pvp

[ionic magnet]

yep

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

properly?

like 100% winrate?

[merry edge]

well hms is beefier..right?

[sharp wing]

nah

[steep fog]

without a lot of reset

not 100%

[ionic magnet]

hiryuu is just a little better cos shes sure to annoy you

[steep fog]

nothing beat cencer 100%

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

others are rng like enty/mona

kaga bb too

[steep fog]

even cancer itself

[sharp wing]

Taihoe

[merry edge]

if HMS has decent matchup vs canser Ill use it because I have HMS

[sharp wing]

U need kgv and mona

[merry edge]

guess who my 3rd waifu is

[ionic magnet]

cent too

[merry edge]

[sharp wing]

well, can work without cent

those are harder to have

anyway

[ionic magnet]

will be a little worse but yea can work

[merry edge]

junjun wants enough bulk to live 1 rotation but be low enough to die right?

[sharp wing]

having dev 30 mona

[merry edge]

which is why you dont oath her for meta

ofc Id have a d30 narch

[sharp wing]

well, u oath her

[merry edge]

why kgv over dork btw? 10% damage?

[vague token]

kgv is tanky

[ionic magnet]

oathed jun is just fine

[vague token]

and better barrage

[sharp wing]

and barrage*

[ionic magnet]

wheres kgv template

👀

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[steep fog]

[ionic magnet]

KGV TEMPLATE
Her stats are amazing for PVP with a fast firing shot that usually hits/has more chance to hit VG that makes her fire dmg insane. Her barrage also hits decently in mid hitting the entire backline

She has torpedo armor mods on her barrage, which means despite the lowish base damage, it really tears into heavy armor ships and still hits hard on medium armor

1:2:1 pattern iirc for KGV barrage as flagship
2 shots landed on each side, 4 on middle
This usually hits Nagato for 1k+ each shell

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

there found it

[merry edge]

belgun>nepgun on your BB/Cs too r?

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

no

Nepgun for aux, belgun for vg

[merry edge]

ah aight

[sharp wing]

nepgun vg if +AP skill

For pve it's nepgun/tbsk for vg

[steep fog]

nep gun vg if nep

[ionic magnet]

200iq

[steep fog]

who runs edin in pvp

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

hey, edin was good

back in the days

best tank

[steep fog]

back in the days

[sharp wing]

[merry edge]

all but one poverty HMS vanguard setup uses ykkz

[ionic magnet]

i bought her skin and now i regret it

[merry edge]

[ionic magnet]

[steep fog]

suck it up

[sharp wing]

Never regret anything about waifus

[steep fog]

ykkz is meta

[sharp wing]

Yukikazr-sama Nanoda!!!!

[merry edge]

Ill just use fucking yeptune

[ionic magnet]

hmm you could use jun/aurora/nep

nep is a cockroach too

[sharp wing]

not helping foxes much tho

[merry edge]

it also says you can swap out nep for belf

[sharp wing]

better siri

[ionic magnet]

wait what are we talking abt again lol

[merry edge]

HMS

[sharp wing]

about his foxes fleet

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

oh nvm

[merry edge]

well I switched it to HMS

[cerulean estuary]

i oathed and 200 aff edinburg when HMS meta was there

[sharp wing]

ok

[merry edge]

cuz I wanna make more stuff

[sharp wing]

then ye forget siri

[ionic magnet]

yea bel is fine too

[merry edge]

nakaga is lower than a fucking QE comp

nani

[steep fog]

hms vg?

[sharp wing]

cause

[ionic magnet]

QE bias

[sharp wing]

fast resets

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

blame 120

that makes cv bad

[merry edge]

because you cant 1 shot things no more?

[sharp wing]

CV always good vs IJN BBs

[steep fog]

[vague token]

im pretty sure cv isnt bad, it's just that the ehp to damage ratio on namagi blows everything out

[merry edge]

btw fast reset means you can back out if you see the bad rng quicker?

[ionic magnet]

yea p much you cant reliably 1 shot VGs anymore

[sharp wing]

yeah

[merry edge]

how is HMS KQC (kgv QE centaur) a faster reset than nakaga tho?

[sharp wing]

if 1st strike fails, u just reset, end of story

[steep fog]

pvp is more of attrition battle now

in b4 reset 20 times

cos

[sharp wing]

KGV Mona Cent

Qe been

[merry edge]

ohhh

wait you reset on KGVs halved salvo right?

[sharp wing]

u dun reset on HMS

[ionic magnet]

kgv qe cent dont reset much also

[sharp wing]

fast reset is foxes thing

~~more like reflex ~~

[vague token]

[steep fog]

mfw yeet vg still get rekt by hiryuu

fox life

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

plebs

[merry edge]

wait ok Im confused now wym HMS > nakaga cuz fast resets?

[vague token]

my feeling when they steer right into ryuusei

head on

[sharp wing]

cause u gotta reset nakaga

[ionic magnet]

well iirc that tierlist doesnt factor speed actually

[steep fog]

nakaga = reset a ton

[merry edge]

oh

[ionic magnet]

only winrates

[steep fog]

BB comp = do pvp normally

[sharp wing]

nakaga lower cause resets

But overall nakaga can do matches faster

[ionic magnet]

^

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

that's why it's rushers comp

[ionic magnet]

pick your poison

[sharp wing]

they go for speed not 100% winrates

[steep fog]

its wash

dont need to even rush for gensui

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

just toss essex on defense to troll fox comps

jk

[steep fog]

even on friday

I use my cancer to do match slowly

still gensui

[merry edge]

it may be wash but Im a newbie scrub

[sharp wing]

You know what wash thinks about you?

[steep fog]

I dropped nakaga the moment 120 hit and my akaga still 110

[sharp wing]

I do gensui w/ Wasd on Friday

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

git gut

[merry edge]

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

does 120 wasda win against foxes

[sharp wing]

sure

but there factors

[merry edge]

I thought washys barrage didnt even hit backline

[sharp wing]

what

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

[merry edge]

iunno s what I heard

which is why they called wasd a massive meme

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

wat

[ionic magnet]

maybe you refer to bisko barrage

[vague token]

biscuit was the one with the barrage range problem

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

Wash never had barrage problems

[merry edge]

[steep fog]

biscuit barrage 0 dmg anyway

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

lmao

[steep fog]

doesnt matter

[vague token]

good old biscuit 1:1:1 barrage spread

[sharp wing]

Biscuit is more meme, than Sara

[vague token]

with 400-500 damage on heavy

[sharp wing]

No torp shells like KGV

[steep fog]

I got baited maxing barrage 1st when she 1st came out

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

cant even kill production boat

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

honestly if the barrage was aimed at vanguard

[sharp wing]

actually, now her barrage is okaish

[vague token]

id be ok with that

[sharp wing]

in pve

[vague token]

save her shelling for main

[sharp wing]

they jsut gave her barrage KGV treatment

EZ fix

copypaste as usual

[vague token]

or they could buff the tiny shots

boost her vanguard pressure that way

instead of the arcing shots

[sharp wing]

I mean when they fixed her range

just slapped kgv pattern

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

fast fix

[merry edge]

k so all in all
gib naganon nepgun/staag
reppu/818 on akagi, ryuusei on kaga
replace toolbox w boilers
replace tbtsks with belguns
replace belfast with junjun when available?

[shy hazel]

yostar: she not broken so we just copy paste shit barrage no one will complain

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

[merry edge]

at what level does jun become "usable" in pvp?

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

115+

[merry edge]

time to get to work jun

[sharp wing]

I will watch

[vague token]

just use her in ch 12

dps all the planes

[sharp wing]

[merry edge]

extra bullying

[sharp wing]

Just slap ufo on her

and let her run in the open

[merry edge]

she's lv 58 she won't last a second

[sharp wing]

She needs dorm treatment

[merry edge]

:yeptune:

[sharp wing]

Comfy bed and snacks

[merry edge]

condition them first

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

and oil comms

[sharp wing]

lube her w/ oil

[merry edge]

[vague token]

juneau retro gonna give her final counter like in the event

;)

[sharp wing]

Junie was in event?

[vague token]

"HOW DID SHE GET BEHIND ME"

[merry edge]

would that be a nerf?

[vague token]

she was last standing against purifier

[sharp wing]

Well, that was another thing

[merry edge]

oh yea now I remember

[vague token]

when everyone else was down

[merry edge]

I hought it was someone else

[vague token]

and she went jojo on her

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

Don't piss Junie

[steep fog]

in b4 heal everyone but not dying

[merry edge]

wheres the juneau shiza meme?

[steep fog]

jun kai: double heal amount

[merry edge]

get this alex
she dies, but stays alive for a short period after she dies, so she heals herself and comes back

[steep fog]

rip pvp

[merry edge]

[vague token]

retro skill would be like prevent sinking, trigger war martyr (she benefits from it), convert AA to firepower (now has 0 aa)

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

+1 AA mount

[vague token]

or i guess it would be like 50% of aa

converting 500+ aa to fp would be lel

[sharp wing]

Junie mvp

[merry edge]

how are auroras torps?

[sharp wing]

Roon would quietly sit in the corner

how shit

[vague token]

not great except maybe on destroyers

since she does 20% vs them

but 279 torp is bad

_>

[merry edge]

so uh guess I dont need to really upgrade her quints to quad mags?

[sharp wing]

well, it's always good to have full mags

[vague token]

i mean quad mags will be better cause she will have a higher chance of launching before sinking

since she's squishy

[sharp wing]

even Junie

[steep fog]

mfw missing dc so u are always -1 magtorp

[vague token]

i got a quad from a box a week or two ago

it really exists

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

[merry edge]

uhh does anyone know if intelligence chip's upgrade cost is still discounted?

[sharp wing]

nah

[steep fog]

I got 3 quad mag in 1 week after 6months without one

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

what I used b4 quad mag was 610mm

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

[wicked rivet]

chip should still be the same cost as a boiler

[split marten]

[vague token]

[split marten]

Why quad mag

Why not quint mag

[sharp wing]

Only good quint mags are rainbow

gold quint mags are just t2

🚮

And those are event rewards

[split marten]

[sharp wing]

gold quad mags are t3

[split marten]

Tfw I still use gold quint 533

[sharp wing]

[split marten]

Farming for 610 to this day

[sharp wing]

610 are really only for manual anyway

[split marten]

I got Yuudachi and I’m still only 6/15 for my 610

[sharp wing]

I drop em from boxes

[split marten]

Imagine having good box RNG

And ever getting anything gold from a t4 box

[sharp wing]

Not like i use 610

cause who manuals

[split marten]

Hey

I like using my Yuudachi okay

And she sucks on auto

[sharp wing]

90% dds succ on auto

[split marten]

Yeah

I mostly use DDs because CAsand CLs are for lazy people

Nimi is good on auto tho

Imagine having CL levels of base firepower on a DD

[sharp wing]

U tell me

She still miles behind gunboats anyway

cause there just limit how good 1 MG can be

[split marten]

Lazy CL CA users

[vague token]

laughs in london kai

[merry edge]

what kind of gunbotes tho? CL gunbotes?

[midnight heron]

did someone say farm for 610?

[shy hazel]

few

tryharder

until u have 300

[split marten]

Y so many @midnight heron

[midnight heron]

i dont even farm for it it just drops

[shell heron]

A somewhat leveled KMS fleet in PvP

[trim horizon]

[jovial sedge]

[vague token]

another dido class cruiser

oh boi

[trim horizon]

Pits class

[vague token]

sirius is dido right?

yeah

so another hms dd gun cl

[midnight heron]

dildo class

[ionic magnet]

easy no reset

missed 1 charge tho

fml

[shy hazel]

thats your fault for taking ss

loser

and im using kms fleet

[jovial sedge]

Not enough merit for bullins

the last guy ruined it was almost 3/4

[midnight heron]

not surprising

[jovial sedge]

But first guy got some honor at least

[midnight heron]

not sure how u can draw a conclusion from such a superficial factor

[trim horizon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shy hazel]

why are you even posting it here

[trim horizon]

you should post in #al-general

[coral wren]

I mean it's obvious ppl want to run meta for easier time

[lament lichen]

People put what they want on def

And besides meta teams use all 6 slots

You just showed us thats its 1/4

[coral wren]

wash is full of fox fleets

[jovial sedge]

Thata why i said the guy got som honor

[regal jacinth]

@ionic magnet is dat coincidence or .. customly attack https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/615440161651687467/Screenshot_20190826_142414_com.YoStarEN.AzurLane.jpg 😅

[ionic magnet]

wdym by coincidence

which one

[shy hazel]

it means he has 0 faith in u

[ionic magnet]

he doesn't trust hms

[regal jacinth]

u battled with Stella

😂

[ionic magnet]

yea coincidence

[regal jacinth]

😂

[ionic magnet]

but sandbaggers meet more often so

[midnight heron]

pvp is half rng half setup so

[ripe latch]

essex good on pvp?

[sharp wing]

Well, good? The problem that her skills require 1) other CVs 2) 3 other USS ships doesn't make her being able to be part of top comps

[ripe latch]

hm, no have washing

[sharp wing]

And u don't really shoot down planes in pvp

[ripe latch]

messers on fox/enter

[sharp wing]

sees superior royal engineering in the form of yet another Dido class


sees permanent LIGHT construction and Elite

[steep fog]

lul

just luccsacc

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

Thats that ship in asian written twitter message

[sharp wing]

I just managed to get above 20 cubes

[charred sable]

Motion for everyone here to vote for Juneau in the popularity contest so she can get a wedding skin and finally have a non-default skin. We PvPers abuse her way too much and she deserves some kind of recognition!

[jovial sedge]

that

I wish she would not be abused so much poor ship

Uh just wonder can u build u47?

[midnight heron]

no

[coral wren]

Uhm, is popularity voting going to decide the next oath skin?

I thought it would be just a meme chart like those from other servers

[steep fog]

top 3 get oath skin

so dont vote for ships with oath skin already

[coral wren]

inb4 wash nc and some ijn thot

[sharp wing]

Junie for the win

[trim horizon]

Atago, Illustrious top 2

[coral wren]

already have oath skins

Actually, what if those who own it will win?

[ionic magnet]

then next rank should get it i imagine

yostar wont just pass up on a chance to get more

[trim horizon]

inb4 they make lusty and ata oath skins

l2d

and call it a day

they probably have it ready

[jovial sedge]

Wash sodako would be nice no ijn thots

Ye well rigged mostly anyway cos that enty seems really popular

[coral wren]

monarch sanrui and roon would be nice

[trim horizon]

roon zulul

[jovial sedge]

Same like tako atako and such... im surprized by that ammount of vampire skins quess japs like their 1k years old lolies

[stark raft]

prolly going to be random shit like one of the clevelands, helena and newbie traps like laffey

[jovial sedge]

Wtf newbie traps? :D laffey is nice

[stark raft]

[coral wren]

yeah, prob will be some old boats like em. Also, maybe essex even

[jovial sedge]

How u even know most popular ships will get oath skins anyway also its already obvious that first 3 will be ships that already got oath skins.. anyway but still enty doesnt even got good skins :/ expect oath

[ionic magnet]

kgv juneau aurora

one can dream

[stark raft]

Dork oath with a black dress pls

[jovial sedge]

But bride should be white

[coral wren]

Dork oath with a black dress pls
Are you implying it's a shkk's funeral?

[trim horizon]

hoping for ships who have already a normal skin

[stark raft]

It'd be a funeral for other boats, her skin would sink every other with no competition

[sharp wing]

She already has skin

Also her artist just made new Zkk skin

So i wouldn't expect anything

Maybe Skk skin

[jovial sedge]

Well since zoo went really high up on popularity nuggato got skin so i assume one of the skins would be amagi which is quite question if she is more popular than typical oath ships like tako enty prinz... even tho im personally disturbed by this , she looks like ill murder your family twice

[sharp wing]

Shitting on Amagi is just full degeneracy.

Yr bias took all sense out of you.

[trim horizon]

yeah

I don't mind Amagi oath

also Miyuki voice

[jovial sedge]

Not really i was sad about her story but that one "pose" of her is not very happily done

[ionic magnet]

uncultured swine

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

Wiafu wars i musy like someones waifu because they like em

[stark raft]

Hating amagi? call daxam

[jovial sedge]

From that pic u even can see she is super happy with 100aff uh

[shy hazel]

pig

[midnight heron]

https://youtu.be/kdT0OPr7iQA?t=874 pvp cud hav been like dis lul

moving main fleet

[sharp wing]

Main fleet boilers new meta

[midnight heron]

btw dis vid is supposed to give some insight on wat happened to AL in its early days (off topic)

just happened to hav pvp stuff in there

[ionic magnet]

so thats why AL is so casual now

so much for CN being tryhards

[sharp wing]

Well, that's actually how that event was supposed to be

We got changed version

[ionic magnet]

AL too easy now
just make us fight 10 nyaga comps w/o repair

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

this is why al is shit

[sharp wing]

Loser.

[shy hazel]

yes youre a loser

time to vr

[trim horizon]

[midnight heron]

inb4 its al vr

[sharp wing]

Stella RPing Shipfu

[jovial sedge]

Shots fired

[midnight heron]

yea "shots" fired

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

when time ends you lose ?

[sharp wing]

ye

[trim horizon]

Ppeps saying if you have more hp you win

But they are casual

[blazing scroll]

A meta where Prinz Eugen would be good

[trim horizon]

lul

[sharp wing]

Prinz with rudder and beaver

[shy hazel]

people think prinz will have refit

[trim horizon]

because she's shit like normal sandy and ws

[coral wren]

whales is giga shit then

[blazing scroll]

Whales is completely random

A HMS ship that needs USS ships for buff

[trim horizon]

whales

🐳

[sharp wing]

What's the score around 500 on Sandy

[jovial sedge]

In pve she ok with muricans

[sharp wing]

I feel jebaited

[jovial sedge]

Urban legends rumora

How much dif in rank it must be for u to get bit more points?

[midnight heron]

someone didnt pay attention

[jovial sedge]

I wait 3 hours and get still 10p rip

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

But the guy was rich boi fully oathed

With skins

[trim horizon]

im around 555

[sharp wing]

and wut score

[trim horizon]

1470

[sharp wing]

hmm

[elder crane]

"I didn't read"
See pins on PvP point gain per match

[sharp wing]

i'm gonna cash in

1422

[jovial sedge]

🤔

[sharp wing]

I'm gonna cash in

[midnight heron]

cash me outside how bout dah

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

[midnight heron]

just realised theres actually no pins telling ppl how much point diff to get extra points

lul

[sharp wing]

It's on wiki

[jovial sedge]

Wow selfowned

37% on nep its so slow

[midnight heron]

im sanic on izumo

[jovial sedge]

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

think i can 120 baga just farming for her lul

[jovial sedge]

This emote os nice

Whut isnt baga cube rng

[sharp wing]

izumo was sideffect of lvling namagi

[midnight heron]

22% 2m and she went from 110 to 116

[jovial sedge]

Oh that

[midnight heron]

baga

[sharp wing]

Izumo was priority waifu target anyway

Baka

[jovial sedge]

[sharp wing]

My Baka still sits at 110

dun want to oath her

[midnight heron]

idk y she makes dat face but ok

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

virgin

[sharp wing]

Did u oath her tho

[midnight heron]

i dont oath anyone

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

never completing dis

[sharp wing]

You are an excuse of a Shitkican

[midnight heron]

oath only when all ship reach 120

[sharp wing]

OH, you are gonna be a wizard

[midnight heron]

also dis escort event needs to hav a !

not even sure if i missed 1 day

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

mandela effect too stronk

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

@midnight heron real man

[midnight heron]

no u

[jovial sedge]

I kinda feel bad already oathing 5 ships bigami is wrong

[elder crane]

The 200 aff farm brings a ship close to 120 by itself
What a waste, to oath at 120...

[midnight heron]

fundamental problem with da game tho

[jovial sedge]

Didnt oath ark cos she only true waifu... waiting for september

[midnight heron]

more time pass = more potential waifu

i spend my ring now i dont get to oath future waifu

[sharp wing]

qeq, KarlsKai hit 100 aff, gotta replace her on Roon farm

[jovial sedge]

Azuma is safe spot

[midnight heron]

pretty much a game i cant win either way

[elder crane]

That's the point

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

Azuma is Choukais "older sister" so that 200% waifu mat

[jovial sedge]

Most likely will never have a rival so its safe oath

[sharp wing]

Imagine oathing for stats

[jovial sedge]

Dont.most of u do that?

[sharp wing]

What

[jovial sedge]

And top rankers :D

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

All ships are waifu for me so it's fine~

[jovial sedge]

Its funny to see zoo without skins with oaths not changed names

[elder crane]

Well at least every ship I've oathed

[sharp wing]

Carnivorous

[elder crane]

I prefer to keep it pure on names

[sharp wing]

Same

But some are too tempting

[elder crane]

All I do is get rid of the stupid (retrofit)

[jovial sedge]

I dunno i feel like more connected

[elder crane]

Fricken (retrofit) overflows the nametag (and is ugly in general)

[jovial sedge]

Cos that ship is not numbrr 1.135b amagi

[elder crane]

Annoyingly Cassin is censored too

[jovial sedge]

But thats kinda problem with ijn their names are like normal names not like portland ex

That many people rename western ships with jap names but ijn already got it so guess no point renaming

[sharp wing]

Dege bias again

[jovial sedge]

Wtf this hater i wasnt even biased :/

[elder crane]

Lots of ppl rename ships to CN/JP heiroglyphics/moonrunes names, yeah

[jovial sedge]

Dunno whos degen still spamming degen all day

[elder crane]

Just like how I renamed to English in CN

[midnight heron]

maybe i'll oath when i can think of puns

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

Dunno if this is the pun u look for

[midnight heron]

how r those even puns

[jovial sedge]

That qu everywhere

[midnight heron]

dats not a pun bruh

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

Hmm ye well thats why i wrote i dunno

Hmm got there other one with super long names his amagi is called Kurt helborg whoever that is

[midnight heron]

u think u're punny eh

jk

[jovial sedge]

Well i dunno >< these names are somth

[midnight heron]

no idea wat those means

[jovial sedge]

Me.neither

Oh interesting.kurt is some character from warhammer

[coral wren]

fucking yikes

custom names are almost always cringe

[trim horizon]

me using lewd artist

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

I think I'll just save up

0 cubes again

no centaur

2 enties

[jovial sedge]

Is cent even in pool?

I guess so hmm i got her in event

[midnight heron]

in case anyone needs

[shy hazel]

all of them sucks

[ripe latch]

[jovial sedge]

How

[ripe latch]

dont know

[empty sinew]

abuse

[ripe latch]

but i did dont use this ship

[jovial sedge]

Ive tried to make zoo unhappy... impossoble they always so happy but ye i would not sink em for that

[shell heron]

how far did you push her on

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

Eh, don't know how to feel about rudder+sg on kgv :\

[empty sinew]

but he

did dont
use the ship tho

[shy hazel]

classroom probably

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

feels more tanky, but less dmg is quite not ok

[shy hazel]

thats the only way to lose affection when u dont use the ship

but it shouldnt be possible

[ripe latch]

time to increas

[sharp wing]

Just leave her be, she will go back to 119 automatically

[coral wren]

Damn, i actually wanna test namagi taihoe and namagi izumo, but i guess bitching oni will be quite meh without her maxed fate sim

[sharp wing]

Izumo on flank is very meh

[shell heron]

that's affinity level. it won't recover until she's actually used when happy

[sharp wing]

before barrage reaches main, it splits in 2 halves

[coral wren]

Really? How is her maxed barrage? Due to wiki it has some good dmg

[sharp wing]

only 1 half hits enemy main and some projectiles go between as well

Taihoe ofc works great

[shell heron]

Read it's mainly normal shells. fate5 replaces some with AP shells so a bit better I guess

[coral wren]

Well, i wonder how much better 😄

[sharp wing]

Also it's other way around

her barrage is initially AP

[coral wren]

Hm, then i don't quite get why many make it looks like she is a complete fucking garbage

[sharp wing]

She deals close to no damage to light

light 1/5 damage

She's bad for general mobbing w/ lots of light

good vs sirens etc

Also she will burn a lot if there source

[coral wren]

wow, they actually took the wows mechanic where bb's shot just go through destroyers dealing no dmg

[sharp wing]

xD

[coral wren]

fucking retards

[sharp wing]

She's good vs sirens cause they have med/heavy armor mostly and shoot AP shells

And her barrage has no central focus on end of screen

[coral wren]

Hm, ok. But i guess jb is still the ultimate weapon against elites

[ripe latch]

best pr for farm

barrage every shots

[sharp wing]

Dunk with preload + Barrage also fun

and she is not forced into french guns

Tho i'd like if they gave her 330 skill

that her AP gun

like 380, but Ap

[coral wren]

Honestly, they should have made izumo a t1-t0 with amagi staying in t2

[sharp wing]

It's also fun, Izumo is amongst highest tech ships in game

t9 w/ taihoe and roon

[ripe latch]

her barrage usless after 11 chapter, another ships more useful

[sharp wing]

Her barrage is more useless in earlier maps

the more med/heavy armor, the better she is

Earlier maps are mostly light armor, where she deals 1/5 damage

[ripe latch]

she can spam barrages

[steep fog]

imagine having izumo for early maps

[coral wren]

waste of a decent design(compared to another furryshit)

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

Izumo design is real bs

[coral wren]

well, main battery being a scabbard is quite silly, not gonna lie

[sharp wing]

I mean shipwise, not character

Also in pve her barrage pattern actually acceptable, cause shorter distance

[coral wren]

shipwise they prolly didn't event test her barrage on high end maps

[sharp wing]

Well, her barrage hits med/heavy by a lot

[coral wren]

but for a barrage boat she has way too many drawbacks

[sharp wing]

basically nagato barrage, aside shit vs light

and doesn't ignite all screen

[steep fog]

but its 70%

[sharp wing]

but pierces all

[steep fog]

[coral wren]

I wonder if they asked some russian from wows to make a design

would explain why it is so shit

[steep fog]

anyway just wait for georgia

[sharp wing]

Well, Izumo has top statline at least

Aside aa

[jovial sedge]

russians in wows how that is connected

[coral wren]

they are devs?

And very poor

at balancing stuff

[sharp wing]

PR ships are collab with WoWs, where russian devs have Russian ships bias

[coral wren]

and pr boats is a collab between them and manjew

and izumo is a shit boat there despite being almost in the end of a ship tree

[sharp wing]

Well, same as in AL it's top of tech tree

That cat lodge is irritating lol

Think it's bugged to pop up sometimes as long as u have money to buy catbox

[coral wren]

Lmao, apparently, ussr's high tier ships are all paper. And they are the best bbs in the whole fucking game

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

just don't let that shit slip into al

[jovial sedge]

ye well but al dev are chinese

and bias jap ><

[sharp wing]

Chinawall

[jovial sedge]

tho strange so in WoW russians ships are op yet here there is only 1 ship

[sharp wing]

There just no China ships in ww2

[jovial sedge]

arnt chinese ships garbo

there are

[sharp wing]

side those soviet DDs and few CLs

[coral wren]

Yep, ashan and some others

slavs just sell em to chinese

[sharp wing]

ashan are bought from USSR DDs

[coral wren]

Also, i think aurora is also a chinese ship after ww2 😄

[sharp wing]

yeah

[coral wren]

oh fug

[jovial sedge]

hmm kinda didnt know if russians had any good ships... cos there are non in al so i thought they did not exist

they got subs and shitton of em that what i know

[sharp wing]

they fought little on sea during ww2

[coral wren]

their navy was shit because they didn't really need it

[sharp wing]

after normandia

[coral wren]

i think even italians had a better navy

[sharp wing]

ofc

[jovial sedge]

[sharp wing]

Italians naval nation

[coral wren]

meme navy tho

[sharp wing]

We get them next anyway

[coral wren]

really?

fuck

[sharp wing]

It's been planned for some time already

Sardinia faction

It's just gets delayed all the time

[coral wren]

they can't decide how bad do they want to make em

[sharp wing]

Italian fleet was formidable enough to be threat to French fleet

[merry edge]

Is ykkz kinda a counter to hiryuu because she just lives and waits out hiryuus 2-3 strikes?

[sharp wing]

Also they got some advanced designs

Like super destroyer

[merry edge]

Also pretty sure jp notes said ijn event next, although dunno is this current mini event festival is supposed to be that

[coral wren]

if ykkz survives barrages, then kinda

[ripe latch]

yukikaze > all ships

[jovial sedge]

italian mob wifes design

[sharp wing]

Yukikaze-sama Nanoda!!!

[coral wren]

but nagato can just beat her into a bloody pulp

[ripe latch]

yuki with beaver and new engine - 100% survive

[sharp wing]

DD w/ eva gear

[ripe latch]

pvp

[merry edge]

[sharp wing]

That's not how u give eHP to DDs

esp in pvp

[coral wren]

if you give her eva gear than enjoy watching her die even sooner, lmao

[sharp wing]

never put eva gear on DD

[ripe latch]

nagato + enter barrages - not deal dmg to this dd

[jovial sedge]

more eva? does it really work cos jav gets hits

[coral wren]

oh boy

[ripe latch]

high lucky + eva

[sharp wing]

High eva has very deminishing returns

[merry edge]

No because eva is capped at 90%

[sharp wing]

AKA why HMS DDs succ

[merry edge]

Also you cant dodge burns

[jovial sedge]

90% of shots evaded?

[ripe latch]

95%

trash ship

[sharp wing]

DDs u stack hp

[merry edge]

I was told jaburin doesnt even hit eva cap

Only chinawall

[jovial sedge]

uh 95% and wait still trough that they die i wondered 95% that should avoid everything almost

[sharp wing]

Chinawall has eva rate

it's broken

[ripe latch]

ok summary
yuki - 120lvl + oath + new engine + beaver/oxy torp = 100% win

[sharp wing]

like Amagi

lmao

oxy/beaver

🤦

[jovial sedge]

but chinwall is garbo >< compared to amagi

[ripe latch]

see that trash on game

[sharp wing]

U are garbo

chinawall can tank w12 bosses on auto on max threat at lvl 106-107

[jovial sedge]

thats weird ywis dont even recommend them or anyone at all also no use in pvp >< so

[sharp wing]

No other ships can do that at those lvls

cause that's ywis

get yr own fcking brains

[jovial sedge]

well i got one but dont got whole day like u to use it for studying it mobile game : /

[sharp wing]

Tierlists are not manuals to the game

[trim horizon]

oh yeah, putting ships without damage output seems legit

[sharp wing]

They are to give noobs general idea of what is relatively good and bad

[trim horizon]

imagine having difficulty into understanding a mobile a game

[merry edge]

Didnt chinawall get nerfed tho

[sharp wing]

lmao

[merry edge]

Medium to light

[sharp wing]

eh what

[merry edge]

S what I heard. Lemme checkkk

[sharp wing]

they are CLs

[merry edge]

iunno I just heard that chinawall hasnt been a thing since they got nerfed

which sounded weird because I didnt know this game did strict nerfs

[trim horizon]

[jovial sedge]

ye they do.. nerfect NC for no reason

also birm

[trim horizon]

0 cubes for BP

[jovial sedge]

40 out of 50 first top on sandy zoo

[trim horizon]

do you even know what's the meaning of meta

[jovial sedge]

ah yes you need zoo meta on def so your zoo offence wins 100% against zoo def elaborate

[trim horizon]

that doesn't answer my question

define meta

[jovial sedge]

ill choose my right not to answer this pointless question so you can then go and be smart and everything else that follows seriously

[trim horizon]

either you are a troll or just brain damaged

[jovial sedge]

i mean why do you even ask it ... thist ulterior motive

[trim horizon]

because I'd like to know if you're capable of thinking instead of "hurr durr IJN"

[jovial sedge]

ive pointed out some statistic finding was wondering if its as bad as it looks and yes it is and wha hurr durr ijn

[sharp wing]

1st of all Meta comp is pecific 5 ships... half of IJN fleets you find are not even "meta"

[jovial sedge]

i know im not very in home with the whole points systems but people were saying def doesnt matter at all so was like looking on it and everywhere same main fleet comp

[sharp wing]

removing 1 singe ship can change winrate by 10-20%

[jovial sedge]

ye but do you really need that def comp thats what i wonder

[sharp wing]

I put it specifically for ppl like you

[jovial sedge]

ye u did but chances i see u there are miniscule

[stark raft]

Bruh all you need is a team that can destroy cancer and you can stop caring

[sharp wing]

I used meme def for a month before

[stark raft]

Offence makes it easy and you have infinite resets

[jovial sedge]

still just some salty answer no real reasoning yet u wonder why u sound more and more degen

[sharp wing]

Well, it's not just me, that's the thing

Only salty person here is u

[jovial sedge]

ye i dont go and call people names : / never ever point directly on a single person ehre

[stark raft]

Just relax and level your ships

[sharp wing]

Yeah, Aurora was sold to China on '48

[midnight heron]

just get cancer to fight cancer

[trim horizon]

or HMS

you get a decent winrate

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp wing]

This is too adorable

[midnight heron]

[blazing scroll]

It's almost like the meta needs more freedom

[sharp wing]

no u

[blazing scroll]

MURICA

[sharp wing]

Wasd or go home

You even got 120 Wasd?

[blazing scroll]

I want Georgia tho

[midnight heron]

i got 110 wasd

[sharp wing]

pleb

[trim horizon]

Georgia

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

Got xp stacked tho

[midnight heron]

seattle or gtfo

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

Gascogne

[trim horizon]

does langley bonus xp count for PR2 ?

[midnight heron]

well dat too

[sharp wing]

yeah

it's same end of mission exp

or wdym

Might max her skill by the time PR 2 comes

[trim horizon]

yeah dat

[sharp wing]

Only lvled houshou skill

Mommy care

[blazing scroll]

Same

[sharp wing]

Tho they stack

which is weird too

[midnight heron]

i never lvled any exp skill

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

not like i got enuf books

[sharp wing]

yellow boox

[midnight heron]

new event = new ships = new skills

where got timeresources

[blazing scroll]

It isn't a command skill so it makes sense

[sharp wing]

Well, any same name skills dun stack

[elder crane]

I swim in books
But only 3 slots and only so much time

[midnight heron]

nani

im lacking all books always

[sharp wing]

same

[midnight heron]

only red is lacking in purple and blue rarity tho

[sharp wing]

t3 boox are instinct

[midnight heron]

and no sane person uses blue books first

[sharp wing]

and buy all from shop and exchange

[midnight heron]

unless u got too much time

i mean blue as in rarity

[sharp wing]

I use all books

[blazing scroll]

The game needs more blue skills

[sharp wing]

oh

[elder crane]

Well ofc I mean all rarities
Gold runs out, as well as red purples
But rest, are plentiful

[jovial sedge]

the loading screen says muricans specializes in cruisers and carriers shme it not true

[blazing scroll]

Thats the only t3 thats stacking

[midnight heron]

i pretty much hav 0 gold rarity lul

[elder crane]

Gold books of wrong colour are about as good as purples of the right one anyways

[sharp wing]

I am out of blue t3 too

and still got skills to lvl

[elder crane]

Blue and even Yellow gold books, would overflow if I didn't use on red skills

[midnight heron]

game needs moar book inflow

[sharp wing]

i use only w bonus

[midnight heron]

and coin

same

[jovial sedge]

got this only 😦

[midnight heron]

dats already gud enuf if u max

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

I just realized, I've a 120 WaSD that hasn't been touched since 120

[sharp wing]

[jovial sedge]

RIP

[elder crane]

Not in PvE or PvP

[midnight heron]

i only hav namagi 120

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

jun should be better than bel

[sharp wing]

sicc fox need rest

[steep fog]

[elder crane]

I've 15 120s iirc

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

Maybe one or two more since I last counted

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

WaSD, Namagi, Baka, Hiryuu, Enty, Dork, Monarch
Ykkz, Jun, Jint, Sendai, Sheff, Aurora
Not sure if I'm missing anyone

[midnight heron]

tf

all pvp meta

[sharp wing]

Pleb

[elder crane]

Oh right Hood

So 16 I think

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

Forgot Warspite too, 17

[blazing scroll]

Tfw ykk is still 119 because you only lvl her in pvp

[midnight heron]

same lul

pretty much all except namagi/sheff lvl up in pvp

[jovial sedge]

[empty sinew]

17 120s

nice

i have 18 tho

[shell heron]

19

[white granite]

I have 0

[empty sinew]

[jovial sedge]

same

well enty is close