#pvp | Azur Lane Official | Page 333

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:11 AM

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2051, missed one

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i think you're good

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Well i can make up for today with tomorrow's gensui rush

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Sandbag all the rushers SandyMeme

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Welp. I lost track of time & missed one.

If anyone wants a +1 just @ me

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akagiLUL

hot creek Jul 5, 2019, 7:01 AM

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what server you on?

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 7:02 AM

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laffeyDrink

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:02 AM

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MutsukiStare

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how the mighty have fallen

hot creek Jul 5, 2019, 7:02 AM

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z35wow

odd schooner Jul 5, 2019, 7:02 AM

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MutsukiCurse

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Famine is losing his edge

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 7:02 AM

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The event is all consuming

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NotLikeThis

odd schooner Jul 5, 2019, 7:02 AM

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What season are we now

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24?

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 7:03 AM

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I need my guns

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:03 AM

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that's fair

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xD

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lytUSEGUN

ionic magnet Jul 5, 2019, 7:06 AM

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i was waiting for you to move fam

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EntyLUL

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 7:06 AM

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Sleep & events are my weakness

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FujiNotLikeThis

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:07 AM

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sleep is good

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LaffeyDrink

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 7:08 AM

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I ran out of refreshes on a maxed namaryuu with 1:10 left, so took the furthest right & finished 10 seconds over reset

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Missed all procs too

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tohru_ok

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:08 AM

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xD

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that's a big oof

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next season you can do it!

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lytTHUMBSUP

waxen dawn Jul 5, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Never knew Juneau's defeat voice would be so heartbreaking.

📎 Screenshot_20190705_153028.jpg

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:49 AM

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ooooof

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 7:50 AM

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That's one weird team comp

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:51 AM

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shot a lot of planes probably

waxen dawn Jul 5, 2019, 7:51 AM

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I just put all my favorite ships

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:51 AM

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ah, the noble soul

waxen dawn Jul 5, 2019, 7:52 AM

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And when neither Hood nor Lucky E never procced

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:52 AM

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Salutezume

waxen dawn Jul 5, 2019, 7:52 AM

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And I hate IJN btw

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:54 AM

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MutsukiStare

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all shipfus are good, do not hate

stark raft Jul 5, 2019, 7:54 AM

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People have unlucky Hoods it seems BuckySmug

waxen dawn Jul 5, 2019, 7:54 AM

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My hood is getting old

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:55 AM

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no that's just hood having low base luck ;)

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and low base hit

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xD

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sad that biscuit doesnt have like 80-90 base hit =/

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what is with nevada having so much hit lol, one of her retro tiles adds some

waxen dawn Jul 5, 2019, 7:57 AM

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She's almost literally McCree

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:57 AM

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except mcree can stun people into headshot

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nevada uh

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she can sometimes halve damage

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xD

waxen dawn Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 AM

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S H O U N E N doesn't need stuns.

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 7:59 AM

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you know we dont have a ship that can pause enemy reload

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that'd be fun

shy hazel Jul 5, 2019, 8:06 AM

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MakinaSmug

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fam this is your second consecutive fail

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SandyMeme

stark raft Jul 5, 2019, 8:06 AM

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aurora sandbaggers rise up

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BuckySmug

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 8:07 AM

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I'll probs make it 3

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This game is burning me out

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laffeyDrink

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Atleast i'm almost 100k on the event

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:12 AM

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whoa

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MutsukiStare

ionic magnet Jul 5, 2019, 8:13 AM

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100k

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fam going for the superior ladder

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BuckySmug

shy hazel Jul 5, 2019, 8:16 AM

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fam was alrdy 120k last event

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why go for one ladder when u can do both

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MakinaSmug

odd schooner Jul 5, 2019, 9:37 AM

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I'm out of mail oil

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Maybe this is it for me

shy hazel Jul 5, 2019, 9:42 AM

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you are finished

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UniGun

hot creek Jul 5, 2019, 9:55 AM

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5 days worth of nat regen still left tho

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and quests and comms

odd schooner Jul 5, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Ye should be around 20k more

steep fog Jul 5, 2019, 12:27 PM

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just got 2nd nepgun

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pvp powerup time

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LeanderXD

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Even gods can bleed SandyMeme

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Maybe I can get r1 this season

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Who am I kidding, not happening BuckySmug

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 1:39 PM

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PrinzLaugh

shy hazel Jul 5, 2019, 3:06 PM

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BuckySmug

grim ember Jul 5, 2019, 3:16 PM

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📎 Screenshot_2019-07-05_231351.jpg

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 3:39 PM

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That's an interesting fleet comp

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pairing up each faction I see

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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another sub in build

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lel

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glad i did not touch special SpeeWhat

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I like that both ships that need flagship are on flanks

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Good picture

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Well for Bis it's less of an effect than Nagato

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Ok time to revisit this... Nepgun or belgun on backline BBs?

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Also 818 or cudas?

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:00 PM

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is nepgun better than twin 127?

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in overall trade of damage vs aa durability?

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Thinkpitz

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id need 2 more nepguns anyways

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my 1 nepgun is on phoenix

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I find it more fun to have both amagi and nagato to pelt the VG

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:01 PM

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WarShrug

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Nepgun is easily better than 127 because added durability means fuckall if your BBs are killing the VG that is drawing away their shots

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:02 PM

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i mean, nagato doesnt exactly have a huge problem blowing up VG

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cause lol big seven

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 5:03 PM

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that all your oil? mail, shop, and exam rewards?

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but if I can clear the VG sooner because my nagato doesn't like to big 7

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the better

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:04 PM

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A couple other things...

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Anyone have a 120 kawakaze to show off?

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:04 PM

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i dont think anyone has that to flex

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not like torp squad really needs her

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Xd I'm surprised nobody invested in her

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She's basically better ayanami

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:06 PM

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jintsuu/aya already does fine

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why spend more on kawa

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xD

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 5:13 PM

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you run torp squad without Kawa or Ayaya

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Just do Jintsuu Sendai Aurora

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:13 PM

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havent seen many sendais still

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mostly jintsuu/aurora/ykk

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not sara friendly

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=/

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i think there was 1 sendai with an 818 hiryuu but the levels werent there

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12 more bps and dev 30 =D

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i havent bought all the shop bps yet

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so i might just not use them

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xD

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i think there's 9 left or so

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lytTHUMBSUP

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=(

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 5:18 PM

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i need 38 more bps for maxed monarch

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well, we got no bps on nagato event unfortunately

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I used all my event bps and only got dev25 sanrui.

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only seen the 0.5hr cube bp project once. and that's when I was about to sleep

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 5:22 PM

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the best one you mean?

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 5:22 PM

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would love to spam that because I got 1000+ cubes and doing nothing

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 5:23 PM

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iirc there are three of them, and the one that costs 8k gold and 3 cubes is the most profitable

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 5:23 PM

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the ship specific 8k 3 cube one

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Yeah, it's insanely good. Got it 2 times

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stop playing azure lane 24/7 EmileSip

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Loll

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120s not that bad

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Just spend 1 event playing them and they're 120

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PadoruJoy

odd schooner Jul 5, 2019, 5:25 PM

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8 days had past my nep still 115..

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Started @ 100 from dorming

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Auroras not that good for torp squad

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More specifically shes good for foxes

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I 110 200 affed my sendai 10 days after she was released

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Turns out shes not even meta

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NadeOuchy

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Also, ws is outdamaging non maxed monarch constantly

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:27 PM

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ws does have the highest unboosted fp in the game lol

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I think her accuracy is the key

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Not the fp

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and ofc luck

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ye

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:29 PM

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non retro ws isnt anymore accurate than most lo

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she and nevada have +hit in their retro stats

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oh and apparently hyuuga/ise have +hit in theirs too

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why do the monitors have such high base hit

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xD

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83 on abercrombie, 81 on terror and erebus xD

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all of that shelling stationary land targets really helps your aim i guess

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_>

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:40 PM

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818s have overall worse stats around but the slow is 8s long

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Thats pretty long slow

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Makes vg shelling a bit more relevant

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Also ill have to look at the timings since i forgot but the slow should line up with amagi 2nd shelling

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:41 PM

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it does

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i got hit by it a few times

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:41 PM

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And maybe nagato barrage

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Prolly not

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:41 PM

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that one isnt as important since you're either centered or on side

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:41 PM

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The stats lost isnt that significant

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:42 PM

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well, since i dont use hiryuu it is because then i lose my vg xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Oh, compared to the ryuusei its better stats

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And i think cuda anyways is better than ryuusei on namaryuu

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I did 2 week testing of ryuusei and 2 weeks of cuda

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:43 PM

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i mean that'll change when hiryuu kai shows up

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cause then she gets her aoe damage fix

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and bigger stats for ryuusei to use

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 5:44 PM

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hm, if you can sync centaur 818 with kgv, along with aur it should be a solid hms setup

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:46 PM

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just based on my own testings but

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i feel with ryuusei, it's difficult to get a good targeted hit because of how resilient 120 YKKZ is

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:46 PM

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i mean, that's what nagato barrage is for ;)

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just need 1 hit for fireeeee

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:48 PM

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and even more when you're on defense

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and idk how accurate ryuusei torps get when an enemy YKKZ is hugging your backline

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i feel like it aims at enemy backline more but

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idk

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:50 PM

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WarShrug

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i havent had a torp bomber in my comp for a while now so xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:50 PM

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MutsukiCurse

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sasuga saratoga king

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:52 PM

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k

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im only using 1 comet atm

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without a heavy duty bomber she doesnt get clean kills on backline sometimes

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also, bigger bombs have more base hit

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to hit vanguard

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xD

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1 btd, 1 comet

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vf pirate of course, free durability is free

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RWG and Tank

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xD

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oh i dont have emu on my toaster laptop

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:55 PM

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wait a minute

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kiroshima

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:55 PM

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guess i should fix that

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:55 PM

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saratoga does have torp bomber

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:55 PM

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lol no

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her skill is aim torps

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but she is fighter/dive/dive

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2/3/3

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like graf

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:56 PM

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yea

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aimed torp bombers yo

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:56 PM

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i mean, skill aim torps are whack

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just like her gun aim

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;)

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the reason she is viable is because she has 2k hp over hiryuu

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and a lot more dps

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when she feels like aiming

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the longer the fight the better her damage

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cause those ticks add up

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a lot

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everyone has a lot of plane plates

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 5:57 PM

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same

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 5:58 PM

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but yeah, RWG to ensure max odds of hitting pesky vanguard with the burning/flood

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xD

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and a bit of evade to help her huge hp

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she's only 300 hp under graf zepp

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SandyMeme

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she may be smol

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but she thicc

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7.1k ;)

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 6:00 PM

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do you ever mute saratoga's battlecries

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i would

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:00 PM

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i mean i usually play sound off

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so when it's on it's fine

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no big deal

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AkashiEatGem

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 6:00 PM

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NOM

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:01 PM

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all of my DD bp

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gone in a span of like 2 weeks?

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lel

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:01 PM

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i havent moved out of 8-1 hard mode lol

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/also because it's on clearing mode and im lazy

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:02 PM

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i already clear mode all w8

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so can do whatever

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:02 PM

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i didnt have enough time before event LaffeyDrink

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:02 PM

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but all these DD kai is making a dense in my DD bp lel

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:02 PM

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o.O

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:02 PM

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i have 1 t1 and 0 t2

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t3 i got like 40+ lel

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was just doing CL bp since before w8

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so been lacking

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:03 PM

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oh that makes sense

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at least there isnt a sub retro yet

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to burn dd prints

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;)

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:04 PM

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you know what's funny?

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DR sub

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yes DR not even PR

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or was it DC?

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dk the name lel

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:05 PM

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SpeeWhat

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:08 PM

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azuma rarity name

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decisive R or C

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dk which

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:09 PM

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oh ok

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isnt fdg also decisive rarity?

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xD

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they cost more xp/bps =(

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:10 PM

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lol, finally we get kagerou retro, after her skill been leaked since like autumn

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:10 PM

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it's just disturbance shooting

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the skill with unknown effectiveness

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due to the terrible activation rate

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and it doesnt say how big the debuff is

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lol

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and it targets randomly

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X_x

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:11 PM

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not that you use her for the debuff anyway

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:11 PM

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skill is of 0 importance

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:12 PM

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look a lot of ships have disturbance shooting

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like bailey

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xD

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:12 PM

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552 torp + chain torps + vg torp command

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 6:12 PM

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pretty sure if we can datamine that shit we would have it by now

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:12 PM

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she just got 4th useless skill

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i bet it's probably trash like 5% reload/damage debuff

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lol

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:13 PM

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lol, her retro buffs asw

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:16 PM

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that's pretty bad for 25% rate lol

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:17 PM

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no1 really cares about those skills tbh

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:17 PM

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i mean, im sure someone did but they never bothered to update it cause the skill is trash

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like if it was -100% reload

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that'd be interesting

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25% to freeze someone for 10 seconds

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 6:18 PM

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they should come out with some more debuff skill ships

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:18 PM

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wait what happens when you have -100% reload

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:18 PM

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gun low reload

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like torps on subs

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:19 PM

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oh it's 200 / 100

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:19 PM

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base realod increases lol

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:19 PM

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oh that's just 40% gun time

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that's actually kinda sad

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i guess with the damage debuff it would be ok

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but 25% chance is still >_>

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Have you considered using Firefly on Sara instead of Comet.

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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yeah it only gains duration

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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it reads in description

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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if i had double firefly

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id do that

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but i think 1 btd 1 comet is better

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hmm i guess btd/firefly is only .5 seconds slower

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Thinkpitz

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double firefly would be nice though

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which event was firefly again

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xD

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rip, it'll be a while for that to rerun

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Firefly is +1 1k bombo over garbage bombs

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with same avi bonus

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Comet is probably not wrth over it if you run it mainly for gold stats

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:30 PM

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it's mostly just for speed since btd is slow xD

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i could try like Me/btd/firefly

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SandyMeme

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or me/btd/btd

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yep all reload is now base equip times sqrt 2

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too bad slow skills only stack multiplicatively

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otherwise you'd actually be able to freeze ships

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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xD

empty grove Jul 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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I wonder if I could salvage 1 loss

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ThinkZed

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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seeing as you're only 5 points below me now. It's possible

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oh time to check if anyone rushed on my list SandyMeme

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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everyone farming D2 here?

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how many extra 138.6 so far?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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oh ya

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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2 working on a 3rd

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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i should go to d2

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WorldBurns

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why am i in d3

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is this mindless farming

stoic skiff Jul 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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How much do you guys play MutsukiStare

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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the drops are awful for me

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working on 3rd as well

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do any BB or BC use this good too?

stoic skiff Jul 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I just have 5 prints and it is the first one...

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For pvp?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:47 PM

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it's a decent one for backlines that can't equip CL guns

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i would still go for 127s tho i think

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:47 PM

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alright

stoic skiff Jul 5, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Ok

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:48 PM

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so then just around 3-4 is enough?

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or do Submarine want this 138.6 as well?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:48 PM

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submarines deal map-based sub dmg based on fleet power

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so whatever gives more fleet power

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AKA gold/rainbow equips

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:50 PM

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how many 138.6 everyone intend to farm?

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oh right

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so which pvp ships want the 138.6 ?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:53 PM

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like

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hood

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orr

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:53 PM

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nice

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:54 PM

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USS BBs

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:54 PM

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weird, im lvling for Ibuki as well

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since i got other 4 PR ships done

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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tacao choukai maya atago

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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will there be a lvl 130 cap somewhere?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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not anytime soon

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lol

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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ofc there will be

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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lvl mogami and Jintsuu some more?

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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unless you like fighting w14 with 120 boat

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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o rly

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you got that many ships ?

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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~~He got no life~~

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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more like got that many SR ship

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:57 PM

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lol dude

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 7:57 PM

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BuckySmug

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:57 PM

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i havel ike

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150k chips

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:57 PM

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lemme check

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11879 here

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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130k

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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do you run out of gold though?

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I had 21 yesterday LeanderXD

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21 chips

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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where do u guys spend ur chips

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Broke wayy too many SRs

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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wtf

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I've 11 lv120s

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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i have .... 7 i think

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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also I have like ~10 more 115+

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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still none here

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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oh right it's 12 now

safe meteor Jul 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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highest for me is 117

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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but i always keep my ships capped unless i need them to be 120

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:00 PM

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nah it's only 11 lv120s

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I included the one I just finished

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📎 NoxPlayer_7_5_2019_4_00_56_PM.png

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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wtf

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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📎 NoxPlayer_7_5_2019_4_01_15_PM.png

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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400 dock space

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u gotta chill

stoic skiff Jul 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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and 4 more ships above lv 100

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Tip: use secretary selection

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allows for better sorting

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:02 PM

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mines pretty shit lo

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i've recently started leveling sandy and ws

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in prep for retro

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that's a good idea

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i might not even oath ws

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probably oath sandytho

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Ehh I just got mine done for Monarch

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:04 PM

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i spent like

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$50 on AL and i feel like a whale already

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the next purchase i make is like the 2x gems at $49.00

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which is gonna jump my expenditures to 100

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Monka

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:05 PM

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all the 2X packs, the monthly daily res, and half the event packs for me

#

I still feel like a dolphin

#

can't afford to spam skins like some people I know

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maaaybe a Killer Whale WarShrug

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:06 PM

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just get a better paying job

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LaffeyDrink

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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well I don't want to spend more money actually

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I could, but I've spent enough

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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how do i sort by secretary

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ohhh

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yea i got it lo

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Much better way to view ship list

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:08 PM

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nvm i'm more noob than i thought

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📎 unknown.png

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only 6 120s

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pure PVP efficiency baby

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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off meta ships at 110

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oh boi

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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For me it's PvP and some grinds

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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i'll probably only 120 future PVP ships

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Monarch grind gave me 120 Dork and WS and Hood

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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like sandy and ws

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but otherwise the PVE maps don't really require 120 ships yet

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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And Wash is from ch11 grinding

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since she's my next best ship for that after I finished Amagi

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Also Aurora as flex Namayu-stall spot is surprisingly nice
Got wrecked once though by Jun and Aurora both instadying to torps

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(and ofc also not-great barrage RNG afterwards)

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:12 PM

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biggest oath ragret is still sendai

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:12 PM

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it barely holds on though, I feel, on offense

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:12 PM

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i used her for a grand total of 1 week

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until i realized she sucks

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at least at 110 stage

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:13 PM

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110 vs 120s or 110 vs 110s, and in which team?

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:13 PM

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oathing pvp only ship

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EntyLUL

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serve you right

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I oathed her cause AkagiFluff too

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so no regrets

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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110s vs 110s

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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LaffeyDrink

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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and whenever sendai came out

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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even in 120 she is still whatever

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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so amakaga meta

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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i still got shit ton of boat to oath

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Ehh, I found sendai was good then

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since everyone and their mother ran/runs bel

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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taihou all of essex class u 47 i 13

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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I used her in Hamayuu though

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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pfft

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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i was expecting groundbreaking

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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scrubs and their bel

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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because of the 25% eva stacking on aurora EVA

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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when sheffield was the true queen

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SandyMeme

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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but even that combo didn't reliably wipe VGs

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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well idk it felt fine to me

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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and then juneau was still a better option

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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it works for JP tho

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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defensive VGs felt stronger than suicide squad

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it worked for JP yea

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that's why i was so sold on it lo

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I ran Sendai/Jun/Ykkz for Hiryuu/Amagi/Hood for a while

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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YKKZ came out a bit later but yea

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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well that's cause Nakaga was uncontested in JP for a good while

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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she basically was the end of sendai lo

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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nakaga was probably sleeping on hiryuu

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back then

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Nah, no amagi, no WaSD

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nothing for Hiryuu to slot into

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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might have to do with amagi arrives early in EN?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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one unlucky proc and u still do 1 dmg

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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since at that time JP was using nagato

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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i mean nagato hiryuu with X should be ok

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against foxes

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not godtier

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just ok

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Amagi is what made that team

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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it's because sendai didn't work very well with amagi

#

amagi fires too fast

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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just slap hood in there

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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this ofc is without Bunny Kais as well

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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should be fine

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Erm, no

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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you needed to adjust her gearing to have her barrage land within sendai flare

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Amagi defensive buffs is worth about as much as a Juneau heal

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if not more

#

so... yeah

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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amagi defensive buffs is god tier yea

#

there is no ship as groundbreaking as amagi lol

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in PVP meta

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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should have been 3 ships ;)

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

#

she's beyond T0

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like

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she's so good that

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even if you take away any one of her skills

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Amagi is not "broken" its the level of mathematical error

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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she's still a good t1 or even t0

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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someone just fucked up

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Literally she'd still be run without her barrage
let that sink in

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

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i mean she still reduces aviation damage taken

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

#

she's BB statted BC

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3 extremely strong buffs

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

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she'd be an option to swap out, but you'd still see her with no barrage

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

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wonder if yamato is going to live up with the hype against a sick cancer fox

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

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i mean just slap on some radars

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it's fine

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

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not to mention amagi's barrage is something else lo

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fucking AP, torpedos, HE shells

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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It's DDAP so LeanderXD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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yea amagi is worshippable

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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the AP isn't really the thing

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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only the finest of 120 medium armor bonus

#

or w/e it was

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on 230 base damage

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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kek

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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203 iirc

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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the ijn gud stuf

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:21 PM

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yea that's why i wasn't sold when amagi was first presented on paper

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

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They "compensated" for nerfing her originally planned defensive skills, I think

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

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i saw the skills and was like, ehh this is pretty good

#

then i saw her level 10 barrage

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and was like

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ahhhh okay

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

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The defensive skills alone means Amagi for sure had a place somewhere

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

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this is the most fucking broken ship in AL

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

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someday tennessee's debuff will be reworked to be as good as amagi's

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

I didn't figure out Namayuu though
I just thought it'd be WaSDA

#

which for a while was the 2nd best team

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

but without a barrage and without a backline evade buff

#

;)

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

#

yea

#

actually wasda was best team even at 1 point

#

it was better than amakaga

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Well only for EN

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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took about 2 weeks for people to realize tho

#

then wasda became a big wall lol

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Ehh idk imo Hiryuu/Amagi/X+stuff was the sleeper team no one really figured out

#

it murdered everything as offense

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

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i was using amagi/hiryuu/dork or hood

#

ez mode

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

I was running that team since right after CE

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

DorkHeart

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Built it as a fox-counter, but it turns out to be legit elsewhere too

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

yea but i mean

#

we were trying hiryuu way before

#

and she just sucked vs foxes

#

lol

#

this was back in like november or october

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

Yeah she didn't survive at lv100 without Amagi

#

and Badge on her

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

oh yeah i only used her at 110

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

WaSDH was a team I regret not trying

#

back before Amagi, that is

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

wait

#

what the shit

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

my skill EXP for KGV just reset

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

MutsukiStare

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

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like, on ship page, in the academy, or what?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

📎 Screenshot_20190705-162642.jpg

#

📎 Screenshot_20190705-162647.jpg

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

is lvl 9

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

do you see the 9+1

#

it means it completes it

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

you need to put on sun glass my dude

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

📎 Screenshot_20190705-162738.jpg

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

the hall now forecasts the result

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

xD

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

lvl 9 + 1

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

dafuq

#

but it shows 5k

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

means you get no more exp

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

NEW UI TECH

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

and now it shows 5.45k

#

i just gained 450 EXP by switching books

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

oh no

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

Okay, sirreq let us explain

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

1 pic you use t3 book

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

📎 Screenshot_20190705-162833.jpg

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

so ofc it going to be full

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

LOOK LOl

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

the hall now forecasts the result of using the selected book

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

5001 lel

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

oh

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

this is new

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

it shows you the result of using the selected book

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

xD

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

instead of the current level

#

which imo is super annoying

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

ok but i swear

#

last night

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

wonder wtf you been doing since the new UI

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

the game is now a neural net processor

#

a learning computer

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

yep it was just patched in

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

my KGV was at 5750

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

it can PREDICT things

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

like i SWEAR

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

with the power of ai

#

jk

#

just math

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

i could have sworn

#

... idk

#

maybe i'm just drunk

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

i could have sworn i was high?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

i feel like i got cheated off 750 EXP

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

it was just patched in recently so dw

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

cus i think you was

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

LaffeyDrink

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

and ofc the devs made no patchnote for it

#

which is EntyLUL

#

I was all confused for a good minute too

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

i mean do the devs do patch notes

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

pretty sure i saw those exp increase way before hot fixes

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

or someone else

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

dk dc tbh

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

and how much do they communicate

#

lol

#

oh hey biscuit 118

#

soon ultimate AP power

#

will be mine

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

BiskoLUL

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

gimme those 2k izumo gun crits

#

/miss miss miss

#

BiskoLUL

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

wait so is

#

818 + ryuusei the ultimate fox equip now

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

yes

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

if the torp hit

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

how confirmed is this

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

ask how many ppl in here use foxes

#

and you will get your answer

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

lol

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

which is close to 1

#

that 1 being me

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

everyone here is a filthy meta slave except for a saratoga lover

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

Yeah it's great if you have anything to follow up 818 with

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

I use HMS, excuse you

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

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idk how u can love saratoga

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

818 is good on foxes

#

problem is they need to HIT first

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

Ehh I fulfilled my quota of non-meta by using Hiryuu and WaSDA when they weren't cool

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

her voice activation is aids

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

if the torp miss is just whatever

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

im not the most hipster here lol

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

well with 9 torps in the water you're likely to hit something

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

lol yeh right

#

i saw them miss more than hit

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

just need to hit one VG and it's worth imo

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

one vg hit is as good as all vg hits

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

idk who started wasda here but i think it was gurren, sumire and me

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

actually im using biscuit/amagi/sara atm offense

#

;))))

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

wasd was meta vs foxes

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

I used that at lv100

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

for around what 1 or 1.5 season?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

i think i confirmed the maxed fleetpower for wasda

#

with gurren

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

after that is full on amagi

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:35 PM

#

to be like

#

14206 or something

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:35 PM

#

Daxam came way later

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:35 PM

#

I was part of the discussion/testing on optimal WaSDA vanguards

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:35 PM

#

i am a pretty OG pvp guy if i do say so myself

#

but that's only because the more OG guys left already

#

like

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

I do Ayaya

#

Eldridge all over the place

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

recluse suzuteo and that other mask guy

#

oh his name was req

#

not really pvp guy tho

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

I miss izurich

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

oh ya

#

i miss that guy for sure

#

i fought for his return

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:37 PM

#

Feb 2nd, tooting my own horn :P:
"
Overall, on EN, pretty much any of the top teams clearly wins on offense.
Amaka with torp-suicide-fl is the fastest of them all, so it's probably the "best" offense team right now
It works equally well with defensive frontline instead, but slower
WASDA/WASDE is as good as always better imo with torp/sui over defensive, but either works fine really
Have not tried WASDH yet, is next on list
Screw HMS until we get DoY

Recently, I've been trying out Amagi/Hiryuu/Enty as offense (Hood probably a fine sub for either Amagi or Ent), and with either suicide or stall frontline, to my surprise, it actually wins versus most anything (does especially well vs Akaga-type teams, which is what I originally designed it to target) with very high winrate, and a bonus of Hiryuu's 15 s immunity giving a much larger reset window in the rare case where things go really wrong"

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:37 PM

#

then the psycho mods went to attack me

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:37 PM

#

o.O

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:37 PM

#

yea man i tried my best for all my PVP buddies

📎 unknown.png

#

i also did the same thing for recluse but the mods just don't budge

#

feelsbadman

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:38 PM

#

They still come here from time to time, when have nothing to do, making a fucking joke out of themselves

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:38 PM

#

yea

#

i think we have 1 mod that is on our side tho

#

syanda will help us

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:39 PM

#

Literally who

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:39 PM

#

Eyy I found my post predicting WaSDA
"
And her barrage is nothing to be scoffed at either.
Additionally, Amagi's main weakness is to planes, between her poor base AA and evasion not working on suicide damage. WASD covers for her on this."
Jan 18

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:39 PM

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lmao blue

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:39 PM

#

I was looking for that but didn't find it recently

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

#

yea i think u were an earlier wasda supporter too

#

when did amagi get relaesed

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

#

"I think just going all-in on suicide frontline is better for Amaka, and maybe even for WASDA
Will try it both ways this season for WASDA"
Jan 21

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

#

Are those guys still present on unofficial server?

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

#

hmm, I'm sure I predicted WaSDA before that even

#

why is discord search sometimes so buggy...

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:41 PM

#

lmfao remember this blue

📎 unknown.png

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

lol

finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

none of the mods ever police ALEC since it is not official

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

#famouslastwords

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finite valve Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

can do whatever

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

And i still remember daxxam saying her buffs and debuffs are shit EmileSip

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

Oh right, that's before I figured out where she'd fit LeanderXD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

HAAHA

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

#

I correctly predicted Amakaga is just worse Nakaga though

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

#

ok there is noone to blame there cus that was before we even saw amagi barrage

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

#

Well I predicted WaSDA there

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

#

LOOL

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

#

doodBigBrain

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 8:44 PM

#

I was shilling for wasd amagi before day1

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:44 PM

#

LMFAOO look at this gem

📎 unknown.png

#

daxam trying to sell glowworm

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:44 PM

#

Though,
"That's true, but given HMS and USS matches up against NAKaga and most people think Nagato > Amagi for AKaga, I doubt it'll be more than just bandwagoning"
didn't realize Amakaga was good enough in EN with limited selections LeanderXD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

omggg lol

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

donald trump is using 818 with 410 nagato

#

insta killing my vanguard

#

xD

#

sometimes

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

I remember this too

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

oh, 410s with nagato?

#

that... seems reasonable

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

yeah foxes 410 nagato

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

what's the timing though

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

410 Nagato very legit
it's just under 20s

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

i had to swap biscuit out

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

But Bel should still just laugh at that

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

ohh i was thinking namaryuu not foxes

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

nakaga yeah

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

Timing for 818 in Namayuu is shite

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

i dont think belfast would help

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

can't you time 381 nagato with 818s anyways?

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

i mean it would

#

but mine is 110

#

xD

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

not til the 3rd Nagato volley

#

2nd Amagi and 3rd Nagato volleys

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

he's using sanrui/aurora/juneau

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

problem is that's not enough value really

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

#

that's interesting

#

interesting theorycrafting

#

i have no time to do that shit nowadays

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

#

I've been trying it past few days

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

#

my vanguard loses all trades

#

with biscuit

#

cause lol aa

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

#

i mean there's always room for foxes to somehow crawl back to meta

#

no actually

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

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na there's always room for me to slap nagato back in

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and murder that team comp

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ez

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who cares if vanguard dies

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just shoot em

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

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i might not have a job lo

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this SQL shit is too fucking hard for me

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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818 in Namayuu has issue that by time you can use the slow, dure to timings, enemy VG is already mostly dead

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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after studying 8 years in accounting

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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usually it's just ykkz left and ykkz laughs at 818

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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suddenly starting a SQL heavy job

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hard af

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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amagi goes out of meta
That would be a dream come true

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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amagi goes out of meta
...
cause even more OP ships join

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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dude it's just database garbage over and over again man

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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=(

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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visual basic, SQL, R

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kill me

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I have nothing against more op ships, if they are non ijn based and buff their faction only

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Srsly

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Fuck ijn

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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windows powershell

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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na

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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i'm about to lose my job lol

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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we need more crossfaction ships

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to encourage more diverse lineups

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it goes better with the theme of the game

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which is bringing the factions together

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to defeat sirens

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:50 PM

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crossfaction ships with a specific strategy niche instead

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:50 PM

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lol

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savgae

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savage

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i have a friend that lives in kenya and it's not that bad

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Like amagi could've been nice without barrage
maybe even buff her defensive skills

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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anyways they just really need to buff bismarck

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Well, i feel the only diversity you will get is. 2 ijn buffers with 1 random 3rd slot

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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like

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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bismarck doesnt need that much

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actually

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Which is already there

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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she would be a "if you try to run a shelling-heavy fleet, glhf vs me"

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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u cannot overbuff her in this KMS dry meta

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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she needs hit rate

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and she needs a bit of base damage on her barrage

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and she's fine

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or like "critical hits automatically hit"

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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she needs some kind of groundbreaking buff that validates KMS VG

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otherwise the KMS VG are just gonna be forever trash

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Like, here's a proposed Amagi setup:
Similar stats, maybe lower FP and raise Eva
No barrage
20% Evarate and fire dred
Same stat debuff, maybe even 15% there

Slows down match significantly, and really reduces Shelling/Torp/Bomb damage but is vulnerable vs plane suicide

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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she's too much of a solo ship atm though

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Well, kms needs better ships for pvp, and good planes for graf. She shouldn’t alone bring kms back into the game

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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yea or create some kind of interesting synergy with tirpitz

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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KMS just doesn't have good enough other ships to use the buffs

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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she does have synergy with tirpitz

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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that'd be romantic and variety-breeding

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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it's called when she dies

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tirpitz gets 70% damage

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lol

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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lol...

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Stuff like Jun, Ykkz, Bel/Sheff, you run already

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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it's just a dmg boost though... that's so boring

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or why not like

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Power creep police, stop right there

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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well, if tirpitz had good torpedos it'd be neat

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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lol

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if they are in the same fleet

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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cause it does boost the torpedos

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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fire a COMBINED BARRAGE at 20 s

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that'd be fucking sick

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a barrage unlike you've ver seen

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it's like an infinite darkness + wash barrage

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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the torpwall from the boss version

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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118 biscuit crits for 2.2k on hiryuu with izumo gun

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i dont understand why biscuit didnt get the black hole thing

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from pve

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instead of her weird barrage

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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oh yea that'd be sick too

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holy shit

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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it'd be good for pve

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neat for pvp

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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ryuusei with blackhole

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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it probably broke the game BuckySmug

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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and like it synergizes with her cl gun skill

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pulling vanguard to a spot where she guns em

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it's good design

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GOOD DESIGN

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WHY ISNT IT REAL

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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yeah, add in the black hole, even make it do no damage

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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yeah

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doesnt need damage

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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yea

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this is high IQ thinking session

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why aren't we hired by yostar yet

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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you know why

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;)))))))))))

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Idk if the game code can handle that though

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it probably breaks the AI somehow

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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because yostar doesn't give a shit about PVP KEK

coral wren Jul 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Blackhole skill would be useful in pve for neutralizing torps

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And immobilizing ships

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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honestly instead of her barrage

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they should have given her a CL gun barrage

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that triggers with her cl gun

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like zeppy

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to synergize with black hole

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cut the damage but make it spammy

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while her vanilla shells are for big deeps

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cause crits

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my 118 biscuit crits 120 hiryuu for 2.3k or so

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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wait

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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how unclean is their code tho

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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with izumo gun

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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im actually curious

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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oh no

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disturbance shooting is whack

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on all of them

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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is there proper commentation

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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lol comments

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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lol

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wait who

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is emma-chan

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is that the cute CEO

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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stall is easiest fight for this:
https://gyazo.com/87b9c9e48551e0ed082feb891d28b0c4

Gyazo

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;)

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Well look at the battle formula for some WTF moments

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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what if reload wasnt square root

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xD

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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why are u working in retail and not dev

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u seem pretty knowledgeable about dev stuff'

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lol why not dev some cool apps

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isn't that how everyone does it

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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"
function slot18(slot0)
...[stuff that I skip for the juicy part]

slot4 = slot1
slot4 = slot4.NUM1
slot5 = slot1
slot5 = slot5.SPEED_CONST
slot6 = slot1
slot6 = slot6.NUM1
slot6 = slot3 - slot6
slot5 = slot5 * slot6
slot4 = slot4 - slot5
slot5 = slot2 / slot3
slot5 = slot5 * slot4

return slot5

end

slot0.GetFleetVelocity = slot18
"

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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because cool apps dont get you food

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right now

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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build some cool projects or what not

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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lol

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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then it looks nice and pretty on your resume

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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"
slot6 = slot3 - slot6
slot5 = slot5 * slot6
slot4 = slot4 - slot5
slot5 = slot2 / slot3
slot5 = slot5 * slot4
"
Like, what?

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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lool

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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wait what is that

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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ship velocity formula

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a fragment of it

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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the hell

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Yep, it's basically assembly LeanderXD

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written in lua too which defeats the point

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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intern kun

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AquaLUL

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don't u think yostar is making big bank

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Also, loading in constants from another file:
"
slot0 = ys.Battle.BattleFormulas
slot1 = ys
slot1 = slot1.Battle
slot1 = slot1.BattleConst
slot2 = pg
slot2 = slot2.gameset
slot3 = ys
slot3 = slot3.Battle
slot3 = slot3.BattleAttr
slot4 = ys
slot4 = slot4.Battle
slot4 = slot4.BattleConfig
slot5 = ys
slot5 = slot5.Battle
slot5 = slot5.BattleConfig
slot5 = slot5.AnitAirRepeaterConfig
"

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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as a small company

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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So you'd think the constants are loaded in from a txt or other data file

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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chinese level math memorization

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lol

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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but nope, constants are in a lua file

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they use a fricken lua file to store data

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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o.O

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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one thing i'm concerned about is

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how big is my AL file getting now

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because i'm scared to check

elder crane Jul 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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"
s.Battle.BattleConst = ys.Battle.BattleConst or {}
ys.Battle.BattleConst.NORMALIZE_FLEET_SPEED = Vector3.right
ys.Battle.BattleConst.SUMMONING_SICKNESS_DURATION = 1.5
ys.Battle.BattleConst.NON_QUEUE_WEAPON = 0
ys.Battle.BattleConst.SMOKING_HP_RATE = 0.3
ys.Battle.BattleConst.NORMAL_TEXT_SCALE = 1
ys.Battle.BattleConst.SMALL_TEXT_SCALE = 0.8
ys.Battle.BattleConst.TEXT_MOVE_TIME = 0.4
ys.Battle.BattleConst.TEXT_FADEOUT_TIME = 0.6
ys.Battle.BattleConst.TEXT_SCALE_TIME = 0.4
ys.Battle.BattleConst.CRI_TEXT_OFFSET = 1
ys.Battle.BattleConst.MAX_EQUIPMENT_COUNT = 6
ys.Battle.BattleConst.DEAD_FLAG = "flagDead"
ys.Battle.BattleConst.WaveTriggerType = {
"
This goes on for 300 lines

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and is only one of many files

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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at this rate al crosswave is gonna have cleaner code

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and that's done by ch/if

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xD

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top kek

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i keep getting gold boxes from d2

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boss

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and not bps

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=///////////

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oh, 2nd white purple shell though

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=D

real notch Jul 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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oh hello there @odd schooner i see u in my list

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nice fleet heh

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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This is great, gensui rush day and nobody is moving LaffeyDrink

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Sandy every season

vague token Jul 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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LaffeyDrink

modern tree Jul 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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experience the peak of Gensui gameplay

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where about 10 people rush in the entire first reset and second rest is the real shit

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 11:09 PM

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4 gensuis on Sandy so far

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unable to push half tix without +9s lol

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 11:16 PM

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24 people in gensui scores in Avrora

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which is fine with me. I sandbagged 5 bonus points this reset

sharp wing Jul 5, 2019, 11:17 PM

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FumizukiStare

shell heron Jul 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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I made up for the 2 dead resets yesterday LaffeyDrink

odd schooner Jul 5, 2019, 11:24 PM

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But my fleet has always looked lik that LeanderXD

coral wren Jul 6, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Does sanrui punch hard at dev 25 and 30?

hot creek Jul 6, 2019, 3:25 AM

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moreso at 30 I imagine.

wicked rivet Jul 6, 2019, 3:38 AM

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i love your fleet gurren 02LUL

vague token Jul 6, 2019, 3:53 AM

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25 she can clear pve

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but not pvp

coral wren Jul 6, 2019, 4:11 AM

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i see... i just afraid that nep dev 30 might be a total flop

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:11 AM

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She should be good

coral wren Jul 6, 2019, 4:11 AM

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and sanrui might be better

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:11 AM

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But also not groundbreaking

stark raft Jul 6, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Nep is just tanky stall

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Mostly I've heard Nep>Sanrui unless vs Aurora

vagrant veldt Jul 6, 2019, 4:13 AM

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advantage of Neptune is higher AA

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:13 AM

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And Nep is top CL DpS iirc
Or close

coral wren Jul 6, 2019, 4:13 AM

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they both take middle spot or yuki's placxe?

vagrant veldt Jul 6, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Yukikaze is more scared of Aurora

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Either lead or mid

stark raft Jul 6, 2019, 4:14 AM

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HMS AA not scared of any planes even without bel BuckySmug

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Nep is pretty heavily affected by Aurora too

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At the standard CL evarates Aurora knocks off about 1/4-1/3 of eHP

vagrant veldt Jul 6, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Aurora is just scary

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Ofc on DDs or vs smokes/etc. Aurora does even more, but even just vs a naked CL she already does a lot

vagrant veldt Jul 6, 2019, 4:16 AM

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at last Neptune has hp advantage compared to Yukikaze

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which highlights the problem of DD's low hp

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Well with her heal she has one of the highest vanguard HP pools, Nep

vague token Jul 6, 2019, 4:17 AM

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the main thing is the mle destroys the nepgun

odd schooner Jul 6, 2019, 4:17 AM

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She XD too

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LeanderXD

vague token Jul 6, 2019, 4:17 AM

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130% coefficient lol

elder crane Jul 6, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Well Nep DpS is very barrage-reliant