pvp

[elder crane]

Wait that was what I was asking earlier
How does skills and the equip interact with the "buckets" you saw?

Oh misread
So WS skill not completely wasted on twins

Twins still hard miss a not-insignificant fraction of the time normally

[finite valve]

what i want to know from data mining is "does drop rate exist in there?"
which let face it they are going to be server side

[red nexus]

Can't you just take impact area and flight duration?

But if you wanna write a simulator

What do you care about how it looks like

[elder crane]

That's probably better even
Makes hit locs more visible

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

I wonder if that 10 start is salvageable now with enough sandbagging.

because a 2589 top ten is a pretty low min last season

also dreamed of lusty/eld stalling my again

[steep fog]

just run nepgun

[shell heron]

I would imagine her AP shell buff makes her gun damage respectable

and nepgun

[modern tree]

If the barrage reaches backline then it's probably worth spamming it, but 150 single is unlikely to push more than 1-2 in the entire pvp match and you dunk your entire gun damage for it. Nepgun is plenty fast

Also the fp bonus

[elder crane]

Also whyyyy do people keep thinking single 150 fires more than twice as fast
It doesn't!
Time between shots on 120 dev30 Nep with single 150 is 1.57 s
Tbtsk is 2.96s
Nepgun is 2.74 s

Remember, time between shots = reload time (after reload stat adjustment) + gun CD (0.28s for CL guns) + volley time

yep but it still eats the 0.28 s

yep
but idk how that works fully

[red nexus]

157 [150]
296 [300]

[elder crane]

plus it's the same for every gun I say

[red nexus]

Single fires twice as fast as tbsk

[elder crane]

well it's not "more than twice as fast"\

afaik yes
but idk fully how it works, cause:

bullet range + offset = targeting for most guns

but you can still clearly see ingame cases where guns target but don't hit on stationary targets from a stationary VG

velocity I might be able to help with
battle constants has a "shell speed scaling factor"
Shell velocity is squared from the ammo speed stat
idk how the full formula fits it all together though

basically all "movement velocity" stats are calculated from the square of the relevant speed stat

gimme a sec

lines 246-277 in battleformulas.lua

23,28,33 reference the loaded in "speed conversion constants"

loaded from
ys.Battle.BattleConfig
ys.Battle.BattleConfig.BulletSpeedConvertConst = 0.1
ys.Battle.BattleConfig.ShipSpeedConvertConst = 0.01
ys.Battle.BattleConfig.AircraftSpeedConvertConst = 0.01

lines 77-79 in battleconfig.lua

that file also has a lot of interesting variables

iirc I found another set of "scaling" constants that might affect these numbers

but I could never figure out how it all played in together

can't remember where though

I haven't tried actually making formulae and seeing if they match up with in-game testing

so can't really say much more

reading the code hurts my brain too much

[vague token]

owo

[vague token]

dear god i cannot find another quad for kgv when i actually want one

=(

[sharp wing]

spam those royal bawxes

[vague token]

im trying!

[sharp wing]

meme

inflating fleet power

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

reason why i always at least save around 2 to 3 of each gear

[sharp wing]

Saved extra gold 406 as well, tho only need 1 for Mass

who knows

[finite valve]

yeh got 2 of them and 6 quad

[sharp wing]

You can never be too prepared

And there always enough idle boats to hoard them

so no inventory taken

[shell heron]

I save all my gold gear in case I need them

let cranes be used on everyone please so my 17 cranes are not useless

[sharp wing]

I would like to see more BBs with specialized ammo, like Mass
Inb4 Sanshikidan shells skill

Imagine kirishima barrage, but as shell skill

Phoe dev 30 headnod

[shell heron]

convert all shells to sanskikidan shells

that's a lot of confetti

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

you know, then it might actually hit the VGs

[sharp wing]

"might"

triple guns w/ Sanshikidan shells

quad for memes

[shell heron]

look at those numbers 12x10x4

all that possible damage

[sharp wing]

smokeconfettiscreen

Shiranui troll

[coral wren]

Lobby has been ded for 12 hours straight, what is going on

spent all resets already

[sharp wing]

i only fished for 1st rushers after 1st reset

those early 130s

after that it's ded

and i get matched with some low rank newbies half the time

half of them don't even pvp or get walled something

[coral wren]

Exactly

[shell heron]

Oh I forgot to switch out my Namayuu fleet.

Was prob walling some casuals hard

[sharp wing]

[modern tree]

I hope casuals appreciate their free wins : )

I have 4 oxy torps, contemplaiting 5

[shell heron]

time to break out my "immortal" def fleet again

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

I see 3 ships that stalled me from top 10 last night

[sharp wing]

I tried

zapping intensifies

[shell heron]

losing a match, I'm okay with

[sharp wing]

fast and savage lusty

[shell heron]

being stalled out of gensui and hitting me on the next season too

[coral wren]

Hm, 0 rushers so far

What an interesting start

[wicked rivet]

Is this weak enough or should i fuck with my vg more

[sharp wing]

nanoda too stronk

[wicked rivet]

shiet probly

altho dev29 buki might also be a monster

[sharp wing]

buki is real monster

[shell heron]

gonna delete some casual's VG

[wicked rivet]

god I cant wait

she deletes most non-casual vg's too

[sharp wing]

she is really fierce

I fought her on def fleet few times

paired w/ Aurora she easily delete vg

[wicked rivet]

I'd use aurora but she's only level 103ish and idc that much to level her

maybe eventually but I've been using bel/nanoda/buki

[sharp wing]

Jin Buki will work fine too

[wicked rivet]

jintsuu hasnt come home

i got sendai but her torp boost doesnt work on CAs

[sharp wing]

only Jin won't buff CA

[wicked rivet]

yes true

the eva buff aurora gives is probably better than a torp meme boost anyways

[trim horizon]

Im still at 10/10

[shell heron]

can you eat a +33

better to take that now before you miss everyone moving

[wicked rivet]

Tfw im getting great bonuses but I'll be gone all next week so wont be able to finish

[trim horizon]

+31

[wicked rivet]

Gotten a 29, 31, and now 32

[trim horizon]

im getting low levels peeps

[vague token]

i got 32 and 34 but i think that is all ill get xD

[trim horizon]

welp

[wicked rivet]

Get wet

[trim horizon]

I have a doubt, does Kyxapka on Sandy sandbag ?

[sharp wing]

probably

[vague token]

rip

[radiant briar]

http://imgur.com/gallery/8euOaj6

Can somone help me with completing a fleet?

[shell heron]

we have a pinned pvp tier list if you want to refer to that first

contains generally used comps and gear to use on each ship

[radiant briar]

Where can i find that pinned list?

[sharp wing]

in pins...

[shell heron]

But from what I'm seeing in your dock, you don't have many of the event limited pvp ships

[sharp wing]

or ships in general

[modern tree]

Legit your only option is unlocking Monarch, maxing her and running her along HMS

[sharp wing]

probably another hms unfortunate fellow

[shell heron]

He could run Hood/Sara/Enty + Jun/Helena/Bel if he really wants

[sharp wing]

kgv works too

[radiant briar]

Ye im new to game

[modern tree]

I mean, can try running good stuff, should be enough to at least sort of farm merits?

If you are new to the game

welcome to pvp, you missed all the events that would make yor fleet capable of contesting better stuff

[sharp wing]

hood kgv qe maybe till unlock monarch

[radiant briar]

Great :D

[modern tree]

so you should focus on rising ships you like and farm pvp with the highest level ships you have

[shell heron]

PR grind can be a side thing to work on while you level your ships

[radiant briar]

I dont have any problems with pvp so its good i guess

[shell heron]

not expecting dev30 anytime soon

[sharp wing]

lol

[radiant briar]

Pve*

[modern tree]

so if you wanna think of farming pvp, the easiest route is levels > equipment > comp

[radiant briar]

Ok, thanks for now ill be back

[modern tree]

rising pvp only ships is a luxury

[shell heron]

"looks at Juneau"

[sharp wing]

[modern tree]

from your dock you should probably keep using barrage boats and maybe start investing a bit in Juneau if you like pvp

[sharp wing]

well hms backline is not pvp only

[shell heron]

Juneau is a great investment. She will not be going anywhere soon

[sharp wing]

farming Junea in early game gonna be fine

[modern tree]

Monarch is PR and its a pain in the ass, rising Warspite is a luxury, Hood is fine but she's "okay" at best if you have HFCR which he doesnt

[sharp wing]

qe hood kgv

both pvp and pve

[shell heron]

If he wants to be able to play pvp, just having leveled good ships is fine

fighting for top 10 is another story

[modern tree]

ye, again levels > equipment > comp

[sharp wing]

at least top 1k

gotta rank up for merits too

[shell heron]

top 600 was possible with no sandbagging, but that's really early in the game

now we have a meta and 120

[sharp wing]

depends what server

[shell heron]

wash or sandy might be fine

[sharp wing]

more than fine i'd say

[modern tree]

Sandy is pretty fucking serious at top 1k

[sharp wing]

If Aurora, my condolences

1k serious

[coral wren]

what have i done to deserve this

[sharp wing]

^ true story

should reroll right away

[modern tree]

If you guys stopped dropping 3+ games every season maybe you'd see decent fleets

[sharp wing]

i do top 10 w/ 3+ droped

EoS

so?

wdym

[shell heron]

I didn't drop 3+ games last season. I dropped 2 at the very end

[sharp wing]

yr point invalid 100%

"decent fleets"

[modern tree]

Go look at top 10 right now and count fleets that someone starting out can beat

please

those are rushers

this is what you will see most of the time

[sharp wing]

How we came to this?

You jumped from we missing 3+ tickets to new players

[modern tree]

It's still the same point, there are real fleets and you insist they dont exist

[wicked rivet]

This needs to be pinned tbh

[sharp wing]

who insist on what lol

there decent fleetsa top 10 or 10k

"decent fleets"

like it matters

[modern tree]

yeah fine whatever you win

here is your medal

[sharp wing]

lol

[modern tree]

Sandy runs only bulins

[sharp wing]

you imply we don't fight decent fleets

cause we miss 3 tix per season

I think ppl don't understand concept of competitiveness. It's not to have server full of 120 meta fleets

[wicked rivet]

Ill call your maxed namaryuu fleet and raise you a maxed purin/sandy/bulin fleet

[ripe veldt]

maxed purin/bulin u say

soon

[wicked rivet]

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

Noice

I put mine on ibuki cause im baka

Dont be baka

Put it on amagi

[stark raft]

21/25 on nepgun but 9/25 on 2nd rudder

[sharp wing]

I like Bakas

[stark raft]

Fuck me i want nepguns

[sharp wing]

No, ty

[wicked rivet]

20/25 for second rudder, 14/25 for second staag, 14/15 for third SG

Im so close

[sharp wing]

2 sg?

[wicked rivet]

Not like I could do much with a third other than throw it on another BB that i wont use for pvp tho

Unless I wanna double SG dork but meh

Wait nvm i have RWG on amagi so thats what it'll replace

[sharp wing]

I mean, i use SG in pve too, those on pvp fleet will forever rot there

and not like i will swap equips

[wicked rivet]

True

Which is why im probly gonna yeet it onto a pve bote

[sharp wing]

gladly i got 6 or so of em

2 for pve rest for pvp

or whatever

Boss fleet ambushes

[trim horizon]

[wicked rivet]

[shy hazel]

got too many

blame research trash

[shell heron]

perfect start to the season

10, 31, 31

on the bright side I can make 4 extra 138.6 guns now

Just need to find ships to put them on

[vague token]

10?

o.O

[shell heron]

yes, I didn't make it in time last season and finished my last match when next season started

[vague token]

=(

big rip

[shell heron]

double rip. I didn't get gensui and screwed me this season

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

i got 17 bps in 35k

[vague token]

im at 8 bps with 30k

help

someone save me

[ionic magnet]

heh i win 16 bps in 35k

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

oh wot

[vague token]

this is the world punishing me for biscuit/amagi/sara isnt it

i see how it is

[shell heron]

60 at 58k

[sharp wing]

wtf

[shell heron]

it was suffering doing that grind

[sharp wing]

It is suffering, when you grind and get nothing

[vague token]

i love suffering

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

im at 8k straight pts now with zero bps

[cerulean estuary]

3 more days still havent got 3rd dd gun
might as well do a fish sauce offering ritual

[vague token]

oh that sounds good

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

sacrifice a goat

or something

maybe ill get 1 gun before the end

xD

[shell heron]

blood for the blood gods

[sharp wing]

HERETIC!

[vague token]

on the flip side biscuit is 119 now

[sharp wing]

🔥

[cerulean estuary]

my meme roon is 118

[ionic magnet]

my meme qe is 118 now at least

[shell heron]

I should really use my sanrui now

dev25 should do some damage

or at least be tanky

[cerulean estuary]

qe is my favorite chibi character in azur lane u know

[sharp wing]

[cerulean estuary]

look at that moving at tiles animation and the firing salvo ( so demn cute ) not to mention the eyes also

[sharp wing]

I will never use or ring QE

[vague token]

dev 25 sanrui doesnt do damage

dev 30 shot her damage up by like

double

boosted barrage and efficiency goes a long way

dev 25 sanrui is just bigger better portland

xD

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

well I ran out of event PR bps to convert

[vague token]

deus vult edition

[cerulean estuary]

basically we all need BP's

[shell heron]

if the game would give me cube projects that would be great

[sharp wing]

Or just cubes

[ionic magnet]

heh so there's two people now who likes qe

[vague token]

i use qe for sub missions

gotta boost chaser

xD

[shell heron]

[ionic magnet]

im stuck with dead list again

12+ hrs no movement kek

[sharp wing]

I go sleep, fck that

[shell heron]

it's fine, you'll be above me no matter what

I'm curious how low will I end

[cerulean estuary]

lucky fish sauce for me i encounter rank 1

[shell heron]

7 minutes, nobody rushing anymore

time to move

[sharp wing]

well my list got some rank 20-30 plebs so...

[shell heron]

give me some of those. had 2 rank 2k people only

[lament lichen]

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

i mean commander rank

lvl

[shell heron]

123 score first 5 matches

thats even lower than the early rushers

[vague token]

yeah 25 times 5 is 125, but they should get a bit of bonus

big rip

o7

[sharp wing]

I only got 139 this time again

hard to pass 140

this ded lists

[shell heron]

I average a 145 start. 152 on a great start

[sharp wing]

all bonus was early rusher

[vague token]

somehow got 146

xD

[wicked rivet]

ended up with a 147

[sharp wing]

rng

at least i got a rusher after this reset

[vague token]

was hoping i got low level rushers but nope xD

[shell heron]

3rd reset of the season a bust like usual

[coral wren]

7 played matches in total, 198 score so far. This is bad, right?

I think i managed to get 2 +33 on my last 2 attemps, but first 5 i had to rush and get nothing

[shell heron]

still really early, if you can snag 3 bonus match each reset this week

you'll be in a good spot

[shy hazel]

if u think about it

it doesnt matter much if u lose early

in the end

if u sandbag it still scales

losing a round early might as well mean losing 10~8 points on last reset

cay lost 20 points so

u should only be losing 6~7 points

at season end

[lament lichen]

Getting more points at the start just means you dont need to catch up that much and you end up getting less bonuses later on

[cerulean estuary]

i agree with master vysaga , i remember having only 143 on 1st 5 matches last season and having 1 missed attack but still make it through top 8 with 2592 points

[lament lichen]

You can miss one match and still be close to 2600

[shy hazel]

so far getting low gains at,start never took mr off top 10

[lament lichen]

Still need more sandbaggers to push for 2600

[cerulean estuary]

is it possible with 120 1st 5 match points to get 2600+ at the season end?

[lament lichen]

Depends really how many bonuses you get in the first week really

[shy hazel]

i guess i still participate this season

i travel jp in 28

so wont get hit this season

im at least sure

u can,reach 95 with an early loss

at season end

[charred sable]

welp, missed 1 attack already 😂

[coral wren]

overslept?

[shy hazel]

so fast

are u even trying

[vague token]

oof

[charred sable]

was sorting through AX photos

Im even surprised I managed to barely get admiral of fleet last season

3 losses and minimal sandbagging on Avrora. Got kicked out of top 10 within minutes of course xD

[coral wren]

Heh

Damn, i'm really curious how is kgv hms doing on jp/cn against azuma namagyu

Despite the initial bashing from some ppl here on her, i'm starting to think she might be indeed the strongest hms boat rn

[shy hazel]

kgv really

i dont think ppl use kgv in jp

[coral wren]

They should give her a chance. I don't really know how crucial 15% from qe will be for ws kai, and how strong will hiryuu kai be to make any assumption If she should replace qe or monarch, but she might be the key if it comes down to sinking azuma.

[trim horizon]

Haloist in my lobby

[midnight heron]

wut

[trim horizon]

[midnight heron]

im curious if a newbie can actually lose to dat

[stark raft]

walled by solo jintsuu torps

[vague token]

[odd schooner]

Deadlist again

[ionic magnet]

looks like they are reworking subs now

from the latest jp patchnotes

[trim horizon]

[coral wren]

I was hoping for a bigger changes

[finite valve]

the only thing worth mentioning is move sub hunting range

at the cost of oil

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

dk about sub weeklies tho

[shy hazel]

i never did sos

after i unlocked 10th map

[finite valve]

only 2 tries per week

the reward better be worth it

w14 normal map req 6k+ sub fleet power to enter

[ionic magnet]

its a start atleast

also another gacha in 2 days but its all subs kek

[finite valve]

np to me since i never touch special

[trim horizon]

@midnight heron push all the way

[midnight heron]

in 1hr

[trim horizon]

aight

[midnight heron]

no one moved lul

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

ohboi, we get limited build right away after Iris ends...

[midnight heron]

gonna get walled by namaryuu

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

I’ll prolly ignore it. Milking is too fucking obvious

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

when u get lucky

[sharp wing]

3 sub limited

[midnight heron]

i done with my charges anyway

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

cummies

Fakkyu intensifies

[trim horizon]

hey guys got r2 in my list

wat a lucky day

[midnight heron]

lmao

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

I'm still using my semi-meme-wall comp not to wall newbies too much

[midnight heron]

i changed my def comp to not even include any skill lvl based barrage

so if newbies lose its their fault

[sharp wing]

i got 3 cv main

[trim horizon]

I have my KMS comp without gears, the epitome of ♿

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

sadly i dont hav enuf cv 110 (without gear) to place there

[sharp wing]

I'll work on CVs when i get back to w11

w12 i mean

cause 1st it was namagi lvling, then event, then what else...

[midnight heron]

its just 138 mle nothing else

[sharp wing]

well, i have shit luck with them anyway

might not even finish second lol

[midnight heron]

not like im much better lul

[sharp wing]

35k points 17 bps

[midnight heron]

wat

[sharp wing]

while some ppl get 3 guns

[midnight heron]

does dat include shop ones

[sharp wing]

not ofc

[midnight heron]

im at 41.5k pts & 77k oil and only got 15bp 😮

meanwhile my alt acc does the same and still only has 10

lazy af to farm anymore

[sharp wing]

Some ppl actually have worse luck than me

[midnight heron]

wudve been nice if they gave like 1 bp every 10 runs of none but

[sharp wing]

Would be nice if they just put bps in shop, but like double the price after each 15 bought

So ppl just farm points

at like d3

[midnight heron]

😮

[sharp wing]

and buy shit

[midnight heron]

better idea lul

[sharp wing]

well, that's how event stuff works in some games

it's same brainded farming, but no rng

you only farm points and buy rewards at increasing price

[midnight heron]

rng
buy with pts

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

tho it wud raise another issue

of wat gold weapon to replace event weps in those maps

[sharp wing]

just put regular gears in event maps and all exclusive stuff is buy only

or just make it be drop + buy

more casual approach

[midnight heron]

~~time to #game-feedback ~~

[lunar halo]

Bruh

[coral wren]

is there any comp list atm that runs enterprise?

i guess flex spot in amagi nagato instead of hiryuu?

[sharp wing]

and some leftovers of wasde

[coral wren]

is it still somewhat decent?

[sharp wing]

not really

well, vs foxes sure

[coral wren]

well, are there any meta fleets atm besides IJN?

[red nexus]

I guess hms if you get a dev 30 nep and monarch

But could be wrong

[coral wren]

so until essex we're doomed

[sharp wing]

essex doesn't bring anything

[coral wren]

the airstrike defense i guess

reducing damage to 1

might be enough to get the wasd fleet alive

[red nexus]

Ijn uses 1BC and 1 BB, tho

[sharp wing]

nah

[coral wren]

i want to believe

[sharp wing]

it has totally nothing atm

[red nexus]

And hiryuu is actually just warspite bait from what i heared

Which is hilarious since WS kai isn't even a thing yet

[lunar halo]

I still use nagato/akaga

[red nexus]

Well if you have oathed them, i'd do that, too

[sharp wing]

Well, rushers and lazy ppl still use and will use foxes on offense till the times of at least WS Kai, more like till PR2 really. Dragon Kai might make some ppl switch.

[shell heron]

Hiryuu is more than just WS bait rn. Her 15s invuln is very valuable and Nagato gives her airstrikes respectable damage.

[sharp roost]

is it better to put amagi or nagano as flagship in fox comp?

[shell heron]

I like Amagi, but Nagato is the more popular choice because of the CV buff

Amagi's 7s barrage is insane if you have one IJN ship for your frontline

[sharp roost]

Is this the new fox meta ?

• or - belfast, aurora / juneu

[shell heron]

soon when dev30 saint louis become more common

jun/yuki/sanrui will be pretty meta

I'm pretty far off tbh. dev26

just need a chain of sanrui cube projects please

[sharp roost]

ugh need to lvl my pvp team to 120 >.>

sanrui is sant louis?

[wicked rivet]

I only have bel in my fleet to fuck with foxes

But now hiryuu is here and she's even worse

Altho tbh I've only had to reset once in the past 3 weeks

So i might have to wait till hiryuukai for another hard to beat fleet

[shell heron]

Hiryuu's always been here, It's just been awkward to use her before Amagi and Nagato came out

[shy hazel]

hiryu is here to stay

forever

[shell heron]

She'll die the day IJN stop being broken

which is never

[vague token]

she'll die the day fdg gets 120 and dev 25 for dat thicc hp

15 second invuln < 20k+ total hp

[sharp wing]

You can always run fdg ws ryuu

[shy hazel]

the future,of pvp is ultra slow

[shell heron]

you think 1 minute average is slow now

it will be 2 minutes soon

or better, run down the timer because nobody will die

[sharp wing]

3 mins w/ FdG

She likes to torture you

[trim horizon]

@midnight heron

It seems it is fate

[coral wren]

100th time seeing Bluerendar in my opponent lineup

... literally gow

how

[shy hazel]

your list is gay for blue

[coral wren]

like every other pvp season my account somehow manages to tunnel in on certain users during lineup refreshes

and for some reason they’re all people i know

the other day i kept getting this zackfairx fellow

[shy hazel]

sandbaggers always get matched with sandbaggers

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

and that ia fake zack now

zack left for jp

[cerulean estuary]

ive should have given him some native fish sauces as a farewell gift

[shy hazel]

he left without saying

let im be

and can u chnge profile pic alrdy

[cerulean estuary]

haha y u hate her? or it reminds u of something

[shy hazel]

its obva from a hentai

anyways

my resets are bad again

[shy hazel]

event ends in,what

29hours?

[cerulean estuary]

yeah

[shy hazel]

no maint announcement yet so i guess uts nit this reset

dunno if i can,finish my last,gun

8/15

[cerulean estuary]

me too , ive used my LUCKY fish sauce ritual on pvp

10/15 for 3rd gun , 3k oil left

[shy hazel]

is neptune gun still broken

as mg

its feels so bad with neptune using it

[ionic magnet]

not broken but its still a direct upgrade to tbtsk

[midnight heron]

ic someone pinged me

[shy hazel]

its op as sub gun

oh sry

what u mean by broken is bugged

not op

it feels like shit tbh

[ionic magnet]

oh havent tried yet as mg tbh

do the shots keep missing or smth?

[vague token]

my phoenix has had a good time with the nep gun

[ionic magnet]

maybe its just nep still being a baby

[vague token]

oh there's that auto sub randomly taking mvp

again

so weird

[coral wren]

Hey, hoo, have you leveled qe yet?

[ionic magnet]

lv 118 w/ 200 aff rn yea

warspite is at 117

[vague token]

juneau finally 120

huzzah

[coral wren]

Oh no, not 5 +0 again..

[wicked rivet]

nice

[midnight heron]

3 resets on a namaenty just cuz somehow their amagi gets to proc barrages AND shells targeted at hiryuu

next lvl stuff

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

ow two kaga bb barrages but didnt die

lol

[coral wren]

Is anyone still running wasde?

What's your wr against namaryuu?

[sharp wing]

It's been more of WasdA

ever since amagi came around

[cerulean estuary]

nerf hiryuu from 15 to 5 secs

[sharp wing]

10

Enty got 8 after all

[vague token]

actually keep it 15, but instead make it Evade

[cerulean estuary]

or once she launches FINAL COUNTER = she automatically sinks

[vague token]

and trigger at 33%

[sharp wing]

no shit

[vague token]

or trigger higher and just grant 50% damage reduction xD

[cerulean estuary]

invulnerable / perfect dodge should be nerfed imo

[sharp wing]

Damage reduction = just use Taihoe

[coral wren]

It works as intended in pve against ex bosses

[sharp wing]

damage reduction is bs

[coral wren]

al is a pve game

[sharp wing]

ex bosses = just auto w/ junie

smh

Don't say Junie is useless on pve

[coral wren]

born to die

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Protecc Junie

[cerulean estuary]

still waiting for junie oath skin and cleveland swimsuit L2D...... hopefully

[vague token]

waiting for that atlanta retro

so all the sisters can be used

[sharp wing]

Waiting for that Alaska

[vagrant veldt]

waiting for Atlanta plus (Worcester)

[sharp wing]

Never enough CBs

[vague token]

double CB and juneau

who needs ykk

when you can just put more damage on the backline

xD

4 boilers? no big deal

[sharp wing]

5 main ships to PROTECC Junie

Boilers? Nah... CB gyros

[cerulean estuary]

give all ur fleets gold washing machines

[vague token]

xD

how much EHP did they have?

and what did it cost?

[sharp wing]

[brittle hill]

If I have like 6 of each gold AA gun, which should I put on low AA ships? The Bofors?

Should I basically put UFOs on high AA and Bofors for ROF on crappy AA?

Or just Bofors on everyone

[ionic magnet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BglmSOaD1ec8zc6bKwiItf2OcQueoRNxF3UGzlQnHBU/edit?usp=sharing

check the faq tab

blue did some calcs on that

but its p much staag on BB/BCs and then balancing bofors/ufo on everyone else

[shy hazel]

as time goes by

u replace all bofors with the better bofors

staag bofors

[ionic magnet]

do you really want to put staag on VGs tho

well if only hiryuu is the relevant CV then yea sure i guess

[shy hazel]

14/15 on last gun

we can do this

14 bps dropped 1 - 1 on elites

no bps on bosses for like 30k points alrdy

[finite valve]

4 bps drop in a span of what 1h?

what a luck sag

give me your luck then luck sag

need 8 bps for last gun but then knowing my luck i doubt i am going to finish it in time before maint

yeh trying lel

just going to full on rush mode till maint

[shy hazel]

im done too

only 3 pcs farmed tho

then 1 pc from event

4 pcs

i had no motivation when it started

cos no jb heh

i was planning to farm 6

[sharp wing]

I have ratio of 19 bps per 40k event points...

probably won't finish second gun

weird sub limited gnna last till Tuesday

[finite valve]

better save up your gold for next build lel

[sharp wing]

RIP, back to free projects

[finite valve]

funny shit is that i been getting free PR one after the other

most of the time are 8h and 12h free one

at 93k gold atm

hope i don't have to whale for more gold

[sharp wing]

wtf

Funny thing, how free 12 hr project can give you 2 ship bps, while 30 mins coins+cube comm gives 7 bps

[finite valve]

if you lucky

i saw post on 4chan getting 4 bp from 30 min cubes

[sharp wing]

i got 7 w/ 4 focused

i think u can get like 4 focused and rest bps gear

[finite valve]

oh you counting kai bp?

[sharp wing]

i'm counting ship bps

OwO got rank 1 on list

I be like: Umu! Umu!

[vague token]

owo

[vague token]

tfw biscuit lands all of her first 3 shells on vanguard and they evaporate because crit

[sharp wing]

And they miss

[vague token]

na they all hit

xD

i moved my staag and put an sg radar

full deeps

i also swapped to the 381 triple

lot better with that

[elder crane]

what were you using before that?

[vague token]

izumo gun

xD

if i could force her to shoot backline with the dang thing would be fine

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

Jesus, overslept 1 attempt.

Meh, whatever. The start was already shit

[sharp wing]

You can salvage that by increased bonus point potential

[vague token]

rip

[shell heron]

I started with a 10 point 1st match and I was 605 10/10

so not too bad of a recovery

[coral wren]

Well, i guess i could recover, but that should be alot of rushers each reset for me

[finite valve]

or maybe i dk stop trying to get top 10 end of ss

[vague token]

lol

might as well stop being a sandbagger then

cant do that

;)

[finite valve]

sadly i am in avrora

need to sand bag to get aotn

if only there was server transfer

i move to wash or sandy

[vague token]

someday

[coral wren]

i'd move to sandy

[vague token]

it'd be cool to see like the more competitive the server, the better the reward

using like a small gold cost to compete in the season

and then top 100 or so gets a payout

that way transferring to smaller/weaker servers gets less merits since it's less competitive

;)

[coral wren]

YOu have no idea how much of an outrage would be from filthy casuals

[vague token]

glorious

jk

[sharp wing]

Glorious IS a joke indeed

[coral wren]

When i was submitting a ticket about top10/100/500 exclusive rewards, someone hopped in right away to say how it's unfair to those who don't try

[sharp wing]

don't try
unfair

legit

[coral wren]

Ye. Casual logic

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

wait

[sharp wing]

Hey, i'm casual. WDYM

[vague token]

someone ACTUALLY said that?

that's next level

[coral wren]

Yes, cyaneko can confirm

he was there

[vague token]

dear god

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

you know, as a gamer, i feel like we should be treated with respect in regards to game design

but that makes me like

[sharp wing]

And here i say pvp is unfair in other way, favoring casuals and not rewarding tryhards

[vague token]

WE DESERVE NOTHING

[finite valve]

wdym not rewarding tryhards?

5min of ego boost is rewarding enough already

[sharp wing]

Well, i mean not that. I mean ppl who like have full 120 200 aff meta fleet with BiS gear etc

[vague token]

5m if you're lucky, dont the true sandbaggers run the clock down to the last minute

xD

[sharp wing]

30 sec

Glorious 30 sec

[vague token]

im going to finish building monarch before i get this 2nd dd gun

_>

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

idk if i can do 2nd gun

still at 4

[vague token]

i mean 1st actually, (2nd counting store gun)

[sharp wing]

oh

RIP

[vague token]

yeah

[finite valve]

last day rush is real

[vague token]

i mean im at 11/15

might as well push for it

[sharp wing]

i have ratio 40k 19 bps

fck those lucky bastards w/ 6 guns at 90k

[finite valve]

lol yeh right

tell that to 2 ppl who got 10 of the frog guns

[sharp wing]

wtf

[sharp wing]

that's a crime

[finite valve]

2 guys

[stoic skiff]

how in the bulin you do that.

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

go ask them lel

[trim horizon]

me sitting with 2

[sharp wing]

You rub RNGesus in places

[stoic skiff]

I still didn't get one extra

[sharp wing]

I'm gonna try finish second extra

Tho i feel way lazy

probably

[finite valve]

i dk why ppl use their luck in mobile game instead of just buy lottery lel

[sharp wing]

not

[finite valve]

their luck is EX fucking tier

[sharp wing]

They need to share

Light the torches, bring the pitchforks

[finite valve]

just casual farming siren atm

[stark raft]

11-4 lethal? might die

[sharp wing]

I lack all boss ships aside foxes

[vague token]

oof

i got columbia a while ago

[sharp wing]

SOS drop rate increase is a lie

[vague token]

i was so sad sos gave me an extra poi

[finite valve]

placebo affect lel

[vague token]

i had poi at 100 before aya kai came out

=(

[finite valve]

same as hard mode boss drop

rate is the same

[vague token]

someone else could have used that drop

[stark raft]

that will prolly survive on safe then

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

idk but I have uni instead of vestal

[sharp wing]

Awooooooooooooooooooooooo

[finite valve]

dk if i should 120 my ayaya for hm req or not

since i rarely use her

[sharp wing]

just slap dildo

[vague token]

i feel like that team should be ok unless the level difference isnt enough

belchan has a good heal

[sharp wing]

I'm against loli slavery

[vague token]

and sheffield is best maid

;)

[sharp wing]

Siri is best maido

And best Moe

[elder crane]

idk why ppl care so much about lethal cost
it's not that many battles

majority of most farms will end up being in safe anyways

[obtuse wagon]

What's the current ideal sakura fleet for global? This is mine currently

[vague token]

sakura fleet

[sharp wing]

check pins

[vague token]

namagi/sanrui/juneau/ykk

[elder crane]

Or at least BB Kaga

[sharp wing]

she buffer

[elder crane]

if you want all-IJN front I'd say probs Jint Sendai Ykkz, maybe

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

15% buff isn't worth that much

[vague token]

if i wanted a sheller id rather use biscuit

;)

[elder crane]

But I'd highly rec at least Jint/Aurora/Ykkz

[obtuse wagon]

oh dang I still have to farm Hiryuu I completely forgot about her

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

The great Dragon

[elder crane]

BBKaga is the easier one to get up if you're lazy

[finite valve]

w13 is mostly an AA check tho

[vague token]

you can actually miss in w13 though right?

xD

[sharp wing]

In PVE

[finite valve]

not like you going to know what hit and what not when you pumping 2 air strikes at the same time when AA and AR boat spawn

[stoic skiff]

Isn't it only useful for bosses?

[sharp wing]

acc also translates nto crit rate

So technically it's always good anywherre

[finite valve]

worst enemies in w13 are enemies DB AA and AR boat

meh i open all gold

[sharp wing]

620 cubes

[finite valve]

i save all the black box tho

good for trophy

[sharp wing]

wtf you have t3 books lying around

[finite valve]

not even close

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

been using my stash of t1 book

[sharp wing]

ya'll even 3 slots 24/7 skill?

[finite valve]

hence why so much t3

[sharp wing]

t1's is way too slow exp/hr

[finite valve]

and they will always / forever stay there

that's why i been using them

[sharp wing]

you can craft t1 into t2

[finite valve]

wasted exp lel

[sharp wing]

saved time/exp

[vague token]

i do like t3 overnight, another t3, then two t2s

[finite valve]

well lucky i am in summer break

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

my is 120

but i won't 200 her ever probably

[finite valve]

i don't use cancer so she still 116

got her and her sister 200 tho

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

useless piece of shit w/o * lvl

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

at least sanrui can level herself

[sharp wing]

You deserve to be skewered

[finite valve]

not if i skewered her first with my torpedo

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

which i already did actually

[sharp wing]

Baka Hentai!

[finite valve]

dk if i should just use 138 on YKK also

[obtuse wagon]

How is bismark currently in pvp

[finite valve]

since most of the time her barrage just whip anyway

useable

but not really good

[vague token]

she's fine for me

but that's because my vanguard pressure comes from sara debuffs

so im just praying biscuit just nukes backline with her crit

but sometimes she might clip a crit on the vanguard and it's hilarious

the reduced hit is a problem though without nagato buff

but oh well

[obtuse wagon]

I was wondering how good something like a bismark tiripitz type of fleet would go, I hear she's pretty busted on JP when paired with freidrich

[elder crane]

It would be top PvP had it been half a year ago

[finite valve]

nagato buff biscuit?
ok what?

[vague token]

for amagi and no self accuracy buff

[finite valve]

oh

[vague token]

nagato having 20% hit buff is really good =/

[finite valve]

[elder crane]

From what I hear biscuit teams are around the powerlevel of Nakaga, for CN and JP

so... yeah

[finite valve]

biscuit in what comp tho?

amagi and what?

[sharp wing]

Sara

[elder crane]

Bis FdG GZ is the main one afaik

[vague token]

he gets it

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

fdg is MEATY

[finite valve]

shouldn't you be using amagi instead?

[elder crane]

I wonder if Amagi>GZ though

yeah that

[vague token]

zep is 15%

[finite valve]

amagi > GZ 100%

[vague token]

but amagi gives evade and 8%

so

[elder crane]

probably it's that KMS users are memsters who want GZ there

like why else use KMS

[finite valve]

if you want to meme sure

[vague token]

kms is meh

[finite valve]

but i doubt it is affective

[vague token]

it's just fdg being the biggest EHP boat in existence

[obtuse wagon]

surprised graph zep takes the place of tiripitz there, the damage buff Bismarck gives to tiripitz is insane

[elder crane]

well KMS in general is... well... yeah

[finite valve]

still no info on how hard she hits tho

[vague token]

biscuit still works solo imo

but so does any PR bb basically

xD

[sharp wing]

Tirp has no barrage so poor in pvp

[vague token]

biscuit basically has no barrage

[sharp wing]

80% shells hit water or whatever

[vague token]

but her crit skill and reload are better and more comp friendly

yeah but biscuit/fdg/amagi is probably better than zep

[finite valve]

they should make an aux that has a passive that force a ship to prioritize back line instead of VG

[vague token]

no

they just need AP guns

to 100% target backline on first MGM

[finite valve]

isn't it the same lel?

[sharp wing]

Ya'll need to chill

[finite valve]

since we already have the rainbow gun

[vague token]

xD

[finite valve]

just need to actually get it

[sharp wing]

rainbow dildo up yr gun

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

We need a gun that shoots torpedoes, like KGV Barrage

[vague token]

until backline ships can use oxytorp