pvp

[coral wren]

Another powercreep for ijn, that's nice

[elder crane]

that and maybe cause dev20 gives the second star

[sharp wing]

powercreep shall live on

[elder crane]

so it's otherwise very difficult to tell what devlv she is

well, maybe not very diff, but defs annoying

[sharp wing]

At least Azuma gun not decisive, that would be another cockblock, lol

[coral wren]

Well, i do pray for qe to get her retrofit/redesign to be equal to those 2 ijn buffers combined

[sharp wing]

Inb4 it never happens

[coral wren]

inb4 japs get another busted unit

[sharp wing]

How busted can busted get

[coral wren]

And then another one

And another one, untill pvp becomes playable only with that furry faction

[sharp wing]

Oni>furry

We need OP Onies

[coral wren]

Finally someone woke up

[sharp wing]

I refresh each hr and nothing

Also it's mostly lvl50-60 today....

[coral wren]

YOu should be really lucky to get a lonely rusher after reset and not a sandbagger

[sharp wing]

Well, i sleep few hrs after reset

Can't really hunt for rushers

[coral wren]

I think it's better to reset 15-30 mins right after global reset if noone moves

[sharp wing]

Probably

Not gonna wake up for that in the middle of sleep tho

[elder crane]

I do it every 10 mins for the first half-hour

2 resets and 1 match done regardless of climb status

well, when I can time-wise, can't do that much anymore these days

[coral wren]

Hm, i'll try that one, thx for the tip

[steep fog]

I just rushed all my attempts

[modern tree]

Tfw sharks could have been Azuma but their gun blows

[wicked rivet]

oof

[steep fog]

im 10/25 of my 2nd rudder

[wicked rivet]

same but not quite 10

probly like 5

20/25 on a staag

[midnight heron]

leet af

[vague token]

lol

[grave gale]

getting 120 right away

[modern tree]

time to lose all the money

awakening for lvl 120 is gonna take a lot of fucking coins

[finite valve]

80k for 5 SR

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

oh god im not ready

[finite valve]

just lvl them to 115

and slowly work to 120

[vague token]

xD

[finite valve]

at least we going to know who the whale are with 120 coming

[sharp wing]

Or rather tryhard

I already cut down on research for development unlock...

[hot creek]

ah fuck

120 so soon

[vague token]

two days

[hot creek]

I got no 120 VG.

[vague token]

xD

[hot creek]

well except for 119 juneaulul

[vague token]

my closest to 120 is 1.5m sara

i think amagi is around 1.3m

[finite valve]

jesus can be at 110

need the other to be at 120

[modern tree]

is it time to flex?

[hidden wyvern]

https://i.imgur.com/vO8Yzlx.png

[vague token]

dear god o.O

[finite valve]

well having exp is good but the bottle neck is still gold tho

doubt anyone here have 80k gold save up

lel using mail for lvl break

i save those for french gun

not on some stupid lvl break

[vague token]

whelp back to farming more

cry as my oil melts

xD

[finite valve]

not saving oil for w12

lel

[vague token]

well, there's always ;)

kek

same

[hot creek]

having internet connection issues as im finishing pvp

[raw osprey]

[hot creek]

thank goodness for mobile

[finite valve]

so aside from dax is anyone here NOT going to lvl cancer?

[vague token]

i mean

amagi and nagato are useful in pve too

[raw osprey]

Juneau 110-120

[vague token]

so it's not like it's a waste

how many attacks are you at xD

[hot creek]

my QE, WS, Monarch and Hood have 120 xp

[raw osprey]

https://gyazo.com/883c7137f57d08ff9d78a62cdab92173

[vague token]

that feels low unless you've ignored a lot of the others lol

xD

like not bothered with anyone else outside of whoever you actively use

[raw osprey]

Ye no way i play Juneau pve

Juneau is a PvP slave only

mamagi nagato 3m

[vague token]

too bad pvp xp only scales linearly

so even if you take wins off of 120s

you dont really get much more

=(

[raw osprey]

lvl 120 feels way too rushed

[hot creek]

gonna need gold from 7-2 tho

[raw osprey]

[vague token]

ill swap to 7-2 once main fleet is done probably

cause then i can skimp

[raw osprey]

https://gyazo.com/f8a3e464a9dc27ef0140e536642bd7aa

[vague token]

ykk does good damage

[raw osprey]

Nanoda 800k and Belfap 1.2m

[vague token]

just toss 2 oxys on nanoda

she should get mvps as long as you remove gear from main

xD

run like solo nevada/oklahoma or something

cheap

[raw osprey]

only do siren node for 100% MVP nanoda

oh wait

pls tell me they wont ever do lvl 130

120-125 = 10m XP

[midnight heron]

guess its time to lose pvp cuz no 120 ships ready

[raw osprey]

[vague token]

130 is a weird number

[midnight heron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vague token]

it would be awkward

[raw osprey]

im just gonna wait for retro

[midnight heron]

wat lvl is 1m xp tho

i am mou shindeiru

[raw osprey]

https://gyazo.com/f311eca4ee22dd7cf608f2f83d4f24e4

[modern tree]

time to lose because your 120 is HMS : )

[midnight heron]

yea my highest ship is 115 so rip

[hot creek]

gold req is gonna be the problem for me. though i'd be tempted to whale, its just not worth it

its fine, I also have Nagato at 120 xp and Amagi soon

[finite valve]

80k or 64k for 5 and 4 SR respectively

[hot creek]

if anything I can Namagi/Hood lmao

[raw osprey]

its that expensive?

[finite valve]

16k for 1 SR from 110 to 120

so yeh 80k or 64k for 5 and 4 SR

[raw osprey]

[hot creek]

I just hope using non oath ship vs oath isn't too impairing at 120

reason why I have HMS leveled is caused they are oathed lol

[finite valve]

only jesus is non oathed for me

not a problem since she don't need to be tanky

[raw osprey]

same

no way shes getting ring

[finite valve]

more so when she got a kai

[lament lichen]

jesus 200 affection

[finite valve]

too tanky to die

[midnight heron]

[finite valve]

ain't happen

[raw osprey]

[midnight heron]

i still havent oathed anyone maybe its time to use the free ring on juneau

[raw osprey]

[midnight heron]

[raw osprey]

better slap that ring on BB IJN loli in sleepwear asap

🔪

[finite valve]

all 4 of my rings are for the remaining 4 PR

but at least i finishing ringing everyone i need

[raw osprey]

even...?

[vague token]

lol

[finite valve]

not into loli

[raw osprey]

how can one not be into sleepwear lolis https://gyazo.com/4e2f707ee749818e4e3a0fc931d5ad0b

[vague token]

🚓

[hot creek]

maybe its time to open up all these shitty t3- gear boxes and scrap for gold

[finite valve]

not like pvp going to be full of 120 cancer day 1 lel

i give it at least 1 or 2 week

[hot creek]

true. it won't be a problem until late season

[midnight heron]

one has to expect the unexpected

either way im prepared to throw matches cuz i dont need anymore goldbulins for now

[finite valve]

same

[hot creek]

it ain't about bullins or merit. it hasn't been for a long while now. its about being NUMBAH WAN

[finite valve]

been buying bullin instead

i got a shit load of non SR need to be lb

[raw osprey]

70% of my Dock lvl 1 LB copies

[modern tree]

who plays pvp for merit lool

[finite valve]

just read your edit

[raw osprey]

u get ships faster than u can lvl 70 and max lb them

[midnight heron]

i actually did until recently

[raw osprey]

who plays pvp not for merit

[finite valve]

the ppl who already at like 1mil + merit?

[raw osprey]

how

just buy purins

[modern tree]

here, have some merit

[raw osprey]

[modern tree]

what the hell do you even do with this trash

[raw osprey]

do you never buy purins

[finite valve]

flex?

only buy when needed since dock space and all

[modern tree]

I buy all the bulins I see btw

[hot creek]

buy PR blueprints haaaaa

[raw osprey]

[vague token]

bps in merit store when

[hot creek]

never, cause that would make too much sense

[raw osprey]

buying sandy for 30k merit when?

[midnight heron]

at least put farmable gold weapon bps :>

[finite valve]

i would prefer gear bp instead of PR bp

PR bp going to be useless at some point

gear bp you can't never have enough

[vague token]

i mean so is eldridge and sodak

it's fine

[raw osprey]

calling pr bp useless but t2/3 boxes exist in pr shop

[finite valve]

merit or PR shop?

and wtf is a PR shop?

[raw osprey]

merit

[midnight heron]

wud be nice if they swapped out eld/sodak once u get them for other ssr huehuehue

[raw osprey]

put oil and gold in merit shop

[coral wren]

Does this main work well?

[finite valve]

could work vs stall comp

swap out ayaya for jesus or YKK tho

[vague token]

any strong solo carrier should be fine

hiryuu is just the best

[finite valve]

workable vs stall comp

vs foxes is instant death

[vague token]

ugh why must light build torture me so

i got a montpelier

already have her mlb

xD

[midnight heron]

yea idg how builds work

u just keep getting "rare" dupes

so they end up not being rare anymore

[raw osprey]

[coral wren]

What about this one

Ive never seen someone use mogami in pvp

How does she do

[modern tree]

Mogami hits the main super hard but she usually sinks before she gets there

shes not really worth it outside of buffing Amagi if you are using a non IJN third

[coral wren]

Hmm ok thx

[vague token]

is that nanoda lead

what a madman

[zenith tundra]

120 might turn her into a thing

u would still use washing machine on her

all u need is for her to survive long enough

[vague token]

cries in 24/25

[zenith tundra]

well im at 24/25 hope one day ill finiah it

[midnight heron]

i wud hav one if the game allowed real world imports

[zenith tundra]

[vague token]

ooooof

[zenith tundra]

that's low

[midnight heron]

oh i got nepu gun yesterday 😮

[vague token]

i think im close for nep gun

[midnight heron]

im definitely using it correctly

[vague token]

too bad there's no dps cls for pvp

so big rip

much less ap ones

xD

[modern tree]

too bad there are no subs in pvp

[zenith tundra]

neptune...

literally what u described

[hot creek]

is Neptune really dps though? unfortunate she only has mgm 1

[zenith tundra]

i'm actually curious of they changed belfast tiering in jp/cn with the pr2 cl gun. sonce the whole reason she's so under tiered is because of belgun spread

i would expect her to deal more dmg then belfast in pvp

that barrage alone is

[vague token]

[modern tree]

having Neps barrage buffed by her skill probably gives her a decent edge over Belfast

[vague token]

i mean, doesnt the barrage power account for that though

im sure they made the barrage weaker so you have to skill up to make it full power

xD

like with the Z destroyers with AP boost

[modern tree]

that sounds like a lot of foresight for those devs

[zenith tundra]

lol

[vague token]

they didnt need ap boost to bait players into using the 1 dd ap gun

but no

they could have just not put a skill

and then boosted barrage by 15%

xD

[midnight heron]

top tier jebait

[zenith tundra]

not all the shit they release is really viable... look at izumo

[vague token]

i mean

viable is different from ap skills on a destroyer

xD

[zenith tundra]

the purpose was to have z46 use ap gun i guess but with no good guns u just use skill for barrage

[vague token]

yeah, a gun with the worst armor mods in the game oh boi

really gonna do big deeps with that

[zenith tundra]

the problem is still the gun though. z46 skill should make up for any bad modifiers

115 95 65 dmg modifiers for z46 with ap gun pretty much. looks good to me

[vague token]

it's multiplicative though

it's more like 112, 87.5, 50

the lower the base the more it hurts

[modern tree]

gimping a barrage boat with a slow gun just cuz she might deal okay damage with it is silly

[vague token]

i mean they have yet to add a gold AP dd gun

xD

with hopefully actually good stats

although it's still a damage loss compared to HE on heavy lol

[modern tree]

AP is just slow on DDs

[vague token]

for w/e reason ap dd guns do reduced damage on all armor

why? who knows!

[sharp wing]

Even if they add gold AP gun w/ good stats, z46 is barrage boat w/ (homing) torps in barrage and will just have superior output w/ 100mm due to sheer power of her barrage (tho that even the case for z23 dps). It can only work on those lower rarity z-boats w/ AP skill.

The other reasonable question is why AP on DD guns have lower damage to heavy armor
and on CLs to both Heavy and Medium armor

than HE

[midnight heron]

maybe diff calibre guns idk im no gun expert

[sharp wing]

I mean, if AP low caliber guns won't penetrate Heavy armor, HE will do even less harm

[zenith tundra]

they will just meme with a rainbow dd ap gun just to make sure its op enough to be used like bb ap

[sharp wing]

I only see it work, if they make AP dd gun equivalent of 100mm

Just better, than Normal ammo...

and barrage viable

[midnight heron]

but were there any other ap dd guns used historically

[sharp wing]

Ohboi...

[zenith tundra]

not like they cant just make some prototypes

[midnight heron]

yea i just realised lul

[sharp wing]

Technically, most of small guns could use few ammunition types tho...

Like that 76mm also had AP ammo

[midnight heron]

game y u do dis (off topic)

[sharp wing]

Happens to me often...

Like 1/3 times yukie somewhy decides to die 1st

Cause RNG 0 1 damage procs

[midnight heron]

[shell heron]

ah yes, the good ol eat the whole first wave of torps and all dmg goes through

[sharp wing]

When both left ppl push same time on yr list

[sharp wing]

[rough cobalt]

amagi and hyryuu with nagato is better than my nagato and fox main fleet and now im sad

[sharp wing]

well, on offense, yr Nakaga still pretty viable against namaryuu

It's just that namaryuu most cancerous def fleet atm

I still use WasdA on offense

[rough cobalt]

i might consider me-155 for anti air

cause nakaga already overkills most defense fleets already

[cerulean estuary]

lvl 120 coming out tommorrow , pvp fleet still not have / insufficient exp for it

full lvl 120 namaryuu fleet will be more cancerous / annoying

[shell heron]

I find using namahyuu is more consistent against hiryuu. It does decently well and I get to keep the Amagi barrage to snipe down the opposing hiryuu

[rough cobalt]

lvl 120

[shy hazel]

updated meta soon

age of cas

[vague token]

yay

my favorite meta

(until azuma)

[rough cobalt]

well nakaga is the only remotely viable comp that i have

[vague token]

ive waited all my AL career for this moment

[shy hazel]

120 also means indirect nerf to cvs

[shell heron]

so my current meme def with minne and portland might actually wall someone.

still won't do damage but hey

[shy hazel]

namaga's last nail to the coffin should be hirsou refits

[rough cobalt]

any ideas on what will be best comp in 120?

[shy hazel]

namaryuu

lol

the same frontline except belfast is replaced by saint louis

[rough cobalt]

crap my hiryuu is still about lvl 70

[shy hazel]

ofc louis needs dev 25 to be effective

im grinding hms prs so louis will be out of me for awhile

heh

[stark raft]

time to give nep 4m exp

[shy hazel]

of

i mean i already unlocked all 6 prs

i mean dev levels

[stark raft]

120 came so fast

dont have enough oil to give everyone 2.3m exp

[rough cobalt]

farming for roon with 3 heavy cruisers is painful

[cerulean estuary]

limitbreaking a SSR to lvl 120 needs 1600 chips and 16,000 gold

in meta fleet today we have at least 3 or 4 SSR's so we need at least 48000 to 64000 gold

[sharp wing]

tbh exp is less wall, than resources

I had to shut in my projects just do pr 30k unlock... now also Awakenings...

[shell heron]

It's not the chips that bottlenecks me. It's always the gold

Research for sanrui bps and gear is already keeping me from ever hitting capped gold again

[shy hazel]

i dunno bout u

but i dont wannt grind the vgs

lol

[wicked rivet]

being able to do the locked daily would probly help with the gold shortage

[sharp wing]

Movement in list doesn't give any reasonable gap for bonus...

Barely enough to make some ppl move from right to left

[coral wren]

I still gotta grind out the last hundred points for Sandy-chan and nine levels for Z36 so I can MLB her and get the ring thing.

RIP me

[vague token]

oof

[sharp wing]

You got whole day ahead

OwO

[vague token]

big money

[coral wren]

WHO'S THAT POKEMON!?

[vague token]

no one

it never works

[sharp wing]

I just had to whine about coins

[vague token]

ever

but it's good gold though

xD

[zenith tundra]

it did work once tho

and ofc it was sandy

[sharp wing]

U've been blessed

[coral wren]

Oh, right. Maintenance in an hour and a half. Better burn my exercises now so I don't get burned again.

[lament lichen]

you still have a day lol

[shy hazel]

maint is in 25 30min hours

then its only 4 hrs

so no need rsh

[coral wren]

Welp. Too late.

And frankly I have no reason to believe that it'll be less than 12 hours.

[stark raft]

what pts are you fellas at

[coral wren]

591

[lament lichen]

n

[zenith tundra]

533 also almost rip season. i looked at clock and 4min left for 3 attempts

[lament lichen]

533 is pretty good still

[vague token]

qq 523

super dead lists

[zenith tundra]

i got 2 bonuses last reset 1 after 3 hrs and 1 5min left

[vague token]

nice

[zenith tundra]

[vague token]

well im 24/25 on air radar

oh boi

guess it'll be useful in 1 day

[analog hare]

alot of Namaryuu user replace Belfast with Aurora
and it sems work on defence

just my thought

[zenith tundra]

works against what?

[analog hare]

Namaryuu too

[zenith tundra]

i fought some but cannot say i was that impressed by them

[vague token]

that only works because saint louis isnt online yet

[analog hare]

yeah I can understand

[zenith tundra]

it only works because u let ur juneau die too early

[vague token]

xD

[hot creek]

Oh wow I just noticed I finally have a PR equip. https://puu.sh/DEV6K/6e8f28370f.png

[modern tree]

Aurora is actually a really good sub cuz she makes any barrage a lot more threatening for vg and losing vg before triggering Hiryuu is a lose condition

Not to mention that 20% more damage Hiryuu hitting bombs is actually decent

[ionic magnet]

i replaced my belfast for a while cos of one reason

yukikaze

works well against stall VGs but for anything else its not that good

[vague token]

xD

sleep is good for you

accept the laffey within

and drink and sleep

[true trellis]

here marks the first season in 3 months i didn't mess up my one of my first 10 battles

how can i fail so badly

[midnight heron]

time to mess up after maint

[true trellis]

[buoyant parrot]

did someone drop out of the season already? I congratulate you. You deserve a good sleep

[midnight heron]

da next 24hrs will be da last time i get to enjoy pvp till i get my ships to 120

[ionic magnet]

doubt many people can insta 120 anyways

[hot creek]

I wonder if I can get Nep to 120 by the end of the day

[elder crane]

Vast majority won't be much above 110 probably

[midnight heron]

i hav my doubts given how many ppl hav multiple pr already 😮

[ionic magnet]

i can only do 115 on my current team cos I swap around too much

[true trellis]

I can get 3 of my PVP ships to 115, but 120 no chance, maybe Yuki...
*oh wait, Amagi has 3mil stored

Hiryuu and Jintsuu aren't even 110 yet

[hot creek]

can use Phoenix as 120 VG filler for now

[zenith tundra]

i dont use namaryuu defense so easy wins against me

and i dont have money for all ships awakening

[hot creek]

I can get 40k if I open all my gear box and scrap the gear

but ill get carpal tunnel

[zenith tundra]

that is a lot of work

i'm at 72k out of 80k for my pvp team

[odd schooner]

@ionic magnet even backline?

[zenith tundra]

do u even use hiryuu or foxes for pve tho...

[odd schooner]

My gold is going to the sink with research so I'm stopping for 2 days

Like

120k monday

Now 74k

[zenith tundra]

i stopped a while ago so i could stack it up

[coral wren]

gottta save 20k for the last PR boat

well

I'm glad pvp is optional

some dude I'm sure already got all 120

[odd schooner]

[zenith tundra]

i'll level vg in pvp pretty much

[odd schooner]

Idk if I should push Belfast at all

Maybe sandy instead and wait for kai

[coral wren]

I'm waiting for sandy kai

to actually use her in maps

[zenith tundra]

imo belfast is good for pve too unless u dont like her

[coral wren]

shes just terrible

i got her to 110 doing commission

alone

[odd schooner]

She's one reason i started to play

I really like her shoes

And tiddies

[coral wren]

belfast is still super good

really

[odd schooner]

ngl

[coral wren]

i still use her in pvp

as a tech option against akaga

[odd schooner]

Ye

Ever since w9

I switched to other ships

[zenith tundra]

cant wait for pr2 gun so ahe can be t0

[odd schooner]

It's too long

[zenith tundra]

i use belfast for siren farms she gives no shit thanks to smoke

[odd schooner]

btw how is avrora top 100 last season

[zenith tundra]

i had her solo tank sp0 too

[odd schooner]

How many namaryuu, nakaga, etc

[coral wren]

we can all agree that bel is the best ship in vanilla set

[zenith tundra]

pr2 gun will make her broken

as she should be

[odd schooner]

By the time pr2 hits, we're going directly azuma

[zenith tundra]

azuma cost like a bb iirc

[odd schooner]

She's gonna ara ara the hell out of enemy backliners

[zenith tundra]

ok more then a sr bb

[hot creek]

by the time PR2 hit, ill have moved on from this game

[odd schooner]

@hot creek

[zenith tundra]

lol

[ionic magnet]

@odd schooner yea only amagi is close to 120

btw i counted top 50 in avrora 1 hr before reset

21 namaryuus 4 nakagas

1 hms 1 wasd

others are meme comps

[odd schooner]

21 wtf

[ionic magnet]

yea lol

[odd schooner]

[zenith tundra]

seems like the cancer is spreading

[ionic magnet]

doesnt even include famine and other hardcores that wait for last 5 mins

[odd schooner]

So the discussion on aurora earlier would be effective

Or does it need further testing

[ionic magnet]

VGs vary a lot tbh so im not sure abt aurora

[zenith tundra]

i always swap juneau off thank for mirrors so it doesnt change much imo

[hot creek]

aurora on namaryuu is legit

[ionic magnet]

yea really good for killing enemy ykkz

[hot creek]

belfast was never that great in namaryuu comps anyways

belfast is only for countering foxes

[zenith tundra]

idk why but yukikaze is never a problem for me. need to find better comps i guess

[hot creek]

and namaryuu curb stomps foxes anyways, with or without belfast

[cerulean estuary]

st louis can be swap to belfast i think

[zenith tundra]

if all ur vg dies in 13 sec u might want to reconsider that

[odd schooner]

@cerulean estuary you gotta work on that st and saint

[cerulean estuary]

the bad thing about mine is i focus 1st on ROON ( dev 25 now )

[odd schooner]

[zenith tundra]

why roon tho

[odd schooner]

I bet it's those defenseless thighs

[cerulean estuary]

i jump on the KMS hype wagon

[odd schooner]

Oh

[cerulean estuary]

and immediately fell off

[coral wren]

I usually use foxes for speed

[odd schooner]

[coral wren]

and swap my own namaryuu in against mirror matches

and win by 20%

[odd schooner]

Well that's how it goes right now

[coral wren]

fox vs namaryuu on attacking has like 60% win rate

[odd schooner]

I won't really rely on foxes

Too risky

Gotta mirror it down

[coral wren]

my hiryuu is not married tho

😦

[hot creek]

the only scenario where your VG gets wiped by nakaga that quickly is if you get unlucky and get too many torps. but even then you still win because that inidicates they are using meme torp and their vg is going to die by your BB secondaries soon enough leading to Backline vs Backline in which Hiryuu can just solo

[odd schooner]

She can be your mistress

[coral wren]

well on attacking nakaga can wipe frontline like 2 out of 3 times

[zenith tundra]

if u use sirius aurora juneau is not a meme torp vg and it should be plenty to kill opponent vg

[coral wren]

especially aurora

aurora is squish

but

namaryuu sucks at killing frontline

if nagato not prcs

and non-flagship amagi never hit shit

[buoyant parrot]

well my backline can be full Lv 120

except for my VG since my Juneau prolly will just be 117 or 118 or something

[coral wren]

I'm a hardcore PR grinder

[odd schooner]

Would be appropriate for pvp i guess

[coral wren]

do you guys not grind PR or sth?

[odd schooner]

A lot of them are done

[zenith tundra]

good for u u had time to level ur vg. i couldnt level shit thanks to pr

[coral wren]

well I'm done in 2 days

after that

back to grinding pvp lineup

[zenith tundra]

tbh i had time last 2 days but ended up leveling roon instead

[coral wren]

oh wait, my pvp lineup actually got some GOOD exp

except akaga

getting exp on akaga is hard

[odd schooner]

Oh storing exp

Been out a few weeks doing other game's limited time event

[coral wren]

https://tenor.com/view/traitor-star-wars-the-force-awakens-gif-7845520

[zenith tundra]

took long enough for people to move in my list

[hot creek]

wonder if anyone has a 120 dev 25 saint louis

now that would be kinda scary

dew it

what lvl she at rn

[zenith tundra]

seems like this will be my last day on en server. i'lll trade my account for a jp one soon

[trim horizon]

[zenith tundra]

i removed everyone from friend list because of that

[red nexus]

F

[steep fog]

[zenith tundra]

a change for the better imo, no longer tied to casuals speed and heavily behind in content

[odd schooner]

[coral wren]

bye

[zenith tundra]

whatever bye means

ill be in this channel till its closed for too mich off topic

[coral wren]

Worst thing to start on jp rn is that there already was the nagato rerun

[odd schooner]

He mentioned trade means there's a possibility that it has a nagato on it

[trim horizon]

better quality life

[ionic magnet]

we can have another jp tester then thats nice

[zenith tundra]

it does have amagi and nagato

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588244565761196062/588246738544885760/image0.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588244565761196062/588246771868762112/image0.png
this is what he sent me for dock

[trim horizon]

[coral wren]

👌

don't know if you have to pay him up on top of it, but there is a ready to go namayuu for you

[zenith tundra]

straight trade

[elder crane]

damn that's a nice trade if you don't mind the language barrier/don't have one

[zenith tundra]

i don't mind it tbh. i know the client well enough since i played jp already and there is always discord/wiki for stuff i don't understand

cats is worse part tbh lol

[stark raft]

119 Jesus

id say worth it

[coral wren]

Imo he is only winning. There a translations made by fans and by far more competent ppl, and not a bunch of memers aleady confessed on how they were censoring lines right after en launch. Possible troubles i can see is interface interaction if they add something new

Is there any progress on pr2 boats?

[zenith tundra]

not like u read stuff playing normally

i can farm those myself tbh i don't even mind low bps or anything

[coral wren]

Just wondering

[zenith tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588244565761196062/588245074383601664/image0.png

this is what i could see from inventory

[coral wren]

Even better, exactly 2 boats you need in future possible meta

[zenith tundra]

roon is the only pr 1 not unlocked yet

and he has enough for dev 30

[shy hazel]

that accnt looks casual

why not

lol

[zenith tundra]

does it even matter?

[shy hazel]

it does hey

[zenith tundra]

he played for 1.5 years so even casual should be good enough

[finite valve]

well at least we going to have an insider on how they do pvp there

[zenith tundra]

i'm just waiting for facebook unbind rn because my fb account doesn't work

[finite valve]

imo i don't really mind the behind content thing cus like i said many times already you going to get bored once you unlock everything be it on EN or JP

just my 2 cent anyway

[zenith tundra]

u still have to wait for new stuff. my problem is by the time we get pr2 new stuff would come out and make those useless

[shy hazel]

fb disgusting

[zenith tundra]

like how amagi and other broken ships changed it already

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i hate fb rn

[shy hazel]

i can literally jp cos its my job

but meh

lazy to move

[zenith tundra]

tbh i don't even know the server lol

[shy hazel]

names p cute

got like hawaii server

[finite valve]

it comes with the territory

[zenith tundra]

at least i can use the custom name there to put en names on ships

[elder crane]

The lack of atmosphere that comes with the language barrier is why I dropped CN for EN
Arguably that should be the best server, what with the extra player-friendly differences

[finite valve]

censored server = best server

meh

[shy hazel]

sounds fine with me

[elder crane]

well tbh I don't mind that overall

[shy hazel]

its all bout stats

[elder crane]

can't read shit anyways

and most of the time I actually prefer the "censored" images

[zenith tundra]

i spoke on my jp server in english and have to say the response wasn't the usual git good as for en chats

[shy hazel]

prinz with coat looks nicer tbh

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

the swimsuit

[finite valve]

the coat or the bra cus those 2 are diff thing?

we have the coat for her sprite in EN

just not on the avatar

[shy hazel]

illustration with coat btr

who even cares bout sprites

[finite valve]

implying you don't care about essex sprite

[elder crane]

Another one was the image was the one with Minnie/Taihou in the loading screen

[finite valve]

the most cute thing ever lel

[elder crane]

I liked the higher clothing cause the pattern on that was nice

[finite valve]

pretty sure the taihou zep and minne loading screen are censored on all version

[elder crane]

well EN version swapped to the uncensored iirc after ppl complained
I might be mixing up my screens from that period though

[finite valve]

nah bro EN did censored that thing

[elder crane]

there was one that swapped to the uncensored after people complained

[finite valve]

i know cus i just like that

really?

[elder crane]

and iirc I like the censored one more for that

[finite valve]

which one

[elder crane]

I forget, that's what I meant earlier

[shy hazel]

???

[elder crane]

about "mixing them up"

[shy hazel]

en neved had censored loading screen

[finite valve]

if you talking about the minne taihou one yes it is still the censored one

[shy hazel]

i wish they do

[finite valve]

that image is censored on all version

[shy hazel]

cos its annoying to play outside

[elder crane]

there was one that was originally censored at some point and after people complained was uncensored, around that time, iirc

[finite valve]

dk much about that one since i don't visit general

[elder crane]

cause I remember saying that I liked the censored one more afterwards

the complaining was in game chat too

and on the main unofficial server too

[ionic magnet]

that hiei/fiji loading screen is dangerous censored or not

lol

[coral wren]

12+ am i right

[finite valve]

not like it matter when pretty sure most ppl who play this game are a bunch of 18+ weeb

lel

[shy hazel]

?

doesnt matter

its not about the player

[elder crane]

ratings are ratings

[shy hazel]

its about the ppl who sees what the player sees

[zenith tundra]

i wish u could turn off the loading screens. at work it feels bad to have those nsfw pop up randomly

[shy hazel]

like ppl watching u play in the train

and a very "Acceptable"

loading screen

shows up

[elder crane]

it's why there's a chat filter, I think, rating reasons

[coral wren]

Yeah, toggling on/off button would be appreciated..

[elder crane]

cause the filter suuuuucks and the devs don't seem to care

[finite valve]

tbh unless those ppl know me personally i don't really care

[shy hazel]

not that they care

[finite valve]

unless i was watching straight up porn

[shy hazel]

they cant

[ionic magnet]

random people are w/e but imagine your mom or your sister seeing those loading screens

[finite valve]

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

we all know devs are potato in coding

ssh quiet

ill get warned again

[zenith tundra]

u can just put an option to have the ws qe loading screen every time and gg

[stark raft]

yeah I love seeing u556's loli cameltoe loading every time I'm outside /s

[elder crane]

YOU CAN'T SUPRESS THE TRUUUUUUTH!!

[coral wren]

That's true tho

[finite valve]

what if your sister / parent know that you are a weeb?

[shy hazel]

there are things u shant show in public anyways

a person's situation allowing it doesnt means its allowable for everyone

they should start censoring loading screens

[finite valve]

like i said if i only care if i was watching straight up porn

a few "look at that weeeb" don't matter much to me

[ionic magnet]

its in game feedback for a long time already

[shy hazel]

its not only about u anyways

its about all players

[finite valve]

just wait till they implement that fix

[zenith tundra]

maybe jp cn people don't care enough for it to be a feature

[finite valve]

#game-feedback already have a card for that

[shy hazel]

they cant code

even jp should have complaints

if youve been in jp

everyone in the train plays phone

[zenith tundra]

[finite valve]

tbh JP train are too fucking cramp for you to even look at another phone

[zenith tundra]

aren't they used a lot more then other people to anime half naked girls tho?

[shy hazel]

u mean tokyo

it isnt like that in osaka and other prefectures

there are specific places for that zack

like dendentown and akiba

u see lots of animegirls posters or promotions in trains

but not half naked animegirls

actually

im wondering about loading screens in cn

i dont know if its censored there

we should copy those versions

[coral wren]

I wonder if kr have blackscreens everytime some lewd art is popping off 😄

[finite valve]

as far as i know only the minne taihou loading screen are censored

and that is just higher clothed on the boob

correct me if i am wrong tho

can't find the censored version anywhere on any picture site

going to be a pain finding it on 4chan

zzz

[shy hazel]

actually zack

[odd schooner]

St louis taihou pic?

[shy hazel]

dont go to the r+18 portion of any kombini in japan

all kombini except lawson 100 has that area

near the photocopy machine

[stark raft]

cant find the minne taihou loading either

even found the loli kc taihou

[odd schooner]

I have the pic

Uncensored one

[zenith tundra]

i'll test before i cannot anymore

[odd schooner]

I'll dm the tweet link too if you want

Wait

Oh censored ver?

Brb gonna dig a bit more

[stark raft]

DM the uncensored anyway

OH that one

azur lane = lolis are ok but cleavage aint

[odd schooner]

Actually

I found the censored on one of my recordings of pvp

Wait ill screenshot

[stark raft]

Free the tiddies

I don't want u556's crotch anymore

I wish you could pick what loading screen you want

[elder crane]

be able to disable/enable as you wish

[finite valve]

tbh you can only notice the diff if you like staring right at the screen and not take a glance

[elder crane]

and then crash the game on an edge case cause code is potato

[finite valve]

if you just take a glance which is what ppl will do in public

[modern tree]

It's covered by the loading bar, you have to go out of your way to be bothered by it

[finite valve]

is hard to notice between censored vs uncensored

so either way you are fucked

LMFAO

the censored version is only like 2 cm higher

not really an improvement

[zenith tundra]

forgot to dc but it actually happened

well 1-2

overall

if graf wouldn't die so easily

maybe if u put beaver/washing machine on her and let her tank amagi

lvl 105 graf btw

imo there is potential for kms to be viable at 120. considering that graf has more hp base then amagi and that roon should get much tankier at 120 i can see this comp being usable

[finite valve]

need to protect her vs WS tho

vs WS amagi should tank instead

[elder crane]

CN has it at mid-tierings, which I cautiously agree with

[zenith tundra]

u don't want amagi dead either way so put graf tank amagi or hms focus

[elder crane]

amagi should not be tanking, her main fleet buff is when alive only

I can't remember if her debuff is too

but usually you target amagi with HMS offense, soooo

[zenith tundra]

i think she need to be alive

[finite valve]

all her skill are alive only

buff or debuff

[zenith tundra]

defense doesn't matter tbh

i mean as offense fleet

[elder crane]

what I mean is, if HMS wants to target amagi preferentially you don't just give it to them with your positioning

as offense you have that advantage, use it

[zenith tundra]

if we talk en meta there is no ws kai

[finite valve]

tbh bisco buff is too unreliable unlike nagato tbh

crt dmg is never a good dmg source

[zenith tundra]

idk we still don't have white shells to see her dmg potential

[elder crane]

the crit% is high enough and you should get enough shots for it to not really matter

but it's true that FP buffs have the advantage of affecting fires

[finite valve]

i think you should use black shell due to her auto crt each salvo tbh

[elder crane]

dmg and crit buffs don't help your fires

you want the +hit

[zenith tundra]

black increases crit chance not damage

u don't want that on bismark

[stark raft]

auto crit only on 1st salvo

[finite valve]

oh lel

[elder crane]

I forget on the crit stuff but the big effect is the hitrate diff with the +hit
CN has moved to mostly SG for that reason, shells no longer auto-include for BB/BC

[finite valve]

i got the passive reverse lel

[zenith tundra]

yeah u did

[finite valve]

yeh then just use white on bisco

[zenith tundra]

white is so much better

[finite valve]

i thought that crt dmg is on black\

lel

yeh just use white all the way

black is useless now

[zenith tundra]

it's a good pve pair for white

[elder crane]

that's about all that can be said of it

[stark raft]

I'd try black on wskai since her acc is the best

[zenith tundra]

she auto crits on barrage always

u would use it for mg shoots

[stark raft]

salvo not barrage

[elder crane]

plus her +hit only means that she can afford to run shells at all

over SG/HFCR

[stark raft]

A qe boosted wskai with +80 fp? let em burn

[finite valve]

qe is too over rated with more and more OP shit coming

unless she got a kai

a stat buff ain't going to matter shit

[elder crane]

She's still best til we get even more OP shit

and even then you'd drop monarch first probably

[finite valve]

yeh amagi WS qe would work

stat buff on top of a debuff is good

[zenith tundra]

is it tho? amagi is unreliable targeted dmg at best and she gets nothing to do more of it

[finite valve]

a debuff is always nice

[elder crane]

idk if QE is good enough if you don't run 2 HMS main

[finite valve]

but need testing

[stark raft]

why even fit amagi in a qe team lmao

just use hyuuga

amagi hyuuga wskai

[zenith tundra]

u wouldn't fit amagi with other hms bb over qe tbh

[elder crane]

Why not Nagato then

[finite valve]

tbh once you got WS kai you can use whatever comp with her

WS kai is just THAT good

lel

[elder crane]

and you don't run Hyuuga without IJN reasons too

well til azuma comes and ruins the day
assuming no more broken ships in meantime ofc

[zenith tundra]

nagato will only be a thing again with azuma in ws kai era

[wicked rivet]

QE

[elder crane]

Nah Namayuu still top tier with WSkai teams in WSkai era
it's just that WSkai era is heavily offense-favoured

[finite valve]

going to LMFAO if her kai skill indeed debuff non HMS ships

[ionic magnet]

the never ending QE debate

[zenith tundra]

yeah but without hiryuu u won't use namagi

[stark raft]

QE kai mgm +2 per HMS ship

[elder crane]

???
and that matters cause???
Hiryuu's a base ship

[zenith tundra]

i know namaryuu is good even in ws kai era just any other nagato comp is not. i didn't word it properly

[elder crane]

oh lol yeah that's true

[coral wren]

Namagiyuga

[elder crane]

WSkai teams just kill em 1 by 1
which is why WSkai meta is so offense favoured

with offense advantage and secondaries advantage and the consistency of WSkai teams, mirrors is super favoured for offense

with positioning advantage you can't wall out WSkai too in that era

ofc flip-side with positioning advantage (and ofc the other stuff too) namayuu still wins consistently
and that team is pretty consistent for the mirror too, though I think probably a bit less so since more RNG on it

[coral wren]

What's the standard Warkai team?

[finite valve]

standard for what?
vs WS kai team?

[elder crane]

QE monarch WSkai
but tbh it's just pick 2 good HMS main to pair with her

Centaur Dork 2 other common choices

[finite valve]

either last long enough against WS kai snip or somehow nuke her before she nuke you

[elder crane]

if you run QE, Neptune Jun Ykkz for vangaurd usually

[finite valve]

only the former is possible

[elder crane]

but subbing in Sheff/Bel in there is fine too, over Nep or more likely Ykkz

if not QE, Nep's slot opens up but ykkz's slot closes

[coral wren]

The only Neptune I could get ready in time would be NepNep.

[finite valve]

don't they said that WS foxes / bunnies still possible in WS meta?

one is just out last her while the other is burst her down

[elder crane]

iirc both are usually considered in the "usable" tier

though, again, since wskai meta is even more offense-favored than usual from what I hear, you can get away with a lot

[finite valve]

not to mention we got 2 video clip of someone using cranes or enty nuking the shit out of meta shit lel

[coral wren]

Day 322: Aurora is still nowhere to be found. ;_;

[finite valve]

tho is just the usual enty + helena shit

so 50 50

[coral wren]

11 San Diegos in the past month, but not one Aurora.

[elder crane]

I mean the guy got favoured RNG
and getting 50% winrate ain't nothing to be proud of

[zenith tundra]

@coral wren wishing well was the only chance

[coral wren]

I wish they'd just put her in the exchange rotation.

[elder crane]

I wish that ever got updated at all

[zenith tundra]

how can people whale for her then

[elder crane]

and they removed the droppable ships

it was nice sussex was in Bis event cosntruction for whatever reason

[coral wren]

I wish they'd remove the 1:10:00 list from all build pools too.

[zenith tundra]

i finished event build too fast

[elder crane]

I went well over 500 cubes hunting for 556 as my last event ship

[zenith tundra]

no chance for sussex

[coral wren]

If I never see another Shropshire or Kent again it'd be too soon.

[finite valve]

trust me sussex is not the worst of your worries

[elder crane]

I already pulled both sussex and aber from dailies

[finite valve]

the monitor is

aber is so fucking rare

[zenith tundra]

not gonna matter since i'll never pull for them

[elder crane]

I'm just perma in light now for Denver and now both loli v3s from having to skip that....

elites in light construction

[zenith tundra]

i got uss lolis in 25 cubes

[coral wren]

I've got Denver but I don't know if I'll ever use her for anything.

[elder crane]

I'm holding cubes in case Centaur soon

[zenith tundra]

after wasting my cubes on jp on them

[coral wren]

Especially since I hate the Broncos with a passion.

[elder crane]

Denver the worst one anyways imo

it's for completion though

[coral wren]

I did get St. Louis from the wishing well, so I guess that's something.

[zenith tundra]

why using it on a drop boat instead of aurora?

[elder crane]

also did anyone test if wishing well can nerf rates?

[coral wren]

I can't put Aurora in twice.

[elder crane]

i.e. pick Sandy and nerf her rate down to 2%

[stark raft]

I have bel and sandy

[elder crane]

no other light cons exclusives left to pull for?

[zenith tundra]

i have that setup but didn't get any monty

[coral wren]

Not really anything that caught my eye.

[stark raft]

I already have edin and aurora

[elder crane]

I suppose you have hais, yat sen, and Bucky already

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

I didn't get Aurora and won't barring a bunch of cubes showing up out of nowhere, but I did complete everything else in the event aside from collecting all the furniture.

[shy hazel]

i always had ships before subs 100%

[stark raft]

bucky is my xmas gift

just cause of the emote

[shy hazel]

well wishing well will get updated sooner or later

anyways

[finite valve]

next year lel

by that time i am pretty sure all ppl going to have all the ship

useless shit

[shy hazel]

its a fixed feature rn

rather than time to time

[zenith tundra]

?

[finite valve]

fixed for who?

i thought JP also temp?

[elder crane]

pretty sure it's a temp thing only

[shy hazel]

its supposed to be a feature that comes with new ui

[coral wren]

Too bad it won't let you select the same ship twice for both slots

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

suppose != it is

[elder crane]

they advertised it only as a limited-time thing

[zenith tundra]

double sandy sounds good

[elder crane]

they always had an end-date on it

[finite valve]

sadly you can't choose same ship 2 times

[shy hazel]

i mean

[coral wren]

At that point you'd never pull anything but Sandy.

[shy hazel]

the limited time may mean the pool rather than the event

[stark raft]

sandy and lil sandy in the future

[shy hazel]

lets see

[elder crane]

it comes with new UI, but isn't perma in it afaik

[finite valve]

if it was perm they should not add a before "said" date in it

[zenith tundra]

it would be really nice

[shy hazel]

i never even touch it in current en

dont need any ship from it

[finite valve]

the moment they add a before date into the well it become useless

[elder crane]

oh wait lol patch notes don't mention it

[finite valve]

not like it matter for EN

all useless boat

[elder crane]

even devs forgot about that shite

[finite valve]

zzz

[ionic magnet]

its for beginners so w/e

[zenith tundra]

can u screen shoot it stella? the event page for it in game

[shy hazel]

nno

im feeling lazy

[coral wren]

I suppose we'll find out how permanent it is tomorrow morning.

[shy hazel]

ask @ionic magnet

[elder crane]

this?

[finite valve]

they even put limited lel

[ionic magnet]

[zenith tundra]

before u choose

[coral wren]

San Diego

[elder crane]

oh lol nvm then

[finite valve]

pretty sure everyone already choose

for meme lel

[elder crane]

just pop into a diff server

[zenith tundra]

i have this as well