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If someone attacks me and I lose do I lose points?
So you can literally Yolo the defense fleet and it doesn't matter
yes
if they atk u and win ur ships get permadeath 
def fleet is use to stall lower rank players than you and sometimes used to be a bait for players to attack you sooner
now you enter "sandbagging" guide.
please contact @shy hazel

Ohboi
People probably just farm me anyway since my power level is low
xD

dax would kill us all
sub in pvp lmao
lol
No more tickets guess it's time to sleep can play again in 12 hours lol
no, we need sub vs sub

am I ready
I'm not....
DAMN YOUI!
Bunny sub cost me 100 cubes...
im not!

still have today lol
still missing 2 subs and low on
from lb and shit
getting jebaited by subs 
nah
i have like lets see....
rather ditch her
yes I am ready to use my wallet to spam for centaur
for superior elf
That u-101 smug got me
o she's doing her job right
Akashi be like
Well, i got all at least...

i just did daily 1 pull and got 4/5 subs
no iroha
acceptable i guess
fuck
now get 5/5
no way 
hmm

should I try 5 builds
does anyone know if Abercrombie is along with centaur event?

well i dont have coins anyway even if i wanted
I was about same, then 100 cubes for last elite sub
Surcouf strong enough for weekly anyway 
Surc is thicc enough for anything 
missing subs but
itsjustaprankbro


While hunting for that hideous rabbit...
gonna daily build cent, like always 
Most likely my plan... Just daily build then pull hard on the last day if I don't get her before then
Or just let it be
Cent will be perma anyway
makes cents
probably might be better to wait for next sub bunch in perma

Are you sirius now
She will spook you more often than you think 
I wouldn't bet pulling centaur without rate up... Its going to be an Abercrombie ver 2.0
Aber is a Myth
aber is heavy only?
A legendary build
yeah
ye
fuck
she's even rarer than an SSR
who roll heavy lol
It should be in most limiteds, like sussex
X__x
i got enough sussex for 3 mlb during events
I just realize baltimore looks like honkai impact char lol
Well, i need that gold I sub from perma too, might pull a bit for Cent

lol
my cubes are over 200, i can build for cent a bit
im willing to spend 100 cubes for cent
My cubes are down to 100

my 18 cubes + 💳 will take care of centaur :(
No bully wallet-kun
well
maff shows 63.6 % of getting centaur
or else I'd quit the game

xD

when u spend 100 cubes
Missing Abercrombie is already hard for me to accept... Missing a limited would result to quitting... so NO
I still miss denver
then how was it if you spend 400 cubes
we getting Avrora on anniversary right?
good
400 cubes is only 98%
cos i spent 400+ cubes on back to back events (ykkz/nagato)
wow feelsgood to be on top 2%
welp
i counted 400 pulls, not cubes 

lmao
xD
either way its crazy 
yeah, 200 pulls 98.2
now im stingy on pulling for non meta botes 

centaur come to me
How to
an elf?
NO U
dont really care abt elves but shes fine 

If she was a half horse that would be neat
yea another fetish covered 
I only care about onis 
That one that breaks 4th wall is a good oni

What a good line of hers: bruh, it’s okay if you drop this shitty mobbage, we are 2d and will always wait for you :3


oof
Ouch
=/
Who is better in PVP Amagi or Nyagato?
Nagato, Amagi and Hiryuu is pretty meta right now
there's a bunch of comms in pins
K need to lvl Hiryuu
nyagato sounds like akashi + nagato 
neptune sounds like deutchland
Tfw no one is moving up
for some reason

ppl not active here knows me somehow
in avrora pvp

ppl know im a sandbagger
its bad when they know
rename yourself
nah infamity will die fast anyways
ill go out this season anyways
in fact i already rushed some points
so wtv
Lurkers 

They will haunt you
Oh right I forgot to upload this yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJF3Esv-xcE&feature=youtu.be
@ionic magnet
(And ofc it didn't record the sound.....
)
He should use aur instead of bel
Would be interesting to see if it can kill vang on defense
speaking of hiryuu i started putting rwg on her instead of beaver just for fun
not sure if hit affects planes but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yuubari is removed when she doesn't exist yet 
@midnight heron hit affects planes
lads
how do I live
with 3 b2b events
CANT SKIP CENT
pls god of gacha, give me cent in 10 builds

Are we memeing daxam again

I saw hiryuu slayer
Oh no, I slept in and might only get 1 bonus match in 
dats half a dollar
cheap
Lmao, ryuu's ryusseis critted and almost deleted Nyaga at one fell swoop. took 85-90% HP, shelling done rest
15k damage, Amagi still mvp 
I think im gonna get a lotta points from this

xD
Well, it's yet very far from cap at this point
cap was what 1k?
And 10 tix still not fixed
top 100 filled with 500+


Is this season doomed as well?


Too early to tell
On CLs, is it toolbox bulge or evasion aux bulge?
if you use a CA, they will appreciate a rudder xD
xD
maybe Baltimore will be pvp friendly


if only their class buff was better =/
nicegurl and badgurl

Well, if their class had second DPS
tho there 2 gunboats with fp timed buff

cube burning hype
my coins are not ready at all
ive been doing free research a lot, climbed back to 66k
im not even gonna roll for it

im laugh if someone does hundred rolls and doesnt get it
then miss ships in uss and anniv

i have qe 

i wonder whats that approaching storm event is
is that the uss event
but no new ships yet 
there 4 uss ships
they tweeted baltimore though
and we know new jersey was in the event irl
;)
iowa time
yea which is weird since theyre giving us new event already
new jercy, mighty mo and south dakotas
Chains on BB are more of SD class, but she is loli...

easy t0 on CN tierlists cus w13
and 2 aa gun slots

big meme
we can just make double aa gun slots a thing now
Seattle and ARs
xD
or
she gets a bb/aa gun slot
but if she takes double bb guns lower efficiency

double the guns, double the missing!
eh they will probably give her some barrage to go with the scythe
not like us used bbs for shelling for most of the war anyways
CIWbote

helicopter gunners for cv dps mode when

like sirens ;)
laser BB gun when






phoenix in list again
no u

Didn't want to verify my phone number so I was waiting out the "temporary" ban. This chat is boring without Daxam here anyways so I didn't feel like I needed to come back anytime soon.
But I heard yall talkin shit, plus I need to flex my 120 Centaur soon anyways so I'm back now. 
temp ban? nani
temporary my ass. its been like 2 weeks and they still havent lifted it.
I'm gonna try and 120 Centaur before 3H comes out.
oh thats what that pop out is all about
shouldn't have use hms meta then 
If you had a role before the ban, you were exempt.
The only role i had was pvp
Didnt need to verify anyways
oh thats weird af
Weird indeed. Perhaps your number has been previously verified from something before?
I dont think so. Never verified my number with discord
HMS "meta" hasn't been a thing since like 2018 lol. I raise and oath my HMS ships for fun to see how well they do against the meta because I like them, but that doesn't mean I don't have a 120 namagi cancer ready at the helm.
besides, its more fun to flex 120 Vicctorious in my defense fleet than spreading cancer.
just recently finish my cancer team
not like i am using them anyhow
just foxes them down for fast clear
I actually tried foxes amagi against namagiryuu before 120 update like you said and they actually had decent winrates.
pretty fuckin sad that foxes amagi is better than foxes nagato
useless role seen not like they going to fix all the bug anyway

don't even know why the beta anyway?
so is the new event our Anni ? 
supposed to be made for en
Taihoe/Essex is anni.l
I remember some veteran saying that each server had different anni
like ISSS was the first for CN and other got it like a normal event
diff anni time
and so Tiehoe/Essex
anni has always been taihou essex
aight
just that the time are diff for each server
jp had nagato rerun with anniv
cn had bismarck event with anniv
this year btw
iirc
gp got 3 limited pools
btw
i expect en to have two pools

gp?
wasn't taihou in limited pull tho?
so i doubt they going to double dip taihou + new event
so 1 is in special the other is limit?

bigger problem is gold anyways
gold whaling > cubes whaling

We can't play this game anymore but
Can we still be friends? 
Ak don't got pvp


i don wanna play it

still waiting for AL guild/faction wars
devs when?

haha bully spotted


it's fine we'll boot nagato once yamato comes out
because all the ijn flags need flag slot probably
xD
what would be the reaction of AL community if the devs made a "trap" shipgirl? 
We already have z1
oof
never
its just

hope the devs will compensate us alll with free YUUBARI on mail 
the amount of copy paste of JP CN is too damn high
is like they don't care about AL anymore with the golden goose AK

Maybe they're just busy preparing the next event
unless that event going to be bug free
Can you make up for a few losses/missed exercises with sandbagging or is sandbagging purely to minmax a little extra score?
I want top 50 at least I guess
Tryna hit gensui once and then I wont care anymore
top 50 eos?
Just for the rank reward
well if you want gensui on avrora then yes you will need to sand bag
I'm pretty new the PvP thing. What exactly is sandbagging?
You get score based on the difference in score between you and the guy you fight
oohhh sandbagging that's Stella's expertise
wait for ppl to do their tix then fight them to gain bonus point
Sandbagging is about "abusing" this by letting others use their exercises first
And then beating then for more score
Its pretty luck based though and you might lose more score than you'll gain 
(From missing fights)
in order for you to gain more score you and the opponent must have at least 35 point difference. You gain this most of the time by letting other player consume all their attacks first.
Im at 575 score rn having used all exercises but losing one. Is that still average or below average? Sandbagged a few and took only leftmost
and yes you don't consume all your attacks. You always have a remaining 5 until the last day of the season.
exception may happen when score difference of you and your opponent has that opportunity for you to gain from him then you use it
Yea I always fuck up and miss a bunch of fights so nowadays I sandbag "when possible" but try to finish all my exercises before the end of the day
Hmmm I see.. so it is still kinda random then if either you get the extra or not then?
not totally random, what he meant by that is
its random in a way that you'll get an opponent that has not met the require point gap for you to gain from it
it is kinda random on whether you got rusher on your list or not
but most of the time you will
question is how much bonus you can get out of them
its on the PIN
pinned post if you look at the points chart per day
you should be at least meeting 2-3 or better yet 4 of your daily attack to have some bonus
I tried reading the pins before but it all seems sorta confusing to me. I do PvP here and there. Lol I get the points I need for the Merit store if it has a cube or something in it.. otherwise eventually building enough points for a long while for a Purin

sandbag - you wait for other players to rush all their attacks
Sandbagginb 
^ dat
its all about consistency
Gensui is the highest tier rank, yes?
rng doesnt matter much
also it helps if you knew the people who sandbag so you could always skip those MOFOS or maybe ask for their permission if they can move :) which unlikely will happen because "NO U"
top 10 needs a little bit of rng
Gensui is the highest rank
Ive been consecuvtive "every other season" because I take a break every other season
lol
albeit its also not abuse
its the proper way to do pvp
blame the game mechanic not the player

I wish they revamp PvP to something more better sigh
Don't mind me, taking all this in. Lol 
first of all are you in Avrora?
Yes I am
damn son... feelsbadman
welcome to Avrora's hell hole tryharduuur no peasant realm
Also server matters for how high you can go
Lol. Guessing it's just harder in that server, being the oldest one and more knowledgeable
And which sandbagger drops out
im out this season
sandbagging = check your rank vs left most opponent
if their rank is around 500+ of yours = will have bonus

New event = low scores
So what is the meta? I'm guessing Nagato and foxes? And IJN front?
Nagato/amagi/hiryuu
here is your meta list not updated but still relevant
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BglmSOaD1ec8zc6bKwiItf2OcQueoRNxF3UGzlQnHBU/edit?usp=sharing
With yukikaze and juneau core
Why Hiryuu?
because she's freaking somewhat immortal
15 secs of invinciblity
That lets her shoot again
yeah that title goes to stupid no life neet Famine
I never ever used her even in PVE
hiryuu has an amazing ratio of EHP to damage
She is your free reset
and a grace period just in case you arent paying 100% attention
since she invulns
xD
I'm a little confuckled since wouldn't Enty be the same case?
Enty is only 8 secs on airstrike
well no not entirely
Hiryuu is when she is about to die
hiryuu is 100% reliable on trigger timing
aka when she would die
you nope out
enty is
when she attacks
she also defends
aka not everyone attacks when she does
she only trolls people who attack during her attack
which is basically no one atm

there are so many potent defensive abilities that proc after 20 seconds
and all the good ships benefit from attacking ASAP
What kiro is saying that most of the time the invul on enty isnt that great as its uses are limited
While hiryuu is anytime
its funny how we could ultimately destroy hiryuu at 1st salvo now a days... It would be more efficient with warspite kai... sooo cliché obviously going to be next meta....
basically pvp is about denying enemy their defense
while keeping your own ehp as high as possible
this means Avoid Defensive Cooldowns
or mitigate them
or just build as much EHP as possible and pray enemy dps isnt too high
So Nagato/Hiryuu/Amagi can destroy anyone? Or is that just for your "defense" team?
Destory anyone
you can use it as offense aswell
def team only matter if you want eos rank 1
on average
The winrate with the right equips is like 90% or more
it does shit on normal day
also on off you can use whatever comp in pins and still win
question is how much reset you need for each comp
big chance of losing if you're not using the same fleet. But you can also counter it with something diff like Nagato, Amagi, Monarch. I can have any hiryuu to trigger her final counter skill at first salvo
So Yukikaze/ Juneau/ and maybe Jintsuu for front or?
I am working on Monarch at the moment.
Yukikaze Juneau then its up to you
VG are fixed for YKK and jesus
yup last slot is mostly for tank
3 slot are flex for anything
You can even use sheiffield
back line is whatever
Backline yiu really want amagi for the debuffs
Hiryuu is only pvp only so it might be harder to level her up
For pve purposes
just a note don't use Monrach until you have her at Dev 30 specially when you are battling top tier players coz it will just disappoint you. You will win from time to time but I'm telling you now its far of a big difference when you have her at Dev 30. You're better of using another ship that is Lv120 instead like hiryuu or maybe something else
Dont bother with pr in general if you dont have the resources
^ dat
until WS kai come that is
I can't wait to have my Sanrui reach dev 30 so I can flaunt my Dev 30 monarch along with Sanrui and make it difficult for Hiryuu user to match me 😂

until then won't be using Monarch for def so every casual plebs will be surprised and cucked .
Ws already pushed out in jp and cn
Would Jintsuu/Sendai be a good match as much as Yukikaze/Juneau?
Like are they close in rank I suppose?
hmm squishy
Or just like naw Yuki and June still would fuck them?
just go Jintsu Aurora then be Fox Fleet instead
Ws is pushed out by a dev 15 azuma
ykkz+jun is just on a different tier than any other VGs 
that is a long, expensive investment
Sendai jintsuu isnt that great
I see.
well, ykk would be similar to other backline cover ships if she didnt have lucky ship
xD
like fortune would be better at that point
Sometimes they wreck me so I thought maybe they were like around the same level with YKkz/Jun
key word
It might be your team
I said sometimes since I don't play PvP much and I don't always get them/go against them
yeah but torp VGs are rng heavy in general so 
I didn't know that so keep in mind I'm basically a PvP noob Lol
and even moreso if they are using oxytorps 
Dont listen to kiro. He uses sara retro
lmao
I pretty much for the longest time just used my main fleet in PvE so everyone was just max level and everything.. then eventually I switched Amagi for Warspite in my PvP team
Wot
oh, dont ever swap out amagi
I meant Warspite for Amagi
oh ok
My bad. Lol
Amagi is actually good in pve
I think she is good in both. I suppose
makes team more durable
good is an understatement
bb stats but takes up bc slot
True
15% eva rate is op
only bad at aa but that is just ch12 and 13 so whatever xD
I still use her in ch 12 full auto
So my guess is I'll be running a Amagi/Nagato/Hiyruu and Yukikaze/Juneau and third will probably either be Aurora or Jintsuu.
Why vestal when you can use your favorite grm collector akashi
Do you have like belfast ?
Yeah. I do

Well depends if you want to invest in her
I still use her and all in PvP. Lol Just thought maybe someone would be better in PvP than her.
Generally they all do about the same thing
ijn is forever
Tank hits and try to live as long as possible
Belfast makes akagi kaga teams easy
im sure someone could make a mathematical proof of ehp to damage output
Hmm then maybe Belfast would just stay.
Has a decent 50/50 against other frontliners
I'm going to need a lot of leveling and moneyz to upgrade everyone. My Nagato has been sitting at 90 because I don't have the money to MLB her Lol
Too many SRs.. so little money
gonna be rough
Well then 
might want to avoid pvp dedicated boats
Yes. But I do have 0 cubes. 
Massachusetts event hit me hard(400+ish).. and wasted about 300+ for these subs
But all pvp boats can do pve stuff
But yeah I'll try to get into PvP more whenever I work on the meta team and have the gold to do so
Wtf is wrong with this season
I burned all my attempts and still out of top 100
Nani
I think KGV might be better than Monarch 
monarch needs extra glasses
;)
we need a 100 hit no evade radar
or something
ok like 50

super high power fire control

well at this point
i alrdy want a rainbow sg
to dodge more ambushes
if i use 2 bb, one has high perforamce raider/ shell and the other uses high stanadard fire control, is there room for using a second hig perforance raider?
wdym by high performance raider
Trash auto full clear fine
shell is only for kgv and bismarck tho
wait is that for pve
No , well not the main focus
then you shouldn't use AA radar and shell on nagato

better slap beaver/rudder/sg radar/hsfcr
Yea
Double rudder 
Honestly i drop all toolboxes
i dislike putting beaver on VG cos the effect is gone when the ship dies
Also run beaver on hiryuu
and its not like it will make a huge difference so i just put bulge/boiler/toolbox on them
backline benefits more from evasion
Huh
Dont u run torp bulge + rudder on sanrui
Also sanrui in pvp miss her shot all the time
I dont use her lol
The moment i killed someones sanrui in 10 secs i just stopped caring about her
sanrui just has a lot of hp
she isnt there to do damage
she's basically take belfast, give her 1 more speed and more hp
that's it
sometimes she does some damage
but she loses to torps
bulge or not
she's a damage over time ship
in a mode that is not friendly to damage over time
she gets murdered by big seven
murdered by ryuusei
murdered by amagi barrage cause lol medium armor
the only thing she doesnt lose to is conventional stall
imma try sanrui/aurora/juneau sometime
might be better
but gotta get aurora to 120
xD
also she really wants juneau lead
which can be risky
since with sanrui you want rudder/x
which means juneau is carrying pearl
so juneau has to survive long enough in lead position
aka really difficult
if roon and sanrui had like 7k hp like azuma they'd be fine probably
xD
but 5k is iffy
or maybe i need to oath her first but waiting for ring pack
xD
has anyone tried London Retro as mid vanguard?
Well you can try Louis mid
But usually it's lead Louis, and Louis used to counter Aurora
Lead Jun ofc just gets wrecked vs Aurora, and basically vs Aurora Sanrui is the best stall first-slot option (winning by default basically since everything else either also is hit hard by Aurora debuff or is slow speed and makes vanguard catch BB shells)
Otherwise vs non-Aurora Louis is just another stall ship with not much difference
Also iirc doesn't badge buff stay even if ship sinks?
aurora still gets sanrui killed by virtue of sinking juneau early denying her lots of hp xD
Well it's the best you can do vs it, overall
oh yeah
And mid Jun vs Aurora doesn't get evaped that easily
oh she does
Lead Jun though just snap
oh relative yeah
Ehh, idk about that
I've been running Aurora and mid Jun isn't an easy kill
Usually sinks late enough to get most of heal off, if the vanguard setup is good
oh, whenever i fight you
juneau dies pretty fast
just a big seven away from insta death
Well that's cause lead Juneau 
Oh you mean Jun on your team
yeah xD
Wait how is mid jun a big7 away from death, unless your lead ship sinks too
Nagato big7 is linear, shouldn't hit mid ship much unless positioning is just right
big seven murders sanrui lol
Amagi on the other hand has the arcing shots and AP spray
Huh really? Sanrui can't even tank 1 Big7?
That's actually kinda surprising
unless you're lucky and get dem evades
it destroys her in lead
because she has that mid preference
xD
so what happens is usually
vs aurora is vanguard dies all same time or so
unless ykk clutches
im fairly certain sanrui has a move toward middle ai preference
=(
That's quite interesting
I suppose the difference in experience is the expectation diff of offense/defense
Cause it sure seems worse for me on offense as Aurora when there's Louis present
Theoretically it’s -20 points if you sandbag hard enough?
It's just -20 pts ignoring sandbag
With the extra sandbag from being behind I'd say it ends up being around -10 or so
im sure if i ran namagi/hiryuu id have 0 problems with aurora
;)
who caaares that vanguard dies
i dont even care
xD
eg just waste as many hits as possible
then lol hiryuu wins
Well actually losing vanguard fight in mirror Namayuu without a main fleet health advantage usually means a loss
Vanguard almost never loses though with the attacker advantages
xD
Why not kgv/cent/mon
Dunno if cent worth it if you can’t synch her with kgv
But maybe she does, if there is an aurora
I'm still using Hood KGV Monarch but will try cent 
cent will be an upgrade to ws either way so 
I believe she will give more than ws in killing enemy vang
But she also gives you a weakness to nagato’s barrage
Helena?











