pvp

[sharp wing]

Oh

if 120, then you are fine

[elder crane]

for mobs Akaga is one of the best CVs

If Jun is lower level you just need to coddle her more

[sharp wing]

idk, i never liked Akaga

[elder crane]

A fox, Shouhou, then Phoenix was my KizAI SP-Black mob fleet, for example

[sharp wing]

Jun is dorm secretary

[elder crane]

How do you plan on 200 affection her then

[sharp wing]

few ppl marry her

PLEB

[elder crane]

tbf that's a pretty late oath

[sharp wing]

Well, as i said, those are Dorm slaves, unless you marry

Well, i didn't use Junie for 8 months

Up till i switched to namayu...

No, 1 month before i switched

[elder crane]

even later than Hiryuu

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

oops pic was bugged

[sharp wing]

well, that makes even 9 months

pvped fine till namayuu cancer

Wasd meets another wall

vs foxes it was

amagi or not

And i switched to Amagi right after event

[elder crane]

WaSD without Amagi did fine vs Nakaga at lv120 on CN
So yeah

[sharp wing]

Wasd yeets planes

[elder crane]

on CN since no other server ever saw that meta

[sharp wing]

sadlife

Well

[elder crane]

Oh wait JP saw that meta slightly

in the short 2-3 months between FW and CE

[sharp wing]

It is we got Amagi before

S o ye

[elder crane]

Didn't catch on in JP since not many leveled them that fast

We in EN didn't get 120 or Nagato before Amagi came

[sharp wing]

This sub is killing me...

[elder crane]

lol glhf
I hope you have oxytorps and high level subs

[sharp wing]

Well, after lvling my thiccboat and 2 gold I boats in dorm over week, last week's sub mission were ez, compared to 1st week u-boat

[elder crane]

if you don't have at least ~lv80 subs you'll struggle to have enough dmg vs final DD boss

even with gold and purple torps

[sharp wing]

ohboi

My dorm turned into sub dock

[elder crane]

Just dorm a sub to 90 and it can easily carry

[sharp wing]

lacking 3rd SR i boat, but i use Surc + 2 gold I boats from this event

[elder crane]

I'm using 556 and she's fine at lv90+

[sharp wing]

i used her 1st week

[elder crane]

for the secretary mission mostly since I never really use subs anyways

[sharp wing]

U-boats just too frail for weekly tho

[elder crane]

oh no I've 3 gold torps farmed, 4th coming soonish

ehh just never get hit

isn't hard

[lament lichen]

You just need one oxy per sub

[sharp wing]

Well, do lower lvl weeklies

[elder crane]

yeah even with 3 gold and 4 purple subtorps and 5 oxytorps lv70 subs just won't cut it

[sharp wing]

65 is very easy

lvls + gold torps

[elder crane]

that's probs mostly gold subtorps then
you should still have much easier time with lv90s

[sharp wing]

well, should do SOS

purple german torps are also very good

just not other factions

[elder crane]

556 at lv90+ easily carries pimped out
which means an actually good sub there should be able to carry even with shit torps

[sharp wing]

well, you got dildos

how much ammo ug et per boat?

that's decent

[elder crane]

also if you have surcouf leveled I hear it's actually kinda viable to gun it down

[sharp wing]

yeah

I use surc

u need to surface to barrage anyway

and some shelling while at it

does the trick

and she is tanky af

[elder crane]

I wonder if she can solo fullclear the map at high enough levels

as in kill all the non-mine enemies

[sharp wing]

you mean gun down ships?

if 100+ sure

her gun yeets light armor

Actually what boss is in sub weekly?

[vague token]

should be light

[sharp wing]

was it cl or ca something

[vague token]

it's the destroyer form

[sharp wing]

i think there was + icon

[vague token]

of siren's sprite set?

[elder crane]

ehh vid I can find is just a clear
I want to see if couf can actually by herself kill every enemy in lv75 sub daily
and/or use only gun to kill the boss

[sharp wing]

Boss is Explorer

Now, what class is Explorer

Destroyer

ok

makes sense

wiki actually has Sirens page

Well, if she won't get much damage from enemies shooting back at her...

[vague token]

as long as you dodge the barrage and stuff

i think she can do it

[sharp wing]

Well, i mean, when you surface, that's insta alert lvl

you get all the shit flying at you

But being few dozen lvls higher will make her bounce all off w/ thicc-ness

cause when deep charge deals 1k damage...

[vague token]

my 97 surcouf does 100 per shell to explorer

should be fine at 120

and like double autoloader or something

xD

[shell heron]

I think I should take a match now

bonus points or now. hope someone else moves soon after

[ionic magnet]

139 pts first 5 matches

i miss my 160 pts first 5

[elder crane]

heh I'm 121 on 4
at least better than you I suppose

[ionic magnet]

maybe ill go back to waiting for 2nd reset

next season

[vague token]

did they nuke those people with 10 match points?

xD

[sharp wing]

Doubt, unless you somehow can manage 300 points in 2 resets by now

[finite valve]

not like they going to be top 10 eos regardless

[vague token]

list super dead, guess ill just eat the 136

xD

[sharp wing]

How the hell top 100 are full of 250+ ppl

[vague token]

because they didnt nuke the people who used 10 matches xD

[sharp wing]

But there hundreds of ppl

wtf

[vague token]

LOTS of people

🍝

[sharp wing]

top1 almost 300 points

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

lowest in top 100 are 248

[vague token]

inb4 hard reset

like that one time

remember that?

those were tough times

[finite valve]

we been through this shit too many time already lel

should be the norm at this point

[sharp wing]

We only had it once

[vague token]

once is a bullet point, now we make it a trendy line ;)

[sharp wing]

And there ppl, who actually do top 10 EoS

in top 5 atm

Well, a lot of competitive sandy ppl got 10 tix

[finite valve]

i stop caring about pvp at a certain point and i am pretty sure that point is long gone already

also on another un related note

fuck 120 VG

[vague token]

?

[finite valve]

lvl up so slow

zzz

[sharp wing]

lol

[vague token]

oh

yeah =/

[finite valve]

[vague token]

that'd be nice

1.25 or 1.5 like main

[sharp wing]

NO. Vanguard ships should just require less exp

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

Wtf you talking xD

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

And subs should require less, than VG

[vague token]

i mean

we could do both

[sharp wing]

You greedy

[vague token]

i mean, it's exp for tanking

and reduced leveling requirement

because they participate less

than the equivalent main fleet

[sharp wing]

Also they could scale down exp w/ rarity

well, there many stuff in other games like that

It's called balance

[finite valve]

problem would be you can actually use common unit in other game

[sharp wing]

I actually use commons (retroes)

Tho Nagara is my main ship atm

[finite valve]

leander fury tacos off the top of my head

rest are average

[sharp wing]

Fury kako retroes

abukuma

hms dds are trash as always

[vague token]

remember when we thought fortune was good

and then ykk was like

praise me

[sharp wing]

Ranger

[vague token]

i never leveled a ranger

xD

[sharp wing]

wtf

[vague token]

i got enterprise early on and like never bothered lel

[sharp wing]

she is op

Enty was my 1st cube

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

zombies retroes

Okla/Nevada retroes

[elder crane]

Nui retro

[sharp wing]

Shiranui

[vague token]

i like cassin/downes designs anyways

xD

[sharp wing]

There some really good common retroes

Basically anything aside hms dds

[elder crane]

Well a perfectly average 144 start

[sharp wing]

and all top 100 is 250+

i'm 137... cause fck ded noob lists

[elder crane]

HMS DD rets aren't that bad
Cheap smokers

[sharp wing]

They have OP Assets

I use em for asw anyway

they are all 99+

[vague token]

was leveling vampire for lazy asw

but fiji is working fine

xD

[finite valve]

fiji is rare tho?

[lament lichen]

javelin

[elder crane]

Laffey still what I use
Will probs add Koln soon too, for anti-sub-boss

[lament lichen]

fish n chips

[elder crane]

Laffey best ASW damage when she procs Dmode

[sharp wing]

laffey isn't common

[vague token]

fiji has superior assets though ;)

[sharp wing]

thot tho

[lament lichen]

superior

[vague token]

also a debuff

[lament lichen]

clumsly maid thou

[vague token]

ships with debuffs are the best ;)

[sharp wing]

She has no debuff tho

[vague token]

fiji does

20 seconds, reduce enemy damage

[sharp wing]

she has buff

[vague token]

it does both

[sharp wing]

reduced ally damage taken

[vague token]

wait what, they must have changed it

it used to say reduce enemy damage

o.O

[sharp wing]

wtf

[elder crane]

no news of patch time yet, right?

[sharp wing]

are you high

she would be op

[elder crane]

Erm what
same difference

[finite valve]

last minute tweet

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

30 sec of glory

[elder crane]

I'm above coin cap and want to know if I should dump some

[finite valve]

yostar are busy preapping AK for EN

they don't have time for AL lel

[sharp wing]

oh cmon

[finite valve]

might hold some ground to it if the rev of AK is any indacation

CN alone has more sale than both gfl + al all server combine

[sharp wing]

rev is no indication to me

I often play some niche stuff

[finite valve]

not to you

but to the ppl who work at the company?

yes ofc they will

[vague token]

owo

i dont know anything about arknights, i should look into it

xD

[sharp wing]

it's tower def game

[finite valve]

TD game with furries

[sharp wing]

and not waifu collector

[vague token]

o.o

[finite valve]

waifu is debatable

got some cute waifu

[sharp wing]

I mean, not pure waifu

[finite valve]

but not many enough i would say

[sharp wing]

so i pass

[finite valve]

eh good as a side game

[vague token]

eh, nothing wrong with husbando

[sharp wing]

Al is side game

[finite valve]

don't need to whale

[sharp wing]

loli husbando

[finite valve]

what your main then?

[vague token]

if FEH had auto mode and wasnt 100% busted id play it

dem skills

[finite valve]

not too keen on feh system tho

[vague token]

i mean it's reminiscent of the game it's based on

so i understand it

it's just that skill creep op

xD

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

creepy

What to do... Isuzu crying all the time

[vague token]

stop bully

[sharp wing]

I no bully

[vague token]

ok

good job then

[sharp wing]

And Miku is... well

I think is not feeling good

[finite valve]

well you can buy her skin

isuzu stop crying with her skin

[sharp wing]

nah

Also it's limited

halloween i guess

[finite valve]

yeh

[sharp wing]

She is kawaii

[shell heron]

a 129 start

[sharp wing]

oh

[shell heron]

only one person moved

[vague token]

wow all of us getting rekt

xD

[sharp wing]

At least i'm having good times w/ buki farm

well, if i even call it 'farm'

[lament lichen]

139 start rip

[sharp wing]

137

[finite valve]

146

[lament lichen]

wait why am i trying

[finite valve]

and i am not even trying btw

[sharp wing]

Ppl who care about pvp least get most points

[shell heron]

then give me 10 points. I'm far below average this time

[vague token]

ill donate points to you ;)

[shell heron]

actually worse than rushers

[vague token]

gotta counter the 10 match rushers

[sharp wing]

lol

I hope they all get deleted

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[lament lichen]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

wonder what kind of skills baltimore will have

i always appreciate more gunboats

even though london kai is here

X-x

[shy hazel]

i got 143

im not competing even

using 5 in the next reset is a gamble

doing 2 in the first and 3 in the next

works more

imo

[sharp wing]

Top1 has 340 now, lmao

[shy hazel]

wait for aki to go online

but why not

its just spice anyways

[vague token]

xD

maybe it'll be better to push

and get those bonuses

[tulip summit]

how exactly were pvp score adjustments done before?

[vague token]

they've only hard reset things one time

[tulip summit]

yeah Im talking about the point adjustments theyve done before

was it like +200 points for non-abusers or?

[lament lichen]

oh you're talking about that one time where they removed the bonus points from most people but one guy who was like 30-50 points ahead of second place

[tulip summit]

yeah I cant remember the adjustments done

[lament lichen]

and devs said his score was legit and sandbaggegers ended with 2620 at the highest

its about 5 matches worth of points

i think it was lke 100-150

its was 1400 scores when the bug happen aka dst

[tulip summit]

hmmm guess well see if theyre gonna do point adjustment or attempt adjustments

though I didnt get refunded any attempts the last time they did that lol

[shy hazel]

darkova case

in the end

[lament lichen]

you're not suppose to get the attempts back

[shy hazel]

he wasnt even able to touch t10

eos

useless bugger

[tulip summit]

ah no there was that one time where they gave refunded attempts back instead of point adjustments

[lament lichen]

you mean the full reset?

where everyone started at like 600 points?

and started with 10 attempts

[tulip summit]

I think that was the one yeah

cant really remember it now because I just wrote off that pvp season but I know it was earlier this year

think around march

[lament lichen]

if they gave attempts back it was the full reset one

[tulip summit]

yep I didnt get 5 attempts that time if I remember correctly

[lament lichen]

you started at 10 attempts

[shell heron]

I remember it being more like resetting all players to a the same score with 10 attempts if that is what you meant

versus manually adjusting people who "cheated"

[tulip summit]

I think what happened with me that time was I didnt wake up until a lil after 1200 PST

[odd schooner]

Man this is awkward

Vysaga jay and 2 more top on my list

[tulip summit]

and I woke up to only 5 attempts instead of 10 (5 from 0000 and 5 from 1200)

[sharp wing]

Oh, fcking finally that bunny came home

[shell heron]

Now what are the odds of 4 known sandbaggers on the same list

[shy hazel]

now that i think about it

pvp has 4 stages for me

Beginner Rush / Mid season / Genrush / Sandbag Rush

[sharp wing]

Isn't that for everyone

[tulip summit]

everyone that is putting any sort of effort during the season Id say yeah

[sharp wing]

tho gensui rush is irrelevant for me, if i haven't lost too many tix

Will get top 10 EoS in any case

[shy hazel]

if ppl dont aim for top 10 u only need 3 parts

[sharp wing]

I only rush it when 5+ tix lost

[shy hazel]

this is avrora case

getting alot of bonuses in begrush can make ur life easier midrush

[shell heron]

I skipped that 3rd step if I know my season is decent

[sharp wing]

gensui rush is only if you not going to do top 10 EoS

[shell heron]

And prey in the gensui rushers

[shy hazel]

u can skip a part if u got good beginner rush

[tulip summit]

lol in Avrora if you lose more than 2-3 tix I feel like it becomes too hard for GenSui rush

[sharp wing]

Which i never get

[shy hazel]

3 is easy

i got into top 10 with 3 lost charges

well

if u sandbag

[tulip summit]

at least for me, my early and mid seasons are average at best after all

[shell heron]

I lost 6 last season and still touched gensui

But it was 2nd reset Saturday

[sharp wing]

early rush can prevent you from a lot bonuses mid and end season too

[shy hazel]

even if your begrush is bad

[sharp wing]

So it evens out in the end

[shy hazel]

if u consistent in mid

u can still get t10

in my exp

but u need to be good

in genrush

[sharp wing]

Depends how much you can nolyfe and nosleep

[shy hazel]

and sandbag survival rush

well i guess ill just call last part eos

[sharp wing]

in EU timeznes it's tough to keep up

[shy hazel]

time to update my sandbag guide

[tulip summit]

I bet

[shy hazel]

im not gonna participate this season anyways

[tulip summit]

Im in West Coast USA and I cant even "keep up" most seasons

[shy hazel]

9 times top 10 creds now

[sharp wing]

GMT is 8 hrs ahead server time

[shy hazel]

i havent touched top 1 eos yet

reee

[shell heron]

I should keep track of my scores next season too. That point reference table is weird

There's 3 known sandbaggers in avrora that will refuse to give you r1 eos

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

Unless you have like 3 34 season start and good sandbag rng xD

[lament lichen]

wait jay doesnt sandbag

[shy hazel]

nah top 1 sandbaggers are different

[lament lichen]

he dods 10-0 method

[shell heron]

Midseason is when its hard. 10 base points is low

[shy hazel]

they wake up in the middle of the night

[sharp wing]

ohboi

[shy hazel]

i mostly get alot of points midseason even if few

if ny starts are bad

the season when i was almost kicked out of top ten

my midseason was good

[lament lichen]

10 point base is where the magic happens

[shy hazel]

but my genrush was terribad

lol

[shell heron]

That season everything went well

Except for eos reset

[sharp wing]

move on

[shy hazel]

when theres event

midseason is always dead

[sharp wing]

Sandy is always ded, gensui rush esp

[shell heron]

No, lesson for future seasons

[lament lichen]

daxam gonna say sandy isnt dead

[tulip summit]

whose in what server here anyway?

[shy hazel]

avrora is very alive every genrush

most of us tryharders are in av

[tulip summit]

I recognize stella in avrora for one

[shy hazel]

sagi in sandy

[lament lichen]

also west coast is easy to get top10 if you sandbag correctly

[sharp wing]

I come to shit on Avrora tryhards

[shy hazel]

go shit on daxam

[sharp wing]

can't

[tulip summit]

its Avrora, its mandatory for us

[shy hazel]

thats the point of making sandbag guide

its mostly for av anyways

but u can apply it to other servers ofc

last season was good

whole season was alive

[sharp wing]

Long live the Queen , Sandy not ded. I'm off 5 am

[shy hazel]

thats why avrora top 1 got 2606

[lament lichen]

yeah just put in te sandbag guide find the same person 6 times for maximun points

dead season you barely can get to 2600

[shy hazel]

i got like 4-5 points per genrush reset

7 points on eos

[shell heron]

Avrora r1 is usually 2600+

[shy hazel]

too bad cay was dead

[lament lichen]

too bad this season gonna be dead for next event

[shy hazel]

ye

[vague token]

and fe3h, will probably lose matches because distracted

xD

[lament lichen]

and i got games to play that come out on friday

yup

[shell heron]

Heard its gonna be a chain of events

[shy hazel]

im going to jp so im out this time

[lament lichen]

wait kiro cant play fe3h theres no sara in there

[vague token]

what

you too now?

xD

[shy hazel]

ill spoil u ppl on tenki no ko

[tulip summit]

lol I too died last season because of irl, only ended up with vice admiral kappa

[shy hazel]

i post spoilers here

[lament lichen]

just spoil for kiro

he uses sara

[shy hazel]

im gonna dm kiro

[vague token]

oh god they're multiplying

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

gonna have to quit the server

[shy hazel]

quit sara first

[lament lichen]

trash her

[vague token]

sooooon

essex is almost here

[lament lichen]

wait just use centaur

cant meme with sara and flood

you would end your misery earlier

[vague token]

i cant use both

[shy hazel]

now that i think about it

[vague token]

i dunno how flood overrides work

xD

[shy hazel]

will centaur work with namagi

serious thonkang

[vague token]

406 nagato? xD

[shell heron]

Over the nuance that is hiryuu?

[shy hazel]

first barrage impossible

but maybe u can time next batch

[vague token]

just use double skyrocket

obviously

[tulip summit]

err wait can buffs get applied while shells are mid-flight?

[vague token]

yes?

like damage order

[shy hazel]

i dont think so

[vague token]

and stuff

can apply mid flight?

or do they not check

[shy hazel]

isnt the coding in the game potato

[vague token]

no it's spaghet

🍝

[shy hazel]

shells hit before the animation hits

iirc

phantom bullet

[vague token]

ravioli

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

double skyrocket/cuda centaur hits 18.7

ez

xD

[shy hazel]

stop memeing

[vague token]

what gun

you'd probably want triple 381

for better ratio of damage to cd

nagato reload is like what

15% off the weapon?

no i mean the reload translates to .85

in total

sorry

xD

381 kai is 15.2

or so

17 for 410

[shy hazel]

so much math

[vague token]

triple 381

is 19.6

or so

[shy hazel]

cent was meta at some point right

[vague token]

that's the best you'll get

[steep fog]

Hmm does 381 kai still have use with new 406 drh

[shy hazel]

what did they do to hood

reduce her reload¿

lol

[steep fog]

Huh rly

[shy hazel]

406 drh?

pr2 stuff?

[vague token]

you'd only use the 406 on boats with better shelling cause of the base damage

eg biscuit or fdg

[shy hazel]

oh 406

the old hood gun

[vague token]

no the 406 fdg gun xD

[shy hazel]

nvm then

[vague token]

i mean it is a pr gun

[shy hazel]

i dont rly

[vague token]

that's normal

[shy hazel]

study future weps yet

ill check it when it comes to en

[vague token]

meanwhile 457mm is 50 bps

____>

reee

[shy hazel]

thats why

i dont rly agree theorycrafting

with the things we dont even have

who knows when pr2 will come

[tulip summit]

Jan 2020 mebeh

[shy hazel]

still got 5 ships to dev30

[tulip summit]

and I have yet to finish my 4th PR

[vague token]

still working on 3rd

xD

[steep fog]

Gonna pump cube research after anni

If i still have cubes

Only 40% left on ibuki

Time to crack mail oil

[shell heron]

406? which 406 are we talking about?

[tulip summit]

still missing I-56. I have a feeling Ill empty out my rsc mail by the time anni event comes around

[vague token]

fdg gun

[shell heron]

right that new gun Nagato will be using

[elder crane]

"iirc amagi drh vs amagi 381 kai has a .2% dps difference in favor of drh"
I assume the "DpS" mentioned here is total Barrage+Shelling?
Cause there's no way it's that close otherwise

[charred sable]

PR2 uses different "ALL" blueprints right?

[elder crane]

And I assume that's on a specific armor type

yeah no point in saving PR1 generals for PR2

[shy hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528197562998718474/603052703735742464/SPOILER_SHIP.jpg

it actually makes sense if the ship is iowa

anniv event happens in iowa museum

like mikasa ship in jp

mark said rigging looks the same too

[shell heron]

I love getting gold roon projects. Trying to finish off sanrui here and here I am getting bps for a ship I don't have yet

[vague token]

owo

i thought i heard someone say something about a reaper scythe

so they were saying new jersey

or something

[trim horizon]

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

its just rumor anyways

[vague token]

but muh speculation

[shy hazel]

im not american so

what does scythe have to do with new jersey

[vague token]

no idea, i saw it on reddit ill go find it xD

[lament lichen]

Its some iowa class bb anyways

Considering the boats in the event

[vague token]

uss new jersey turret 1 has the silhouette of a reaper on it

apparently

alternatively it'll be a sodak class

[lament lichen]

Also new jersey did fight along the other 3 boats in the event

[vague token]

cause the chains are the same

apparently

also oh ok

oh and apparently some people say that the circular radar dish is not visible on sodak class

but it is on iowa class

xD

man people sure do know a lot about actual warships

[lament lichen]

Uss loli bb

[shy hazel]

its still iowa,class

[finite valve]

might be a change of pace if they actually make her good

[shy hazel]

so who knows

its not ijn so dont expect anything

ijn bias

[shell heron]

You mean make uss good again

[finite valve]

loli BB = good
big boobs = bad?

might be why they make her a loli

qe and nagato are both loli

[shy hazel]

remember

qe is semi crap

dont tell daxam

[finite valve]

well daxam already leave us "elite" in pursuit of newbielism

so yeh

[ionic magnet]

another day another qe trashing

i sure hope that mystery loli wont become meta

not a fan

[lament lichen]

Wait but daxam already left qe for meta def

[shy hazel]

at least amagi is op

she not loli

studied about new jersey

to be fair

she has more achievements than iowa

she feels anti air tho

[shell heron]

Can I abandon the season? First 2 resets are actual zero bonus matches

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

owo

[ionic magnet]

faith restored

[finite valve]

[steep fog]

wtf

300 merit

are we beggars

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

more merits to my pile of unused merits

[vague token]

i just buy more boxes nowadays

MORE BOXES

still over 150000 xD

[shell heron]

I would buy boxes too, if they ever offer me IB boxes

[finite valve]

i use mine on bullin

gotta mlb all the event boat

[shell heron]

I should use some of mines soon 18 bulins already

but for now. I sit on 420k merits

[finite valve]

been doing nothing but buying purrin for 2 months straight so mine is only at 100k+

zzz

[shell heron]

there's only so many ships you need to MLB. even more so with purins

[edgy sparrow]

Cursed

[midnight heron]

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

if u want to realistically mlb all ships

getting 3 dupes for every event youll need

[steep fog]

[shy hazel]

[buoyant parrot]

with all that BP I can be Rank 3 in Fleet power now

[vague token]

lol

[steep fog]

ok im gonna burn mail oil to finish pr

[shy hazel]

cay is gonna pass me soon

460k merit points

[vague token]

https://gyazo.com/6532d912077759cc13bc5277681c9fc7
is this new dax?

xD

[fringe lotus]

How do I make a good PVP team? Isn't there any point if I'm not lvl 100?

[vague token]

so the thing that makes a good pvp team is a good ratio of EHP to Damage Output

namaryuu with x/juneau/ykk is basically The Best ratio of EHP to Damage there is

[buoyant parrot]

@fringe lotus check this recommended ships...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BglmSOaD1ec8zc6bKwiItf2OcQueoRNxF3UGzlQnHBU/edit?usp=sharing

Not updated so far but still relevant

[vague token]

i mean

[fringe lotus]

Rip all the high tier combos I don't have those ships

[buoyant parrot]

what do you have?

maybe we can scrap something decent

[steep fog]

just run your highest lvl ships for pvp

[buoyant parrot]

^ dat would temporarily work

[buoyant parrot]

you have Hood

put her middle position

the rest is would be advisable to put which ever highest level ship you have

but at least you have Hood

Portland is somewhat okay

[fringe lotus]

Does French ships work?

[steep fog]

just run highest lvl ships

atk easy def fleet

u will prolly die to anything 10k +

[buoyant parrot]

well no they don't work best at PvP but again if you don't have the full recommended line up as everyone suggest. Use high level ships

but yeah when you get to fight 10k+ FP you're dead... just refresh the match instead

[fringe lotus]

Sometimes JB instantly nukes their Frontline like to half HP with a crit at the start of battle

It is pretty random

[steep fog]

back when I was newb I ran clev helena leander for pvp

dont even have belfast

[fringe lotus]

Should I run Shouhou?

[buoyant parrot]

at this point my advice is to save cubes and try to hit for Centaur...

she's useful until you get to hit a random pull for Enterprise then you have 2 good CV now

put shohou you have no other choice

she's 98

[fringe lotus]

She does decent damage for some reason even though she is CVL

[buoyant parrot]

she's going to die on the 2nd Salvo that's for sure.

and she works best along with CV's would be nice if you have Enterprise

or go ahead farm 3-4

Get Kaga and Akagi

[fringe lotus]

I have two Akagi but not Kaga yet

The Centaur is coming too

[buoyant parrot]

Akagi is good

invest time for her

[lean phoenix]

@steep fog i ran that too when i was a newb lel

It wasnt too bad for what it was..

[vague token]

centaur has real CV stats

btw

she SAYS she's a cvl

she lies

[lean phoenix]

Well

Shes like a 1950s CVL

[buoyant parrot]

well she's thiccc... I don't consider her CVL in the first place

[fringe lotus]

Can Ranger be budget enterprise?

[buoyant parrot]

yes

specially when retrofitted

poor man's enterprice

good combo along LongIsland

[steep fog]

I ran ranger till w11

[fringe lotus]

Are fighter planes and AA important in PVP?

[buoyant parrot]

somewhat yes but at the sametime no

[lament lichen]

always good to have

[buoyant parrot]

it varies on your opponent

but yeah never a bad thing to have

[vague token]

it helps but planes have like

3x hp

so

good luck

it isnt like ch12

xD

[steep fog]

well

[lament lichen]

i see a sara

[steep fog]

at least good AA = less touchdown dmg

[lament lichen]

kiro gonna recommend sara retro

[vague token]

i mean

sara is t.5 in pve

tanky, guns, damage booster

so usable in both modes

[fringe lotus]

I heard she good.

Yorktown is just good for not dying

[shy hazel]

[lament lichen]

yeah she''s good for pve

[shy hazel]

did i just hear someone say sara is good

[lament lichen]

but she is kinda costly to retro

pvp she doesnt need to exist

[fringe lotus]

Sara expensive?

[lament lichen]

if you retro her

[shy hazel]

kiro clones sprouting

[fringe lotus]

Sounds too expensive stick to budget with Langley Kai

[lament lichen]

if you want to have boats for both pvp and pve just focus on pve ones first

[shy hazel]

enty is old but is both pvp pve

[lament lichen]

well sara can go a long way to ch 12

but in like a week or two we get the new USS boats

[shy hazel]

sara is good

until kiro started using her for memes

[lament lichen]

u right

but if you want a boat for the long run just go for sara

ranger can hold her own if she procs

langley isnt that great from when i used her on jp

[shy hazel]

sara is easy to get

just pay a dollar

[fringe lotus]

I was hoping maybe Enterprise will come for medal exchange.

[lament lichen]

you're on what server?

[fringe lotus]

Lexington

[shy hazel]

av is lusty rn

[lament lichen]

whos in the exchange

[fringe lotus]

Prinz Eugen

[waxen dawn]

Eugen

[lament lichen]

oh rip

[shy hazel]

[lament lichen]

she's a free boat lul

[waxen dawn]

Enty came before her.

[fringe lotus]

Yeah I don't really want more of her

[shy hazel]

also the most oathed ship

lol

biggest trap for free players

[lament lichen]

oh right

train a juneau once you get her

[vague token]

to be fair

we all know prinz kai

[fringe lotus]

Oh I have one I will put her in dorm

[vague token]

is gonna be hilarious

[lament lichen]

and start lvling her skill

the blue skill

[waxen dawn]

I hope baltimore will shake the meta a bit once she comes

[lament lichen]

baltimore is a CA

[fringe lotus]

Oh she heals everyone that's nice

[lament lichen]

yeah when she dies

25%

[buoyant parrot]

if you have the tear of pearl put it on her

[lament lichen]

you should also look into the collections

[waxen dawn]

Or maybe new jersey

[lament lichen]

and level up some boats in there

[vague token]

eagle CA wont shake meta

ever

unless she has 7k+ hp

aka there's only 1 potential eagle ca

ALASKA

THICC CRUISERS

[fringe lotus]

I'd have to LB my cassin and Downes 😭

[buoyant parrot]

she is GOD

[vague token]

you should lb a set of cassin and downes

[lament lichen]

theres also the beaver badge

[vague token]

because they are great

[fringe lotus]

I just been using them to farm for low cost are they good otherwise?

[vague token]

you keep 1 set at 0lb

and 1 set at mlb

[lament lichen]

uh dont worry too much for low cost for now

but cass and downes are good for low cost farming

[fringe lotus]

Lmao

[vague token]

only 2k? xD

[shy hazel]

i have 0 expectation on baltimore

cos,ca

[vague token]

yeah xD

[sharp wing]

I got ed again...

[waxen dawn]

Whenever I buy gold bulins I end having too many of them.

But when I don't I end up needing more of them

[sharp wing]

This is my 20th atm...

[fringe lotus]

Do I lose rank if I fight and lose?

[sharp wing]

Had 21 before subs, spent 2, but now i have extra sr subs left...

no

[lament lichen]

no you do not

[sharp wing]

You never lose anything

[lament lichen]

you just dont gain points

[sharp wing]

you just don't gain anything

[lament lichen]

and half the merits iirc

[sharp wing]

half merits and regular lose exp

[lament lichen]

better to win all your fights

and just take it slow

[sharp wing]

You can reset for free anyway

just pause and exit

[fringe lotus]

Its giving me just hard people now

[lament lichen]

also you need gear for pvp

[sharp wing]

This pvp is a big joke with no ranking exchange and free endless fight rerolls

[lament lichen]

dont diss my merit farm

[sharp wing]

Hey

[fringe lotus]

Is this a meme team maybe I can beat it

[lament lichen]

yes you can beat it

[buoyant parrot]

just waiting for the day they revamp PVP so it can be more exciting...

[sharp wing]

Most likely

Look on fleet power

If it's low, they have no gear

[lament lichen]

under 5 digits ez

generally under 13k are teams that arent full geared

[fringe lotus]

My Vanguard is under 5 digits

[buoyant parrot]

and when you also see a VG that's 15k Fleetpower its also pathetic torp meme....

[lament lichen]

also what are your equips like

[sharp wing]

13-13.5k vgs (esp with Juneau and Yukikaze) are optimised ones, better avoid those

[fringe lotus]

Like +6 purple stuffs

[steep fog]

or just vg not 120 yet

[fringe lotus]

I have a couple of gold stuffs

[sharp wing]

ohboi

You are in for one crazy ride

[lament lichen]

uh lets see

[buoyant parrot]

lol

[lament lichen]

purple for Vanguard

are generally only the Aux

[steep fog]

my jun is 114 bel 118 ykkz 117

[buoyant parrot]

loooooooooong ride... Please be patient :)

[steep fog]

[lament lichen]

actually can you tell us what gold equips you have

[steep fog]

how to meta pvp without ykkz

[buoyant parrot]

hmmmm

use Torp meme

[fringe lotus]

My gear is like this I have gold torpedoes and a gold 100mm

JB gun is gold

[buoyant parrot]

Ayanami, Aurora, Jintsu

that's seems okay

[lament lichen]

do you have torpedo bulge?

[fringe lotus]

Yeah I have a purple one and some blues ones

[lament lichen]

whos the vanguard right now

[buoyant parrot]

scrap the blues save that purple bulges you'll damn need lots of those

[lament lichen]

torp bulge on emilie

[buoyant parrot]

P Tool Box, P Bulge, Fire extinguishers <- Save them

and yeah put bulge on on emile since she's frontline

[lament lichen]

do you have a purple boiler

or gyroscope

[buoyant parrot]

oh right that P Boilers very important as well

[fringe lotus]

I have uh

[steep fog]

well

just stick with toolbox early game

[fringe lotus]

Two purple Gyros and a purple boiler

[steep fog]

doubt u have the resource for pvp only aux

[lament lichen]

hey i use boiler in pve

[steep fog]

[buoyant parrot]

I also use Boilers in PvE

specially on any CA I have

[steep fog]

wtf

[lament lichen]

but i got 3 rudders so

[sharp wing]

Also save blue camo/steering wheel for pve

[steep fog]

u want your ships to be slow in pve

so they auto better

[lament lichen]

my boats can be slow if they dont get hit

[steep fog]

[lament lichen]

double rudder

[steep fog]

just tank the hits

be manly

[buoyant parrot]

well technically that's supposed to be the idea but I tend to put all Boilers on CA's coz PvP lol

[lament lichen]

uh lets see

whats the gun on hood right now

[buoyant parrot]

besides, they can manage anyway~

[lament lichen]

@fringe lotus

[sharp wing]

That JB looks like she means business tho

[buoyant parrot]

410 good

[fringe lotus]

My Vanguard somehow almost got wiped by the meme team

Only Forbin was alive lol

[lament lichen]

thats fine lol

[buoyant parrot]

Hood weapon correct

[sharp wing]

cause DDs...

[lament lichen]

do you have more SG radars?

[fringe lotus]

That's the only purple I have blue ones

Shouhou gets MVP every game lol

[sharp wing]

shouhou has 0/3/3 loadout, if you got helldiver on her

she packs a punch

[fringe lotus]

Ya I have helldiver and barracuda

[vague token]

sadly

she doesnt self buff

=(

her skill buffs Other cv/cvl =(

[buoyant parrot]

which kinda reminds me I don't have a non retroed Shohou... Must get one I guess

[sharp wing]

It only triggers after she launches anywa, so even if she buffed herself, would be useless

I use lb0 Uni for that purpose better