pvp

[sharp wing]

who you gonna bait in pve

[elder crane]

Then the bombs on Pirate means it's still better

[sharp wing]

Pirate sits on pvp comp

I don't remove pvp equips

[elder crane]

unless you need AA, but Reppu is kinda shit for AA

[sharp wing]

reppu has second highest burst aa

[elder crane]

And 0 followup since it flies too fast

[sharp wing]

that's why air dps pretty irrelevant

only 1 burst

[elder crane]

nah other planes can get followup if there's two spaced set of planes on cannons, and followup on the same wave with MG iirc
Reppu can't do that

[sharp wing]

yeah, that's for reppu

It's aa guns have 0.95 reload too

so it just 1 burst usually

[midnight heron]

so it shud be renamed reppoo?

jk dont kill me

[sharp wing]

rapu

Oh, core got another no bombs fighter...

gold one this time

[midnight heron]

anime coming in oct :>

[buoyant parrot]

is baltimore a new Ship to all server?

kewl then

I hope she is like a ship that can unison with other uss

so I can finally make my "A ME R I CA FUCK YEAH" Team

[sharp wing]

Well, she is just a CA, so i don't expect much for pvp (or pve)

If they released Alaska class CBs

[buoyant parrot]

I can't say bad things to CA's right now since we are at 120 Lv cap now

[lament lichen]

Theres also that one mystery loli boat

[buoyant parrot]

there is hope

[coral wren]

new carrier perhaps

or destroyer

[lament lichen]

Its a bb

[sharp wing]

Yeah, basically it's same, as losing

In the old days it happened a lot, cause autobattle wasn't on when relogging

[coral wren]

if it's iowa then rip hatred, dude promised to drop al

[sharp wing]

RIPu

[coral wren]

loli haters unite

[sharp wing]

No more loli BBds

[buoyant parrot]

I can't hate loli... I'm one of the.... I mean lets protect loli

[sharp wing]

Loli are for pats

We need Akashi help here

[buoyant parrot]

I wanna oath Emile but I also love Le Triomp... But I also has a thing for I-168

[sharp wing]

[buoyant parrot]

im so confuse

[sharp wing]

Let yr pp heart decide

[finite valve]

@coral wren when did i said i drop al if iowa is a loli tho?

[buoyant parrot]

if I let my pp decide... It will go for Cyberangel Bronya...

[finite valve]

as least i don't remember i did

[shy hazel]

whats gon be release is like what

[sharp wing]

Surcoaf

[shy hazel]

2 cl 1 ca

[coral wren]

internet remembers

[shy hazel]

and 1 dunno ship

[sharp wing]

Oh, that was in stream?

[finite valve]

jav spear + vampy chain

[shy hazel]

there were 2 more characters with

[finite valve]

too edgy

[shy hazel]

illustration

[finite valve]

i LIKE it

[shy hazel]

san juan and

i forgot name of the other

[sharp wing]

Numbah Juan

[shy hazel]

i alrdy closed the stream so i dont rmber

birmingham i think

[fierce field]

San juan, Birmingham and Baltimore

[shy hazel]

its just 2 cl and ca

[fierce field]

ye

[shy hazel]

now is mystery ship

find a naval event where the 3 are present

and well get an idea who the mystery ship is

can either be enemy or uss

enemy is only japan

[fierce field]

speculation are NJ, Alabama or another Iowa

[sharp wing]

Don't Bulli

Vestal cult will get you

Vestal is religion

[finite valve]

what kind of science are you trying?

[shy hazel]

im not seeing an event

where the 3 are together

lol

[sharp wing]

There might be no actual "event"

Like story

[buoyant parrot]

did they mention what kind of event are we expecting?

is this grind fest and gacha?

[sharp wing]

Or did they say there will be special maps?

[finite valve]

most likely lel

i say grind more likely

[buoyant parrot]

welp gotta stop pounding 12-4 then

[shy hazel]

its a story event

[finite valve]

got around 3 weeks till anni

[shy hazel]

lol

[finite valve]

so almost enough time for a major event

[shy hazel]

give me the japanese title and ill translate it

[fierce field]

there will be a special map, and a new mode

[shy hazel]

lazy to return to the stream youtube

its sand playground something

[finite valve]

http://is2.4chan.org/vg/1563801237035.jpg

[sharp wing]

fck loli BB

[finite valve]

both moon runes looks the same to me so don't ask me it is CN or JP zzz

[shy hazel]

its jp at least

[finite valve]

rigging kindda big for a loli US

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

loli with big rigging

[sharp wing]

She has something armored skirt

[finite valve]

consider US motto were always bigger = better

[shy hazel]

smells like nagato right

[lament lichen]

Inb4 yamato follows the same

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

just give uss a nagato copy

[buoyant parrot]

baltimore is so edgy I LIKE HER shes like Georgia

[shy hazel]

and u see a new meta

even with the same exact skills

lol

uss has much better cvs

[finite valve]

so loli BB and who else for US?

or you want to use enty and any essex class?

[shy hazel]

pvp terms i dont expect anything

in non ssr ships

[coral wren]

nagato copy alone won't do shit

[shy hazel]

unless san juan is a better juneau

which probably wont happen

[fierce field]

imagine balti is a sanrui but without her torps

[coral wren]

you need two of them, to compensate for amagi

[shy hazel]

nah if uss got nagato copy can mix match alot of stuff

[finite valve]

i think amagi is a must for all team tbh

her power creep is just that good

[shy hazel]

wasda may actually get real dmg wtv wtv

wasda can tank anything anyways

in the past at least

[coral wren]

Which is why namagi > ussnagato+amagi

[shy hazel]

ofc the chances of uss getting a nagato copy is still 0

[coral wren]

amagi is ijn related so she gets buffed by nagato

[finite valve]

JP bias too strong

[shy hazel]

so its still a useless talk

[coral wren]

it's basically a circklejerk

[finite valve]

might change when AL 2 comes

[coral wren]

you need 2 flagship buffers

from the same faction

[finite valve]

cancer atm only has 1 nation buff tho?

amagi is universal

[shy hazel]

just always remember

never expect anything from a uss event

[finite valve]

good for waifu

[buoyant parrot]

well lets all just chill. We'll get to see the new ships and of course criticized it like what we did on Bisco

[coral wren]

amagi gets buffed in return, so unless new faction buffer is universal as well

[finite valve]

iowa 100% AA meme

[coral wren]

they will suck ass

[shy hazel]

the only thing im looking forward

[finite valve]

mark my word

[shy hazel]

in a uss event

is the gear

the only few uss event in the game gave the best gears

lul

vf 17 and hfscr

thats the only uss event

[buoyant parrot]

but I'm not going to have my hopes up... It has been a total let down since Bisco... its trash in pvp at least

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

or you have 2 buffers from the same faction again

so cancer won't steal 3rd buffer

[shy hazel]

i still see ssr cas a nothing but liability

in pvp

[finite valve]

most likely buff nation CL or CA most likely

or might be universal like monty

dk for sure

both seem likely for US CA

[shy hazel]

the rigging is suspicious

ive never seen a uss ship having a loli with big riggings

but wtv

ijn or uss i dont rly care

[sharp wing]

I think the event will be about Battle of the Philippine Sea most likely or related

[buoyant parrot]

New map is 97+

Seem fascinating

[shy hazel]

i think ph is the most common maybe

[finite valve]

too edgy for a JP boat tho

[shy hazel]

but apparently the event is like episode 0

before the main story happens

[sharp wing]

Actually that could be CB

[finite valve]

cape: check
spear: check
chain: check

[sharp wing]

Alaska was part of TF58

[shy hazel]

and philippines doesnt actually happen in story until w12?

is w12 even considered the turkey shoot

[fierce field]

phillippines is w12 + w13

[shy hazel]

i came late on stream so lol

il need to rewatch it again to know facts

but wtv

[coral wren]

oh god here come the annoying pinoy pride people out of the woodwork once w13 comes

[shy hazel]

its supposed to be episode 0 wtv wtv playground sand

wtv

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

wonder if i should lvl US ship for stupid event or not

[buoyant parrot]

Funny enough my fleet power for USS is the highest in my dock

[sharp wing]

You need US ships for event?

Well, same. Wasd boasts high stats

compared to low aa IJN backliners

rating way higher

[lament lichen]

I think the mystery boat could be new jersey

[sharp wing]

Most likely

if it's indeed tf58

Or mighty Mo

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

Also, we might see Albacore sinking taihoe

Fits Anniv

[finite valve]

not like ppl ain't already doing it in 13-4

[sharp wing]

What is ch13 story anyway?

[finite valve]

fuck if i know

[steep fog]

lmao

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

i give 0 shit for AL story

[steep fog]

who cares about story

[finite valve]

is all over the place

[sharp wing]

Well, Sirens simulate real battles

[steep fog]

idek what do I fight against/for

[buoyant parrot]

when are we getting meoficers?

if ch13 comes up

[sharp wing]

Well, ch13 is Mariana attack and other stuff there looks like. So Philippines

[buoyant parrot]

we should get meowcifers already

[finite valve]

just another gold sunk

i ain't looking for that shit 1 bit

couple with EN sonic speed

#howtofarmforgold?

[buoyant parrot]

you use 450 Gems

[finite valve]

[buoyant parrot]

thats how you get stupid gold

sad la

[sharp wing]

How to get bunny sub

[finite valve]

[elder crane]

AL chapter stories are WW2 battles

event stories are the siren stuff

[buoyant parrot]

Just got the remaining 2 subs earlier

So im down to 8 cubes. I'm so excited for centaur....

[steep fog]

wtf

[sharp wing]

Sirens also emulate ww2 battles

[steep fog]

building sub b4 centaur

madlad

[sharp wing]

Cent is perma

[buoyant parrot]

[steep fog]

getting cent out of rate up is insane

[elder crane]

Yes but main map chapters is actually USN Pacific campaign

[charred sable]

@buoyant parrot not gonna lie, since Research came about, that's been my main gold source when new banners appear...

[steep fog]

with how shit the pool is

[buoyant parrot]

I don't know how I'll manage... With all this stuff in AL in conjunction with other game I play... Kami-sama please... Have mercy on my wallet...

[steep fog]

I gave up on iroha

to get centaur

[elder crane]

No mercy on wallet-kun Nyaa~

[buoyant parrot]

I can't give up on Cyberangel Bronya...

I just can't

[finite valve]

this is why i save cubes for stupid shit like this instead of doing cubes research

better safe than sorry

[sharp wing]

My cubes almost commit nolife

[steep fog]

im at 240 cubes

[buoyant parrot]

:(

[steep fog]

prolly gonna spend 100 for cent

[sharp wing]

I'm closing on 100 with no Bunny in sight

[steep fog]

I prolly get dace

[buoyant parrot]

The live stream is funny they keep on trying to see what's under lustys dress

Also they removed akagi beach dress bottom sooooo ero

[charred sable]

Sounds like they're a bit... Lusty

[sharp wing]

[buoyant parrot]

But I wanted that Eldridge so bad

For scientific research purposes of course

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[buoyant parrot]

But it's for research. Plus proteccc

[sharp wing]

Put loli down and put your hands up

You want t get zapped that badly

[buoyant parrot]

What seems to be the officer, problem?

[elder crane]

she stops zapping you after a while

[sharp wing]

she wants to sit on my lap

[steep fog]

hmm

do I kai sendai for PR grind

[sharp wing]

I do unkaied

[steep fog]

shes lvl 95 and im so itchy to press the button

[sharp wing]

IJN is tough ugh

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

I know, i have her in love

[steep fog]

also kai a rare is kinda cheap

unlike london

[elder crane]

Just wait til SR rets

[sharp wing]

57k

[buoyant parrot]

Haven't touch my Eldridge since it reached 110 feelsbadman

[sharp wing]

Try special touching her

[elder crane]

Mine's not even 110

[sharp wing]

Mine been 110 a while

[steep fog]

[finite valve]

i only got her to 100

useless if not in pvp

[steep fog]

mine still in the merit shop

[elder crane]

She has some use in EX

[sharp wing]

If only her skill didn't start at 20 sec cd

[steep fog]

im not wasting docc to buy eld and sd

[sharp wing]

[buoyant parrot]

Yeah I mainly use her on some ex mode

[elder crane]

I don't even nowadays
cause I just lazy strat Hel+BBs anyways
Torpteams too much skill/too stressful

Also I don't have the right ships 120 for that

[steep fog]

I dont even do ex

[sharp wing]

ex auto w/ Junie

[steep fog]

bring pvp fleet to auto ex

wonder how it will do

[elder crane]

Pretty sure the last two EXs haven't been autoable at all

[sharp wing]

last one had a phase were auto dies right away

Also i hate bullet hells

[elder crane]

both have easy-dodge that insta-kills

the bullet lazers of Iris and the Black hole of Bis

[sharp wing]

well, previous ex was finish

[elder crane]

Iris EX shouldn't be too hard to do with 0 hits taken by VG

Which means it's prime bulin challenge material

[sharp wing]

idk

not really for me

[tulip summit]

Did PVP in Avrora get borked again?

[elder crane]

I'm shitty at this kinda stuff so I still got hit by the AP star shells half the time, though those do no damage anyways
rest is ez dodge unless I screw up (which I do a lot)

[sharp wing]

The problem was that end thing

[midnight heron]

all servers got borked

[buoyant parrot]

@tulip summit what do you mean?

[tulip summit]

Looking at top 10 rankings lol

[buoyant parrot]

Is there an issue right now with pvp?

[midnight heron]

many ppl with 200+ score

[sharp wing]

ppl get 10 tickets after reset

[midnight heron]

lul

[sharp wing]

as usual

[buoyant parrot]

Oh i didn't notice

[sharp wing]

same old things

[buoyant parrot]

Well they'll fix that like last season

[elder crane]

dw it's all the shitters who got it like usual

[sharp wing]

It never was completely fixed

[midnight heron]

doesnt matter to me anymore cuz i tried sandbagging last 2 season and its tiring af so i stahp

[tulip summit]

Welp another 2 week break then lol

[midnight heron]

but i still notice it

[sharp wing]

forever break

untill seasonal pvp rankings

[elder crane]

probably still one of their servers not on PDT and still on PST

[sharp wing]

rewards

[elder crane]

By the time they fix all the PDT issues DST will be ending anyways

[tulip summit]

Lol right

[sharp wing]

I bet they won't fix it by the next year DST

[buoyant parrot]

I'm excited to abuse it

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

It took them few weeks to fix some stuffs like lecture hall reset issue

[finite valve]

remember to only do 9 tries

since they going to reduce point if do 10+

[sharp wing]

[tulip summit]

[elder crane]

well it was a double-reset or delayed-end/early-end

I ended last night with 2/10 and now I'm 5/10

So the extra matches weren't just given out

Just start season at 0/10 and adjust accordingly

should fix most issues and gives a 12H window to just reset all to 0 to fix any shenanigans

[sharp wing]

just give 300 score start to everyone and 1st reset 0 tix

[elder crane]

and then also remove the positional bs
and instead make entering PvP cost 1 score

[sharp wing]

remove bonuses

no sandbag

restart doesn't refund points

[elder crane]

Yep cost deducted on entry
Probably upadjust reward to balance out

[tulip summit]

Add manual play. Bonus points if you win with auto lol

[sharp wing]

And give tix once a day with daily reset

[elder crane]

Would be a start to making a proper PvP

[sharp wing]

Wonder if they ever looked how pvp works in other games

[elder crane]

I don't think they care about PvP much anymore

[steep fog]

hopefully this is enough to get centaur

[sharp wing]

Well, they don't

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

But they still made it

[tulip summit]

I mean it really hasnt changed lol

[sharp wing]

I'm gonna really skip Cent...

[tulip summit]

It's pretty much just a checkbox they ticked off it feels like

[elder crane]

They used to care at start
Even adjusted ships to work differently in PvP (see WS)
But now I'm pretty sure they just go, "whatever lol"

[steep fog]

cant skip cent

[elder crane]

Maybe the guy who cared left team

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

well, can't skip perma ship

[elder crane]

Cent is perma and so that's a consolation if you skip event rate up

[steep fog]

well

some guy took 7months to get her

[sharp wing]

Rate up is a lie anywya

[steep fog]

outside rate up

[finite valve]

provided that you get her before cranes become perma

[sharp wing]

I mean, Aurora took me all the way to wishing well since Septembewr...

[steep fog]

[finite valve]

with cranes in the pool is going to get so bloated

[steep fog]

I got 3 aurora from light

vampire took me 7 months

[tulip summit]

I'm still missing I-56

[sharp wing]

I got em from event

vamp, atago, PoW

before rerun even

[steep fog]

also might as well build special

[finite valve]

the z force event took me 60 cubes for atago and vampy

[sharp wing]

If you even call it rerun

[finite valve]

pow drop on 1 run of the map

[steep fog]

im missing dace atago from special too

[finite valve]

[elder crane]

Eyy another lucky person with PoW

I got her dropped 2nd run

[steep fog]

gonna get pow from anni

[sharp wing]

Atago is Heavy/Special tho

[steep fog]

cos who tf build heavy

[finite valve]

cus aber lel

[elder crane]

Higher chance for Atago in Heavy
Although all the new stuff is in special anyways

[finite valve]

been fishing for that bitch since forever

[elder crane]

Well minus aber and sussex

[finite valve]

been 2 months already

[sharp wing]

Cause for some reason EX-Event perma ships never made it to events Heavy pool, unlike newly added perma ships

[elder crane]

I pulled those in 5 pulls

[steep fog]

huh

u can get new special pool ship in event?

[elder crane]

sometimes

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

Even HEavy has sussex/aber etc

[elder crane]

depends on event and ship afaik

Bis cons could drop sussex

[steep fog]

I know I got spooked by sussex

[sharp wing]

Well, Cause she is ex-event and not in limiteds

[elder crane]

but no reports of aber in Bis afaik

[steep fog]

got like 5 copies of her

in event

was like fuck idw u

[finite valve]

wonder if they even put aber in there

like 0 SS of her

[sharp wing]

aber is very rare overall

bloated elite pools...

[finite valve]

akashi is another rare shit

[steep fog]

u sure akashi even exist

[finite valve]

0 SS even in JP CN

[sharp wing]

Never actually built or seen akshi built

[steep fog]

no SS exists ever

[finite valve]

like how tf the original server still haven't got 1 SS of her drop in build?

[steep fog]

theres jp screenshot

[finite valve]

like really?

[sharp wing]

Well, Aurora didn't exist for me too so

[steep fog]

its only en bug

[finite valve]

even in JP or CN akashi is still fucking rare

[steep fog]

doesnt even exist in EN

thats the issue

u scrap her then its over

or maybe u can only build her after u scrap her

[sharp wing]

She is useless anyway

[elder crane]

Someone saw Akashi in EN once, or so I heard

[sharp wing]

It's either vestal or cvls healers

[elder crane]

All I remember was that they guy who said that, I mostly trusted

[sharp wing]

hmm

[elder crane]

said he saw it in the chat

[sharp wing]

I sit in a ded room

[elder crane]

I've unironically used Akashi quite a few times actually

[steep fog]

my akashi is 110

[elder crane]

mostly for pre-danger-level stuff

well levels on the repair ships aren't as important as on most other ships

Since AA and healing are unaffected

they do no damage anyways and don't often take damage themselves

[steep fog]

it matters on akashi

[sharp wing]

Well, for akashi it increases her effectivenewss due to increasing hp pool

[elder crane]

By like a teeny amount

[sharp wing]

and her heal is based off of hp pool

[elder crane]

Plus most of her heal is the consumable anyways

[sharp wing]

not like +5 heal matters

[elder crane]

proc it 20 times on a map and woot, that's 100 HP!

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

wtf

she heals like 100 hp per proc

without paw

[elder crane]

I mean for the extra heal from more HP from higher level

Pretty much 0 impact

unless it's like 50 levels of difference lol

[sharp wing]

Akashi gets +600 hp 100-120 and heal takes 3%, so 18 heal increase + her paw 21.6 total increase for 20 vls

[elder crane]

Oh wow that's almost 500 HP!
Across 20 procs of her heal skill, which pretty much never happens

[sharp wing]

to get double heal in 1 battle ...

70 sec

[finite valve]

not like vestal matter IF your VG don't die

both AR are whatever for the most part

[sharp wing]

Well, Vestal help main too

but that's like ch10

only

[elder crane]

Well if you're VG isn't dying your fleet is overpowered for the map
Mostly for ch12+ imo

cause otherwise it's hard to stack enough AA in a 3 ship fleet

[sharp wing]

Well, Vestal is mostly for AA shenanigans

[steep fog]

well

u run AA on akashi too

[sharp wing]

well you could

[elder crane]

Yeah no paw even

[sharp wing]

vestal takes 3 aa without any reductions

[finite valve]

i find the whole debate between which AR is better is redundant tbh

[elder crane]

Well she loses the 15 heal every 5

[finite valve]

use vestal IF your VG are dying

akashi for everything else

[sharp wing]

Just don't use Akashi

[elder crane]

Also Vestal if your AR is dying

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

ARs also have passive heal

[elder crane]

in general if a specific ship is dying then Vestal obvs better

[finite valve]

my point exactly

[elder crane]

If you need a general trickle of HP Akashi better

[finite valve]

so comparing between the 2 AR are just whatever imo

[elder crane]

Akashi also has the VG reload buff but lol on that

[steep fog]

generally 3 emergency repair is enough

[sharp wing]

If no1 is dying, there no point to run AR in the 1syt place

[elder crane]

Well AA

[steep fog]

vg reload buff is actually not too bad on CA

[elder crane]

Slap one AR and you don't have to care about AA anymore

[sharp wing]

Well, that only matters for 12+

[elder crane]

Actually reload buff matters more on high-reload ships since it's %

[finite valve]

w13 absolutely req an AR for lethal mob fleet full clear

[steep fog]

not rly

[sharp wing]

CLs mostly benefit from reload

Autoloader is their dps aux

[steep fog]

reload has rly high diminishing return iirc

[elder crane]

DDs actually
reload time scales with reload+100 which means lower reload ships get less out of a % reload buff

[sharp wing]

every stat has diminishing returns at high values

[elder crane]

also the diminishing returns don't work that way

the square root on reload stat just means that (approx) all %-buffs are halved

but the effect of a % buff ignoring the +100 is the same at all reloads

[steep fog]

60% of 2m on ibuki

im almost there

[elder crane]

And since there is a +100 a %-buff matters more for high-reload ships

[steep fog]

should I use mail oil

[sharp wing]

I have hard time w/ IJN

MY Cls bit underlvled

[steep fog]

to finish 100%

[sharp wing]

farming Poi w/ it atm

[elder crane]

up until the point at which animation CDs start kicking in (in terms of for scaling)

[steep fog]

chad grind in 12-4

[sharp wing]

At least they are cheap

[steep fog]

no point going cheap

[sharp wing]

Jin not found yet

[steep fog]

gonna get bunnies to 120

[sharp wing]

too bad Abukuma is useless for Cl team...

I like her retro a lot

[steep fog]

got sendai but not jintsuu

wtf

[sharp wing]

Sendai is ez

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

Got her before full clear

[steep fog]

I took more runs to get sendai than jintsuu

[sharp wing]

she's not boss drop

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

naka is best fox

kawaii af

[steep fog]

also theres w10 sos

I got another jintsuu from it

[sharp wing]

I want Naka retro

That artist only has those 3 Sendai class ships and 2 already have retro hmmm....

But Naka best girl

[steep fog]

dorming lusty to 120

[sharp wing]

My dorm is still sub dock

[steep fog]

I only camp u81 there

havent decided on the other 2

[sharp wing]

I got my subs ready for previous week weekly tho

[steep fog]

I can do sub weekly already

[sharp wing]

well, I only care for I boats and Surc

Not bothered w/ U boats

[steep fog]

I may swap to i13 i19 alba

[sharp wing]

I did 1st week sub weekleis w/ U boats...

that's awful

[steep fog]

sub weekly with uboat is cancer

I manualled my ass off

[sharp wing]

they are paper floats

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

uss/I boats it is

I boats has very good hp/eva and oxy balance

Surc is just if you need facetank boss

and just shoot it down

[steep fog]

do I break pinata

to finish PR

[sharp wing]

nah

[steep fog]

after im done with PR

im gonna stop sortie

and just do oil comm

[sharp wing]

I already do it for coins

needs to get that bunny in last day

Elites fck me up each event

[steep fog]

need to get my CAs to 120

and pvp fleet

and CVs

and torp meme

[sharp wing]

Need to get everything at 120

I only have pvp at 120

[steep fog]

aya still stuck at 110

[elder crane]

Oh huh I have to take that back
Effect of a %-reload buff has about equal/greater effect on CL gun on CL as DD gun on DD
CAs with CA guns still are the worst off though

DD guns have a significantly higher fraction of the time spent on hard CDs (about 1/4 vs the 1/10 or so of other guns - notable exception Louis gun at about 1/6 instead)

[sharp wing]

yeah, CLs are pretty good w/ reload buffs

with CL guns that is

Never was DD focus iirc

[steep fog]

need to get this powerhouse to 120

[sharp wing]

ohboi

[steep fog]

she out dmg sanrui on w8 hm

[sharp wing]

lol

[steep fog]

well granted sanrui not dev 30 yet

only 28

[sharp wing]

well still

[vague token]

dev 30 is important for sanrui

damage

level 2 barrage and 15% efficiency

[elder crane]

Hmm, that means Louis gun gets about 15-20% less benefit from reload buffs compared to Roon gun

more reason to run Roon gun on Roon I suppose

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

wait lol no my math is high

[sharp wing]

Wichita is RNG tho

[steep fog]

gonna get her to 120 too

for that deeps

[vague token]

ill wait and see if baltimore is good xD

[sharp wing]

Sanrui has stable + HE damage

And sanrui has higher fp

[steep fog]

baltimore should be offensive based

[elder crane]

ehh just a <5% diff actually

[steep fog]

prolly new t0

[elder crane]

ignore it all

[sharp wing]

\Nah

[vague token]

roon gun is good, sanrui gun just has that crazy 130 coefficient xD

[steep fog]

120 mog

shes pretty tanky

[sharp wing]

She has shit luck tho

[elder crane]

Ignoring armor mods base DpS of Roon gun is a quite significant chunk higher than Louis gun
You'd have to always land most of the barrage of Roon more or less for Louis gun to be better on damage potential

[sharp wing]

and from own experience low luck ships in pve really much less survivable

[steep fog]

not rly

[sharp wing]

I ran a lot of comps with about equal stat ships, but diff luck

[steep fog]

I use her without much trouble in w11-12

[sharp wing]

and even ships few few lvls advantage and middle slot took much more damage with lower luck

well, Mogami just good

[elder crane]

At 70-80% evarate (before cap) the 0.1% per point of luck is worth around 0.3-0.5% eHP

peaks at 1% eHP per point of luck right before hitting the evasion rate hard cap - though CAs never reach this point when it matters basically

[steep fog]

with her ijn tier eva shes still plenty tanky

[sharp wing]

Well, i'm talking in general, not about Mogamin specifically

overall she's comparable Portkai

[vague token]

she should be tankier, 20% ap reduction is useful in pve

[steep fog]

also this brick in w12 carries hard in boss fleet

[sharp wing]

Port has high luck tho

and def buff

[elder crane]

and a looot higher luck

[steep fog]

with that said

[vague token]

i mean, at 120 their evades are comparable

but yeah luck

xD

[steep fog]

she nearly died when I tried auto 12-4 lethal

[sharp wing]

yeah, i mean luck

[elder crane]

the luck alone is like 20% more eHP multiplier

[steep fog]

like portkai

nearly died

at 120

[sharp wing]

I seen luck as big advantage in pve auto

probably torped?

[steep fog]

12-4 dmg on the lead vg is massive

[vague token]

i use minne so

xD

[steep fog]

and I ran torp buldge + rudder

[sharp wing]

lol

[elder crane]

Minnie's less tanky

[sharp wing]

Minne isn't tanky

[vague token]

that's ok

[steep fog]

prolly better with beaver + rudder

[vague token]

she hunt

[steep fog]

but beaver went to someone else

[sharp wing]

minne is dps

[steep fog]

didnt get enough back then

[sharp wing]

She has good luck tho

[vague token]

her aa is oddly high for a non-retro ca

[steep fog]

now I used port wichita monty

only the finest gunbote

[vague token]

ill probably swap to london though

297 aa, big dd gun

[sharp wing]

Well, those retro with high AA already had high aa pre retro

[steep fog]

good thing in w12 is the middle ship takes little dmg

due to little to no torp

torp splash dmg is cancer

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

if only elegant kizuna hit like 80 evade

[sharp wing]

They just piss me off

Kizu bb and ca

Being top tier among 100 lvl and trash among 120s

[steep fog]

big question: do I retro cassin

[sharp wing]

Big yes

[vague token]

yes

[sharp wing]

I have em both retroed

[vague token]

cassin and downes are hard workers

retro

[steep fog]

I still kept my 0lb pair

never used the mlb one

[sharp wing]

I have 0lb w/ 2 retro nodes

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

I used mlb ones a lot, esp post retro

phoenix+retrozomb for hard stuff

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

when minne cannot solo that is

[steep fog]

I rather get more exp on ykkz

[vague token]

adds cheap evade and scouting

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

ykk already maxed and 200 aff

and it was far before ykk

[steep fog]

this is biggest oof

I abandoned chinaball

[sharp wing]

I have em same 108-107

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

and they auto max danger 12 bosses

[steep fog]

after investing so much in them

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

only used them for w11 boss

[waxen dawn]

How is this possible with only 5 attacks?

[vague token]

i like not being timed out jk

[steep fog]

ditched them for superior CA dps w12

[sharp wing]

That's bug w/ 10 tickets after reset

It "might" get fixed

I want to see under 110 CA auto ch12 boses on max danger to that

[steep fog]

well

I had 115 portkai

no point using cnball

[sharp wing]

I actually abandoned siskon

[steep fog]

portkai carried hard in my w12 clear

[sharp wing]

I did w12 with pvp fleet to lvl em

Haven't done it since

[steep fog]

for mobbing w12 I used sandy lol

[sharp wing]

I'm lvling Isuzu

[steep fog]

also lvl monarch up from 90 to 120 clearing w12

[sharp wing]

lol

[steep fog]

used monarch uni AR sandy

w12 mobbing was so ez

[sharp wing]

I'm stuck at mines atm

[steep fog]

that underlvl monarch works

well

I only miss isuzu

got the rest of the bote

eeeh

jenkins too

[sharp wing]

Not like i play Al outside dailies, sos and events

PVP actually makes you actually login more, than ocne a day

[steep fog]

well

I just realized

[sharp wing]

looking at my low lvl list with despair

and 0 refreshes

[steep fog]

I only have 2 mag torps after 7 months of playing

[sharp wing]

I have rainbow and 2 golds

1 gold i farmed

and got em only during event

not single quad gold after event ended

[steep fog]

I had to use 610mm quad

in pvp

[sharp wing]

better off with 533

[steep fog]

was dark time

533 is worse than 610

[sharp wing]

in what way

[steep fog]

the spread pattern

[sharp wing]

533 has better spread

[steep fog]

533 doesnt hit shit

[sharp wing]

better reload

[steep fog]

610 can lucky potshot backline

[sharp wing]

yes

610 has 4 torps in 50 spread and 533 5 torps in 60

[steep fog]

I ran both b4

[sharp wing]

610 has more chances to miss backline position imo

[steep fog]

and 533 doesnt hit shit

[sharp wing]

for anything not manual 533 just better

[steep fog]

pvp is an unique case

remnant of the dark time

[sharp wing]

Also in pvp yr ship might not live extra 2 secs to fire second 610 salvo compared to 533

Tho on 120 with higher reload it's less of issue

[vague token]

i saw a 120 ibuki running those

they all missed

big oof

[sharp wing]

putting not homings on ibuki w/ 2 preloads

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

Yeah 610s pretty much always whiffs VG
And idk what you guys are on about 533 homing, those hit main decently often

more than 610s

[sharp wing]

well, we were comparing w/ non homings

[elder crane]

oh makes sense then

[sharp wing]

533 are reffered to regular

[elder crane]

I'd rather take quint gold mags imo over 533 regular or 610s

though I suppose it's possible to not have enough of those either

[sharp wing]

I have none of those

[elder crane]

also question: when's the last time y'all got gold magtorps from a box?
I haven't gotten any for like 4-5 months now I think

[sharp wing]

Only got 1 during event

not single quad or quint after

[elder crane]

I got a ton around and after the event

and ofc the purples are a flood

[sharp wing]

purp quints are pure garbo tho

quads are usable

[elder crane]

purp quads are as good as purp mags get
but are still pretty trash

[midnight heron]

got enuf to gear pvp fleet but not anywhere else

[sharp wing]

Junie torps

[elder crane]

lucky enough to have two spare quads on my end

[midnight heron]

tf lul

[sharp wing]

wtf

[vague token]

i only have extra quints

=/

[sharp wing]

I don't even have gold quint

[elder crane]

and I didn't even save boxes

[sharp wing]

lol

[elder crane]

on who?

[sharp wing]

time outs

[elder crane]

sec to 90, 1-1 to 100?

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

huh interesting
she still gets affection?

I suppose 1-1 is just too weak

[sharp wing]

lose or win, still affection

[elder crane]

so who's low affection line will you be able to hear/are hearing

[sharp wing]

Shipgirl abuse

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

aww no "お兄ちゃん…最低…"

[coral wren]

guess who showed up in my lineup again

surprisingly not blue, but Syanda this time

[elder crane]

oh wtf how

[coral wren]

[elder crane]

oh nvm then

[coral wren]

I’ll give it later this week

[elder crane]

I'm in the few-ks so it'd be weird to see me

[coral wren]

Until you show up again

Maybe the algorithm couples accounts made close to each other?

Or User IDs

[sharp wing]

nah

I get low lvls full list and i play since September

Spent all refreshes already

Missing 1st 10 mins after reset is tough

[midnight heron]

halp

[vague token]

oh dear

[sharp wing]

Well, not even t1s

lmao

I'm skilling 3 slots all the time, but i got plenty t2/1 books

[vague token]

ill go under 100 red t2s soon but i have t3s still xD

[sharp wing]

I use t3s as priority

Well, mostly for sleep time

But also for day

Just so it doesn't end mid of night

[elder crane]

I just use T1/2 Blue/Yellow books on red skills for ships I'm not in a rush on
If I'm low on red books that is

[coral wren]

Am I the only one lacking in T3 red books here?

Meanwhile my T3 blue and yellow books are piled to the ceiling

[sharp wing]

I lack all t3 books

Using Mikuma for buki grind atm

And she has CA like eva growth.... 36 at 100

[vague token]

oof

she'll tooootally get a retro

eventually

[sharp wing]

soon

She is basically undergunned CA

Her torps are a joke, her AA is a joke, her luck is a joke

Will get her to 70, mlb for bonus and forget

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

She has 13 luck, is that a sign?

[vague token]

more like a curse

[sharp wing]

but she is waifu nonetheless

[vague token]

[finite valve]

every ship is a waifu if you have a fetish for it

[lament lichen]

mutsuki is someones waifu

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[stoic skiff]

best waifu

[dense lynx]

why are there guys with 200+ pts already

[sharp wing]

Bug, some ppl still get 10 tix after reset. It was never fixed

They will fix scores soon

[dense lynx]

did they found out the pvp bug?

[sharp wing]

Which one

[dense lynx]

this pvp bug

are the devs aware~

[sharp wing]

Yes

[dense lynx]

[sharp wing]

They fix those scores almost each season

But bug itself still persists

[shell heron]

yay 2nd reset into the new season and nobody moved

time to refresh my list

[vague token]

same

[sharp wing]

I was out of refreshes on 1st reset...

[cosmic iron]

do you guys refresh for higher ranked opponents or just don’t refresh?

[sharp wing]

i refresh when i get full set of lvl sub 50 ppl

[cosmic iron]

ic

Is that for exp gains?

or are newbies just lower rank in general?

[sharp wing]

newbies just don't pvp in general

Or can't beat fleets

and stay low rank

Usually if i'm awake after 1st season reset, i refresh right after reset to get into sandbaggers

[cosmic iron]

but if their rank os high enough wouldn’t it boost yours or is there something im missing?

[sharp wing]

So i get eazy 140 score ppl

[cosmic iron]

What if you meet a really high rank lvl 50

[sharp wing]

You cannot just meet high rank player out of refresh

you refresh around own rank

Or if you know you got full sandbag list

More of miss

[cosmic iron]

ohhh

so its good to beat people who are also going to climb ranks?

[sharp wing]

Erm

You need a Score difference of at least 35 to get bpnus points

each 35 diff gives 1 bonus point

So you need to wait till ppl push

[cosmic iron]

@~@

[sharp wing]

last couple seasons were so dead, you wouldn't get bonus points with up to 1k rank diff

second half of season

PvP is ALs second gacha

[cosmic iron]

so im in avrova, what are my chances of getting the top 1k

[sharp wing]

OH RIP

Avrora

[cosmic iron]

so uh

[sharp wing]

Abandon hope all ye who enter here

[cosmic iron]

can I just spam the highest raked person each set and get somewhere or do I have to pick carefully?

[sharp wing]

You just need to predict person will push

You gotta know some sandbaggers by name

[cosmic iron]

[sharp wing]

Well, don't expect to get anywhere near top end of season on Avrora, when you starting out

practice a bit for now

[vague token]

once you get some experience you can casual your way up to top 100

[sharp wing]

Well, top 100 is whatever

till you can beat 120 namayuus

The Cancer

idk how is yr state of game

If you are just starting out...

top 1k might be a thing

befre you get walled

IDk if you can beat any 120 if you starting out

AS i said, need more info on state of game

[elder crane]

Yeah I remember starting out in CN where 1:1 120 beat my ass as a lv 70-80 team

[sharp wing]

And to get 100+ takes some times in low worlds

And not like you can beat anything 120 w/ 100s

And then chips, credits and other stuff takes a while.....

So ye

[elder crane]

Yeah I'd say for proper team vs proper team 10-15 levels average diff is as far as you can push it

Jun

[sharp wing]

Well, how many ppl actually use ryuu in pve

[elder crane]

And yeah also Hiryuu

[cosmic iron]

I'll do my best

[elder crane]

Though dragons isn't too bad

[sharp wing]

I like, that Soryuu is diver focused

their pair works good

[cosmic iron]

My backline is 120

Aurora and Juneau though...

[elder crane]

Well unless it's for mobs

[cosmic iron]

@~@