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taihoe
also for solo CV use oil tank
shells are more of meme
aurora tank is like instant -1

I see
better Jun tank r something
Replace your rudder on yuki to fire ext as she will burn down easily
Nagato white shell to SG cause you want the eva/hit
Amagi 2 SG or 1 SG 1 Rudder for more survivability
Taihoe can do beaver + oil tank or if you really trust her I'd say 2 cata is fine
Ok
never put eva gears on DDs
rudder on yuki 
Also... 0 boilers
yukie is boiler+fire etx, buki 1 torp + boiler if mid
tank bulge + box/boiler
I mean if he alls in with Dev 30 ibuki does the boilers really matter 
Ibuki is dev 30
There is a tierlist in the pins as well for more explanation etc
now only mutsuki skin left 

||and rem and ram's of course||

now we must hav skk skin
gimme
pay up 7k gold in lootboxes 
no u
7k for 90% chance of trash
Well theres rainbow shell and flying pig planes that look hilarious
but nothing can beat the fakkyu skins
Got only 1 fakkyu shel and it was from sp3
put ur hands up
use defibrillator 
tfw u cant pun defibrillator

my sara still 99
Begone non-legal legal loli
lul
This guy is madman 
its normal tho
9 min warning
Just used mine
cant rush if ppl dont move 
I hate to do it, but I might rush next reset. going on a 4-5 hour drive


play on avrora, you'll never be in this situation unless you sandbagged

oh ive actually hear cent first time now she sounds familiar
Oof again i went wrong channel

nope u havent now embrace the bestiality
I hate pushing this early, but enjoy the +1 off me I guess 
i used all want to go sleep
Lmao, just had this eva stacked prinz almost last enemy alive 
Nothing going on atm.
Except my 3rd staag is done. My zoo is now almost fully maxed. Other than hiryuu enterprise not having 200 affinity

My Namagi lacks 1 Bofors, but got 2 nepguns and rudders 
Also Nepguns not really do anything on def fleet
I needed a 2nd rudder and 3rd staag for sanrui to be complete.
My PRs barely dev 20 anyway
But my namagi had staags and nepguns for a while so they were fine
Just so them blue and gold projects.
4 b2b gold projects these last 2 days. One of which was a 30m one.
Rip gold 
dont forget the water soaked food you find out there
And blue and white boxes of trash 


🚮 noat oathed
heh
Pearl Juneau 
0.0000001 proc chance
nah, make it possible if fleet contains 3 more uss ships
make it 6 and we have a deal
or req the need to use yat sen + housou in fleet for her skill to work?
wonder if any legit fleet with housou + yat sen can even win vs true cancer 
few or LOT?
3-5
you are basically 4 v 6
same like my lvling fleet
tbh it's more like 3 v 7 due to how fucking slow yat sen is
unless you put her as tank
lel
houshou with firepower stat when
cause zeppy no OG ship
xD

you know i wonder if they even have the tech to adjust ships post launch
cause it feels like they dont
well
don't or don't want to?
It's nothing hard
those 2 have different meaning
no they never made ships to be able to be updated
they dont check if they're correct or anything i imagine
just cus they don't update a ship does not mean they can't have the tech to do it
ships are just code
Nothing prevents you to update ships
i mean, if the ships have no way to check their own database entry
if they have the source code they can change it how they want
well they did try to fix amagi 3 times
U just need to edit each star grade of ship
and she is still a fucking mess in pvp

so 
cause each star grade is different entry

hmm so what will hms black prince have
purple version of sirius
so a bit lower on base stats
but what else

huh, IRL sirius didnt even do any carrier escort work
oh was she skilled based on her WoWS implementation? xD
inb4 they make her another shit double aa boat like curacoa/curlew
But she has D torp stat 
i mean so does sirius right?
she'll probably have covering fire for 20% fp
dd gun
but the primary skill is hmm
i mean 181.2 is pretty decent for a dd gun user
it isnt sandy kai but it works
oh wait it is sandy kai
sandy kai hits 182 after retro
that's SR
oh i meant sirius
thise one is elite with same statline, but shit skills
Siri only reaches potential 180 fp w/ 3 CV fleet
with all maxed buffs
151 is with no cv no covering fire
she is default 181
because of 20% boost
free
she'll go higher with cvs
191 with 1 cv, 202 with 2, 212 with 3
the main problem is no MGM+1
that would make it 
only dd gun mg+1 are DDs
SOON(tm)
but yeah i imagine theoretical sirius retro would put her with a MGM+1
and then she'd be dps gunner goddess
Akizuki class DDs mg+1
but that wont ever happen
those dds have like 70 fp
xD
so probably also around 160 torp stat
on black prince
maybe like 155
statline is same
not exactly the same
if you look at other shared classes
golds are like 3% or w/e higher
well "same"
yeah, so it'd be like 155 to sirius 161
ofc rarity bonus
the spread is similar
xD
although it is hms so she could have a good skill still
cough aurora
isnt she going to be limited in the light build?
no
she gets rate up
Does any of these help pvp? I was told some plane?
818 if you use 2 CV+ if not useless
Is that ever meta? Should I get it for future proof?
So super heavy thing is ignored ?
I thought the type 1 completely overshadowed it
I thought people said it was useless =.=
For the slow plane the 818 even in 3 cv, only need 1?
Maybe I can get the heavy thing next month
Use both shells on KGV for mad crits 
there might be some use for 818 in pve for ships with bad torp planes but have some other utility
like the wheel of death stage
but those are stage reliant
and not general use
bulge/boiler for non-front sirius and aurora right? just want to make sure before I +10 some fucking boilers 
boiler + toolbox/bulge yea
i personally prefer toolbox over bulge on non front VGs but bulge is also perfectly fine
and front position belfast gets pearl + bulge?
Whoever has more plane suicide damage, probably
That is, Barra > 818 >> Ryuusei
And other 500lb fighters > VF-17
Usually that means Akagi first
oh ok 
Beacon priority is the 818 user, probably Akagi
Though idk if foxes are even supposed to use beacon
Nah I mean, idk if having beacons helps foxes that much
For normal CVs it's cause by 2nd/3rd strike, beacon-CV(especially if naturally already a bit faster) lands airstrike before nonbeacon-CV launches (and in general ofc the strike hits first), so you need beacon to make sure that doesn't happen
But since fox mirrors are rare anyways, not sure if beacon is needed
For a somewhat extreme case, take Centaur vs Enty
Beacon Centaur lands first strike before nonbeacon Enty can cloak herself, I think, or at least for sure it happens by 2nd strike
Nonbeacon Centaur doesn't get ahead of beacon enty in a timeframe that matters, when normally Cent by 2/3 strikes hits strike before Enty launches/cloaks
So if one person has beacon while the other doesn't, with normal CVs, the beacon user is at a large advantage usually
ah I see
not having amagi is the only thing holding me back from top 10 placement
just bring her back please god almighty
Nah, you can easily get top 10 even top 1. Without a meta fleet.
I know but rn Im running ykkz ayanami belfap nagato enty and hood all 200 affinity and im stuck at 12
Ranking doesnt need meta just sandbagging
If i could replace hood it would be so much easier cause it would be a synergy fleet
amagi would make your fights easier yea but she wont help in ranking if you dont sandbag properly
Use pearl Juneau 
You don’t need sandbagging to top 10 just never lose then rush on a reset
Classic HMS 
wait a second
isn't eldridge actually like, really good?
you know, just to turtle for years
Need amagi to top 10 
if you keep thinking that you wont reach it 

Im ashamed of myself 2nd highest lvl ship
Wow, some ppl really think they can top something without Sandbag

Just seen 120 Jaburin 
That umugi just keeps chugging cola and getting lots of exp
Btw are you ready bois 3 min to rush
so to elaborate, sandbagging is saving up all your exercises
and then burning them when it's capped?
Nope
what exactly is this practice... 
But thats kinda impossible cos u dont see how much p your opponent got
unfortunately since I started this game about 22 days ago, I'm more concerned with actually winning
and getting very angry whenever I hear owari da
I got rear admiral for a day
if u are that early pvp isnt your concern

SANDBAG TEMPLATE
Lets say you are at Rank 1000 at 500 pts
You look for people on your list 35+ points higher
But you dont know the exact pts so you will need to base off ranks until gensui rush
So after you get your bonus points from a rusher
You refresh list by relogging/restarting game and see if others in your lobby rushed
And claim bonus points again from them
After a few seasons you'll notice other sandbaggers and use your lobby reset if they are in the leftmost spot
Because they are also waiting for rushers and it's unlikely to get bonus pts from them
cos u cant win against anything meta
I was a level 61 rear admiral for a day omegalul
rather the foremost concern atm is the fact that people have level 120 boats while my highest level boat is 108
There we go I've explained sandbagging as clearly as i can 
because level advantage applies in pvp 
I'lleventually start sandbagging people
once I have a pvp comp going
waiting on event for nagato and amagi 
Shame thought ur a man of culture jabburin all day
namaryuu cancer
Well at low level you should use pvp as free exp/merit and just hit whatever
who even invented that shit
You can try fighting the meta fleets since you have infinite resets anyway
You can stop pvp at anytime and reset the match 
I thought you meant refresh opponents
I mean
I got rear admiral at level 61

seems more like rng and hoping your enemies put meme defense fleets
but rear admiral is nothing 
free merit
i'd imagine everyone in top 100 is tryhard
I see everyone in the leaderboard using namaryuu
stop losing 
Hardcore zoologist with rng... the cult of zootopia is rising
Hey now 2570 in wash is big 

Our top 1 cant even get 2600+ most of the time 
in washington, point disparity is only like 28 pts between 1 and 50
honestly why do people care enough to sandbag... the pvp in this game is pretty broken 

well
and it's not like
The pt disparity right now doesnt matter
hookers and blow will come to you for sandbagging
we were talking about end of season

ahh
fuck
out of refreshes
reeeeeeeeeeeee
I've gotten pretty unlucky with rolls today 
time to suicide level 1 boats into high levels for exp 
40min after reset and the my leftie didnt move a rank.. he who shallnt move a rank willl know the rage of mighty jungle
Thats the first amendment of zoo
sandbagging is such a dumb inaccurate term. we should just call it camping instead.
its tradition phx 
i only followed our seniors
dunno if it was zack who coined the term
me and daxam
cn people?

wow that name
nah, JP had Hiryuu Kai variant. EN didn't have Hiryuu Kai and everyone on EN was saying it wouldn't be viable unless Kai. Then everyone shut up after me and daxam tested and put em up on our defense fleet as we were the only few who actually bothered to level Hiryuu up despite her not having retro.
KGV Monarch Cent = Kimochi rise up 
i dont even remember daxam testing hiryuu
i remember it was u and zack

that was the time daxam was inactive here
daxam test a bunch of stuff in 100 and 110 era.
zack probably had a leveled hiryuu too yeah
i was only using hiryuu at 110 for pocket amagi/fox counter
i had respecc for daxam until he went batshit crazy about hms

now i only remember him as that qe loving memer

I think kiro actually leveled hiryuu the earliest lmao
when she was just a meme
now amagi and nagato come and she full cancer
china tactics ftw
Dork could yeet vg back then 

well shelling a backliner was ok too
isnt that worse than amagi enty hiryuu
namaryuu

hyuuga
ya thy
I used Dork Amagi Hood back then

hood was already falling off at 110 except on fox match up imo
Hood backed up by eva rate had shittons of ehp 
now we have namamonarch?
namaent was developed somewhere else

lmao
and so is mine

hmm time to run monarch and see whether she can yeet hiryuu
aim for fate 5 roon. shits op

my mona dev 30 fate 1
wait which gun do I run on monarch
my nepnod dev 29
does monarch use triple 381?
all others dev 25
Hood gun or mona gun
someone was testing that
run 380 ap jk
1 nepgun on KGV helps a lot
3 on Warkai KGV Mona will eat VG 
2nd amendment of zoo . He who shant use the mighty zoo, dont pray everyday to allmighty amagi will be outcasted and as heretic all his posessions taken and family enslaved
hmm do I put monarch or amagi to snipe hiryuu
pvp has enuf weirdos like kiro alrdy

copy hooloo
he renme his monarch as hiryuu killer before

hiryuu killer that cant kill hiryuu consistently
monarch fate 4 here, so it's not 0 luck 

oh, super rare cat box
Fate 5 mona fate 4 nep
so will you test it
wonder what will show up

i'm pretty sure it's bad

gambling is never good

you have ibuki dev 30?
same



namamo with jun ibuki yuki
@ionic magnet
should have tons of dmg to win VG + backline fight
torps miss everything because no aurora inc
where is uss flagship that will kill 2 random backline ships
neptune
Yea
Dat my oathed ibuki and dev 30
Then who will hold the pearl
I see
Nanoda is using fire ext and boiler
Heretics
forcing ppl to pvp 

Too hard
get top 10 in pvp
with minimum 2550 points

the most asshole requirement they can do





i wont put anything i cant test 
i cant tag ether

@buoyant parrot
explain that namamo
or i tag u a memer

imagine being same class as kiro

lmao
on def no fucking way, unless you face shit comps
Hmm
🤔
Been thinking but guess cent swimsuit skin is excess cos she already shows evrywthing in default
lmao
I can buy one more skin but saggi wont tell me which is 2nd best cant decide
Where is the guy anyway or dont tell me 
you hate too many ships in this game i wont even bother suggesting 
I bought tighoe skin

She is special also no furry and hates zoo
too bad monarch qipao is out of shop
Well i dont got monarch :/and till i get her would shes till be viable like somth kgv.monarch warpy
Or just assume that rainbow kms kgv and.warpy
Thought about sodako but she weak now with zoo and all
youre going with hms yea?
Working on it
qe/aurora then i guess
Hmm ye qe skin is nice but liked that monarch too so btw your thoughts on that what i wrote in future like will have monarch still place
there's so many combinations for hms tbh and all are viable to some extent
he has no choice tbh, wasd is almsot non existent
you can use anything you want as long as you have warspite kai
no he said he's making an hms
Like, if you don't wanna run ijn ships hms is the only choice that has left
i'd imagine warkai/kgv/cent will be best but not sure cos its that close
were ppl running tripple 406 on ws kai ?
Poor sodako and.wash ppl making fun of em now
?
Well they are non existent thats if they never existed but once proud feared enemy
i guess he means any animalistic feature
it's either furshit, onis or retarded destroyers who behave like kindergarten kids despite being over 70 years old
Well, she is named as a phoenix, but i think her, shoukaku and zuikaku are only exceptions
But maybe that would jsut look ridiculous if they drew feathers coming from their butts or smth like that
Yes that would be but ive mainted it some time ago they could be inspired by pillars of eternity and.tier godlike race....having crimson fire red feathers in.hair could be done very epicly
Ye but that is not tail
🤔


I are confucius
Oof
shoukaku has feather styled sleeves
yeah, it's their sleeves
and you can barely see it on zui on tablet
also Taihou has her fan behind which is basically a phoenix's tail along w/ her mask

so yeah, you married a furry
ahh I finally get to understand the tag. Ahh yeah I'm still testing it coz you know 2 PR with complete Dev is kinda time consuming but if you want to know the current progress I have right now, I never lost to any team as offense. this has been going on now for 3-4 weeks as far as I can remember. However there was this instance I had to refresh because all of a sudden the RNG for the enemies Owarida became too godlike. It felt like I was battling the goddess of luck back then. but that was a very rare occasion. Since then everytime I do my 10/10 exercise I rarely press the refresh button. probably out of a week maybe just once.
well, in his defense i can say it's not an actual tale but something similar to shiranui's or ayaya's ears 
this is also a phoenix https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/c/c1/Phoenix.png
my Monarch Amagi and Nagato

vg is ibuki?
along with the San Rui and Nanoda and Jesus
jun lead?
that's the lead
beats me all I care about is my Jesus not to die prematurely which definitely 100% works as far as my 4 weeks of testing
Why would defile.monarch with zoo

now my only concern is how will that team of mine fair against defense. So far there was this one instance in #al-general who mentioned me and hating my team for it. But that since then no report. I even said here if someone saw my team please perform test and report to me how it goes if ever you have the time :)
Now i beg your pardon sir
no I'm not im actually rushing all the time :)
@stark raft have you ever met me in pvp?
oh no wonder havent seen you 
kinda busy with other games currently xD
and I went casual for AL after missing 1 limited ship
Alabama

another fallen shikikan
Nope @coral wren
yup, I wasn't able to whale hard coz... whaling at 3 games with the wrong time event gap will make you eat worms.
Only 2 ppl from wash have pinged my def fleet 
alabam so usles ship so i get 8 her copies

during Alabama event it was Honkai Impact's Bronya new battle suit release. At the same time it was a launch of a new game I was focus into Astral Chronicles so yeah shit happens 
Uh why cos of albm she is cool but weak :/
stop rushing 
Ahhh I'm kinda hook into it. Currently our guild is in the top 19
or its whale land
well its kinda Azur Lane
you can whale or not if you whale you just progress faster if you don't you're like Azur Lane plebians
that's how I see it so far
scroll up 
anyway back to Azur Lane PvP, I'd probably go try hard again if there's new thing about PvP but as off now I might just rush all the time until new content
Azuma?
not even a new PvP meta is out and that makes me bored about exercise
I get that feeling
I wish they spice things up about exercise or release a game breaking ship again somewhere broken like Amagi aside from the up coming PR2 broken shenanigans
wait, alex, have you not maxed your cancer yet?
No, i jsut remember his namagyuu was way too underleleveled for me to test some hms setups
oohhh
Current zoo
I thought Namaryuu meta has died down. I barely even see it as a challenge for my team >_> we need something more cancerous like an ebola ship
You are right also, they have to release a new broken ship like amagi, but this time make it's brokiness be exclusive to some faction other than ijn
TRUE
I hate having to see all the time that the cancer ships are always IJN
well except for the KMS pr2 bullcrap
But the thing is, they are either scared or really backing up on powercreep after pr2
My.people 
pizza w/ broken ships
ok, then it's ussr
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Italian ship 
overhaul of exercise that could make me go back whaling this game
nothing comes close to brokeness of sovetskiy souyuz. Ivans who were making it were either drunk or on krokodile
I beleive my fleetpower ranking even dropped down to Rank 6 now

But sadly all this is whishful thinking cos dev. are ijn fanbois and that azuma broke the game so anything comparable be more bolsting barage bbs and same large cruiser rainbow bs
pleb
would probably get it back to Rank 4 or maybe 3 when something new happens to the game which will get me excited 

but as of now I'm a plebian as #al-general scums.

par for the course
That nick that sandy 
Guys u alive?

just buy all 
But that would mean i support devs
But i dont and.wont till they do somth about that zoo ...
Ur mean
well its extremely unlikely theyll do anything about zoo so
I know cos azuma broke it its obvious all is fcked
u can embrace it or hate it foreva
yes yes, keep whining here
they'll surely change

you are just like a bot programmed to say obvious thing
Also been thinking they all say that its age of carriers and all but it aint.truth
probably
they just don't write and flood the chat like you do
Every change starts with 1 push

because they are reading in PvP channel
its more like ppl got better things to do with their life
most ppl treat al as casual game
because it is
AL is side game wdym
they not gonna hardcore rally for some small change dats not gonna impact them much in the long run
Oh no 200iq moves again

also PvP is a cockfight, you just watch it, you don't even play it
not arguing anyway jst giving u perspective
Tho the game got pvp
🤦
you're taking it too seriously and it's kinda annoying
All and all changing opinions now the opinion is "it's a pve game" just to remind other was its a gatcha... yet i got zeor valid answers for pointless boosting of ijn or azuma at all... oh wait most u said "u dont use azuma pve"
might as well write mail to dev about pvp if u wanna push
It's Waifu Collector

PVP is just a glorified waifu war
So now its not pve game its waifu collector ah


lmao
lol

this guy is dumb i give up
essentially this game is waifu collector
like other gacha u play

if u care about deep gameplay PC game should be the one u are looking for

I mean, the guy doesn't even have the idea what kind of games are gacha and especially this kind of waifu collector games

the infinite ijn zoo complain cycle
zoo is broken
"offers alternative solutions"
but zoo is op and broken
tries to help with other alternatives
but zoo is too strong, promoted, broken, and gey
silence for a few minutes
cycle repeats til AL server closes
xD




WHAT
inb4 he's the one who coded and fucked up Amagi
Before rekt by cancer
Nah im just kinda slightly smiling.from.all this the reason what i wrote u cant answer cos its obvious yet ofc best way is to come up with twisted offensive answer 

put Nagato top and Hiryuu mid for faster games
stop

I've already seen 2 off center nagato
Nagto top is meta

speaking of pc game, crosswave gonna hav pc port prob 


then u dont hav to complain about zoo there

Too early to tell
imagine playing crosswave
i'll buy it if it's on steam
paly it for 1 hour, get bored, unistall
What if zoo hunt will continue

Hum uve played it already? Or thats what ull do
you mean exercise

they should've made crosswave something like dynasty warriors style

its not out yet
instead they made it so simple
yea was hoping more for combat
they are rushing everything
Dunno whole AL coule be done in 3d
anime and game already going out
anime made by nobody studio
There was that akagi face

Once seen cannot be unseen


I kinda hope they will remake it
Cos of thats how itll look itll be sad even for zoo
he's the cameraman
sad
He wasnt in any pv so guess not






