pvp

[sharp wing]

Missed opportunities

[shell heron]

I know

[sharp wing]

tbh it's hard not to be top 10 on Sandy if you don't miss a ticket

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

thts the diff in avrora

[sharp wing]

well, masochists

[shy hazel]

cay dropping this season so,fast

[buoyant parrot]

So close yet so far

[sharp wing]

damn, that's some rush force

Force masters

top 3

[shy hazel]

thats fleetpower

u dont reach 9k in pvp

[vague token]

lol

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[sharp wing]

force is force

[shy hazel]

you need more gold

[buoyant parrot]

2 more so I could enter top 3 in Fleet Power so I could immortalize myself

[sharp wing]

Sandy top 3

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

power of 🐳

[finite valve]

bunch of whale

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

1k+ dock with dupes of each star lvl

[shy hazel]

these people has 3 copies of ea units

[vague token]

[finite valve]

i am a whale and even i think fleet ranking is a waste of money

[shy hazel]

1.5k dockspace

[vague token]

i thought only the highest power copy counted xD

[sharp wing]

nah

each star copy

[shy hazel]

retrofit and vanilla counts

!fleetpower

[vague token]

bot is dead

[shy hazel]

oh bot doesnt work here

[buoyant parrot]

even event ships count. Everything that gives Fleet Power is at play

[finite valve]

only highest copies of a ship count tho right?

[sharp wing]

in each star category

[finite valve]

dk about vanilla vs kai tho

[shy hazel]

refit and vanilla is diff

[buoyant parrot]

technically its the over all score of your entire account gears/ship/enhancement/retro everything

[sharp wing]

vanilla and kai count as 2 diff ships

[shy hazel]

each limit break is diff

apparently

[sharp wing]

each limit break is diff ship

[shy hazel]

so lb1 lb0 can,count

crazy mechanics

[sharp wing]

but only highest power ship of each limit break count

[finite valve]

yeh i think most rank 1 have 2k dock space at min

no way you can get 10k+ with only 1k dock

[vague token]

[buoyant parrot]

yup

[sharp wing]

so you to have 0>max lb copies + retro to max

[buoyant parrot]

I have 2k dock space

[shy hazel]

ether has 2k

[sharp wing]

lol

🐋

[buoyant parrot]

but I only consume 600 as of now

[finite valve]

i am at 1k and that's good enough for me

[shy hazel]

where is daxam

[buoyant parrot]

if I manage to ramp up to 1.5k im sure to be rank 4 by now

[shy hazel]

with his anti whale rants

[sharp wing]

I'm a 440

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[vague token]

310 xD

[sharp wing]

Dax doesn't support devs, poor pleb

[shy hazel]

i rmber daxam always fight with ether

[buoyant parrot]

[shy hazel]

when we mention fleet power

[sharp wing]

lol

[buoyant parrot]

hey we make the server which the plebians play RUN

no bully

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

lol, when f2p players shit on whales

[buoyant parrot]

sad la

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

they wouldn't even be able to play, lmao

if not for whales

[shy hazel]

its not my problem i have more money to spend than u

i work to pay

[sharp wing]

Some neets here pay too

[buoyant parrot]

but we understand, ish okay. If not for this f2p we can't enjoy a good population to devour play with

[sharp wing]

🥘

[finite valve]

the perk of being a functional member of society who can wipe their own butt without mommy credit card

feels good

[shy hazel]

spending barely matters in this game

anyways

[sharp wing]

well

In most games tbh

[shy hazel]

not when u play koreqn mmos

[sharp wing]

In any game i only spend on cosmetics

[shy hazel]

blackdesert

[sharp wing]

even mmos

[finite valve]

spending only matter if the rate were trash like e7 or FGO with good pvp reward

[buoyant parrot]

ew.... don't mention that trash here

[finite valve]

and any asian MMO

[shy hazel]

i buy skins to sell for gears cos i have no time to grind for it

[sharp wing]

I only buy for myself

[finite valve]

worth it tho?

[sharp wing]

and playing rest of game f2p was never a problem to me

[shy hazel]

ofc it is

[finite valve]

does 1 skin = 1 highest gear

i don't play bdo

[shy hazel]

imagine me working a day for a grand

[sharp wing]

In normal games you cannot even buy best gear

It's drop only

[shy hazel]

and i only pay a hundred

to get sonething

u grind in a week

[finite valve]

depend on whether the gear bound on pick up or not

[shy hazel]

dpdnds on the game

[finite valve]

most of the time you can sell on auction
the next problem is whether the gear is bound or not

since you will need to bound / un bound them to sell on auction

[buoyant parrot]

I remember the days where I use to have a $6k worth account in Ragnarok then I sold it for $2.5k(devaluates over time)... I regret spending so much in that game

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

lmao

[shy hazel]

i never sold most of my accnts

let it expire

[finite valve]

most of my acc are f2p anyway

so not like i am missing anything

[buoyant parrot]

Stay like that

[shy hazel]

its a matter of marginal utility anyways

[sharp wing]

f2p or not doesn't matter

[buoyant parrot]

don't pamper yourself too much. Otherwise you might regret it in the future

[shy hazel]

as long as i was happy with the game nothing is wasted

like being in the top guild top player list

[buoyant parrot]

I'm telling you now base on my experience for I do regret it. But you know I'm already in the abyss soooo meh just go with the flow of darkness

[shy hazel]

ablnd on the fastest raid clear

in the game

[finite valve]

i play mmo for the community

not for ego boost

[sharp wing]

mmo community

[shy hazel]

communities has top and bottom

in any mmo

[finite valve]

and all the top are mega whale

[buoyant parrot]

#al-general <- COMMUNITY 😂

[sharp wing]

well, not all

[elder crane]

[shy hazel]

u see in ff online

[sharp wing]

I only spend on skins

does that count as whale

[shy hazel]

only top 3 guild was able to do ultimate coil of bahamut

for a month

[sharp wing]

In early days of Tera we had only 5 const parties on server to do hardest dungeon for months tho?

[finite valve]

ff 14 is only 1 game out of a mountain of other mmo

[shy hazel]

i need to be in that guild is the goal

[buoyant parrot]

I wish I could be like you

I tend to be always the one starting the guild

[sharp wing]

And i'm guidless 90% time

[shy hazel]

i hate managing guilds

guild management always comes with drama

[buoyant parrot]

in Grand Chase DC Night Raven is currently at the top 50 right now

[sharp wing]

a lot of it

[finite valve]

tell me something i dk

[sharp wing]

lmao

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

because u cant satisfy everyone

[buoyant parrot]

we used to be top on Kings Raid as well

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

And i managed 4k and 1k guilds...

[shy hazel]

i managed a top 100 guild in gbf

[sharp wing]

mobile game guilds...

[shy hazel]

thats still mobage

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

ppl just like to bring personal shit into the internet and hope the community can sort it out

[buoyant parrot]

and don't mention ragnarok... that was my most emotional disturbing turmoil in my gaming history life

[shy hazel]

instakick someone who doesnt meet quota

[finite valve]

lel

we are human not saint

[shy hazel]

then friend of that person makes drama

not our problem

[buoyant parrot]

that

i hat ethat stupid drama

[shy hazel]

but it escaltes

[buoyant parrot]

if I see someone doing that shit in the guild BOTH OF THEM is expelled

[sharp wing]

At least gbf don't have 1k max...

imaging 1k hand picked guild like that...

[buoyant parrot]

its hard man

[sharp wing]

it is...

[shy hazel]

what do u mean

[sharp wing]

I lasted only half year

[shy hazel]

all our members are handpicked

stolen from other guilds

[sharp wing]

I mean you don't have 1k of em

[shy hazel]

gbf is a political arena

[sharp wing]

Imagine 1k of that + drama it brings

[shy hazel]

u dirty another guild

so u can cucc members

[steep fog]

[shy hazel]

that u want from them

[steep fog]

I lost 2 attempts

[sharp wing]

and imagine that in mmo

[steep fog]

cos felt asleep

gg

[shy hazel]

rip u

[stark raft]

I slept on 4 ticks

cause deadlist

[buoyant parrot]

well its a good thing that drama only escalates in game... In the mmorpg that I played before that also escalated in real life to the point that there's like shooting and brawling is involved...

[sharp wing]

i slept 4 too

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

lol

[shy hazel]

most gnes i played are global

so it rarely hppens

[buoyant parrot]

yeah I've learned my lesson

never again I will be playing anything local game

[sharp wing]

How you even get to know some1 identity lol

[shy hazel]

closely knit guilds

[sharp wing]

Un less person is stupid

[shy hazel]

add others

in social media

[finite valve]

either from off meet or stupid enough to post online?

[shy hazel]

it spills,over

[finite valve]

both can happen

[buoyant parrot]

yup it starts in game then spread in social media then game community etc

then ROUND 1 FIGHT!

[stark raft]

just use alt accts for games

why use your real one

[sharp wing]

I never use anything with real name for gaming, lol

[buoyant parrot]

because some does.

[finite valve]

you need to switch between 2 acc tho

[sharp wing]

I don't even have real name social media accs

[finite valve]

just tell them outright you don't have 1

[sharp wing]

lol

[finite valve]

what are they going to do kick you?

i would gladly leave if that the case

[sharp wing]

Not like i use social media outside registration anyway

[buoyant parrot]

well sometimes it requires you to have a real facebook account

[stark raft]

no just kick them instead

[buoyant parrot]

you want to know what example is that? My guild in Ragnarok.

[vague token]

o.O

[sharp wing]

lol

[buoyant parrot]

we have spy shit and etc

[finite valve]

i am apply for a guild in a GAME

not for a job position

[sharp wing]

That spy shit is real tho

[finite valve]

if they req me to do that shit

fuck them tbh

[sharp wing]

we had that in many games

[shy hazel]

ive never been kicked

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

because im too good to let go

i quit instead

[buoyant parrot]

and we have gears over $200 a piece that we lend to some old members that in the end sometimes run away with that equipment

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

why would i be kicked im always one of the top performers

[buoyant parrot]

have you ever played EVE Online?

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

ohboi

[finite valve]

LMFAO

now that's a name i never thought going to hear from here

gg

[buoyant parrot]

[sharp wing]

lmao

[shy hazel]

eve requires too much time and real cash

i pass

[finite valve]

eve is not a game

[sharp wing]

well, you can actually earn cash ingame

[finite valve]

is life

[buoyant parrot]

yup

[sharp wing]

and invest $0

[buoyant parrot]

you can earn a living out of that game

[sharp wing]

yeah

[shy hazel]

yourr basically working in game

[sharp wing]

just earn ingame

[shy hazel]

[buoyant parrot]

exactly

[sharp wing]

not like you are not doing it atm

[stark raft]

fuck EVE

never want to see an excel spreadsheet again

[sharp wing]

If work bring you fun

[vague token]

dear god im glad i skipped all of these situations

[sharp wing]

It's good life

[vague token]

xD

[buoyant parrot]

yeah, just be careful of those people I mentioned on top. That's when it starts to get PERSONAL

[shy hazel]

then u make big bank steal every other plyers money

yeah right

good game

[vague token]

or just delete money

from existence

[sharp wing]

just like real life

[finite valve]

i mean when you invest like thousand of $ into a "game"

ofc its going to get personal

[vague token]

didnt like 1k+ dollars just get evaporated when a raid accidentally blew up the paid cargo?

[shy hazel]

1k is a,small figure in eve

people spend millions in there

lol

[sharp wing]

Corporations operate there

lol

[buoyant parrot]

yup

[sharp wing]

1k pfff

[finite valve]

1k is a drop in the bucket

[vague token]

xD

i mean the concept

[sharp wing]

no1 even will notice few ks

[vague token]

like you can literally blow up the money

you have given the devs money for nothing if it gets literally destroyed

[finite valve]

not like its anyway diff from real life anyway

[vague token]

unlike other games where you still get some kind of virtual item

[finite valve]

you invest you lost

just move on lel

[sharp wing]

lol

It's like sinking ship in KC

[buoyant parrot]

I lost worth $600 in eve 8 months ago... I warped in a space where there was a pirate waiting for my Freight ship... Someone in the corp sold the info I'm traversing that path and they ganked me

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

never play freighters

[finite valve]

i am surprise you manage to find the rat lel

[buoyant parrot]

I stopped playing for 2 months then went back again

[shy hazel]

being a pirate in that game feels good

[sharp wing]

I played some games on and off for more than 10 years, so...

[buoyant parrot]

f u... because of that I'm a police in EVE currently hunting down bounties

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

path of vengeance

[buoyant parrot]

[sharp wing]

And all those comeback EVE stories, lol

Some ppl put so much effort, lmao

[buoyant parrot]

you invest emotion time and money on that game, so having Azur Lane as a fall back is relaxing and spending money here with you knowing no body will gank you except gacha is sooo soothing

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i just like al cause it doesnt seem like exploitative gacha

[sharp wing]

i only spend on cosmetics in mmo anyway

[buoyant parrot]

you know what they say "LOOKS IS POWER"

[sharp wing]

Most games endgame = fashion

[buoyant parrot]

when you have all that bling bling to show off says a lot about your character~

[sharp wing]

When you have all the show off, but no gear

[finite valve]

not to mention most of them are bench warmer since you can only use 6 of them at a time
money well spent

[shell heron]

who needs gear when a full fleet of oathed ships with L2D skins is better

[sharp wing]

Well, cosmetics are character bound usually

[buoyant parrot]

true to that too much shiny stuffs with no force to back it up is sooo much fun everyone is scared not knowingly you have nothing to back that shit up

[sharp wing]

so you buy for each character

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[shell heron]

it's shiny and expensive

[finite valve]

yes but the point is that what use for a skin if they going to sit in your dock?

[sharp wing]

Good you can inspect any1

usually

[finite valve]

you know like using them for the skin?

[sharp wing]

Well, mmo is different shit

for Al yes

[finite valve]

same as mmo tbh

[sharp wing]

AL is buy 1 skin and forget forever

[finite valve]

since you can only use 1 costume at a time

so having all of them is not really helping much

[sharp wing]

Well, if you fine with 1 for eternity you jsut buy once and forget

But you change em often

[buoyant parrot]

yeah... I wish they had a feature that gives you option in the Profile section you can show off your dock or your selected number of characters to display and flex

[finite valve]

implying devs not going to release another more sexy version of an already sexy costume

[sharp wing]

Implying that happens to only dozen ships

rest will have 1 skin for eternity

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

esp the ones with ded artists

[finite valve]

zzz

[sharp wing]

look at hood artist and his ships

[finite valve]

just throw out the old rigging and make a new skin if you ask me zzz

or just remake the whole cg like they did with the colorado sister

[sharp wing]

not only them

But ye, if you swap artist, you change everything

But they don't do it to already ingame ships

[finite valve]

colorado sister did

abit only on CN

but it shows that they can and will if they need to

[sharp wing]

not for ships that were out there on all versions for a while

[finite valve]

dk for sure tho

[sharp wing]

besides there always new ships income

not worth to bother with old ones

from company view

[finite valve]

unless its near or = to sirius l2d

no competition tbh

[sharp wing]

eh

[buoyant parrot]

so you're saying we need more lewd L2D?

[finite valve]

i never play al out in public anyway so not really much a problem to me

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[sharp wing]

WEEEEAAAAAAAAAAK

I play Al at work on Emu

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

I'm fearless

[shell heron]

extra points if you set albacore as your sec when she is out

[sharp wing]

I'm no lolicon

[finite valve]

same tbh

[sharp wing]

Siri L2D

[finite valve]

she is indeed "naked"

but not stack enough

[sharp wing]

Biscuit L2D looks pretty erotic too

[finite valve]

don't think ppl going to notice the cleavage tho

[sharp wing]

On big screen sure

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

tbh there also many vanilla ships

that looks that way

[coral wren]

what numbers are for bis namayuu?

[sharp wing]

tbh loli l2d is off

almost 14k

[finite valve]

around 14k for either i think

[sharp wing]

or a bit above

[finite valve]

no more tho

[sharp wing]

like 14.1

[ionic magnet]

13.9k

[coral wren]

vang should be 14k as well? or less

[finite valve]

for main maybe

[shell heron]

now is that fully oathed or not?

[sharp wing]

13.9-14.1

[finite valve]

VG is around 13.9 - 14

[sharp wing]

vg 13.4+

[finite valve]

fully oathed ofc

[shell heron]

what VG is that?

[ionic magnet]

14k is most likely cata on hiryuu

[sharp wing]

14k vg is almost meme

[shell heron]

my VG is 13.4

[sharp wing]

my is 13.4 too

14k vg is like dildo, lol

[shell heron]

or 2

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

i use sirius ykk and non oath jesus

[sharp wing]

more like 2

[ionic magnet]

got baited by 400 difference

easy +0

[finite valve]

let me check my score

[ionic magnet]

[finite valve]

don't even remember lel

[sharp wing]

scores are ded

ranks*

even top 100 rarely has enough score now

only like top 30 has

[finite valve]

yeh VG is like 13.4

[sharp wing]

yeah

[finite valve]

not like i ever care about number zzz

[sharp wing]

that pretty optimal number

Well, when i see 14k+ vgs i know it's memeish

so kinda ez win

[shell heron]

cata vs badge on hiryuu didn't change much from 13.9k

[sharp wing]

same as very high main score

my main is 13988 xd

[finite valve]

can still get unlucky with torp RNG tbh

[ionic magnet]

VGs hardly matter now tbh as long as you havr jun/ykkz you're fine

[finite valve]

sometimes i does lose to those meme team

full torp instant kill

[sharp wing]

do you even double bulge?

[ionic magnet]

its cata vs tank not badge

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

i use rudder + pearl on sirius for tank

[ionic magnet]

some ppl are not believers

[finite valve]

only jesus got torp

[sharp wing]

lol

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

not using tank

[finite valve]

not like torp matter vs non meme team anyway

[sharp wing]

well, it does

even my Junie can dent vg

with her cosmetic torps

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

And it's hard to find weaker torps

[shell heron]

just oath her and get 200 affinity

then they become toy torps

[finite valve]

well someone need to wear that rudder

[sharp wing]

I did

[finite valve]

and it ain't going to be jesus

[sharp wing]

Nanoda

[finite valve]

i use foxes amagi

LMFAO

[sharp wing]

nanoda boiler + fe standard

[shell heron]

I'm still prefering toolbox for now

[finite valve]

wait i am talking about the gold rudder

[shell heron]

until people het off foxes

[sharp wing]

what

[stark raft]

I use golden boiler

[sharp wing]

i thought bout bulge

[finite valve]

i am saying i use rudder + pearl on sirius instead of torp

[shell heron]

assuming we have spare rudders

[sharp wing]

well, he is foxes user

[finite valve]

well you won't if you using cancer

[ionic magnet]

sirius is your lead no?

[finite valve]

i am not hence why the spare rudder

yes

[ionic magnet]

i see then doesn't really matter

[finite valve]

jesus is off with boiler + torp

[shy hazel]

whats the deal with rudders

[sharp wing]

well, i'd rather pearl juneau then and bulge rudder sirius tbh

[finite valve]

and i ain't going to put rudder on her

[shy hazel]

i have two but i dont use,both in pvp

[shell heron]

I like to believe it helps my nagato survive a little longer

not that I ever see it's skill go off

[vague token]

didnt blue do the math

[sharp wing]

skill is meme

[vague token]

someone did the math

[finite valve]

skill worth more for VG

[vague token]

i forget who

[shy hazel]

it doesnt show wheb the skill procs

[shell heron]

blue did no?

[ionic magnet]

rudder is ~10% eva rate on backlines

[finite valve]

even then it goes off at weird timing

[shy hazel]

u just block attacks

for 3 seconds

[steep fog]

I put rudder on nagato

[shy hazel]

i met a nagato like that

[steep fog]

[shy hazel]

because shes the only one left like that

[shell heron]

20s, when most barrages and airstrikes are before or after that time window

[vague token]

i mean

[shy hazel]

so,i tot this guy must be using rudder

[vague token]

lots of skills are designed around 20

[finite valve]

not to mention the travel time

[vague token]

too bad all the top tier ones arent locked to time

[shy hazel]

i prefer full out offense on,backline than rely on rudder

[finite valve]

by the time either reach the back line

buff wear off by that time

[shell heron]

but someone did do the math and and the eHP gain is worth the lost in DPS

[finite valve]

only useful when you are vs their VG

[ionic magnet]

yes especially when BBs are so thicc and pvp doubles that hp

[steep fog]

it still gives decent eva

[shell heron]

or it is a better option until FW rerun happens when we get out 2nd HSFCR

[shy hazel]

maybe when ppl have more full 120 fleets

[shell heron]

[shy hazel]

because right now

i demolish anyone and everyone

[vague token]

doubles? more like 2.32x

;)

[ionic magnet]

but it hardly matters when namagi can just brute force everything even with half baked setup

[vague token]

remember when we used to think that attacker just had a flat 20% damage bonus

and that was it

[sharp wing]

namagi more of outlast

[finite valve]

more like 20%+ atk too strong lel

[sharp wing]

wdym

[vague token]

but instead there was actually a lot of changes

like cls getting 20% damage boost

xD

knowledge is a curse

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

I mean till wskai and Azuma it's all just not trash ships on offense win anyway

so not worth even bothering

[shell heron]

I enjoy that 7.5s barrage from amagi. It's like a WS snipe, but different target and faster

[shy hazel]

ever since my fleet reached full 120

i always finish battles with ships surviving frontline

[vague token]

"it's like a ws snipe" but the base damage is 230

[shy hazel]

cos everyone else is underleveled

[vague token]

and you get 2x2

[sharp wing]

well, not on sandy at least

nanoda survives anyway

[shy hazel]

even if u meet another 120 fleet

[sharp wing]

even is she is underlvled

[shy hazel]

20% dmg boost

is retarded

[steep fog]

my vg is not even maxed

jun still 112

[sharp wing]

my vg survived vs overlvled ships so whatever

[shy hazel]

i farmes jun in french gun farm

[steep fog]

ykkz 117

[shy hazel]

suddenly 120

[steep fog]

bel 116

[shell heron]

It's "like". I just use it to hit the side threats so it's easy cleanup when big 7 shoots

[sharp wing]

3 my pvp ships reached 120 much before 200 aff

[steep fog]

worst thing is my hiryuu only 113

[shell heron]

that's what happened when I tossed my junie in dorms

[finite valve]

got both bunnies to 120 funny enough

[shell heron]

for a really long time

[finite valve]

while my nagato is 113

[steep fog]

also finally got junyou

[shy hazel]

i threw my whole pvp fleet in dorm cept nagaama

till 115

[steep fog]

got all 12-4 drops

[shy hazel]

grinded the difference in french event

[steep fog]

finishing nep farm soon

only ibuki left

[sharp wing]

Roon will be my last after Ibuki

[finite valve]

just thinking about the VG farm when i am done with all the backline

[sharp wing]

finishing Nep atm

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

i DO NOT look forward to it one bit

fucking hell

[steep fog]

I did roon b4

[shy hazel]

im just 120ing neptune rn

[sharp wing]

vg is no problem

[steep fog]

it was so painful

[shy hazel]

nit rly interested in grinding

other ships than nep monarch

[shell heron]

My namagi was 120 day 1, they were my go to's before ch 12

[steep fog]

cant do roon in 12-4 AND getting vg mvp

[stark raft]

I'm levelling lusty and sandy in w12

[shy hazel]

im finished with all prs tho

[stark raft]

maybe I should get a snaildridge to 120

[finite valve]

wdym by finish?

[steep fog]

I only farm pr in 12-4 now

[sharp wing]

well, i never use maxed ships, so i had no stored exp

[finite valve]

dev 30 them all?

[sharp wing]

max fate

[vague token]

o.O

[shy hazel]

im not even interested in dev30 the other 4 ships

[steep fog]

cant even fuel research anymore

[shell heron]

I opted for efficient baguette gun farming over PR exp during the event

[steep fog]

no cubes and gold

[shell heron]

Would have been done by now

[steep fog]

actually still have 200 cubes

[shy hazel]

i finished building all,of them in 36 days

[ionic magnet]

i wonder how much exp is needed for 130

[shy hazel]

[steep fog]

but wanted to save for anni

[finite valve]

@shell heron and what does that cost you?

[ionic magnet]

my ws has 2mil exp cos of aff farming

[shell heron]

96k oil for 4 extra guns

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

130 should need 5 mill

[steep fog]

my ws should be close to 120

[vague token]

35k oil, not even 1 extra

_>

[ionic magnet]

5 mil ohboi

[shy hazel]

not interestes in ws rn

[sharp wing]

i was at 40k score at 19 bps...

[shy hazel]

kai seems too far

6 months

[steep fog]

sandy kai should be right after anni?

[vague token]

doesnt ws kai come after hiryuu kai anyways

[shy hazel]

6 months after sandy kai

[stark raft]

this is EN

[sharp wing]

Sandy kai should be wfew weeks after ch12

[shell heron]

I'm living in 7-2 rn so might as well work on 120 ws

[finite valve]

pretty sure we going to get bunnies before ws

[stark raft]

you dont know what spaghetti they might throw at you

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

we got delayed sandy compared to jp

what

[vague token]

🍝

[steep fog]

after I finish getting all pr

gonna stop grinding

and only do oil comm

[finite valve]

out of oil?

[shy hazel]

out of gold

[sharp wing]

I'm already in comm mode

can't farm outside event, lol

[shy hazel]

monarch dev 30

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

nep dev 22

all others are dev 19~20

[steep fog]

havent done any oil comm in like 4 months

[shy hazel]

[steep fog]

[shy hazel]

i just get wtv research ill get

[sharp wing]

if you have time to spend yr oil sure

[stark raft]

Monarch fate 3 Nep dev 28

[shy hazel]

[steep fog]

my dev lvl is low af

[shy hazel]

youll be regretting rushing fate sim anyways

[steep fog]

sanrui dev 28

[sharp wing]

my dev lvls are ~15

[steep fog]

monarch dev 23

[sharp wing]

cause free comms

[shy hazel]

gotta see that leftover monarch bps

wtv

[lament lichen]

Nep dev 27 and 3 rudders

[stark raft]

3 cubes wanna give monarch bonus

not my fault

[steep fog]

I got 2 rudders and 2 nepgun

2 sanrui gun too

[vague token]

second staag soon

[lament lichen]

I never see the good bps researc

Only the equips one

[shell heron]

I saw one once for nep before I went to bed

[shy hazel]

i build any ships so wtv

[shell heron]

I should have taken it

[steep fog]

I do anything beside izumo

but now in no gold mode

[shy hazel]

if i concentrate neptune would be dev 28 by now

[steep fog]

so only do free/plate research

[shell heron]

I would love to concentrate on one ship, but the game says no

[steep fog]

gonna spam cube research after anni

[shell heron]

140 roon bps. I don't even have roon

yet

[shy hazel]

[stark raft]

I estimate 60 cubes for essex + taihoe

[steep fog]

gotta dev 30 monarch and roon

[stark raft]

[shy hazel]

inb4

[steep fog]

for 13-4 META team

[shy hazel]

event build cuccs all your cubes

[steep fog]

ws kai monarch centaur roon helena sandy

[shy hazel]

and u still miss a,ship

[steep fog]

[vague token]

yeah this sub event booted me under 200

[shy hazel]

[stark raft]

highest cubes was 80 for bismarck

[vague token]

i was holding around 250 after iris

[shell heron]

I would like to see an event take 1100 cubes from me

[shy hazel]

iris took me 450 cubes

[vague token]

oh right

[steep fog]

me still no iroha

[vague token]

jean bart

[steep fog]

[vague token]

murdered your cubes

[stark raft]

[shell heron]

[steep fog]

I got jb in 10 builds

[shy hazel]

60 cubes on subs

[shell heron]

60 cubes on iris, 140 on subs

[stark raft]

one of my daily builds got me iroha

so im good on subs now till u47

[shy hazel]

youll run out of luck nevertheless

[stark raft]

[shy hazel]

on one evenr eventually

gotta accept it

[steep fog]

prolly gonna skip iroha

[shy hazel]

raven bought 1.2k cubes and never got essex

remember

[vague token]

o.O

[stark raft]

desire sensor

[steep fog]

your luck got worse when u whale

[stark raft]

too strong

[shy hazel]

excluding the one he has before that 1.2k

[steep fog]

so u spend more

[shell heron]

they'll make me buy gold before cubes

[shy hazel]

[steep fog]

its coded in the game

[coral wren]

i want an option to return oath rings and get my crystals back

[shy hazel]

he also bought like 400k gold

aftee that he dislike al

so his videos,now are more memes

[steep fog]

just dont whale

[stark raft]

akashi milked him and spit him out

[shy hazel]

id rather quit than lose a ship

i told u

i quit this game if i miss a ship

[steep fog]

wtf

[shell heron]

I only missed one but anni have that free SSR thing so I can get her for free

[sharp wing]

pow?

[shy hazel]

[steep fog]

I still miss atago and pow

[shell heron]

yes

[sharp wing]

lol

[steep fog]

but can only choose one

[shy hazel]

ill have double avrora soon

[steep fog]

notlikethis

[shy hazel]

gotta flex that old avrora ship

[sharp wing]

Old but bold

[stark raft]

PoW

was like my earlier SSr

[sharp wing]

Well, her event was 1st

[shy hazel]

i can wait for some perma,builds

but i hte the idea

of missing a time limited ship

instaquit

[sharp wing]

I still need 4 subs...

[stark raft]

PoW my 3rd SSR BB

[shy hazel]

thats one of the reasons my pr gain is slow

i only do gold 5,cubes research

or rarely 3 cubes when everything else

is shitbad

[shell heron]

could be worse. these last few days I saw nothing by 10 cube projects

the game wants my cubes

[elder crane]

3 cubes UL or H?

[shy hazel]

h if rly no choice

theres no 3cubes ul

only 5

iirc

[elder crane]

3 cubes 8k gold

Gives about 5 PR bps on average randomly

[vague token]

i havent seen that one, only the 5 cube one

[shy hazel]

i never rmber doing one like that

at least

[steep fog]

always do UL

[vague token]

although last night i finally got the 30m gear one

[elder crane]

Well UL res cost is high

[steep fog]

theres a 8k gold 3 cubes UL

[shy hazel]

ik its common sense

but i cant do what i havent met

[shell heron]

that one's random but it's worth for the time

[elder crane]

If you don't have the res it's still

[stark raft]

if you get 2 back to back you're fucked though

[steep fog]

also for normal cube research only do the 1hr one

[elder crane]

Not enough coin or cubes for me right now

[stark raft]

16k gold

[steep fog]

best return

[shy hazel]

when i have no gold

im forced to cube comm or free comm

i alwayd select free comm

but there are times

[steep fog]

actually not sure how the 4hrs 10 cubes fare

[shy hazel]

no free comm

4 cubes,comm

[stark raft]

10 cubes suck

[elder crane]

Q projects anyways are still best non-UL projects for equip print per-time-print rates

[shy hazel]

and one expensive gold comm

no choice but to take cheapeast cube comm

lol

[stark raft]

10 cubes is like 6+ BP, some shitty chips and chance for gold retro bp

[steep fog]

only 6+ bp?

[elder crane]

Yep

[shy hazel]

i absolutely hate doing clear xx maps too

[shell heron]

the 10 cube one looks like the same rewards as the 0.5hr H project
but cost 10 cubes

[shy hazel]

its a pain to do

[steep fog]

the 4hrs clear w12 3 times is ok

[elder crane]

And also takes 4H

Clear w11/12 is pretty good, yeah

[vague token]

the ch12 clear one is the best one cause 3 clears isnt that long

xD

compared to like

5 clears of a lower chapter

which takes forever

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

ch11 mostly the same

[steep fog]

so u all got choukai already?

[elder crane]

Though most of us probs have nothing to farm there anymore

[vague token]

lol no

[shy hazel]

after i build all prs i dont touch w12 yet

[elder crane]

About 150 runs so far

With no choukai in sight

[shell heron]

expecting me to work on ch12 when there's gold I need

[shy hazel]

im not rushing or interested in the ships there

yet

[vague token]

not gonna spend oil there when we dont know what event is up next

;)

[shy hazel]

i farm 7-2

[stark raft]

7-2 forever

[elder crane]

Well I don't have much motivation to play

So oil isn't an issue

[shell heron]

7-2 is our home and will always be

[elder crane]

Plus it's just ~1k oil for 3 clears

[shy hazel]

collect gold and retreat

rinse and repeat

[vague token]

i wish they added a new gold farm spot

in later chapter

more difficulty more reward kinda concept

[elder crane]

7-2 was a mistake

[shy hazel]

nithing will still beat 7-2

[vague token]

i mean, you can beat 7-2

[elder crane]

Which means, yeah....

[vague token]

you just have to make the gold ratio to oil

[shy hazel]

u can use lb2 ships and just auto

[vague token]

higher than it

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

like thousands of gold per ?

but you need to run big fleets

[shy hazel]

higher world means less auto

[vague token]

kinda thing

[sharp wing]

never farmed 7-2

[vague token]

well yeah

risk vs reward

that's ok

7-2 for lazy

[shy hazel]

not for me

i dont have time to manual

no tt

[stark raft]

make 3 star cargo drop more gold in higher world

[vague token]

theoretical hard chapter gold for paying attention

[shy hazel]

no ty

[elder crane]

Again, 7-2 rate I'm pretty sure is a mistake

So devs won't really be doing that again

[vague token]

does gold drop even increase based on chapter?

[shy hazel]

even the boss drop bp is good

[vague token]

like is there a formula?

[shy hazel]

then u drop alot of purple,cv

[elder crane]

Yes on gold afaik

[shy hazel]

for medals

decent xp

7-2 has it all

[vague token]

it must be like

[elder crane]

No formula known afaik

Probs just hardcoded into game as usual

[vague token]

eww

no wonder 7-2 is such an anomaly

[shell heron]

gold, good AA gun, decent exp, easy map. sure why not

[elder crane]

Oh that's the ? nodes

[shy hazel]

i farmed all 6 prs in 7~2

[vague token]

yeah i meant the ?

[shy hazel]

cay u forgot

[elder crane]

gold from fights in 7-2 is nothing special

[shy hazel]

good medal source

oil efficient

[vague token]

the gold from fights is like

pennies

in all chapters

[elder crane]

Having so many ? I'm pretty sure is a dev oversight

[shell heron]

I stop counting my medals after 1000. It never stops growing

[vague token]

i dunno why there are even treasure fleets

[shy hazel]

if only iris,event d2 had alot of ? nodes

[elder crane]

Later chapters have 1 at most
And the most recent have none

[vague token]

they barely increase your rewards

[shy hazel]

it would be perfect

[elder crane]

Well it's for boxes instead of ships

[vague token]

only good thing about treasure fleet is it doesnt really shoot back xD

[elder crane]

With a chance of gold box too

[shy hazel]

cargoes give so few anyways

[vague token]

id rather have cargo give me like

[shy hazel]

80~150gold?

[vague token]

100 gold per chapter or w/e

or maybe better scaling

[shy hazel]

i mean your treasure ships

[vague token]

slow exponential maybe

[shy hazel]

technically correct term is cargo

[vague token]

i think it's transport

[elder crane]

Pretty sure coin is one of the designed F2P limitations

[vague token]

yeah, but then 7-2

like

if cargo ships in ch13

dropped like 1300 gold

that'd be cool

[elder crane]

Which is why 7-2 is mistake

[vague token]

and that's just 100 per chapter

obviously 100 per chapter is too high

for lower ones

[shy hazel]

hab u seen famines bps inventory

[elder crane]

AL devs are nice in that they don't fix errors in the player's favour, usually

[shy hazel]

his gold ufo aa gun

[vague token]

yeah

[shy hazel]

got like 800 pcs bp

[vague token]

i just want to see big money in chapter 14 or something

like

HUGE money

like make that oil to gold ratio big

to go with the difficulty

or EX farming chapter

xD

[elder crane]

On that note I think I've asked already, but does anyone here have a lv70+ 0lb z36?

[vague token]

o.O

70+?

bug?

[elder crane]

I didn't take advantage of that bug :/