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xD
oh you know what, i forgot cls get 20% damage amp
that's probably why i said that
cause biscuit goes down 20% while the cls gun damage wouldnt move
Btw what first nep or monarch?
yeah biscuit pvp gun damage goes down to 116 before armor
while theoretical gun cl goes to 101
dear god that's sad
but for pve more understandable
@balmy torrent
Hmm so nep problem is that till i get them will take so much time its possoble meta changes meanwhile
Well the more boilers enemy have the less I'd value bisko
sometimes they are too fokin fast

biscuit covers that
with the spread
no other cl gun works
until seattle gun
but that's just becaus seattle gun is godlike
xD
i dont see many sanruis
It's hard to land shit on those fast af vanguards
na, you usually hit with at least 1 of the pellets
course it gets evaded
if you use a no-spread cl gun
you're going to whiff
but belgun covers a huge amount of screen space
sure you lose 66% of your cl gun damage
but better some hits than no hits
is this on nep?
biscuit
oh her aux
yeah

the problem is that -30% plus the pvp penalty to backlines
makes her aux damage almost as low as a cl gunboat
116 before armor vs 108 (cl 15% damage boost)
that's pathetic
nepgun does weird things with biscuit skill
not on bisko though
yeah xD
kgv would be retarded if she had better barrage
as retarded as amagi? 
What is nep gun?
doesn't look pretty but it still adds damage 
I remember when ppl datamined her skills ppl were fired up because they thought she would buff hms ships for 20+ dmg against ijn
the king is opposite of the queen.... he takes the energy of the botes for himself instead of giving it to others
i mean ap cl guns have a decent mod vs light still
and unlike belgun you dont need as much positioning to land all the hits
this secondary is meant for suicide botes but should be ok in PvP too
the budget option xD
What is that nep gun ><
Uh gpt none of those and ive been researching since start
I guess tbtsk works until you get nepgun 
lol I have that gun..dumped that to Juneau last time
Well my muricams must do so far in pvp till i get hms
I haven't even start researching nep... now stuck finishing saint louis which probably is not that good... I got my monarch fairly quick cause of british BBs tho
Sanrui is whatever for PVP, a lot here got disappointed
You can ask around since my sanrui is dev 26
FFNF but leeching off exp from eagle union navy
sanrui only purpose is a light armor boss destroyer in pve

but late world its all med/heavy

she's still gonna be punching med/heavy pretty hard though
new baguette ship roleplaying as yukikaze
fucking bataan keeps dying in w12 
Cent + Uni
and sandy frontline
Gonna swap Uni out
It's mogami and isuzu farming my ibuki frontline
I have 2 of all PR gears
lol
you probably can still afk dorm + comission san juan and still make it for the chat bubble thingy
nah not aiming for that
I got all of them to level 70 but missing gold and 2 gold bulins

nice juneau didn't have to die for your sins
Uhh, what ppl were using for kms vanguard, jesus/roon/yuki?
Oki.
wow, qe on loading even looks not bad
Her attitude tho 
I mean new loading with ship descriptions
lul free cube

where is the gold tho
gold was previous mail
centaur dealing 40k with every namagyu slaying 
Enty skin 
I don't remember the last time I used Enty

There goes shitty skin
Avrora event icon needs pop-ups, i forget to get rewards each day, lol
I don't think it affects progression anyway
only cvs i used lately are Lusty and Shouhou
yea 
no 
same name skills doesn't stack
bad sig
houshou and langley xp skill does stack

you leveled Centaur w/ them ?
yes, even though bringing houshou makes it less oil efficient
was aiming for speed though
welp burnt my Houshou

Yuubari we are getting tomorrow, will have cruiser exp buff 
Rejoice brothers
- rng support toolkit
My houshou 99, Langley 90
my langley is 70
but not maxed skills

houshou lvl 8

double toolbox 
frankly those CVs with aux gun slots should have non 0 fp
or take avi into gun calculation instead of fp
only zeppy has fp
Sara skill guns use Avi
that's too optimistic
and another month at least to grind it
IF RNGesus be kind enough
PR2 has no focus gear projects at all
I got second 152 today
Also i fought Nyaga w/ Mle dd gun some days ago and it was really broken
She shoots like machine gun

just got my 2nd Nepgun but can't use it 

don't have the moni to upgrade it
I'm MLBing border ships still
Since i didn't get Birm till last day and din't know if i should bother
I mlbed essex and pulling everytime I can
I want to stop thinking about building as soon as possible
we're in the same boat
19 coobs
hey I only managed to get Birm due to Yostar mail
my cubes started going downhill since the subs
i ditched the SSR U-sub cuz gey
unless they don't get every event and collab ship
glad i did it tho
Centaur appeared too did only 40 shots which were half of what I had at the time
balti banner only took 80 coobs 
I pulled Cent on last day with few cubies
Birm hunt took me around that alone
Those damn elites always cuck me
u mean this one or previous]
lmao

๐ณ

Well, usually I also lack coins, but have coob
But this last events
is bs
Since Bisco it went downhill
Before Bisco i always had 200 cubes reserver at any time
too many consecutive events 
doublr builds
and I spent 800+ cubes in light

Only got Aurora from wishing
We need wishing as monthly thing
SRs are easy to get
Elites are the problem
there just too many
u get like at best dozen SRs in banner
and hundread Elites
Well, Aber is in every heavy event build
dafuq
Elites just succ to pull
Well, sitting here and complaining about AL gacha makes me laugh actually, after playing some games, where getting few SRs a year is normal without whaling
U get used to good thing fast 
Oh, i forgot about reset

that's -4 or 5
easy ded list 
Which BB hits the hardest per Salvo with double pencil aux?
I put them on South Dakota and managed to hit a 10k crit
Any other ship that could do better?
ok i went to the live stream
and oh god
people's equipment at lvl 100+
so questionable
some of these hurt. flexing them on us
Thats normal if you've been playing for a while 
i think sodak is the strongest bb with focused strike
jean bart if your shells hit
on manual
yeah without manual i think 2x from focused strike with a crit is better since it'll work on all 3 gun shots
friedrich 
apologems 


inb4 100 apologems

gg
if you face a person with the same rank as you, that's a +0 regardless of their rank right?
made the mistake of rolling for that last +1. Out of refreshes for next reset

But you cant be the same rank??
can't fuck up if nothing is happening 
lol
Cant fk up if you dont pvp
there is no sharing ranks in pvp even with the same score. there been a few EoS where some of us got the same score
but one of us finished our matches first so I got the higher rank 
I'll find out soon enough I guess, unless supremeacy or frayya moves some more
moving early is a trap, moving too late is a trap
unless you're very ahead 
And free ring and gems 

PR2 Earlier
"Mikasa where?" chants were met with "October"
Acknowledged holding it on the Iowa, while she's not in the game, is a little awkward
PR2 will be coming "earlier than you'd think" along with a revamp for PR1 research missions and requirements
Nondescript changes are coming to dorms later in the year
Next major story event for all servers in December, won't be faction specific
Plans to add the ability to rerun past event for players to get the event ship and see the story at some point
Hard Mode, Exercises and Dailies will get touched up at some point to be more rewarding
JP's 2nd Anniversary next month will have "more announcements" and anything shown there will be added to EN immediately
No plans to ever delay or wait for new content once Mikasa finally comes, sorta teased a retrofit
Warspite Retrofit, along with many others, planned for around November in some global retrofit event
San Diego retrofit next week
WS for november
Kappa

All this rushing is very unfriendly to coins
Well, u seen her stats? 
Time to oath
with free ring
gonna flex this 7 day DR ship

i mean unless mikasa retro is god tier she wont boot out the ever so important ijn flag spot
but i guess it probably will be
xD
mikasa amagi kagabb 
50,000 golds azuma and 60,000 fdg 
2nd anni gift, stream compensation for it being extra meme?
Dunno but its a free ring 
someone in the offline anni went 


lel


does anybody remember whats the winrate of nakagas vs maxed namaryuus?
Isnt it 60
is it that high

Aren't nakaga supposed to be obsolete by now?
well either way current hms should be t0. 5 also cos it has about 70% wr from my testing
gonna update later
I never lost to any nakaga since I switched over to my monarch, namagi. Nor even refresh
Let me know how it fair if you encounter
will do 
I'm reading the plebians chat in degeneral. I can't wait for them to use their tahous in exercise... More food the better the faster I finish my day

/cries in essex
essex in taihou
I mean
my mom walked into my room last night with that screen open and was like "is this your waifu?" and I was like no mom thats a loading screen
lel
Everytime i log in i press on her
touch taihou tiddie
220 cubes for her
wait cleve's skin is L2D 
Huh it seems like aurora Namayuu is actually quite popular now on Avrora, among the top players at least
Which means the not-uncommon Louis Namayuu is actually probably worth it now
Well check out leaderboard defense teams
I count like 5 namayuu aurora and 3 namayuu Louis in top 50 or so
I've seen both
Kinda interestingly, for Namabaka Aurora, I suspect namayuu aurora is the slightly harder matchup
Not quite sure why, maybe cause lead Jun evaping early (and ykkz before she procs her heal too) favours Hiryuu over Baka? Might also be early end to VG fight favours Hiryuu
early vg kill always favors hiryuu
because ryuusei doesnt rng anymore
and if you didnt rng kill hiryuu with bbkaga
or amagi
you're gonna get trolled rng wise
Also means AA much less effective
yeah
Basically you lose with Namabaka if you both fail to proc Hiryuu not too late and you fail to convincingly win the duels vs Namagi
rng bois
Also I should really stop Auroraing with Namabaka, I think
Back to Sheff probably until I max Louis or Nep
aurora is the nightmare
cause i run shell/rudder biscuit and shell/fast radar amagi because i dont have the fp buff
so it's fine for them as long as vanguard is there to shield
and sara with rwg/beaver stalls out enemy amagi
xD
cause she has thicc hp
if only biscuit's barrage got crit boosted by her own skill X_x or something
That barrage imo should also be 100% proc with how weak it is
biscuit should be a lot of things
did you know
that her cl gun has base 116 in pvp
compared to a MGM+1 cl like montpelier who hits 101
she does 15% more damage as a bb with her aux than a cl
______________>
(using belgun)
Oh man her -%dmg stacks additively with PvP mods, doesn't it
-20% for BB, which means -30% is 37.5% less damage than other BB secs ignoring all else
you forget
she has 180 eff
AND
aux +1
not aux +2
so she's like -60%
or so
probably
ignoring that nagato has 210%
of course
xD
oh and
her crit skill only works on main weapons
i think
at least based on the wording
Single greatest damage decrease is still interetingly her -30% part of skill
For PvP that's actually more nerf than losing one aux gun
yeah
Yeah autocrit initial salvo is main gun only afaik
i mean it stacks together though
no i meant the passive 20% crit buff
to all kms
im PRETTY sure it only works on the main gun
not all weapons
but the wording is vague
so
who knows

Idk that seems like it should work on all weapons
At least in PvE it feels like her secs crit a lot too
Also it's -35% not -30%, derp
it says main gun
on the in game skill
now of course
it COULD mean all guns
but bad translation
Which means -43.75% from that skill effect alone XD
but it could also mean just the first weapon slot, torpedos, and planes
since there arent any kms vgs with aux guns
3 namaryuu sanrui comps ey, and I'm one of them 
so yeah, it's pretty bad
her first shot crit is good though
she can still push damage out as long as she shoots backline
or rng murder a vanguard
xD
but since crit skill doesnt work on barrage
it's actually a worse buff compared to FP
also not sure if it works on tirpitz mag torps
since they are technically just mag quints
Well it's +20% to do +50% dmg if no special crit mods
Which is at best a +10% dmg to what it affects, but is actually a more like +7-9% usually since base crit rate isn't 0
And also has negative synergy w her autocrit skill
yeah
and it doesnt work on skills =(
like i would have preferred 10% fp/torp/avi
xD
oh well once essex is online ill be dropping biscuit anyways
interesting how i have same winrates vs sanrui and non sanrui comps while using aurora
because you kill ykk and juneau faster
cant really call sanrui an aurora counter 
sanrui doesnt actually protect anyone
sanrui only hard counters standard cl stall
because she's just a strict upgrade
more hp, more speed, more damage
unfortunately she dies just as fast to main fleet xD
yea i guess
and sanrui actually helps my own ykkz stay alive
instead of suiciding in front of nagato and amagi
but yeah, if sanrui could solo kill the lead CL
she'd be good
but her hit is way too low to do that
well that too
but you whiff a lot
even when lined up
it's very rng whether she guns down juneau lead or jintsuu leads (on torp memes)
before hiryuu blows up your own lead
or if you just eat a big seven
yea it depends mainly on your backline to do real dmg
xD
VG dmg is just w/e
well, for me personally ykk pushes damage out 15k+

but that's PURELY because
she is 100% synced to sara's escort fleet bonus
using rainbow quint
so she is cheating her damage up quite a bit
that wont apply for most
i think sanrui hits around 12k usually
i think mine does around 10k only
xD
it's mostly because the quints are nice and slow
so she gets the buff while they're slowing moving towards enemies
yea same with my cent slow i guess
but screen is too messy to notice usually when she fires all those torps

kek
With namgi-type Sanrui is significantly more an issue vs Aurora than no Sanrui, from what I can tell
With Namayuu-Aurora Sanrui teams get rolled a fair bit less in my experience, less than mirror VG too
Namabaka sees it as well, though less so

sanrui p much replaces ykkz as a cockroach when vs aurora comps
not for me xD
ryuusei hurts
amagi barrage hurts a LOT
you know sanrui was probably better when amagi didnt exist
then you could troll nakaga
since aurora wouldnt debuff her
and would force sendai instead
ryuusei often just misses completely when it targets vg 
xD
She was used quite often for WaSD afaik, yeah, for that exact reason basically
time to oath nanoda
Also a big part of why Sendai was used in addition/instead
much less the follow up hiryuu rng
"does ryuusei murder me or whiff completely today"
xD
or the top secret 818 hiryuu
818 Hiryuu is ๐ฎ usually
Not sure if I'd run it over cuda even (probably still?)
oh i just mean sanrui has a tough time
a lot stacked against her
cause 818 into amagi is also dead
xD
in grand scheme of things it's w/e
but it does exist
;)
410 amagi then I suppose? Or at least no HFCR
yeah
i dont think it's good but ive seen a few 818s
and since im not running meta it's an issue for me
oh hey someone running namagi shouhou
xD
bought 2 818's but not using it 
also 3rd nepgun 
nice
that's sandy loli
isnt that smol sandy

Lil sandy yikes
oops a loss, was playing tft xD

you just oathed now Ykkz 
no
that's famine
it was exactly like that in cn when she was released as well
you dont question famine
might start doing those again just cuz no event map
just realised cant fit her in w8 hard cuz restrictions 
lol
spamming 12-4 for choukai for me 
oh boi
xD
Loli fest
still havent oathed anyone cuz dilemmas 
Any suggestion for pvp?
cuda to 818, maybe
And kaga to ryusei?
yes, usually that's way to go
juno skin, so close yet so far
funnily enough the jp tweet translates it to juneau
xD
That's why i read proper translations on community discord news 
At least its a free skin
To be unlcked SOON
inb4 need all anni ships for border 
It says it needs some event item
Event item needs all anni ships 
Essex is still evading me
I have 0 ships so far
4 Taihous already
Hm, for some reason efficiency of kgv has lowered in both pve and pvp ๐ค
Wdym?
her dmg was shit for the whole day, without any equip changes. But maybe that's just poor rng
Some speedy bois can run past most shells 
Nepgun on KGV and cent/mon can't keep up at all
sendai flare was important for sanrui back when amagi didnt exist ;)
Sendai is just anti CA aurora, also even more frail than Aurora, but her torp buff stacks w/ Jin or whatever other buff
Also Sendai cannot debuff for opening torps

was there any hotfixes?
isnt that the thing where other discord servers can follow updates from news and stuff?
i tested dat discord function but doesnt work
not sure if it only works on @ pings
also i dont use kgv so cant say if bugged 
wat im concerned tho is dis current match im fighting has some ridiculous bs
rudder amagi acting like having no eva at all
- bs enemy procs
I tried using 2 rudder + beaver team, but it's really bs
Not only they don't evade shit, they also miss a lot due to no double SG 
idk man ur backline ships r supposed to get much higher ehp with more eva
supposed
yet sometimes it just doesnt seem like it
yea its completely fucking bs
clearly my opponent isnt using rudder
cuz of extremely high hit rate
yet still can evade a lotta my shit as well
fuck off rng
srsly fuck off
Well, my wasd srsly miss 80% shells on regular basis at 120 even double sg lol
1 match i had enemy Enty stand with 100% hp alone in the end

im resetting just to see how much bs it can get
1 amagi barrage managed to take my amagi 50%
tf
xD
srsly wtf is going on
yet MY barrage doesnt even deal dat much
or miss
and keep in mind attacker supposedly has 20% dmg reduc
I'm too occupied w/ other game atm to be bothered much anyway
Just got my Gensui on reset as usual and forget about pvp till monday
I had that bs again when yr app/emu crash during pvp match, u lose ticket
dats some nonsense
happened few times already
also im rly beginning to believe pvp is getting fucked somehow
I think Blue got that too
me too
lol
maybe some aux isn't working, i don't really know
just rng
also difference in hit rate between sg radar and rudder is just ~7%
so its not that much
its just BB salvos are practically a coinflip (~50% hitrate)
thats why i always prefer 1 rudder/beaver + 1 sg radar as aux to match enemies and just let attacker bonus decide the match

apparently attacker bonus doesnt apply to me lul my amagi got amagi barraged from 100-50 on first salvo
sounds like all 4 barrage shells hit
with some lucky salvos
Short 2 attacks 

And get walled 

I'll never forget that season, not because I dropped my chance at r1
but the fact I got walled by "that" 


Better use sara then
Thats the point


heh

Kimochi ~~~ 
thought we had to do the lvl 80 challenge at 1st glance lmao
Another day another ragefest..hmm uve put hms even on 0.5 but what i wanted to say since i got no yuki i cant even properly compete : /stupid broken shit

Obv not cos u got her
Seems also u play gf
95% of these fleet comps consist of yuki somth... srsly and when.u gotta 15 times reset fight to win :/... also that whole reset is
bcs
yuki is the only permanent ship in any pvp fleet

she can tank your whole vg if backline cant kill her































