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oh alright
It's slower than comet iirc
comet is probably better than that lol
By a bit
maybe if AP ratios
were like 50% relative to HE
on heavy
then they'd be worth it
in most scenarios
xD
ofc its royal navy
Oh it's 24% for break

oh, actually that isnt as bad
Dmg is hilariously bad
sounds like sara
still bad

maaaaybe
yup
lol
honestly sara is the only one who could use that
because escort boost
into armor break
is the only thing that would even make sense
all other carriers wouldnt have anyone to boost
because they're slower than all other damage types
Oh nvm it's a teeny bit faster than comet
oh, that makes it better than comet then
god bless uss new event
having a 1600 bomb gets your hit rate higher ;)
And armor mods I remembered being worse than it actually is
Still just 1 1600 is shiiiiit
Pretty sure comet is much better
stella's new meme is sara eh now that daxam qe is gone 
Also there might be question on it's AoE radius
No idea on that

Might not have the same AoE or dispersion of normal 1600
Not that bad I suppose, maybe
cos it was meta at some point
It’s thing is the armor break it seems, but why would you event want it in pve
armor break is more useful in pve
Essex was more meta than Taihou
Shit dmg regardless
i mean in namagi fleets
and since carriers dont do damage in pve
You can stack timings manually in PvE much better
essex meta was with uss iirc
I mean if taihoe is a good carrier, you can just slap her next to nagato and gave a decent setup
Taihou was never high in meta
Essex reached toptier at one point
Though yeah tbf on Namagi carrying Taihou

Trash ho
Wasnt’t essex top tier before amagi came out?
other than hiryu
Like a hard counter for foxes and e
Well it was used in WaSD
Back when that was among top meta
JP ofc never saw that meta
1
1 like ykkz
Yes
Only plane munitions
she useless vs namaryuu so wtv
what kills u is kamikaze anyways
essex doesnt cver that
Well covers the VG fully vs planes
Everything non meta is useless vs meta, geez
But yeah Essex is anti-CV
amagi came too early in en
Even questionable if vs solo-Enty
Or basically Essex was only ever good cause Akaga was at one point
And ofc WaSD since her USN req
still alot of akaga in avrora
u can switch teams for memeing
if only her skill
covers from bbs too
would be retarded

Much lower for main
sigh another validation of that, "amagi probs would still be good with no barrage"
well ykkz is always bad against nagato barrage tho
ykk is still better than all other ships
25% to nope out compared to only evade roll
Idk I've had her eat those and laugh a time or two
Ykkz that is
Point-blank and head-on

kgv laughs at big seven 
Also ofc have had ykkz eat big7 and get deleted from high HP
She's RNG like that 
i mean biscuit does 54% less aux gun damage, not including defense penalty
so
yeah
hooloo
she's there to win shelling fights xD
too bad the damage adjustments arent by weapon
in pvp
biscuit with +20% cl gun damage

defense biscuit is probably like -80% damage cause of penalty stacking
and only aux+1
xD
compared to any other bb
Perhaps they fixed her


they havent chnged description in wiki yet
its alrdy decided she only gets ine
one
oof
hmm she fires 3x
last tims nagato dies at least

when i tagged u
yea i moved kgv cos i renamed her
derp math

to be fair
hooloos fleet is resilient to bb
but when hiryuu starts rolling
your ships go out in flames

Making it +1 woukd be an ass move from devs
yea hiryuu with ryuuseis 
no, but she's pr
Probably 152PR thingy
Tirpitz fires quad mag every 15s anyway
i doubt it has the base damage of quad mag
Yeah they all lose a sec for torps
Or range for bis
that's not a good trade
xD
amagi gets torps on her barrage
is a bc
still gets +2
;)
she fires too fasr
We need a bb with londonkai quirk
Iirc it is base dmg of quad mag
But no slot eff mod and low torp means dmg is shit
she can even tank 3 bomb ships
oh
ijn master faction
ijn masterrace
xD
Wtf
When did I ever use a +10 RN 152 on amagi...
I swear thats supposed to be a tbtsk
chad ijn vs virgin other factions
And uss still has no flagship

While ijn has 2 of them
IJN has some of the most powerful ships tho
Like compare tirp and, say, Jun launching torps
Tirp has no eff mod and, what, 200 torp stat?
Juneau has also shit ~200 but has 135 mod
Which mean Jun torps hit 1/3 harder
oof
Oof
Now compare shooting secs
Tirp does like almost 10X more dmg
i mean tirp is gonna do more aux damage than everything lol
Well jun torps will never fire as fast as tirp torps 
But jun fires closer too for higher hitrate

actually wait

Oh I did forget dmg buff
30% damage boost doesnt push 2x aux
Sorry tirp torps hit as hard as jun's, woot

You always almost lose to hiryuu teams
Provided you dont have level adv
Now compare something real like Aurora, Bel, Sheff
Who do like almost 2X more damage on torps than tirp
Then compare torpships
Ykkz does like 3+X
like, i GUESS mag torps cover the other 40% damage missing from 2 * 1.3
Basically tirp torps tickle
Speaking of Bel why is she appearing again in all of the metaslaves’ lineups
I just saw a Hiryuu mid team 
Gg Sendai
can help with first big seven
Yeah it better be a meme or misplacement
after that no more
Like many of those not super serious can't even field a 120 fleet yet
Well, serious on playing, a few serious-on-guide/theorycraft don't have many 120s
Blue why do I always fight you like once every other day in my lineup
btw

I switched bel for aurora, no regrets so far
Probably cause we have similar climbing habits 
What's your IGN?
owo
hey, i acknowledge the fact that my fleet is trash on defense because of dem penalties
and im ok with that
ditch sara
(also biscuit only +1 aux gun)

soon
just waiting for essex

if only there was a tennessee kai so i could use another debuff bb
Killed the amagi a milisecond before it could unleash a 3rd barrage
The belfast is a bit annoying as an akaga user tho -_-

Does sanrui have more dmg than nep?
nep should do more damage on vg because of angle?
115 vs 38
so she can always be shooting
sanrui will obviously do more on a Per Hit Basis, assuming she can aim at them
sanrui has 100 more fp too
but 21 less hit
strangely sanrui also has 26 more reload
not that it matters
the thing about neptune is
u dont really use her outside hms teams

the most optimal neptune is still with queen crap
in fact i wont even use both prs without full hms
Wasnt there a theorycraft not too long ago about neptune in namaryuu team
neptune might be better as long as aurora isnt there
like her heal is instant and covers the hp difference between her and sanrui
advantage is her high aa
recent development for azuma is 127 over 138 for the aa
since hiryuu's divebombers still hurt

I think the extra aa is quite good
but en probably whichever is d30 or the amount of auroras
my neptune is in her way to d30
i was about to say i thought they were using fdg, but that's probably out of reach of most
fdg no better than hiryuu until max
pretty sure this was tested through magical means
I've been out but I'll see who hits top 10
also move now and not fail like me last time
@vague token currently on 6 right now
im playing other games so i used everything a bit ago
to be fair
i didnt sleep on any matches this time
like i usually do
xD
casual power
fkin gafalrion
oof
dont worry kiro
top 13 when i slept on 4
nope Novae stole r1

5 more minutes
fam is still pushing
stall stall stall stall 
oooh 2606 r1
rip kiro 
xD
had to sacrifice some +1 for decent sleeps
why ppl getting more and more op
im a casual

what do you want from me ;)
2590 rank 10 wat
Welp, ended at 2517 score
to take pics
Washington 
kiro ended at 14
let me swap server to wash 




5 seconds before end
GGs
its only Stella and Me from here who went top 10 :(

u forgot sumire
oh good!
day 3 
vysaga also dropped
the power of sleep
welp as usual I'm out this season :)

ok time to catch rushers
be back the next one
im also out this season
oh ether also
me going to ca

stella buy me a 1/1 gundam scale figure
kiro we can get in top10 maybe 
on one hand top 10 will be easier this season
on the other hand, where's the fun without competition
i mean
Dropped since i was busy the past two days
it isnt really competition ;)
we're getting event soon also so these plebs gonna be distracted 
^
are we gonna get free promised rings this EN 1st anniv
it is when sandbaggers have each other on the same list
Found kiro on wash 
Also
but does he use biscuit
161 top score in avora
what
Hello??
wait what
Sugar Stars
Enty Amagi Sara 
bug again 
bugged again lul
Genbu at 132
wait what?
they never fixed it
Yeah time to ditch
no way can get 160 while rushing lol
yea the last 2 times
Lol
if rushing
or 3
Rush hour

damn, why couldn't I get that rusher on my list
Guess its time to rush
will prob be fixed later
Oh god its 170 now
buggers just took last season off 
Actually alot of people have bugged scores
170, 161 and 145
No one hits 130 this early
personally im fine with then buggers
wait a little more we might get 200+
if one of us get a bugger, more bonus points for us 
Being high up early on is a curse
every reset
It just boosts the early scores
unless u get bugged on the day of eos
i remember 1 time , got match up with top 1 with 220 bug score = gave me +38
they r kind souls who boost other's score
lol
Then you normalize like crazy
well my list is pretty quiet. guess I go back to my usual strat of 2nd reset
first my dailies
if the season is starting off spicy, I'll make it hard for casuals too
GL anyone not using 120 meta fleets

yeah im just gonna put my team up
Rush to the top
The real daxam
daxam's apprentice
I'm leabving my fleet as is
Cant be his apprentice ifvhe uses meta def
daxxam betrayed hms

Never gonna fix
2 seasons ago they removed these overscored ppl
they prolly do it this time
it doesnt really solve the problem of faulty
code tho
lol
I haven't eaten yet. Time to eat then :D
i prefer pork blood stew with steamed rice cake isnt it @buoyant parrot
hey its a native / exotic delicacy here in our country ( but some religious group doesnt eat or banned them though )
stella what country are u from / live
eu
oh i thought ur from southeast region
my work is at jst time
i work in a japanese corporation

im thinking of moving to a new job tho
ill be a normal person again
prolly quit al

maybe a suicide vest tester on middle east?
Ah shit! Here we go again
its in game v easy to spot
i love halfgraveyard shift hey
im allowed to use phone and play at work

yeah, but it'll be easier for the staff when i can hand them a list of names and go "these guys have bugged scores"
I've got avrora
First 4 on avovra is bugged
Casuals
also note im rank 972 at 114, so many rushers 
Too many people with 137 scores already
Just got 138
@stark raft don't you remember if zephyxion a sandbagger or not?
You can have like a 120 start and probably end up top 10 if you sandbagged good enough
Zephyxion? i think he sandbags @coral wren
Due to more people giving you more chances for bonus
Ye, ok. Thank you
First 4 for sure. 140 seems possible...maybe
And agree on gettting top 10 even with a bad start. If I didnt drop 4 last season with an extra one on purpose.
I could have gotten top 10 if i kept sandbagging
Difficult but possible
very possible since I've done that last season
And my average starts is around 146 +/- 3
3 rushers in a row can get you 140+ easily
its easy toget x4 30 points
I generally start with 150+ but that just ends up with some resets eith no bonus
true sandbagger score
Or not. It was kinda nice not sandbagging for once 

dont think about it
not sandbagging is like drugs
u becomd unproductive
and never sandbag properly again


Someone on rehab
xD
Become a master sandbagger and you'll upgrade to become a teabagger
keripo
youve stopped sandbagging hav u

i never saw u for like alot of seasons alrdy
yeah, work + Anime Expo + life
I've more or less given up 
miss too many attacks
I'm also far more interested in the theorycrafting aspect of PvP than the actual execution 
you need both
theorycrafting and execution
and until i get 3 more nepguns I can't test

For obtaining Gensui, I'd argue theorycrafting is optional if you have a template to follow
@balmy torrent what's your major?
Backtrack a bit: are you in school right now or previously in school
well I'll be damned... remember I said earlier I'm missing 2 subs... here they are now...
Go computer engineering
That should drop a lot of the math heavy requirements
That's what I did at least xD
Industry treats computer science degree and computer engineering degree to be equivalent for the most part
namaryuu is as braindead as it gets wdym 

braindead is good

i finally fought someone worthy last season end
kurisuokabe forced me to reset twice
the guy has weird planes in hiryuu
also got louis
rng is rng

i successfully gensui'd without fighting a namaryuu comp at all last season
another kiro clone
hah.
i can already heAR DOKU MITERUYO 
top 13 with 4 slept on tickets
i could've gone top 1 
time to add more alarms
or add a sara 
Well, you are in wash?
It's like least competitive atm
Tho i made it in top 10 at the very end of season w/ few missed tickets on Sandy fewt imes too
got jebaited, 143 this reset 😦
Troll fleet assembled 
I still has no movement on lsit... I only get good results when refreshing right after reset
But sleep kappa
Closing on 100 cubes, but Bunny sub nowhere to be seen 
5/25 on 2nd nepgun, 17/25 for 2nd staag 
Now i wonder if centaur will fit into aur team
It only works w/ BB/Cs w/ 406, maybe with triple 381 w/ fast planes. But for those guns to not hir into rudders skill you need HSFCR too. It's like accursed circle


the real hms starts from there
Inb4 WSkai + Namagi, foxes and what not on earth

so i can do both meta and hms

i have the chips
just not feeding them
they can stay hungry 
I think if cent launch will be at 18 secs mark monarch will land a barrageand some salvos, but ws gets cucked quite hard. 15 secs barrage and 21 secs for 406
i think
you can sync cent for kgv's 2nd salvo
I haven't done the calcs yet cause I'd favor cent for PvE
my pvp fleet is just kinda random for now, but who is more viable? takao or prinz?
Indeed, she fires way too late
@ashen silo both are not really recommended but i'd pick takao if there's no other choice
or maybe prinz for meme tanking idk

None of those are pvp viable
i know, i just don't have any other ships
hmm i wont worry about pvp yet if i were you cos underlevelled/undergeared
portland/laffey/takao should be fine for now
im using portland laffey takao yeah
Well, 2CA vg is pretty not optimal
and if you plan on tryharding pvp, better start raising juneau 
But, yeah, there not much choice for you anyway
Well, I pvped 8 months without Junie just fine
Look for pvp tierlist in pinned messages and get idea of comp you want and start working towards it
should update hms comps there 

i did, ty ty
I actually haven't looked at it for like month or more
doing it slowly but yeah gonna do a -takao +helena soon™

plebs
found the true daxam successor
honestly my fleet is ripe for a USS meta, praying for a nagato-like USS ship Iowa

I need to lvl my Baka
Don't get your hopes too high
That's just IRL event
isn't sandy retro coming pretty soon
around anniv they say

Can retro later
She needs 57k for retro total
and 3 fodder
and 1 event item
also a lot of plates
my only problem is coins
tier list needs an update
cos who knows how expensive will cent be
I still need bunny sub and i'm out of coins and getting low on cubes 
And for some reason it ends tomorrow, not on Wednesday
hood monarch qe t 1.5, lmao
im missing i-25 also kek
i want them t5
LOL
idk i swapped out of that comp after like 5 fights
didnt like rng heavy comp
At the very least ws qe and monarch would work way better
And if you want a solid shit you just pick kgv over monkey

monkey 
That's very questionable, but ok
Monkey, abomination, le creatura call it however you want
Well, i have them all leveled to 120 and i don't mind going those 3 setups 50 times each against maxed namayuu
That's like musthave if ever gonna use her 
I mean, Namayuu is so rng you need 1k tries for any decent testing 
Unless comps outright not close in power
i'd say 100 tries is more than enough
5 buggers in avrora yikes
i'm pretty sure qe hood mon will have the least wr while kgv on top
just copy others and wait for 2nd reset i guess
I hope we are not getting any dorm sets soon
not an option for me cos thats 3am 
Well, i have reset 10 pm, 4 am, 10 am. So it is very shit on work days, when you need to actually sleep before work during second reset and actually wake up and travel for work during 3rd 
thats worse than me 
yeah no way i can compete EoS with that timezone
Anyone here from Sandy?
Me
2 resets missed always kek

ah those
pretty much
syanda already reported to devs
even avrora and wash have em
after reset
ah, ok
It's like since the times of that maint, that went into reset 
One time there they reset seasonal scores
too
That daylight saving was a mistake, honestly D
We still had time bugs after new UI for some time
Like Lecture hall wouldn't allow you set up anything 1 hr before reset, cause it already was into next day ships and you couldn't select them 
etc
Most of em are fixed now tho
Oh, so JP having maint on Wednesday evening, guess we too
Wonder how many newbs my lusty/Eldie comp gonna wall 
they will just reset 
Guess we are actually getting USS event


dont expect too much
unless they finally give us us-bias
because we now have us server
lead ship heavy cruiser
Uhh
My cubes are so not ready, and still no i-25 

I mean, Iowa probably belongs to something like anniv extra, cause, like, she cannot really be a part of some dedicated event, cause she only did carrier escorts and land bombardments, barely any surface battle 1st hand, lol
CA AA meme would be fun
Well, CLs main purpose is AA
London retro, PortlandKai and other HMS retro CAs have very decent AA, i have to give them that so

speaking of which does any one in all of AL server even got a 120 lusty anyway?
Surely

My was 110 long ago, i'm just to lazy to 120 anything outside pvp comp
and no coins to awaken much atm
more like never enough chips 
Savage Lusty 
When i get bunny sub, i might spare coins
after i finish ayaya and z46 might get to lusty
I'm 120ing wasd now
already got bunnies and foxes for AA tho
Pretty sure just running 1 Reppu is better
Have it run ahead and bait by itself
Other slot should be better with Pirate
running lusty 







helena is not ready yet so



