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ionic magnet
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am i playing the same game

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tho i got 400+ now

elder crane
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I hit 500 before the Loliv2+556 debacle
And then cent debacle meant I'm still sub 400

shell heron
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hey since we're getting new ships soon. I hope they are somewhat pvp useful

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or I'll be building for waifu collecting again

violet sapphire
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fought someone 600 rank before me

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still get +10 points

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wot

elder crane
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Typical for mid season

shell heron
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it's by points. still weird someone 600 ranks below you has the same amount of points

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depends on your rank I guess

elder crane
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Mid season spread on points is not high yet but point req maxes out at admiral ranks

ionic magnet
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yea i wish new ships actually do something new so i have a reason to level them

shell heron
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things get weirder late season. that's when 35 point diff might not be a +1

violet sapphire
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hecc

shell heron
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Alabama does something. not for PvP, but pretty good for PvE

ionic magnet
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the reduce torp dmg taken?

shell heron
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but if you mean pvp only. Amagi was the latest "new" ship that really changed things

ionic magnet
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jkjk

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yea its been monthsss

shell heron
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didn't they nerf amagi before she even came out

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like her barrage proc rate was even higher on announcement

ionic magnet
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hmm not sure about that

shell heron
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I'm gonna need to find the pre release CN announcement to confirm that

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Whatever i guess warShrug

ionic magnet
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yea

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amagi will win popularity contest anyways

leaden jay
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So when's the meta lineup gonna change?

south ore
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amagi rerun when

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when pr2 comes out

ionic magnet
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well earlier than that should be warkai

trim horizon
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"change"

leaden jay
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Yeah, even with one ship change

shy hazel
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no

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its the opposite

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she was released with a barrage that was more powerful than what they planned to do

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and labeled it as "bug"

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then they fixed the "bug"

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then it broke like x3

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i dunno if the current barrage is still bugged or whatever

hot creek
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I think it still is. Unless the barrage randomly shooting a crappy opening V shape is intentional.

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if only it could always be that way

vague token
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i mean, she still has the busted aimed, high base damage ap not ap rounds anyways

twin vortex
elder crane
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The prerelease nerf was to her other skills

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Originally she was planned to have 15% main fleet eva and 12% stat reduction iirc

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It's a personal theory of mine that her barrage/stats was uptuned then though, cause devs thought she was too weak otherwise
Nobody knows ofc cause before release there's no way of knowing what barrage looks like (or skills/stats at all, but her skill desc. were leaked iirc)

shell heron
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that was probably it. the translation to the prerelease announcement was that she'll have a barrage

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the buff/debuff skills got toned down slightly, but she's still stupid op with all she has to offer

vague token
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just make all the other debuff ships work all the time X_x

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kizuna dd, 8% debuff all the time, every 20 seconds small chance to invert to a buff

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the risky business debuff

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;)

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tennessee, permanent stacking debuff whenever doing damage to an enemy, 1% per aux hit, 5% per shell hit

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disturbance shooting would be stacking debuff, like .25% per dd gun, 1% per torpedo

charred sable
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Going to sleep early today before reset because sick
Decides to burn all attack attempts just in case of oversleeping tomorrow's noon reset
Uses 4 attacks and gets rank 4
Refreshes 5 times and can't get anyone UniCry

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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hooloo u overusing that emote

vague token
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they're emotes, they're meant to be used a lot

ionic magnet
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says the one who spams uni emotes daily

cerulean estuary
shy hazel
jovial sedge
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Warkai will be after pr2 u know it

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And nerfed

stark raft
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Too much namayuu can do this to you folks BuckySmug

jovial sedge
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Wow ye well it got nothing to do with that just look on how they patch this game and be bit objective WarShrug

shy hazel
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uni is okay

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got alot of expressions

lament lichen
shy hazel
lament lichen
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My favorite

jovial sedge
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hmm pecorine is even leader of my favorite faction in shadowverse swordcraft ... but as always leaders are for gems

midnight heron
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ahh another day of fighting hax rng

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the underlvled excuse isnt gonna work anymore cuz my core ships r 120 except hiryuu 119

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now im certain oath bonuses r bs

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hope they never increase lvl cap cuz its just gonna get worse

vague token
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they'll probably add a separate progression that takes some new resource

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so everyone can approach it from 0

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xD

lean phoenix
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friend is confused as to how his karl keeps stealing mvp

shy hazel
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everyone else does shit damage

lean phoenix
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All are lv120

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save for roon

shy hazel
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skill levels?

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what map

shy hazel
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burn dmg probably

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technically karl refit should have bigger dmg than leipzig

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and none dev 30 roon isnt really that good

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and why does tirpitz have a shit gun

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bismarck as flagship has proc chance to barrage per volley

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that gun on tirp should be on bismarck

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not like it makes the damage less shitter tho

vague token
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just use monarch gun on biscuit

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gets you more fp, doesnt kill shelling damage, decent reload speed

shy hazel
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lol tho

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he 120'ed multiple meme ships

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with gears stopping at +9

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the dedication

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its over 9000 vs kiro

jovial sedge
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Peco peco did you play that princess connect game is it good?

shy hazel
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better than al

midnight heron
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so how do we even know who gets awarded the burn dmg in the results screen anyway

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since burns can be refreshed

shy hazel
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dunno its just a theory anyways

vagrant veldt
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I dont think the ancient bug of burn damage not being counted at the end is fixed

shy hazel
midnight heron
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like rly lul its one of the deeper mysteries of al

shy hazel
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i think you should ask cyaneko about it

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knows the coding

midnight heron
still minnow
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should I be spending my merit on bulins or purins?

midnight heron
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also i just noticed theres a button for crosswave ad on the login screen BuckySmug

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anything u need

still minnow
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theres no nobrainer pick in merit shop?

midnight heron
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all r no brainers

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cuz the shop refresh every day

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u take wat u need

still minnow
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I mean like white shell

midnight heron
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dats not in merit shop tho

still minnow
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wherein buying anything except white shell is a waste of your core data

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there is no merit equivalent

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?

midnight heron
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no

still minnow
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it's almost like pvp isn't a real gamemode and the merit shop isn't a real shop

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:Thonk

lean phoenix
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@shy hazel his goal is to make bismarck hit frontline with HE gun, then tirp unleashes AP on rear

midnight heron
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||its meant for tryhard to flex||

lean phoenix
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that of course, relies on the front dying before tirpi fires

still minnow
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okay cause I'm only doing it to get merit

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and the only reason I want to be high ranked is to get merit faster

lean phoenix
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i get purins from pvp

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great value

still minnow
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yeah the way I see it is free purins

midnight heron
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well i think most ppl who do pvp for practical purposes do it for the merit BuckySmug

lean phoenix
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^

midnight heron
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i pvp to complain how unbalanced dis game is

lean phoenix
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balance

still minnow
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most of the discussions I see in here are about optimizing your fleet to get it perfect

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or rushing to get rank 1st

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so I have not gotten that impression lol

midnight heron
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lul

lean phoenix
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this is a specialist channel, sort of

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with the occasional basic questions

still minnow
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me: shows dock
ppl: all your ships are bad and also all your equipment are bad

impyling that spending the time raising and enhancing PvP-only ships and equipment won't negate all the earnings I get from pvp

lean phoenix
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well some people are meta or bust

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to be fair possessing a strong pvp fleet whether or not u care about rank is a nice thing

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you do lose merit when you lose

shy hazel
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i mean its common sense that pvp in this game is shit

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nothing else to discuss but to maximize shit

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or shit on other peoples fleet

still minnow
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just replace the o in dock with an asterisk

lean phoenix
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polish shit

shy hazel
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and getting top 1

lean phoenix
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expand dong

still minnow
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that way you have plasible deniability when you talk about your d*ck

midnight heron
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lmao

shy hazel
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i mean why not

ionic magnet
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i see a kms fleet
A for effort BuckySmug

midnight heron
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if only pvp gave free dong space

shy hazel
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last time you show us your d*ck

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we all laugh

lean phoenix
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lol

still minnow
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I wish d*ck expansions were cheaper

lean phoenix
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LOL

midnight heron
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new meme

shy hazel
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next time someone asks here a question

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"show us your d*ock"

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oops

midnight heron
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show us ur d*ck and we'll help u

shy hazel
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missed

still minnow
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I tried it a few times in gameplay help and got warned

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:(

midnight heron
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lmao

shy hazel
lean phoenix
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oof

shy hazel
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ofc

ionic magnet
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lol

young trout
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Ok then

shy hazel
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gplay help is modded properly

young trout
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I'm the heretic using the ships

lean phoenix
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LOL

midnight heron
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wat

ionic magnet
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kms?

shy hazel
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aqua's friend

young trout
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yep

shy hazel
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probably

lean phoenix
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ye

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the kms memer

ionic magnet
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oh mad respect bruh

young trout
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Context he didn't tell you probably

ionic magnet
midnight heron
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well he showed us ur d*ck

young trout
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Karl is a placeholder

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I don't have a Deutschland-class

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That's what I want there

shy hazel
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who even uses karl in pvp

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oh

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i just found one

ionic magnet
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hows your fights vs cancers?

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aka namaryuus

young trout
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Terrible

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lol

ionic magnet
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lol

lean phoenix
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he fought me once

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didnt go well for him

young trout
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I go about 40/60 with the common Nakaga tho

lean phoenix
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40% winrate

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big oof

shy hazel
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terrible winning rates

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lol

lean phoenix
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this guy doesnt reset btw

young trout
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Positive WR if they're weak in some way

lean phoenix
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he just..accepts losses

midnight heron
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wat

shy hazel
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its memestic anyways

young trout
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Resetting is cheaty

shy hazel
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@vague token

ionic magnet
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hmm p bad but hey atleast someone tried

shy hazel
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compete fast

young trout
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I'd rather my WR reflected my actual winrate

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.>

midnight heron
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wont call it cheaty if so much of the game mechanics is rng MutsukiCurse

young trout
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RNG is a balancing factor

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Ofc B7S is busted if it fires 100% of the time

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Which you can assure

lean phoenix
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consistency

young trout
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By resetting 100% of the times that doesn't happen

shy hazel
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why is some of your guns even +9

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is that a ritual or something

young trout
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Because plates

shy hazel
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i tot it was some kind of voodoo

young trout
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No

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Just poor

lean phoenix
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but ye his idea is to nuke front with bismarck HE then nuke rear with tirp AP

shy hazel
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well

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im not the person to ask about that i geuss

lean phoenix
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the problem is bismarck hitting is a lower occurence than even a CV

shy hazel
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i never cared about bullet types

lean phoenix
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and if bisko does not kill front

midnight heron
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the only way u can claim balance to me if its a real time player controlled match, but dats another topic

lean phoenix
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then tirp fires ap at the front

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so that goes to shit

young trout
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And the 410 on Tirp has a really slow RoF, so Bisko kinda doesn't want it

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And they hit about as hard as each other anyway in my experience running this since I got it online

still minnow
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realtime pvp would just switch the meta to biggest bombs and parallell torps imo

lean phoenix
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well

still minnow
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it would just change the problems not solve them

young trout
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Yeah- player attacks aren't designed to be dodged either

midnight heron
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let bisco die then tirpits does 30% more dmg BuckySmug

shy hazel
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the pvp beta or pvp prototype was realtime

young trout
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That's a thing that happens, Halo

shy hazel
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tho its only realtime for the offense

young trout
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It very occasionally wins me matches

lean phoenix
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pearl tears on bismarck

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for that purpose

young trout
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Yeah fck no

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lol

ionic magnet
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lol

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big brain

midnight heron
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dats y i say realtime is another topic lul so i wanna stop dat discussion EntyScared

vagrant veldt
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doesn't bismarck buff gets removed

midnight heron
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no

lean phoenix
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bismarck buff does nto require "ship is afloat" iirc

shy hazel
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big brain stats

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put pearl in bisko

midnight heron
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i rmb someone posting a vid of tirp doing like 7k dmg to backline

vagrant veldt
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I remember first day bismarck sunk and roon lost the buff effect

midnight heron
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after bisco died

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lmao

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on a crit ofc

young trout
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Yeah, Bismarck and Tirpitz buffs DO stack

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It's more mitigating the bad news that is "Bismarck sank"

lean phoenix
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so Martyr Bismarck strat confirmed

midnight heron
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seems more like a last resort tho

young trout
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It is

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It's just a feature of the comp, it's not something to build around

lean phoenix
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I hope one day your Wehraboo desires are satisfied

young trout
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vagrant veldt
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I wished hood never sank

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and then see what they will brag about

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probably nothing and then cease to exist

ionic magnet
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have you considered adding jun and ykkz to your VG

young trout
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I know they're good

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I'm not doing it though

lean phoenix
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hood retro would just be QE powercreep

ionic magnet
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i see

young trout
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I know what the copypaste metacancer frontline is

ionic magnet
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full immersion

young trout
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I'm deliberately not using it

lean phoenix
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bravery, or stupidity

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hmm

midnight heron
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i use it and i still get rekt BuckySmug

young trout
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Honor

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So basically both

lean phoenix
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I do like Nakaga in WOWS tho

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so uh, thats my excuse

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by that I mean Nagato and Kaga

young trout
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Sure

lean phoenix
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no akagi in WOWS

midnight heron
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wow

young trout
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WoWS is the only reason I bothered leveling Gneisenau

vagrant veldt
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nagato and kaga in wows AkagiLUL

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gneisenau in wows AkagiLUL

midnight heron
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do they hav big7 in wows BuckySmug

young trout
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Yeah, it's called overmatch memes

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Most nose armor they see just does nothing and dies

midnight heron
young trout
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tl;dr it's hard to defend against 406mm guns

lean phoenix
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*410

young trout
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(or in Nagato's case, 410mm guns)

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I WAS GETTING TO THAT, YOU CRETIN.

lean phoenix
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you see, 4mm on a circle is a big deal

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especially the bigger it is

midnight heron
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well then next question: r there firework guns in there BuckySmug

lean phoenix
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Sanshikidans?

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dont think so

midnight heron
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ya

young trout
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German BB guns never hit anything

lean phoenix
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just regular flak

young trout
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So it's effectively fireworks

midnight heron
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imagine memeing ur enemies with fireworks

young trout
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You can take an Atlanta or smth to just lob a constant rainbow of shells at them

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Kinda similar

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lol

lean phoenix
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sadly no san diego

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for some reason

midnight heron
lean phoenix
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they only got atlanta and flint

young trout
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because we have 2 atlanta-class already

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why need 3?

lean phoenix
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yeah and they did not pick San Diego

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utterly disappointing

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@young trout btw my fleet is no longer T0, that is now taken by Namaryuu, so dun hate on me

young trout
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In optimal form we're both T1

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Right now

lean phoenix
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your KMS? T1?

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uhh

young trout
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I'm not doing that, you're doing a different spin

lean phoenix
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T2 maybe

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on the level of sodakwash

young trout
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What I'm doing is probably T2, yeah

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But the Metacancer Copypaste variant is T1

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But I'd rather be T2 with a fair fleet

lean phoenix
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oh, the variant that uses the typical meta vg with KMS main

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umm

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its all fair

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all meta comps can beat each other

young trout
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Yeah, and Roon instead of Sanrui

lean phoenix
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even down to t2

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it is fine

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of course, considering resets

young trout
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Ofc I plan to swap Karl for Spee as soon as I can

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once she shows up

lean phoenix
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the problem is if you wanna fight my nakaga your vg is just outright vulnerable to me

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big, heavy, slow ships that dont evade much

young trout
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Yep, unfortunately.

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I have to bank on them killing yours somehow

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They should be tanky enough to last through one strike

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One

lean phoenix
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and since you refuse to reset

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I might never see you beat my def once

young trout
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And that might just be the way of things.

lean phoenix
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lv120 dev30 roon might survive

young trout
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Spee has HP and GZ DR

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In theory

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ofc I don't have her

lean phoenix
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i have proven the DR is just insufficient considering just the sheer weight of dmg i carry

young trout
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Sure

lean phoenix
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evasion works a lot better

young trout
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Granted

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But KMS doesn't have evasion on its good ships, and it also has no smokers

midnight heron
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just run rudder + boiler SandyMeme and run

young trout
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I plan to do that for Spee, believe me

lean phoenix
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yeah but

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even then

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if my 818 hits your vg

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its over

young trout
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Yeahhh

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I might just build Spee for Full DPS

lean phoenix
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you move like a snail at that point

midnight heron
lean phoenix
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no

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full dps build on vg is shit

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might as well attempt for survival

young trout
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Prob'ly

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Anyway I gtg for now

lean phoenix
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bai

young trout
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Nice talking with you all

midnight heron
lean phoenix
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he used to run nakaga

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but he decided to go full kms

midnight heron
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but then he took a namaryuu to the knee

lean phoenix
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out of spite of meta

midnight heron
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lulul

lean phoenix
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namaryuu in my experience isnt too bad of a pain

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at least, when i finally closed the level gap

midnight heron
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its k pvp is AkashiSleep anyway

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just like dis channel

lean phoenix
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ded chat

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archive pls

shy hazel
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there is no hard fleet in this game

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only stall

lean phoenix
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^

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that is, until hiryuu kai

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but warspitekai comes first anyway

sharp wing
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Hiryuu kai just make cancer a bit stronger, doesn't change anything that we have atm

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And before some brainded start whining about the order we get patches, aside from global events, we get stuff in same order, as JP servers

jovial sedge
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stella and but that game is not en localized is it

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ye well and not know-all asshole cos patches are differently implemented ... so its not same experience asian al community lived through

ionic magnet
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its getting personal in here EntyLUL

midnight heron
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but im asian

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anyway u dont needa localise if u learn jap SandyMeme

jovial sedge
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ye cos of princess connect ill learn jap

midnight heron
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tho i personally find reading jap/chinese characters a pain in the ass

jovial sedge
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i mean in the end its better thing to do than play degen waifu game

midnight heron
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add korean in there as well but its not like i speak those languages except chinese

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its just very different from how u read english

sharp wing
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In what way patches are implemented differently?

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Stop talking out of yr asshole

midnight heron
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i think he means en can patch differently but we dont need to get u81punchy in here

jovial sedge
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or you calm down and rather bring normal answers instead every single time putting some subjective evaluation in it

sharp wing
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Subjective here is only yr whiny ass lmao

jovial sedge
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sad Ive tried but you are proving more and more that you are complete human failure WarShrug

sharp wing
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lol

midnight heron
sharp wing
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U tried to be dege as much as u could, yeah UniSip

jovial sedge
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hard to argue with full retardation

sharp wing
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Indeed.

jovial sedge
ionic magnet
midnight heron
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damn son

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inb4 u inspect and its eva up

ionic magnet
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wait what eva up

sharp wing
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Si that AA up?

midnight heron
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yea theres trashy eva up talent

jovial sedge
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RIP

midnight heron
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+3 eva max rank MutsukiCurse

sharp wing
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Helsman

midnight heron
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those symbols dont rly tell u much till u inspect

shy hazel
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language is a problem to me whatever

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my work is about finance and handling japanese documents anyways

sharp wing
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onr of FP buffs have AA icon

shy hazel
shy hazel
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technically i have translator license

ionic magnet
midnight heron
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wow god roll lul

sharp wing
midnight heron
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hax

ionic magnet
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ikr

shy hazel
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i never even touch cats

ionic magnet
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cats best feature

sharp wing
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I got SR w/ EXP skill...

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dupe food it is

midnight heron
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ofc u dont touch cats unless u a furry

sharp wing
midnight heron
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also who made dat list

sharp wing
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iirc it is considered mem list

ionic magnet
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those cat pics tho

shy hazel
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i mean its a meme but its accurate

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tbh

sharp wing
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Also still question about hw those -air strike affect ambush chance

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just make ambush to be more likely to be ambush fleet instead of air raid

midnight heron
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depends on how its coded

sharp wing
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Well, that's the question

midnight heron
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more imptly tho is the small chance worth it

sharp wing
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one of em apparently has a chance to negate air strike

midnight heron
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cuz last i heard its negligible

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might as well use other buff cats for combat

sharp wing
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well ye

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My 1st SR was Bish UniHurt

shy hazel
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its almost negligible because it relies on a stat

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that will make the boost only like what

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3% at max

sharp wing
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3% ambush reduction is big tho

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It won't be near that much probably

shy hazel
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depending on the map

sharp wing
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On any map

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When u get ambushes at 99% UniHurt

midnight heron
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dont think dats even possible lul

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for high lvl maps

sharp wing
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yeah

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maps have initial "threat value"

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or how is it called

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The higher chapter, the bigger value

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Ah, chapters have 2 values: Map Survey Value that affects encounter rate (aka safe movement distance) and Map avoidance Value (aka chance to escape ambush fleet)

midnight heron
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if those cats gave 100% evade then i'll use them BuckySmug

sharp wing
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That would be rigged

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And bishu would be actually good

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It's more about her retarded lvl 3 skill tho

midnight heron
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idk her skill tho

sharp wing
#

at lvl 3 she needs a backline of Solo CV

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give faster airsytrike and barrage

midnight heron
#

lmao

sharp wing
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IKR

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SOlo CV backline

midnight heron
#

see dis is y i ask

sharp wing
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And her SG skill only at lvl 2

midnight heron
#

quite pointless to use these cats if u can just use better buff cats instead

sharp wing
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Well, on the bright side she reaches her top performance on lvl2 skill only after 1 dupe UniHurt

midnight heron
#

also i shall call them bats from now cuz buff + cats = bats

sharp wing
shy hazel
#

cycats

midnight heron
#

god rolled buff cat = goldbat

shy hazel
#

well

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we dont need to think of terms for them

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its not for pvp anyways

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we only think of he weird terms when pvp is related

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baga EntyLUL

midnight heron
#

and then 1 fine day they decide to implement it for pvp UniYan

shy hazel
#

then we will think of it

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which cat is the best

midnight heron
#

yea dat definitely doesnt sound wrong in any way

sharp wing
jovial sedge
safe meteor
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does sandy kai have any use in pvp?

vagrant veldt
#

no.jpg

ionic magnet
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she's one of the okay-ish ships

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just not on the most recommended tier

midnight heron
#

u can use her against nakaga >:D

river crest
#

I think sandy is best of the class in terms of AA but in a meta where the strongest line ups are only using 1 carrier or less... she's not really that useful... she's only useful against triple carrier or maybe 2 carrier fleets

sharp wing
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Junie already covers AA, and vs foxes Bel more usefull anyway

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non foxes 2cv+ comps are meme anyway

twin vortex
#

Smoke screen bel is good

lament iris
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How do you get the most leaderboard score in pvp battles
Is it random
Is it attacking the highest level enemy
Is it attacking the highest battle score enemy
Is it attacking the highest fleet power enemy
Is it the durration of the battle that counts towards the score
Is it the ships remaining alive on your fleet that count towards the score?

elder crane
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check pins, scroll down a bit to PvP mechanics for details
(and there is some stuff about scoring that isn't known yet)

ionic magnet
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your score depends only on 1 thing. point difference between you and your opponent

sharp wing
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And not ladder Rank, but the pvp score (poins)

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Cause some ppl get confused

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each 35 score difference yields +1 bonus to default battle reward score

midnight heron
#

so many questions in 1 post lul

jovial sedge
twin vortex
elder crane
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35 score *at end season

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iirc, admiral ranks

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before that it's much less, unknown exact value

shell heron
#

Would nice to get some numbers for early in the season. Should keep note if I manage to get a top 100 on my list next time

ionic magnet
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that guy got banned for 1 day apparently

midnight heron
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???

twin vortex
ionic magnet
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for "flexing" they say

midnight heron
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wats there to flex in gameplay help lul

ionic magnet
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if mods treat this channel the same way, noone will be left here

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lol

stark raft
velvet oracle
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Yo, does the "put the squishiest ship in the middle" thing still apply in PvP?

stark raft
#

Kinda, your mid will get splashed by torps though so off tank is kinda better until your VG wins

ionic magnet
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and when your lead VG dies, the middle one then tanks most of the hits next

elder crane
#

But given life expectancy of squishy ships, mid imo still better

stark raft
#

Most have Jun lead though so it depends more on what VG you have

elder crane
#

those don't last long enough for the "lead ship dead" case to matter, and trailing ship before then takes more damage (enough to kill them usually)

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Well Jun isn't actually that squishy

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Compare to the real squishies of Aurora, and, erm, Aya I suppose?
Sendai technically as well I suppose

stark raft
#

Well if your mid is Nanoda does she really tank shots? Nanoda

elder crane
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Nanoda usually by a good deal outlasts lead though

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so she's better trailing

ionic magnet
#

its more of a case to case thing imo
atleast for aurora i prefer to put her mid yea

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mostly cos she can die after 20-30 secs

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her job is done already

stark raft
#

Yep ppl with PR have Jun lead with pearl, others have mid/off pearl

elder crane
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she will often sink before a lead juneau

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so yeah LeanderXD

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I still think leading with PR is better, especially if it's Louis

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Lead Jun in Aurora team is already very UniHurt

twin vortex
velvet oracle
#

okay thanks guys

ionic magnet
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oh you better hide

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im calling police

velvet oracle
#

I learned a lot of shit from the pins, plane hp is quadrupled what lol

ionic magnet
elder crane
#

yeah, AA damage is only useful for reducing crash damage

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vs an actual setup you'll shoot down only a few planes

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and almost never before they drop bomb/torp

velvet oracle
#

Oh yeah, does Lucky E increase kamikaze damage?

ionic magnet
#

jun lead is really bad for def but its perfect for offense from my matches

elder crane
#

idk I find mid to be much more consistent
no random torp/Nagato barrage deletions

ionic magnet
#

would be nice if we can put different gears for off/def

elder crane
#

and w 1-2 engine she's squish enough to sink at a good timing there

coral wren
#

Oh yeah, does Lucky E increase kamikaze damage?
probably yes

ionic magnet
#

yea id go with jun mid also if im not using aurora

midnight heron
#

for me position dont rly matter cuz lul ai

stark raft
#

Yeah I don't mind jun dying

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She's a speed limiter for cockroach gang

ionic magnet
elder crane
#

Most losses with Aurora team are in part due to a Jun deletion early

#

With stall, leading Jun, that's an issue too
though since my pref nonPR stall is Sheff, lead Jun there is mostly fine

midnight heron
#

dats y sheff is waifu AkashiHide

sharp wing
sharp wing
#

So they actually give York retro before part 2...

lament lichen
#

During part 2 Kisabucky

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Yeah like i really want to waste my gold for a retro

sharp wing
elder crane
#

Hey I'm already buying cat boxes with spare gold
Can probs afford her retro
Does mean I'll probs have to start X-2 HMs soon, this'll put me below 20 gold cruiser BPs

lament lichen
sharp wing
midnight heron
#

im actually running out of cv/bb ones instead MutsukiCurse

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cuz who even farms x-3/x-4

twin vortex
#

I think so much Sandy people in here

ripe latch
coral wren
#

Avrora gang

lament lichen
#

Nah

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We just lurk

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And meme

#

All saras

wicked rivet
#

i farmed hardmode for SR ships so i have a ton of BP

#

and no retros to use em on

sharp wing
#

I farm 8-2 all the time now

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I use sos for SR farm

#

Got 8-1 DD from HM pretty fast, but 8-2 is stubborn

vague token
#

sara/essex is legit SandyMeme

#

no need for foxes ;)

coral wren
#

Haha you said se

shy hazel
#

people here mostly from avrora and sandy iirc

#

only kiro is in the saratoga server

stark raft
trim horizon
#

tired no PR BPs in medal shop yet

#

they probably forgot about that

sharp wing
#

Are u high

trim horizon
#

CN/JP have PR BPs in Medal exchange

sharp wing
#

I thought about pvp shop

violet sapphire
#

is sanrui good for pvp

vague token
#

she is a soft counter to aurora

trim horizon
#

you don't need her

vague token
#

but not good in most scenarios

trim horizon
#

she takes a lot of time, not worth for what you get

violet sapphire
#

idk seems pretty tanky to me
35% HE seems sweet too

vague token
#

depending on how many barrages trigger sub 20, belfast is far tankier and helps the entire team

#

and has similar damage due to her own HE skill and CL guns having less restrictive firing arcs

violet sapphire
#

isnt 155 going to miss alot tho

sharp wing
#

Not at dogfights

vague token
#

you'll hit at least 1 shot

violet sapphire
#

whats a dogfight lmao

vague token
#

even at longer ranges you waste very little damage

trim horizon
ionic magnet
#

CA guns miss a lot more

vague token
#

compared to mle just not being able to lock on

#

also note that CAs have lower base accuracy

ionic magnet
#

especially against speedy VGs

vague token
#

compounded with the fact that sanrui has 0 base luck

#

compared to belfast she's down 8.8% hit rate purely from luck

violet sapphire
vague token
#

and 23 accuracy

#

so 2/3 of an sg

sharp wing
#

Basically PR1 is skippable, if u not in HMS ghetto UniSip

violet sapphire
#

u mean PR2 isnt?

vague token
#

oh and nep nep is probably tankier in total hp

#

outside of aurora scenarios

ionic magnet
#

well monarch is skippable too tbh

sharp wing
#

PR2 has Azuma

ionic magnet
#

and nep

#

PR1s are just flex picks

vague token
#

roon is definitely good for pve though

#

xD

sharp wing
#

Well, for PVE that's other question

ionic magnet
sharp wing
#

And on the other hand u won't really use Azuma in pve

vague token
#

my personally belief is that belfast/aurora/sheffield/nepnep are the best options

ionic magnet
#

id take monarch over roon for pve

vague token
#

belfast if you think they gonna barrage every time under 20 but not after

ionic magnet
vague token
#

aurora for offense

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sheffield for long durability game

#

nep nep for being solo tank

sharp wing
#

sheffield for masochists

ionic magnet
#

lol

sharp wing
shell heron
#

Sanrui is decent. There are times where she outlives my ykk

vague token
#

oh, i forgot ibuki for the torp

ionic magnet
#

yea shes still a very good tank

shell heron
#

But that just means she didn't NANODA hard enough

vague token
#

personally the torps are more reliable than sanrui's gun

#

xD

#

covers more area

#

more odds of hitting

sharp wing
#

Kraken BuckySmug

vague token
#

you also get 2 chances before pretty much anyone shoots you

#

or puts up defensive skills

ionic magnet
#

sanrui acts as 2nd ykkz basically

vague token
#

while sanrui typically barrages into smoke

shell heron
#

Double waves of torp with crit up can decide the vg fight in the first 5 seconds BuckySmug

sharp wing
#

yeet or be yeeten

ionic magnet
vague token
shell heron
#

Maybe im just biased because I already invested a lot into sanrui warShrug

sharp wing
#

Justify it more

trim horizon
shell heron
#

When i get nep dev30 and fate2 min, and she performs better than sanrui

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Sanrui is going on dock overwatch duty EntyHeh

sharp wing
violet sapphire
#

does washing machine on backline works

trim horizon
#

it's BiS for eHP

violet sapphire
#

or am I better off with SG

vague token
#

i also invested a lot

sharp wing
#

u can put rudder on flag

vague token
#

xD

ionic magnet
#

SG vs rudder is ~7% eva rate/hit rate tradeoff

sharp wing
#

Funny to see those Ryusseis miss/no damage

ionic magnet
#

its mostly preference

trim horizon
#

waiting for Sanrui oath

sharp wing
#

sanrui was instant oath

#

but not gonna dev her

shell heron
#

She's been oathed UniSip

trim horizon
#

dev30 and 200 aff in 1 month or so even used cube research SanruiStare used 0 times in PvE beside the aff/lvl process

sharp wing
#

Waifus are priceless

coral wren
#

facing HLV again and I still can't over why he named his ships this way

ionic magnet
#

cos im salty

#

LOL

sharp wing
coral wren
#

Did

#

Did you not get Amagi

ionic magnet
#

its nagato

#

of all ships

coral wren
sharp wing
empty grove
trim horizon
#

got +1 and then r1

ionic magnet
trim horizon
sharp wing
empty grove
coral wren
#

Now I am facing Blue

#

That's #37 for him showing up in my exercises

lament lichen
#

I almost forgot about pvp

sharp wing
vague token
shy hazel
coral wren
#

Dem rush

lament lichen
#

For that 5 seconds of fame

twin vortex
#

Wew Sandy detected

#

And another sandbag

midnight heron
#

not sure if anyone else noticed but ive gotten a few matches whereby enemy backline has 1 enemy left (most of the time either the top or bottom) and my hiryuu only launches like 3 torps instead of 9 or smth

coral wren
#

Is Sandy-kai numbah wan in PvP yet?

midnight heron
#

no SandyCry

coral wren
#

What'd be the best current US vanguard that doesn't involve Juneau?

midnight heron
#

none cuz all r trash

vague token
#

what the

#

someone just had pearl tears on amagi

stark raft
midnight heron
#

they sad

vague token
#

that's some next level meme

stark raft
#

was it that rare mid amagi too

vague token
#

na top

#

it was hood mid

#

xD

coral wren
#

I want to believe that Essex/Enty/Ranger/Sandy/Aurora/Sirius could have some merit.

#

It's probably not true, but I want to believe none the less.

shell heron
#

That just sounds like slower foxes to me

trim horizon
#

New pasta announced

midnight heron
trim horizon
#

:s

coral wren
#

More potential damage than foxes I'd imagine.

ionic magnet
#

new pasta?

trim horizon
#

CA

ionic magnet
#

hmm elite yea?

shy hazel
#

rare

#

blue

ionic magnet
#

oh

coral wren
#

What boat is that?

shy hazel
#

trent

#

or maybe torento

coral wren
#

Into the trash she goes.

ionic magnet
#

no S = rare EntyLUL

shy hazel
#

dunno if its hms or rn

#

no voice actress too

trim horizon
#

🚮

#

Trento-class lma

stark raft
#

Trento, CA

#

Event reward as well

trim horizon
#

That's my city

#

Lmao

stark raft
#

Looks like a camilla clone but im all for it BuckySmug

shy hazel
#

The River class is a ship class of British-designed frigates built and operated during World War II. One hundred and fifty-one frigates were built, and these were operated by seven different nations during the war.

#

sounds meh

trim horizon
#

Rare, so trash alrdy

midnight heron
#

inb4 its rare dat beats ssr BuckySmug

shy hazel
#

thats only phoenix and jun

trim horizon
#

Phx in pvp

stark raft
#

Dont expect these ships to be any decent in pvp

ionic magnet
#

plenty of rares are better than prinz

stark raft
midnight heron
#

be very afraid

vague token
#

leip is rare xD

ionic magnet
#

with those thighs she's already better than most ships

trim horizon
#

So she's shop ?

stark raft
#

event reward

trim horizon
#

Wat rarity was the DD

vague token
#

oops there goes a match

#

got into a fight on gw2 xD

#

it's fine essex isnt 120 yet

#

nor baltimore

#

just getting free xp so

coral wren
#

That ship looks like camilla from fe lol

leaden jay
#

I somehow lost my PvP matchup

#

I wanna die cuz I didn't look at their lineup xD

stark raft
#

Proper fleets only lose to irl sleep

vague token
#

or other games ;)

sharp wing
#

Life of a memer. UniSip

lament lichen
#

Whoops

#

I forgot pvp

stark raft
lament lichen
#

I can casual now

jovial sedge
empty sinew
#

true man of culture

frail ruin
#

Is San Diego Retrofit good for all PvP teams?

#

I don't really see anyone running her

lean phoenix
#

meh

ionic magnet
#

she's just "okay"

#

not the most recommended

midnight heron
#

dis is da first time i cant understand wat u sayin

coral wren
#

Then: sandy good
Now: sandy bad

jovial sedge
ripe latch
#

proportions BuckySmug

midnight heron
#

who cares tho its make believe BuckySmug

zenith tundra
#

she is cute tho

vague token
sharp wing
ripe latch
midnight heron
#

waiting for formidable BuckySmug

midnight heron
#

i'll hav u know i'd served aboard the formidable before

#

diff formidable dat is BuckySmug

sharp wing
#

Was she as "Formidable"

midnight heron
#

cant say cuz she didnt get made into anime waifu BuckySmug

#

also not a cv MutsukiCurse

sharp wing
#

But yeah, a gothic not loli AkagiYan

#

A Formidable threat to waifu values BuckySmug

midnight heron
#

with soft landing SandyMeme

sharp wing
midnight heron
sharp wing
#

Lusty got a rival

#

White vs Black UniSip

#

Add RNGer to make it a 3 way BuckySmug

#

Red joins the fray

#

MutsukiHyperStare I didn't see this coming

midnight heron
#

rng too big tho not my type EntyScared

sharp wing
midnight heron
#

im low on moh also just cuz no event = no farm

sharp wing
midnight heron
sharp wing
#

Feed medals to Waifus

midnight heron
#

gimme

sharp wing
#

It's a closed cycle

#

U make medals from waifus

#

Then feed medals in form of food to waifus

#

Feeding waifus directly would be too gore

#

Had to farm a bit to get gold book today and get to 0

midnight heron
sharp wing
vague token
#

o.o

still minnow
#

add rnger to make it red

victorious definitely brings the red personality already

#

I don't think that's necessary

jovial sedge
#

Dunno even how timo react to this

sharp wing
#

Vicky is blond UniSip

#

That makes it 4 way

#

Forgot about reset, but list ded anyway

vague token
#

i had 4 bonuses last night before i ate that loss xD

sharp wing
#

I missed 2 resets UniSip

still minnow
#

victorious is actually nuts change my mind

zenith tundra
#

how did u lose...

daring fractal
#

ay not everyone pays attention to the game all the time

zenith tundra
#

just run a comp that doesn't lose

sharp wing
#

Some ppl don't have 120 namayuu u know

#

The matter of fact

daring fractal
#

even if you run "the best" comp its still purely chance based

#

40% barrage, 70% barrage, amagi randomly criting someone and one shotting them

zenith tundra
#

u can only to certain mirrors tbh.

trim horizon
vague token
#

i mean im leveling essex and baltimore

sharp wing
#

U can lose if u put amagi vs amagi and rng BuckySmug

vague token
#

i got distracted so

sharp wing
#

Those Dragon fights

vague token
#

essex 108 getting barraged is like insta death

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

i mean if u don't position properly it's ur fault

sharp wing
#

lol

vague token
#

2k+ crits

sharp wing
#

I mean u know how ppl lose now

vague token
#

amagi gets to choose who she aims 234 ap rounds at

#

not positioning

sharp wing
#

She choose the thicc one

vague token
#

those are full rng 1/6 to hit the one you want

#

my poor CAs =/

#

eating barrage damage

sharp wing
#

They are poor indeed

zenith tundra
#

i only really lose if i'm like 0-2 nagato barrages and amagi not using her too once

sharp wing
vague token
#

die before hiryuu qq

trim horizon
sharp wing
#

U torment yr waifus

#

U are unworthy of Sara

vague token
#

gotta get oil free xp

#

a loss is ok

#

when i can randomly get essex mvp

#

xD

sharp wing
zenith tundra
#

what kind of sandbagger loses to level up ships...

sharp wing
#

Sara looks disappointed

daring fractal
#

the type that doesn't care much about rank?

vague token
#

i mean i was trying to watch

zenith tundra
#

why even bother sandbagging then

vague token
#

i got into a fight in gw2

#

big distraction

#

xD

sharp wing
trim horizon
#

did you win there at least

vague token
#

had to murder a fool

#

yes

sharp wing
vague token
#

then he brought 5 friends

#

so i died

#

1v6 rip

sharp wing
#

So u got a double QEQ

trim horizon
#

BuckySmug so you lost in both games

vague token