pvp

[vague token]

im pretty sure it's bread gun

i just see it as a loaf

[sharp wing]

bread whatever

[elder crane]

Yo why is the chart not pinned

[ionic magnet]

these gun names

.....

[sharp wing]

128mm ap gun

[vague token]

look i have my handy dandy imgur reference

right here

https://imgur.com/a/hKUGTEK

xD

[sharp wing]

BREADGUN

[vague token]

DUCK GUN

;)

[sharp wing]

quack

[vague token]

[elder crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/570269640111161344/Capture.PNG

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

oh, imma save that

[shell heron]

not being called the baguette gun

[elder crane]

60 targeting for breadgun

[sharp wing]

yeah, felt something like that

[shell heron]

well guess I move now. about 5m to reset

[sharp wing]

o rushed 3

[elder crane]

+5 total this reset from 1 +2 and 3+1, nice

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i got two +2s and a +1

xD

[elder crane]

makes up for +0 last reset....

[vague token]

yeah i had that lol

[shell heron]

I got a +2 and that's it

[vague token]

still behind by a lot though

[sharp wing]

1101 5/10 atm

I need to make it 1111

[vague token]

yeah im 1090 5/10

[sharp wing]

I wouldn't be able to even make 0/10 atm

[vague token]

ive had to work some mornings so my schedule hasnt been good for proper sandbagging

[sharp wing]

without nines

[vague token]

so if someone gets me let me know ill just do all my matches for you ;)

[sharp wing]

On Sandy that is

[elder crane]

1087 at 5/10 :P

[sharp wing]

hmmmm

and i thought i had shit start

[elder crane]

Then again I can't play around 2/3 resets most days

[vague token]

last reset matchmaker gave me a free point from stella though

xD

[elder crane]

So that's probably why

[shell heron]

done

1107 5/10

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[elder crane]

Yay 2 full matches behind you

[sharp wing]

Sandbag powercreep

[shell heron]

And I'll still prob end below top 3

[vague token]

you gotta believe

in the rng

;)

[ionic magnet]

1098 5/10 did i miss a match

[vague token]

no

[odd schooner]

Loli 416

[shell heron]

No, but I might have

[ionic magnet]

Cay is only 1 pt above me just days ago

rip

[vague token]

bad bonuses ;)

[ionic magnet]

hmm yea prolly cos i just rushed after maintenance

[vague token]

[shell heron]

I did 4 bonus matches for a few resets yesterday

[vague token]

i havent been getting many bonuses so im lower than you xD

[shell heron]

but the base points is back to +10.

time to bring out namayuu again

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

oof

[shell heron]

Same, almost safe and not one bp

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

I only got 2 event ships so far from build

[elder crane]

I've my siren farm set up now at least

[ionic magnet]

100 pulls no jb

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

and 4 massa kek

[sharp wing]

none of those

[elder crane]

took me about 150 cubes for all of then

[sharp wing]

Got Dunk and Forb

[elder crane]

no 556 this time around!

[sharp wing]

I will be borderline no cubes few days this event again

While some ppl even manage cube projects

[shell heron]

I'm pretty happy with my 40 pulls for everyone

I might try JB in pvp that CN loves so much

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

She's mostly used in CN to make a 5-person PvP team

ofc it's RNG but that means you can level a ship

[vagrant veldt]

JB is JP meta

they like using weird ship with weird gear choices

[ionic magnet]

namagi jb? or something else?

[vagrant veldt]

something like Centaur JB Dunkirk was claimed to be a counter for Nagato-Amagi-Hiryuu

[ionic magnet]

wow really

[vague token]

wait what

[vagrant veldt]

and they put PR steering on all their vanguards

[vague token]

except namagi shoots before 20?

?_?

[ionic magnet]

more like noone shoots at 20

👀

[vague token]

it's really annoying how many 20 seconds centric abilities there are

because the meta is so far away from it

[hot creek]

sounds like big meem

[vague token]

but then again we dont have a wide variety of gear timings

like we do on dd gun times

[hot creek]

relying on 30% chance to proc. good may may

[vague token]

when are we gonna get the 76mm gun for planes

and bb guns

;)

and torpedos

yeeeet

[sharp wing]

[vagrant veldt]

the plane eater on Worcester is in AL

the twin 40mm bofors

[vague token]

why isnt there a single tube torpedo with like a less than 10 second shot time

;)

[vagrant veldt]

they messed up the art

[sharp wing]

Single tubes are on subs

[dusk bridge]

@elder crane my gear isn't optimal on defense fleet right now since I'm using gold radar and beaver for farming. Also my team sucks for defense but I haven't had to reset against the meta stuff when attacking so

[vague token]

for destroyers ;)

or vanguards i should say

for On Torpedo Launch builds

i can kinda understand planes because of lol those heals

but id still like a fast blue plane with bad stats that has like under 6 take off time

base

the 76mm is about half the mle (.67 vs 1.6)

so keeping that ratio of speed

a torpedo would have like 12 base or so

and a dive bomber would be like around 6?

(with a single 100 pound bomb lol)

[sharp wing]

Well, as far as that deviation goes, we have Fulmar and you cannot hope for anything more

[vague token]

the fulmar's ratio isnt that good

it's like 9.8

compared to hecc divers 11.88

that is not even close to the 76mm

compared to the mle

[sharp wing]

There won't be same ratios across different gear

[vague token]

yeah but it makes On Take Off builds tough

or On Torpedo

i want some interesting choices

;)

heck even the 283mm bb gun

isnt fast enough to warrant it's damage

[sharp wing]

it's heck, not gun

[vague token]

xD

hilariously the mikasa gun is both weaker

and slower

than the triple 283

bb version

[sharp wing]

Mikasa is fcking 1800s ship

Grandma guns

also you can't +10 that

so

rather difference

[vague token]

i mean

you cant +10 the 76mm

it's still the fastest thing

xD

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

@dusk bridge yeah, that was my thought
Monarch's a lot better with positioning choice advantage, ofc offense straight damage advantages, and also BB secondaries advantage
You defs can get away with a lot

[sharp wing]

By +0 stats Mikasa gunh is fastest

[vague token]

but yeah we could use some reaaaally weird stuff

instead of just like

questionable

or outright bad

[sharp wing]

I mean, early on i used my +6 twin 356 and i was happy

[vague token]

i mean

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

we all go through that phase

we see our ships

and we give em the blue guns

and we smile

for we were innocent

/unless you came from JP

[sharp wing]

nah, we just had no purp plates

[dusk bridge]

@elder crane also you putting hiryuu vs monarch makes it much weaker, since i use monarch to nuke amagi when attacking

[sharp wing]

So some blue +6 without access to purp plates were BiS

[buoyant parrot]

NightRaven Guild 37/38 Rec+80 Player^^

[sharp wing]

peeveepee guild

all ships of her time ran on coal

[vague token]

mikasa costs 0 oil to use

10/10 best pve ship

xD

would be funny

[sharp wing]

Inb4 you buy coal for her

[elder crane]

@dusk bridge
Yeah, that's what I mean by positioning advantage
Placing Hiryuu opposite Monarch both mitigates her offensive capabilities, and her defensive potential.

[dusk bridge]

yep

honestly most of the meta fleets ive fought with my team havent even been able to sink any of my backliners

i remember fighting a team with sheffield that i reset tested against and 10/10 times i didnt lose a backliner

[shy hazel]

the future of meta pvp is all about positioning lol

position hiryuu kai vs despadido kai

[dusk bridge]

i forget who uses sheff in here but i recognized the name

[shy hazel]

etc etc

alot of ppl here use sheff

[sharp wing]

masochists

[vague token]

sheff is a good girl

[sharp wing]

[dusk bridge]

yeah i dont really see the merit to using her tbh. she gets popped instantly against torp heavy vanguard

along with juneau most of the time

[vague token]

sheff works better than belfast the longer the match goes

[sharp wing]

On def sure

[vague token]

better for attacker

because you die slower

[sharp wing]

she works better on attack

[vague token]

also makes attack ykk ultra tanky

[sharp wing]

My Junie tank on attack doesn't die 1/5 times, lol

[vague token]

you use box bulge to be fair

;)

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

pearl boiler always dies ;)

[sharp wing]

You sadistic shitkican

[vague token]

look i need her to die before lead sanrui ok

[sharp wing]

So, who is real saint, Saint or Junie

[vague token]

doesnt always work still

yes

4 bps from dev 28 though

[sharp wing]

mine dev 16

[vague token]

how many general we have in event shop again?

[sharp wing]

30 as usual

[vague token]

oh then should be close to done then

after those

yay

xD

[sharp wing]

I haven't farmed event yet to have points

[hot creek]

still got a wayyyys to go even at dev 28

[vague token]

havent had enough time

[hot creek]

• 30 BP

[vague token]

still on c2 lol

[sharp wing]

b1

[vague token]

im just gonna 3 star hard lol

[buoyant parrot]

damn... I just woke up

[vague token]

for the safe mode

[sharp wing]

You don't need 3* for safe

[buoyant parrot]

and I have a lot of programming work to do... D2 will be a slow run today

[vague token]

dont feel down etherst, cyaneko is just a god

you do

for unlocked movement

[sharp wing]

oh wait

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

clearing you mean?

[vague token]

yeah

sorry

[sharp wing]

Cause safe is danger lvl

[vague token]

i meant that

[buoyant parrot]

currently starting my B1 just now

[sharp wing]

for safe danger lvl only clear needed

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

so

what is the most efficient fleet

tell now or die

[vague token]

no u

[sharp wing]

I'll go commit Seppuku

[vague token]

[buoyant parrot]

I'll tell you when I get my ass to D2

[vague token]

im just using biscuit and minne

[buoyant parrot]

oh perfect timing... I need to Lv my Minnie

[elder crane]

I'm using Baga/Juneau, with 0LB mahans and shouhou support/padding
hopefully I can drop shouhou once safe danger level

[buoyant parrot]

speaking of Blue, forgot to officially welcome you to our guild lol

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

im using monarch minnie rn

[elder crane]

Already have clearing mode siren farm macro setup at least

[shy hazel]

well

[vague token]

what, a macro?

[buoyant parrot]

don't forget to hammbite

[elder crane]

oh yeah, thanks for taking me in

[vague token]

cheater bois

[shy hazel]

if u follow jp peole

[vague token]

jk

[buoyant parrot]

[shy hazel]

they kill bosses

cos they said bosses has more chnce to drop

my problem is boss fleet

[elder crane]

ehh idk about that

[vague token]

i thought elites were always a boosted drop?

[buoyant parrot]

feels bad Zack left, he use to be in our guild unfortunately he went other server

[elder crane]

no, normal chances but access to boss drops

[vague token]

oh

[elder crane]

but I think 3 siren gives better rates on oil or time than full clears

you need 3 more mob fights and ofc Boss is more expensive to beat

[sharp wing]

Ppl said Boss has higher droprate, than sirens tho

[vague token]

right

[shy hazel]

id just folo what they say

[elder crane]

yeah, boss better rate, but idk if 3 more mob clears and expensive boss fleet is worth it

[shy hazel]

i still have 60k to farm anyways

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

I still need farm points too

[hot creek]

unless the chance of boss drop is like x4 the rate then its not worth. Also Iriya senpai told us to farm sirens and I trust him more than JP randos

[elder crane]

points though is legit argument

[vague token]

well, i will need the event currency xD

[elder crane]

plus any "dumb" siren strat will be slow

[vague token]

cause i wont have as many attacks :)

[elder crane]

so i'll be manually doing full clears when I'm actively farming, and siren farming when I'm not

[buoyant parrot]

well I could create a screen macro software that will check any silver pixel to click into

assuming silver pixels are normal ship

[elder crane]

that's sooo much effort

[buoyant parrot]

could also do black pixels for sirens

I just don't know how fast will it recognize and click on it

[sharp wing]

use usual mousebot with pixel recognition

[vague token]

macros are cheating jk

[elder crane]

plus you'll need to go in manually to clear dock so it's limited in usefulness

[buoyant parrot]

"IT IS NOT A CRIME IF YOU DON'T GET CAUGHT"

[vague token]

xD

[buoyant parrot]

[vague token]

ill rename ships after anyone who gets banned

o7

[sharp wing]

You cannot get banned for that tho

Even if they try

[elder crane]

mods only come in here if ppl snitch

[buoyant parrot]

[vague token]

lol

[elder crane]

last time someone complained in general or something that ppl were off-topic and a mod came in and warned us

[sharp wing]

wow, alive mod was in pvp?

[elder crane]

and I said, "we finally have a PvP mod!"
and he's like "lol no"

[buoyant parrot]

it was an ancient time Sagitary

[sharp wing]

3 minutes of Glory?

[vague token]

that was a long time ago

lol

[sharp wing]

lol

[elder crane]

that was like 2 days ago, no?

[buoyant parrot]

I think that that was in the paleozoic era

[elder crane]

less than a week for sure, I think

[vague token]

i missed that one

[sharp wing]

me too

I don't read backlog more than 1 screen anyway

[vague token]

same unless i get a mention

[sharp wing]

Mentions do suck xd

I pretend to be offline all time

[vague token]

eh they arent that bad

i usually only get mentioned by someone asking me to attack ;)

so it's fine

collusion bois

[elder crane]

"It was literally posted in # gameplay-help , so I went to check what's up"
from Restart, last Tuesday

[sharp wing]

well, i mean in all servers overall

[vague token]

oh

to both of those Oh

yeah i missed that

was busy on tues

i thought the only mod who showed up here was syanda since he actually kinda pays attention to rushing

[elder crane]

someone was all like,
"They're talking about research projects in PvP!"

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

I posted a database/tierlist and maybe(?) got unofficially warned

which is

[sharp wing]

lmao

[vague token]

oof

your sacrifice is noted

o7

[buoyant parrot]

I get warned occasionally~

I like to live dangerously

[shy hazel]

dont ask me

[elder crane]

At least you aren't Assman

[shy hazel]

if u see all my warnings

[buoyant parrot]

this too

[shy hazel]

its all tier 0 warnings

[sharp wing]

I got warned for some lewd hint in sandy general

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

that guy's been on mute in-game near-permanently lately

[shy hazel]

You have been warned in Azur Lane Official. Reason:

Toxic comment towards developers

[buoyant parrot]

[sharp wing]

OwO

[elder crane]

I think people keep reporting Assman for his username

[shy hazel]

You have been warned in Azur Lane Official. Reason:

repeated toxic and disparaging comments with intent to incite others

[elder crane]

which hilariously after UI update is now censored by filter

[sharp wing]

LMAO

[buoyant parrot]

last warning I got

[shy hazel]

devs are potatoes and the coding is spaghetti

and they get offended if i post that

actually

[elder crane]

But is kept as-is as Assman, grandfathered in I suppose

[sharp wing]

N S F W

[shy hazel]

funny ppl

[buoyant parrot]

[vague token]

[elder crane]

I don't think you can set your username to Assman anymore

[sharp wing]

ass wasn't censored before UI update

many things wasn't

and now it's hilarious, how many things are censored for no obvious reason

[elder crane]

ass was, but assman isn't, iirc

[buoyant parrot]

ahh no wonder when I typed Massaschusetts its M**s

[sharp wing]

you could freely type ass

[elder crane]

cause of the old filter limitations

[sharp wing]

in game chat

At least as wordpart

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/DMe3p/a56311149d.png worth?

[elder crane]

old filter only censored if it was last part or had whitespace after

[buoyant parrot]

I'd do that in a heart beat

[elder crane]

so "Mass" was but "Massa" wasn't

or "Mass." (or any punctuation)

[sharp wing]

I just did that but for ch11

[elder crane]

and ofc there's the unicode methods as well

which still work

Also lately I think the devs gave up on removing nuke codes from ship pages

[sharp wing]

that thing gives a lot equip bps but few ship bps tho

lol

[elder crane]

well, not really
2.2 PR ship, 1.83 PR EQ, 2.7 Gold Eq from last time I updated my data

this is including bonus ofc

[sharp wing]

well, it gave me 1.5 row of equip bps and 1 or 2 ship bps

[elder crane]

bad luck to you I suppose

[buoyant parrot]

did anyone notice the animation for the Nep gun when equipped to BB is sooo fast its unrecognizable that it's firing...

[elder crane]

or good luck, since that's above average eq bp drops

[buoyant parrot]

it looks like its not firing because the animation is soo fast

[sharp wing]

idk, looks fine for me

[buoyant parrot]

its sooo weird

[elder crane]

if you used the twin152AP it's not much different from that

in terms of snappiness feeling

[buoyant parrot]

I recall someone yesretday saying that their nep gun in nagato is noty firing

[sharp wing]

idk

[buoyant parrot]

it is firing its just that ITS SOOOOOO ridiculously fast

[elder crane]

especially if you have a skin that makes it blend in it can be hard to spot

just like the 152AP

[buoyant parrot]

ahh maybe that's it

[elder crane]

I usually look for the blue damage popups since Nepgun and Amagi barrage are the only AP damage on my team

that's much easier to spot

and ofc Amagi barrage is unmistakable and so won't be confused

[ionic magnet]

its doing atleast 3k dmg in a match from my observation

[elder crane]

Yep, matches mine too

[shell heron]

mmmm full 120 oathed namayuu

[vague token]

im sure if i bothered to 120 my hiryuu she'd hit 200 affection xD

[shell heron]

I mean I'm 120ing my Junie and 200 affinity is a pain to do

[vague token]

i mean, with no dorm xp it should hit 200 by 120

xD

just by sheer volume of fights

but vanguard is ugh so

[shell heron]

not using dorms it would be pretty easy to get 200 aff by the time they're lvl 120

but it's Junie and Hiryuu we're talking about here

how often do we use them outside of pvp

[vague token]

i just mean it isnt THAT bad (to go to sleep in 7-2 for the rest of our lives)

it's bad

but not like

super bad

could always be better of course

xD

[odd schooner]

Isn't nep gun like 3 shells stuck with each other forming a triangular shape

[dusk bridge]

getting close

[vague token]

they converge

it isnt a fixed triangle

it does weird things at longer ranges

so it isnt that great with biscuit i think

[shell heron]

so that's the firing pattern of the nepgun. It locks on to a targets last location and converges the shots there

[vague token]

give or take

[cerulean estuary]

list didnt move for me , seems thery are all busy farming / spamming D2

[vague token]

xD

[odd schooner]

That name

[cerulean estuary]

5 pcs of single 138.6mm is enough? or spam until it break ur mind and gadget?

[sharp wing]

5 pcs that's rich

[ionic magnet]

and here i am just aiming for two lol

[sharp wing]

I remember my average 4 bps in 60k points

And don't even have any wish

[ionic magnet]

welp im out

forgot i still have 2 charges left

[vague token]

?

aww

rip

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

the gun farm has taken you

o7

[ionic magnet]

yea lol

[vague token]

it's always "next season for real"

xD

[ionic magnet]

still got 2 only kek

[vague token]

im still on c3 xD

been busy

and about to sleep

lo

[midnight heron]

i got 10 bps

but its purple ones

[vague token]

=(

[odd schooner]

@balmy torrent here's your luck back from Juneau

Hmm

There's more time to camo out this reset

[lunar veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231050113039073281/594495127850975284/tempFileForShare_20190629-195109.jpg

👀

[ionic magnet]

[modern tree]

I hate this lineup not because its bad, but because no matter how you set it up, you are wasting one barrage

I think I'd still run Warspite flag, with KGV top and Monarch bot

instead of this

[lunar veldt]

Ye

But 120 kgv 👀 u don't really see that much

[modern tree]

KGV has to fight Monarch for pve flagship and its not something she can win

which makes her rare

[ionic magnet]

ppl are just still too busy levelling their mains and they are lazy to use ships that are not properly tested yet

but yea monarch flag is questionable there when ws/kgv can benefit more at middle

[modern tree]

I sort of get it because putting KGV flag wastes Monarchs damage on hitting Warspites target. So its really only this or WS flag. This has some advantage of Monarch using her heal/reload buff most efficently since she will be eating Nagato barrage and Ryuusei bombs, but with her 0 luck it's probably bad.

[ionic magnet]

mm makes sense

that lineup can be very versatile in terms of positioning now that i think about it

depends on dmg output ofc ill have to see it first

[shy hazel]

one less competitor

hooloo has dropped from the race

[ionic magnet]

i'll be back next season

[fathom phoenix]

i am so fukn sick of temporary immortality skills

[shy hazel]

im not in next season

flying to japan on last 3 days of the season

so might as well skip the whole of it

[shell heron]

Oh, I might get my 30s of glory this season the next

[elder crane]

And... It is complete!
(aurora and Baga next, for testing)

At least event maps are easy enough for Jun

[vague token]

/applause

you did it!

[vague token]

how so?

oh

[modern tree]

I have 1 BP so far : )

[vague token]

[elder crane]

2 for me

without even safe danger level yet

[stark raft]

2 Bp 15k points

VDiR flashbacks

[elder crane]

well now that I'm at safe I can start testing my siren farming setup

[modern tree]

I might need to stop farming points and just go for bps because my only drop was from sirens and I am dumping like 100 more oil per run for no reason

[elder crane]

yeah, it's about twice the chances for drop, doing boss too - but 3 more mob clears and the boss clear cost to boot

no way it's worth, BP/oil-wise

[stoic skiff]

They could put bp for 138.6mm in the various milestones

[ionic magnet]

im not sure about spamming sirens

i only got 1 so far from 51 sirens

and 3 from 17 bosses

small sample size so

[stoic skiff]

You can do 1:1 in D2?

[modern tree]

yea

[stoic skiff]

How tho

[modern tree]

Nagato Nep for trash, Doy Sheff Z46 for boss

[stoic skiff]

🤔

[modern tree]

I am using Nagato only because shes missing some exp, I'd use Amagi otherwise

wait

BB req

I would not

dont have oil/time to level JB rn

[stoic skiff]

My idea was Bismarck, Uni (until safe maybe), Z1 and Z23 for mobs and boss idk

[vague token]

xD

more food for sanrui, gotta bulk up to kill the heretics

need a like, deus vult emote for sanrui ;)

[elder crane]

oops edge case of elite drop, need to fix that

hopefully I'll have stuff setup before I need to leave

[buoyant parrot]

my luck isn't giving me a good result... I'm already at my 7k oil still 2 BP @ D2...

[elder crane]

gaaah lagspike
guess I'll add a few s to all the times

[coral wren]

Anyone knows how many barrage shells can monarch land on each side from the middle?

[elder crane]

iirc it was RNG but around average 1 per Daxam knows a lot more than I do about this

[modern tree]

Monarch has never randomly landed more than 1 shell on flag when shes on flank

it's also rare

You basically cant rely on her hitting flanks and even if you could she has 0 luck and is probably fighting Amagi (miss). Her damage against Heavy Armour is not that impressive either way (which is what you will see on flag like 80% of the time)

[vague token]

eww d1 800 evade requirement

but i dont wanna use more boats

xD

[elder crane]

wait what
Monarch barrage is one of the best for vs Heavy, she loses like ~4% of dmg output on barrage for Heavy vs Med iirc
Which is a lot less than the ~1/3 lost for Amagi/Nagato

I just padded w 0LB mahans for eva reqs

[modern tree]

maybe my impression is from Flag always holding beaver badge

people are not geared with PR wheel on everything yet

[elder crane]

Yeah, most of the ppl who think about it put more Eva on flag
and so that's probably why you feel Monarch does a lot less on Flag, rather than the armor diff

[modern tree]

0 luck

[stark raft]

Wdym, my monarch has 1 luck atm

[elder crane]

I think one of my taps is misaligned
having trouble figuring out which one
or maybe the lag is misaligning map drags

time to close everything but the emulator I suppose

well just gotta hope it works now, gtg

[stark raft]

Eva stack on namahiryuu gonna be a thing?

[modern tree]

evasion stack is net more gain than shells or w/e according to MATH

[vague token]

i think rudder/shell was ok?

blue did the math

[modern tree]

ergo, PR wheel +sg/fcr is generally better unless you are Warspite or have some synergy with crits like Bisquit

[vague token]

farther back

[stark raft]

Will people on EN even put the washing machine in their pvp backline though except for a few

[modern tree]

I already have one. It probably doest matter because I am just using HMS for def

[stark raft]

Id prolly put my washing machine on nep anyway for offence cus I want acc for backline

and def fleets are memes

[vague token]

id put one on the backline if i didnt have to put one on saint louis and minne

xD

[wicked rivet]

I put my washing machin on ibuki

Second one is going on amagi tho

Soon™

[hot creek]

i think i might just skip getting le triophant from exchange lol

[vague token]

what are you buying o.o, general bps? xD

[modern tree]

this event is entirely skipable past mle farm

[sharp wing]

No waifu is skipable

[modern tree]

the art for every ship with the exception for maybe Dunkirk is so bad

[sharp wing]

Dunk is bae

Tho it's about her personality

[vague token]

yes

her personality

[sharp wing]

Cooking w/ Dunk

[vague token]

[modern tree]

I genuinely believed JB has half of her face burned off until I pulled her from gatcha and looked at her up close. It made sense to me too

[vague token]

o.o

[sharp wing]

Massa makes good addition to my choco collection

[vague token]

more south dakota class bbs

please

[sharp wing]

And surcoaf

[modern tree]

Scrouf is made of squares. Why is she so low poly

[sharp wing]

That's 1 sub i wanted. for reasons

Would be fun if they gave surcoaf floatplane like IRL

She was also submarine carrier

[vague token]

she gets a CA gun instead

for some reason

xD

[sharp wing]

and biggest sub before Japanese built their i-400 w/ 3 floatplanes hangar

So she is pretty "big" for reasons

[vague token]

is her gunnery even good lol

[sharp wing]

eh

[vague token]

im guessing she's worse than all gold subs

but better than the other purples?

[sharp wing]

how much surface tme she get's lol

[vague token]

her skill gives boosted surface time

12 extra

and i think her gun is fast

[sharp wing]

IDK i wouldn't skill that

TBH surface time is just Suicide Time for subs

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

I'd prefer to keep that at lvl 1 prolly

At least till she isn't 100+

[vague token]

actually she does have good hp for a sub?

[sharp wing]

hmmm

[vague token]

i think?

[sharp wing]

let's see

[vague token]

2300 at 100

20 evade though

[sharp wing]

Surcoaf has highest hp pool

I-13 sub carrier second w/ 200 less

well, at lvl 100 diff is much less

surc has 120 fp too at 100

more than many DDs lol

I actually wonder, I-13 can only launch plane when she's surfaced?

submerged plane launching would be some high-tech stuff

[modern tree]

she launches plane when she surfaces

[sharp wing]

Well, that's logical

So it's nothing better, than gun

and she actually gets +1 plane

Maybe w/ Core floatplane w/ 1600 bombs

but going that far...

Oh, i just noticed core floatplane got sub skill

Probably that's gotta be real thing

[vague token]

why would you use it outside of a sub carrier lol

[sharp wing]

Well, it's still best plane for BBV

as well

compared to regular floatplanes

[vague token]

oh ok

helicopter sub when

;)

[sharp wing]

500 bomb on regular vs 1600 on core

Also i think that is only t0 purple equip in game

isn't it t3

ah ye t0

i thought type 91 t3 and type 1 t0

[vague token]

gold skyrocket when jk

[sharp wing]

t-1

skyrocket w/ bombs

w/ rockets

Oh. many of core purple stuffs t0

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

all, aside from avenger plane

[safe meteor]

whats the best aux gun for Bismarck actually?

[modern tree]

tbtsk

[safe meteor]

nothing better?

[modern tree]

You generally will either use Tbtsk or Belgun depending on wether you care about hitting things harder or having FP. Nepgun has way too much scatter and other guns blow

[safe meteor]

nepgun is the golden research gun?

[modern tree]

Yeah. The scater is not as bad when used by CLs, but at 90 range you barely hit anything

[safe meteor]

right

this is for both pvp, and pve?

[modern tree]

I am not sure what I'd use for pvp because on offense opponents VG might be close enough to use Nepgun to some effect

Since other BBs use it and they are fine

[safe meteor]

thanks

ill just gona try those gun, to see what works best

[modern tree]

So the above is pve mostly I guess. pvp you'd want Nepgun, cuz like I said, other BB's shoot the VG with it just fine

[safe meteor]

does the new golden destroyer gun replace a lot of old destroyer gun setups?

[modern tree]

Its the best DD gun to use as aux and has the best single target dps, on top of giving straight FP

You want as many as you can afford to farm

since they are restricted to this event only, for some bizarre reason

Actually, MIGHTY PVP CHAT, TODAY I HAVE A QUESTION, NOT JUST ANSWERS: Has someone tried running Random Word Generator on solo CV and how good was it

[vague token]

i use RWG on sara since it showed up lol

helps her guns miss less and landing those burn torpedoes

dunno if it is quantifiable though

also helps her EHP a lot since her base hp is so high

and dive bomb hit rate boost is nice

[sharp wing]

wasn't planes unaffected by ship luck/acc tho

I know they get fixed 50? luck no matter what carrier launches them

what about acc

probably bombs acc also fixed

[stark raft]

Jun/Nep/Yuki who would you put pearl on

Nep has been outliving nanoda

[sharp wing]

lol

[modern tree]

Juneau, no joke

[sharp wing]

saint/nep comps apparently give pearl to Jun

[stark raft]

Nep over sheff is such a huge improvement

[modern tree]

just put nep front, Nep will outlive juneau either way

[sharp wing]

Esp since they are actually valuable to keep alive

[hot creek]

im not a fan of putting Nep in front

[vague token]

my sanrui still randomly dies before pearl/boiler juneau

at 118 for both

with beaver rudder xD

[sharp wing]

lol

Might as well use Junie tank setup then

[vague token]

i mean her death time mid is still good fpr backline

and ykk

[sharp wing]

Or try Saint bulge

[vague token]

is bulge better than double evade? not counting torp memes

[stark raft]

Yeah Nep is hitting her heal then Jun dies for full heals

Beautiful

[sharp wing]

Yukie torps alone probably still hurt, just look why she dies and accommodate

[vague token]

i mean sometimes you get hit sometimes you dont xD

[sharp wing]

well, 50/50 is not an option

[vague token]

double evade helps with big seven and bombs

i guess i could move beaver to nagato?

[sharp wing]

or sara

[vague token]

she has RWG xD

[sharp wing]

new meta beaver + rwg

[vague token]

i want a 2nd RWG xD

more radars for everyone

[sharp wing]

I think later on you will swap homing beacon + aviation gasoline anyways

[vague token]

which one is beacon?

[sharp wing]

air strike cooldown reduction

[vague token]

wasnt it like 5% lol

[sharp wing]

4%, but active all time, not only 1st strike

[vague token]

i mean, 4% of 21 is like, .8 seconds

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

sounds like a waste

[sharp wing]

same as puting fast planes

[vague token]

double comet cuts 2 seconds

[sharp wing]

hecckdivers + beacon pretty good

[vague token]

i dont have akagi so

[sharp wing]

Not like you see heckdivers on Akaga much anyway

since 2planes and Kaga low eff

28?

[vague token]

owo

[sharp wing]

He said he was close to 30 w/ event bps

will be close

my sanrui is 16

I'm still mostly doing free/clear/plates

Still lacking 2 event build ships...

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

I've got ton of retrofits halted due to gold as well, so i have a lot of gold sink outside projects

[finite valve]

a reminder to max all of your french guns before they hot fix this shit

https://trello.com/c/yJaSLhMN/947-t3-parts-cost-for-single-1386mm-dont-match-en-costs

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[stoic skiff]

At least one from the shop

[finite valve]

3 sirens spawn point = can't even farm using macro

zzz

[sharp wing]

I don't have plates atm anyway after maxing pr guns

[vague token]

same

[sharp wing]

Hmm, doesn't let me post screenshots anymore

[vague token]

i maxed the one from shop

[sharp wing]

Bot

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

any1 have this issue lol

[modern tree]

they arent copypasting cn code

this is cn client with en overlay

: )

[sharp wing]

At 1st weren't we actually using JP assets

So it can't be CN client

Now they just copypaste parts of CN code

were ye

[modern tree]

Data Definitions do not have to be stored on client

[stark raft]

they aren't done translating it

[modern tree]

You can force client to sync data definitions on login. Yes, we are using EN data definitions. No, it does not mean this is en client

[sharp wing]

With some Cn copypaste

Actually they announced it was discounted to upgrade

for period

Probably

Cause it's EN

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

They though figuring it out will take too long to make in time, lol

[vague token]

i thought that was an actual discount

[sharp wing]

Well, officially it was

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Potato devs and lazy publishers

I'm about to get warned

[vague token]

🥔 🍝

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

dont be like me

[sharp wing]

Any1 else having problem with bot not letting post screenchot, lol

[vague token]

havent had to post one in a while so dunno

[stark raft]

well AL already bodied KC in the ship game

so they are pretty lazy now

[sharp wing]

eh

KC just outlived itself by now

[vague token]

no 2nd tier retro in al yet though

;)

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

also the whole not releasing an EN version or just translate the fucking UI also help in their demise

also region block

[sharp wing]

Well, chrome En extension was probably what made most En ppl actually play

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

in the end kc pubs dont care tbh

they stil learned so much more than any webgame in japan

lol

unless u consider fgo as webgame

[sharp wing]

weebgame *

[finite valve]

what i learn from fgo is that i can fuck female version of any historic figure

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

a global release will be nothing but a political bomb

[finite valve]

or that big bewb are good civ?

[shy hazel]

kc is still very nationalistic

[sharp wing]

Meanwhile still no EU publisher for FGOlmao

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

700 oil only on 2 day

rip

[shy hazel]

its the right decision not to release global for kc anyways

while al doesnt have politics

[odd schooner]

33k oil for 15 prints

[sharp wing]

WoWs

[odd schooner]

[sharp wing]

RNGeses

[shy hazel]

cos its an idol game

[sharp wing]

My average event thing is 4 bp for 60k points tho

[odd schooner]

We got oil tracker lmao

[sharp wing]

15k

[stark raft]

21k oil 5 prints

Fuckoff vdir my luck is here

I don't count, desire sensor is stronk

[sharp wing]

10k 0 bps

[stark raft]

4 Boss 1 Siren if that helps though

[odd schooner]

Ye mostly it's the siren

For me

[finite valve]

grindest event that suppose to last 3 weeks event turn into a 2 weeks event

sometime i wonder if EN is stupid or what tbh

[odd schooner]

JP/CN had it for 2 weeks

KR had it 3

[finite valve]

rerun dude

JP CN are rerun so 2 weeks is understandable

[odd schooner]

I don't see le malin so not rerun for us

[finite valve]

the original run last 3 weeks

[sharp wing]

Initial was 2 weeks

[stark raft]

carrot and the stick
bait us with emile kai then cuck us

[odd schooner]

Remember sirius incident

[finite valve]

eh that was a rerun

[finite valve]

our iris is original not a rerun

[sharp wing]

original

2 weeks

[odd schooner]

We're on og run so only 2 weeks

[sharp wing]

Where tf you found 3 weeks?

In the 1st palce

[finite valve]

on the internet
not wiki ofc

[sharp wing]

Lmao

[odd schooner]

You clicked rerun

[sharp wing]

rerun and original both 2 weeks

for CN/JP

[odd schooner]

It's ok dude, we'll suffer on this together

[sharp wing]

Only KR had 3 weeks original

[stark raft]

siren farming might give more bp cause you need to retreat

silly frenchies

[finite valve]

problem is you need to reach 60k or 100k first

after that comes the siren farm

[sharp wing]

just do 10k for Emile

and don't bother

[stark raft]

I was taking a jab at the french, but thanks guys

[sharp wing]

60k is pointless, not worth 1 bulin for 5k

55k at best

[hot creek]

You only sink a girl in KC if you're careless. In my three years of playing, I never sunk one. Game wouldn't have done well if it had a global release anyways though. Gameplay is counter intuitive and too hardcore for casuals. I never recommended it seriously to any of my friends. I tell them to enjoy the doujins, don't play the game

[sharp wing]

KC is Dark souls in disguise in web version

[finite valve]

problem with KC is the fucking event

hard mode is hell

[sharp wing]

And even you enjoy KC and return to it from timre to time, you can never recommend it xD

Unless you really hate some1

[finite valve]

KC = res management

in no way is that game a ship girl game

[sharp wing]

It's doujins mat source

[stark raft]

AL has superior doujins now anyway

[sharp wing]

AL is waifu collector game anyway

[hot creek]

lol no way in hell AL has superior doujins

[sharp wing]

[hot creek]

its all shota and all the same top five girls

[sharp wing]

I call mods on you

Well, give it same lifespan of KC

You might see variety

Also there so many games nowadays compared back at KC time

[stark raft]

yeah and kancolle has a futa shimakaze

[sharp wing]

That's artist don't focus on 1

[stark raft]

so yes, AL does have better doujins and also pixivs

[sharp wing]

I bet GFL has like 3x Al doujins amount

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

SO can't tell from own experience

[finite valve]

gfl still got the same issue as AL

only same girls across all doujin

[sharp wing]

well, maybe

AL has many artists from GFL

[odd schooner]

There's always tohou

[sharp wing]

Some ships are copies of girls from GFL

|Like Choukai

[finite valve]

touhou is a cult not a fan base lel

[sharp wing]

[sharp wing]

[odd schooner]

There's less ppl pushing this time

[finite valve]

wonder if it is even possible to even farm 2 full set of french gun

[odd schooner]

Going all out d2

[finite valve]

well yeh cus french gun

lel

optimal i would say 9 guns
okish is 6

wonder if anyone can manage lel

[sharp wing]

[odd schooner]

I would assume 4 is safest

[sharp wing]

Well, looking at some ppl RNG maybe

[odd schooner]

Juneau, Nagato,Amagi and San Diego

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

well think of it this way he got lucky early

going to drop off during event

[sharp wing]

More like, Lucky stays lucky, and unlucky well...

Use Takos

[finite valve]

well just be glad that the gun is not really "needed" in pvp

silver lining

[stark raft]

Just let her take the mood hit if she's maxed. Not like she'll leave you

[sharp wing]

well, Jun AA already stellar

not like it changes anything

tbh i wn't even use it in pvp

well 15 fp boost at her FP lvl is more than aa boost

That volume might actually be good for shield strapping too

[vague token]

any 70% aux gunner should be ok

[sharp wing]

i use 120 as aux anyway

Port very high aa for ca

[shell heron]

Atlanta Class AA

[odd schooner]

Very high on vanilla stats tbh

[shell heron]

But I've been trying the 138 on Junie for PvP. Not much of a difference

[ionic magnet]

the new gun is really good at killing VGs actually

[sharp wing]

Port has highest AA of all Cas

[ionic magnet]

as BB aux

[stark raft]

You prefer baguette over 127 on hood?

[finite valve]

only matter if you are using wasd

if you are losing the VG battle as mirror cancer

you already lost

[ionic magnet]

yea switched on hood cos why not

more dps is more dps

[vague token]

hood already has plenty of aa anyways

[modern tree]

Hood is old and needs all FP that you can cheat out

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

[stark raft]

Needs reading glasses for acc tbh

[finite valve]

more like using hood in the first place

[ionic magnet]

20k oils down and only 4 BPs

smh

[finite valve]

well you still got rerun

[vague token]

i just use biscuit for clearing nowadays

xD

[ionic magnet]

im at 250 oil per run

levelling pvp VGs

[vague token]

i gotta use juneau for this d2 AA stat requirement lol

since she's 118 might as well

[shell heron]

her 400+ AA will help

[vague token]

and double air radar dork