#pvp

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sharp wing
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Oh, you mean fleet power

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tryhards

buoyant parrot
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T-T

sharp wing
fringe lotus
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If someone attacks me and I lose do I lose points?

sharp wing
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No

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def fleet totally irrelevant

fringe lotus
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So you can literally Yolo the defense fleet and it doesn't matter

sharp wing
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yes

midnight heron
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if they atk u and win ur ships get permadeath BuckySmug

vague token
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oh right

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i forgot planes cant be buffed mid flight

sharp wing
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Even in KC pvp is not that savage

buoyant parrot
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def fleet is use to stall lower rank players than you and sometimes used to be a bait for players to attack you sooner

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now you enter "sandbagging" guide.

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please contact @shy hazel

sharp wing
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Ohboi

fringe lotus
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People probably just farm me anyway since my power level is low

sharp wing
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don't make him step on that pass

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Cannot farm you, if you don't push

midnight heron
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depends on player honestly

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i wud farm someone with higher lvl ships for xp OwariWOKE

vague token
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xD

sharp wing
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I only farm thicc fleets

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Now we need Surc in pvp BuckySmug

buoyant parrot
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subs in PvP

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to have some spice

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lol!

sharp wing
vague token
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dax would kill us all

steep fog
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sub in pvp lmao

buoyant parrot
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lol

fringe lotus
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No more tickets guess it's time to sleep can play again in 12 hours lol

sharp wing
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no, we need sub vs sub

buoyant parrot
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I wouldn't mind 3 SSR sub of mine are 120

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not oathed tho

sharp wing
steep fog
sharp wing
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I'm not....

buoyant parrot
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DAMN YOUI!

sharp wing
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Bunny sub cost me 100 cubes...

buoyant parrot
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im not!

sharp wing
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fuck those elites...

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each event same shit

steep fog
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i gave up on iroha

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fuck this

sharp wing
lament lichen
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still have today lol

midnight heron
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still missing 2 subs and low on Coin from lb and shit

stark raft
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getting jebaited by subs BuckySmug

steep fog
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nah

buoyant parrot
steep fog
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rather ditch her

buoyant parrot
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yes I am ready to use my wallet to spam for centaur

steep fog
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for superior elf

sharp wing
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Savage

stark raft
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silly lolicons actually pulling for subs

buoyant parrot
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that's just how pathetic my cube stocks are.

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stupid subs...

steep fog
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13k gold

sharp wing
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That u-101 smug got me

lament lichen
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akashi doing work

buoyant parrot
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o she's doing her job right

sharp wing
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Hey, i need that I-56 to put new dress on

stark raft
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got iroha 2nd day and started doing light build again

buoyant parrot
sharp wing
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Well, i got all at least...

midnight heron
steep fog
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I got spooked by the rest of the subs

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got 2 copies each

ionic magnet
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i just did daily 1 pull and got 4/5 subs

steep fog
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no iroha

ionic magnet
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acceptable i guess

steep fog
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fuck

sharp wing
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now get 5/5

ionic magnet
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no way EntyLUL

steep fog
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hmm

sharp wing
steep fog
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should I try 5 builds

buoyant parrot
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does anyone know if Abercrombie is along with centaur event?

steep fog
ionic magnet
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well i dont have coins anyway even if i wanted

sharp wing
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I was about same, then 100 cubes for last elite sub

stark raft
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Surcouf strong enough for weekly anyway MutsukiStare

sharp wing
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Surc is thicc enough for anything BuckySmug

midnight heron
sharp wing
midnight heron
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itsjustaprankbro

sharp wing
steep fog
sharp wing
steep fog
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so I will get enough gold for 50 builds

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if I dont get centaur im gonna sudoku

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stark raft
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gonna daily build cent, like always HoodSip

sharp wing
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inb4 double limited

buoyant parrot
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Most likely my plan... Just daily build then pull hard on the last day if I don't get her before then

sharp wing
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Or just let it be

stark raft
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Cent will be perma anyway

sharp wing
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wait for next sub build

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Cent will be there

midnight heron
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makes cents

sharp wing
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probably might be better to wait for next sub bunch in perma

stark raft
sharp wing
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Are you sirius now

steep fog
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pulling cent without rate up lmao

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goodluck on that

sharp wing
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She will spook you more often than you think BuckySmug

steep fog
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thinking im gonna get spooked with dace

buoyant parrot
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I wouldn't bet pulling centaur without rate up... Its going to be an Abercrombie ver 2.0

sharp wing
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Aber is a Myth

steep fog
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aber is heavy only?

sharp wing
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A legendary build

buoyant parrot
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yeah

sharp wing
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ye

steep fog
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fuck

buoyant parrot
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she's even rarer than an SSR

steep fog
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who roll heavy lol

sharp wing
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It should be in most limiteds, like sussex

steep fog
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hey

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I got 5 sussex last event

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lmao

buoyant parrot
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X__x

sharp wing
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i got enough sussex for 3 mlb during events

steep fog
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I just realize baltimore looks like honkai impact char lol

sharp wing
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Well, i need that gold I sub from perma too, might pull a bit for Cent

steep fog
buoyant parrot
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lol

vague token
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my cubes are over 200, i can build for cent a bit

steep fog
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im willing to spend 100 cubes for cent

sharp wing
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My cubes are down to 100

steep fog
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ez maff 50x2%

sharp wing
lament lichen
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359 cubes

buoyant parrot
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my 18 cubes + 💳 will take care of centaur :(

sharp wing
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No bully wallet-kun

buoyant parrot
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I have no choice

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the sub event drained me hard

sharp wing
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It almost drained my soul

steep fog
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well

sharp wing
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I was afraid it will be my 1st missed limited ship

buoyant parrot
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exactly

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and I can't afford to have that feeling

steep fog
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maff shows 63.6 % of getting centaur

buoyant parrot
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or else I'd quit the game

steep fog
vague token
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xD

sharp wing
steep fog
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when u spend 100 cubes

buoyant parrot
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Missing Abercrombie is already hard for me to accept... Missing a limited would result to quitting... so NO

sharp wing
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I still miss denver

steep fog
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double it for 87%

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spend 460 cubes for 99% LeanderXD

sharp wing
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50 cubes is 63%

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with rate up

ionic magnet
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then how was it if you spend 400 cubes

buoyant parrot
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we getting Avrora on anniversary right?

sharp wing
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Should

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JP got it during anniv

buoyant parrot
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good

steep fog
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400 cubes is only 98%

ionic magnet
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cos i spent 400+ cubes on back to back events (ykkz/nagato)

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wow feelsgood to be on top 2%

steep fog
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welp

sharp wing
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isn't 400 99.9%?

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with rate up

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more like 99.96

ionic magnet
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welp so 0.04% and i got it twice

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lul

steep fog
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huh

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binomial with 2% chance and 200 trials with 1 or more success should be 98%

sharp wing
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i counted 400 pulls, not cubes BuckySmug

ionic magnet
steep fog
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lmao

sharp wing
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xD

ionic magnet
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either way its crazy EntyLUL

sharp wing
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yeah, 200 pulls 98.2

ionic magnet
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now im stingy on pulling for non meta botes WarShrug

steep fog
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lets see whether im on the luckier 63.6%

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50 pulls ikuzoooooooooooo

sharp wing
steep fog
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centaur come to me

sharp wing
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How to Albait an elf?

stark raft
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you already sealed your fate

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akashi heard you

steep fog
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NO U

sharp wing
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Imagine Cent was... a centaur

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Elf is for plebs

red nexus
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Imagime cent was... a cent...

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...urion

ionic magnet
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dont really care abt elves but shes fine BuckySmug

steep fog
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centaur should have been Sagittarius gold saint

sharp wing
steep fog
stark raft
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Cent dropping swordfishes of death while saying Senpai BuckySmug

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such a good ship

coral wren
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If she was a half horse that would be neat

ionic magnet
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yea another fetish covered BuckySmug

sharp wing
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I only care about onis UniSip

coral wren
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That one that breaks 4th wall is a good oni

sharp wing
coral wren
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What a good line of hers: bruh, it’s okay if you drop this shitty mobbage, we are 2d and will always wait for you :3

sharp wing
fierce field
vague token
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oof

coral wren
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Ouch

vague token
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=/

hasty musk
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Who is better in PVP Amagi or Nyagato?

fierce field
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Nagato, Amagi and Hiryuu is pretty meta right now

hasty musk
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I use foxes + Amagi, should I switch to Nyagato?

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Amagi is 120 lvl

fierce field
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there's a bunch of comms in pins

hasty musk
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K need to lvl Hiryuu

midnight heron
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nyagato sounds like akashi + nagato MutsukiCurse

cerulean estuary
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neptune sounds like deutchland

lean phoenix
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Tfw no one is moving up

shy hazel
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for some reason

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ppl not active here knows me somehow

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in avrora pvp

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ppl know im a sandbagger

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its bad when they know

coral wren
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rename yourself

shy hazel
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nah infamity will die fast anyways

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ill go out this season anyways

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in fact i already rushed some points

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so wtv

sharp wing
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Lurkers BuckySmug

midnight heron
sharp wing
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They will haunt you

elder crane
coral wren
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He should use aur instead of bel

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Would be interesting to see if it can kill vang on defense

midnight heron
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speaking of hiryuu i started putting rwg on her instead of beaver just for fun

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not sure if hit affects planes but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

coral wren
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Or sanrui EmileSip

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No qe anyway

elder crane
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Yuubari is removed when she doesn't exist yet LeanderXD

lean phoenix
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@midnight heron hit affects planes

steep fog
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lads

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how do I live

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with 3 b2b events

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CANT SKIP CENT

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pls god of gacha, give me cent in 10 builds

sharp wing
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What even is Yuubari

lament lichen
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Are we memeing daxam again

vague token
lament lichen
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I saw hiryuu slayer

sharp wing
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Akashi the gem slayer

shell heron
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Oh no, I slept in and might only get 1 bonus match in FumizukiStare

trim horizon
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19 cubes

stark raft
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50 cubes

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50 Cent

midnight heron
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dats half a dollar

sharp wing
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cheap

midnight heron
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ya

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oh wait actually no its lex

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these guys in lex r too lax BuckySmug

sharp wing
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Lmao, ryuu's ryusseis critted and almost deleted Nyaga at one fell swoop. took 85-90% HP, shelling done rest

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15k damage, Amagi still mvp UniSip

wicked rivet
stark raft
wicked rivet
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Too bad I missed almost 3 whole days woopsComfyKek

vague token
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xD

sharp wing
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Well, it's yet very far from cap at this point

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cap was what 1k?

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And 10 tix still not fixed

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top 100 filled with 500+

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Is this season doomed as well?

vague token
lament lichen
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Too early to tell

merry edge
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On CLs, is it toolbox bulge or evasion aux bulge?

sharp wing
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tool+bulge

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one of CLs pearls

vague token
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if you use a CA, they will appreciate a rudder xD

sharp wing
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They will unlife

vague token
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xD

sharp wing
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buki is beast on the water

vague token
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maybe Baltimore will be pvp friendly

sharp wing
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bla-bla-more

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Edgymore

vague token
sharp wing
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A bad schoolgirl

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"after school"

vague token
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she can hang out with school minne

sharp wing
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I say truth only

vague token
sharp wing
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She can hang out with Astoria

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They make nice duo

vague token
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if only their class buff was better =/

sharp wing
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nicegurl and badgurl

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Well, if their class had second DPS

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tho there 2 gunboats with fp timed buff

trim horizon
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list AkashiSleep

sharp wing
ionic magnet
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wow maint later

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centaur hype BuckySmug

vague token
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cube burning hype

ionic magnet
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my coins are not ready at all

vague token
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ive been doing free research a lot, climbed back to 66k

shy hazel
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im not even gonna roll for it

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im laugh if someone does hundred rolls and doesnt get it

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then miss ships in uss and anniv

ionic magnet
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to be fair cent is better than anniv ships so WarShrug

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and uss ships will prolly be a meme

shy hazel
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inb4 nagato tier hidden bb

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and u miss nagato again

ionic magnet
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i have qe BuckySmug

shy hazel
sharp wing
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QE usable after anniv skin BuckySmug

ionic magnet
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i wonder whats that approaching storm event is

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is that the uss event

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but no new ships yet Thinkpitz

sharp wing
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there 4 uss ships

vague token
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just tell us who the bb is xD

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give us a goooood one

ionic magnet
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i mean on the patchnotes

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no mention of balimore or smth

vague token
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they tweeted baltimore though

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and we know new jersey was in the event irl

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;)

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iowa time

ionic magnet
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yea which is weird since theyre giving us new event already

sharp wing
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new jercy, mighty mo and south dakotas

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Chains on BB are more of SD class, but she is loli...

vague token
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inb4 aa skills

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reeee

ionic magnet
vague token
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hey we heard you liked north Carolina

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so we gave you a bb with 500 aa

ionic magnet
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easy t0 on CN tierlists cus w13

vague token
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and 2 aa gun slots

ionic magnet
vague token
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big meme

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we can just make double aa gun slots a thing now

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Seattle and ARs

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xD

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or

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she gets a bb/aa gun slot

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but if she takes double bb guns lower efficiency

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double the guns, double the missing!

shy hazel
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historically if its nj

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shes a defensive aa ship

vague token
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eh they will probably give her some barrage to go with the scythe

ionic magnet
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give her the ability to shoot down BB shells while theyre on air

vague token
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not like us used bbs for shelling for most of the war anyways

sharp wing
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CIWbote

vague token
sharp wing
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BBs are CVs escort BuckySmug

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Iowa

vague token
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helicopter gunners for cv dps mode when

sharp wing
vague token
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like sirens ;)

ionic magnet
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laser BB gun when

sharp wing
vague token
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purifier recruitable when

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BIG LASER

sharp wing
ionic magnet
sharp wing
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This is not fate

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No traps

vague token
sharp wing
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You gotta set yrself on fire

vague token
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ill pass

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i have fire emblem in 3 days

sharp wing
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never was into fe

vague token
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that is fair

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i like the sprite work from ye olde GBA ones xD

wicked rivet
trim horizon
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ChaserSmug phoenix in list again

sharp wing
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In mine too

shy hazel
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i never see phoenix here now

vague token
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=/

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so many have fallen

lament lichen
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He fell

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But not as hard as daxam

hot creek
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no u

shy hazel
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jebaited

ionic magnet
hot creek
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Didn't want to verify my phone number so I was waiting out the "temporary" ban. This chat is boring without Daxam here anyways so I didn't feel like I needed to come back anytime soon.

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But I heard yall talkin shit, plus I need to flex my 120 Centaur soon anyways so I'm back now. UniFlex

ionic magnet
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temp ban? nani

hot creek
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temporary my ass. its been like 2 weeks and they still havent lifted it.

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I'm gonna try and 120 Centaur before 3H comes out.

ionic magnet
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oh thats what that pop out is all about

finite valve
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shouldn't have use hms meta then AngryQueen

ionic magnet
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weird i havent verified it but i can send msgs

hot creek
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If you had a role before the ban, you were exempt.

lament lichen
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The only role i had was pvp

hot creek
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"pvp" is not a role, w0t?

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You're a whitename, just like me.

lament lichen
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Didnt need to verify anyways

ionic magnet
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oh thats weird af

hot creek
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Weird indeed. Perhaps your number has been previously verified from something before?

lament lichen
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I dont think so. Never verified my number with discord

hot creek
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HMS "meta" hasn't been a thing since like 2018 lol. I raise and oath my HMS ships for fun to see how well they do against the meta because I like them, but that doesn't mean I don't have a 120 namagi cancer ready at the helm.

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besides, its more fun to flex 120 Vicctorious in my defense fleet than spreading cancer.

finite valve
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just recently finish my cancer team

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not like i am using them anyhow

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just foxes them down for fast clear

hot creek
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I actually tried foxes amagi against namagiryuu before 120 update like you said and they actually had decent winrates.

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pretty fuckin sad that foxes amagi is better than foxes nagato

finite valve
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survivability > dps

shy hazel
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i have beta tester role

finite valve
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useless role seen not like they going to fix all the bug anyway

shy hazel
finite valve
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don't even know why the beta anyway?

trim horizon
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so is the new event our Anni ? UnicornFused

finite valve
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you wish

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major event before anni

shy hazel
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supposed to be made for en

hot creek
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Taihoe/Essex is anni.l

shy hazel
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dont forget my waifu

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teme chan

finite valve
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we still got around 3 weeks till anni

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enough time for 1 major event

trim horizon
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I remember some veteran saying that each server had different anni

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like ISSS was the first for CN and other got it like a normal event

finite valve
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diff anni time

trim horizon
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and so Tiehoe/Essex

finite valve
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anni has always been taihou essex

trim horizon
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UnicornFused aight

finite valve
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just that the time are diff for each server

shy hazel
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jp had nagato rerun with anniv

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cn had bismarck event with anniv

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this year btw

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iirc

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gp got 3 limited pools

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btw

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i expect en to have two pools

finite valve
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gp?

shy hazel
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oops

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jp

finite valve
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wasn't taihou in limited pull tho?

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so i doubt they going to double dip taihou + new event

shy hazel
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i mean other servers did it this year

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2 limited pools

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they dont combine them

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lol

finite valve
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so 1 is in special the other is limit?

shy hazel
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en maybe the same case

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no literally two limited tabs

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lol

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and mikasa in heavy

finite valve
shy hazel
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it was crazy event in jp

finite valve
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glad my cubes is in the 1k range

shy hazel
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bigger problem is gold anyways

finite valve
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gold whaling > cubes whaling

vague token
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i cant believe phoenixf finds us boring

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brutal

shy hazel
cerulean estuary
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We can't play this game anymore but
Can we still be friends? LaffeyDrink

vague token
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so we're all gonna be top pvp in arknights right?

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;)

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pvp tower defense

finite valve
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Ak don't got pvp

vague token
finite valve
shy hazel
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i don wanna play it

vague token
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oof

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nvm im out

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xD

shy hazel
cerulean estuary
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still waiting for AL guild/faction wars

devs when?LongCryland

vague token
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when yamato comes out

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so ijn can have ANOTHER flagship

shy hazel
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when kiro stops using sara

finite valve
cerulean estuary
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haha bully spotted

vague token
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so... a few months?

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ill be swapping to essex

shy hazel
vague token
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if only i had hms ready id like to try london too

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xD

finite valve
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might change to waifu fleet once taihou come

vague token
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wish biscuit buffed all crit rate

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instead of just main weapon mount

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ree

shy hazel
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none but ijn can be supreme

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dont hate the ijn bias

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be one with it

vague token
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it's fine we'll boot nagato once yamato comes out

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because all the ijn flags need flag slot probably

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xD

shy hazel
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ymt has never been a good flagship

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a selfish oil hotel

vague token
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xD

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inb4 gains SHS skill

ionic magnet
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the mystery ship actually has her legs bent

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so p sure shes not a loli

cerulean estuary
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what would be the reaction of AL community if the devs made a "trap" shipgirl? LaffeyDrink

waxen dawn
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We already have z1

vague token
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oof

finite valve
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since when did EN got her?

shy hazel
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never

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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its just

finite valve
shy hazel
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the devs dont even know what ships arent in en

cerulean estuary
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hope the devs will compensate us alll with free YUUBARI on mail LaffeyDrink

finite valve
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the amount of copy paste of JP CN is too damn high

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is like they don't care about AL anymore with the golden goose AK

waxen dawn
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Maybe they're just busy preparing the next event

finite valve
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unless that event going to be bug free

merry edge
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Can you make up for a few losses/missed exercises with sandbagging or is sandbagging purely to minmax a little extra score?

finite valve
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i ain't buying it tbh

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depend on what your goal is

merry edge
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I want top 50 at least I guess
Tryna hit gensui once and then I wont care anymore

finite valve
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top 50 eos?

merry edge
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Just for the rank reward

finite valve
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well if you want gensui on avrora then yes you will need to sand bag

grim belfry
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I'm pretty new the PvP thing. What exactly is sandbagging?

merry edge
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You get score based on the difference in score between you and the guy you fight

buoyant parrot
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oohhh sandbagging that's Stella's expertise

finite valve
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wait for ppl to do their tix then fight them to gain bonus point

merry edge
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Sandbagging is about "abusing" this by letting others use their exercises first

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And then beating then for more score

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Its pretty luck based though and you might lose more score than you'll gain EntyLUL

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(From missing fights)

buoyant parrot
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in order for you to gain more score you and the opponent must have at least 35 point difference. You gain this most of the time by letting other player consume all their attacks first.

merry edge
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Im at 575 score rn having used all exercises but losing one. Is that still average or below average? Sandbagged a few and took only leftmost

finite valve
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you don't do all your atk when sandbagging

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at most is 5/10

buoyant parrot
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and yes you don't consume all your attacks. You always have a remaining 5 until the last day of the season.

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exception may happen when score difference of you and your opponent has that opportunity for you to gain from him then you use it

merry edge
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Yea I always fuck up and miss a bunch of fights so nowadays I sandbag "when possible" but try to finish all my exercises before the end of the day

grim belfry
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Hmmm I see.. so it is still kinda random then if either you get the extra or not then?

buoyant parrot
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not totally random, what he meant by that is

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its random in a way that you'll get an opponent that has not met the require point gap for you to gain from it

finite valve
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it is kinda random on whether you got rusher on your list or not

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but most of the time you will

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question is how much bonus you can get out of them

buoyant parrot
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its on the PIN

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pinned post if you look at the points chart per day

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you should be at least meeting 2-3 or better yet 4 of your daily attack to have some bonus

grim belfry
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I tried reading the pins before but it all seems sorta confusing to me. I do PvP here and there. Lol I get the points I need for the Merit store if it has a cube or something in it.. otherwise eventually building enough points for a long while for a Purin

buoyant parrot
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well to sum up everything

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just sandbag

shy hazel
buoyant parrot
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sandbag - you wait for other players to rush all their attacks

lament lichen
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Sandbagginb AkachanSmug

shy hazel
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youll never miss gensui if u knoe even the lowest standard of sandbagging

buoyant parrot
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^ dat

shy hazel
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its all about consistency

grim belfry
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Gensui is the highest tier rank, yes?

shy hazel
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rng doesnt matter much

buoyant parrot
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also it helps if you knew the people who sandbag so you could always skip those MOFOS or maybe ask for their permission if they can move :) which unlikely will happen because "NO U"

shy hazel
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top 10 needs a little bit of rng

lament lichen
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Gensui is the highest rank

shy hazel
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especially top 1~3

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ive been in top 10 for 9 seasons regardlesz of luck

buoyant parrot
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Ive been consecuvtive "every other season" because I take a break every other season

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lol

shy hazel
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albeit its also not abuse

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its the proper way to do pvp

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blame the game mechanic not the player

buoyant parrot
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I wish they revamp PvP to something more better sigh

grim belfry
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Don't mind me, taking all this in. Lol ThinkZed

buoyant parrot
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first of all are you in Avrora?

shy hazel
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just be active here and tho shall learn

grim belfry
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Yes I am

buoyant parrot
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damn son... feelsbadman

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welcome to Avrora's hell hole tryharduuur no peasant realm

lament lichen
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Also server matters for how high you can go

grim belfry
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Lol. Guessing it's just harder in that server, being the oldest one and more knowledgeable

lament lichen
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And which sandbagger drops out

shy hazel
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im out this season

finite valve
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sandbagging = check your rank vs left most opponent
if their rank is around 500+ of yours = will have bonus

shy hazel
buoyant parrot
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same I'm kinda chilling out this season as usual :D

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be back on the next one

lament lichen
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New event = low scores

grim belfry
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So what is the meta? I'm guessing Nagato and foxes? And IJN front?

shy hazel
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check the pins

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its namaryuu anyways

lament lichen
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Nagato/amagi/hiryuu

buoyant parrot
lament lichen
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With yukikaze and juneau core

grim belfry
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Why Hiryuu?

shy hazel
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and hey

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dont call me sandbag master EntyLUL

buoyant parrot
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because she's freaking somewhat immortal

lament lichen
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15 secs of invinciblity

shy hazel
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im not even the most hardcore of sandbaggers

lament lichen
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That lets her shoot again

buoyant parrot
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yeah that title goes to stupid no life neet Famine

grim belfry
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I never ever used her even in PVE

vague token
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hiryuu has an amazing ratio of EHP to damage

lament lichen
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She is your free reset

vague token
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and a grace period just in case you arent paying 100% attention

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since she invulns

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xD

grim belfry
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I'm a little confuckled since wouldn't Enty be the same case?

lament lichen
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Enty is only 8 secs on airstrike

buoyant parrot
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well no not entirely

lament lichen
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Hiryuu is when she is about to die

vague token
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hiryuu is 100% reliable on trigger timing

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aka when she would die

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you nope out

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enty is

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when she attacks

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she also defends

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aka not everyone attacks when she does

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she only trolls people who attack during her attack

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which is basically no one atm

grim belfry
vague token
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there are so many potent defensive abilities that proc after 20 seconds

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and all the good ships benefit from attacking ASAP

lament lichen
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What kiro is saying that most of the time the invul on enty isnt that great as its uses are limited

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While hiryuu is anytime

vague token
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even during wasd meta

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everyone swapped to 410

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then enty wasnt a problem

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xD

buoyant parrot
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its funny how we could ultimately destroy hiryuu at 1st salvo now a days... It would be more efficient with warspite kai... sooo cliché obviously going to be next meta....

vague token
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basically pvp is about denying enemy their defense

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while keeping your own ehp as high as possible

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this means Avoid Defensive Cooldowns

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or mitigate them

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or just build as much EHP as possible and pray enemy dps isnt too high

grim belfry
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So Nagato/Hiryuu/Amagi can destroy anyone? Or is that just for your "defense" team?

lament lichen
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Destory anyone

buoyant parrot
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you can use it as offense aswell

vague token
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that main fleet destroys anyone

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xD

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and everyone

finite valve
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def team only matter if you want eos rank 1

vague token
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on average

lament lichen
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The winrate with the right equips is like 90% or more

finite valve
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it does shit on normal day

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also on off you can use whatever comp in pins and still win

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question is how much reset you need for each comp

buoyant parrot
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big chance of losing if you're not using the same fleet. But you can also counter it with something diff like Nagato, Amagi, Monarch. I can have any hiryuu to trigger her final counter skill at first salvo

grim belfry
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So Yukikaze/ Juneau/ and maybe Jintsuu for front or?

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I am working on Monarch at the moment.

buoyant parrot
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Yukikaze Juneau then its up to you

lament lichen
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Belfast/neptune/ saint louis

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Is the general 3 inthe last slot

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Aka tank

finite valve
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VG are fixed for YKK and jesus

buoyant parrot
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yup last slot is mostly for tank

finite valve
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3 slot are flex for anything

lament lichen
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You can even use sheiffield

finite valve
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back line is whatever

lament lichen
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Backline yiu really want amagi for the debuffs

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Hiryuu is only pvp only so it might be harder to level her up

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For pve purposes

buoyant parrot
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just a note don't use Monrach until you have her at Dev 30 specially when you are battling top tier players coz it will just disappoint you. You will win from time to time but I'm telling you now its far of a big difference when you have her at Dev 30. You're better of using another ship that is Lv120 instead like hiryuu or maybe something else

lament lichen
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Dont bother with pr in general if you dont have the resources

buoyant parrot
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^ dat

lament lichen
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They are long term projects

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And more or less a sidegrade to our current ssr

finite valve
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until WS kai come that is

buoyant parrot
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I can't wait to have my Sanrui reach dev 30 so I can flaunt my Dev 30 monarch along with Sanrui and make it difficult for Hiryuu user to match me 😂

finite valve
buoyant parrot
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until then won't be using Monarch for def so every casual plebs will be surprised and cucked .

lament lichen
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Ws already pushed out in jp and cn

grim belfry
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Would Jintsuu/Sendai be a good match as much as Yukikaze/Juneau?

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Like are they close in rank I suppose?

buoyant parrot
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hmm squishy

grim belfry
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Or just like naw Yuki and June still would fuck them?

buoyant parrot
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just go Jintsu Aurora then be Fox Fleet instead

finite valve
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replace with fdg?

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still a long way for EN lel

lament lichen
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Ws is pushed out by a dev 15 azuma

vague token
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fdg is waaaay out for us

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much less fdg AND azuma in namagi core

ionic magnet
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ykkz+jun is just on a different tier than any other VGs EntyLUL

vague token
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that is a long, expensive investment

lament lichen
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Sendai jintsuu isnt that great

grim belfry
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I see.

vague token
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well, ykk would be similar to other backline cover ships if she didnt have lucky ship

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xD

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like fortune would be better at that point

grim belfry
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Sometimes they wreck me so I thought maybe they were like around the same level with YKkz/Jun

vague token
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key word

lament lichen
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It might be your team

vague token
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sometimes

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torps are iffy and hurt teams that require long fights

grim belfry
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I said sometimes since I don't play PvP much and I don't always get them/go against them

vague token
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aka meeee

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my team is ultra weak to rushdown xD

ionic magnet
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yeah but torp VGs are rng heavy in general so WarShrug

grim belfry
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I didn't know that so keep in mind I'm basically a PvP noob Lol

ionic magnet
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and even moreso if they are using oxytorps BuckySmug

lament lichen
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Dont listen to kiro. He uses sara retro

ionic magnet
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lmao

vague token
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im being bullied halp

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xD

grim belfry
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I pretty much for the longest time just used my main fleet in PvE so everyone was just max level and everything.. then eventually I switched Amagi for Warspite in my PvP team

steep fog
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Wot

vague token
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oh, dont ever swap out amagi

grim belfry
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I meant Warspite for Amagi

vague token
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oh ok

grim belfry
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My bad. Lol

lament lichen
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Amagi is actually good in pve

grim belfry
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I think she is good in both. I suppose

vague token
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makes team more durable

ionic magnet
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good is an understatement

vague token
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bb stats but takes up bc slot

grim belfry
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True

vague token
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huge main fleet durability boost

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cl gun on a bc

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god tier

steep fog
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15% eva rate is op

vague token
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only bad at aa but that is just ch12 and 13 so whatever xD

lament lichen
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I still use her in ch 12 full auto

vague token
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i suppose triple air radar vestal probably makes it fine

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xD

grim belfry
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So my guess is I'll be running a Amagi/Nagato/Hiyruu and Yukikaze/Juneau and third will probably either be Aurora or Jintsuu.

lament lichen
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Why vestal when you can use your favorite grm collector akashi

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Do you have like belfast ?

grim belfry
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Yeah. I do

vague token
lament lichen
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Well depends if you want to invest in her

grim belfry
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I still use her and all in PvP. Lol Just thought maybe someone would be better in PvP than her.

lament lichen
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Generally they all do about the same thing

vague token
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ijn is forever

lament lichen
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Tank hits and try to live as long as possible

steep fog
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Belfast to breeze through the fox matchup

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Not like hiryuu doesnt own them already

lament lichen
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Belfast makes akagi kaga teams easy

vague token
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im sure someone could make a mathematical proof of ehp to damage output

grim belfry
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Hmm then maybe Belfast would just stay.

lament lichen
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Has a decent 50/50 against other frontliners

vague token
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to illustrate that namaryuu is the best

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xD

grim belfry
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I'm going to need a lot of leveling and moneyz to upgrade everyone. My Nagato has been sitting at 90 because I don't have the money to MLB her Lol

vague token
#

oof

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centaur build tomorrow too

grim belfry
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Too many SRs.. so little money

vague token
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gonna be rough

lament lichen
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Well then AkashiGem

vague token
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might want to avoid pvp dedicated boats

grim belfry
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Yes. But I do have 0 cubes. AkachanSmug

vague token
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and focus on ones that work everywhere

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oof

grim belfry
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Massachusetts event hit me hard(400+ish).. and wasted about 300+ for these subs

lament lichen
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But all pvp boats can do pve stuff

grim belfry
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But yeah I'll try to get into PvP more whenever I work on the meta team and have the gold to do so

shy hazel
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when it comes to amagi

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good becomes god

steep fog
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Wtf is wrong with this season

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I burned all my attempts and still out of top 100

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Nani

hot creek
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I think KGV might be better than Monarch FumizukiStare

vague token
#

monarch needs extra glasses

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;)

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we need a 100 hit no evade radar

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or something

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ok like 50

shy hazel
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rainbow fcr

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rainbow sg

vague token
shy hazel
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super high power fire control

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well at this point

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i alrdy want a rainbow sg

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to dodge more ambushes

steep fog
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U lads ready for centaur?

ionic magnet
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kgv is the best hms bote
both on dmg output and tankiness

steep fog
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Hmm

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How do i use centaur in pvp

strange shuttle
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if i use 2 bb, one has high perforamce raider/ shell and the other uses high stanadard fire control, is there room for using a second hig perforance raider?

ionic magnet
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wdym by high performance raider

steep fog
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People running shell when im still using double sg

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Or sg + rudder

strange shuttle
ionic magnet
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shell is only for kgv and bismarck tho

strange shuttle
ionic magnet
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wait is that for pve

strange shuttle
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No , well not the main focus

steep fog
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Air radar in current pvp meta

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Lmao

ionic magnet
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then you shouldn't use AA radar and shell on nagato

steep fog
ionic magnet
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better slap beaver/rudder/sg radar/hsfcr

steep fog
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Yea

lament lichen
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Double rudder BuckySmug

strange shuttle
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?

steep fog
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Also use nepgun

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Pvp without torp bulge MutsukiCurse

lament lichen
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Honestly i drop all toolboxes

ionic magnet
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i dislike putting beaver on VG cos the effect is gone when the ship dies

steep fog
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Also run beaver on hiryuu

ionic magnet
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and its not like it will make a huge difference so i just put bulge/boiler/toolbox on them

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backline benefits more from evasion

vague token
#

if you have unlimited rudders maybe you could use them on cls?

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after main?

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xD

steep fog
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Torp bulge + rudder?

lament lichen
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Thats what i would do

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But boilers

vague token
#

MORE SPEED

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sadly sanrui doesnt have enough hp to run gyro xD

steep fog
#

Huh

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Dont u run torp bulge + rudder on sanrui

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Also sanrui in pvp miss her shot all the time

lament lichen
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I dont use her lol

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The moment i killed someones sanrui in 10 secs i just stopped caring about her

vague token
#

sanrui just has a lot of hp

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she isnt there to do damage

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she's basically take belfast, give her 1 more speed and more hp

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that's it

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sometimes she does some damage

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but she loses to torps

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bulge or not

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she's a damage over time ship

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in a mode that is not friendly to damage over time

#

she gets murdered by big seven

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murdered by ryuusei

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murdered by amagi barrage cause lol medium armor

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the only thing she doesnt lose to is conventional stall

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imma try sanrui/aurora/juneau sometime

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might be better

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but gotta get aurora to 120

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xD

#

also she really wants juneau lead

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which can be risky

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since with sanrui you want rudder/x

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which means juneau is carrying pearl

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so juneau has to survive long enough in lead position

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aka really difficult

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if roon and sanrui had like 7k hp like azuma they'd be fine probably

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xD

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but 5k is iffy

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or maybe i need to oath her first but waiting for ring pack

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xD

buoyant parrot
#

has anyone tried London Retro as mid vanguard?

elder crane
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Well you can try Louis mid
But usually it's lead Louis, and Louis used to counter Aurora
Lead Jun ofc just gets wrecked vs Aurora, and basically vs Aurora Sanrui is the best stall first-slot option (winning by default basically since everything else either also is hit hard by Aurora debuff or is slow speed and makes vanguard catch BB shells)
Otherwise vs non-Aurora Louis is just another stall ship with not much difference

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Also iirc doesn't badge buff stay even if ship sinks?

vague token
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aurora still gets sanrui killed by virtue of sinking juneau early denying her lots of hp xD

elder crane
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Well it's the best you can do vs it, overall

vague token
#

oh yeah

elder crane
#

And mid Jun vs Aurora doesn't get evaped that easily

vague token
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oh she does

elder crane
#

Lead Jun though just snap

vague token
#

oh relative yeah

elder crane
#

Ehh, idk about that
I've been running Aurora and mid Jun isn't an easy kill
Usually sinks late enough to get most of heal off, if the vanguard setup is good

vague token
#

oh, whenever i fight you

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juneau dies pretty fast

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just a big seven away from insta death

elder crane
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Well that's cause lead Juneau CleveXD

vague token
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no, juneau mid

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i swap juneau to mid against torps and aurora

elder crane
#

Oh you mean Jun on your team

vague token
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yeah xD

elder crane
#

Wait how is mid jun a big7 away from death, unless your lead ship sinks too

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Nagato big7 is linear, shouldn't hit mid ship much unless positioning is just right

vague token
#

big seven murders sanrui lol

elder crane
#

Amagi on the other hand has the arcing shots and AP spray

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Huh really? Sanrui can't even tank 1 Big7?

vague token
#

not unless you're lucky

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it rips through her health

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real fast

elder crane
#

That's actually kinda surprising

vague token
#

unless you're lucky and get dem evades

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it destroys her in lead

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because she has that mid preference

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xD

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so what happens is usually

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vs aurora is vanguard dies all same time or so

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unless ykk clutches

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im fairly certain sanrui has a move toward middle ai preference

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=(

elder crane
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That's quite interesting
I suppose the difference in experience is the expectation diff of offense/defense
Cause it sure seems worse for me on offense as Aurora when there's Louis present

vague token
#

and since im not running meta

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i dont counter kill

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xD

coral wren
#

Theoretically it’s -20 points if you sandbag hard enough?

elder crane
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It's just -20 pts ignoring sandbag

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With the extra sandbag from being behind I'd say it ends up being around -10 or so

vague token
#

im sure if i ran namagi/hiryuu id have 0 problems with aurora

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;)

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who caaares that vanguard dies

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i dont even care

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xD

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eg just waste as many hits as possible

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then lol hiryuu wins

elder crane
#

Well actually losing vanguard fight in mirror Namayuu without a main fleet health advantage usually means a loss
Vanguard almost never loses though with the attacker advantages

vague token
#

yeah

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i COULD solve all problems by meta slave but i wont go out like dax ;)

shy hazel
#

kiro so active

vague token
#

hey if you want memes

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you've come to the right guy

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;)

shy hazel
#

delete sara memer

vague token
#

xD

coral wren
#

Fellow hms users, will you move to cent ws mon or stay with kgv/qe/hood?

wicked rivet
#

Why not kgv/cent/mon

ionic magnet
#

thats what I'd do

coral wren
#

Dunno if cent worth it if you can’t synch her with kgv

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But maybe she does, if there is an aurora

stark raft
#

I'm still using Hood KGV Monarch but will try cent MutsukiStare

ionic magnet
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cent will be an upgrade to ws either way so WarShrug

coral wren
#

I believe she will give more than ws in killing enemy vang

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But she also gives you a weakness to nagato’s barrage

hot creek
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Wanna know who syncs with KGV?

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Victorious SandyMeme

coral wren
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Helena?