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rather invest in hms as early as now
ws kai comes hms becomes more legit
even with qe meme
while foxes is soon to be
subpar at hiryuu sisters kai release
foxes hood is okay short term tho tbh
youll be wasting time trying to 120 them tho
hms might sound beginner friendly but not really
sandy kai comes first before warsprite kai is it
you need like 4-5 SG radars and max everything to even dream at competing with namagis
Also does sandbagging matter for rank

Because I’ve been sandbagging
ofc it matters

sandbagging doesnt matter if u lose even one round tbo
u need a decent fleet first
And I didn’t have the fleet or cubes to get Nugget
What’s ykkz
yukikaze
but well ye
aka cockroach
ykkz is just too good
bbs wont bither backline until ykkz dies
yuki is good but HMS needs jun cause any competent HMS will proc hiryuu early
well you want both jun and ykkz anyways but atleast one of them should be good enough if you really want to use some other VG
bel/sheff/aurora/nep are all legit choices for hms
That’s depressing
most viable hms arent from limited gacha
I kinda wanted to see if I could create something out of Essex once those drop
Essex Enty Sara? 
Essex-CV teams weren't great even before Amagi
They were usable at best
because of foxes infestation
if u want ijn current meta
u need 3 reruns

amagi nagato vdir reruns
vdir has no rerun left
theyll be in perma pool maybe in 6 months
Considering we will never see anything CN doesn’t see, and they still have IJN meta IIRC that means I might as well never bother?
At this point?
some ppl who use hms in jp
almost has same winrate
as ijn comps
well
with mixed frontline tho
i always forget the name of pr cb
my wife
oh
Azuma
thats how u read her name in chinese
literally
1 letter away from becoming a king of fighter character
So what does defense fleet do then, if sandbagging actually matters
nagato going to be replace soonish
hiryuu + foxes is actually a legit comp at lv 110
you dont sandbag with def fleet
not sure now at 120
But why
def fleet is just there to wall off newbies and annoy "veterans"
the point of sangbagging is to LET your opponent gain more point so that you can attack them to gain more point for yourself
I've sunk the entire IJN like a dozen times in HOI4 and they've come to meme me in a mobile game 
using a def fleet to wall them off defeat the purpose
Was Yuki limited time too
yep
Hurg
YKK is a tough one
Of the frontrow meta I only have Bel and Jun 
since even in JP CN they haven't make her available
i think def fleets do matter when it's last 10 mins before reset
just build neptune np
def is only there to stall the other person longer
torp memeing may actually fuck someone up who will use his last matches at the very end
lusty enty eldridge stall Rip 
but most sandbaggers normally can beat it within a minute or 2

def only matter if you are like those noob try hard in here (never get rank 1)
if you only in it for aotn don't bother with def fleet
stalled into next season 
stall all the way to this chat room

def fleet is for showing off waifus 
just to complain about it
aotn?
big merits
once you get to top 10 and have a 2200 min score
So, is meta expected to shift away from stuff I can't get then
top 10 is easy
stella on my list 
reset, he is a sandbagger 
my list is dead
I'll take that as a no
@wide stratus just wait for warspite kai 
i sent stella some fish sauces so he own me a favor

WSkai still uses ykkz 
build your other botes for now
i dont like salty stuff
i threw it back in the ocean
well he can use nep aurora jun
such betrayal

or maybe sub in bel/sheff somewhere
But yeah it's nice that the current best F2P (imo) of HMS transitions nicely to WSkai
Nep Sheff Jun
hey it has a qr code at the bottom for a winning 6 digit combination lotto
thats why more reason to build hms
ijn is the best but hms is the closest
alternative
we can call hms
the side bitch
of pvp
also there's a meme strat on Nep
iirc it's rudder+blue torpbulge, to get her under Sheff buff

It's what's needed to get her HP below Sheff's
blue bulge, and can't even +6 it iirc
and then ofc +1000 HP total aux on Sheff
Sheff buff supposedly makes up for it and more
it's pretty questionable overall though imo, for obvious reasons
So basically, just build HMS stuff, and pray whatever new vanguard boats are decent?
iirc purple bulge base HP is already too high
Because I missed the current meta stuff
that is, sheff maxed HP+1000 is only a teeny bit more than Nep's maxed HP base
and you can just barely squeeze in a blue torpbulge
honestly I can't even be competitve anyway
more like build any decent hms botes and wait for ws kai for salvation 
Well limited equip isn't too important overall
I'll have the beaver badge
except for badge
once I get off my butt and level the beavers
Pearls tear will have to wait
until I get Arizona
Which hasnt happened yet
SG/SG is good enough on main fleet anyways
which means you'll need 5 SGs, but such is the life 
ohright we have shells now, that can sub in
I've never even seen shells before
there's a gold shell in core data shop
yeah I didn;t bother grinding
dont stress out about purple shells, they're just budget gear
I was busy with IRL stuff
It's in the core data shop
I'd say SG/Shell, SG/Shell, then Badge/SG for your three main fleeters, for now
dang cant help it then
unless we get Centaur soon, don't miss that hopefully
I have like
ye, she will replace qe
Well not for ppl without good HMS
It'll be QE/Centaur/Hood I think
have to agree with hoo, hms is non beginner friendly
Even so, nothing else is beginner possible
.... what is though
so uh yeah
u can go temp monarch hood qe
WS while you wait on Monarch I suppose
Hmm, setting up an easy-to-get HMS VG....
Bel for sure, Jun, and..... what 
I skipped the commons
I'd take Leander over fortune, imo
accessible
oh you have Edin, that's a better option imo
is more cl gunnery better than fortune in hms?
The reason I have so many dupes is because I've been trying to get around to LBing stuff but forget about it
Wasn't sure on that since she's not an easy ship to get for some
I feel like fortune will get deleted in the current environment
she might be okay if she doesn't
no pr boats tho
I'm still working on my first (SL) 
Well PR boats take time for the prints anyways
I don't spend a lot of time on this game
But I'm so close
Ark could be a decent option over WS, maybe, for now
but you'll want WSkai for sure once that comes
also unrelated but doesn't the lighting on her chest make her look like she has pointy breasts
because that bugs me a lot

LOL i rember sonethinf
but
in gamefeed
Belfast too no?
Isn't Juneau the most morally bankrupt thing in PvP
her only purpose being to die for your sins
technically vanguard is there to die for your main fleet
so not really
she's the just the most efficient at dying for everyone else
also plz send me your energy, i need 3 more bps

as if you to can judge with your 4 guns
he got points so he killed boss


dk can ask the guy if you want to know
but just the fact that he manage to farm 10 of them on siren alone
tell you which is worth more in the long run
just check at the event lel
sounds fair tbh
with his almost 300k with 10 guns yeh i would say he 1:1 siren
next rerun i am just going to siren like that guy

no he stated that
i left out the part where i ask him whether he siren or boss farm
just take a look at trophy
unless it is true he farm 10 gun on boss and the last 15 on siren
that's insane luck lel
average 10k per gun
do i want mle on kgv or not 🤔
yes
prolly give her nepgun 
Ye, i'm not sure. It's 10 fp, while with nep you can go full dakka dakka dakka
u can hit vg with it so much more
fuk the what now?
i made an extra hood gun a while back xD
mfw i see a ykkz with the baguette gun
cringe
whew... I almost dropped out of this season because I woke up late... Good thing I manage to rush every attacks I have in 7 mins before refresh
big oof
100mm AA, 410AP, both 381, 410Meme the ones I got enough prints for two of... 
At least the second 410AP came in handy for EX
ain't jb heavy tho?
Which is why the BBAP came in handy?
I ran 3 BB
One BBHE for fires
Two AP to smack them hard
Helena to boost them and for less strenuous playing
This EX was super easy though, it shouldn't be too difficult to literally never get hit, van or main
what's an ex?
like i have time for that
;)
12/15, less than 3 hours?
these are good odds
AP is second highest for vs heavy heh
thought it was HE

opinion on 138 for YKK?
i really don't like 100 for her since most of the time her barrage just whip
i know but HE > normal
you use 100mm for the AA bonus while still retaining barrage
ykk has no capacity for doing gun damage
does AA even matter when ppl using solo hiryuu tho?
30 aa stat out of her 161 at 120 is a significant increase
30 aa stat out of her 161 at 120 is a significant increase
30 aa stat out of her 161 at 120 is a significant increase
i could see 100 vs hiryuu kai
30 aa stat out of her 161 at 120 is a significant increase
30 aa stat out of her 161 at 120 is a significant increase
but does it really matter pre kai?
30 aa stat out of her 161 at 120 is a significant increase
so it's still an EHP boost
like you said, her barrage is sometimes silly cause of how the torpedoes are oriented
so her gun is best occupied by something with utility
100mm is the most utility you'll find in a dd gun
everything else basically doesnt matter
she is incapable of doing gun based damage
just like aya and all the other 75% eff dds
also note that for basically every gun tier, HE does more or as much damage as AP to heavy
only BB guns are the exception
dd is 60 vs 40
cl HE+ is 70 vs AP+ 70
and CA HE+ is 75 vs AP 75
although only azuma gun is HE+
so it's usually 70 vs 75
aka barely an advantage


yes you did 
Hitting 100k with D2 alone 
You dont even need that many
I'm happy I farmed out 4 extra. Anymore I'll go insane
same ^
tho i got 5 more extra bp
4 is enuf for now

got enuf for pvp
and one to pass around for pve
138 for sure
If anything 100 is the other consideration
Well it's just one on Jun for PvP
And PvE, the PRs can't run it so that's a possibility
That gets me thinking,
Once she's up, is Nep just better than Minnie for PvE mobbing?
I suppose her DpS is probably lower?
(And ofc CA vs CL for HM reqs)
minne is a different style of mobbing
since she snowballs into big deeps
she's the aggressive mobber
squishier, but faster
Ehh it's always the main fleet carrying anyways
i would say nep for safe mobbing and minne for lethal mobbing?
both can work in either tbh
like roon gun + 138 is a LOT of damage
Nah Roon gun Minnie in ch12 is about on par with PvP setup Hiryuu (with Nagato buff)
Which is... lol
Ofc more stable, but still lol
Biggest diff with them is huge AA gap and Nep has torps 
how bad is nep AA?
Nep has pretty ridiculous AA
Wdym Nep has godly aa
Minnie AA is no slouch though
384 on 200 Aff
so is minne who's bad?
Especially since her eff is 125
That means AA damage is about the same on the two
Nep just has more Aviation damage dred
+45 from AA gun means Minnie is ~2% behind on AA damage
And if any other AA bonuses Minnie pulls ahead
Both have enough DpS to not be much issue
Plus better angles on CL gun
If anything Minnie has more issue with her setup solo

In terms of cleaning mobs up before/as they start ramming her
minne just really needed a good barrage
but like most CAs
it's garbo
it's like one of those ultra basic shoot a wedge in front of you that does no damage compared to using a gun xD
I think Minnie still does more output than Nep overall
But idk if that's useful enough generally
Main fleet is your dmg carry anyways for mobbing
Yeah both can kill the first few waves so main mobs spawn in time for backline dmg
So, chalk one up for "not needing 138"
maybe nepgun gets more dmg from being AP+ 
minne is cuter in her school outfit tho
Cuter than NepNep?
I used wichita for mobbing in D2
nepgun gets more damage on light
ofc
was fast af
compared to roon gun obviously
sirius > nep
less on heavy and medium but that makes sense
nep is just an inferior maid all around
still need 20% more for roon 2m exp
nepnep has a trident though

"Unlike the other girls, this is my "maiden voyage" onto the battlefield. I wish to confirm for myself what this oft-touted "difference in experience" looks like."

NepNep is NepNep though
grinding roon is fking slow
Yeah, it'll be my last one and I'm not looking forwards to it
Last cause I won't be really able to KMS for a while

Choukai is next up
My planned farm schedule doesn't match up :P
I think i slept through some tickets again 
I'll probs do Izumo then start on Roon
And finish up Ibuki last
ok question on whether i should oathed the adopted dog or not?
oathed every tacao
only adopted is left
Oath everyone ofc, nyaa~
Oh you oathed choukai?
any1 can tell me score of 10/10 atm?
yeh
choukai is decent enough in a torp CA comp
she is also cute
work for me
maya on the other hand tho
flat + useless
harsh

As soon as I get choukai I'll start on Roon
Hopefully that's not after all of Izumo and half of Ibuki
731 8/10 
hmm
Ohwait I did like 1/4 of Izumo
.... when did that happen... 
been on deadlist for few resets
i think i slept through few
oof
If you're like ~650 for sure you missed a few
or not...
Otherwise, might just be dead lists
I'm at 684 and missed 3 attacks
sound about right
684 10/10?
8/10
That's kinda important info 
lel
Kinda went a long with the 8/10 vibe 
751 7/10 but slow reset
So you should be at least around 700,10/10 if none missed right now
that's with like 0 sandbag
Well it's what most of the ppl who just reported are at, after adjustment 
Since it's 15 base per match right now iirc
not like it matter to me since i don't play end of ss shenanigans
Also watch as maint screws us up again
Should we be at 5/10 before maint hits?
12H maint 
6 hrs is safe zone , 10 hrs = danger zone

I wanted to farm over
night, but instead i passed out and also missed few tix
with I 56 coming and her AS skill i say w13 is almost here
Erm, maint hits at reset so at least 5/10
And 0/10 if you don't trust devs
and i think we going to get w13 in the middle of US event
We don't even have Sandy kai yet
We have a few new stuff added that could have major bugs
hence why w13 should be next on the list
which is pretty much going to be in the middle of US event
do I trust devs or eat tickets 
giving EN track record
Ehh that would be pretty rushed timing
I don't actually see it happening
Hopefully they delay a bit more
We are very far from that
I'm not prepd for air control at all
Hiryuu my only 120 CV right now
Enty and Lusty are the ones you want mostly
so i am pretty much ready
foxes aa 
Isuzu at 58 rn 
Fox Air control is.... Not really that great
something > nothing

Lusty doesn't need to be max though iirc
Guess i might drop tryharding for the 10 bps last hr, lol
Well glhf with that....
I'm try harding for 3 bps the last couple of hours but they just don't drop 
Wish I could trade my purples for gold bps
still 12/15
Well if you do 6 min clears you on average get like 2 bps/hr soooo
I said 6 min clears
even inter is taunting us in #game-news
wtf


yeh same
stop stealing our bps ;)
I'm not gonna farm any more events lol
i got around 23 bps today
last day rush work wonder
for next rerun
only got 1 extra bp for next rerun tho
2bps in 10 runs is rly lucky tho
with dat kinda rates i shud hav 2nd crafted gun by now
maybe the devs bump up the drop rate for last day rusher?
xD
meanwhile my alt is still stuck at 12/15 bp with 47k points lel
sounds legit
and pretty much 0 oil to continue
im also stuck at 12/15


Me too
ppl in #trophy-room said other wise lel
mine is first gun
It should be about 1.5 bps average for 10 runs
55k with 50 prints
(But I also did some siren farm)
ppl in trophy has 0 brains in the 1st place 
Total ~100k oil spent

50 prints in 55k wtf is that sorcery
I did like 20 prints with sirens though
lul my alt pretty much has 1/4 ur rates
I'm legit 20 at 50k
So it's more 30 prints in 55k
I mean siren-only farming
so 0 point gain during that
I still get barely any from sirens
ive probably gotten 2 from sirens
Yeah Siren rates seem mostly trash enough for boss to be worth it
rest are boss lol
Reports seems to say ~10% for boss and 2% at best for sirens
It most certainly doesn't feel like that
can only
and take it like a man
So I did about 350 clears or so, equivalent after including my siren farm (<250 oil per clear, 100k spent, but also not all spent on D2)
Which means I should've gotten around 50 prints by those rate estimates
I got 50
Seems to match up
still scary to see how much ppl farm 😮
top event scorer has like 600 more d2 runs than me lul
neet life makes wonders 
Too bad I had exams the past couple of weeks 
776 5/10 for me
oh i got same score as blue
735 8/10
765 
Lvl 1 surcouf gotta fend for herself 
level 1? o.O
780 5/10
772... i really slept through few tix
damn dat sub mission looks hard even for lvl 100+ subs

feels stupid
devs cant spend on any music artist anymore
so they find freebies
in the name of contest
compensation is 500gem

thats like 5 dollars
bet someone will sing numba wan song
not sure wat they mean by azur lane tune but 

sounds of sticky water
iirc when they dropped the anni video for CN at the Bisko stream, someone suggested that for EN vid they should do a music video with players involved in it
just like 4chan did with devil trigger from dm5
players involved with it as a thing is too narrow





I never check mine
I have 7 120
I think I still have alot
Maybe u got too many 110
Amagi Hood Dork KGV Bel QE Nanoda Jun Monarch Nep are 120 for me with like 10k chips still 
You unlocked lots to 120
I have tons more unlocked to 120 but damn you ran out of chips fast
I need gold more than chips
gambling on PR equips but still 22/25 nepgun
had 40+ useless AA gun though and 12/25 second staag
Monarch blessed me too much 
She needs like 9 bp to get 6 luck
Meanwhile nep at 27 and nepgun 22/25

I still havent dev 30 anyone at all

roon is still not 2m exp yet
same with ibuki and nep
♿
I tried spee and 2 k's for 1m
Changed to ibuki after like 30 mins 
Roon farm will be true hell
idk how I did Roon in 7 days, but Ibuki is taking forever for me
maybe is the burnout of d2
Well i never bothered with jintsuu and sendai and i got jint yesterday
Mogkai is carrying isuzu and jint for ibuki farm 
I need to get sendai to 120 too
oh Mogkai exist right
lulw
im using jint aya and ykkz
which are the only IJN VG I'd normally use
DD work for ibuki farm? Good to know 
DD doesnt work lol


phew thought i was going insane
well
there was a reason i was using fucking isuzu 
RIP oil
rip oil and time
im using prinz leip spee for roon farming
guess I'll retro Mog

These names of the people on the wall of shame 
imagine still posting the wall of shame when they clearly want attention 
It's obvious they want the attention
oh fuck server up
They finished early
gotta refresh on all these rushers in wash 
I lost already 1 ticket
Ranger does have the most dmg potential
Oof, today is fast one
Mine is 110
washboard L2D 
how to farm sub affection 



first build u101 🤔

2 week event no rush 
wonder if USS event gonna be SandyKai minievent
Since we already have limited
And then anniv limited
spent 60cubes
got all but i168
the cutest sub


I got 10 fumizuki
while rolling for kawa
did 200 d3 runs never got her
damn sub mission rekting my ass
Yeah it is hard even with gold torp and really high subs
i got a tip from reddit which is to use oxy torp and it works
it increases ur ammo count to insane lvls
still cant spam but definitely enuf to get u thru
The thing about axu torps is described in info, lol
yea but i just skipped it kek and cudnt get it to show up again
u shudnt be having problems except for surcouf
my method was to just destroy the 1st 3 cargo ships u see then just play mgs with the rest till boss
then barrage spam while dodging depth charge and u win
not sure if 2 cargo ships get u s rank but i didnt wanna risk it
i only know 1 gives u 'a' rank
you only need 2 cargo ships for S rank yea
next week it will be better for sure but it is still pretty hard ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Weekly Stage Scoring
Clearing stage: 100 Pts
Destroy 1 transport: +10 Pts
Sink 1 friendly submarine: -15 Pts
S Rank: >120 Pts
A Rank: >100 Pts
B Rank: >70 Pts
2 transports and no sunk gives you S rank
lol, 2nd hotfix
ikr wtf
Wait, where is new dorm set?
Oh it starts 15th
Hope it gives +1 

lol, 1 of hotfixes apparently was to fix new sandy emote icon
Toot!
Junie hit 120 from pvp, now full 120 fleet 
Barely got s rank for the sub mission
lul theres a hnng emote now
I brought in 1 lv80, 1 lv70, and a 0LB lv70
That goes about as well as expected: pimped out to the max yet still not enough damage to kill the boss
I wimped out and did the lv65 one instead 
at least you got subs to use. never worked on my subs 
Well they're just the Bismarck German subs I did for the frame
u556 slowly creeping up to 80 since she has the sec mission
I'm waiting for gold german sub to finish my awoo pack 
Missing Dace and I-56 for me
ah
i thought dace was starter and i pulled i 58
Oh, and forgot surcoaf
the thiccest of subs 
was the starter sub not i58?
Is Surcouf thiccer than I-19?
ofc

i-19 is loli compared to her
It so happens Surcoaf artist is same, as lewdis and lululewd 
Suzu artist is doujin artist at all 
I noticed funny thing, that lower tech lvl sub torps of sakura and eagles in same color rarity are better within same faction. Blue t1s are better, than blue t2, purple t2s are better, than t3s, lol.
KMS torps have same dps on all rarities, but lower tech torps are homing. And KMS homing torps have highest dps, lol.
Cause fck logic 
can anyone enter reddit?
it's kinda down atm

nope cant
is at least 1 month from now lel
not really
?
anniv shall start around August start
anniv is august 16 tho?
If it gonna be like 3 weeks long
eh we going to get another event before anniv
don't even know if the event is just sandy or iowa event tho 
lel she was in light
of ships in pool with no up
ez
these ships all blocked me forever
save some cubes its almost 1 month for EN anniv 
feels like the next event is made for EN
hence the "exclusive" part
which i highly fucking doubt
unless it is a collab one
the announced upcoming EN or USS event would be on EN 1st anniv , i think
1 month break between event?
you wish lel
this is EN
not JP CN
get outta here with your weak ass shit

I think next JP livestream is on 22
just do the free one lel
Serves you right 
i guess they will be giving us 1 or 2 mini event before the grand 1st anniv event
Current limited ends on Tuesday for a reason 
but i highly doubt it going to be iowa
3 build heavy event back to back
most likely going to be sandy
well y not both
Sandy is just filler
3 BUILDS HEAVY EVENT back to back
It will run alongside some bigger event
you want to kill your player base?
welp guess EN going to die then
other servers are worried for en too lol
double limited what now?
3 in a row is EZ
the loli?
they complaints feels rather silent too. likely due to rhodes island next door attracting all the attention
imagine if devs implement this on EN 1st anniv
90% less all resources expend
oil / coins / gems / no cubes needed for build 
most likely december for AK tho
going to play AK as side game
rate is on par with FGO
Al already a side game 
If not for pvp, i'd only login to do dailies once a day outside of events

almost all the pvp game out there have better pvp system than AL
Yukikaze everywhere 
only reason why you even pvp in here is cus you are a casual
how kill this ?
not willing to whale it up
Well, if en dies it’s for the better. Not like it’s worth saving anyway with current localization team

But i wonder if ppl will move to ak
people are speaking for themselves
if you want story go play gfl
if you want pvp go play gbf
if you want a casual game that you can leave it on auto over night play AL
It’s a heavy gacha
ofc its not okay for en to close
the only thing good about AL is that it is casual friendly

at least gfl is playable
the gacha is garbage

everything else is good
story = theres eroges 
Fgo indeed is an utter shit
stamina system = burn in hell
be like in gbf







