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Lmao, Just3c
huh
tbh barrages did most part of damage to boss
and chaining oxygem by swapping subs is just a cheat
u47 most thicc 



tfw my farming is just doing sos
yea i do dat
and get exp
but sometimes i forget lul
it is very effective
20 lvls in 10 mins
for my sub 10 subs
tbh just dorming them better idea
Sub flag should have flagship exp bonus
they can't mvp or bonus exp or anything
maybe i shud fill da dorm with water 
yeap
let emile drown
i got lucky
And not what i wanted
yeah, i want 168 for sub missions
she has perfect balance of high hp and high torp
after i-19
which i already got
gonna do like surc 19 168
Well, actually all Is can work
yea its uboats dat hav problems
u pretty much cant make mistakes if u plan to uboat on weekly
Yeah, i run 2 uboat
2 depth charge = ded
well, was not a problem to avoid those
the thing is i 19 25 26 168 also have highest Eva, lol
lul
and that eva helps too
guess uboat is just glass cannon
i just toolbox oxy
first time boiler is useful other than pvp
oh boi
I cannot even get + atm, even if ppl push
Only like top 30 can give me +1 at rank ~500
yea i dont bother waiting anymore its kinda pointless
wats his fleet look like
Goodbye sandbag


i shall only sandbag till 1st saturday 
ytd i cudnt even complete my runs without refreshing or get -1
lmao
That usual thing for me, when i want to go to bed early and can't do my tix cause +9s
time to change reset times to fit ur timezones
might actually help with da sandbag problem tbh
Dax would say stop saying sandy pvp is ded 
then if u miss the rushers its ggwp
xd
yea or dat
so in the end PvP requires luck 
has always been
Noice
even if iris was still going id probably finish that staag before getting 2nd gun
;)

rip
why do people suggest using DD HE main guns on Juneau?
as opposed to belgun
does the 127 actually do more damage than the belgun?
dd guns do more damage than belgun over time
belgun is just so slow
and the shots go everywhere
gotcha
but to be fair there arent many cls that can use DD guns
atlanta class and sirius
are basically the 4

basically, if the cl is a dedicated AA boat, there's a high chance they can use dd guns
you know leipzig would be good with a dd gun i bet
Hey, is this fleet worth leveling up for pvp?
What should i change then
if you dont have access to duke of york or king george v, probably not much
then probably kgv over hood, but put kgv center i think
hopefully you're building monarch
from research
Yeeeee....
Well i just
Started to think about building anything
I almost unlocked st louis
then yeah, if you're going to dedicate to HMS in pvp you'll want monarch
but if you're almost done with another
finish them first
for starters, put Hood in the middle and not QE 
im pretty sure hood following up warspite is better atm
My advice is to yeet QE and use KGV instead
But somebody with mathing abilities could probly pull a % out of the butt and go "ACTUALLY,,, using QE will give you a total of 3% more damage over shorter battles
"
But also yeah definitely put your barrage bote in the center, qe doesnt need flag

i dont rly get it lately
seems like most battles i do are fairly easy
but ppl here,complain on something
must be because u using sara


na, it's more like saint louis dies faster vs cls because big seven procs ;)
there we go, didnt get big sevened 3 times
ez

is your louis even dev30
well its not like dev30 helps
ive fought off alot of dev30 louis alrdy and its the same results
traditional teams survive longer
bel jun nanoda
Part of me wished I used my event bps on neptune instead. She's like a bel
But tankier
Something to test on 
na, the problem is aurora fleets for me
because every time big seven triggers
a lot
went against famine
ez pz
yeah if aurora vg blows up your vg
im at +24 speed
no idea where id put another boiler for 32 lol
dont think it's possible
plus i dont think boilers have ever saved me from big seven, vg always moves center and catches the wedge
xD

aurora only debuffs cl and dd does she
dont rly know how she has anything to do with louis
it makes the entire vg die at the same time
no aurora you can usually buffer 1 big seven at the start
and then juneau back in
and sanrui covers ykk
but when aurora is in, vg dies all simultaneously unless you move out of everything
which means you lose to hiryuu
sara requires that vgs stick around for a while to build damage over the course of the match
by flaunting one of the highest hp : evade ratios a carrier can get
and a skill that obviously prefers long fights
even with beaver/rwg she can still mvp pretty easily if the fight goes long enough
course sometimes vg watches the matrix and you clutch evade everything and it's fine
xD
oh and aurora forces juneau to pop too early
forgot that
why must you hate me 
memers begone

im thinking of something non pvp related
kms rn with new subs 101
has wolfpack buff
in theory u can push their eva and reload to 45%
thinking if its better to build kms subfleet or ijn
Only 6 
which one do you like the skins for more?
;)
when in doubt think about waifu power


That i168 skin though 
u-portland has that neat skill that lets you call in subs outside of the range


I want i-13 to see how much dmg I can stack in one go 
i feel like ijn subs having slow torpedos
just makes them better
big damage
12% torp damage vs wolf pack which is 18% torp
i168 gets auto crit barrage
the difference also lies in survivability
in addition to her normal one
u stack 45% eva
or 50% more hp
for some reason
ijn ships has way higher hp and stats
in general
i guess u47 (we dont have) has that 40% torp damage booster
u-81 does give self evade
and a flood
so it's basically only a small evade amount for most of the u boats
but u81 gets super evade buff
u47 is selfish tho
but rip self only
ijn is better solo yeah
i19 skill barrage pierces lol
until they release better uss subs
yeah
oh huh
i25 gets a reload and accuracy debuff barrage
oh and her gun
that's neat
right now i would personally just do i-168, i-19, and surcouf
wait, Dace has a skill that does bonus damage to Large Cruisers?
are there even any large cruisers in pve?
?_?
some generic ships
historically uss has the most kills
in tonnage
solo subs
but well
prolly still far
the two eagle subs that exist are pretty
eh
unless they have like a crazy barrage
i suppose albacore at least inflicts burning
with her 2nd barrage
but dace is pretty much filler
so yeah, ijn master fleet

Allright, 15C dev 30 now outdamages kgv most of the time. Back to the kitchen, woman 
Dev 30 Monarch outdamages kgv now? 
Who does your monarch 1v1?
Hmmm I guess your KGV aint hitting early VG fires 
My Hood outdamages Monarch simply cause she's hitting hiryuu
and Monarch gets Amagi
i've been observing that a lot of maxed namayuus have some ridiculous luck on hiryuu, but amagi is just being a toilet paper
Ache has a paper Hiryuu but slippery amagi
His 30 Sanrui actually outlives his backline

once i get second white shell for ws, i'll do some testings. I was hhoping you or alex had maxed namayuus, but it seems i'll have to see for some randoms to apply
I respect that 
You can try and get Ache idk if he's geared properly though
14873
looks like someone slapped 3 rainbow torps
Well, if his saint outlives everyone else that's interesting. From other ppl here i had an impression even at dev30 saint has some problems with survivability
Yeah if he took out Jint it'd be quite annoying to fight 
My VG is stall with Nep/Jun/Nanoda anyway
KGV splattered nanoda/jint but missed on Saint
yeah, he is probably using 1 or 2 torps on yuki, 1 on jintsu and 3-4 boilers
I dont even see sanrui there lmao
azuma blows sanrui and roon out of the water with her ehp to damage spread
7.5k or w/e
base hp
no angle limit on gun
there's no competition
yeah I will get azuma 
if sanrui and roon gun had no angle limit they'd be better but not as good still
seattle for hms
What the actual fuck
triple cls lol
good luck getting all those seattle guns
do you see how many are in that fleet?
5
FIVE seattle guns
Don't know what those chinese are smoking, but it looks more like a meme
i have only 1 nepgun how the fuck do i get 5 seattle guns
I mean, without testing that chart is just being pulled straight out of ass
well the first one makes sense
the total amount of EHP on that team
is insane
because fdg
xD
I think the CN players love boilers
still 4 ijn for amagi too

boiler only defense from all the bogus
FDG with amagi buff gonna be hard to take down
maybe time to actually snipe with warspacito + monarch
i still wonder if qe would outperform kgv by buffing ws kai for 67 fp
I mean if she buffs warkai/kgv/monarch they'd get half of hood's stats

prolly just get both since hms has lots of options
Indeed, they are far from being a meme on offense, especially with ws kai
But when ppl max theirs fdg and azuma, we will see how is it going
Also, with azuma being everywhere jintsu based vang may become more valid
gonna be a while anyway since both are DR 
If she can crit that bitch for more than half of her health with opening torps
something like jin ibuki and yuki
like you risk getting dunked by big seven with that
Well, it's a double edged sword
what if azuma/fdg farm was the real PvP they wanted
Meh. Personally i expect some cv changes. And possibly new uss fleet in pvp
With georgia
people still rely on on rng torp frontline

while using jun bel requires almost no rng with good results
the time jintsu was meta was when killing frontline means winning
its a little bit different now with u facing two bbs who has a chnce to wipe u the nearer u get
big seven will kill u if u come too near
thats like saying you die if you are killed 
i mean
if nagato big seven didnt murder vgs directly in front of her
it'd be fine xD
but that'll never get nerfed so rip
if only mid was targetable by warspite
would be great
well
in the first place if u fighting over beljunykkz
its almost impossible to do fast,vg wipes than old meta
it can happen but prolly 3% chnce
ofc that requires u jintsu aurora with one more torp ship
even if your torps hit ykkz negate torps to 1 dmg anyways

the most effective attack to kill ykkz
is big seven proc or just any barrage i guess

felt like beaver + rudder amagi
backline rudder 
Rudder on flag ofc
And basically every CV now too
if you dont evade stack your hiryuu you get dunked by amagi too fast
CVs just not tanky enough even in a "safe" spot
You risk random deletion otherwise
Well, you still risk random deletion, just a good deal less chance of it
not even maxed
should be 13.9 but acceptable i guess
well she out dmged KGV 
Huh interesting
I placed my hiryuu opposite HLV's Monarch on offense, and out of like 10 runs she proced with 2 barrages once 
My Hiryuu didn't even proc half the time period
Oh I mean Hiryuu skill
yeah which means monarch was whiffing everything
As in Monarch barraged twice but still can't proc Hiryuu
Well tbf a few times match ended without a second Monarch proc
But still 
"Hiryuu slayer" my ass
Lol
Also Hood didn't really do much better from what I've faced
Or more like basically HMS def is very meme
yea
its a miracle hms can even fight namaryuus on offense 

*25% iirc
Yeah offense takes 80% of def which means def takes 125% relative to offense
HMS has good AA so hiryuu isnt a threat, as well as 2 medium armor 
Well not actually good AA, just not terrible AA
Decent aa thats good against one cv
IJN AA is abysmal
Well it's good AA compared to namayuu 
Now Eagle AA, that's good AA
Washi and sodak
aa doesnt mean anything against ryuusei anyways
literally laughs at CV damage
Erm Avi dred still a thing
there was the time
ryuusei isnt the prob it's touchdown that hurt
when jun procs vs,foxes
But uss bbs barely do damage
i never have problems with touchdown
foxes planes all die
WaSD takes like 70% of the aviation damage of IJN
it's literally just big seven puts you into ryuusei kill threshold
i fought Tatsuya once
(and amagi barrage)

Well on offense a single Ryuu Hiryuu nuke can take half of Nagato's HP
Which is not insignificant
i mean it's all about the pressure from guns put you into death range
if there was more dueling cuda would be better
but amagi and nagato just blast damage all over
so it gets you get easy finishers with ryuusei after vg
Oh nice 200 gems
push a mobile game over its limits
Cuda damage is just too spread to be impactful unless you have a lot of avi dmg
yeah
to be fair, anything that is not namagi is a meme
lets face it
ppl using hiryu for invul
and kamikaze
the dmg itself by bombs and cuda is a joke

look, at least my choices are for their tool kits
just because nagato stats and barrage brute force the entire game
doesnt mean i dont have the right idea
;)))))
imma swap to essex when she shows up
ofc lolicons will favor lolis 
i was free ytd

i guess im still playing this game
remember this
if i miss one time limited ship then its quittinng time
i spent 4000 gems on jeanbart last event

๐
Since current limited ends on Tuesday 23rd, i expect next limited on thursday 25th 
And we have enough time to run 2 weeks event before anniv
no rest for the weebs
servers started on 16th
I could care less for the next EVENT im totally depleted... Oil/Coin/Gem/Cube wise.
I only got 2 new subs so far


motivation
and my financial resources went to HI3rd
saving up gems for the cyberangel 
sadly EVERYTHING

reset and ded list lul rip
unfortunately I'm still in this season and will be out the next one
im just ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ

but you said last time you where out coming season which is this season but you're here

ahh
that one will definitely hit next reset
at the most dangerous time
last,day of reset
unfortunately i dont possess knowledge of who pushes and when
and if u dont sandbag on last part of the rounds
so im just gonna wait an hour and hope this guy moves up
sure
and u get to know when to sandbag

i have a feeling im top 10 this season again
unless accidents happen
i live in GMT+8 time so i have to go 0/10 before sleeping thru 2 refreshes
yeah I could when i was in California
now im in an asian region
cant wake up before it refreshes at noon and evening
though i do wake up before the midnight refresh, i go down to 5/10 before that happens
1460 10/10 did i sleep on a reset 
another player in sea ic
sea huh
i believe
ether and hooloo
are from sea
and they can sandbag
sumire too

well theres no doubt u can but u either hav to wake up in the middle of the night, or get extremely tight timings when u decide to rush when u wake up in the morning
basically needs dedication
i dont think na is much better timezone than eu or asia
na would mean
u stay up very late for the very last season end reset
2am 
EU would mean u need to stay up all night and morning for EoS 
cause GMT is +8 server time
And if you have work in the morning you are totally screwd

So i usually pass on last reset
just do 0/10 unless u wanna 
I already did yesterday 2 +9s
cause i wanted to sleep badly
And i would sleep through reset 100%
can't do 10/10 > 5/10 on sandy without +9s unless end of reset


I got +12 this reset tho
so i evened out to +0 reset
But i already slept throught 2-3 tix

And i have no internet at home since yesterday midday...
fcking lazy ISP won't fix anything on Sunday
nothing an
to their office cant solve
Well, i came very early to my office today, it's all to myself atm. Chilling out and playing 
abusing servers
funny how i can perfectly sandbag at work then i always miss a charge when im at home
too many distractions



The only problem being alone in office is that no1 to ask make something to eat 

But true sandbagger will starve, freeze, be deprived of sleep, but never stop sandbaging 
owo the guy in my list pushed to top 10
kek
11 pt gain
welp, time to wait again
https://trello.com/c/rMQwaqQC/976-monarch-only-has-2-auxiliary-gun-base-after-limit-break
love how a bug goes un notice even after 1 year of playing
goes to show how "useless" Monarch is?
User Info: 201915278
System Info: ipad
Frequency: Guaranteed. It always happens no matter what
Perceived Severity: Critical issue that impedes player progress but for which a workaround does NOT exist (e.g., the game always crashes during a particular mission)...
1
iOS, High
what can we do
they dont even know their own code
potato devs

spaghetti too bloody
you would expect ppl to notice these kind of thing
which no 1 fucking did after 1 year
hence why she is so "useless"

now wonder if they going to fix this shit
Aww shit
since CN bias
no no no
monarch was still the opiest pr1 ship in jp
she isnt technically useless lol
"USELESS"

means
theyll need to buff her
or devs will give the great excuse
oh sorry she was just meant to have mg2
or theyll just plainly ignore the report
i am more interest in whether they going to fix her or not tbh

since i doubt no one in CN or JP going to report or care since PR 2 is better
$5 say they pass it off
ender even said its the same in CN and JP
so unless they make a stink about it
eh its just aux gun
better just make a new monarch skin 
the problem is
they didnt recognize that the character is bugged
for a year and a half already
for jp cn

not like they going to notice how a "useless" ship is more "useless"
happens in a lot of games tbh
maybe im just so used to this shitfest 


i used mine on sanrui just to see how good she is with amagi + foxes
sub back to sirius after 1 day


Sanrui feels underwhelming for me too
good for tanking / your back line are doing the heavy lifting like WS kai
not really goodish for foxes
for me at least
I'll go for Ibuki anyway

farming her is fucking torture
lol, i've been using Atago-thot for chip comms lvl 100 ship req since they released and she just now got to 101 from that, lmao
mine is 114 cause I've been using her in w12
gonna 120 her for all the hard carrying she's done just like my erebus 
also i notice how ships with lowish luck suffer in survivability in pve
they shud make it such dat ships perma die if u dont feed them while theyre in dorm 

they yeet own clothes 1st
before starving to death
what if they yeet... each other 

queue "law of nature" song
the real hunger games
Hey, so i heard monarch was having aux +1 all the time instead of 2?
balans

Will fix even affect her performance in pvp, she is being on side all the time
technically u will be able to hit more vg
with another mg
like killing pesky nanodas
but well
its hms so

no more daxam no more hms heavy defenders
who will inherit the title of Hms Defender

But if max fate simulation does fix that i guess they might leave it as it is
we have fate sim
I know, but damn, thatโs another 160+ bps
Well, it seems now you may say besides +5 luck and 3% of heal it also does give aux upgrade 
+15 luck, not +5
and it's an indirect up to aux in PvP since aux only hits VG and, due to their high evarate, luck matters more when trying to hit VG vs trying to hit main
15 luck vs ykkz is ~5% more damage
15 luck vs main fleet is at best ~3% more damage
oh you mean Monarch's secondary bug, nvm
no idea about that
Ye, itโs for monarch. And by +5 lck i meant stage 5
first time i get to 0/10 without needing to refresh cuz rng
I even had to do 2 +9s yesterday 10/10>5/10, cause i wanted to sleep and would sleep through reset, and it was only 2 hrs after reset
Doing 0/10 
Oof
oof
Heyy why am i rank 0 and cant go up?
oh that just means how much seasonal score until rank up
but the thing is
you need to be under a certain rank
for the title to change
yeah because your ladder position isnt high enough
rank title is both ladder position and the seasonal points
Ring subs 

aux gun on torpedo cls/cas is fixed right?
cause kms has a bunch of ap rounds
for their aux gun
xD
250ish but idk
so i dont rly care if she is implemented
Hms have the best thighs 
tho i wanna spam special mainly for ssr subs
Looks like i slept through another reset 
Feels good already, relax week
๐
no bully
I especially forgot a whole reset's worth of matches day 3 into the season. It's nice to relax for a season 
I slept on a reset yesterday too 
I might do this next season too 
a break is good for you. then come back sandbagging harder than before 
Can't sandbag ded list
gotta know when to refresh that list 
Gota know when to quit pvp 
u can actually
honestly if they added guild wars id quit pvp
xD
power of friendship and comradery or w/e
more so it feels wrong to not do it after tasting consistent EoS top 10
@vague token I'll take note of that since you're one of my beloved Hamman conspirator
after few season top 10 it gets boring
you're funny
It makes me cringe when I read that power of friendship thing. But also make me laugh when I think about it coz Bluerendar is in the guild 
Most of the time I can afk the match. or RNG hates me and I get screwed by Namabaga
options get worse as time goes by
xD
meanwhile here i am using biscuit/amagi/sara
and stella always bullies me
=(

maybe its time to just call it quit lel
lol
if we get pr2 and nothing changes
ill probably just rush life
because azuma/fdg is the end game
when all options get thanosed

seppuku is the way

when pr 2 comes VG fixed at azuma ykk jesus

Azuma doesn't belong to VG 
main is fdg ws kai and amagi
i forgot when was the last time
amagi might be flex for something else
i wasnt in top 10
but most comp would use amagi

I could have denied you last season 
you failed yourself hey 












