pvp

[split marten]

Is Belfast meta?

I never felt threatened by her

Every time I kill her

[jovial sedge]

It would if released properly

[cerulean estuary]

i agree belfast is far more useful than sandy kai on pvp

i onl put sandy for meme reason

[vague token]

belfast is anti fox and just good all around stats

[sharp wing]

Stall vg is no threat on def lol

[jovial sedge]

But smae fate as wasde

[lament lichen]

Most teams have no threat on def

[split marten]

But Akaga is barely meta

[sharp wing]

It is rusher meta

[jovial sedge]

But i still use muricans hms not ready yet also working on pet project will see if it can pull anything

[shy hazel]

old meta

[split marten]

You mean with like torpmemes and shit?

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

and still very popular comp on Sandy and other new servers

[trim horizon]

as long as you have Jun/Ykkz you can put whoever you want anyway

[lament lichen]

Akaga meta was 100

[jovial sedge]

Bleh that cat

[lament lichen]

Theres no reason to not have juneau

[sharp wing]

Well, for foxes u go all offense

[split marten]

People only still use Akaga cause too lazy to swap

[sharp wing]

U either fast reset or fast win anyway

[split marten]

It’s really not that good

[jovial sedge]

Its fast u was told some prefere that

[sharp wing]

Ppl use Akaga for fast rush

[split marten]

I guess, so go Akaga with torpmemes

[cerulean estuary]

hood + fox sisters META , ah the good old days

[split marten]

For maximum speed

[sharp wing]

making 5 matvches w/ akaga even w/ resets is faster, than w/ cancer

cancer is slow, but almost 100% winrate

[jovial sedge]

Anything faster than that tho

[sharp wing]

so pick one depending what u aim for

[split marten]

Why was hood + akaga the old meta? Like why shove hood in there?

[sharp wing]

Nothing else

Hood speeds up reload

[split marten]

Nagato not released yet huh

[cerulean estuary]

hood , when there is no nagato or amagi that time

[sharp wing]

Nagato is recent

Amagi released January

Amagi Foxes was older thing

Nagato Foxes newer thing

Hood Foxes very old thing

or Hood Enty + 1 more CV

[split marten]

Ancient dinosaur shit

[coral wren]

you forgot foxes enty

[sharp wing]

lol

those sidekicks are...

Hiryuu foxes

[coral wren]

well, speaking of ancient shit, hms was using cygnet and leander for god knows what reason, because bel's smokescreen was more than enough

[shy hazel]

do u know what meta was golden

wasdaryuu

[sharp wing]

lmao

Old days w/ Irisviel in PVP

[vague token]

what

you forgot that all other standard smoke is start of battle

[jovial sedge]

Hmm just fought full blooded murican maxed oathed nc yorktown enty

[vague token]

it's meant to stall out torp memes

[split marten]

CLs are preferred to CAs? Or doesn’t really matter?

[shy hazel]

cas die fast

[sharp wing]

There only 2 CAs for pvp

[vague token]

most CAs are made of paper

[sharp wing]

Saint and Ibuki

[vague token]

and are also slow

and their relative damage to HP is bad

[sharp wing]

rest CAs are food

[vague token]

and CA guns have a more restrictive angle

[coral wren]

i don't remember opening torps being a problem at all

[vague token]

in 110 suicide torps was strong

because you pushed out either vanguard

and went straight to 0 rng shelling phase

[split marten]

How many viable destroyers? Ykkz, ayaya for torpmemes...

[coral wren]

ykkz wasn't around at that time

[split marten]

No I mean now

[cerulean estuary]

fortune mod or eldidrge

[split marten]

How many DDs are viable?

[coral wren]

yuki only

[jovial sedge]

I miss escort it wqs actully cool mod somth different from everyday shit

[split marten]

Almost forgot about Eldridge tbh

[coral wren]

if you run 2 dds and a jin, you will get murdered and your torps will be dodged with a higher chance

[split marten]

That’s some fun tanking shit

[jovial sedge]

Eldrige is all luck procs

[vague token]

eldridge is more like pray you hit 20+ oh wait

you got big sevened 5 seconds ago

and because eldridge has terrible speed

you probably ate all of it

[midnight heron]

and then u meet enemy eldridge who can survive big7

[coral wren]

Oh wait, actually yes. When jin was released, cygnet and leander were both used for opening smokes, you are right

[vagrant veldt]

shelling still sets the vanguard on fire

[coral wren]

But i don't remember if sheff was around at that time as well

[jovial sedge]

Ye well eld dies right in start of match rip

[vagrant veldt]

big seven isnt necessary

[vague token]

sheff wasnt quite there i think

during torp meme

[sharp wing]

Sheff is much later

in March

Dork, Siri, Sheff same event

Rushers unite

[coral wren]

What are you talking about

All I see is Amagi

@ionic magnet

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Lmao, only 1 hood's barrage shell actually hit

[ionic magnet]

amagi who? i never put her mid

nakaga slayer

[shy hazel]

hooloo was hiryuu slayer

[jovial sedge]

[shy hazel]

on monarch

[sharp wing]

More like slacker

[ionic magnet]

yea feelsbad for monarch

got memed hard

[sharp wing]

You can meme Mona all u want.

She only cares about Skkn and HMS

[ionic magnet]

shes in danger tho

if formidable turned to be good

[shy hazel]

hooloo

go slap your face

too early to daydream

[ionic magnet]

she has clock on her back

what now ijn

[shy hazel]

remember

ugh who was it again

the other maid skin got clocktower on her back

usable but not broken

[sharp wing]

Formidable should be better gen cv, than vic

[ionic magnet]

stoppp

[sharp wing]

Idk why we get formidable in this event anyway

[zenith tundra]

i hope she is better then vicky. because it takes a lot to be worse then her

[sharp wing]

Vicky is best general cv for hms atm

[ionic magnet]

isnt it centaur

[sharp wing]

cent is cvl technically

[ionic magnet]

or do you not count cvl

i see

[sharp wing]

and she is more of specialist

[zenith tundra]

centaur is the most generalist cv/cvl in the game...

[ionic magnet]

i never bothered with vicky so

[sharp wing]

calling Cent generalist

[zenith tundra]

she does everything. aa, buffs, dmg, slow, asw too

[sharp wing]

non DB cv cannot be general use

[ionic magnet]

idk abt generalist/specialist but you cant go wrong with cent

[zenith tundra]

do u need db when ur barrage hits 70% of the screen?

[sharp wing]

Again, talking about general

Not about specialist can do general stuff better

the concept

U can mob w/ DDs

etc.

U can have CVL w/ CV stats

w/ top CV stats

U can have BC w/ BB stats

[jovial sedge]

Vicky is a proper cv

[shy hazel]

[jovial sedge]

Need more bps.... Where to bps

[coral wren]

Honestly, i never compared her mob and boss performance, but if there is no such thing as "she works better in x than y" then she is 100% a generalist, and it doesn't matter what tools is she using fighters, db or torps

[shy hazel]

you people

[ionic magnet]

kawaii helena

[shy hazel]

start applying for modship

[ionic magnet]

gonna steal

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[coral wren]

working for free

no, thank you

[jovial sedge]

Oh i saw nice helena today

Or wait was it st louis

[coral wren]

i'm grinding irl, i'm done grinding that game

[shy hazel]

who told u its free

they got honorarium

gems

[midnight heron]

~~u actually hav to pay to mod instead ~~

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

its only a few euros worth tho

[jovial sedge]

[shy hazel]

like what

do mod work

15euros a month

zulul

[coral wren]

just ban the whole server

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

say "nigger" in game news and leave

[shy hazel]

[jovial sedge]

Ooooooo

[shy hazel]

delete that hey

ill report u

[jovial sedge]

Rip queen

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

delete nao

[jovial sedge]

He is raporter tho would advice caution

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

ill tag cleve

[jovial sedge]

My battery is 52% what now

50 hmm it goes down

[coral wren]

Wait a second

How in the world kgv with 360mm has more fp than most of uss bbs who has 406 mm

[zenith tundra]

i would become a mod just to mod this channel

how does a ship that never existed like fdg have more fp then a ship that actually existed

[coral wren]

And someone here actually was trying to justify amagi's high fp, by telling how is she was going to have 16 inch guns

[zenith tundra]

al isn't historically accurate that is all

[coral wren]

Kgv was shittier than fucking nelson and yet, that tremendous fp

[jovial sedge]

Rip

Somth to break this cancer would be nice

[zenith tundra]

ws kai just wait for her

[coral wren]

Well, it isn't, but yet devs like to brag about how they are making it as historically accurate as possible

[zenith tundra]

as long as cv will suck in pvp it isn't

[coral wren]

You have hiryuu, cmon

[zenith tundra]

they nees to give hiryuu final counter to all cv then

imagine true cancer then

[coral wren]

ughh

[jovial sedge]

Wkai wont break cancer and till it comes itll be pr2 here

[coral wren]

well, combine taiho and hyriuu and call is hakuryuu

[zenith tundra]

ws kai gives an alternative to namaryuu and hma with ws kai can beat namaryuu

[coral wren]

Well, without ws kai hms is beating namaryuu just allright on en

[zenith tundra]

then what is the problem with cancer again?

[coral wren]

Ppl are just afraid of pr2 and hiruu retrofit i guess

[midnight heron]

dont be afraid just join them

[jovial sedge]

Ye that saying i hate that also hms on offence maybe

[coral wren]

But if i recall correctly, on cn hms with kai has less than 50% wr against cancer with fdg

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu retro is not that big of a deal. just a dmg increase

as for pr2 all pr ships aren't meta breaking while dr take eterenty to max

[jovial sedge]

I doubt that... There must be some with dev 30 already bringing azuma cancer to al

[zenith tundra]

its 508 bps u need for dev 30

and it has been like 6 months already

if anyone has max dr those are whales

[midnight heron]

dem max fdg flexers

[jovial sedge]

There are those everywhere

Less than 50% winrate with hms also with insane offence buff thats not cancer breaking at all

[coral wren]

Well, i jsut suppose they were using qe

and not kgv

[jovial sedge]

[zenith tundra]

what a rare sight

[midnight heron]

more like nanida

[shy hazel]

hooloo

u in my list

time to move

or be obliterated

@ionic magnet

[stark raft]

go test his hms namayuu

[midnight heron]

hoo r u talking to

[shy hazel]

i dont need to test something

i beat x10 alrdy

hms namaryuu

[jovial sedge]

Flexing with ijn cancer

[empty sinew]

ark and his limitless hate for ijn strikes once again

[jovial sedge]

Would never flex with anything thats broken beyond reason

matter of character

[coral wren]

what if italian pvp fleet

[sharp wing]

Just block him and don't bother

[coral wren]

We all dislike ijn here

even stella, deep inside

[sharp wing]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/516951413411020819/618944878793195540

I dare u

[coral wren]

I wonder who hates amagi the most, daxam stella or me

[jovial sedge]

This blocker

I guess no one hates ijn more than me so

[shy hazel]

m?

is there any convo going on

i dont really care about any faction

ill just use the most efficient one

taste doesnt matter

itsa stupid thing to do anyways

would you use a lighter or a matchstick to burn something

i have both but of course ill use the lighter

[midnight heron]

i use the caveman method

[shy hazel]

hey its not my problem if u dont want efficiency

just dont be stupid enuf to preach to me that caveman method is better

[jovial sedge]

Well it got logic but not exactly applicable ingame tho.... In al its not so felt since you still can use hundreds of characters .... But in other mmo where you got this one character you connect with spend shitton of time on it and its still shit cos asians cant balance the fck their game

[coral wren]

Yep, caveman method is the way. Only plebs are using anything different

[jovial sedge]

It's kinda not even surprising to me anymore but i won't change subjective opinion on this retardation even if it's common for them

[coral wren]

Just use what you enjoy using the most, that’s the point.

[cerulean estuary]

im just here to learn how to drive , i mean to read comments

[midnight heron]

cant exactly balance 300+ ships equally tho lul

[cerulean estuary]

i wish dorm have 300 shipgirls capacity

[shy hazel]

where is that loser hooloo anyways

i dont hve time to play al

im too busy in other gmes

i just need the points

[cerulean estuary]

just ping him , or pm in AL game

[shy hazel]

alrdy pinged we guildmates

[cerulean estuary]

oh can i join ur guild

[shy hazel]

almost all pvp sandbaggers here in avrora

[cerulean estuary]

mines got cobwebs already

[shy hazel]

are guildmates or something anyways

our guild is full

go join ugh

kiro maybe

guilds dont mean crap anyways

the day guildwar comes In al

is the day my guild or future guild will be on top 10

well if i still play

[cerulean estuary]

i will play even if its there PR100

[shy hazel]

dunno who that guy is hitting at

me or devs but whatever

im not attached to anything in this game anyways

im just going as far as I could

[cerulean estuary]

your just famous for bullying kiro though

[shy hazel]

as usual

why not

where is that memer anyways

@vague token

this man needs a guild

[cerulean estuary]

hey im ur friend stella , i just change my name

[shy hazel]

u change even the dcord name

how i know

u sound like mmm

mmm

the one with poro pic

forgot name

[stark raft]

theres no stella anymore

[shy hazel]

[cerulean estuary]

stella on history books

[stark raft]

the P in stellaP is pecorin

[shy hazel]

not like they

they save top ranks anyways

no one goes to history books in this game

only dumb ladies and gentleman who spends time on waifus

[cerulean estuary]

im out this season got a week vacation on a remote/non-wifi island

[shy hazel]

im probably gonna be out of t10

this season

i came back to gbf a little

[cerulean estuary]

top sandbaggers have apprentices now, so its hard to get t10

not to mention if u have bad luck on matchmaking

[shy hazel]

and puricon

then i also play beatsaber

too busy

[coral wren]

I heard there will be a new hms cv, what a shame daxam won't see it. In case it's even better than centaur

[shy hazel]

i mean daxam still plays

he should be seeing it

[cerulean estuary]

italian event this coming thursday?
need to pass my 2nd driving test b4 playing

[coral wren]

Uhh, not exactly. It should be on 18 iirc

[shy hazel]

dunno

[coral wren]

first we are getting this shitty mini event, with italian border

[shy hazel]

if someone wanna play gbf

[jovial sedge]

Sincw pvp is juat fancy nerd edick showing and additional bullins but if it was mandatory to game think there would be much more uproar

[coral wren]

well, theere is still no proper rewards in pvp shop. So if they are implementing guild wars i suppose it will be about grinding points in pve or smth like that

[shy hazel]

its simply because of the time when pvp was first implemented

50% of chinese players go to another game

now pvp is that black sheep theyll never bother touching

because its scary to lose more players

[coral wren]

But arknights are super popular, they are safe to do whatever the fuck they want with azur lane. Most wild social experiments

[shy hazel]

its the newest

and it made alot of things right

they learned from the mistakes of gf and al

no one to blame

a great exodus may happen to ak someday

if they make a mistake somewhere

[coral wren]

By right things you mean advertising and such? From gameplaywise i heard it's just a souless husk of a fgo, with the same bullshit daily resources, grind and a paywall

[shy hazel]

its the gameplay

u can skip alot of things

its basically the sidegame everyone wants

u can do everythinv in 15mins then fk off somewhere

kind of game

thats the thing hasnt done yet

autoskipping pve maps

[coral wren]

hm, how popular is it in jp? Or have they released it there? I was thinking it's that popular in cn because of tower defense genre

[shy hazel]

nein

unreleased

yostar is also handling it

fyi

so possibly

the inevitable global version maybe yostar too

showing how popular it is in cn

its a matter of time

[coral wren]

I hope hey will take al en team to localize it as well

[shy hazel]

mmm

im not planning to touch it so wtv

not like al translation is tht bad

its simply

inconsistent

[stark raft]

Arknights global is this winter

Im honestly waiting for Mahjong Soul mobile more

[shy hazel]

i guess alot of pvp veterans will go out of here soon

[coral wren]

Yeah, i think there were pics of some translators telling how they were doing a proper translation, but because of one dude who wants to adapt it comes out as a fucking mess. But they don't bother, because they aren't interested i n it, they are just getting paid to do their job

[shy hazel]

hooloo too hooked in ak

prolly will leave al

[stark raft]

AK is decent

why did they add guys and monsters though

[shy hazel]

i dont want to touch any china mobage rn after al

[coral wren]

I guess there is some % of fags and females who play it?

[shy hazel]

im back to my glorious jp games

[stark raft]

never touching fgo or kc ever again

[shy hazel]

gbf

[stark raft]

only gbf id touch is the fighting game

[shy hazel]

gbf was the only real competitor to fgo

tho fgo earns x3 than gbf

[stark raft]

fgo has a bigger brand

GBF lucky enough as it is that it can compete

[shy hazel]

fgo has something to stand on

at least

gbf from scratch

tho it kinda built from final fantasy

tbh

[stark raft]

square enix keeps shooting themselves in the foot

it's ok

[shy hazel]

square rich anyways

let em be

[coral wren]

gbf fighting game is quite bad in multiplayer, but nothing less is expected from arxis

long connecting, dead lobbies, lag spikes

[shy hazel]

i dont even wanna touch versus

maybe the rpg one

[coral wren]

not happening

[shy hazel]

made by platinumgames

[stark raft]

the netcode is trash?

[coral wren]

yeah

[stark raft]

oh well

[coral wren]

It's the same as in guilty gears

[stark raft]

blazblue netcode is decent

[coral wren]

butway worse

[shy hazel]

fighting games are just reskinned rehash anyways

[coral wren]

Well, that's how arxis are working today

same shit, just different skin

[stark raft]

yeah but god damn does their skins look good

[shy hazel]

so

[coral wren]

Can't argue with that

[shy hazel]

did u ppl apply to be mod now

make pvp matter

[stark raft]

hell no

[coral wren]

If i was an unemployed neet, yeah, why not

[shy hazel]

i guess people from general or gamehelp will get it again

[stark raft]

I've already made 2 templates for FAQ in pvp

thats enough for pvp

[shy hazel]

anyways

[coral wren]

I made a ticket which noone gives a fuck about but me and cyaneko

[shy hazel]

i go back to my game

[coral wren]

you fucking betrayed me

[shy hazel]

why did i go back here anyways

[coral wren]

to dab on hms?

[stark raft]

to kick some sandcastles around

[shy hazel]

i think someone was complaining about things again

well not like it or he matters anyways

oh i need hooloo to move

@ionic magnet

[coral wren]

do you refresh instantly when you see phoenix in lobby?

[stark raft]

he prolly sinks QE first

[coral wren]

Not gonna lie, doing your matches in last 5 mins is fucked

[shy hazel]

i just destroy everything i meet

everyones fleet is easy to beat anyways

including mine ofc

viva meta

[stark raft]

give it a few months

ppl will cry about wskai + hiryuu kai

[coral wren]

Eeh

[stark raft]

[coral wren]

I doubt that

[shy hazel]

it wont be a problem

when im also using both for offense

[shell heron]

Whatever do you mean. That rush to not miss a match during that 5 minutes is fun

[ionic magnet]

@shy hazel done lol

did you move already

got busy with other game

5 freaking nep bps

[shy hazel]

good

time to move

i was hoping

u sleep so u miss rounds

[ionic magnet]

i never lose to sleep

other games/watching vids tho

[shy hazel]

3 big sevens

whole backline with ykkz intact

[sharp wing]

There is also new waifu anime style arknights-like game

No husbandos and furry

[stark raft]

not even furries

fuckin lizard bois

don't want no politicians in my waifu games

[sharp wing]

[buoyant parrot]

damn HMS Formidable another SOFT LANDING MACHINE

[sharp wing]

Formidable might have defensive skill too

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

QT

[zenith tundra]

formidable reload will be bad like all heavy armor cv

[sharp wing]

Obviously

[zenith tundra]

i hope she gets a decent barrage at least

[sharp wing]

Basically all CV have bad reload, aside Dragons retro

[zenith tundra]

enty is not that far only 9 behind

[sharp wing]

Taihou actually has good reaload for heavy CV

enty is 130 something

hoe is 120

Lusty is close too

Vic was in the bottom tho

[zenith tundra]

tbh taihou without 100 affection feels slow as hell

[sharp wing]

But she is only like 10 behind Enty

"feels" is rather relative thing

and like 20 behind dragons kai

[zenith tundra]

this is what i tried using and 98 is slow af

[sharp wing]

120 taihoe 120, Enty 132

At 100 they have bigger differences

100 Enty 115 hoe 104

well, same almost

11 points

[elder crane]

Same amt diff matters more at lower amounts though

So makes sense

[zenith tundra]

148

[sharp wing]

after oath

at 100 aff 141

closest to dragonsKai is Enty at 132, rest CVs are lower

[elder crane]

And ofc centaur is centaur

[zenith tundra]

i really hope formidable is at least at lusty level

[sharp wing]

WEll obviously

Cent is fuccing best of 2 worlds

CVL reload, cv attacc

[elder crane]

CVL evasion too

[stark raft]

100% barrage with crash dmg too

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

bataan at 200 is so ridiculous

[sharp wing]

highest reload

[elder crane]

Too bad she's 6 planes though

[sharp wing]

but forced into hecccats

[zenith tundra]

which is amazing since is best not vf fighter

[sharp wing]

best for AA maybe

And Messers say Hi!

[zenith tundra]

exactly because of aa

[sharp wing]

For rest it's not best in anything

[zenith tundra]

and u need tons of that

[sharp wing]

Take messers if AA really concern

faster, best AA

[zenith tundra]

0 dmg no thanks

[sharp wing]

LOL, u say AA?

Then u say 0 damage

[zenith tundra]

why choose when i can get both

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

[elder crane]

For PvP the baiting of reppu is better anyways
And seafury is mostly just F6F with faster load time

[sharp wing]

And for pve, if u really need AA u jsut take Messers, for anything else u pick 500 bombs with fast reload

[zenith tundra]

i still prefer vf aa buff over reppu bait

[sharp wing]

Hecccat is just "master of none"

[zenith tundra]

wait for w13

where normal ships airstrike u to death from middle screen

[sharp wing]

and?

[zenith tundra]

never enough aa

really

[sharp wing]

yeah

so?

go on

[zenith tundra]

i said what i had to say

[sharp wing]

So take Messers

[zenith tundra]

pls do once u play w 13

[sharp wing]

Nice arguments ok

[zenith tundra]

i don't have to argue about known stuff like 0 dmg is bad

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i mean if you have no air superiority i imagine bombs dont matter in ch13

xD

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

just use the messer ;)

[trim horizon]

what's the pts of a sandbagger rn

[midnight heron]

pretty sure some guy got bugged reset on sandy

[trim horizon]

1032 6/10 atm

[midnight heron]

lul

[trim horizon]

[midnight heron]

rusher with 11 more points than everyone

[sharp wing]

1007 7/10

[trim horizon]

maybe I have bugged score too but im hiding it

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

Actually, that is one of those guys, who rushes not always

iirc

semi-rushers

U can see some of em even close or in top 10

Notlosing tickets already half win on here anyway

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

hey i lose tickets as much as anyone else around here

[sharp wing]

well, i'm already like 25 behind

[vague token]

[shell heron]

1004 8/10

I'm technically behind rushers, but those rushers are known casual sandbaggers

[sharp wing]

Did u miss any

Cause i missed 1 reset and 1007 7/10

[shell heron]

I'm also 8/10

[sharp wing]

still

[shell heron]

a couple bad resets when it was big bonus points

[sharp wing]

Well, I had probably best start this season

But wasted anyway

[shell heron]

my starts is either awful/average first 5

then great or first 3 days

but since I got a 153 start and mediocre bonuses after. as in 1 or 2 bonus matches per reset

that 153 doesnt mean much to sandbaggers

[sharp wing]

In Sandy 1 bonus per reset ir very normal after 1st 2 days

Till the very end

So starts basically deciding

[coral wren]

Does ykk use boiler + fe?

[lament lichen]

Yes

[coral wren]

👌

[sharp wing]

Gotta sue the golden boiler

[ripe latch]

[stark raft]

free food

[ripe latch]

+90

[past egret]

Can someone explain to me what a rusher is?

[trim horizon]

someone who doesn't wait for bonus points and just use all the attacks at once

[past egret]

Oh, so they are the people who do the thing your not suppose to do in pvp? (not wait)

[trim horizon]

yeah, but without rusher there wouldn't be bonus pts to get, so they are needed

[past egret]

I see

I was sent here from gameplay help, is having a purple fuel tank a must on carriers in pvp? Or does the additional aviation stats with double gold cata take priority

[ripe latch]

[trim horizon]

oil+cata is enough

[ripe latch]

double gold cata on pvp best

[trim horizon]

If you use more than one CV double cata is doable

[sharp wing]

For Solo CV setups Oil Tank is a must kinda

For double CV it's questionable

[past egret]

Right I wanted to go a full CV Backline for fun so I didn’t know if I needed purple tanks for all of them instead of just slapping gold cats on them all

[sharp wing]

U mean foxes + 1 solo cv?

Cause that depends if they all launch same time

For example, foxes launch in pair, there u don't need oil tank, but then 1 cv will launch alone, it can use Oil Tank

[coral wren]

Cranes

[sharp wing]

[past egret]

@sharp wing actually I was gonna go full American with Enty Essex and Sara kai

[sharp wing]

Well, if they launch relatively same time, can just go full cata and don't bother

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

But if u put Oil tank it won't hurt in any way

[past egret]

You think it’d be good into the frequently encountered Naga Amagi Hiryu Backline?

[sharp wing]

triple CV will get smacked too hard into the face usually

Esp the slower ones

[past egret]

Hmm, what about Enty Essex and a strong BB with good AA, like North Carolina

[sharp wing]

Foxes +1 more cv could pass

NC is meme

[trim horizon]

NC lacks barrage and overall damage

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

AA alone won't save

[sharp wing]

Her buff is not as good, as it may seem

[trim horizon]

probably Amagi

[past egret]

Damn, I got baited raising her skill then

[sharp wing]

Might as well just slap Amagi there

[past egret]

I’m trying my damndest to not use amagi

[sharp wing]

ohwell

[trim horizon]

[past egret]

Which complicates things

[sharp wing]

Best of luck

[past egret]

[trim horizon]

put PoW

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

she get's buffed by USS

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

If she at least got gun skill

Like KGV

[trim horizon]

maybe Littorio will fix your dilemma

who noes

[sharp wing]

ohnoes

[trim horizon]

best mid in game

w/ no AA

[sharp wing]

xD

Just slap wash or other barrageboat there w/ yr Essex/Enty

If u ban Amagi

[past egret]

I have a almost maxed wash so I’ll use her

[sharp wing]

What was latest siter?

[past egret]

Wanted to spice things up since I’ve always used wash Enty SD Backline

[sharp wing]

Alabama

[trim horizon]

that worked for like 1/2 weeks before ISSS

[sharp wing]

Better flag

[past egret]

What about Night of bottom sound skill, wouldn’t that go to waste

[jovial sedge]

Ah baguette pr see u man of culture

[sharp wing]

It will

That's why i say Alabama better FS

AP barrage and solo skills

[past egret]

So Alabama over Massa and SD

[jovial sedge]

Use wasde

[sharp wing]

Massa has no barrage

SD is well...

[past egret]

I can probably just transfer over my gear from SD straight to Alabama right

[sharp wing]

Yeah

And Alabama is top for PVE

[jovial sedge]

wasnt it ranked as t1.5

[past egret]

ty for the assistance

Also one last unrelated question

How good is 🥖 PR in pvp? I saw on some random tier chart she was high up

[sharp wing]

Lmao

[trim horizon]

Sanrui or PR2 ?

[sharp wing]

i'd like to see that

Oh Sanrui?

[jovial sedge]

As far as i know its used woth ijn cancer

[sharp wing]

I mean yr pic one

[jovial sedge]

Its sad

[sharp wing]

Sanrui is just Aurora counter

Nothing special otherwise

[trim horizon]

Sanrui is not that any better than normal SSR tank a bit tankier

If it's the PR2 one

[sharp wing]

It was letdown for many

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Well, PR2 has 2 ships

[jovial sedge]

Pieces in rest

[sharp wing]

that matter

But that is too far fetched goal

[past egret]

So Gascogne pvp no go?

[sharp wing]

Only pvp PR2 is Azuma (musthave) and FdG

[past egret]

Yea was gonna get FDG she seemed broken

[jovial sedge]

Future seems grim

[sharp wing]

less than Azuma

[trim horizon]

Azoom is more brok

[past egret]

@jovial sedge the IJN meta continues to clamp down upon all

[sharp wing]

Azuma is what u dread

And what u adore

[jovial sedge]

Its like divine punishment from god to all sinners and disbelievets as everyday we stray further from da wae

[trim horizon]

PR2 is when VG becomes pretty much locked to one comp

[sharp wing]

Well, Ibuki exists

The Kraken

[jovial sedge]

Pure retardation incarnate

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

There too many blocked lines in chat

[trim horizon]

the real thing about PR2

are seattles gun

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[jovial sedge]

[past egret]

I see people running full German fleets with the exception of a amagi or a juneau and beating Azuma amagi fleets, same with Georgia full US fleets

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

KMS you say

[past egret]

What makes Azuma so godly?

[jovial sedge]

With how many resets also if its proper cancer

[sharp wing]

Her sole existence is godly

[trim horizon]

she's a main fleet in VG position and w/ 7.5k hp it's hard to say no

[sharp wing]

She is basically capital ship in vg

w/ Azuma u get 4:2 fleet basically

[trim horizon]

her gun can reach backline which is a nice poke

[sharp wing]

Her gun has 360 angle

like BC

[trim horizon]

so yeah, she exist

[jovial sedge]

Like this is not a proper cancer

[sharp wing]

She is there, to make u dread and suffer

[trim horizon]

people hoping in Alaska class but high doubt

[past egret]

@jovial sedge still cancer

Just not as much

[sharp wing]

There stages of cancer

[trim horizon]

also Ark he's like a broken record

so don't mind him much

[jovial sedge]

That just reaction to your u see muricans beating cancer so wondered if u saw em doing a proper cancer

[past egret]

He’s lost his mind to endless refreshes of the same IJN comp

[sharp wing]

[past egret]

I can’t blame him for being one ysu

[sharp wing]

Well, I lvled my Wasd to 120 in pvp in cancer environment

[vague token]

have i told you about the cool power of amagi/essex/sara

with double avi vanguard buffs

[trim horizon]

[gloomy geode]

man i wish i had amagi

[trim horizon]

he doesn't want Amagi

[past egret]

Amagi

[jovial sedge]

Fck amagi

[vague token]

just use sodak then

[past egret]

I refuse to fall to amagi meta

[vague token]

xD

[trim horizon]

If you want meme contact Kiro

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

800+ flood ticks

[jovial sedge]

[vague token]

on level 107 essex

[past egret]

My current pepega pvp fleet

[trim horizon]

Stella "left" anyway, he can't complain about other memers

[sharp wing]

[past egret]

The one I wanted to try was Essex Enty Sara but since triple cv don’t work I’ll have to replace one for like, Alabama

[vague token]

personally id advise sodak

because durability boost

[trim horizon]

go for Bisko

[vague token]

on the 2nd barrage

[sharp wing]

barrage better

[jovial sedge]

[vague token]

not really, carriers already splash the entire front/vanguard

[past egret]

i whaled thinking rings would help turn the tides against IJN meta boy do I feel like a clown

[sharp wing]

u have offense buff already, def boost less effect

[vague token]

essex needs durability

especially since pvp mods dont work on flood ticks

[trim horizon]

rings don't help that much

[vague token]

there's no need to go more damage

all you need is to wait

[sharp wing]

rings don't win pvp

[vague token]

ring will win pvp when we see fdg

[gloomy geode]

very small diff

[jovial sedge]

Really sad ijn cancwr can even beat the power of love

[past egret]

I wanna try a KMS fleet eventually, Bisko, Graf, and FDG, with Roon, Leipzig retro, and idk who else I’d use

I’d assume graf is good cause her reducing damage skills?

[vague token]

6% more hp of 10k is like

a lot

[trim horizon]

yeah, probably ships w/ huge stats like Azoom or FdG

[jovial sedge]

Uhm no kms dont work

[vague token]

graf is bad

[sharp wing]

well, boviously

Graf only good pve

[vague token]

heccdiver is so good that it's better to use heccdiver than stuka

[gloomy geode]

^

[vague token]

even with the skill

xD

[trim horizon]

you can easily don't book her red

[sharp wing]

If graf gave eva

would be other question

[vague token]

because pvp ruleset for planes

[past egret]

grabs clown wig

[trim horizon]

need good germans plane

[vague token]

if there was a stuka with a 2k bomb

[sharp wing]

need 2 good german planes

[vague token]

she'd be good

[sharp wing]

Which we will never get

xD

[vague token]

i mean

lusty got hit by a 2k bomb from a stuka

where she ate a billion bombs and limped away

because armored carrier was actually a good design

[sharp wing]

Formidable got kamikaze crashed into it

[trim horizon]

thing is amagi/ykkz/jun are irreplaceable, if you don't have at least one of them your winrate pretty much drops drastically

[vague token]

"takes less damage from plane suicide damage"

kek

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

honestly not a bad defense skill

[sharp wing]

YEah, never happens

[vague token]

if she had that

[trim horizon]

but yea, for KMS to work they need more ships w/ decent skill

[vague token]

taihou's armored carrier doesnt reduce suicide damage right?

kms needs to have AUX +2

[sharp wing]

nothing does

[trim horizon]

but KMS irl was a bit

[sharp wing]

Subs

[trim horizon]

hitler-chan what do we need

more sub

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

all the bbs/bcs have only +1

because apparently main fleet torpedos are good

[sharp wing]

Sharks dun even get that

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

poor sharks

non homing torps and no aux

[vague token]

the ONLY good thing about tirpitz is her damage buff works on her torpedos

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

unlike the others

[sharp wing]

Tirp got homing

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

and aux

[vague token]

i still dont think it's worth aux+1

[sharp wing]

it is

[past egret]

Pepega?

[vague token]

kaga bb gets torpedo skill

and gets aux +2

and a barrage

[sharp wing]

that's diff

[vague token]

_>

[trim horizon]

tirp not FS= wasted

I mean

[sharp wing]

her torps are skill

[trim horizon]

FdG and Amagi could probably win against some Nakagas

[past egret]

The dude fought this fleet

[vague token]

uh, they're both a skill

[past egret]

https://youtu.be/fZIXPezQOfk

[vague token]

tirpitz has torpedo skill that costs aux

kaga bb doesnt

xD

[trim horizon]

no Jun

[sharp wing]

I mean FdG vs non Azuma fleet

no jun

[past egret]

Would that fleet I posted be able to survive Azuma fleet

[sharp wing]

It's jk

[trim horizon]

I mean it can win

[vague token]

no juneau on the faction with the most hit points

lel

[trim horizon]

but only for FdG and Amagi

[past egret]

So June is a must or a pepega?

[trim horizon]

im raising my KMS anyway jsut to watch for myself

yeah

[sharp wing]

Just is a free 10-20% winrate

[trim horizon]

as said Ykkz+Jun is locked for best VG

[sharp wing]

Then Azuma joins them

Well, Kraken is formidable too

[trim horizon]

but yeah, that KMS can work

[sharp wing]

I mean, FdG alone can stall u few mins xd

[trim horizon]

not against real comp fleet

but I bet EN player will remain w/ Nakaga

cuz they too lazy

[past egret]

so basically FDG is the saving grace lmao

[sharp wing]

See those Amakagas?

[trim horizon]

don't forget about Amagi

[past egret]

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Magi buff + fdg

gawd

that's endless

• offense buff

[past egret]

Well

[sharp wing]

That puts FdG over 20k eHp

[past egret]

Guess I have no choice

[sharp wing]

[past egret]

Amagi is a must it would seem

[trim horizon]

thing about Amagi she's a free FE+bulge and eva rate

[sharp wing]

[past egret]

This is it

[sharp wing]

eva rate just broken buff

[vague token]

fdg should hit 23k raw hp before evasion

[past egret]

The fall to the dark side

[stark raft]

Amagi?

These fools

[past egret]

what knowledge do you have

[trim horizon]

HMS user

[past egret]

Release it to the public

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

FdG without eva stat has over 12k eHp just from buff + HP pool

[trim horizon]

http://prntscr.com/p2u15e

[stark raft]

The fastest offence in the west

[vague token]

then pvp multiplier and you get the ultimate thiccness

[trim horizon]

[stark raft]

is HMS

[trim horizon]

yeah

[stark raft]

[trim horizon]

If you want fast match go HMS

[sharp wing]

KawaiiKai

[trim horizon]