pvp

[waxen dawn]

Idk. My enty counters hiryuu very well

[finite valve]

unless you means your enty on def counter hiryuu on off

winning on off does not speak much about how you counter hiryuu

[ionic magnet]

hiryuu + foxes is actually better than amagi + foxes at 110 meta when fighting namagis

was a fun comp

maybe ill level them next

[vagrant veldt]

that was an ancient meta comp

[ionic magnet]

1v1 hiryuus are too stressful tho thats why i stopped using that comp

[shy hazel]

i never feel stress

[coral wren]

Fuck man, it seems alarm clock is essential

[stark raft]

its always 2nd half of season

[shy hazel]

in fact

having hiryuu might as well mean u never lose

unless u dont proc anything

[steep fog]

284 cubes

im ready for event

[coral wren]

Yeah, it is only second half for me always, jeez

[vague token]

i got 93k gold saved and 200 cubes

[ionic magnet]

3 build-only ships right?

[vague token]

dunno

[ionic magnet]

i think someone posted a while ago

2 ssr and birmingham

[lament lichen]

Alywin

The rare boat

4 in build

Cept she is farmable

[vague token]

ah

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

wash

[sharp wing]

"best smile"

[safe meteor]

whats the highest power rating you made for your main/vanguard fleet?

[charred raptor]

highest rank in PVP is now Admiral?

oh wait, there's a description error in the Rules, nvm

[sharp wing]

Help ranks =/= actual ranks

[real notch]

seafury better than hellcat confirmed?

[vagrant veldt]

no

[sharp wing]

it's substitute

they are different in few ways

[steep fog]

pve AA its still hellcat

below w12 its still reppuu

[real notch]

oh

[sharp wing]

Sea Fury is 0.3 sec faster, has 2 more speed, has more crush damage, more alpha aa but bit less hp and bit less aa dps

[vagrant veldt]

pve vf17 if possible

[real notch]

you get about a .3 faster RoF with equal DMG, more touchdown and slightly faster speed

[sharp wing]

burst aa more important for pvp

than dps

[real notch]

i'd trade 0.3 faster RoF for 4 x 12.7mm MG anyday

[steep fog]

hmm not sure if seafury better than reppuu on hiryuu?

or reppuu still best

[real notch]

4x 20mm cannons are more bursty

[sharp wing]

reppuu is aa bait

[real notch]

than 2x 20mm cannon + 4x 12.7mm MG

[sharp wing]

they have different role

[real notch]

it's just the way the AA loadout works

20mm cannons fire more damage per shot at a more acute angle

[sharp wing]

they have more burst but less dps

and less angle

[real notch]

also the in game dmg figures for planes are usually a load of 💩

[sharp wing]

for bombers mostly

torp bombers damage is legit

[real notch]

they use some obscure formula to calculate average plane AA dmg

[sharp wing]

and fighter damage per wave also

[real notch]

so the 86 dmg for hellcat and seafury

is not actually 86 in practice

it all boils down to the AA gun loadout

[sharp wing]

ofc

[real notch]

seafury has the same loadout as seafang though

soooo

[sharp wing]

Sea Fury has T0 AA guns

[real notch]

yea generally 12.7mm MGs are more attractive than 20mm cannons

[sharp wing]

They are faster and have more damage

[real notch]

because of the wider range coverage

that's why corsair is so good even as a purple fighter

with 6x 12.7mm MG

[sharp wing]

that's vf17 for you

gold corsair

[real notch]

yea vf17 is the same deal

[vagrant veldt]

vf17 has buffed 6x12.7

[real notch]

it's just the other stats are pretty meh

[sharp wing]

But they have much less alpha damage

[vagrant veldt]

think the other t0 planes didn't get this treatment

[real notch]

vf17 has buffed 500lb bombs

[sharp wing]

vf17 has BOTH buffed aa and bombs

sea fury only gets buffed AA

[safe meteor]

so, whats the highest power rating you reached for vanguard/main fleet?

[real notch]

probably 15k

[safe meteor]

is 16k reachable?

[sharp wing]

not on EN

[real notch]

not sure

[safe meteor]

ok

[real notch]

not really worth the effort to find out

[sharp wing]

my wasd setup always around 15k

[safe meteor]

meanwhile this event vanguard can casually reach over 20k power rating,

[sharp wing]

they have bloated stats

at least 1.5x

[real notch]

but yea i still believe vf17 is only good against CV comps

[sharp wing]

so that's 1.5x yr usual vg

[real notch]

by itself it's a pretty subpar plane if we are talking minmaxing

[sharp wing]

vf17 is good vs everything

[safe meteor]

which plane is subpar?

[real notch]

i would still run reppuu x hellcat or reppuu x reppuu

[vagrant veldt]

if it had a stats graph it would all be S+

[sharp wing]

vf17 gives yr fleet - crush damage on intercept, has higest surface damage

[real notch]

yea the performance difference between reppuu, vf17 and hellcat is like

5%

but that's why i said minmaxing

[sharp wing]

reppuu is just for aa bait

[real notch]

reppuu is good because of plane speed and high touchdown

[sharp wing]

also that's very questionable

speed is only used for bait

[vagrant veldt]

reppuu also lower hp

[sharp wing]

having high speed is bad for aa

and lower hp actually will often result in lower crash

[real notch]

but the only thing i don't rly like about vf17 is lower speed and touchdown

[vagrant veldt]

the bait thing shouldnt be a huge thing right?

that was ancient meta

[sharp wing]

nah

[real notch]

AA baiting is pretty important lol

[vagrant veldt]

they changed AAs

[sharp wing]

it actually may be counter productive

[real notch]

wait, how is high speed bad

xd

[sharp wing]

Makes yet planes deal less aa damage

the faster they fly, the less they hit

[vagrant veldt]

before reload was very important. now its range

[real notch]

oh

uhh....

[sharp wing]

Also AA bait can make yr planes actually take more damage

[real notch]

yea i guess, assuming your airstrike times perfectly with enemy airstrike lol

[sharp wing]

you always get intercept

[real notch]

otherwise you're not trying to max AA dmg

i think

you're always trying to max ship dmg

yea, interception planes are like 2-3

[sharp wing]

then it's vf17 by default

[real notch]

also i believe the 12.7mm MG loadout has a 270 degree range of fire

[vagrant veldt]

180

[real notch]

so it'll shoot planes that are even behind it lol

oh

[sharp wing]

lol, 270

[vagrant veldt]

shouldnt have any 270 guns

[real notch]

is it not 270?

[sharp wing]

how the fck u imagine that

plane guns rotate almost backwards?

lmao

[real notch]

yeah

i mean

DD guns are 360 degrees

it's not a new concept

[vagrant veldt]

pretty sure sb2c had rear guns

[sharp wing]

That's DD

Only Big Bombers had turrets

DD guns can freely rotate

that's legit

[real notch]

ah ok it's 180

yea that's still pretty good

[sharp wing]

20 mm cannons have 80 degrees

[real notch]

but yea so the biggest factor in airstrike battles is

which side's AA circle gets to fire 2, or 3 times

[sharp wing]

That's where bait can be bad

making yr planes get extra shot at them

[real notch]

weelllllll

not if you run a reppuu + 50 speed fighter setup

[sharp wing]

reppuu is 60

[real notch]

the reppuu will dive in first, pre-emp an AA circle tick

[sharp wing]

everything else ~50

reppuu baits 1st shot

[real notch]

then your 50 speed fighter will fly in right after without getting alpha shot

[sharp wing]

can get caught by second in the end with 1st planes from slower bunch

and make rest planes get 3rd shot in the end

[real notch]

yea

[sharp wing]

also, few reppuu may go down

[real notch]

generally a better situation than

[sharp wing]

resulting in less crsh damage

[real notch]

a big plane clump

all getting alpha shot

[sharp wing]

means less damage per plane

[real notch]

then the precious bananas won't get their 420 touchdown

[sharp wing]

when all planes hit same time you may be sure they don't go below 30%

[real notch]

oh, we discussed that in the past

it's a misconception

AA circle dmg is not a distributed pool apparently

it's individually rolled on each plane within the cirlce

so whether you have 2 planes or 18 planes in the circle

they'll all get dmg rolled on them independent of each other

i know for a fact the azur lane sanctuary guide gets this wrong

i confirmed that with doublemint

the only other guy bored enough to do heavy research on plane mechanics

[sharp wing]

Still getting 2 shots at planes better than 3 imo

[real notch]

[sharp wing]

I just seen Mona saying... She could be my Big Sis in another world

That probably special line when sortied w/ Dork

[coral wren]

Yes, she is refering to dork

Well, all other kgv ships are her little sisters, so it's only natural

[sharp wing]

It's all a bit messed up in game though. Cause actual little sisters of Monarch were the 1st (1911) King George V class ships (KGV, Centurion, Ajax, Audacious). Which then were seceded by other classes in order > Iron Duke > QE > Revenge > Nelson > and finally the (second) King George V class (1939) (HMS King George V (1940), HMS Prince of Wales (1941), HMS Duke of York (1941), HMS Howe (1942) and HMS Anson (1942))

Wonder if we gonna get Wednesday Maint again, but no announcement yet....

[ionic magnet]

history time

well, they did say USS event is on end of july

so should be tmr

[sharp wing]

I mean, Not Thursday, but Wednesday

as last time

Cause JP started having maints on Wednesday evening

well, midday

We started having Wednesday maint same time w/ Jp

[ionic magnet]

yea i meant wednesday

unless yostar july has 1 extra day

[wicked rivet]

yall ever just

fight the opponent on the far right just cause they'll give more xp

cause same

[sharp wing]

When Amagi loses to Hood

[lean phoenix]

aux for pvp hiryu?

EN

[sharp wing]

eva (rudder/beaver) + oil tank (or cata)

Well, we usually only discuss EN pvp here

other is just future planning

[lean phoenix]

I c, thx

[sharp wing]

pins have tierlist w/ gear setups too

[lean phoenix]

would you take ryusei or 818 on Hiryu

[sharp wing]

Hyryuu has very high torp bomber efficiency, so Ryussei can do wonders on her (sometimes taking 80%hp on enemy flag in 1 strike)
818 is not an option at all generally, better take barra for more torp damage and crash damage
818 is mostly for Foxes, put 818 on Akagi w/ her low torp eff to slow enemy vg 1st with eralier launch, then Ryusseis on Kaga delete them with slower strike

And after VG dies, 818 basically becomes just worse Barra

[lean phoenix]

I see

[elder crane]

Yeah, overall fewer planes in circle = less total AA damage taken but more per plane

Speed of player planes means that for single-CV strikes or simultaneous strikes, only 2 AA ticks actually matter

Without reppu, first tick catches Fighters, TBs, and sometimes SB2C/Ju ( gold DBs are faster and get caught almost always)
Second tick then catches sometimes fighters and TBs, and almost always catches DBs - if it is set up well, otherwise it will often catch nothing

With Reppu, first tick catches Reppu, sometimes TBs, and rarely hits DBs
Second tick rareiy catches Reppu (too fast), sometimes TBs, and usually DBs, unless the setup is bad

[sharp wing]

Washi is persistent, lmao

[sharp wing]

A Retro Smug...

[elder crane]

Drain your pockets right as event hits

[sharp wing]

I think i got her ready

Nope. 72 only

She is like Leander of DDs

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

oh nice I got mine to lv 85 at some point
good job past me

Well Black shell is coming
time to have the noninformed gimp their PvP teams

[sharp wing]

Oh, we do get black shell

Promise Crate

Hell yeah

[trim horizon]

yeah

[sharp wing]

And 5 episodes leaked

3rd Ep is Taihoe anniv skin apparently

[finite valve]

2 is taihou and 4 is sandy

3 might be NC skin?

kinda dorky with the base ball hat

1 maybe hornet with her cowboy hat?

[sharp wing]

sandy retro

[finite valve]

what else you think lel

i would prefer bunny skin for NC instead of baseball skin tbh

at least the silhouette looks like a baseball hat?

[sharp wing]

inb4 Enty

[trim horizon]

wat

[finite valve]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAtnWsMUEAAwmjD.jpg:large

[trim horizon]

oh

[finite valve]

might be enty

looks like her

[trim horizon]

prob her, since they announced a skin for her didn't they ?

[finite valve]

tho her rigging looks more like BB rigging tbh

the 2 extension from her back

[sharp wing]

More likely that it will be Enty/Hornet artist due to recent activity

at least for one of them

[trim horizon]

who's the 1st

[finite valve]

so 1 either hornet kai or another skin (leaning toward kai)
and 3 is either enty or NC baseball skin (enty most likely since its too dorky on NC )

hornet most likely

[trim horizon]

I don't really recognize her silhouette

[finite valve]

her cowboy hat

you can clearly see the hat

same as 3

[sharp wing]

hat and ponytails

[trim horizon]

that's probably a skin, I don't really know

[finite valve]

dorky enty with her country fav sport

[steep fog]

1 is cali kai

[sharp wing]

nah

she doesn't have that kind of haircut and hat

[trim horizon]

New skin for Enterprise and Cleveland (Global Debut on EN) from the AX panel q&a

we got Enty song

[finite valve]

so enty baseball skin?

meh too dorky

iamma buy it

[sharp wing]

Well, we got that on one of loadings

But ye. 1st skin matches Cleve haircut w/ hat

[finite valve]

EN embraces the cleve bro meme

meh

[sharp wing]

Trap

[finite valve]

so cleve cowboy skin and enty baseball skin

[steep fog]

huh

where is the art

[finite valve]

🚮

[sharp wing]

Well, Cleve artist is same as Enty, so ye

They went the cheap way

1 artist 2 skins

[trim horizon]

kek

[steep fog]

lmao

[trim horizon]

I only have 4.9k gems and there is no lucky bag

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

wryyyyy

[sharp wing]

And Crate

And i'm out of all 1st time buys

But they gonna reset w/ anniv

The question is when

[finite valve]

the skins are for anni

so they going to reset

[trim horizon]

lucky bag is the only thing worth

[sharp wing]

Lucky bag is too rng if many skins

[trim horizon]

I mean if you used all the 2x bonus

[sharp wing]

well

probably

[trim horizon]

who cares about the skin you get gems and cubes

[finite valve]

they might bring back the bag at anni tho

[trim horizon]

yeah probably

[sharp wing]

I was pissed when i got Sprat skin on Biscuit event from box

[trim horizon]

but anni skins are permanent

and there is the x2 resets so is not that worth then

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

they might get discount for 1st

Sodako skin is mustbuy anyway

[finite valve]

for me is taihou

[sharp wing]

both

Found this
During the event, "Party" series skins will be on sale. Afterwards, they will remain available for purchase in the store:

[trim horizon]

also I have 30 cubes left and still no Centaur, I was hoping for the lucky bag for the cubes too

[sharp wing]

I don't build Cent, 150 cubes and 2 bulds ahead...

If only anniv ships perma

[trim horizon]

If I had more I wouldn't have enough golds anyway but it's so sad seeing this little amount of cubes

[sharp wing]

ON JP anniv ships didn't have that big rate up too

[finite valve]

also shows me your sandies and CL bp

[sharp wing]

0.5% Albacore

and 1.8% 2 other SRs

[trim horizon]

[steep fog]

the imprtant thing is GOLD

time to crack mail and run oil comm

[sharp wing]

I got too many bps anyway

[steep fog]

[finite valve]

implying ppl going to kai sandy day 1 instead of pulling for ship

[sharp wing]

Some ppl will pull all ships and kai sandy 1st day

I know few

[steep fog]

u cant kai sandy day 1

isnt the mic timegated

[stark raft]

Yeah its time gated

[finite valve]

oh yeh forgot

you need the mic

[sharp wing]

Well, 1st day it's available

[finite valve]

7 days event

nah you need the mic for SR kai

7 days event

[stark raft]

I need to see stats before i pull for these ships though

[steep fog]

just get 9k gold/day

[stark raft]

[steep fog]

ez

just run oil comm

[trim horizon]

or feed

[finite valve]

at least anni is just build event

can just run 7-2

[sharp wing]

And gotta buy QE skin if you ever wanna use her

[finite valve]

monkey face is still monkey face

[trim horizon]

gonna use Aurora again once I have her skin

[stark raft]

yeah that

[sharp wing]

her face on that skin is ugly

[stark raft]

ylia skin is big yikes

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Default aurora skin is fine

[trim horizon]

I missed the Spring's one

[sharp wing]

Default has most proportional face

[stark raft]

violin is still better

just cause of YLiA

[trim horizon]

well... Taihou exist

[stark raft]

[sharp wing]

what

[trim horizon]

proportion 👀

not the face but

y'know 👀

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

taihou throw proportion out the window and say fuck it iamma bury SKK face in these mountain

not even melon but mountain

[trim horizon]

[lament lichen]

Maint today

[sharp wing]

Wednesday maints

Looks like that's new thing since last maint for JP and us

[wicked rivet]

they did say we were gonna get synched with CN/JP eventually

this was gonna happen someday so better sooner than later

[trim horizon]

what did it cost tho

a bunch of bad ships and some retro ? pepeg

[finite valve]

the only sync content i care is PR 2 tbh

and to a lesser extent FW rerun for 2 HFCR?

other are just whatever

[trim horizon]

[elder crane]

what about cats?

[finite valve]

gold sink

pass

as if we already don't have enough gold sink with sonic speed event already

HARD pass

[trim horizon]

inb4 ep1 Hornet retro

10 mins before reset

[finite valve]

well you not wrong since this event will most likely have alterprise in it

[sharp wing]

Hornet loli

[trim horizon]

1669 10/10

[sharp wing]

1621

[shell heron]

1665

[sharp wing]

How are you that low tho, i lost 7 tix

[wicked rivet]

1208

WAIT

SHS IN AUGUST SHOP

[sharp wing]

Yeah

[shell heron]

because I got at least 6 dead resets in the first 3 days

including the first

so I got a score of a casual somehow

[sharp wing]

Well, i got ded start

[shell heron]

one dead start is salvageable. getting 1 or 2 dead resets per day early on is not

[sharp wing]

That's basically Sandy for you

[nova tree]

For pvp, sea fury pretty much performs about the same as other ones? I know Reppu and VF-17 is preferred

[elder crane]

I'd say it's third best
And then F6F
Not much difference though between the two

[vague token]

is the sea fury the event fighter?

[sharp wing]

ye

[vague token]

kk

[sharp wing]

It actually entered service 2 years after war ended
So we get like a prototype developed during war

Didn't get +1 for 400 diff

[vague token]

oops another match gone with the wind

xD

[sharp wing]

Distractions

[vague token]

yep

im too busy tacticsing in fire emblem ;)

[hot creek]

I haven't even actually played 3H in a couple days because I'm just theorycrafting character builds lol

[vague token]

xD

[lament lichen]

I failed to recruit 2 of the students lol

[vague token]

oof

[sharp wing]

[hot creek]

I'm not gonna bother recruiting everyone. Just Lysithea cause she bae.

[sharp wing]

[lament lichen]

i missed leonie and ashe but only first playthru

and lysithea is pretty op

[hot creek]

Yeah Lysithea is super min maxed. High Mag/Dex/Spd growth rates and shit everything else lol.

[vague token]

dont need anything else when you have 5 range dark

[hot creek]

what is that even possible? she doesn't even learn any of the range 3 dark skills

[vague token]

+2 range staff aux, +1 dark range from S reason

[hot creek]

whats the +2 staff aux? an item?

[vague token]

like a shield

but it's a staff

it takes up that aux slot

this one is from Lorenz's paralogue

[hot creek]

I see

[vague token]

oh yeah what was the analysis on sea fury again? 3rd best fighter?

or was it 4th

[stark raft]

prolly 3rd

pirate > reppuu > fury

[sharp wing]

it's hellcat alternative

[stark raft]

hellcat for PvE tho

[sharp wing]

hellcat is initially pvp

[vague token]

ah kk

[sharp wing]

till we got later chapters

but now we also german planes

So hellcats kinda danked

[stark raft]

might just test it out

2 reppuu vs 1 reppuu 1 fury on cent

[sharp wing]

Sea Fury flight speed is much slower than Reppuu, but faster than vf17/hellcat,
a bit lower crash, than Reppuu, but significantly more, than other 2
Has highest burst AA of em
Has bit lower HP, then Hellcat/VF17, but much more, than Reppuu

[vague token]

dont they both have the same aa

4x20mm cannon?

(reppuu and sea fury)

[sharp wing]

It has t0 guns

Reppuu has Type99 guns

so it's all 3 different 20mm guns...

[stark raft]

actually

[vague token]

wait, the same caliber cannon/mg have different stats?

[stark raft]

does cent's swordfish on skill have crash dmg

[sharp wing]

yes

type99 japanese 20mm are diff from regular

and t0 diff from t3

[vague token]

im guessing there's an Image based table with the differences on JP wiki

so i cant translate it

xD

[sharp wing]

Well, type 99 has only greater damage, than t3

other stats same

[vague token]

i mean there's no way to know that

without a lookup table

[sharp wing]

but t0 20mm apparently got even higher stats, than type99

there no data about t0 guns on cn wiki tho

[vague token]

oof

[sharp wing]

lower one is type 99

aka Reppuu gun

[vague token]

oh it's just a tiny bit stronger i guess

[sharp wing]

5 dps diff on +10

Not sure what is last column DPS

[vague token]

im guessing one is like

dps if you only shoot once

while the other is constant like ch12/13 plane fights

maybe?

[sharp wing]

well it is
damage+10 reload+0 reload+10 dps+0 dps+10 range angle ???

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

And i found VF bombs damage

[stark raft]

Fuck these planes tbh

imma just use 2 reppuu and call it a day

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

they talking about the planes on ALEC as well

lmao

[sharp wing]

if you don't have vf as spare sure

[stark raft]

Does cent even lineup with hiryuu?

[vague token]

normal take off probably, but skill one is who knows

[stark raft]

why did I send lusty and cent on comms

they have all my planes

[vague token]

oof

[sharp wing]

lol

you sent them for 100 rec chip comms?

[stark raft]

1200 oil comm

need that gold

[sharp wing]

well, i send there only sub 100 ships

[trim horizon]

need new gems pack

[sharp wing]

subs slaving there atm

[trim horizon]

I think im about to use 4.9k gems in thsi event

[sharp wing]

same as dorm, same as comms... When this sub hell gonna end

[stark raft]

my subs are like all below 70

[vague token]

then you gotta 100 affinity them

xD

[stark raft]

those weak lil lolis

[sharp wing]

u-522 already 100 aff

surcoaf and 2 ijn SR next

purely for weeklies

Then i will get I-19 someday

[vague token]

someday

[sharp wing]

make it 3 SR IJN botes

[vague token]

i like having surcouf with 2 ssr ijn subs

[sharp wing]

IJN bias even in fcking subs

[vague token]

better question is the new eagle sub

will she be bad (probably)

[sharp wing]

wait, we getting albacore

some of US subs are actually good too

[vague token]

is albacore good because she gets 10% on all?

relevant enemy types

[sharp wing]

?

I mean raw stats

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

Albacore is close to those ijn in hp/eva

[vague token]

_>

[sharp wing]

If you look at hp chart, everything at 1,9k hp + is IJN + Surc and Albacore, lol

[vague token]

ah

[sharp wing]

eva again ijn and uss

[vague token]

i guess albacore should be ok since she has good bases, a bonus barrage with burning, and a useful damage booster skill

[sharp wing]

Surc is just submersible CA

Well, that was her irl intention xD

[vague token]

well a lot of subs dont get a bonus barrage or a useful damage mod skill

xD

[sharp wing]

well, if purely for weeklies and surface attaccs, skill = 0

[vague token]

does the slow torp skill not work?

[sharp wing]

and surface attaccs is main use in pve

nothing works

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

no skills

[vague token]

wait then why do some get a button barrage

[sharp wing]

barrage only

[vague token]

isnt that their barrage skill?

or is that they're entering battle barrage

[sharp wing]

barrage is the only skill you can use in weekly

and it's active, aside surcoaf

Surc automaticaly fires barrage on surfacing

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

And it sets enemy arses on fire

[vague token]

yeah, big ticks too

for weekly

[sharp wing]

Well, or outright sinking em

even in regular pve her barrage and gun hurt

Imagine we could +10 it

[vague token]

i mean, the base damage would be the same, but it would be nice to have the fleet power boost

since that is important for sub surface attack

[sharp wing]

eh

for surface attaccs all you need is torp stat

sr subs w/ dildos

[vague token]

wait is it torp only?

i thought it was like fleet power xD

[sharp wing]

what

[vague token]

the sub's total combat power

[sharp wing]

lol

[elder crane]

It's fleet power
but rainbow torps best for that too

[vague token]

yeah which means blue gun

is sad

they could keep the gun with the same stats and bump it to gold rarity for that fleet power bonus ;)

[elder crane]

True but tbh the difference is usually not too important

Maybe even make it purp instead of gold up cost, like the KizAI equips

Also finally 200 aff on Baka

[vague token]

congrats

[sharp wing]

Well, SR subs for fleet power then

and dildos for same reason

to max surface attacc

[elder crane]

Too bad this means KMS sub buffs don't apply

[sharp wing]

well, i dun even like wolfpack

those u-101 and u-73 a cool

waifus

[vague token]

i personally dont believe wolfpack is equivalent to the ijn damage boosters except in terms of durability

[sharp wing]

and all

u boats just paper

[vague token]

plus none of the u boats have a 2nd bonus barrage

so their damage in combat is also lower on that end

but as i havent actually tried them

i dont know for sure

xD

[sharp wing]

Well, u-81 has skill, to make torps inflict flood for example

Will be yr waifu i guess

[vague token]

and also doesnt have wolf pack

so

[elder crane]

U-47 ofc has a super broken skill
but that doesn't need a wolfpack to work

[vague token]

or wait she does

she's probably the better one

xD

[sharp wing]

there is only 1 boat that doesn't have wolfack, she has solo skill

[elder crane]

Yeah she has the upgraded wolfpack too, U-81

[sharp wing]

u-47

[vague token]

oh hers is stronger

7%

and 40% evasion bonus lol

cause 1300 hp

[sharp wing]

Well, that normal for U boats

[vague token]

meanwhile eventual ssv with 2600 hp

airstrike projectile clear utility

[sharp wing]

Surc still thiccest

[vague token]

and a main fleet buff

of 10% damage

[elder crane]

Eh for now sub survivability doesn't matter too much

no enemy ASW

[vague token]

oh i only mean like i-13 destroys all subs with her utility

xD

which u boat was the one with the summon outside of hunting range skill

that one is neat

[sharp wing]

522

[vague token]

ah gotcha

big utility there

[sharp wing]

U-101 is also U-boat buffer

[vague token]

7% is ok, but i think slow torpedos is better

as it works on everything

12% vs literally all

[sharp wing]

Well, she buffs Other boats too

[vague token]

i mean

[sharp wing]

so that's essentially 21% boost

[vague token]

i mean, there's 2 gold ssr ijn with slow torpedo

and double barrages

[sharp wing]

there elite slow too

i-56

with broken buff too

that now works 100% due to mechanics not ingame yet

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

yeah but no double barrage on her

so you lose out a bit

[sharp wing]

15% to all offense stats

Well, i-19 is barrage + slow torps

pretty dumb

powercreep

[vague token]

yeah

also

pierces

the bonus barrage hits TWO enemies

[sharp wing]

i-168 too

[vague token]

so your potential damage is huge

and i-168 gets a 100% crit rate barrage

lel

[sharp wing]

IJN sub bias

[vague token]

yep

who even cares about stacking buffs

when you can just toss those 2

and it works against basically all enemy types

[sharp wing]

mapwipe

[vague token]

then toss in ssv

and ijn superiority

is like

oh boi

[sharp wing]

in the end it doesn't matter, cause surface attaccs

[vague token]

well, you should probably call in i-13

since she has an air strike

she can clear the board

like any carrier

[sharp wing]

lol

not really

well, you can spend 1-2 ammo

surface attacc doesn't work on boss i think

At least they always ignored boss for me

they don't even move towards boss node if it spawns

[vague token]

[fierce field]

can anybody give me the screenshots of HPFCR and the High Performance AA radar?
like this

[vague token]

[fierce field]

nice

[sharp wing]

Let's see if 600 diff will be +1

660 even

[vague token]

hmm, no essex in that event silhouette image

[sharp wing]

Why would

[vague token]

i thought she was anni

[sharp wing]

They put Taihoe for that part

then Sandy retro and 2 new skins

[vague token]

oh is it just 3 skins and sandy retro xD

that's a weird way to do it

[sharp wing]

Washi steals Amagi mvp again

well, it looks like, Cleve skin, Anniv skins, Enty skin, Sandy retrp

Anniv part represented by taihoe

No sight of Avrora tho

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

I want Avrora minievent

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Wonder how Edgy Baltimore gonna be

Smug retro + edgy schoolgal

[vague token]

she does all the sports

[trim horizon]

Bataan VA

[sharp wing]

school sloot

Bataan looks lost

esp in that skin

[primal wing]

<3

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

when you recognize a rusher and he immediately rush to r1 and pts difference is not enough to give you a +1

reeeee

[sharp wing]

I'm looking at this 152 guy and i have big doubts....

Fck ded pvp

need to sleep more resets

[trim horizon]

idk if I should refresh

[sharp wing]

nah

[primal wing]

Don't have time to refresh every single hour. I'm happy with it.

[trim horizon]

I doubt Dratini has extra tix

[sharp wing]

Refreshing is not really works like that

[trim horizon]

my only hope is this nakaga fleet

[lament lichen]

But dratini is a dragon pokemon

[trim horizon]

[stark raft]

i should put nakaga def fleet to jebait ppl

think im a rusher

[sharp wing]

I have Wasd fleet you can never guess

[lament lichen]

Just out kisaragi on your team

Put*

[sharp wing]

🚓

Put loli akagi and hiei....

time for sleep anyway

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Now only to not sleep past reset

into maint i mean

[stark raft]

[trim horizon]

maybe, but maybe Sleepy Dratini have extra tickets for real

[sharp wing]

Pleb fleet

[trim horizon]

🐍

[sharp wing]

Snake!

SNake?!

[trim horizon]

[lament lichen]

Datamine skills doesnt look like uss gonna change stuff for pvp

[vague token]

muh ijn bias

[trim horizon]

wut a surprise

[lament lichen]

Lucky A is alabamas first skill

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

is that literally lucky e but on guns?

[shy hazel]

lucky a

[lament lichen]

No

[vague token]

oh

[lament lichen]

Its just a barrage

[vague token]

that would be hilarious if it was

[lament lichen]

And some stats

[vague token]

hmm yes, amagi barrage?

dodge

big seven?

dodge

xD

[lament lichen]

Gives like 3-12 points in reload

[vague token]

would actually promote mixed timing

rip

[shy hazel]

alabama is ca

[lament lichen]

Takes 5-15% less damage

[shy hazel]

so dunno

[lament lichen]

5-20% less damage taken every 20 secs

[vague token]

wow that is underwhelming for something called Lucky A

they should have just gone for it

[lament lichen]

70% barrage

[vague token]

and made lucky e the gun version

and make all the ijn fast guns cry

[lament lichen]

And its a timer barrage

[vague token]

eww

[lament lichen]

At 20 secs

Aka washi

[trim horizon]

[shy hazel]

if she can survive long it maybe good

[lament lichen]

Second skill is just minne skills but damage reduction

[shy hazel]

if only shes a ca ykkz

lol

[lament lichen]

Kill 5 boats for a buff

[vague token]

_>

[lament lichen]

Oh baltimore might be good

If you dont use uss cv and cvl

15% eva

[vague token]

sounds like a worse kizuna

unless her attacking stats are better

[finite valve]

data mine the skill already?

what they do?

[lament lichen]

She changes her gun to AP

Then theres some modifier changes

[ionic magnet]

AP 👀

[lament lichen]

She gets a buff depending on whos in the backline

[finite valve]

[lament lichen]

Mgm +1 if you care about that

[vague token]

i mean she's a gunboat

right?

[lament lichen]

Yeah

[vague token]

they'd be crazy to add an eagle gunboat without MGM+1

[finite valve]

US ship

[lament lichen]

Her AP is a special kind

[finite valve]

not gun boat

yeh you wish

[vague token]

but true big brain would be to add an eagle gunboat with aux+1

instead of mgm+1

[finite valve]

all US cl and ca are all gun boat

[vague token]

[finite valve]

ap ca sound like a bad case of uselessness if i ever saw one

[lament lichen]

Alabama is for mobbing

[vague token]

yeah, she'll be good for AA requirements in hard mode

[lament lichen]

Her skill

[vague token]

and ez clearing with mob oriented skills

perfect for that

[lament lichen]

Is based on fleets killed

And enemies killed in combat

[finite valve]

?

like minne?

[vague token]

fleets killed?

that's new tech

[finite valve]

what about this fleet kill?

[lament lichen]

Trash mobs killed

[vague token]

didnt even know they could track that

[finite valve]

like are they going to count that shit?

[vague token]

NEW TECH

xD

[finite valve]

any bet that they not going to introduce a counter for that "new tech"?

$5 for me

[vague token]

lol no

[trim horizon]

Bataan

1: When equiped with F6F Hellcats, increase fighter efficiency 10-30%, 40-70% on launch to launch extra F6F hellcats

2: When not flagship, increase other CV/CVL reload by 5-15%, increase flagship's AA by 20-50 points

[vague token]

it's invisible

[trim horizon]

[finite valve]

which defeat its fucking purpose

[vague token]

oh that's neat

[finite valve]

what use is a "counter" w/o a fucking counter

[vague token]

just memorize it

;)

[finite valve]

are we playing manual lane or auto lane?

also i doubt i am going to remember that shit even if i play on manual

[vague token]

i mean, if you're playing auto you dont really need the counter

[finite valve]

useless shit

[lament lichen]

The never play lane is where im at

[vague token]

cause at that point what does it matter

just use her over wash

xD

[finite valve]

what is the use of a COUNTER w/o said COUNTER

[ionic magnet]

how about birmingham she qt

[lament lichen]

Alabama replaces washi forvpve

Baltimore is in a weird spot

Dont know her special modifiers yet

[finite valve]

is like saying you should stop on a red light but don't have a light poll to show when the red light is up

stupid new tech is stupid

[trim horizon]

Birmingham

1: While alive, reduce flagship and own burning timer by 3s; When plane is killed in aa circle, increase self firepower/aa by 5-15% for 8s, does not stack

2: 4-10% to trigger when self taking damage, increase self evasion by 10-30% for 5s, 8s trigger cd;

[vague token]

oh, that's actually neat

[ionic magnet]

oh p good

[finite valve]

the AA is a flat 50 AA stat?

[vague token]

good tank for pve

toss amagi in the back and you're practically immune to fire

or just use an extinguisher for memes

[lament lichen]

Yes its flat apprently

[finite valve]

useless lel

[vague token]

i mean

50 aa is a lot on kms or ijn

that's like 20% or something

[lament lichen]

The pr aux gives 100

[finite valve]

unless the skill work for hard mode

still useless either way

if i want aa i bring US cl / ca or lusty centaur

fuck a 50 aa noise

[vague token]

xD

the ijn bias is strong

[finite valve]

any data on the CA or BB?

[ionic magnet]

so tldr: skippable event?

[lament lichen]

U want alabama for mobbing

[ionic magnet]

ill still roll for birmingham atleast

[trim horizon]

Alabama

1: Self reload increased by 3-12 points, self torp damage taken reduced by 5-20%; every 20s, 40-70% chance to fire a barrage, scales with skill level

2: During a sortie, for every enemy fleet defeated, increase self firepower by 0.5-2%, after defeating 5 enemy fleets, reduce own backline damage taken by 3.5-8%;

[vague token]

by points they mean flat or % lol

[trim horizon]

Baltimore

1: Main gun's ammo type is changed to AP, damage vs armor is increased based on skill level

2: When sortied with Eagle CV/CVLs, increase fleet's AA by 2.5-7%, increase Eagle CV/CVL Airpower by 5-15%;

[vague token]

wait, self torp damage?

wut

[finite valve]

self torp damage taken reduced by 5-20%?

wtf is this line for

[vague token]

nani?

[lament lichen]

Flat

[finite valve]

like wtf?

[vague token]

what

why would you give 12 flat reload

[finite valve]

pretty sure pve don't got torp to back line

is that for pvp or what?

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

that's useless for pvp anyways

[ionic magnet]

these skills are messed up

[finite valve]

all these AA specialist

and still no use in w13

[vague token]

so

12 flat reload

is 7% reload increase

[finite valve]

lusty and centaur alone just rekt these AA ship

[vague token]

the definition of underwhelming

[finite valve]

[vague token]

maybe the data miner is just trolling

cause that's some garbo skills

[finite valve]

[trim horizon]

lmao I refreshed a +1

[finite valve]

by the look of how useless US ships are

i seriously doubt iowa going to do anything

another useless AA meme

[vague token]

also that last buff on fleet kills is pretty bad

unless you're going for full clear

it takes all 5 to get 10% fp

and 8% dr

[finite valve]

don't you always need to kill 6 nodes for w12+ anyway?

[lament lichen]

But you need 6 kills

For the boss

[trim horizon]

Bataan is shop/pts right ?

[lament lichen]

Yeah

[vague token]

i mean you can have boss fleet take 1

so you dont have to worry about ammo

[lament lichen]

Acutally

Its the sub

Bataan is points you get from farming

As a milestone

[vague token]

since the 8% damage reduction doesnt really help with the fact that you're taking 2x time to kill

on the 6th fight

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

if it was like 33% or something big

or it scaled further per kill

[ionic magnet]

well mob fleets can usually do 6 fights easily anyways

[vague token]

well, that just means it has no impact anyways

10% fp when you're -50% damage

[ionic magnet]

yea p much

[vague token]

is literally pointless

[finite valve]

useless shit all round for an exclusive US event

JP bias too strong