pvp

[ionic magnet]

[finite valve]

wonder if the sub is really that hard

[shy hazel]

anything with sara

is secretly kiro

remember

[ionic magnet]

lol

oh wait theyre forcing ppl to level their subs now

daxam must be smiling somewhere

[vague token]

please, like i would use torp memes

im a gunner

dont insult me like that ;)

[coral wren]

daxxam would be smiling only if they let subs in pvp

in that case he is prepared

[shy hazel]

theres no hms subs

daxam isnt happy

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

or was there any

[vague token]

do nation buffs even work on subs

[shy hazel]

kms ye

[coral wren]

yeah, historically hms had subs

[finite valve]

wonder how many ppl going to complain in #game-feedback or #gameplay-help about siren sub being too hard

[ionic magnet]

1 DD + blue sub gears can do it anyway most likely

[coral wren]

would be amusing if noone complains because nobody gives a shit about subs event

[finite valve]

could be just normal event with sub boss at the end

[shy hazel]

belbot still broken

[midnight heron]

and chaser laughs in its face

[vague token]

chaser laughs in all sub boss faces

[midnight heron]

enemy chaser

[ionic magnet]

i need to get my anti sub plane

[coral wren]

koln?

[ionic magnet]

still no luck from green boxes

[vague token]

are there only blue ASW planes?

[shy hazel]

remember asw tierlist

[midnight heron]

they shud put asw planes in core already

[shy hazel]

chaser is infinite tier

[trim horizon]

I member when I deleted chaser

[shy hazel]

beyond t0

[coral wren]

should have told to daxxam when he demanded a good hms cv

here ya go, bud

chaser is what you need

[vague token]

[finite valve]

where those asw planes when you need them

zzz

[ionic magnet]

theres a purple asw plane but its still not in our core shop

[vague token]

oh =/

[finite valve]

so at least we now know we going to have a new US event on all server

any idea who tho?

not really a historian nerd

[vague token]

alaskaaaaa

plzzzz

we all want biiiiig cruiser

;)

[finite valve]

[vague token]

[ionic magnet]

should be next week right? cos its not july anymore the week after next

[vague token]

[vague token]

[coral wren]

Solomon Islands campaign perhaps

[ionic magnet]

i see a new loli

[coral wren]

inb4 uss gets shitty ships compared to ijn

[vague token]

i mean

[trim horizon]

Imagine that

[vague token]

would we reaaally be surprised

/cleveland retro

jk

[trim horizon]

Seems another sis for Cleve

[vague token]

the girl in the back has large rigging

bb?

[shy hazel]

do you know the best thing they could do

[finite valve]

http://is2.4chan.org/vg/1563422243976.png

[shy hazel]

release mass refits

[vague token]

moonrunes help

[shy hazel]

chinese so,cant read

[finite valve]

seem like london get -1 pre load torp to be able to use DD or torp

[shy hazel]

if its jap maybe

[vague token]

oh yeah vysaga brought that up

[lament lichen]

W/e is in her secondary is a -1

Its like mogami

[vague token]

that's probably her torp boat aux gun?

[shy hazel]

"When the main gun shoots, it has a 15% chance of causing 2 times damage, when it breaks the enemy ship in combat, its own hit attribute is increased by 0.5% stacks up to 8 layers"

from whomever in general

[lament lichen]

Wat

Break

[vague token]

BREAK

[lament lichen]

Dafuq googlw translate

[shy hazel]

just means killed probably

[lament lichen]

Destoryed is the correct term lol

[trim horizon]

[finite valve]

so focus assault + minne style of buff for acc?

[vague token]

people break when they are killed

[finite valve]

kindda OP

[vague token]

except

that it doesnt work on the DD gun slot

REEEEE

main gun only

_>

[finite valve]

[lament lichen]

Also the lowest hp for a ca retro

[vague token]

i mean

she's still 2x hp of z23

the only ship with 175 dd gun eff

with no MGM

so closest analogue

[lean phoenix]

Still light armor on CA eva

[vague token]

i mean slap on rudder it's fine

[lament lichen]

She has 82 eva

[ionic magnet]

8 stacks of 0.5% aka nothing

[lament lichen]

So shes decent

[vague token]

that's level 1 though

[finite valve]

i think that's lvl 1 not max

[lament lichen]

1.5 at max

[vague token]

obviously 12% is still trash

[finite valve]

since i doubt max focus assault is at 15

[ionic magnet]

hmm so 12% at max

[vague token]

like

[ionic magnet]

its something but meh

[vague token]

what does that even do

12% hit in pve?

[finite valve]

dk lel

but yeh sound like acc

[ionic magnet]

and 15% chance to proc 2x dmg is a bit low dont you think

[finite valve]

is lvl 1

[lament lichen]

30

[vague token]

well that one probably goes to 30%

like the other focused assaults

[ionic magnet]

ah makes sense

[vague token]

if it worked on the dd gun she'd be reaaaaally good

_>

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

but sadly we dont get fun stuff for anything besides ijn now ;)

[finite valve]

http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1563422514125.png

[vague token]

no black hole on biscuit

never forget

[finite valve]

160% DD gun

lel

[ionic magnet]

but obv devs dont want us to have fun

[vague token]

but yeah, basically

if you ever thought you'd want to use z23

you'd use london instead

single fire dd gun with high efficiency and FP

but you get bigger hp

slap mle on there

big deeps

xD

[finite valve]

15%(30%) chance for double main gun damage, +0.5%(+1.5%) accuracy per kill stacking up to 8 times(12%)

how much is 12% acc in combat anyway?

[lean phoenix]

Uhh

Not much

[vague token]

uh

she has 116 base hit

[ionic magnet]

its not even hit rate so

[vague token]

so like 130

[finite valve]

[vague token]

aka does that even do anything?

[finite valve]

[vague token]

sanrui has 137 base hit

lel

[lament lichen]

She gets more acc than wskai

[vague token]

everything has more base acc than bbs xD

[ionic magnet]

116 hit is with her retro?

[vague token]

not a high bar

oh, does her retro add hit?

do ca retros add hit?

[ionic magnet]

idk kek

[lament lichen]

Probably

[vague token]

exeter probably does?

[lament lichen]

She has 82 eva

With retro

[shy hazel]

fitting stats for an ugly ship

[vague token]

exeter adds 15 hit from retro

wait

30

[ionic magnet]

how about her armor does it stay as light

[vague token]

wow

[ionic magnet]

ugly who

[lament lichen]

Uh lemme check

[vague token]

mogami does not add hit

to her retro

york also does not add hit

i would say unlikely

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

portland obviously doesnt add hit

xD

[finite valve]

another trophy ship

[vague token]

suffolk and the furutako series also dont add hit

yeah literally just exeter

adds hit

low odds of her retro line adding hit

or did the hms london do some crazy sniping irl

[ionic magnet]

ok so from 116 to 130 hit is a whopping 3% hit rate bonus vs a 80 eva enemy ship

[vague token]

amaaaaazing

xD

[finite valve]

not to mention she needs to deal the killing blow

lel

[vague token]

yeah so she starts at 116

xD

oh

york even starts with 130 hit

lol

[finite valve]

well at least she is cute

not much else to work with zzz

[lean phoenix]

Im only retroing her for waifu sakes

[vague token]

there's actually a lot of CAs that start with 130 hit or more

or are close enough

minne has 128

i suppose london does buff cruiser fp

[lean phoenix]

Perhaps she wants an SG then

[finite valve]

london buff all of VG fp

[vague token]

just slap leipzig, london, and uh

oh

ok even better

just slap in more gun

xD

[lament lichen]

Didnt see any change to armor type

Also london kai has 136 acc

[ionic magnet]

well 116 hit is already 58% hit rate vs 80 eva ships so its decent enough i guess

[lament lichen]

From 116

[ionic magnet]

oh

base hit is 136?

[vague token]

oh so she gets +20

[lean phoenix]

I dont think cruiser command and vg command stack

[finite valve]

but realistically does acc buff even matter anyway?

i rather have reload or fp buff tbh

[ionic magnet]

not much

well reload is worse imo

[lament lichen]

Yeah base hit is 136 at 120

[finite valve]

just buff them both like minne and call it a day

[shy hazel]

hit only mattera in pvp

[lament lichen]

She only gets 10 more fp lol

[shy hazel]

and its still crap for pvp

so wtv

[vague token]

with max stacks she gets 2 hit more than exeter

xD

[lean phoenix]

She will still explode like usual anyway

[finite valve]

not like you going to sub out any of your core for pvp anyway lel

she is still too paper to be of use in pvp

[shy hazel]

ppl should just accept

tht it is nothing

[lament lichen]

3.8k hp too

[shy hazel]

but a generic refit

[finite valve]

never said it ain't

[shy hazel]

meant to eat your gold

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

actually she might be fun with leipzig retro

[finite valve]

just that ppl like her as a character

[vague token]

lots of stat buff with qe

pew pew dd gun

[shy hazel]

kiro thinking of even more

useless memes

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

be satisfied with your sara meme

dont go further

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

ill go... even further beyond!

[shy hazel]

now there are kiro clones coming out

namgi with sara

at least

theyre free kills like the original

[ionic magnet]

kiro upgraded his team now yea? sara with bisko

[vague token]

ive been running it for a while

just havent changed my defense

until like last night

[ionic magnet]

can bisko shoot enemy vgs on def btw

[vague token]

i dunno

xD

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

i guess like

london/leipzig/montpelier

big cruiser boosto

[stark raft]

Something feels wrong there

[trim horizon]

Nice troll you can do the opposite of what's written in the skills

[finite valve]

i rather use US instead of china tho

[vague token]

i forgot that 8-5 preserves the lower kill before boss count, how nice

best sub stage

[elder crane]

Can confirm that Bisko nearly/actually constantly shoots at VG as defense
Although hitrate, is a different matter

In fact PR152 shoots at VG as def almost as much as an offense DD gun or so

[coral wren]

Sg+sg on her is a mandatory thing then I suppose?

[elder crane]

Oh I mean hard hitrate

Dispersion and shell travel time means her shots don't even trigger eva checks most of the time, even more so than usual secondaries

Basically just like WoWS Bismarck

[coral wren]

Is her dmg good at least?

[elder crane]

Well it's -30% dmg relative to normal BB secs, which still hurts
I'd say I'd almost rather not have her sec skill as offense, since PR 152 has almost enough range anyways (still should be better with the skill)
For defense it's the only way you're even shooting secs during VG fight so that's that

For overall damage output of Bis, at least facing Kiro it's.... disappointing

[trim horizon]

Haloist and Phoenix in list

[vague token]

it isnt just -30%

you forget she only gets aux +1

if she had aux +2 -30% would be fine

[elder crane]

Oh right that too

But on def she makes some pretty fireworks with her secs, mainly

I suppose chip damage better than no damage

[midnight heron]

cant rush until after reset

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

im getting the urge to bully sara,lovers rn

dunno why

[coral wren]

Rip

4 hours pause i can finally do my fucking job

2 more lvls for aur and i can start testing hms setups. There can be only 1

[sharp wing]

Ohboi, I slept into reset. Forgot it's Thursday

[vague token]

it's so difficult to get bonus points for me right now so i usually go down to 5 after i get just 1 xD

[sharp wing]

Just skip 1 reset and it will be all bonus and rainbows

[stark raft]

Yep she was my secretary for months

[steep fog]

pvp?

nah

[stark raft]

too bad acc buff only counted ships

if it also counted planes

4 eyed spy so good

[steep fog]

pve she should be rly good

cos DD gun just means smoother dmg curve

which CA lacks

[vague token]

just run a gunboat and her for dat firepower

xD

double the fun

[steep fog]

her DD gun is close to a main gun dps

with way better accuracy

[sharp wing]

If only she had mg+1 to that

[vague token]

if she had mgm+1 she'd be busted

[stark raft]

mg+1 would turn her god tier

[sharp wing]

And i'm fine with that

[steep fog]

if she has mgm +1

chicago would be trash

[vague token]

well

[steep fog]

and wichita too

[vague token]

she'd be better than basically everything

that's a gunboat

[sharp wing]

She has proper eva at least w/ her light armor

[steep fog]

she gonna be t OP

not even t0

[sharp wing]

She can relate to belfast in def stats

[vague token]

like, if z23 had 4k hp

she'd be pretty good

xD

[sharp wing]

She is basically just slower CL at this point after retro

not some shitty low eva light armor CA

[vague token]

the only bad part is focused assault only works on main gun

xD

[sharp wing]

same as BBs

Sad

[steep fog]

just think about it this way

her mg is 150%

aux gun is close to mg dps

basically better than 90% other CAs

[sharp wing]

she is like double gun boat

can relate to yatsen/ curacoa-cerlew

[steep fog]

also she doesnt have the usual CA weakness

[vague token]

seattle ;)

[steep fog]

of being unable to deal with production boat in side lane

[sharp wing]

seattle has mg+

[stark raft]

Yeah the other CA gunboats

cant shoot their sides good enough

[steep fog]

I might just ditch wichita for her

[sharp wing]

Wichita too frail

[steep fog]

cos chain cannon is worse than focused strike

[vague token]

seattle has MGM+1?

i thought she had double cl gun slots

[sharp wing]

she has 2 AA slots, but 1 is AA/Cl gun

and MG+1

So she has 3 CL guns

or 2 cl guns + 2 aa guns

[vague token]

oh god

that is a lot of guns

[sharp wing]

well she is like a baby of yat sen and curacoa/curlew

[steep fog]

being able to eq 2 main gun gives alot of fp buff

[sharp wing]

+90 fp w/ 2 gold guns

I ran yat w/ tbsk in main slot and belgun in aux for +70 fp

[steep fog]

I run 2belgun

[sharp wing]

Imagine double gun boat w/ 2 152 PR

well, need 1 Tbsk for actual DPS

Before PR that is

[steep fog]

just run belgun for burn refresh

[vague token]

imagine getting the 5 152 prs like in that HMS comp

on that tier list

xD

that is a lot of guns

[sharp wing]

fck that HMS

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

and fck QE

[coral wren]

indeed, qe and seattle

[sharp wing]

Seattle is uss tho

[coral wren]

That's why that tier list is a meme

[sharp wing]

mmm

I haven't even looked

[stark raft]

hey what the fuck who is shit talking QE here?

[coral wren]

at the very least ragarding that hms setup

[stark raft]

jk

[coral wren]

it was ws kai qe monarch with jun seattle and yuki

[steep fog]

why not nep

[coral wren]

if i knew chinese i'd ask him the same question

qe is also debatable

[steep fog]

whats EN next event

is it the new sub event

[sharp wing]

We are supposed to get that USS event

So not sure of it's just Sandy

or maybe that USS event will be this sub event

[steep fog]

huh

[sharp wing]

But we were told to have EN only event

[steep fog]

though that USS event gonna be EN exclusive

[sharp wing]

yeah

it's a lot of confusion

[vague token]

i thought the eagle event was global

[steep fog]

in b4 7/11 collab

[sharp wing]

Sub event might be new Global event and we get USS minievent, like Snady

[vague token]

oh

[steep fog]

maybe sandy EN exclusive skin

[sharp wing]

I wouldn't call that event even

Her retro minievent is already a joke

[steep fog]

the event is getting 60k gold

[coral wren]

is it worth it

first ur boat, but like, wasd is ded so there is no point in her besides w12 and even then i suppose you can just use cleve columbia just allright

[steep fog]

my london only lvl 60

cant even kai

[sharp wing]

My is 80

wonder if it's enough for modernization

or 85?

[stark raft]

My london 95

[steep fog]

nope

[stark raft]

0 gold though

[steep fog]

85 iirc

should have dormed her b4 maint

[sharp wing]

Might throw her into 1200 comm... WAit maint...

[steep fog]

[stark raft]

large nep research just before maint

[vague token]

[steep fog]

but I have more CAs than I ever used

[sharp wing]

I don't use CAs last few weeks

Nep farm is akll CLs

[steep fog]

finished nep grind with bel shef leander

[sharp wing]

french farm all CLs

[steep fog]

bel close to 120 now

[sharp wing]

Bel was 120 200 aff before i started Nep

[steep fog]

now grind ibuki with mog jin sendai

[sharp wing]

I now run bel-chan, aurora, fiji, shef+Jamaica in 2 fleets

[steep fog]

I run 12-4

only 1 fleet

[sharp wing]

My Ibuki grind will be all with Furytako and Kako retroes

[steep fog]

do mob then retreat

[sharp wing]

meh

[steep fog]

6 mob kill in 12-4 = 30k exp

[sharp wing]

i get 1% exp per 6-4 clear

while farming Poi

pretty ez

[steep fog]

I got a ton of poi from sos

[sharp wing]

SOS gave me only Maya once

tho i spam all boss dro[p SOS

[steep fog]

also got my 1st maya from sos too

and niizuki

only isuzu missing now

[sharp wing]

I spammed SOS boss maps since released and only got Maya few days ago

[steep fog]

should have ditched sendai

and run isuzu

but I was too lazy to farm her

[sharp wing]

I have her long ago

i miss boss 8 map dds

I miss every boss drop aside 3-4 and maya

I have just shitiest luck w/ map drops, lol

[steep fog]

just luccsacc

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

columbia took me less than 30 runs

same with choukai

[sharp wing]

At least i get event drop ships, like Desuland from 1st clears

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

They should just make exchange actually have some ships, not only vanilla ships

It's basically useless to anyone, who played game 2 months

[steep fog]

just add pow and atago to exchange

[sharp wing]

same as exam final Sr tickets. By the time newbs get to finishing exam, they have MLB of those ships

PoW and Atago will be on Anniv SR ticket anyway

It is that ex-event perma pool ships never made it into event limited base pool...

So you gotta actually roll outside event in

heavy/special

which is kinda dumb too

event build basically never ends for ppl who didn't have those ex-event ships

Oh wait, elite modernization req should be not even 85, but 90...

85 is for Rs

[steep fog]

rolling special aint too bad

rolling heavy is ???

[sharp wing]

Is Aber trap w/ Sussex wanting you bad

Now that i look at it, other 2 London class ships have chain cannons

shropshire and sussex

Full london class VG

well, no

Dorsetshire can be not half bad w/ torp buffer

[vague token]

id rather run like london/leip/x

[sharp wing]

mini Ibuki

well, ofc

But that mem comp can work

[vague token]

i dunno who the last would be

[sharp wing]

warsheep

[vague token]

montpelier has nice cruiser buffs

[sharp wing]

something with reload command maybe for full buff, lol

Oh, that's only Konig

lol

reload commands are really rare, lol

[vague token]

just use uni

or akashi

w/e

[sharp wing]

using Akashi

[vague token]

i mean they have reload command xD

[sharp wing]

yeah, but for VG to buff cruisers there only Konig

and foxhound for DDs

Not like Reload buffs are relevant

But just the thing

Avrora best buffer anyway

Soon

Wonder if devs just wanted to troll

Or it was some early game balance ideas

[vague token]

guess in the end we just go back to montpelier's fp/accuracy buff

xD

[sharp wing]

I dun like that weird wannabe neko

When we get her skin i wonder

It's like: "What are you looking at, dege"

[sharp wing]

They gonna deprive Sandy of her crown?

[midnight heron]

do u like wat u C

[sharp wing]

looks like London has both skill and modern at 85, unlike skill at 90 for other elite retroes?

[lean phoenix]

Ye

[sharp wing]

Wonder if devs just fcked up

[safe meteor]

London still bad right?

[sharp wing]

No

After retro she basically get's second proper gun

And CL tier eva

at 120 that is, cause CA eva growth comes late lvls

at around 100 she will be regular frail light armor CA

Also she get's really high acc for CA

[midnight heron]

still waiting for london dupe to drop so i dont hav to use bulin kek

[sharp wing]

I dun have gold atm anyway for her

[midnight heron]

no rush(ian)

[sharp wing]

bulins not a problem

You can also always buy from merit shop

what to do with merits anyway

[midnight heron]

i use for purin tho

[sharp wing]

I stoped doing that like 2-3 months now cause

more than 3 rows of purins in dock...

[midnight heron]

i hav to save merit for those cuz no space to keep so many lul

i pretty much hav to use those bulins on arrival

[sharp wing]

That's from weeklies and medal shop tho

[midnight heron]

if i wanna save my sanity from doing quest

"your dock is full" nooo

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

merit shop still has higher frequencies of purins so

[sharp wing]

I even retired all SR dupes i kept for retro

[midnight heron]

i only kept sandy

[sharp wing]

i retired her

[midnight heron]

cuz supposedly her retro shud come soon

[sharp wing]

too many purins

over 21, lol

[midnight heron]

lul

[sharp wing]

I potentially could use em all, if i lvl all my lb2/lb1 SRs, but that also requires tremendous

cause i have dozen lb2 srs, like Neps

i never come around to lvling

[midnight heron]

yea man fk coin cost

as if mindbreaking doesnt cost enuf already

[sharp wing]

yeah, i got few unbroken

hanged

[shy hazel]

what

u want me to hang u?

[midnight heron]

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

U will hang yrself faster

Trying

[lean phoenix]

Whats the next rank after “5 star Admiral”?

[sharp wing]

Admiral of The Navy

AoTN

[shy hazel]

the title for semi winners

real winner top 10 eos

real god winner is top 1

[sharp wing]

Real tryhard

Sleep deprived neet

Those 2 bunny subs refuse to come home still, damn

I just noticed we are getting Z boat as monthly, no some HMS boat

or ijn dd

Nice change

Those AP skill subs are most useless shit in existence anyway

[elder crane]

AP skill DDs you mean?

[sharp wing]

yeah DDs

aside from z46 barrageboat

with her ap fan barrage

[burnt ice]

whats sandbagging

[sharp wing]

Well, it's process of earning bonus points

[shell heron]

purposely holding 5/10 matches to stay a lower rank.

[sharp wing]

You get 1 bonus point for each 35 Score difference (not Rank)

The point of Sandbag is to wait till ppl on your list push ahead and you fight them, when you assume Score difference is high enough

It used to be around 200 Ranks difference for 35 Score difference, But lately pvp is so dead, sometimes even 800-1k ranks diff not enough

So unless you have some1 on yr list from top 100 to check their Score, it's all RNG

[shell heron]

there's also a reason why we hold 5 matches. it's easier to get matches that offer bonus points later because you'll be 50 points lower than you should be.

[sharp wing]

Well, obviously

So you get a risk of sleeping through reset and losing yr tickets or just get distracted during reset time and lose 5 tickets outright that way

[shell heron]

if you want to properly sandbag, you need to take that risk

[sharp wing]

So if you gonna commit to sandbag, you gonna commit to schedule

[shell heron]

checking for movement every once in a while becomes a job

[burnt ice]

so the higher the difference the more points u earn

[sharp wing]

well, yes

each 35 score diff

[burnt ice]

is there a "cap" for that or anything

[sharp wing]

yeah

But it's pretty unreachable on regular basis

1k points iirc

usually you are unable to reach even +2 bonus

Unless 1st few days of season

[burnt ice]

1k points

[sharp wing]

Or if you missed some tickets

Mid-end season it's all +1s

[burnt ice]

is it better to hold tickets before reset

so tht u can spam aft reset

[sharp wing]

If you sandbag, you go up to 5/10 till reset

[shell heron]

you don't spam

[sharp wing]

So you keep score difference

[shell heron]

use tickets as your opponents move up in rank

[sharp wing]

You only use tickets when you see much higher rank person

You need 35 score difference

at least 200 ranks at good times, now much more

[burnt ice]

does the rank update thing ever makes left most enemy not the one with highest gain in points

[sharp wing]

to update rank you relog

[burnt ice]

yea

but is it possible

[sharp wing]

yeah, ppl from end of list can go leftmost

Position changes based on rank

[burnt ice]

oh so it shuffles itself if someone else became left most

[sharp wing]

yes

[burnt ice]

and not like original leftmost guy sticks leftmost

aight

ty

[sharp wing]

It's organized based on score/rank

after each update

But ppl on list rename same, unless you press update list button

[burnt ice]

[shy hazel]

just be active here

[sharp wing]

just don't forget to use all tickets over 5/10 before each reset

[shy hazel]

watch people step on each other

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

and thou shall learn

[sharp wing]

Can i step on you

[shy hazel]

no u

[sharp wing]

no ux2

[shell heron]

we're at the point where sandbaggers have showdowns with each other

[sharp wing]

\

[shy hazel]

u mean

battle of attrition

and patience

[sharp wing]

[burnt ice]

my atk fleet is okay riht

[sharp wing]

yeah

[shy hazel]

no

[burnt ice]

also if im gonna have saint louis in later on, who shld I replace

[shy hazel]

your fleet is okay

but ur gear isnt

[sharp wing]

But there better option than Bel for Nakaga

[burnt ice]

wym gear

[shy hazel]

the numbers looks subpar

[burnt ice]

oh the numbers huh

[sharp wing]

Well, judging by yr fleet power

[burnt ice]

thts cuz im too stingy to +10

[sharp wing]

you have not BiS gear

[burnt ice]

i dont mind resets so I keep them +6 +8

only a few r 10

[sharp wing]

You should be 13k+ on both

[shy hazel]

my beljunnanoda

is 13k

[sharp wing]

+6

[shy hazel]

score

[sharp wing]

I dun even use +6 for pve

[shy hazel]

i forgot foxes alrdy but it should be 13k ish

[sharp wing]

Never used foxes so idk

[shell heron]

my foxes are still 110, but I get 13.5k

[sharp wing]

assume 14k is fine

yeah 120 foxes should be 14k somewhere

[burnt ice]

oh yeah one of the fox was empty gear

[sharp wing]

[burnt ice]

had them on som1 else

[sharp wing]

Gotta make dupes for PVp fleet

s

[shy hazel]

its 2019 tho who still use foxes

[sharp wing]

[burnt ice]

i use foxes cuz no amagi

[shell heron]

[sharp wing]

Let's shit on foxes

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

QE is old

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

Was not me

[shy hazel]

unlike qe

foxes has cult

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

be wary of them

[sharp wing]

Sandy cult > all

But Floof is da best

[shy hazel]

anyways

i did my rounds alrdy

feeling bad due to kyoani news

so i go cry to sleep

[sharp wing]

what

[shy hazel]

ciao

[finite valve]

some psychopath set fire to kyoani studio killing 35 ppl and injured many more

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[finite valve]

9/11 of anime

wonder if the studio going to disband or move to other studio or not

[sharp wing]

That is godawful

[coral wren]

They won't disband, from what i heard it was hq that was set on fire, where they train new stuff mostly and fucking around with new merch. Artists and assets are untouched.

[coral wren]

hm

so who's right

[light kestrel]

Nobody has any actual idea

Because they have yet to make a statement

[charred sable]

TFW 34 point diff

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i mean

you can still save that for later

they'll probably push later right ;)

[vale juniper]

https://youtu.be/cG_f5-mks7o

[dusk stirrup]

[shy hazel]

🚮

[ionic magnet]

[trim horizon]

Sandy

[lament lichen]

Too meme

[grim ember]

Been usin this setup for a while now. Should i replace Sheff with Jintsuu (when she decides to drop) ?

[lime rivet]

yeah

[shy hazel]

jintsu without aurora

is bad

foxes too

[finite valve]

unless its on def

who care

been using foxes forever

works fine

[ionic magnet]

i found jintsuu aurora juneau the most optimal VG for foxes when i was still using them

aurora helps a lot against yukikaze too

[finite valve]

jintsuu is just for torp meme

if you want full on retard go sirius aurora jesus

or YKK whichever you want

i run sirius jesus ykk tho

[ionic magnet]

yea jintsuu is just for softening enemy VGs cos foxes cant wipe them in 1 airstrike most of the time (especially the stall VGs)

but torp meme is torp meme

sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't

[shy hazel]

derptwig

34 points difference

guess i get no +1 this time

[real notch]

Alright who's dev 30

[steep fog]

my sanrui only dev 28

and im doing freebie nowadays

[vague token]

i got fate sim 1, but that's only 5 bps

[midnight heron]

when u got too much dock space

[vague token]

[midnight heron]

and then now im facing some hax opponent again as usual

yuki dat takes no dmg for some reason

[finite valve]

unless their whole team take no dmg

don't sound like hax to me

[midnight heron]

idc as long as its bs rng i call hax

[finite valve]

[coral wren]

monarch fate sim 2

[cosmic iron]

is there any point in leveling sendai’s flare skill?

[real notch]

yea

so that by 20 seconds you might be able to flare again

but otherwise not much point

[cosmic iron]

k

[burnt ice]

is it just me or is the enemy torps much easier to hit my backline

[lament lichen]

They are closer to your side

[vague token]

your vg and main are close together

so all of them are potential targets for torpedos

if the EHP on the vanguard wasnt so important, torps would be the best tool there is

[burnt ice]

but my torp seems 100% unable to hit enemy

[vague token]

yeah because the enemy main

is always farther away

defense fleet main is like 50% farther away

or w/e

[burnt ice]

why they made it like this

is thr any reason

[vague token]

dunno

back during wasd torps were meta for this reason

defense lets you pressure backline

and then they die really fast

so your gunners dont waste shots on them

if the defense fleet was moved foward i think offense torps would be meta again

just because of the pressure you could put out with jintsuu and ykk is crazy

and then once you die, you got hiryuu

and because of attacker taking less damage

you win

alternatively they could move attacker fleet farther back

which would basically delete torpedos as anything besides rng memes

unless they added an Aimed Torpedo like the Sub Torpedos

which would only shoot a few but would let vgs have a 50/50 chance of targeting main fleet

[real notch]

no particular reason

yea

lol

[burnt ice]

lel

[vague token]

there are 0 sane reasons for pvp rules being the way they are

[burnt ice]

is tbtsk or 155 btr in pvp

[vague token]

they are magical and mysterious

[burnt ice]

on aux

bb

[vague token]

we accept them for what they are and move on

for low AA bbs usually i use 127

my biscuit is using belgun though

xD

i should try nepgun

for fun

[burnt ice]

also is it just me or is amagi barrage random sometimes

on enemy

[vague token]

amagi has the largest damaging component of her barrage as an aimed one

2x2 shots

this means she can target something bad

like heavy armor

(large penalty)

or the vanguard

and miss

so yeah it's rng for both

[burnt ice]

is thr a alternative for amagi in pvp

if im using nagato and hiryuu

[vague token]

no

amagi has the strongest toolkit in the game

[burnt ice]

i missed amagi cuz i started at crimsone echoes

[vague token]

ah

[ionic magnet]

there's always nakaga if you dont have amagi

[vague token]

i think nagato dual bunnies or dual cranes is ok?

just ok

[burnt ice]

dont dual cranes just get destroyed

[ionic magnet]

not sure abt bunnies with no retro

[burnt ice]

since pvp allows 2 aistrike at most

[shy hazel]

double bunny in en?

is bad what

[vague token]

i mean

if you dont have amagi

[shy hazel]

soryu is worthless

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

cranes are ok-ish

[vague token]

just pray double boosted final counter wipes

[ionic magnet]

theyre just slow

[shy hazel]

only hiryu has fc

what double boosted

[vague token]

boosted by nagato and paired avi bonus?

that's 2 boosts

xD

[shy hazel]

still trash

[vague token]

just go hms

i dunno

[shy hazel]

their trash stats dont help

kai fixes that

[burnt ice]

my enemy nagato has like 80% proc rate

its already 20 mins

[vague token]

bluerendar and his 100% big seven rate

[ionic magnet]

well he already has nagato
kinda a waste if he'll just go hms

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

no choice but to foxes nagato

it works

its not the v best but it still works

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

AT LEAST

Its better than using

Sara

[ionic magnet]

here we go again

[shy hazel]

[burnt ice]

does relogin the game fixes enemy broken proc rate

[shy hazel]

no

[vague token]

im kinda surprised i dont get memed on for biscuit

just sara

xD

[burnt ice]

mine procs like 1 out of 5
enemy fucking 1 out of 2

[midnight heron]

u just gotta and complain here

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

[midnight heron]

like i do

[ionic magnet]

yea im trying to bait stella on bisko but

[shy hazel]

i havent seen new fleet yet

[vague token]

i really like biscuit's concepts

[shy hazel]

dont worry hooloo

[vague token]

but they're all just half

[shy hazel]

i beat your fleet with 4 ships intact

always

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

i mean my fleet is dependent on positioning lol

it should have low odds on defense

if only sara had cuda torps

to actually do big damage

on everything

hoping essex solves my problem

[shy hazel]

Canuck was using full kms

it was

[vague token]

biscuit's buffs are bad

so

i think if she had aux gun +2 she'd be much better

and instead of reload +12, hit +20

basically has 55% less aux damage than all other bbs

because of that SGM+1

instead of +2

=(

i dont know why they did that

[ionic magnet]

to keep ijn on the top ofc

[vague token]

i mean she isnt really competing with ijn for aux gun usage

xD

maybe with pr2 gun she might be able to do better damage

[shy hazel]

nothing will save bisko

or kms

[vague token]

well yeah

xD

[shy hazel]

fdg is a solo ship

[vague token]

it's kinda hilarious that she self buffs her crit so much

so it's like, dont even need biscuit

it would be neat if kms had higher innate crit damage

and biscuit could synergize with that by boosting hit and crit rate

xD

[coral wren]

is there a chance canuck and canacuck are the same person, just met this dude on wash

[shy hazel]

wash one is fake

canuck play this en since release

wash wasnt here at release

[cerulean estuary]

famine top 2 , super sandbag

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

guess fam be top 1 this season

next reset is rush season alrdy

[coral wren]

what a tragedy, kgv must be a flag in order to deal dmg, and qe is just standing there on side, doing nothing like a potato

[vague token]

🥔