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So the buff is active even if the shells are fired?
yeah should be, even if mid air.
I tested the damage of her barrages with and without sync and it matches up
Hmm I have reppuu/sea fury/ryuuseu lemme see if mine syncs
most games coding are like that tbh. buff doesnt take into account the fact that projectile was already fired before you got buffed. it only care about when the damage is dealt
Yeah mine also syncs, noice
don't worry, QE will sync with the slow perfectly fine 
still doesnt sync with all three salvos
and if you're talking about 2nd and 3rd salvos only, then doy ws monarch can all do that too
Yeah but ws doy don't buff so whats your point.
honestly if you're gonna play HMS without QE or KGV in the fs spot, you should just use Amagi or Nagato
qe deals peanut dmg even if you add up her buff
thats the point
whyd you think qe is still the core of hms
really
Kgv is essential rn, while qe can be benched for good
Its enough damage to wipe many VGs if they hit, which they do with Centaur's slow.
yea im just saying doy and ws can do whatever qe can do except better
except nah because they don't buff
Just use whichever HMS you want, we're not tied down to lolis 
a no impact buff sure
QE does the job of blowing up VGs just fine while buffing the others. Putting doy or ws there doesnt change shit except you get no buff, congrats
you're making me hate qe more thanks
I've tested QE fleets and non QE fleets
non QE fleets do less damage and have much less survivability
EVA and FP buff are essential.
Well, hms have choices, unlike namagyu. You just pick whatever you have more sucess with.
I can understand why people shit on QE pre-centaur. But now that we have Centaur, she actually lets QE actually hit things you know.
Just use the King, Queen, Corgi, Elf, Ruler, Vampire, Sub and your choice of maid 

qe buff translates to +11-12% dmg and +3-4% eva rate for reference

add in the fact that she's a pure shelling bote
also centaur lets other hms bote hit things easier now too
QE keeps this chat alive
QE vs another hms shelling boat is gonna do the same shit except you won't get buffs. thats my point. QE does enough damage with Centaur to wipe VGs so why would you put Warspite or Doy there, you get the same result except no buffs.
You're gonna be using one of those two with a QE comp anyways
that's because i actually kept tabs on my dmg charts for a week of using qe
its easy to calculate how much she contributed with her buff and no, her buff cant compensate her lack of dmg
also ws/doy has the utility of sniping an enemy faster
"Sniping" is barely even a thing anymore with Juneau and Yukikaze, Amagi around.
ok replace sniping with killing and my point still stands
Damage being dealt to enemy backline without their VG being dead is signifigantly worth way less than after, sometimes worth zero.
doy can yeet VGs too you know, its not as often as kgv but she can literally 1 shot them if it hits
also ws killing amagi faster is always an advantage
Again, we are coming back to my point. QE will do the same to VGs.
qe dmg is peanuts thats my point all along
its depressing when i see 4k total dmg by her
yeah and my point is that it that it doesnt matter because she's doing enough to still wipe the VG.
and it shows on my winrates with her idk what to say anymore
anyways i prolly can do another test when i find a good opponent since my cent is 118 now so should be acceptable
well, my win rates say QE is good so 
too often when I don't use QE, one of my backline dies too early

so I always figure the EVA is important.
it IS important but giving up dmg output is a no no for me
Yeah but you're not really giving up damage. There's only a case for KGV cause she can early nuke but thats about it.
i just slapped rudders/beaver on my backline and its fine from my experience
hmm that kinda explains it but no use arguing sg vs rudder cos its a 7% hit/eva rate tradeoff
QE compensates enough for the eva loss when going full SG I guess. Which is probably why I see my non QE comps die faster.
yeah that makes sense
What future comps when warspacito comes though
Mon KGV Warkai or you guys keeping your cents 
using aurora recently felt so satisfying for my low-ish hit BBs
Use whatever when ws kai comes out, i'm not even gonna bother testing anything post ws kai. She just breaks the game. I heard foxes/wskai is good so just do that lel
wskai mon cent/qe
Yeah id do Mon KGV Warkai def fleet with 3 rudders and use Cent Warkai QE/KGV offence 
wskai kgv qe
3 BB def team with nepguns to fuck around with ppl
qe is actually good for tanking enemy ws 
Maybe even Hiryuu Warkai Amagi def team 
QE talk 
Imagine if kms and ibris also were viable
That's not even funny 
but jb and sanrui are viable
so u can say french is viable
just too few botes
wow, i rushed 5 ticks few hrs before daily reset and i'm still lowest rank on my list

Well, i just hope they will get some good flagship
enjoy your alabama 
Alabanana
- trop damage to main fleet, OP buffs there 500 iq
And they ain't even affect airborne torps


sorry, uss isn't allowed to have good ships
they made that to fuck with the ppl who didnt get Cent

Ijn bias is gross as fuck
I'm missing both 
Just remember daxxam, purple and below isn't worth your cubes
ya but did you know Amagi is a literal mathematically superior boat? 
you wouldn't have known if dax hasnt told you

Dax was a good man. I'm pretty sure he would still be here defending the queen with me if he wasn't busy with IRL.

Not gonna use loli with monkey face
Cent as well, what a superior body to thigh ratio


Some ppl don't like Traps
A lot of people were, they called me crazy for shilling KGV instead of bisko 
bisko what
When their event dropped, I looked at KGV and started training her for pvp
i miss dax simply cos we need more serious ppl here 
you mean gluttonous whores?

kgv class was a mistake

double mistake 
I was shitting on KGV initially too but I reserved full conviction until I maxed her and tested. I'd like to think Daxam wouldve realized her potential too if he had the time to train her like he planned to.

heh funny how i trained my kgv all because noone else wants to and im so desperate to find a better comp to use vs namaryuus
cos i got no nagato
Well most ships with % buffs should get better over time 
unless their stat gain is absolute dogshit
Like PoW? 
I still can't comprehend why would she need a fucking uss fleet for that buff
well PoW might get a kai in the future 
If kgv didn't need 3 other HMS ships for buff u would run her with amagi anyway 

I guess if they yeet VG quickly 
They need yeet enemy main, not vg. VG dogfifhting is for that
and yr cv
shots on vg is waste mostly
Cent works best yeeting enemy main
My cent deletes loli/amagi with 1 airstrike with level disadvantage
if Cent aims at VG you get torps just going fucking everywhere
even ryuu can do that
I guess you can use cudas but 
What are you even saying lmao
tho when ryuusei get's horizontal (vertical) hit it works decent on vg
but that's like 1/5
well lets wait if they will make a "lock on" torpedo bombers 
wasda 
600k till juneau 120 

with new gears washi damage actually noticably boosted
Still lacking acc tho, 120 hit/miss is so crap
Need USS acc buff

When Sodako procs double damage but only 2-3 shells actually not Miss from whole 3 salvoes

but enemy wasd rarely miss on my ships 
ofc
When i fight Namagi they miss a lot
literally 2-3 shots from whole salvo
sometimes even washi barrage only lands 2-3 hits
otherwise it hits for 970+ damage
they seem to hit my 120 ships fine
per shell
maybe just rng idk
no wonder she gets mvp over amagi even

But Amagi without fast load buff isn't that great on damage too
ive even seen enty dodge 2-3 shells in a row without amagi alive 

CV has decent eva anyway
more than 2 SG bcs/bbs
so
But if u catch enty off time she is frail
frail only if rng dont cuck u

and washi barrage not helping
there some weird timing happen

Saving for tomorrow i guess...
Birm is useless trashboat

Sagi, how many staags do you have
1

so with the new ships, does the meta change at all or is it still going to be nagato amagi hiryuu + ykkz juneau belfast
same afaik
Meta only gets stronger 
neat
Wait till Azuma
less work for me
so meta doesnt really shift till warkai / PR2?
or does war kai not even affect the top ijn team

ws foxes is legit team for example
wskai
wskai just deliver us from meta
wskai + anything decent is fine
(till Azuma and FdG)


nice
well, ofc
Azuma and fdg are same as wskai
put wherever
They kill w/ thiccness 
like really thicc
lmao
"thicc cruiser"

Azuma sole presence on field makes her already OP
A 4 main fleet



Well, all shiyo characters are basically reworked assets
some are way too similar

NC looks the best imo
More like chokekai

might just waste a ring to complete the 4 heavenly queens set and soon to be five with azuma zzz


IT is mayag
face is different

same shitty weird proprotions face as Aurora
I hate him, lol
i believe mayag is a lady
whatever
Hire raita 
Buki default skin face and Aurora make me cringe
impossible balance of butt breast hips
when is maint again
next daily reset?
im not done with event yet
havent even done sp once
thursday post reset
we are back to thursday maints
from now on
all current events/minievents last till Wednesdays 23:59
up to September
add coin and oils to the merit shop 
and cubes
on regular basis
not 1 a week
would totally buy 100 cubes for my 200k merits

hint hint of DC rerun ?
no
It might be, DC rerun after anni
Especially since JP and CN are archiving that event
Well, it's a bit too soon for rerun
If anything, we need to get FV rerun 1st
IF we even get one, considering we got rerun ver
Ehh, anni runs until end of August, September run of DC rerun isn't too early, 9 months after initial run is pretty average I think
VDiR reran after just over half a year, for a comparison
More likely we get new global event
Actually compared to JP, we are behind on DC rerun timing
JP got OC in December then OC rerun June
That's just art anyway
So by that schedule we're behind on DC rerun by 2 months already
mostly due to new global events ofc
mostly due to ppl whine about they need break since after 1st event on EN

so they began to do bigger gaps
even made few days rerun for PoW event
tbf CN took 10 months to rerun OC
So by that schedule it'll be October for us
Also still no Mikasa 
Achilles retro and her are #foreverforgotten
I still keep achiless dupe
well, remember kagerous got her retro skills leaked since Autumn

I'd like me those z1 and leip retro
Well, looks like no dorm rerun, we get new one
Also that Summer dorm is perma on CN/JP idk
Any1 on Sandy around ~180? Would like to know score in that range 
Doubt this will give me +1


i'm far higher 
Ohboi, Avrora minievent
Well, i got +1 from 177 
I'm still more than dozen behind xy anyway so this season is ded for me
it's all about Thursday update anyway 

Well, same time as JP
they got Avrora minievent for 1st anni
Also CBT ppl already have Avrora
I only started playing after EU release 
Getting a bunch of dead reset 
Dead is not thorough description for this dismaying, depressing, dejected thing...
I am now turning the casual flag on until something interesting happens to the PvP. I'm focusing my resources to some other games until then 
Nanoda being bad doge again 
first time as rank 1, i hope i finish in the top 100 this season
I see a 0/10 tho ๐
17 min after reset
If u want to be top 100 end season, u better not rush top1 anywhere before second week weekend 
normal 
0/10 #1 
I pushed too early and lost a potential +2
meh, worth it
70 is not a secured +2 right ?
I missed another 3 exercises cause I was in a meeting 
ill be happy to finish this season in the top 100 or something
but I gave up on this season days ago so 
I should've given up this season too for that AppStore update
but I had such a good start lmao
yeah I forgot some during the first couple days cause I played minecraft until 4am and missed reset
which server are you in ? @fathom phoenix
I will laugh if appstore actually will be delayed due to passing appstore authorisation check
avrora
thank u for your service, rusher

โค
you were fodder all along

at least i got to sit in the seat, thats all i wanted
tru
If you were on Sandy maybe you could've been top100 EoS 
also true
it was the first time i had ever been #1 at something, even if it was just for 30 seconds
no memes, love my lolis
I jsut saw POI
ibuki keeps getting mvp
sitting here with a 1672 10/10
now I learned that Makanpizza does his tickets the last 15 min
1575 

We need "rushers spreadsheet"
8 missed tix

thats a good idea
yeah
Umu~
one for Sandy 
sandy pvp 

I know a dude
Leave Sandy rot in peace
his IGN is Haloist
F

I'll let you hang in there


I mean I'll probably eat at least 1 +8
Eh it was not as bad for me
I rushed 5 tix few hrs before reset yesterdauy
and i still was rather high
But i'm more than dozen behind 

are we getting a last moment twitt like always
how

Well
I've never fallen below 500 cubes
^
also this is probably the last season I'll be able to sandbag like this
If im gonna use all my tickets
There no point
It's waifu collector 
I get what I want/tier 0 and move on
There's not enough time to tend to all your waifus
If it's 10hrs then I'll rush all my attack, 8hrs sandbag 
Some of them will inevitably sit in your dock at lvl 1
u get all of em to 70 mlb at least for fleet tech
why do you have a level 1 ship
I guess I am too lazy to click
my jupiter is level 1 for now
I just use reccomend
lmao
imagine being lazy
I can't even grind events anymore
I am probably not going to reach 40k
dailies and sp
I haven't in a few events
It's nt worth this time anyway
I got 1 french gun
i farmed 1 too...
I started in Jan





Well, iplay RO so?
I fucking owned runescape
yeah
early 2000s
Well, EN was closer to mid 2000s
there were a lot of games launched in early 2000s
not sure y but im noticing a significant increase in winrate when i changed my amagi position from bottom to top
maybe its cuz all my vg ships just got 1 lvl higher but idk if dat makes so much of a diff
Maybe because now enemy ryuus are laned w/ yr Amagi 
no man i specifically tested without moving amagi at all even if its not opposite hiryuu
cause u should do it manually before battle if u want winrate
result still better than those times previously when i swapped
ik it makes 0 sense and maybe its just rng but still lul
or really that +1

forgot to mention all gear was same except for my 2nd staag
still no 2nd nepgun or rudder 

when ibuki ready probably
sry im meta chaser
mamagi
if i get 2nd rudder it goes on lolito
amagi is sg hsfcr or double sg
yea i noticed my amagi dies too soon usually
annoying af cuz her buffs/debuffs disappear
now she mostly lasts till end of match
if u don't put her against heavy armor barrager, i don;t how she dies fast on offense
weird shit but happens more than u think
well, i use her too
and even without naga buffs

even vs foxes she doesn't have problems
but naga dont buff defense
well, naga helps her kill opponent faster
either way she has low luck and i will
if she dies
ded opponent = less threat
cant kill opponent faster without gud rng tho

u start losing in procs ur main fleet prob gets destroyed first
well, u only lose if u get 3 nagato barrages into face
and that is if ryuu procs early only
happens a lot cuz ryuu only 117 
well
spartan 117
its funny cuz even when ryuu not opposite amagi she can sometimes still get nuked before namagi
like 70% 
so much wrong with rng in dis game
so i decide to fite fire with fire
rudder for more evade rng beeetch
has worked so far so 
btw my jupiter is still in mail cuz lul dock space
o.o
and those 20+ purins...
crazy
warspite 118 from comm/dorm
she'll be ready

give it another month should hit 120 passively
whenever we get kai
probably 3 months?
or never just to troll en pvp
xD
Nah they just gonna release some new ijn boat that makes hms more irrelevant
wskai should be half year after sandykai?
oof
ijn warlover 
Hey we already have second Amagi
at least bb kaga is ok
or just use alterprise
70% chance when launching airstrike to remove invulnerability
Nah use ember plz
the real owarida
Ijn bias
xD
Always nerf uss

i think narratively it'd be more interesting for the adopted sister to avenge her fallen family ;)

xD


(there was a new chapter on manga dex =P)

of parker's al doujin of super sadness


Parkerโs manga is an edgy yuri manga where all ships are literally fighting over female shkk. Tumblr tier fanfiction
Mmmm, yuri
Seems like a 6 hour maint for jp
Well thats awkward i fought to use my last attack
famine's already 1734 10/10
I'm only 1721 
it's okay
you'll just get a casual 2590+ instead of 2600+ 
demn internet here , just dc in the middle of pvp and miss 1 , connection return after 15mins how sweet 
oof
Wait DC on Jp is permanent
Yes
so uh... 08/15 14:00-20:00 is it safe ? 
6 hrs is safe , 8 hrs is manageable
but when its 10 hrs = oh boiii
"inserts panic on sandbaggers "
I find it best to just use everything before maintenance just in case.
Losing a few points to missed sandbagging is insignificant compared to losing 50+ to missed exercises.
I rather gamble my season than eat a few +9's 
Even with -50 probably still get top 10 end session
is this fleet good for a beginner pvp thingy
oh yeah, pvp is also kinda not always hanged out by people.
anyway, that fleet is kinda bad tbh
in beginner level, you should just focus using your highest level boat tbh
just try to scrape some victories
You shouldnt be worried for pvp in the begginning
Just lvl up good pve boats for now
You can also look at the pins to see what boats are commonly used in pvp
But most of them are gated by events
should add a section for newbie like enty + helena reset to scrap some win for new player 
Probably a non event boat tab
non event
u might as well follow
discount hms
need to build monarch asap tho
ykkz is event only so maybe use

fortune?



just put 3 CA's on VG problem solved ๐
yea
also cant throw my belfast out when 50% of the def I face is still nakaga
like wtf
I'm seeing more namagi players now than nakaga
not maxed namagi, but enough for me to switch in sanrui
lvl 120 fletcher squad on pvp when
I want them reppu bps. got enough ryuusei bps to make 2 rn 
Also can I stop getting 100mm 105mm AA gun bps

hey were in the same boat lad i have 80 prints of them
I would really like to get my 3rd stagg, not 3rd 100mm 
xD
snoop dog gonna be dissapointed on u
u will aint smoke weed anymore if u replace belfap
i also want magnetic torPEDO's print , gold t4 boxes are scams
dd mle in pr bps plz
i did farm when i had time lol
maybe u was just unlucky with drop
i only use one rn for juneau 
5 free cubes for the guy who wants birm 

I spent my 6 cubes before mail (including 2 i got for clearing 12-4 yesterday), then i found 1 in merit shop + 5 in mail
if u still dont get her then she prob got lost in the birmuda triangle 
i am mou shindeiru


fuck got 2 bonus in a row


lol wtf with those maint notes
looks like just last page
Inb4 we get actual 1 week break from builds 
Depends on yr download speed 
jp said 6 hrs
and 1.7 GB
inb4 yostar servers get cucked by load and we get 300 kb/s

1796 8/10

its not yostar servers anyways
its google servers that theyll use
should be fine
the problem is their
potato programming
gotta splatter spag sauce everywhere
make it nasty
KGV users what gun do you use on her ?
her gun ofc 
isn't mk6 better for long runs 
u lose critrate
and it's basically to y33t vg with early shot
also equipping her gun enhances barrage, but barrage is whatever

im still sitting here with 24/25 2nd Nepgun 
Need 4 more staags. Their drop rate is so low
Well, we get focused for 100mm, but not for staag lmao
PR2 has no focused gear at all from what i seen
well, RNG is RNG
I do only no coin/cubes ones
I kinda wanna know, how bad is my pvp fleet?
Figured I'd check
Well it loses to any of the meta i think?
lvls and undergear aside it's kinda bad
jb can yeet vg if u lucky but dats about it
thats not so bad actually but you need to level them first and put proper gears
you can check the tierlist in pins for meta comps
thanks
I can't really follow most of those since I don't have many event ships sadly, is there any character in particular I should replace?
monty portland jb
And that bitch on top in vg
only real replacement for hood is monarch and amagi
if you have those then sure otherwise dont bother
isnt JB pretty good for one shotting VG?
but she misses horribly all the time
if she hits yea but ppl who tested her says shes not that reliable
No, her second two shots are falling in the same spot as the first ones. And since vgs are moving fast as fuck, it's kinda random
Her gun in the 1st place makes u miss at least half barrage vs moving vg
and thats where biggu sebun is OP
I see, whats a good non event one to replace her with?
What event ships u have from list?
Uhh, yeah, welcome to hms club, buddy

Also, this is where qe might be a good starter bb for him ๐
I do have centaur (and QE, of course), that works
Yukie?
no, sadly
I assume no Amagi nagto too
lul
first major event I was in was iris
ok
was kgv before iris? i forgot
yes
yup
You are in cancer club tho, stop talking 
rip
Combination of QE/Cent/Monarch/Hood, tho hood falls off at 120
like your non 120 will ever be able to fare against 120 bb
Actually, he might go with ws cent/qe mon just allright

qe cent mona
you forgot neptune sama
ye
I cant get neptune, sanrui and monarch all dev'd at the same time ๐
pepega
Getting Aurora from light build can let u do fine without PRs
she's in event build right?
no
aurora is in light hell
Aurora is permanent
and shes elite
(i spent over 800 cubes for her)
got her from wishing well

















