships to be good?
remember the nep event ships?
Roma is from Lirttorio class
4 iirc
we got 1 rn, so 2-3 are for future reruns
Littorio, Vittorio Veneto, Roma, Impero
litt being added in the event shop means its gonna be a bitch to pull her in the banner. fuck my life
30 cubes boy

my dock has no pathetic ships
Always did, always will
is the only thing i believe in
i just need formidable 
Every1 needs Formie in their lyfe
formidable's formidables are huge
no u
are u into big girls?



