pvp

[sharp wing]

each 35 score diff

[lean phoenix]

i c

[sharp wing]

that's the hard part, since it hard to determine score difference based on rank difference, especially at this dead time

unless person in top 100 and you can look score in rankings

[lean phoenix]

ye

[sharp wing]

Even 500 rank difference can not yield 35 score difference at times atm

so it's another rng, lol

Someone had 1k rank diff not giving bonus recently i think

there hundreads of ppl with around same scores

[midnight heron]

look wat i found in another universe

inb4 banned for non al content

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

twin 283 naval gun, that relic of ww1 times

[lean phoenix]

Nassau-class dreadnought gun

[sharp wing]

Oh, i jsut noticed, SOS missions actually end if the timer runs out, i thought they lasted for 12 hrs after you enter

never payed attention to map time

[midnight heron]

lmao i found out cuz i fell asleep doing 1 before

[sharp wing]

xD

I found out cause i started 1 10 minutes before expiration

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

@stark raft do you have some matches left?

[stark raft]

5/10

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

Fuck

[stark raft]

not enough for 35?

[coral wren]

Yeah

[stark raft]

I'll move if this rusher moves

[coral wren]

Im sitting at 1627

With 2 missed attempts the other 3 guys are prolly sleeping

[stark raft]

I've been on deadlist for 2-3 days lmao

ppl prolly tired from baguette farm

[coral wren]

It seems so, i was having quite a few +0 recently even when i was monitoring 24 hours

They just don’t give a fuck

[stark raft]

Yeah you gotta land on rushers each reset or you're fucked

silly washington

[sharp wing]

Oh, wow. We getting London retro same time

Oh, and i-56 skin gonna be minievent

[midnight heron]

list is so ded i can summon zombies

[vague token]

you know, i just realized leipzig retro adds 9 speed to the vanguard

i thought it was 3

but it's 3 PER ship

free boiler

[vague token]

boiler, plus 1 speed

xD

[vague token]

i moved my FCR to biscuit

i think it's doing better than on amagi

xD

[trim horizon]

+2

[coral wren]

is there any way to lose against an oathed bulin purin vestal fleet

i looked away from the screen thinking it was a safe win and i lost

[finite valve]

if your fleet are un-optimize then yes

[coral wren]

they were only level 70 and i was using 120s

meta fleet

fully geared

[finite valve]

i am going to LMFAO if your 120 lose to 70

[coral wren]

i dont even know how i looked away and just looked back and it was annhialated

i thought bulins and purins didnt do damage

[finite valve]

either they have a 120 somewhere in the fleet that you miss

since there is 0 way for 120 to lose to 70

[coral wren]

im just thinking there was some glitch

[finite valve]

unless i see the comp itself

speculation ain't going anywhere

[coral wren]

it must have been the secret hidden bulin purin skill

did u see the beginning of the fight?

my guess is that purin/vestal was the initial team

then they swapped the team to a stronger one

and you didnt see the change/ game didnt update visually

yeah maybe something like that

[finite valve]

dime in a dozen tbh since i never experience that problem

[shy hazel]

the only time u can lose,vs bulins

is the clock running out

do u have ss

[finite valve]

he said he was afk when that happen

so ofc no SS

[shy hazel]

he can still glimpse on the enemy fleet at losing screen

personally speaking i think he may just be mismembering something

maybe u fought a diff fleet

it shouldnt be possible to even lose to purins

nor have i heard a case like it for months

[finite valve]

might be akagi chan bug

but i doubt he afk for a full 5 min

[shy hazel]

akagi chan bug is supposed to freeze the timer too

iirc

[finite valve]

[ionic magnet]

what comp is he even using

are you perhaps using 120 bulins/vestal?

[vale juniper]

https://youtu.be/pOiDw4fHmks

[shy hazel]

i dont click links

maybe jebait

[stark raft]

just amakaga pvp vid

[shy hazel]

nothing interesting then

[lament lichen]

just amakage vs teams that are either low lvled or meme

[midnight heron]

just did a match that made me question game rng as usual

had bad amagi procs for 2 runs and 1 ended with loss and another with a landslide victory

0 sense made

[lament lichen]

i mean getting procs doesnt always win the match

its just about how many times you miss

[midnight heron]

yea but more procs also means more chance to hit

enemy was spamming amagi barrage

[elder crane]

Main battery RNG, and enemy amagi rng, targeting probably

And ofc VG movement and evarate RNG

And ofc ykkz skill RNG

[midnight heron]

im a biased boi

[elder crane]

Well Louis really does sure no-sell Aurora
Killed all other VG and she was still standing with half health, and happened twice
Too bad the guy's main fleet was trash and I still won with 0/4 Nagato and 1/5 Amagi procs (2nd time, first was an EZ roll)

[vague token]

not for me

xD

my vg loses trades to your aurora vg

xD

[elder crane]

Even with Louis?

[vague token]

yeah

because what happens

is aurora forces the vg to take damage too evenly

instead of lead to mid to off

[elder crane]

Also I was facing you
And I mean rest of your VG was dead, not mine :P

[vague token]

so when it gets to hiryuu time i got no shield xD

while against standard stall

[elder crane]

Weird that your sara is like 1/2 s launch slower than Hiryuu

[vague token]

because she is?

2 btd

and vg

vf*

[elder crane]

Ah thought you were using comets, makes sense then

[vague token]

na comets arent worth it cause you miss

1.6k bombs are like

10% more hit rate

over the 100s

so

the main thing about sara is she needs a longest fight

aurora still compresses the fight too fast

since sanrui cant tank big seven

this means sara deals with belfast no problem

because you just wait em out with 2k more hp than hiryuu

she can just soak amagi barrages

all day

with rwg + beaver

[coral wren]

@stark raft if you see me let me know, i’ll rush for you

[elder crane]

Heh interesting
I suppose Sanrui is just the best option vs Aurora, not a complete shutdown

[vague token]

well

if i ran hiryuu

it wouldnt matter

i could just sacrifice vg

but im meming biscuit + sara

i cant afford to lose vanguard

[elder crane]

Yeah I noticed
Both those are better if VG fight drags on

[vague token]

and honestly im ok with that

i think that it performing even 50% against meta

[elder crane]

Also my Amagi won both duels suuuuper hard
I suppose it's mostly no Nagato buff

And the VG thing too I suppose

[stark raft]

Wash has been deadlist for 4 days

[coral wren]

Also, with aur kgv is always mvp

[stark raft]

only like 20-30 rushers

[vague token]

i swapped my fcr to nagato

[coral wren]

Eh, well, i overslept 6 in total now so i couldn't care less about top 3

So if you meet me let me know

[vague token]

err sorry

biscuit

[shy hazel]

ive won plenty of times with nagato not doing a,single proc

i dont rly know why u have so much problem with less procs

maybe your hit is low?

[vague token]

i mean, 20% hit from nagato buff

is a lot

[shy hazel]

i dunno whyhaloist always loses

is your team really fully geared 120

with non meme ships

or did u rename your saratoga too to Hiryuu

[vague token]

stella is bullying me again xD

[stark raft]

sara voice is annoying thats why

DOKU MITERU NOoo

[shy hazel]

no im complaining about haloist who is also always complaining

i regularly meet maxed fleets inn avrora

[vague token]

oh

[shy hazel]

i never meet his problems

he said he has mxed fleet

but im wondering why hr loses alot

[empty sinew]

wait, losing is possible?

[shy hazel]

thats the question

[vague token]

oh, i dont lose that much xD

[empty sinew]

im even leveling a 112 enty vs maxed namaryuus and haven't loss so far

[shy hazel]

i havent lost for 6~7 seasons

[empty sinew]

how does one even

[stark raft]

I can only lose to sleep

[empty sinew]

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

kinda want to try removing ykk and using aurora

[shy hazel]

its been 8 seasons since sleep smacked me

i lose rounds due to busyness

at work

amnesia kills me

[coral wren]

west coast timezone master race?

[shy hazel]

i work at jst

what

[coral wren]

Oh really? Hm, then you are kinda present during all resets?

[shy hazel]

ofc not

[coral wren]

10 am is 1 reset, then 16 pm second and the last one is at 2 am?

[shy hazel]

something like that

[coral wren]

well, that's way better than eu anyway

[shy hazel]

i dont rly think theres such a thing as superior timezone

ppl normally playing can catch 2 resets

true sandbaggers wake up on their 3rd reset

which i dont do

if u think abouf na timezone

their endseason reset

is approximately at

2~3am

[coral wren]

ouch

[shy hazel]

normal people isnt awake that time

so na timezone isnt superior

lol

[coral wren]

and it's sunday, lmao

[shell heron]

west coast is not too bad at midnight

[shy hazel]

got work or school the following day what

[shell heron]

but I don't live in west coast so 2am for me

[coral wren]

well, with eu you have to wake up right in the middle of the night, 4 am is third reset

[shy hazel]

but in,exchnge eu can online at the other two

if u ask me asians and sea ppl has adv

btw im on jst because of work not because of place

im on graveyard shift

lol

[coral wren]

they do. You can stay up to 2am, sleep for 6 hours, wake up go to work and you are still present during the rest two

Unless your slleeping schedule is more than 6 hours

[shy hazel]

i always sleep maximum 12 cos i need to go to work at 6

ppl sleeping only for 6 hrs isnt healthy

sleep must always be 8 hrs

[stark raft]

you're right

fuck my tickets

sleep is better

[shy hazel]

im always at top 10 even when only awake at two resets

it isnt that bad

top 1 is diff talk tho

[stark raft]

yeah next time ill just push dead list instead of using an alarm 20 mins before reset

[shy hazel]

thus

sleep is never a problem for me

unless i forget to do rounds

and i sleep

[stark raft]

yeah

waking up and saw daily quest

[coral wren]

waking up at 4am with an alarm clock was shit for me, disturbed my sleep so i couldn't go sleep again

[stark raft]

win 3 times on exercise at 1 win

means yu slept on 4

[shy hazel]

[stark raft]

bad part is i also woke up to deadlist

so these washington ppl are trippin on some shit

[lament lichen]

Finally made my second staag lul

[shy hazel]

[lean phoenix]

oops

took a 6th defeat

im totally off the hook now

[shy hazel]

why are u even posting your losses here

[lean phoenix]

venting

[shy hazel]

post your wins

and ask others how to win more

[lean phoenix]

its literally me just being too risky with not resetting

[shy hazel]

hiryuu has zero risks

[lean phoenix]

wins, eh, wins are the norm

[shy hazel]

pvp is a place for winners

[lean phoenix]

clearly

[coral wren]

if everyone wins then nobody wins

[shy hazel]

losers go to general or help

[stark raft]

post fleet and lets see how you lose

[lean phoenix]

[coral wren]

i hope it's hms

[lean phoenix]

gotta love one-ship-left-alive wins tho

[coral wren]

ok, i'm totally trying jb with aur once she is 120

crits are too juicy

[stark raft]

doing 1 dmg crits on nanoda might hurt your soul

[shy hazel]

real winners always win with 3~4 ships left

1~2 ships is for hms lovers

[coral wren]

25% for nanoda to happen

i just want to see if that one guy was right back in december

[stark raft]

winning in 1 min is for hms and nakagas only

mirrors gotta wait hiryuu out

[buoyant parrot]

[vague token]

[elder crane]

Well I mean you gotta wait enemy Hiryuu out anyways
And Namayuu vs non-Hiryuu is usually sub 1 min anyways

[shy hazel]

namaryuu vs non hiryuu is

alt tab time

[stark raft]

until you get stalled into next season

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

dont be like Cay

[vague token]

[lament lichen]

Stall to next season lul

[ionic magnet]

from rank 1 end of season to back-to-back out of top10

[hazy rain]

do refreshes totally reset per day?

this is me btw

[lament lichen]

Yes p

[hazy rain]

in case you want to know how washington is going

[lament lichen]

You get 5 refreshes a day

[hazy rain]

thanks

[coral wren]

So now there are 4 unfortunate souls on wash

[shy hazel]

[steep fog]

another loss this season

rip gensui

[vale juniper]

https://youtu.be/B8dvo2kGBwU

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

ok, at 1781?

xD

[shy hazel]

🚮

[coral wren]

Lmao

[buoyant parrot]

what's with the rank 1 thing not END season? this feels so sad.

[lament lichen]

First match full 120 no one oathed

[lime rivet]

it's sandy server

man, i think i got through this whole season without fighting a namaryuu comp once

lets see if i can sustain that and still hit aotn

[shy hazel]

normally ppl dont use namaryuu until last days

easy fleet to try make ppl score higher

pretry futile in avrora now

most of ny reset i get 0 alrdy

too many people have fallen alrdy

[steep fog]

wait

I use namaryuu from d1

too lazy to change

[buoyant parrot]

I get reports that their namaryuu gets killed by my barrage fleet

[lament lichen]

I already fought namaryuu from day 1

And its every reset

[buoyant parrot]

I run through them with my def fleet..

they seem to be not of any issue to me right after my Monarchs hit Dev 30

[lament lichen]

I mean i bring boats that i want to lvl to 70 so

[shy hazel]

i just fought BigLeg and Lea

last reset

both namaryuus

and i met them thrice alrdy

top rank world is small

[lean phoenix]

Ded hiryu best hiryu

Lmao aurora

[shy hazel]

its,too late to flex when youve alrdy lost

five times

[empty sinew]

5

[lean phoenix]

*6

[shy hazel]

my mistake

six*

i think ill be mistaken soon because it will be seven

[finite valve]

better speed up the PR farm if you guys want your PR 2

[elder crane]

It's the casuals that are limiting it, not us

[finite valve]

[elder crane]

Also PR2 early might ruin PvP meta for the forseeable future
will mean WSkai is DoA (RIP HMS)

[sharp wing]

I got a new personal record

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

Slept through 3 resets

this season

[empty sinew]

don't sandbag

ez

[sharp wing]

At least i can enjoy my +12

[empty sinew]

doing the battles > not doing them at all

[sharp wing]

Well, not like i can do them

at all

[empty sinew]

[sharp wing]

I do 5/10 1-2 hrs before reset then wake up after next reset after this one

[empty sinew]

i just do 10/10 during the weekends cuz i wanna sleep

[sharp wing]

gotta rush +9s

[empty sinew]

[sharp wing]

It's often even hard to 10/10>5/10 without +9s

mid reset

[empty sinew]

tru

[sharp wing]

Long live Sandy

[empty sinew]

that's very unfortunate bud

know what the devs should do with PR2?

level gate them

at least lvl 100s can grind for it

limit the casuals

[sharp wing]

Die.

Many ppl who played since servers opened are not 100

me included

[empty sinew]

[sharp wing]

I know ppl with 42k+ attaccs not lvl 100

cause of aff farm and other low lvl stuff

lvl doesn't mean anything

[empty sinew]

damn

[buoyant parrot]

Meh more content the better. AL is getting somewhat slow now when it comes to something we need to do. Exclude gacha

[sharp wing]

1 sub left

that shy I-25 avoids me

[empty sinew]

i have U-101 left

[buoyant parrot]

Honestly I'm getting bored the only challenging left to do in the game is pvp which supposedly not to be the entire case

[sharp wing]

i just built second i-168

that's why you play 2-3 gacha same time

1-2 usually just login and daileis outside events

[buoyant parrot]

I play money milking game aside AL

[sharp wing]

1 main time

lol

i mostly play pc games

[empty sinew]

honestly wanna stop pulling on this banner

i still don't see the point

of subs

[sharp wing]

well, i got my weekly setup

and gold subs for surface attacks

[buoyant parrot]

I had to pull for this banner despite having 1 cube left

I'm missing 2 subs

[sharp wing]

U boats too frail for summon or weekly, but good for surface

[empty sinew]

it's been a long while, feeling the pain of missing boats

i don't like it

[sharp wing]

Those I boats have good balance of HP/EVa and torp

[empty sinew]

[trim horizon]

new event with enemy subs in it

[empty sinew]

[sharp wing]

lmao

sub vs sub missions

underwater warfare

[trim horizon]

https://twitter.com/Ratto7R/status/1151451247913783297

らっと@アズレン (@Ratto7R)

海域イベントで潜水艦という事はこの潜水艦セイレーンが実装されるのでしょうか…(´ω｀)

#アズールレーン https://t.co/TORXr2UydY

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[finite valve]

everybody says that content is slow but realistically what PVE focus game not stop after you max out all the top unit + get all the top gear?

[empty sinew]

cursed

[sharp wing]

ded inside

[finite valve]

only in pvp focus game that i see there are other thing to do aside from pve like e7 or gbf

[sharp wing]

lol

e7 is like login few times a month for gw stuff for like 20 mins

then dailies and login other days till event

gbf is just korean grindfest mmo in browser

[finite valve]

well he complain about "lack of something to do"

so just give my 2 cent

[sharp wing]

well

as i said play second game

it helps

[finite valve]

waiting for AK and sinoalice as my 2 and 3 game

[sharp wing]

I play gacha only when i don't something on pc

sinoalice is not my thing

that combat is just turn off

[finite valve]

look and play the same as gbf

[sharp wing]

I don't play gbf for a long time

[finite valve]

even the system is almost the same minus for pet summon

same lel

just find other thing to play aside from al

[sharp wing]

weapon grid games are jsut too grindy at times

And i would only play something with good rates and f2p friendly aside cosmetics

[finite valve]

gl with the good rates part

[sharp wing]

well, at least perma pool if nt that good rates

[finite valve]

aside from al no other games got such high rate for pull

[sharp wing]

well, gfl is fine

[finite valve]

fineish at best

not really what i called good

[sharp wing]

At least you don't need to pull event units

[finite valve]

i remember the time when i spawn sniper pool for WA 2k

[sharp wing]

u can 100% collection as f2p

[finite valve]

around 100 ticket

got 0

[sharp wing]

Well, you see no cashgrab game

But there too few good waifu games

most non EN

[finite valve]

fgo gfl al kc off the top of my head

[sharp wing]

fgo

[finite valve]

fgo is debatable

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

but still a waifu game

[sharp wing]

🚮

i mean

[finite valve]

top 5 been just those 4

[sharp wing]

not male units

or they all garbo

[finite valve]

unless you consider idol game as a waifu collection

[sharp wing]

not fgo case

[finite valve]

never get why ppl like those zzz

well waifu / husbando

[sharp wing]

fgo simply can't be collector too

[finite valve]

not all weeb are male

[sharp wing]

due to rates

[finite valve]

well due to fuck up rate

0.75% for SR

[sharp wing]

it's fcking joke

[finite valve]

and you can't farm for pull

[sharp wing]

I rerolled for j'alter banner, got some accs with 2 ssr

but not single j'alter

[finite valve]

i would be ok with the rate if i can fucking FARM for the pull

which you can't

[sharp wing]

how much 1 10x cost nowadays?

in $

lol

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

it was some hilarious price

[finite valve]

10 sq for 11 pull

or was it 30?

dk dc tbh

[sharp wing]

30

and it was like $20+

idk

[finite valve]

i think they should have a $5 pack right?

[sharp wing]

no idea

never spent cash there

[finite valve]

i think at worst would be around 10 or 15 $ for 11 pull

[sharp wing]

I think that also depends on Jp or global

And we still waiting for EU publisher

[finite valve]

global got cucked on free sq

and ppl can't do shit to make them cough up more sq

[sharp wing]

lmao

[finite valve]

i think global got cucked on half the amount compare to what JP have

maybe more since i don't follow fgo

[sharp wing]

just play something idle game like afk arena for like 3rd game

10 mins per day of distraction

[finite valve]

i don't like the graphic tho

[sharp wing]

finally done mlbing all my common ships

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

(without retro)

not like it made my any closer on fleet tech to anything

5 4 4 2

[finite valve]

fleet tech is like whatever tbh

might be good once you max them all out

[sharp wing]

it's personal

[finite valve]

but atm is like meh

[sharp wing]

Well, i have friends who collect all ships, but never lb or lvl them

It's a reason

to finally get around that xD

i'm dne mlbing all commons now at least

now shitton of those ijn rare dds

and french DDs

If they made fleet tech work in PVP

another 🐳 aspect besides rings

[finite valve]

not like it matter when RNG cucked you in the ass anyway

[sharp wing]

Did they fixed it applying to enemy def fleet tho?

[finite valve]

Press [X] to doubt

[sharp wing]

🥔 + 🍝

[finite valve]

i am more interested in whether they going to fix monarch or not

which i would say a big fat no

[stark raft]

1. Fixed inconsistencies between Limit Break upgrade descriptions and actual in-battle effects for Monarch, Izumo, and Super Gamer Kizuna Ai.

[sharp wing]

well, since max fate fixes it anyway, no1 gonna bother

[stark raft]

That was their "fix"

[finite valve]

really?

so need another 100+ bp to fix her?

LMFAO

[stark raft]

fate sim not gonna fix anything

[finite valve]

so izumo and kizuna suffer the same bug as monarch?

[stark raft]

yep thats what JP patch notes say

not even a bug

they say they just fucked up descriptions

and called it a day

[finite valve]

wait don't they need to fix it first if they patch note it?

oh you mean the "bug" is intended?

LMFAO

[stark raft]

yep

for years no one noticed it

til now

[finite valve]

and they just going to play it cool and say "its intended"

LMFAO

[sharp wing]

About Enemy Subs
A new event is planned for the end of July!

You will face enemy submarines in the event, so make sure you are prepared by clearing the SOS Signals and the weekly Transport Raid!

lmao

[finite valve]

dk if this means they are incompetence or lazy?

most likely another type of raid

[sharp wing]

hope it's not global

[finite valve]

pretty sure they going to sync this time

since we are getting london

[sharp wing]

That depends if the so called USS event for NA is Sandy

or something big

then it will be only big event till anniv

[finite valve]

doubt we going to get an exclusive event w/o the other server getting it

most likely sandy at this point

unless the sub tease is actually for iowa

which i doubt

[sharp wing]

lol

[finite valve]

does iowa have anything sub related IRL?

[sharp wing]

iowa is one of those not used things iirc

like anti derpitz/bismarck and yamato, but they ofc never met

[finite valve]

yeh sound like sandy at this point

[sharp wing]

lmao

[stark raft]

iowa mostly popular cause of kc

[finite valve]

well most boat are popular due to kc anyway lel

[stark raft]

much loved like the kongous

[finite valve]

before kc all the ships are like whatever man

after kc is like
meh battle ship need to inspect her inside

[stark raft]

yeah popular weeb game

that got anime and doujins

too bad they failed to globalize

now AL is thriving

[sharp wing]

They cannot globalize, lol

KC is nationalistic game

no censorship can do good to make it global

[stark raft]

they can just rip themselves off

[sharp wing]

lol

[finite valve]

they can at least drop the region lock

[stark raft]

instead of slowly drowning

[sharp wing]

region lock is a joke

to any1 who has brains

[finite valve]

still a problem nontheless

[sharp wing]

it's like a meme

[finite valve]

just cus you can by pass it does not mean its not a problem

[sharp wing]

most publisher who do region lock have to do it

due to their contract

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

kc doesnt want their game outside their market

economical and political reasons

uts foreigners fault for trying to force to play it

lol

[finite valve]

tbh kc is more akin to res management and RNG simulator more than anything tbh

[sharp wing]

like many other games

[shy hazel]

it is originally a web browse game anyways

no fancy phone graphics

not to mention

its old

[finite valve]

and yet weeb flock to it like the bible or something lel

you can't control anything in battle

[sharp wing]

panzer waltz is like KC tankgirls equivalent

[stark raft]

need something new

plane girls

[finite valve]

funny that you said that

we actually have a plane girls game coming

no ETA tho

Project CERIS is the name if you are interested

[sharp wing]

I have one in sunbscriptions

yes that one

[finite valve]

going to be a moba tho

[sharp wing]

pre-registrations i mean

[finite valve]

oh a whale i see?

i don't do patreon crap

[sharp wing]

what?

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

are you sure you talking same game?

[finite valve]

yes?

[sharp wing]

pre reg is free

[finite valve]

or you mean the pre res for the close beta shit?

those are limited tho

so 50 50 whether you get it or not

[sharp wing]

It's a turn based strategy game

[finite valve]

might just be my impression whether the game is a moba or not

[sharp wing]

lol

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

how you came up with moba

not every multiplayer is moba

not like it's pvp game

[finite valve]

they specifically said they going to switch to pvpve after the initial pve tho

the moba part might just me thinking way ahead since they use both mobile and steam + pvpish focus on late game

[sharp wing]

I might drop it, if they continue to make it more pvp

[finite valve]

well they said PVEVP

on second thought does any other game got this system?

never saw any game got that system tbh

[sharp wing]

well, some game have a pvp map that is affected by players actions

But it's different from pve chanpters map

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

It's more like a mmo with player controlled cities/castles

[finite valve]

might be an open map where you take objective guarded by NPC?

[sharp wing]

Well, neutral object usually guarded by npc, till 1 of factions/guilds/players capture it

then it's either friendly npcs or purely player defended

[finite valve]

yeh might be that same system then

[sharp wing]

And i hate that system

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

as well as any open world pvp

[finite valve]

just hope they add pve raid so you don't have to do those pvp

[sharp wing]

There is no point to play t initially if it is like that

[finite valve]

just play casual tbh

[sharp wing]

playing pvp game casually

yeah, no

even less point

[finite valve]

all of moba game in history

[sharp wing]

moba is not a game

is a cesspool

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

/mute all

[strange moat]

You do not have permission to use this command

[finite valve]

ez

[sharp wing]

keked

what's the point of playing mmo then

[finite valve]

for the fashion duh

[sharp wing]

lel

[finite valve]

everyone knows mmo is basically fashion game

[sharp wing]

i mean, those kind mmo

not mmorpgs

like mobas and session mmos

[finite valve]

dungeon crawler mmo?

most of them are pve focus

[sharp wing]

mmorpgs are already 95% solo play

[finite valve]

can't deny that lel

[sharp wing]

unless you want to carry some crabs

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

My Sodako w/ Shell under focused assault crited 10k on production
Wonder what numbers can JB dish out w/ her gun

[vague token]

big numbers

[sharp wing]

big like 5 digit

[midnight heron]

still wont be close to rhine drill dmg

[sharp wing]

Glowworm retro with + RAM damage

[midnight heron]

when u try to 0/10 near eos

[sharp wing]

that is same even mid season

1st half

[midnight heron]

nah man i didnt hav issues during 1st half

felt like everyone was rushing

[sharp wing]

well, in the last hr sure

[midnight heron]

reach 2nd half and u be like fk

[sharp wing]

I even have problems to reach 5/10 early after resets

[midnight heron]

😮

[radiant briar]

Hey guys why do people sometimes leave ships at lvl 110 ?

[vague token]

i mean, not everyone focused on pvp boats

120 takes work

especially for say

hiryuu

[radiant briar]

Whats the difference

Doesnt higher lvl means better stats

[finite valve]

gl trying to farm 2.3m exp

[vague token]

like, assuming you have a fixed amount of time to play

[finite valve]

also this exist

[vague token]

most people will spend it on boats that progress them

aka pve ships

not all pve ships translate to pvp

which means that you have to consider how much of your fixed resource to invest

on a mode that isnt a priority

[sharp wing]

Many ppl even barely have any 110 botes

[vague token]

entire

dock?

o.O

[sharp wing]

something like 120 prinz already makes my shiver

[finite valve]

gl trying to 120 china wall

[sharp wing]

ez

wdym

[coral wren]

yeah wym, 3 elites cheaper than 2 ssr's

[sharp wing]

retro sisters have 300 fp by 120 + 25% damage boost to IJN

yat has lowish fp but 2 guns and 2 AA guns, she is very decent aa boat and same +25% damage to IJN

they can roll over anything and everything

And how broken 30% evarate (not eva stat) yat buff on top 20% damage reduction you should already imagine by Amagi's example

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Junie rekts foxes

[finite valve]

dps > survivability
china wall dps are non existence
yes they are good at cockroaching but their dps are shit at best
can just use any normal VG team and will still clear map faster than china wall

[sharp wing]

shit dps? wdym

lol

300 fp boat shit dps

[finite valve]

then pls record a run when you use china wall vs normal VG and compare the time (using healer backline)

theory =/= practical dps

[sharp wing]

lol

and by "nromal" you probably mean CAs?

[finite valve]

heck i can even use CL and still got better time

[sharp wing]

my lvl 107 chinawall auto ch12 bosses

[finite valve]

eh i said time

i never said they don't work

i said their dps compare to normal VG are shitty

[sharp wing]

So i ran Akashi + VGs on 9-3

1. lvl108-107 chinawall only maxed 1st skills on all 3, +ijn damage lvl 4 on all and retro skill lvl 8 on both
2. lvl 110 cleve, ajax kai and 108 leander w/ maxed art command and maxed assault order
   maxed Tbsks, quint 533
   3* BB 1) 1:53 2) 1:55
   3* light 1) 2:15 2)2:14

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

swapped Ajax w/ Minne 2:08 time left

w/ Mle worse than full cl Tbsk setup on 3* bb node

maxed skill chinawall w/ 1/3 more damage will win over

it was obvious anyway

[finite valve]

what i hate about them is the amount of red to make them viable

4 skills right?

60 red book that can be use on other more OP ships

[sharp wing]

I skill ships non stop since september

and i bought 3rd slot right away

still ways to go

Before yat sen sisters were totally unviable anyway

paper

[finite valve]

problem with them is that they will always need at least 2 ships to even work

[sharp wing]

yat + 1 retro sister ye

but best is all 3

since sisters 1st skill also require them together

And yat 1st require 1 of em

That's why it's just my auto boss comp and it's very slow to lvl

[finite valve]

in conclusion a bunch of sis con that can't do shit w/o big sister around

[sharp wing]

But Yat is so kawaii

One of my fav

[ionic magnet]

should have compared them to usual pve botes like monty helena cleve and not ajax/leander

[sharp wing]

you can compare , if you have them at same lvl. Also helena for mobbing rather poor

[ionic magnet]

not really cos shes still a gunbote

[sharp wing]

but will deal less damage than torpboats

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

ajax will be mvp anyway

[ionic magnet]

not my helena

and why would you use her on mob anyway

[sharp wing]

that was my question

[ionic magnet]

wat

[sharp wing]

not like you ever make sense so whatever

[vague token]

oh, i thought i was the guy who made 0 sense ;)

[sharp wing]

You are just crazy

So that makes sense

[vague token]

[ionic magnet]

you're the one who assumed im using her on mobs for no reason

[sharp wing]

we were talking about mob testing in the 1st place

and you barged in

[ionic magnet]

doesn't change the fact that your assumption is

and now its my fault

excuse me for barging in on your channel

[sharp wing]

There nothing to assume, it was the topic of comparing

no need to make excuses

[trim horizon]

[shy hazel]

all of you

are losers

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[finite valve]

spoken by a loser who can't also get rank 1 EOS

[shy hazel]

shush

u still bigger loser than me

[vague token]

owo

[finite valve]

problem is i already accept my fate as a loser

better than a sore loser

[sharp wing]

gotta rush 5, cause i'm falling asleep again

Dreadful

[midnight heron]

no one pushing

finally 120 namagi tho

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

nothing like the post iris burnout

;)

[ionic magnet]

missed 3 charges reeeee

[shy hazel]

loser

[shell heron]

another loser of this season

[finite valve]

anyone going to do london kai tomorrow?

[ionic magnet]

i should really stop doing charges 10 mins before reset

so risky

[shell heron]

I never worked on another london since I started in august.

and I scrapped all my londons

[ionic magnet]

same got no london rn

[shell heron]

I took a bigger risk last season end you know. 9 matches against all stall comps

in 15 minutes

[coral wren]

Hm, i think kgv and aur might be the best choice for hms on offense

[ionic magnet]

inb4 london gonna be new meta bote

[shell heron]

another passive enemy debuffer

[coral wren]

The only thing that stops them from winning any game is retarded ai movement

And maaybe a saintlouis, but two maxed namayus with saint i met were killed on 1 attempt

Prob ppl don’t stack speed on them

[lament lichen]

stack too much speed its bad for them too

[coral wren]

Lol, iA’m telling you the only games i’ve been resetting so far are those where this shitty chinese ai is making your vg to catch every single salvo and torp, literally guiding them over te red circles even tho they are far from there

What is the optimal loadout for sanrui? Gyro and boiler?

Iirc blue used to have 2 boilers

[vague token]

im using gyro/rudder

cause she needs at least 1 evade item i think to use that skill

[shy hazel]

i have all ships

till w11

but refitting ships rn?

no uh

i need it for research

the gold

london goes from sr to ssr

so thatll prolly be

30k minimum

[coral wren]

For london to bemeta she should either buff better than yuki or debuff better than aur

[finite valve]

at least her new cg is cute enough

dk about chibi tho

[coral wren]

I don’t think she will be anything but a pve boat, not such thing as hms bias unfortunately

[midnight heron]

inb4 her retro skill buffs main fleet dmg :>

[lament lichen]

According the the chinese site her skill has 30% chance to double damage for main gun

Every boat she sinks she gets 1.5% acc and it stacks 8 times

[shy hazel]

trash for pvp then

[coral wren]

inb4 her retro skill buffs main fleet dmg :>
Unless it's 20% yuki would still be more valid

[midnight heron]

aw

[vague token]

wow that sounds disappointing

[midnight heron]

so shes pretty much suffolk

[vague token]

just focused assault + slow stacking accuracy

_>

[shy hazel]

agent turned into generic maid

[lament lichen]

A worse version of witcha

Hms bad

[midnight heron]

agent 47 disguising as maid

[shy hazel]

u dont even need much hit in pve frontline

moreso hms

[lament lichen]

Hms meme is real

[shy hazel]

u can just use royal trash in backline

and u get the buff u need

need kill to gain hit

look at aurora passive

[vague token]

it's also hit, instead of hit rate >_>

[ionic magnet]

welp thats just sad if CN data is true

[vague token]

like, i guess it's better than giant hunter?

[ionic magnet]

her having light armor, low hp and low-ish eva is already sad so im expecting more from her retro

[vague token]

what, you mean something cool like york?

xD

[lament lichen]

London retro stats are still bad

[vague token]

like, "london stealths for a short time, and her next salvo and torps after stealth ends gain 100% crit"

secret agent power

[coral wren]

they ain't even trying to make interesting abilities anymore

[lament lichen]

London just another gun boat in the end

[coral wren]

just copypasting from one ship to another

[vague token]

i mean

york is a cool gun boat

[lament lichen]

Ca and dd gun combo is pretty nice

[coral wren]

sad company

[lament lichen]

Too bad hms getting memed too hard

[ionic magnet]

wait london doesn't have mgm+1 does she

[lament lichen]

Also she has less hp than mogami

No

No mgm

[ionic magnet]

rip

[lament lichen]

But 160% secodnary gun

[vague token]

160% on a real gun or the fake gun

[lament lichen]

A dd gun

[vague token]

oh she loses her torp slot?

[lament lichen]

Or you can just slap on some torps

[vague token]

oh

ehhh

[lament lichen]

Its torps/dd gun

[vague token]

id still rather have terror field

100% of the time

york is how an hms retro should be done ;)

[ionic magnet]

160% wot

[vague token]

because it saves the torp efficiency

145->160

[coral wren]

york was retrofitted long ago tho?

[vague token]

but it gets the optional slot

i guess?

[ionic magnet]

so shes a DD cosplaying as CA?

[lament lichen]

Yeah

[ionic magnet]

[lament lichen]

With that 3.8k hp

[coral wren]

it's either ijn or nothing it seems

[ionic magnet]

interesting

[coral wren]

fucking jp bias

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

maybe shes worth testing then

thats like BB-tier efficiency

[shy hazel]

in pvp?

[ionic magnet]

well pvp is a long shot cos of slots

[vague token]

it's like having z23 with double the hp

[shy hazel]

nice meme

[ionic magnet]

but i got nothing to level now anyways so ill try

[vague token]

oh z23 has 175

you know z23 would be cool with 2 dd guns

xD

175 and 120 would be fun

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

toss in a biscuit buff and you get big dd gun deeps

oh well

seeing another double gun ship like seattle isnt gonna happen for a while probs

[shy hazel]

seattle is,also a meme anyways

[ionic magnet]

almost thought its kiro

[finite valve]

they really pushing the sub meme lel