pvp

[sharp wing]

elite retro

[vague token]

she still has really high base hp before that

[sharp wing]

inb4 Yamato CV

[jovial sedge]

I was ignored

[lament lichen]

Well sara was a bc converted to cv lol

[sharp wing]

Taihoe is still beefiest w/ her 2nd highest HP and HEavy armor

and def skill

[jovial sedge]

T_T

[sharp wing]

Many CVs are converted

look at IJN cvs

Kaga, Akagi etc.

[vague token]

essex wont do anything

because we skipped nakaga

and went straight to namaryuu

so

[lament lichen]

Amagi happened

[sharp wing]

Poor Amagi

[jovial sedge]

Sooo no pls

Nooo

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

ill be running amagi/essex/sara though

[sharp wing]

I'll put taihoe

[vague token]

with juneau/sirius/baltimore

for double air power buff

[jovial sedge]

What abou my murican fleet? It was all pointless there is no hope?

[vague token]

it really is all pointless

and there is no hope

the ijn bias

is too strong

[lament lichen]

Uss sucks

[sharp wing]

I run wasd

[vague token]

kms, royal, eagle, all big rip

maybe pasta faction will be op

xD

[lament lichen]

Ijn does all better

[jovial sedge]

God why... u hate us som much im no fotm WHORE

[vague token]

i mean

they dont hate specifically eagle

they just love ijn

no one is hated

xD

[sharp wing]

ijn is just only asian faction atm , that actually had fleet in ww2

[jovial sedge]

-_- is not even properly right ijn ships were not better than muricans

[sharp wing]

cn had no fleet to speak of

some russian destroyers

[vague token]

too bad when they add pasta fleet

lusty wont have any attack skills to spook them with

despite the irl history of lusty destroying them

repeatedly

[sharp wing]

Muricans ships were not better, than IJN, they just were mass produced, while ijn was limited ine verything shipbuilding related

[lament lichen]

Lusty retro is where they would slap more skills on her

[jovial sedge]

Hmm so alternativen.. is hms? That could work i just dont want to go fukk fotm whore on this

[sharp wing]

ijn literally could not build ships

[steep fog]

its only for pvp

USS is great in pve

[vague token]

i mean radar was a big plus for eagles

[sharp wing]

hms getting good in pve too

[vague token]

that the admirals didnt use xD

[jovial sedge]

Meh

[vague token]

rip no trust

in dat new fangled tech

[jovial sedge]

I want to do good in pvp its just sad watching them loose

[vague token]

i mean eagle and hms can win

[lament lichen]

Its called reseting to win

[sharp wing]

If you want to do good in pvp, embrace IJN

[vague token]

you just gotta burn more resets

i can win with biscuit/amagi/sara

sometimes you get bad rng

[sharp wing]

I bet foxes hood will do better, than most other nations

[jovial sedge]

Well cant tell for sure cos im not 120 on ships but fought that top kek meta bullshit and they just didnt have dmg to get trough amagu and yuku

[lament lichen]

Your dam problem is lvls

[vague token]

if you arent 120 you're gonna be lacking on damage

and hit rate

and you're going to take more damage

[jovial sedge]

🤔

[vague token]

and evade less

[sharp wing]

I can tell you more, 120 wasd needs to reset vs namayuu sometimes

It's all about stupid evade at 120

all yr triple salvos miss

[jovial sedge]

I even obce beat that topkek team but guess they had not perfect gear or what

[sharp wing]

and you have not enough barrages

120 relies on barrages and suicide damage

[jovial sedge]

Hmm guess must lvl up my muricans

[sharp wing]

well, and some ryusseis

[vague token]

xD

[steep fog]

sometimes I meet an amagi thats fucking tanky

[jovial sedge]

Sodako E and helena

[steep fog]

[vague token]

amagi with rudder/radar is tanky

[sharp wing]

|It's all rng

[vague token]

sometimes amagi's 10% evade rate buff says

nope

[sharp wing]

120 is very rng heavy in hit/miss

[vague token]

and you lose

sometimes nagato big sevens 3 times in the match

and you lose

[sharp wing]

It's jsut so dumb

[vague token]

[jovial sedge]

Well when i lost to thst perfect kek team nagato was just spamming her shit all day

[vague token]

that's why i say all skills should be 100%, with power dropped based on how much chance it takes to make it 100%

[sharp wing]

at 110 it was much less rng hit

[vague token]

no more rng ;)

[sharp wing]

If you make 100% skills, you gonna totally murder pvp, u know right?

[vague token]

with a power DROP

based on the chance boost

[sharp wing]

doesn't matter

[vague token]

40% to 100% would be like a huge drop

[steep fog]

my namayuu not all 120 yet

need rng to win

[vague token]

invuln skills would no longer invuln (aka from 100% reduced a bit to a lower value)

[jovial sedge]

But lvling.is so slow need to farm so much

:( 110-120 is forever

[sharp wing]

put in dorm for 2 weeks

and grind a bit

[jovial sedge]

I got in dorm but guess u mean leaving only 1 ship there

Not 5 like i do

[vague token]

more people in dorm is same xp rate

you just eat more food

[jovial sedge]

Hmm dont think so

In help channel it was discussed

Less ships more xp

[ionic magnet]

yea less exp per hr per ship as you add more ships

[steep fog]

less ship = more xp rate per ship

less total exp rate

[ionic magnet]

but if you add total exp of all ships, its still better to just put 5 ships in dorm

[steep fog]

im not even playing nowadays just doing oil comm

[jovial sedge]

Well im.slowly getting there to enty 117 helena 115 mr. president 115 sodako 113

[steep fog]

my helena is 113

im dorming her to 120

[vague token]

oh huh, you go from 2.9k on one to 2.3k on two

[steep fog]

too lazy to grind

[vague token]

yeah there is no reason to use one

[trim horizon]

[jovial sedge]

Already 98i dont even got that ship yet

Ehmbshould havebgone farming but dont care about porttaits and shi

[steep fog]

noone flexing portrait yet?

♿

my merit dipped to 50k

bought 5 purins

[coral wren]

Tbh i stopped caring about it

I dont have enough purins

And ill need a lot of gold for anniv

[sharp wing]

dorm is either 1 ship or max, otherwise total exp/food wasted

better just max

that was the consensus i think

half ships is nowhere near optimal anyway

And don't worry about portrait, it's extended to 28th anyway

I just had Bel mvp with 21k

[steep fog]

wtf

how

[sharp wing]

should SS

[steep fog]

all torp hit?

[sharp wing]

torp main

she rarely goes below 13k anyway

usually most vg dps

Yukie get's close with torping main fleet

but she just don't do any damage to vg after opening torps

Bel reliably use her gun

[steep fog]

just got another bofors

up to 8 bofors now pepega

[sharp wing]

I got 6 113

7 bofors

I don't even need as much bofors on regular basis

esp after staag

[steep fog]

well

[sharp wing]

i even use pompoms on few ships

[steep fog]

actually im ditching ufo in pve

for pompoms

[sharp wing]

i use pompoms on Yat and such stuff

[steep fog]

for light fleet im running full bofors

like 2:1

[sharp wing]

tho bofors gives better damage to fr ratio

[steep fog]

if 3:3 im running 1pompom on AA carry and the rest bofors

ufo sometimes fuck up tick rate

[sharp wing]

pompom only when eff 150+ and high reload

then reload less impactful and extra damage matters more

or just high aa stat

comparted 2 ships, on higher reload one, difference between pompom and bofors FR droped by .01

[stark raft]

I just bring vestal/isuzu etc now instead of caring bout AA

[sharp wing]

high aa dds can make use of it

vestal is unneeded oil

isuzu has 0 surface dps

[stark raft]

w12

[sharp wing]

isuzu w12 is like running Junie in surface dps

[stark raft]

all the surface dps you need is hood

[sharp wing]

what when u have maxed hood

and don't want waste yr time with her anymore

[steep fog]

then u run sara kai

[sharp wing]

also hood doesn't really cover map well

[steep fog]

nah shes good enough in w12

[sharp wing]

with vestal u can run Amagi at that point

[steep fog]

I run 3:1 with cent shouhou vestal and sandy

[sharp wing]

2:1

[steep fog]

sandy nearly ded

no BB makes ramming insane

[sharp wing]

If i run 2 cvs, that's only to give exp buff

on top of flag and maybe mvp

Houshou should have gun/plane slot instead of gun only slot

even CL gun w/ 0 fp is useless

Langley should have her gun slot made gun/plane too after LB

She can equip DD gun only at LB0

[coral wren]

Greetings fellow admirals

Is there a way to defeat the nagato fleet?

[finite valve]

read pins

[coral wren]

[midnight heron]

use full kizuna fleet

[coral wren]

Hms is your choice

[trim horizon]

Reset

[elder crane]

HMS if you're missing otherwise-needed event ships, yeah

[coral wren]

Surprisingly, centaur with ryusei is just raping nagato full nanking style

Cuz whenever I'm on my way to 1k there's nagato and she's everywhere

[steep fog]

thats not an appropriate joke

[finite valve]

cancer only a problem if you are newbie

most ppl here just meme vs cancer

[coral wren]

What?

Are you resetting your matches?

[elder crane]

Just have to reset more often if you run a subpar (meme if purposefully so) fleet

[steep fog]

just run the mirror

[coral wren]

No I don't

[steep fog]

ez

embrace the darkness

[coral wren]

Oof

[elder crane]

Running Mirror is ~90% winrate even vs the best though, yeah
So if you can build it, it's the "best" team

[coral wren]

When you are gonna lose, just leave the match

But why?

[steep fog]

reset till your nagato proc more

[elder crane]

Pause -> leave
0 penalty

[coral wren]

You wont lose your attempt when resetting

[steep fog]

the comp is so rng that u can win even if u are weaker

[elder crane]

you mean, reset if their Nagato procs twice and yours is sleeping

[coral wren]

How do you resetting?

Isn't that a refresh?

[elder crane]

Either:
Pause->leave
Disconnect
Exit app
Do it before result is recorded on server and it's 0 penalty

[steep fog]

pause and quit when u are about to lose

[coral wren]

He just told you, you pause your match and then quit

Ohh

I didn't know that sorry

Or kill the app

[elder crane]

Yeah, resetting is why PvP is generally considered a meme

[steep fog]

does kill ap work if I press pause too late

[elder crane]

As long as a team can win, you can reset to a win

Yes, as long as server-side result is not recorded

[steep fog]

wow nice trick

[elder crane]

So basically until the MVP endcard appears, you can still reset by killing app/ turning off internet

[coral wren]

Gotta ask if you're gonna fight with these kind of fleet should I use more Anti-air?

[steep fog]

oh rly thats a godsend

[elder crane]

also you can disconnect while PvP is running and reconnect if you win

[coral wren]

[steep fog]

u use belfast

[elder crane]

Belfast and Hiryuu both counter foxes fairly well
A strong enough team also counters it
Vanguard having Yukikaze and Juneau is just really good in general for stalling and grinding matches, and is particularly so vs foxes since they rely on the initial damage burst

[coral wren]

she protecc, she attak

[finite valve]

what's your pvp comp anyway?

[coral wren]

I'm eating my tie if it's full kizuna meme

[steep fog]

Im gonna run taihou in pvp when I get her

[finite valve]

might work vs non hiryuu kai

dk about kai tho

[coral wren]

phoenix

[finite valve]

not even nep

useless

[elder crane]

Idk if taihou is better than just running Baga
iirc before people settled on Hiryuu, Baga was used over Taihou

[coral wren]

baga stands for ?

[elder crane]

Battleship Kaga

Baga, or Baka

[coral wren]

Aighty. I remember ppl were using her before hiryuu, and she was giving more troubles than hiryuu for shitty qe hms comp

[elder crane]

It loses more to Hiryuu though than mirror comp

for offense it's mostly just worse, winrate-wise

[coral wren]

@coral wren what's your pvp setup?

[elder crane]

Baka outdamages Amagi by ~10-20% or so if both proc barrages equally
But 50% vs 70% proc chance
And Amagi also has defensive skills

In the matches that matter (really close ones) Hiryuu almost always takes MVP over Amagi
And Hiryuu provides stall

Is my overall opinion on the comparison

Baka makes for faster matches though, overall

[coral wren]

@coral wren

Oh, well i guess it's just you're underleveled then. Should deal with nagato once you are equal

Thanks I'll grind more

[finite valve]

doubt he going to win vs cancer with that comp

unless both enty and helena proc

[steep fog]

laffey in pvp

[finite valve]

even then it only work if he nuke both ykk and jesus in 1 go

[steep fog]

aint that comp need jesus

[empty sinew]

this is so nostalgic

[finite valve]

also the position is wrong

SD should be mid wash bot

laffey mid helena top belfap bot

unless you going to farm jesus to 120 just reset a lot vs cancer

[coral wren]

Well, he lsot to nagato with foxes, so i thought it will be fine against them. But vs cancer not so sure

[wicked rivet]

good luck

yaint gonna win vs cancer with that comp

[coral wren]

Cmon, i won with shitty qe based underleveled hms back in time after 33+ resets

[wicked rivet]

[steep fog]

30 reset

thats nuts

[coral wren]

Yeah, it was bonkers

Nah with the power of friendship I'll win if enty and Helena skill proc if not GG but at least I tried

Also, one time against your cancer it took something around 10 resets, alex

But i think it was before 120cap implemented

[steep fog]

but my cancer isnt even maxed

[coral wren]

Ye, that's why i said before they implemented 120 cap

[steep fog]

my jesus still not even 115 yet

hiryuu at 115 too

[coral wren]

Hood was shitting in my stew all day long

[wicked rivet]

ive been beating 120 hiryuu's first try latey

[coral wren]

33+ resets was against cancer with baka, because qe+hood=get keked against heavy armor

[wicked rivet]

altho its been close

so I know as soon as I do a battle and afk im gonnna lose

also do I rlly have to beat both siren strongholds in sP

[steep fog]

yes

[wicked rivet]

fuck

[steep fog]

just make 2 boss fleets

with 120 power

[coral wren]

I was waiting for you or kharnie to max their cancers, but none of you did to test my fleet Once monarch dev 30, along with cent and kgv+aur, you just steamrolling through the ladder

[steep fog]

doing cube research b4 taihou

[wicked rivet]

welp ibuki yeets the siren so fast I didnt take any damage

okay then

deployed ships >8 for a star

okay

[coral wren]

Once ws kai is here, i wonder who to bench, kgv or cent

[wicked rivet]

who else u using?

[coral wren]

monarch

[wicked rivet]

momarch?

probly cent?

[steep fog]

bench monarch

[trim horizon]

is Centaur in Essex banner ?

[coral wren]

Well, i'm not sure. Prob will take some testing here and there, but probably her, yeah. bbs are too stronk right now

[steep fog]

maybe/maybe not

[trim horizon]

[wicked rivet]

ironic that irl BBs got rekt by carriers and in AL carriers suck vs them

[coral wren]

There should be a rework or dmg increase for all cvs/cvls

[steep fog]

[wicked rivet]

[steep fog]

then its gonna be CV lane

[wicked rivet]

yikes

[steep fog]

like KC

[wicked rivet]

I'd rather not

[steep fog]

well at least make them launch faster

current cd is pepega

[wicked rivet]

true

[coral wren]

Make all double dmg skills have 70% for cvs to proc

Actually, what is kc pvp right now?

If they do have it

[finite valve]

kc pvp = exp source farm

also if you want to consider 175 all waifu ship as meta

prop to you?

[hot creek]

KC's excercises are just that, an exp farm. KC's actual "pvp" is monthly HQ farming. Basically whoever can no life farm one map with the most economical ships for top 500/100/20/5. But you can actually get good rewards from it unlike AL.

[coral wren]

Oh man, taihou's va is such a miscast

[trim horizon]

agree

[midnight heron]

da hoe

[hot creek]

I think she pulls off the yandere vibe well despite being a bit unexpectedly high pitch.

it matches her in the end.

[coral wren]

High pitch ruins it, imo. It's like a body swap between a real taihou and some destroyer

[steep fog]

its the typical nutty anime voice char

totally normal

[buoyant parrot]

omg... taihou... my pipi just went nuts

[coral wren]

Because of her visuals? Or her lines?

[vague token]

oh wow she is a lot higher pitch than i thought

[midnight heron]

not my type lul

[vague token]

i was expecting the ara ara

[trim horizon]

[steep fog]

shes never the ara type lol

[vague token]

big yikes

[coral wren]

The only ara ara is lusty and hood

[steep fog]

best ara is fusou naked sweater skin

[trim horizon]

10 hrs MT for Anni ?

[steep fog]

wot

[coral wren]

But it's kinda an eternal formula, artist draws an ideal female body with big tiddies and then you can push whatever shit you want with that.

[lament lichen]

[vague token]

eh there's too big though

only can handle so much plot before it puts too much strain on the back

;)

[steep fog]

u mean b4 it sags

[coral wren]

delet

[steep fog]

I only state the fact

[hot creek]

10 hrs? you know what that means, rush to 0/10

[steep fog]

lads are u ready for taihou

how cube dry are u guys

[midnight heron]

neveready till i get balti

[steep fog]

still no balti

[lament lichen]

Back to back events

[vague token]

i just got back over 100 cubes

but im only here for essex so anyone else is a bonus

[coral wren]

30 cubes

[trim horizon]

28

[coral wren]

still no alabama and birm

[trim horizon]

[steep fog]

rip

[shell heron]

my cubes are ready. but my gold never is

[steep fog]

just do 2x long comm daily

[shell heron]

1300 cubes ready to go

[steep fog]

and freebie research

[shell heron]

was 1300, 1295 now because of 30m research

[steep fog]

if I have 1k cubes I will just spam cube research till 500

[vague token]

xD

i hope they wait 2 weeks before dumping sandy kai on us too

that way i have gold recovery time

[shell heron]

but 10hr maintenance, gamble on finishing on time or rish another 12hr

[steep fog]

dw

u will have 1week for 60k gold

[vague token]

ill be using all matches

[steep fog]

which is ez

[vague token]

true

i havent been using a lot of oil since everything is 3 star

just do a few c2s for points

xD

[steep fog]

im letting my oil regen back to cap

with 2x oil comm daily

and nothing else

[hot creek]

the last time it was 10 hrs, I did all my matches and I was right to do so.

automatic r1 that season

[steep fog]

next maint is howlong?

[shell heron]

last time was also UI overhaul

[steep fog]

this time its not overhaul tho

its just resetting gems

[trim horizon]

[hot creek]

True. Still gonna do it though.

[ionic magnet]

I'll sandbag til the end and never look back

[shell heron]

never stop sandbagging

[trim horizon]

btw who can benefit from using both ShS and T1 AP ? If there is any

[shell heron]

ShS, T1 AP?

[trim horizon]

super heavy/type 1 ap shell

[shell heron]

yea, I just never called them by their proper name

or bothered remembering them

[finite valve]

any ship with skill that affect / increase dmg from main gun shelling

[elder crane]

Bis for Type 1 AP
SHS on basically no one in PvP

[shell heron]

Bis in PvP

[vague token]

white shell is pretty good for biscuit

[finite valve]

tirpitz cats and tigers sister also work

[wicked rivet]

Tirp with the 70% boost after bisquick dies is insanse

Fought a kms backline yesterday and she almost took out a 75% amagi in one shelling

But she was the last one left and I had all 3 so

[vague token]

lel

[shell heron]

Bis's buff is still active after she dies?

[wicked rivet]

Yes

70% dmg boost for tirp after bis dies

[vague token]

the carrier damage one might not

[wicked rivet]

Dont think it does

[vague token]

cause it's on the red skill

[wicked rivet]

Graf zep's doesnt

[vague token]

not the yellow

[shell heron]

I was wondering if it's acts similar to QE buff

[vague token]

[coral wren]

White shell for kgv

[sharp wing]

wow, 11 hrs of ded list

[stark raft]

I slept on 9 tickets

new record

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

wow, u probably even beat me

I have only -1 yet

[midnight heron]

just realised its only possible if u slept for >12hrs

[sharp wing]

nt really

[stark raft]

987 8/10 lmao

[midnight heron]

missed 9 ticks bruh

[sharp wing]

1047 9/10

[stark raft]

nah I woke up to a dead list and decided to sleep

I trusted my alarms too much

[sharp wing]

happens t me

[midnight heron]

well it sure is alarming

[sharp wing]

that's how i lost 4 tix last season

Woke up, did 1 match w/ bonus, went back to bed

[stark raft]

yeah

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

awwww shit time to relax for anniv i guess

[sharp wing]

EU time is bitch

Make Sandy GMT server

I still don't have damn Birm

My cubes are not endless

[midnight heron]

she scared of u

just like balti scared of me

[sharp wing]

I will make her real scared when i catch her

[stark raft]

my daily pulls are only 3 birm 2 alabama

[sharp wing]

She will plead on her knees

[stark raft]

no balti

[midnight heron]

btw i watched someone attempt ex with dis

imagine my face

[sharp wing]

I haven't even tried ex

Is it regular auto w/ junie?

[midnight heron]

ofc not

[sharp wing]

why ofc

[midnight heron]

junie wud just teleport behind her

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

im not gonna bother anyway lul

dont even hav 120 backline except namagi

[sharp wing]

I might give it a try, not tryhard for top anyway

well, namagi all u need

[midnight heron]

and need tanky frontline

[sharp wing]

pvp frontline

[midnight heron]

pretty impossible to dodge everything

gtg anyway hope i dont on pvp lul

[sharp wing]

lol, OklaKai beats Nagato in aux eff

damn retro gets double aux eff instead of MG

[vague token]

dont forget all the bb retros get lots of hit

[sharp wing]

okla/nevada get 0

[vague token]

what, they get 15

[sharp wing]

ah, only modern node

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

+10

[vague token]

weird, nevada's page says 68 no retro to 83 with retro

[sharp wing]

modern +aa and + acc

68>78

[vague token]

uh, wiki is off?

cause it clearly shows 15

[sharp wing]

it is on

which wiki?

[vague token]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Nevada#Level_120_Retrofit_

[sharp wing]

en wiki shoews 10

[vague token]

at the bottom, modernization +15

[sharp wing]

lookingat okla, is nevada diff?

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

oh

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

yeah, nevada 15

okla 10

[vague token]

ise is also 15

[sharp wing]

also nevada has high luck and Okla poo

[vague token]

hyuuga only shows 10

but it says 87

on her stat table

so i dont even

[sharp wing]

Hyuu has acc node

pre modern

[vague token]

that's +5

only 1 level

[sharp wing]

same as ise

[vague token]

how the heck does it go from 70 to 87

?_?

wiki why

[sharp wing]

Still Okla > Nevada

[vague token]

oklahoma seems more cheery, nevada has a more stoic/confident type art

[sharp wing]

Okla is as annoying as Karls

But in a good way somewhat

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

Why we still don't have Hit stat in game tab

[vague token]

because ui 2.0 wait..

[sharp wing]

how they get +17 acc

[vague token]

i dont know

they only have +5 hit

on their retro

unless bbv has a different base table

[sharp wing]

probably bbv modernization adds more, but it's not stated

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

cause no UI stat

dege

[vague token]

lemme check yama/fusou

66->77

nani

[sharp wing]

xD

[vague token]

wait

no hit node

[sharp wing]

yeah, just +11 from modern

[vague token]

bbv adds 11

[sharp wing]

ISe/Hyuu get +12

[vague token]

reee

[sharp wing]

lol

cause +17 total

and 5 node

class dependent too, lol

[vague token]

they really dont like fusou/yama, worse modernization and stats xD

or maybe ise/hyuuga power creeped them

either or

[sharp wing]

gotta check their tech lvls

in fleet pwoer

Yeah, Ise/Hyuu one tech lvl above

[vague token]

yeah t4 vs t5

[sharp wing]

thus better stat

[vague token]

but it's like

[sharp wing]

At least it is legit

[vague token]

a HUGE amount

xD

73 less aviation lel

[sharp wing]

well, look at their retro bonuses

they are different

[vague token]

yeah =/

[sharp wing]

i mean >bbv

stat diff is severe

ise barely get any -

and much more avi

[vague token]

big rip

[sharp wing]

I'm sad Nevada has much better stats to Okla

[vague token]

you were supposed to bring balance to the ships, retro, not destroy them!

xD

[sharp wing]

spite page is bugfest

hmm, in other browser fine

another 10x no birm

[vague token]

cursed

you must have offended yostar somehow so they said no elites for you

;)

[fierce field]

why are you still burning cube when Essex is in the corner

[vague token]

i just have to LB san juan now

but she needs levels first

xD

[waxen dawn]

Fml

[sharp wing]

tbh essex is skippable, cause we will also have even with her

[finite valve]

pray that you are not on raven lvl of bad luck

1.2k cubes no essex

[hot creek]

I just realize Taihou is Lysithea's JP voice

[vague token]

oh huh, i only played in english xD

[hot creek]

Yeah I only played on english but I went back and viewed support convos in JP for her cause waifu

[vague token]

ah i see you're a man of culture as well

[vague token]

oh boi 2nd rudder

[fierce field]

[shell heron]

1.2k cubes no essex eh. Good thing I have 1.3k cubes

And wish i have a 2nd rudder rn. These last 4 bps will be painful

[vague token]

oof

i think ive been sitting in the 20s for a while

i got like 10-15 staag bps before finishing this rudder

[trim horizon]

is it really possible to not get every event ship w/600 roll ? I mean RNG can't be that bad

[shell heron]

Another staag sounds nice as well. That way sanrui will be fully optimized

But thats 14 more til my 3rd one

[finite valve]

even if you have a 99.99% to get a ship if RNG want to be a bitch ain't nothing you can do about it

[vague token]

sometimes the RNGesus says no

she is a spiteful goddess

[finite valve]

same as FGO 1 ticket got a 5* while other whale for $ 1k + for a 5*

[vague token]

isnt fgo like evil though

or so i hear

[trim horizon]

✡ game

rate ups are bad and you can't roll as many time as Azur Lane

If you claimed all the SQ from story, you are able to do only 3 rolls per week and every 50 days a 10shot

[vague token]

oof

[steep fog]

getting closeer and closer to monarch dev 30

reeeeeee

[vague token]

sooooon

[midnight heron]

"torp memes hav low survivability"

fights jint/aurora/yuki combo dat survives 2 barrages

surprised pikachu face

[lament lichen]

But yuki isnt torp meme

[ionic magnet]

prolly one of those memers that actually tries to win and not uses oxytorps

[midnight heron]

they had >14k stats tho

[ionic magnet]

just rng then kek

[midnight heron]

[shell heron]

not even 15k torp meme

[midnight heron]

shud prob use dis to replace surprised pikachu

[ionic magnet]

qt

[vague token]

watashi wa number juan

[shy hazel]

im still waiting to be cucked by gacha

can finally quit in peace

[steep fog]

lmao

[vague token]

[coral wren]

How is the hydraulic steering gear for Yukikaze?

[shy hazel]

bad

ykkz doesnt need it

youll want fe more

more like

its redundant

[coral wren]

I was thinking boiler replacement.

[shy hazel]

boiler is still better

[coral wren]

Would it be useful for Ayanami or Sirius?

[shy hazel]

mmm

ayanami will die whatever u crank in her

if u mean pvp

sirius mmm

sirius isnt really that useful after airstrikes

[vague token]

i dont think rudder will do much for most of the cls unless they have low evasion?

compared to max hp

[coral wren]

Or maybe Nagato as an SG upgrade?

[shy hazel]

ppl use it on backline

esp nagato amagi

not for me tho

i prefer full offense

about 70% of ppl here use the rudder for backline

wtv

[coral wren]

Would HP Hydro Steering Gear stack effectively with Beaver Badge?

[shy hazel]

it can help nullify some barrage dmg

beaver stacks with anything

each should be separate so it should stack

well you dont want 2 of any in 1 ship tho

[coral wren]

Or would it be better to replace her SG Radar with a shell?

[shy hazel]

any shell isnt good for pvp

consider it in pve tho

or maybe wskai

[vague token]

only 2 ships use shell for pvp

ws kai and biscuit

[shy hazel]

who the hell uses bisko in pvp

i put hole in your forehead

[vague token]

i do

[lament lichen]

Ofc its the guy that uses sara would also use bisko

[vague token]

ive been using biscuit/amagi/sara for a while now

are you guys even paying attention to the memes

xD

[shy hazel]

die in a fire

[vague token]

no u

[lament lichen]

Cant pay attention if i dont look at the screen

[lament lichen]

Oh apparently the next update is 1.7 GB

Guess we rushing all attacks

[steep fog]

wow

how do u know

[lament lichen]

Jp twitter

[midnight heron]

much update

i bet most of it is sandy kai code /s

[shy hazel]

rather lose rounds than rush

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[elder crane]

In terms of eHP, ignoring speed and such, PR rudder is the most eHP you can get on pretty much all CLs as well as obviously CAs

Ykkz in normal PvE also gets more non-ram/fire eHP out of rudder, but not for PvP, the difference being mostly due to enemy stat differences

On main fleet, it's great on CVs so they don't get murdered by barrages quite as much, on BB/BC it can work as Rudder/SG or Rudder/HFCR, Rudder/White shell is already somewhat questionable, and Rudder/Badge really nerfs damage output (although it is max survivability)

[coral wren]

Is there a more recent PvP ship and equipment guide than the one in the pins?

[sharp wing]

It's most recent EN relevant thing

There nothing to update anyway

[midnight heron]

updated vg meta = sandykai juneau sanjuan

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

||just dont take me srsly||

[coral wren]

I'd think that all the new equipment since it was written would be something that would warrant an update.

[sharp wing]

PVP won't change till WSKai

new equips already in there

They just apply to only few places

Rudders for main fleet and CAs and nepguns for main fleet auxes

and staags for same main fleet and CAs

Guide was updated in July, only new equip since then was Sea Fury and HSH, which is not used in pvp

Temeraire didn't get vid

[midnight heron]

ijn bias at its finest

[shy hazel]

ijn bias

ijn bias never changes

[coral wren]

Ijn meta will stop only when we get a strong af faction setup which can glass shit through invul/heav arm

[sharp wing]

The only utterly broken ship will remain Amagi forever, since it caused a lot of community negative feedback and devs learned their lesson

even tho she was a bit "nerfed" before actual release after showcase

and FDG already replaces ryuu easily

Then we just mash FdG + wskai + probably Amagi and we are good

3 faction fleet

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

I will run tiehoe for reasons

That is after my wasd gets 120 from pvp

119 already

[shy hazel]

nah its depends on what you prioritized

nagato became legit again when azuma came

thats basically a bb in vg

a bb that has dank eva too

[sharp wing]

that was discussed many time long ago

But you still can run Azuma without Nagato

doesn't make setup any worse

Will get tier of NamaWS anyway

Many ppl still lazy to change Foxes Amagi to Nagato

Or rather don't bother to 120 ships

I only got 120 pvp ships myself

And lvled 200 aff ships purely from pvp

[shy hazel]

let them expire to oblivion

the only thing i know is

if im still playing this game by then

my fleet will be updated

i dont like hms but i have my hms at almost 120

monarch and kgv is 120

nep is getting there

[sharp wing]

HMS = QE

[shy hazel]

preparing for a rainy day

my qe is lvl 118

god knows the ho will have a kai

[sharp wing]

KGV is very consistent pve ship and monarch can be used anywhere

so i don't see anything special there

[shy hazel]

some people are fine with ijn only at 120

meta can change anytime

ib4 amagi level ship in uss

[sharp wing]

meta changing doesn't make you stop winning pvp

[shy hazel]

it makes it easier

[sharp wing]

I play Wasd for all i care

[shy hazel]

why would u bother with a less easier fleet

[sharp wing]

indeed

[shy hazel]

pvp is crap and it will stay that way

[sharp wing]

I only go hardcore

[shy hazel]

might as well take the easiest path

[sharp wing]

don't bother with easier fleets

I'd be fine w/ IJN if Nagato not loli

And if QE wasn't monkey too

[shy hazel]

all that matters is skills and stats

appearance can go wtv

[sharp wing]

U play waifu collector game

All that matters is waifu factor

[shy hazel]

do you know the reason i played al

i play to salt ppl in my discord server

not really waifu crap

@ionic magnet

[sharp wing]

Then u can quit np

[shy hazel]

thats why the oath stands

if i miss a single limited ship i quit

[sharp wing]

I still miss Birm

[shy hazel]

ive never missed anything

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

since day 1

[sharp wing]

same

those elites piss me off

[shy hazel]

new year took me 500 cubes for an elite

i bought like 300 cubes

[sharp wing]

lmao

[shy hazel]

this time i wont buy cubes

[sharp wing]

Harutsuki took me 80 something

[shy hazel]

im getting my vr hmd tom

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

im finding a reason to quit the game

[sharp wing]

birm took 3 10x at least by now

[shy hazel]

i wish i miss teme chan or essex

[sharp wing]

If u don't score top 1 pvp next season, u quit

or this?

[shy hazel]

top 1 in avrora is in the first place

unreasonable for me

i dont aim for what i cant do

unless i quit work

[sharp wing]

quit lyfe

[shy hazel]

my job is good so nope

maybe if its shit

[sharp wing]

I mean, some ppl probably wake up midnight to check if some1 rushed on list

[shy hazel]

me is the type that dont wake up once i sleep

if i do i wont be able to sleep again

[sharp wing]

well, i's hard to wake me

I never even remember my dreams

[shy hazel]

you should drink some teas for relaxing

you get a massage

[sharp wing]

I don't want to get waken at night anyway

[shy hazel]

sleeping too deep is bad too

[sharp wing]

Oh, at that note, my friend whaled 3k gems for cubes during Nagato not to get it anyway

I missed 1 tix

Well, last season i woke up half hr before reset, did 1 bonus match, and went back to bed

-4

I don't remember last season i didn't miss tix

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

kiro

this is for u

🔥

i just saw your fleet

and burn it

15 times

[vague token]

ok?

xD

[shy hazel]

stop the memes

[vague token]

never!

ill go further beyond

once i get essex ill be ascending

[lament lichen]

A sara dressed up as essex doesnt count

[vague token]

ill be running both

[sharp wing]

Alter taco is savage

I'll skip this ex

[vague token]

ive skipped like every ex

xD

dont have the right ships leveled for em

[sharp wing]

If they made border EX rewards or something

there 0 motivation to spend 2 hrs there

early exes u could jsut auto

[vague token]

or camp top left

;)

[sharp wing]

usually bottom

[vague token]

was it bottom?

[sharp wing]

well, this 1 is just cancer

[vague token]

i wonder if smoke might be useful to make it to carrier defenses

xD

no cas with smoke though

[sharp wing]

what

[vague token]

what

[shy hazel]

smoke weed everyday

[vague token]

xD

when will yostar give us main fleet smoke

reee

[sharp wing]

Like magi is not enough

Main fleet ships don't deploy smokescreens

irl

BBs can shoot smoke shells, aviation can drop smokebombs, but not deployed on self

Time to buy the packs left with double xD

[lament lichen]

EX is still useless to this day

[sharp wing]

And forever will be

[midnight heron]

soon i shall hav max memes for defense

[sharp wing]

I got 2 built and 2 ready

[midnight heron]

😮

[sharp wing]

even got 1 356 ready to build

and I dismantled like 5 of em

and 2 left

I keep way too many of those niche stuff

4 406

tho only need 1

[midnight heron]

i keep all gold gear unless its 100% useless like crane

[sharp wing]

well, i mean i keep too many copies

[midnight heron]

when i run out of space tho then i'll start destroying

[sharp wing]

1 is enough usually

esp when u have ready to build ones

[lament lichen]

oh no reset double gems

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

cant reset if u never bought

maybe i'll finally buy before reset idk

[sharp wing]

well, max pack had extra +100 on double iirc

or it only retains it after

some1 who didn't buy can look

Blackie just spent $200 to roll for Aber

He got her at least

That was some real SR fest

[midnight heron]

isnt max pack by default +100 compared to the 2nd max

u see prices double thru all the packs but max is the only one that doubles the previous and +100

[sharp wing]

yes

max is extra +100 default value

[midnight heron]

buy $80 pack get $1.67 free

[sharp wing]

and extra there is huge

Extra gems % grow the higher the pack is

So without double it's best to buy the highest pack u can anyway

[midnight heron]

its a trap

[sharp wing]

Make Akashi happy

[midnight heron]

wallet wa mou shindeiru

[shell heron]

although with double gem bonus, every pack is the same value

per gem

so buy them all

[sharp wing]

no1 moved again

time to burn tix