pvp

[elder crane]

100mm AA next after too

[sharp wing]

my 1st is Mle

[vague token]

i dont understand why she doesnt count french boats

mass is in the iris of light/dark

so why does she only count eagle

saint louis is french too

[elder crane]

at least the mle and rudder were 4th/5th

[vague token]

so like what

reeee

[sharp wing]

Why would US boat count french ships tho?

[vague token]

alliance stuff?

teamwork?

comp friendly skills?

centaur doesnt exclusively buff hms

xD

[elder crane]

The Free french Navy didn't really operate indep in WW2 either

and Richie was completed in the US iirc

[sharp wing]

That's the point

[vague token]

like mass is also just part of the french event so why not let her count french ships

would help with saint louis

having 0 synergy with anyone

eagle pr, is french

[sharp wing]

Let's make KGV synergize w/ Bismark then

[vague token]

but hey im the guy who says more crossfaction buffs please

[sharp wing]

More WALES pls

[vague token]

centaur is good design, but she has too much stats xD

[elder crane]

Oh, Mass and JB fought

[vague token]

i guess ryuusei will be forced if you're running carriers since hp bloat is crazy

[elder crane]

that's why she's in that event I suppose

[vague token]

yeah, says she scored 5 hits

on wikipedia

crippled the main gun

alternatively

i would settle for more gear

that adds factions

like the kizuna headband

(just dont add one for ijn for balance lol)

make biscuit a royal navy boat with gear so she can get QE and self buffs? yeah!

or anyone!

lots of possibilities with that

[sharp wing]

just don't give devs the idea to break game more

[vague token]

i mean, we're already in power creep land

might as well buff everyone else

because they never nerf

we're already all in

[sharp wing]

Well, ppl who don't have 1 or 2 ships are not

[vague token]

either that or we have reached peak op power and they'll never add anything to rival PR1-2 or nagato/amagi ever again

in which case rip balance

[sharp wing]

I mean, few broken units are always there in any gacha

And Al basically pure PVE game

[vague token]

i mean

[sharp wing]

PVP is just for mark

[vague token]

the harder pve gets

the more strict comps get

like if we get ch 14 more boats will get the axe probably

t0 and everything else is t3

xD

or perma bench

[sharp wing]

oh boi

[vague token]

oh well

i only complain because i like the game

the struggle

i complain about all the games i like a lot xD

[sharp wing]

P.S. Sirius Swimsuit

[vague token]

ah another red herring who has a cool skill

but ultimately doesnt matter

xD

[sharp wing]

[sharp wing]

Why is it so ded... I'm rank 10 w/ 2174...

might just rush +9 and forget about this season lol

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

Well, was not as bad, as i expected. Only ate 2 +9

[vague token]

id hit 2198 with 3 missed matches and no +9s

[sharp wing]

By some magic

i missed 4 actually

[vague token]

which makes sense cause donald trump and avrora 1st are 2222 and 2224

[wicked rivet]

I missed 2 and lost 2

[vague token]

oof

[sharp wing]

I mean, we only have 5 AotNs on Sandy atm, i'm being 5th, lol

[wicked rivet]

rn we have 17 on avrora

[sharp wing]

This season is even more ded, than that maint fck up

Also i managed aotn on Saturday after missing 15 or 16 tickets w/ that maint thing season

[vague token]

oh wait, i think i got yunooooo

xD

[wicked rivet]

beat my fleet

[vague token]

im gonna need you to stop big sevening me

[wicked rivet]

sorry chief I'll see what I can do

[vague token]

you've one shot saint louis every time because you do it first time

and she doesnt have dev 25 yet lol

[wicked rivet]

[vague token]

im negative 5 big seven total i think atm

[wicked rivet]

OOF

[vague token]

on 3 rounds

oh you caught a big seven and your vanguard evaporated, 3rd round goes to me because prank was right after

xD

[wicked rivet]

n i c e

congrats

[vague token]

round 4 dork died to i dunno what

before vanguards died on both

5 v 2 lol

[wicked rivet]

rip

[vague token]

RWG sara is bulky vs non ap snipes

cause my sara is bot and your dork is top

[wicked rivet]

dork's barrage is meh anyways

[vague token]

yeah xd

i think it does like

1200 if every shot connects

[wicked rivet]

yeah

I think its something like 450 per shot

at least from what I've seen

[vague token]

lowest i saw was 399

bit of variance

juneau mid is bad against your team

she doesnt take any splash unless im already dying by catching gun shots

because no air strikes

and if you dont big seven she wont die like at all

yeah she has to be lead to heal properly, kinda annoying cause there's waste since pearl is on her

xD

at least fighting your fleet is fun lol

ignoring big seven rng that is

xD

at least by the time im doing getting 120 xp my main should hit 200 affection lol

[sharp wing]

My main isn't fully ringed even

[vague token]

im saving a ring for someone i like instead of just meta xD

hopefully phoenix gets a wedding skin someday

[hot creek]

I would love a wedding skin

[wicked rivet]

I didnt wanna ring belfast but I got annoyed cause she was the only one I hadnt yet so I threw 600 gems at her

Phoenix wedding skin would be sweet

Understandable

And thank u

Makes yeeting her a lot easier

[vague token]

xD

[wicked rivet]

Oathed hiryuu is annoying af

[hot creek]

only ring girls you'd f***

[wicked rivet]

True

Wait

Not nagato

Hold up

[vague token]

hmm, i wonder what helena kai is going to be

since we know what leip got

is helena gonna be full meme

or is she gonna be busted

[wicked rivet]

Isnt she already a t0 CL

[vague token]

in pve yeah, 40% global damage is top tier

[wicked rivet]

@balmy torrent I use double +10 oxy on every vanguard and when they dont die the opponent gets bakoom'd what do u think of the setup?

[sharp wing]

Helena already got Kai

[wicked rivet]

[vague token]

i wonder if they could give helena a usability change by changing radar. like it puts a buff that grants like 3 seconds of damage boost but it only activates when the ship uses their primary weapon. so it wouldnt matter when you radar, the damage is granted when the big weapons hit.

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

or debuff, with same basis

well, that doesnt help with timing xD

we havent been in a 20 second meta for a while

and it wont change xD

plus no space for her

azuma 7.5k hp too good to pass up, or any other big hp CA

rip

[vague token]

xD

[cerulean estuary]

lvl 120 coming up , pvp fleet still lacking of excess xp

[cerulean estuary]

im struggling with hiryu though lvl 110 with 3k exp

too many BB's need to 110 as of now
cant decide which prioritize first

not to mention im currently leveling KMS pvp test fleet

[finite valve]

i dread the day i need to 120 VG

zzz

[shy hazel]

ykkz,ez

but jun

[cerulean estuary]

your in the middle of leveling 120 ur pvp fleet , then suddenly new "META" came up

hmm

[shy hazel]

gotta 120 again

never ending grind

[cerulean estuary]

im rushing to get lvl 110 ( 200 aff ) my KMS pvp test fleet , then suddenly lvl 120 came up

oh men

[midnight heron]

noooooo

[cerulean estuary]

good for u i my research bp's are always MEME gun

[hot creek]

how u get so many PR equips

whats yo secret

[lament lichen]

lets see Imade a rudder, staag, roon gun, and confetti gun

[cerulean estuary]

give me 1 rudder

[shy hazel]

making 6 prs so no gold for research

only aa rdar from free research

tis perfect for w12.anyways

why not

[cerulean estuary]

does "free" gold research mainly 8 and 12 hrs the same as "paid" gold research 8 / 12 hrs

in terms of loots / rewards or is it always RNG

[ionic magnet]

the "paid" research gives more rewards on average

[shy hazel]

ofc 👀

[ionic magnet]

the free 12 hr one feels just the same as the 1.5 hr coin research tbh

[shy hazel]

its something u use when u sleep or something anyways

2 days and im done with all prs

then w12 begins

[cerulean estuary]

yeah when u sleep " but what if it does not appear? "

thats one of the problem

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Run any1 hr one to refresh

[cerulean estuary]

i remember going to sleep = all reasearch are 1 hr and 1 : 30 timers

[ionic magnet]

12 hrs is too long anyways

[cerulean estuary]

wat da , im getting eyebags for sandbags , and now also for research too

smh

[sharp wing]

TBH, just running some 2-4 hr one works for sleep, then wake up and start new one. Those 8-12 hrs are not really suitable anywhere

[elder crane]

Finally the good PR equips are starting to complete for me
410 meme, 410 AP, 100 AA, CA HE, Rudder, 381 twin, and now 152

[ionic magnet]

the rewards/time ratio is just not worth imo

[sharp wing]

It's liek sleep + all the way to work lunch break, lol

Well, 8 hrs 8k coins ones are very good

[ionic magnet]

but hey its free so

[sharp wing]

they give 8 ship bps

But i'm totally ut of coins anyway

[elder crane]

Actually those aren't good on reward/time or reward/resource ratio, just overall reward cause of length

the shorter 2.5H one is miles better otherwise

[sharp wing]

can't reliably spam it

[ionic magnet]

coin comms are always good

until you have no coins left

[sharp wing]

Also 2:30 one is like low tier wdym

[elder crane]

lol no

[sharp wing]

ah, there 2 types of 2:30

both cost 3k gold lol

[cerulean estuary]

i always take the 1:30 and 2:30 timer with paid gold

[elder crane]

On pure PR ship bp per time spent,
D-0XX-UL Series
H-085-UL Series
H-387-MI Series
H-339-MI Series
H-207-RF Series
D-7XX-MI Series
G-236-MI Series
D-4XX-RF Series
D-3XX-MI Series
G-531-MI Series
B-3XX-RF Series
G-412-MI Series
B-2XX-MI and B-1XX-MI Series

[sharp wing]

well those 8hr 8k cins ones are same yield as 2:30 (good ones)

[ionic magnet]

atleast theyre better than 4+ hrs that needs other reqs while still getting same rewards

[sharp wing]

not gonna run cube projects anyway

so either 8 hrs or 2:30

[elder crane]

skipping the cube ones, it's the
2.5H D 3k
1.5H G 3k
8H D 8k
5H D 5k
for the first few

[ionic magnet]

yea im sticking with D and G series

[elder crane]

then 4H G 6k
and the ch11 B

[sharp wing]

D series 8 and 2:30 are best after cube ones

[cerulean estuary]

yeah some are good and some are bad

but the main problem here lies on the RNGesus of what the research list will give you

its not always u get the "D"

[elder crane]

On a per-hour PR ship bp rate basis, 1.5H G 3k is better (but more coin intensive) than the 8H D 8k

[sharp wing]

i prefer 8 hrs ones for reliability

[elder crane]

actually more shorter ones are more reliable overall

[sharp wing]

Not for me

[elder crane]

per project worse, but in the same timeframe more reliable

[sharp wing]

I don;t check in game that often

[ionic magnet]

if you get those comms always sure

[sharp wing]

So i will waste time w/ short ones

[elder crane]

in the PvP channel
don't check game often
(/s, I know what you mean)

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

I mean, pvp...

Not even funny

[elder crane]

time to watch amagi pewpew with the shiny new PR gun I gave her

[sharp wing]

You mean u gave her triple

or u didn't buy twin 381 from core lol

[elder crane]

wait I need to take off her weapon skin, I can't see the shots

yeah, just got my first PR 152

[sharp wing]

oh, aux

[elder crane]

also built my 4th twin381 but w/e on that

main guns don't really pewpew

[sharp wing]

381 well

I mean, i wonder how that ap will be reliable at even hitting moving vg

[ionic magnet]

another +0 reset

[sharp wing]

Esp solo Nanoda-sama

[ionic magnet]

[cerulean estuary]

its gensui rush today , i must have at least 2 +1 point

[sharp wing]

maybe shotgunning 155 still better at that point

[elder crane]

it's AP, should be pretty decent barring a solo speedboosted ykkz

[sharp wing]

yeah, that's why i say

wonder about that ap

[elder crane]

the spread on it isn't that small
plus AP is like twice faster shell

[sharp wing]

it's has tight spread

[cerulean estuary]

i both have the new BB T0 HE and AP guns , i dont know where to put them

[elder crane]

nowhere

[sharp wing]

well, triple he gun good on ships w/ like timed barrages

[cerulean estuary]

haha your so mean dude

[sharp wing]

Washi something

[elder crane]

or if you are relying on main guns but incidentally there's a barrage

[sharp wing]

Or... BMs you know

Bms and other low fp boats will like it

[cerulean estuary]

what if scenario , devs disables barrages on PVP

[elder crane]

and the AP one is useful for killing the high-chapter heavy/med elites

[sharp wing]

I will stand up and clap

Also disable Air strikes

[elder crane]

that would make most BBs mostly useless

[sharp wing]

[cerulean estuary]

BB"s are not useless , just becoz they have no barrage

[sharp wing]

Imagine if airstrikes in pvp would clear screen from shells

[shy hazel]

the most important pr gears to get

if u ask me

[elder crane]

the 410AP is really good at knocking over the BB/BC elites that try to torch your fleet in the higher chaptes

[shy hazel]

is the bofors one

cos u have to replace all guns in your pvp fleet

while u only need 2-3 of other guns

heh

[sharp wing]

staag u mean

[elder crane]

nah ykkz and Jun keep the 113s

[shy hazel]

staag ye

[lament lichen]

bofors staag

[elder crane]

still the most needed for staag

[sharp wing]

i use bofors on ykk

[elder crane]

4 maximum staag needed

[lament lichen]

vanguard uses 113 still

[elder crane]

CAs use the staag usually

also 1 VG should probably use staag anyways if your main fleet has only 2 AA guns

either that, or a bofors if your VG has 0 low-AA ships

[sharp wing]

well ykk is pretty low on aa/eff

[elder crane]

arguably you could end up using more rudders than staag

but those less crucial

4 rudders and 3 staag in some setups

[silver root]

what boats can I use to fill amagi's spot until the crimson echoes rerun? I have ykkz

[sharp wing]

Poor soul

[cerulean estuary]

w12 patch this coming thursday?

[sharp wing]

KagaBB for more Nagato tier rng

Who knows...

[silver root]

aint got KagaBB either, started playing 2 weeks after crimson echos

[sharp wing]

Oh well

[ionic magnet]

check pins

[sharp wing]

Just run foxes xD

[ionic magnet]

theres a tierlist up there

[elder crane]

Nagafoxes or HMS your best bets

[sharp wing]

yeah

If you got Nyaga that is

[elder crane]

Nakaga better until you get the HMS PRs running
then, idk actually

[sharp wing]

and foxes maxed

[silver root]

yeah i been running nakaga but I usually need 5 resets against maxed namaryuu

[sharp wing]

wha

[elder crane]

that's the life
but you can tech towards beating that fleet/max yours if not maxed

you should be able to get at/past 50% winrate

[ionic magnet]

p much same with hms

[silver root]

oof

[sharp wing]

I mean i rarely reset w/ WasdA

[cerulean estuary]

dont forget to prepare ur pvp fleet for 120

[silver root]

vs namaryuu?

[sharp wing]

Foxes should decimate ijn comps

[elder crane]

WaSDA is higher tier than both Nakaga and HMS, imo, right now

or at least equal on the Nakaga part

[sharp wing]

I never liked foxes anyway

[silver root]

hiryuu counters foxes pretty hard

[vague token]

i was using hiryuu was my pocket fox counter before nagato

xD

[sharp wing]

eh

[ionic magnet]

theyre fast atleast

[sharp wing]

best comp vs foxes wasd tbh

[elder crane]

weeeeell
I'm the guy who perma ran Hiryuu/Hood/Amagi in the late-foxes early-WaSDA meta

before Nagato

[vague token]

i was doing that before swapping to dork hiryuu amagi

because dork is great

[sharp wing]

dun like her either

[elder crane]

relying on main gun shots

[vague token]

cause when 110 happened i couldnt confirm a snipe before 2nd launch anymore

i probably could have used warspite but i like dork's design

[elder crane]

it don't matter, all you need to do is soften them up for the final counter

[vague token]

i dont like relying on that xD

[elder crane]

and let that carry the worst RNG matches

[vague token]

ill put hiryuu back when retro comes out

eg forced

[coral wren]

pepega

season end

[elder crane]

Lose entire vanguard and torpedos are in your face?
No fear, Hiryuu will hold them off while Amagi/Hood gun down the enemy vanguard
and also simultaneously help wipe the enemy main fleet

[lament lichen]

season time 2D 05:55:47

[sharp wing]

Season End is last reset

[silver root]

would dork/monarch/hood fill amagi's spot temporarily

[vague token]

amagi cant be compared to anything

[coral wren]

amagi downing the enemy vg lmao

[elder crane]

Run QE you pleb

[coral wren]

good luck killing ykkz

[vague token]

8% stat debuff, 10% backline evade, fire reduction. nothing matches this toolset

[elder crane]

funny enough it wasn't much of an issue

[coral wren]

namaryuu sucks at killing VG

[silver root]

[vague token]

i dunno, 1 big seven is usually enough

[coral wren]

2/3 of my vg survives every time

[sharp wing]

lol

[vague token]

unless you're lucky and they move to the side

[coral wren]

dunno why

Every single time

[vague token]

which is why i prefer 0 big seven matches

over 1:1 big seven

xD

[coral wren]

probably namaryuu is shit

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elder crane]

I beg to differ on that
you win most vanguard fights even with stall and secondaries alone do a good job finishing them off

[vague token]

unless you're running like 6 boiler memes

[coral wren]

and if I want 3/3 survive I'd just bring eldridge in

[elder crane]

I've had vanguards penetrate with half health and they still just get gunned down for an easy victory

[coral wren]

namaryuu literally has no damage

for eldridge

[vague token]

wut

[elder crane]

more boilers = more ramming too so it doesn't help that much

[sharp wing]

lol

Eldridge in 2k19

No damage namaryuu...

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

Get back to Earth dude

[lament lichen]

keeping eldridge alive when using wasd

what a joke

[coral wren]

actually working

[elder crane]

it works okay on offense with the lowered enemy damage

[lament lichen]

using it on offense dont mean it works on defense

[elder crane]

on defense it's a free win

[vague token]

eh, you eat 1 torp and she's already half dead

[coral wren]

only foxes could counter eld

[elder crane]

still better to run something else

[coral wren]

really

[vague token]

if you get big sevened

it's over

she's on fire for all her health

[ionic magnet]

theres a whole lot of comps that actually works tbh

[elder crane]

Big7 is over, torps is over, Eld RNG screwing you it's over

[ionic magnet]

like.. triple CV

[lament lichen]

magato and amagi both fire before 20secs

[coral wren]

I used to be mad about namaryuu

but its just shit now

easy

the only annoying thing about it is that you cant rush thru

[elder crane]

well you should be getting 85+% winrate on offense with a good comp

[coral wren]

and have to wait 15s

[vague token]

is the mirror really 8:2?

xD

[elder crane]

easily if not better

[sharp wing]

tbh naga rng doesn't make it look like that

[vague token]

i feel like i wouldnt get that but i dont have max oath on any of them so

[sharp wing]

half matches u get 0:3 barrages insta reset lo

[elder crane]

You need to be down 2 Nagato/Amagi barrages to begin to risk losing, 3 before it starts being likely

[ionic magnet]

oathing wont make your winrate increase from 50% to 85% xD

[elder crane]

which is like 5% chance to happen iirc

[vague token]

oh i meant i feel like mirror was like 7:3

definitely not 9:1

[elder crane]

WaSDE mirrors was the 7:3 one, and that is as bad as it ever gets

[sharp wing]

well, that's enty vs enty bs

[ionic magnet]

who knew i would miss the fox meta

95% wr if not higher

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

i tell u a joke

[vague token]

tell us joke

[shy hazel]

my foxes never reach 200 affection

[elder crane]

idk I feel like I almost hit that level in the worst namayuu matchups
and maxed namayuu is much rarer than maxed foxes

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

foxes in 2019

[vague token]

i probably just have bad big seven luck

[sharp wing]

Like i have more problem w/ WasdA against NamaHyuuga than against Namaryuu, lol

[ionic magnet]

well namayuus are all over the place now

[elder crane]

like 90+% of the time I don't pay attention to my PvP match
and I haven't lost one from that in months I think

[vague token]

im always behind 2 usually

[cerulean estuary]

pvp joke for me is when i see a homing torpedo from ryusei firing / aiming at 12 oclock

[vague token]

the only wins i comfortably take are 0 big seven

or 1:1

not 2:2

[lament lichen]

already +2 this reset

[cerulean estuary]

vysga what ur current points

[sharp wing]

Actually that homing 12 o'clock decimates VG

[lament lichen]

2213

[elder crane]

a 1 HP Hiryuu with 10s left is a comfortable win, despite what it seems

that's just how Hiryuu teams roll

[craggy cove]

Brag teams https://i.imgur.com/B6n3VPU.png

[vague token]

i usually have bad amagi barrage rng

the aim component just whiffs for me

and always hits me for enemy

xD

amagi's 250 base damage AP rounds rng is the worst

[elder crane]

why won't the sh*tters in my list cliiiiiiiimb

[vague token]

hey now you cant disrespect them like that

respect your food

[shy hazel]

[craggy cove]

I think this is the first season I haven't given up halfway through

[shy hazel]

its a dead season though

ppl still not done with event

[elder crane]

I'm down 7 matches from oversleeping/going overtime on doing other stuff
luckily it's a dead season

[shy hazel]

freedom for me soon

no pr no event

can finally focus on pvp

w12 can wait wtv

[craggy cove]

Same blue

[vague token]

oh yeah how many boilers you suggest with saint louis anyways

[ionic magnet]

every season is dead season

[craggy cove]

3 losses and 4 missed

[shy hazel]

what u smoking

[sharp wing]

wdym ded season... ded pvp game

[shy hazel]

season before this was v active

[elder crane]

2 minimum, 3 ideally probably
but idk if 3 can be fit in

[shy hazel]

1 should be enuf for louis soon

after 120

[vague token]

oh i can do 2

i wasnt sure if 3

[elder crane]

Louis is CL speed, and CL/CL/DD needs 2 min

[vague token]

cause i was doing like 1 ykk, 2 juneau

[elder crane]

so Louis/CL/ykkz needs 2 min as well probably

[vague token]

but i could cut one off juneau

[elder crane]

yeah, I'll have to finally give in on boiler on ykkz it seems

[shy hazel]

boiler fe

[sharp wing]

Well, i dun sue boilers

[elder crane]

1 is not enough

[shy hazel]

you can always use the badge

[vague token]

well im using beaver saint louis xD

gotta go fast

ill swap in charles for ultimate speed jk

[elder crane]

well, right now it's badge+2boilers minimum for dodging BB shots
any fewer and you eat a lot, more is diminishing returns (but still useful)

[sharp wing]

Swap in Glowworm for ultimate RAM

[vague token]

glowworm doesnt add movespeed though

[elder crane]

on a CL/Jun/Ykkz setup that is

Swap in Leip retro when it comes

[vague token]

40% movespeed from charles

[sharp wing]

Well, been running 0 boilers forever

[vague token]

glowworm/leip/charles meta

just ram the enemy main fleet

when vanguard is up

HYPER SPEEEED

actually what even determines max move range anyways

cause when you get crazy speed

on pve

auto lets them go far up before snap back

[elder crane]

top/bottom is same cap, but front/back I find extra speed means they travel a lot more

[vague token]

yeah

cause like i remember joking around with charles and they'd push waaaaay over

in pve

[ionic magnet]

4 boilers or zero boilers is the same anyways when AI is hungry for some BB shells

[elder crane]

speed ykkz is fast enough to get in range of enemy main DD secondaries sometimes

[vague token]

would beaver + charles buff + leip push you far enough?

[sharp wing]

The more acceleration u get, the farther u can push

[vague token]

just ram enemy main fleet while vanguard is up?

xD

[sharp wing]

not really

[elder crane]

facetorp enemy main when vanguard is still up

[sharp wing]

Also eat shotgunning from BBs

[vague token]

oh right defense bbs can shoot point blank

for w/e reason

[elder crane]

probably due to how min range is coded

[sharp wing]

Esp when Amagi shoots barrage at point blank

[vague token]

uses your main fleet to check their min range

[ionic magnet]

offense can do that too

[vague token]

top kek

[elder crane]

big 7 point blank is much more scary imo

[vague token]

ive never seen my offense use guns when enemy vanguard has pushed up

and there's no main left

[ionic magnet]

yea happened to me a few times now

[vague token]

unless the vanguard snaps all the way to the right

[elder crane]

BB min range for targeting iirc is 50, last I dived into code

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

It certainly aint working in pvp

[vague token]

well i mean

[elder crane]

22 for Sakura torps, whatever that means

[vague token]

it works for you

not for defense

just like fleet tech works for defense

and not for you

xD

[sharp wing]

Enemy bbs point blank main guns so

[vague token]

well i mean

[elder crane]

Fleet tech is long patched on CN, they patched it like 2-3 days in

idk if it is for us though

[vague token]

if it's checking from your position

it makes sense

[ionic magnet]

ykkz is like 1 inch away from my BB and a main gun targetted ykkz

[vague token]

for defense point blank

[ionic magnet]

but ofc ykkz evaded it anyways lul

[vague token]

maybe it locked on when she was farther out?

and then she zoomed over

?

like defense can shoot when your at ramming distance

[ionic magnet]

nah shes really near the entire time

[vague token]

xD

and then big seven at point blank is instant death

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

cause it spawns on you xD

cant dodge that ;)

[elder crane]

all of the 7.5k of it too

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

Well, if yr vg to the side, it only catches few

[elder crane]

actually you can catch none at pointblank

[sharp wing]

If it rams main, it can evade most of it

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

the pattern spawns in as a clump directly in front of Nagato

[sharp wing]

Amagi barrage point blanking u hits hard tho

[elder crane]

and begins moving downrange as it spreads out

so if you're beside the clump you're safe

it lingers for a sec though, and if VG rams it, 🇫

[ionic magnet]

i'll try to take a SS when it happens again

[vague token]

i mean it's not like i dont believe you

why would we lie

[sharp wing]

Also it's funny when barrage activates, after nagato sinks

[vague token]

to each other ;)

[ionic magnet]

yea its just funny when it happens

[elder crane]

have you had the half-barrage happen yet?

[vague token]

the what

[ionic magnet]

one of the rare moments in the game

[sharp wing]

1st wave only

[elder crane]

Nagato barrage spawns 2 parts with a tiny delay

the wide spread first then the chevrons

if she sinks in that delay, you can get the Big-7-like part only

[ionic magnet]

lol

[sharp wing]

It's all kind of deviations w/ that Nyaga

[vague token]

oh

i feel like that at least makes sense though

i havent seen it

[elder crane]

the chevrons hit first cause they accel faster and have higher top speed

[vague token]

usually i sink her after they're all there

[sharp wing]

Few times i sink her before animation even starts

[elder crane]

all of these delay stats are in the code, so if you're familiar with coding you can dive in to find it

[sharp wing]

Like she sinks same time, as skill pop up

[shy hazel]

nagato barrage is 3 part

mid then sides then mid again

[elder crane]

the relevant data is in the weapons, "barrage", and ammo files iirc

[vague token]

is code in english or moon runes though

xD

[elder crane]

half-half

[sharp wing]

there some moonrunes for naming

[vague token]

pass

xD

[sharp wing]

Cause... you know chinese coders

[shy hazel]

why u call it chevron lol

its not oil

[elder crane]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron_(insignia)

[shy hazel]

the military formation

[lament lichen]

Cheveron is oil

[vague token]

i wasnt expecting that

[sharp wing]

lmao

Boi... She really wants some love

[elder crane]

basically that shape is a chevron, no wiki article on the shape of the chevron so that's next best

[vague token]

share please

[sharp wing]

NO.

[vague token]

[elder crane]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chevron

that's better

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

but no pretty pics

[sharp wing]

nvm, i actually thought that was 3 sanruis, but 1 is Nepu

[vague token]

wrong neptune

;)

[sharp wing]

But still 3 rotations w/ sanrui gold project in a row

wdym wrong... I will make it right.

[vague token]

xD

at least ive never heard anyone call hms neptune nepu

at least ive never heard anyone call hms neptune nepu

[sharp wing]

[sharp wing]

NEPU

[vague token]

NEXT form retros for CPUs when

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

neptune collab shouldnt return forever

make crap ships crappier

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

then add new crap ships

i see fawx rushing his pvp this season

what a weirdo

[vague token]

lol

i got a +2 from alf earlier

doesnt matter though since im down 3 matches xD

[sharp wing]

We should also get Utawarerumono collab, since it not version exclusive too, and all other servers, including KR had it

[shy hazel]

dont rly care about it wtv

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

i see ENtitled ppl

complain about

having 2 events again

that is so near together

[sharp wing]

Well

I hope they give like 2 weeks after 120 patch and ch12

It's summer too

Ppl don't play as much

[shy hazel]

we got like how many days again

before bisko event ends

it should be until maint so

5 days?

[sharp wing]

12th ends

[vague token]

i mean we got 3 weeks to do biscuit

that's a huge amount of time

mlbing all of them is easily doable unless you barely play the game lol

[shy hazel]

how many points u farmed kiro

[sharp wing]

I mean, it's CN anniversary

It has 3 waves actually

we got only small part of acitvities

[vague token]

i havent been farming points, gotta get 120 xp

im at uh

[shy hazel]

im only at 50k

[vague token]

31k

[shy hazel]

i want to reach 60 for that bp

but it dont feel worth it anymore

tbh

lol

[vague token]

i bought all the bps already

[sharp wing]

I won't tryhard for 60

[vague token]

first thing i got lol

unless you mean the tiered ones

[sharp wing]

There Bps in rewards

[shy hazel]

i dont mean that duh

the tier

[vague token]

oh

yeah that isnt worth the oil

[sharp wing]

40k and 60k 2 bps

[shy hazel]

i bought out all shop items

as usual

[sharp wing]

I way over on points for shop

Shop was really small this event

[shy hazel]

its bigger in cn jp so yea

only us nope

[vague token]

it's really weird we didnt have any gear

[shy hazel]

no pr2 prints

[vague token]

when kizuna had 3 unique gear

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

that are actually interesting

mechanically

[sharp wing]

Even not taking that into account, it's much smaller, than usual

[shy hazel]

cos ships and gears

in exchange

none this time

[sharp wing]

kgv is there

[shy hazel]

oh kgv exists

[midnight heron]

we need rainbow quad torps

[shy hazel]

yea im expecting rainbow dildos

[vague token]

i built an extra kgv after buying her from points lol

[sharp wing]

And she's 8k, but still shop emtied too fast

[vague token]

triggered

[shy hazel]

gotta wait for chessboard rerun with subs

in our server

[sharp wing]

I want submarine carrier only

[shy hazel]

only ijn has one

and has good buff

[sharp wing]

yes

[shy hazel]

but wtv

[sharp wing]

only 1 atm

[shy hazel]

nagato rerun still far

[sharp wing]

And we didn't get those 1600lb bomb seaplanes in shop yet

[shy hazel]

we need shells first

[sharp wing]

We need all tbh

We got fcking nothing even after PR

[vague token]

core data just piling up

not doing anything

[steep fog]

I have 4.5k core data

should buy more dildo I guess

[sharp wing]

I'd buy Dildo, but i don't have plates for them anyway, and not gonna use plates on them now, after PR gear is out too

Only got 2 maxed from events

Anyways, of the ships i at least sometimes use, I only do 1 dildo on Aya. Second is basically there. Maybe i should start actually bothering w/ subs

[vague token]

and back to 11-4 farm

xD

my oil

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

i have to get columbia also

[vague token]

same

[ionic magnet]

my 11-4 is still not safe kek

[sharp wing]

I need to get all boss ships, aside from foxes

[ionic magnet]

last map drop for me

[vague token]

nothing like 78 oil per attack pvp fleet

[sharp wing]

meh wtf u run lol

[vague token]

my pvp fleet

lol

needs that 120 xp

[sharp wing]

oh well

[ionic magnet]

im at 50 oils xD

[vague token]

ooof

i bought some event oil so i jumped up a bit

[steep fog]

im only insta 120 on amagi and nagato

[sharp wing]

Actually, pvp fleet wouldn't handle all mob nodes i guess without zombies and healer

[steep fog]

vg has no exp lol

[vague token]

na they can do it on safe

[sharp wing]

well, i'm farming monarch, so just run 3:1

[vague token]

my namagi sara with 109 sanrui and 110 ykk/juneau clears 6 fights ez

[sharp wing]

w/ HMS bbs...

[vague token]

juneau CAN get low from rng though

just shuffle mid slot a bit

ykk tank slot

she'll never die

[sharp wing]

ykk tank...

well

[vague token]

it's on safe

so she easily absorbs everything

if you're on lethal then probably not

[sharp wing]

unless you get shit rng and she doesn't get single 1

[vague token]

na she just evades xD

[shy hazel]

time to spend a long time

in w11 w12 to grind 120 ships

lots of time to farm ships

[vague token]

oh boi

[shy hazel]

rmber

w12 has ssr

[vague token]

oh no

who is 12-4's drop again? xD

[lament lichen]

Choukai

[vague token]

oh

oh right the worse montpelier buff

[sharp wing]

The deredere Tako and Atago sister

[zenith tundra]

im not wasting oil in w11/12 to farm xp

definitely there are cheaper ways

with too many ships u lose mvp bonus and it becomes too much of an oil dump

[hot creek]

i just use 7-2 . cant get enough gold anyways

[sharp wing]

Well, let's not forget, not every1 can nolyfe

[zenith tundra]

if u farm more then 3 hrs already u run out of oil

unless u dont play the game

u will have oil problems

[sharp wing]

Unless i do 1200 comms, i have excess

But running w/ 11-12 w/ pvp fleet will fix that

[shy hazel]

@zenith tundra did u farm 50k

60k i mean

event

[vague token]

there may be cheaper ways to farm xp but there arent time efficient ones

xD

11-4 at least compresses all the ships pretty easily

[ionic magnet]

not to mention i want to collect those new ships anyways

[vague token]

and that

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

nothing to collect if u have all of them already

[ionic magnet]

thats when you stop doing w12

[shy hazel]

im more concerned about builds

can finally 100%

no gold for random builds tho

[vague token]

rip

[stark raft]

1400 purple boxes is around 13k shekels

[vague token]

yeah and how much time out of my life

salvaging all of them

[stark raft]

20 mins on an emulator

[vague token]

wut, really?

i feel like it'll be more

[sharp wing]

If you have like 500 storage, maybe

[stark raft]

I have my spare equipment +6 or whatever

just scrap everything else

[sharp wing]

I mean i probably will never need or use ~150 of my storage, but i can't let go of it

So usually 20-30 spare slots only

And doing 1k+ scraps w/ dat...

[stark raft]

desperation will do that

[sharp wing]

Also i only have like 200 bawxes

[stark raft]

atleast you can craft blues into purps all at once now

[ionic magnet]

isnt that an old feature

[stark raft]

yeet all your blues

[vague token]

i wish you could just sell purples

xD

take the boxes back akashi

i dont want em

[sharp wing]

Well, they are not even from Akashi technically

Just trash you pick on the field

[stark raft]

she just paints em and scams the shekels out of you

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

i have 60k with the daily 3x and sp0 and missions

till event ends

[vague token]

nice

[zenith tundra]

out of all the op gunboats for sanit louis farm i ended up using sandy

[vague token]

gotta invest early on sandy since ch12 is soon xD

[zenith tundra]

oathed her too

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

i wish there were more free kms units... getting to the fleet tech needed for fdg is not easy at all

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

Well, this event maps drop sharks too, so if you low on KMS tech, this is good opportunity

[vague token]

i need tirpitz and z46 T_T

[zenith tundra]

the only unit i don't have from event is u-73 since she's a bitch

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

My hardest was Bisco

~180 cubes

[zenith tundra]

18 cubes on jp for bismark

[sharp wing]

This is probably worst luck of all events

[zenith tundra]

9 draws

[sharp wing]

since server opened

[finite valve]

my worst was zepling 400 cubes for 1 copy

[sharp wing]

At least i finally got Aurora from wishing after 800+ cubes dumped on light

[finite valve]

and somehow i got 7 z46 out of that

lower rate my ass

[sharp wing]

I built KGV in 1st few cubes

[vague token]

oof

[zenith tundra]

still building in jp and no kgv from build in 2 servers

[sharp wing]

Also got sussex from event build

[finite valve]

sussex so ez to get

no sign of the monitor anywhere

[sharp wing]

Well, since i don't build anything besides Light outside event, i'm glad

I asked around and no1 get Abercrombie yet

[zenith tundra]

i have so may cubes i switched to special daily build for a sr sub

[sharp wing]

At least in my room

[finite valve]

well you can just check #trophy-room

and i have never seen 1 post of her

[sharp wing]

Well, checking all the images might be hard

[finite valve]

i think i saw only 1 post since release

[sharp wing]

Sounds about legit

found pic in trophy

back in early may

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

Too bad you cannot see likes on unobtained ship in archive

[steep fog]

can u get BM from light build

[sharp wing]

Terror and Erebus yes

But for whatever reason not Abercrombie

[steep fog]

wtf

[sharp wing]

Only heavy

[vague token]

abercrombie is hoovy build

[steep fog]

im still missing pow atago abercrombie from heavy

[sharp wing]

Well, poW and Atago can be obtained from anniversary ticket too. That is if you can wait 2-3 months

[zenith tundra]

i've been waiting since her build ended for that

[sharp wing]

Also they are not in event pools

Event pools don't have ex-event permanent ships...

[zenith tundra]

[sharp wing]

Also for whatever reason...

[zenith tundra]

we got an unless wishing well as well

[sharp wing]

Well, for me it was godsent xD

[zenith tundra]

i got centaur from it in jp. i don't think u can get any better then that

[sharp wing]

well

[vague token]

centaur

[sharp wing]

so wishing has ex-event perma ships at least

[steep fog]

if we get sandy kai right along with w12 that would be funky

[sharp wing]

Doubt

[zenith tundra]

too ez

[sharp wing]

• that's extra mini event

[vague token]

na they'll make us do ch12 without 120

then they'll drop 120, then sandy kai after that

;)

[steep fog]

well I will prolly do roon 1st

[vague token]

big troll

[sharp wing]

EN

[vague token]

wow roon gun volley time is really good

using it on minne and it's pretty cool

also is it just me or do the bullets converge xD

[zenith tundra]

i don't have it

[sharp wing]

converge?

like making X?

The pattern actually a bit inconsistent from what i see

[vague token]

uh i mean like the 2 outer ones

go to the center point

since it's 3 shots it isnt quite an x

it's 2 shots of 3

xD

so it's like central line, then an x

[sharp wing]

Well, as i say, pattern kinda inconsistent. They tend to take some weird trajectories..

I seen same w/ 152 gun

[vague token]

this is why i like french gun

xD

[sharp wing]

lol

tho 152 feels worse

[vague token]

3 single shots is easy to predict

since it doesnt have any weird aim patterns

with the lowest volley time

so they go faaaast

[sharp wing]

well, there is gun with sequential pattern, that also has weird trajectories

[zenith tundra]

mle should be better in almost any case

[vague token]

i only have 1 mle T_T

[sharp wing]

my mle is only PR i have

[vague token]

also sendai for some reason takes full ap damage from CA gun or maybe the font changed

cant really tell what's up with that

[sharp wing]

eh

[vague token]

also im blind so

xD

[zenith tundra]

i'd trade my 10 bps for mle for 2 for skc

[vague token]

we should have like pr bp gift, spend like 1k gold once per day, receive max like 3 per day

so you cant make dupe accounts

xD

friend list perks

[sharp wing]

Maybe you also say make guilds useful

But friend points shop is common thing in any game atm

Well, same for guild shop anyway

[vague token]

that's where im stealing that idea from xD

[zenith tundra]

al is a solo game with some online features

[sharp wing]

w/ chat features and pvp

[vague token]

isnt that most gachas?

[zenith tundra]

idk i only play al

[sharp wing]

That's pretty much description for any gacha tho

Aside of those, that actually have guild wars

or pve guild ladder

for events

w/ actual rewards, like currency

even not having pvp

[zenith tundra]

al only has chat

[sharp wing]

and useless ladders

w/ 0 rewards

[zenith tundra]

i don't mind that

no need for oil barons to get more stuff

[vague token]

well, it's weird that the game doesnt have any friend/guild mechanics when the core theme of the game is teamwork/friendship

eg it's azur lane