pvp

[sharp wing]

i dun want to look for guild

Unless it has no player rewards

[shy hazel]

if gw rewards are good

[odd schooner]

@shy hazel i know one person who's criticizing EN translation, never played EN, using app to translate jp text since he's playing JP

[shy hazel]

time to do gbf strat

[vague token]

wait why would i make en gr8 again

xD

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

kick all slaccers

500m score quota daily

[sharp wing]

yukie keeps trying to RAM Hiryuu to death in invulnerability...

[coral wren]

should i put my juneau in the middle or in the back since she is only level 101

[shy hazel]

i can play jp if u wan

👀

[cerulean estuary]

hiryu should be nerfed from 15 secs to 5 secs just like sodak in my opinion

[sharp wing]

Leipzig kai new RAM meta

[shy hazel]

i can understand jap but well

it still takes some time to comprehend atuff

[sharp wing]

Well, sodako much more durable tho...

[shy hazel]

if only story has choukai

[sharp wing]

Also Sodako comebacks from her skill after invul for 1.7k+ heals pretty fun

Also that's actually Washi skill

[shy hazel]

uss needs a,flagship

[cerulean estuary]

or if they cant nerfed hiryu buff sodak to 15 seconds too

[shy hazel]

for wasd to come back

[cerulean estuary]

uss iowa i think?

[sharp wing]

iowa is as far, as yamato tho

[coral wren]

honestly sodak was just as bad as hiryuu is now

my meta fleet isnt meta anymore 😦 is basically the complaint by everyone

nerf one thing a new meta will take its place

[sharp wing]

This is PVE game...

[cerulean estuary]

its all decade fault

[trim horizon]

here comes my first +9

[stone grove]

Re:TL whining
Apparently we TL and localise from CN
Also yes the crying is fucking stupid imho

[shy hazel]

bisko is bad and so shall iowa and yamato will be

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

yamato will have all the skills of amagi and nagato in one

[sharp wing]

Pls, no Yamato loli...

[shy hazel]

bo u dumb person

[coral wren]

i hope she is the loliest loli and she is meta in pvp so everyone is forced to use her

[shy hazel]

yamato is enty with black hair

entyface for flagships soon

[stone grove]

Inb4 Enterprise Kai has the USS flagship skill

[sharp wing]

There already cv buffer on us

[cerulean estuary]

bisko "other" skill should be named or related to unsinkable too for couple of seconds just like sodak

coz based on historical fact , she stand up against baragge of many BB's

royal navy said they sink her , german crew of bismarck said they scuttled her

[shy hazel]

it can make sense whay

lol

iowa didnt,even do much in the,war

only bombed some lands

[stone grove]

The USS buffer is far more restricted in buffing than any other faction buffer, though

[sharp wing]

The USS has strongest standalone ships, tho...

[stone grove]

My point was, it realistically prob wouldn't be Enty Kai but I bet we'll see another USS buffer

[shy hazel]

strong ships with almost shit synergy

wasd is exception

while kms is both weak and shit synergy

[sharp wing]

standalone ships are called that for a reason

[shy hazel]

ijn gets everything

[sharp wing]

tho USS has more of class/pair buffers thing

[shell heron]

oh wow, 4 refreshes to avoid a +9 on my last match this reset

[shy hazel]

hms has gr8 synergy but shit flagship

[lament lichen]

[cerulean estuary]

hey i ate a 2 +9 points

[shy hazel]

daxam will rage here soon

[sharp wing]

Shit on QE fast

[shell heron]

you're still 1 point ahead of me tho

[cerulean estuary]

QE chibi is cute as hell though

[shy hazel]

told u pvp is,dead

[cerulean estuary]

look at that movement ( map tiles ) and firing animation

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

very dead season indeed. when it becomes hard to even get +1 per reset at this stage

[shy hazel]

when will uss gets its own amagi

[sharp wing]

Independence actually has synergy skill w/ Cleves...

[ionic magnet]

phew almost forgot 5 charges

made it just in time

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

cant get any +1 now

peeps are always 33 or 34 pts ahead kek

[craggy cove]

Oops, missed 4 pvps

oh well, guess theres next season

[shell heron]

oh looked someone moved. 31 points ahead

[trim horizon]

mfw you missclick the refresh and skip a +1 again

[shell heron]

happened before. fatfingered the refresh

[sharp wing]

I mean, i lost 4 tixs and i'm 10/10 148 atm... So it is pretty ded indeed

[craggy cove]

Oh wait I still got up to 12th after missing 4 fights

alrighty then

and 1st is only 16 points ahead

[shell heron]

I see 2, possibly 3 sandbaggers on my list. There goes any chance of +1 before I sleep

[ionic magnet]

dang famine 11 pts ahead

[shy hazel]

hooloo

furst top ten this season?

aim for it

or disappear

[ionic magnet]

idk i cant really camp on 3rd reset

4am is just as bad as it gets

[vague token]

oof

trying out no torp bulge, just more boilers xD

[shell heron]

when torp VGs are still standard

[vague token]

there's still a lot of them

they make me nervous since sara doesnt have the come back mechanic xD

but with the power of 3 boilers and saint louis engine boost

i think i am le fast

so it should be fine

[trim horizon]

35 pts is not enough for +1 or is it ?

[ionic magnet]

yea 35 pts is already +1

[trim horizon]

wew, got really lucky, +1 and then matched against the r2

[shy hazel]

die in a fire

[vague token]

wow harsh

[vague token]

yo i got it, 25/25 mle

=D

ultimate power!

[shy hazel]

what can mle,do

when

u use saratoga

and minne

[lament lichen]

finished a rudder

time to miss even more with nagato

[vague token]

wut, i dont use minne, i have 108 saint louis

close enough

xD

gotta get dat free xp

[ionic magnet]

13/25 already for my 2nd triple 381

meanwhile my other bps are still 20/25

[vague token]

rip

[zenith tundra]

i have 17 for my 2nd triple 410

still no skc 203 or washing machine

[vague token]

=(

[ionic magnet]

rigged

[zenith tundra]

on the positive note those are the only 2 limited i dont have yet

[vague token]

it's so weird seeing 3 shots in sequence over .4 volley time

like weiiiird

[zenith tundra]

i like how well that works against main fleet tho

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

1 projectile for 1 target and it doesn't even move 100% efficiency

[vague token]

i should check my roon gun progress

oh roon is 24/25

neat

game is rewarding my well known CA bias

xD

[zenith tundra]

the only problem i can think of that the 203 mle has for roon is that ap 1 projectile pierces and hits nothing mostly of the time

[ionic magnet]

im so confused on all these pr gears

everything looks the same lol

[vague token]

oh yeah that would be weird

since it swaps

lol

[zenith tundra]

if the spread is terrible on 203 proto skc i might use mle in pvp for roon

[vague token]

wait what is the spread on roon gun

[zenith tundra]

idk

[vague token]

ill check

[zenith tundra]

i want to see for myself once i get it

[vague token]

well, it SAYS 22

compared to 10 on mle

[ionic magnet]

why does syanda never move when hes on my list

[zenith tundra]

ask him lol

[vague token]

doesnt he rush instantly?

or does he do the 1 per hour thing

i forget

[ionic magnet]

yea hes one of the rushers iirc

is he syndfell

cant tag syanda kek

[zenith tundra]

Syanda 自動塩ディスペンサー#1337

if u try to ping him

[vague token]

o.O

[ionic magnet]

@ Syanda 自動塩ディスペンサー#1337 time to move

nvm ill just wait

[zenith tundra]

lol

[ionic magnet]

im scared

lol

[vague token]

wimped out jk

i wouldnt do it either

;)

[shy hazel]

@lime rivet

time to move

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

do you really think syanda would collude with us

[zenith tundra]

i'm trying to use nep gun as aux for bismark and it shoots really weird. like the projectiles don't even follow a pattern

[vague token]

xD

some guns arent meant for 90 range ;)

[shy hazel]

its not collusion what

[zenith tundra]

it has no pattern tbh. like 2 projectiles almost stacked together go top and 1 boottom

then next all stacked

[vague token]

wut

[zenith tundra]

like this

[vague token]

weird

[zenith tundra]

it makes no sense lol

[vague token]

maybe that's the spread?

cause it has 18 degree spread

[zenith tundra]

the problem is pattern

it's random

[vague token]

might as well use russian gun

xD

[zenith tundra]

it's a nice reward for investing too much into research

[vague token]

which one

nepgun?

[zenith tundra]

yeah the bugged gun

[vague token]

ok xD

[zenith tundra]

imo nothing will beat tbtsk on bismark at least pve

it can actually hit stuff at 90 range

[vague token]

ap projectile speed and the shots are densely packed means it's the only thing that works

too bad the cl gun single is trash, it'd be a neat alternate

the purple one with 360 degree aiming to be specific

[zenith tundra]

i was hopping nep gun was an alternative somehow but it's bugged so can't even say

[vague token]

ah

is it supposed to be a scatter gun or a lockon xD

the wiki says lock on

[lime rivet]

@ionic magnet gonna blitz

Gimme 10 mins

[vague token]

woo!

[shy hazel]

told u

[finite valve]

tfw you need ppl to be in top 20 to even get +1

maybe i should just lost ticket for more bonus

[shell heron]

Wished someone on my list would blitz. But it's famine and I know he'll sandbag til the end

[hot creek]

wait, nepgun is bugged?

[zenith tundra]

if u have another explanation for that pattern it isn't

[shell heron]

No set pattern it would seem. Been using it on nagato myself and its not predictable

[finite valve]

try it on VG?

[shell heron]

Perhaps it's better on CLs. I should test it

[zenith tundra]

is there a bug report for it? too lazy to check

[finite valve]

[lime rivet]

Done. 2058 points

[finite valve]

need 2067 for +1

boooo

[lime rivet]

Missed 2 attacks and lost one to a bullshit draw

[shell heron]

Do you have me on your list? I'm about to do my 5 as well

[shy hazel]

bullshit draw sounds like

hiryuu memes

[ionic magnet]

oof only 32 pts ahead

[finite valve]

my first BS draw is foxes v foxes

[ionic magnet]

[lime rivet]

Yeah, was a namaryuu, but funnily enough, it wasn't the hiryuu

[ionic magnet]

thanks anyways kek

[zenith tundra]

nanoda?

[lime rivet]

It was my fucking yukikaze ramming into god damn last enemy amagi

[shy hazel]

nuclear yukikaze

[finite valve]

i am amaze she manage to kill amagi by ramming

lel

[modern tree]

Ramming done by a DD tgis fast deals roughly like 450 damage

No joke

[finite valve]

not that i notice but most VG ramming into back line got the short end of the stick

[modern tree]

They usually have like half the backliners hp, yes

[lime rivet]

Unless it's like, Eugen ramming, vanguards don't have the hp pool for it. But if you run eugen in pvp you've already lost anyway

[finite valve]

not using gloworm for ramming dps

shame on you

[modern tree]

It's just funny that ykkz barrage torps deal like half a damage she can deal with her face

[lime rivet]

Leipzig retro/eugen ram meta

S2g i will run that on my defense team

[coral wren]

Glowworm and Charles Ausburne

[finite valve]

my def team atm is just a waifu fleet

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

they cant ram if theyre dead

[finite valve]

might change to full PR once i got everyone oathed and 110

[ionic magnet]

[zenith tundra]

u mean 120?

[finite valve]

110 120 whatever lel

[vague token]

110 is way less xp than 120

[ionic magnet]

i hope you guys saved up cog chips

1.6k per SR

[finite valve]

if we have 120 by next week i am going to lvl up my pvp team first

meme def later

[zenith tundra]

more like 110 is half xp u need for 120

[vague token]

i dont have the xp anyways lol

[ionic magnet]

same lol

[vague token]

i have 11k cog chips though

so that's fine i guess

[zenith tundra]

nepgun is bugged on vg as well. projectiles stacking together randomly there as well

[vague token]

=(

[finite valve]

welp just take pic and report i guess

[ionic magnet]

what is nepgun btw

[shell heron]

The PR 152

[zenith tundra]

i made a post in bug report waiting for confirmation

[vague token]

pr 152mm triple

[ionic magnet]

got it

[vague token]

or w/e

[shell heron]

And done rushing. 2079 score so easy +1 off me

[vague token]

woo

[zenith tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804420801527810/586430691718201354/Screenshot_2019-06-07-12-44-53-249_com.sec.android.app.sbrowser.png

whatever

[hot creek]

does jp nepgun have same issues?

[lament lichen]

negligible acc

[vague token]

wait it's by design?

wut

[zenith tundra]

i think it is random pattern by design

[vague token]

eww

is neptune a clumsy maid or something and cant aim her trident? xD

[modern tree]

Yeettune has a barrage that vomits ap projectiles for like a minute

[vague token]

oh ok

i guess it is a reload beast

the only faster guns are joke/meme guns

2.86 base

[modern tree]

Her gun dps is probably pretty irrelevant considering AP guns on cl fire faster than he and she has built in reload steroid

[vague token]

and no volley time

kinda sounds like a super russian gun with less spread issues

xD

[zenith tundra]

it looks way less bad on a cl tbh

it's that 90 range for bismark that makes everything terrible with spread

[modern tree]

Only glorious german tbtsk is fit for lord Bismarck

[zenith tundra]

petty sure some people out there would prefer 20 fp over actually hitting stuff

[vague token]

xD

gotta pad that fleeeeet power

[modern tree]

20 fp can't possibly be worth making a bad skill even worse

Does it have to be a cl gun? 127 is probably really good with 90 range

[vague token]

only works with cl guns

sadly

"When equipped with CL guns in the secondary slot"

=(

also sad is her efficiency is lower

so you not only lose 35% damage

but compared to other cl aux, it's already worse

180 efficiency vs 200 usually

le balance

[steep fog]

the worst thing is when u are at 0ammo

it cant kill shit

[vague token]

additive penalties yay

[finite valve]

when you so bored / got nothing else to do you make a new acc of the same game

lel

[zenith tundra]

are u done already with pr grind?

all ship already 120 xp?

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i don't have oil to do all the stuff i want to

[shy hazel]

120xp

[finite valve]

nah was talking about you i don't play JP

[shy hazel]

madman

im done with prs but not

money

[vague token]

ill get monarch soommmeeday

[finite valve]

already on my last PR

[zenith tundra]

i hate pr grind. because of that i couldn't finish my vg xp in time. need 400k on belfast 600k on yukikaze and 800k on juneau

[vague token]

=(

[finite valve]

for 120?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[finite valve]

i am going slow for the whole 120 farm thing

[vague token]

78 oil per attack in 11-4 fun times

[finite valve]

i can just sit out of pvp for a few season if need be

[zenith tundra]

thanks to sp0 and this stupid event farm i ended up buying all 2k oil packs

[finite valve]

[zenith tundra]

is there a reason why u can't equip 2 washing machines on same ship?

[finite valve]

too OP i would guess?

+80 eva basically render DD class useless

[zenith tundra]

u can still have 1 ship with +75 tho

[finite valve]

since ppl want to use CA for end world

[zenith tundra]

it's as weird thing imo

[finite valve]

that's with a beaver which is unique

but if i have to guess might have to do with the ability code or something

not like i know

1 ship at +75 eva is better than a full fleet of + 80 eva

[vague token]

hmm

[modern tree]

Tfw you hit rank 2 at 5/10

[vague token]

xD

[modern tree]

Gensui rush xd

[finite valve]

more like gensui rush gone wrong

[modern tree]

I am 29 points ahead of gensui atm, I am pretty sure I will hit it when burning to 5/10 because Sandy. This is why I don't understand sandbagging for gensui

And not for being the best

[finite valve]

that is depend on the server

avrora ain't that casual to non sang bagging

[shy hazel]

holy,crap

[lament lichen]

ah fk

chibigoku why

[shy hazel]

almost forgot to pvo again

[finite valve]

29 min till reset

still good lel

[lament lichen]

why u only +34

[zenith tundra]

u sandbagged too much

[shy hazel]

cos dead season

[lament lichen]

famine is still 4 points ahead of me last time i checked

[shy hazel]

famine does magic

[finite valve]

+2 this reset

not bad for a dead season

lel

[ionic magnet]

+0 last three resets

kill me

[lament lichen]

wheres that sandbagging guide

[vague token]

xD

gonna have to do that logging of all the players

[shy hazel]

vy u make it instead

i keep forgetting bout it

where is the project head anyways

i dont see him here lately

[cerulean estuary]

what ship is timer 99:99:99 ? wat da

[shy hazel]

u got bugged

[cerulean estuary]

famine top 2 , overpoints

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

lol

[lament lichen]

he averages +1 per reset

[ionic magnet]

how

[lament lichen]

uh

[cerulean estuary]

shaking my head and hips

[lament lichen]

you just get people who are within 10-15 points and hope they are rushers

[ionic magnet]

[lament lichen]

[ionic magnet]

maybe he has a list of rushers

[shy hazel]

famine has cheats

[ionic magnet]

[lament lichen]

only 3 behind him now

[cerulean estuary]

thats RNG and TACTICS though

[lime rivet]

Done my rushing

[ionic magnet]

[trim horizon]

[coral wren]

Eh, would easily take r1 on shitshington if not for those 6 attempts...

[steep fog]

kek

[modest elbow]

[shy hazel]

[analog hare]

Jintsuu,Naka,Sendai
will their buff stack each other ??

[shy hazel]

naka buff shouldnt proc

its the same skill as sendai

[analog hare]

well then

[vague token]

naka retro when

[quaint ferry]

Hot damn, Mogami kai tanks torps like a champ

Its the only answer I got so far against Jintsuu Sendai bs

[buoyant parrot]

wait? when did they become a problem

what Server you are from?

[quaint ferry]

Sandy

[red nexus]

Sendai?

[quaint ferry]

Amagi/Nagato/Hiryuu Sendai/Jintsuu/Yukikaze and Juneau/Jintsuu/Yukikaze get annoying specially if they full oath

I don't have many 110 ships to counter everything that is in pvp, those I kinda struggle unless I get Mogami in which somehow deals quite a bit of damage before dying to second wave of barrages

Whole rng shit and stupid ship pathing mostly fuck me up

[red nexus]

What is a hiryuu sendai?

[quaint ferry]

They are ships one if a carrier another is a cruiser

They are ships from Sakura Empire that people use in this game mode called pvp

They are from this mobile video game called Azur Lane based on real life world war warships

[red nexus]

Wow... cancer

[quaint ferry]

Yeah radiation can give you cancer, world war 2 was kinda fucked up I agree

[red nexus]

You could have just said sendai is a bote

[quaint ferry]

Where's the fun in that

[red nexus]

Amagi/Nagato/Hiryuu Sendai/Jintsuu/Yukikaze and Juneau/Jintsuu/Yukikaze get annoying specially if they full oath

Because this is just a random sequence of Names and dashes that make zero sense

[stark raft]

They are all ships used in PVP

[quaint ferry]

The video game Azur lane has formations of 6 ships, consisting of 3 backlines called Main and 3 frontlines called Vanguard.
I tried putting the dashes as i thought it was common knowledge that I was trying to explain what formation I was encountering in my excersice matches, though I guess i should draw an image so you can understand it better

[coral wren]

Lmao

[quaint ferry]

Amagi Jintsuu
Nagato Yukikaze
Hiryuu Sendai

Better?

[red nexus]

See, now you're being consistant

[shy hazel]

why are memers in my pvp paradise

[red nexus]

Now you make sense

Well done

[quaint ferry]

We got a slow learner here

[shy hazel]

both of u makes 0 sense

pvp is all about sandbagging

[stark raft]

[quaint ferry]

Yeah but there's those trihards in pvp

[stark raft]

Just reset and get that +3

[shy hazel]

if u want to teach someone use your name correctly

ask them to read the pins

[quaint ferry]

I actually got a +6 once, and the one i faced was 100 positions away from me

[shy hazel]

all that matters is end season ranks

casuals get out

[modern tree]

UI is broken and can show you about any random number if you skip the count up part

[red nexus]

<N1/N2/N3 N4/N5/N6 and N7/N5/N6> is not a proper algorithm

[stark raft]

[red nexus]

How is anyone supposed to make sense of that shit?

[quaint ferry]

You don't think it be like it is but it do my man

[stark raft]

Are Ship Names Real If My Eyes Aren't Real

[shy hazel]

here i am thinkng pvp chat is active

then i only see two memers fighting over

[quaint ferry]

Why would pvp be active in the first place aside flexing sandbagging strats

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

@shy hazel that's glorious, isn't it

[shy hazel]

is what casuals think

well the hardliners aint here anyways

wtv

[stark raft]

sHoUlD i PuT PeArL oN mY JuNeAu Guys??

[shy hazel]

[quaint ferry]

Put it on your Amagi

[shy hazel]

can i use minne in pvp

enty is so op nerf pls

[quaint ferry]

how do you beat Eldridge

[ionic magnet]

if you want to meme properly just say QE sucks

[shy hazel]

hey daxam is here

keep quiet

[ionic magnet]

[quaint ferry]

If you wanna meme just say triple BM is meta

[stark raft]

do i use QE in my hms team

[shy hazel]

well its not like u have a choice in en

jp can use centy instead

[coral wren]

baguette event should soon after big dick brother bismarck, right?

iirc it's the only event that's left

[stark raft]

mikasa still exist

[shy hazel]

that new event or re run

[warm saffron]

is WASD still good?

[lament lichen]

Not that great anymore

They don’t have a strong barrage

And damage output is a bit lower than nagato and amagi

[warm saffron]

i see

[lament lichen]

They are still usable bit there are better options out there

[warm saffron]

ok cool ty

also should i use nagato + amagi + enterprise then?

i dont have hiryu

[lament lichen]

Go farm ch 3

Or was it ch 2

Hiryuu is a drop that you can easily get her

[hot creek]

As long as you have Nagato Amagi, you're fine

Enterprise is a decent substitute. Hood is useable as well.

[warm saffron]

👍

[hot creek]

but yeah, you should still probably work on getting Hiryuu

[coral wren]

Amagi hood and e is actually pretty solid

[warm saffron]

yeah i guess

i was just doing 5-2 for 6F6s

[coral wren]

way better than hms atm

[warm saffron]

to replace my seafangs

[lament lichen]

Hiryuu in 3-3

[warm saffron]

👌

i think i'll do 3-2

it drops the sb2c

3-3 only one im interested in is 76mm but i have enough of those

[vale juniper]

H3h3h3

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

im bothered by that VG positioning tbh

[lunar veldt]

just for keks

3 sec salvo

[trim horizon]

Tje game baiting me for those +9

[ionic magnet]

kgv is better as flag imo

that barrage hits all enemy backline

[lunar veldt]

Nah ws is way better

[ionic magnet]

why is that

[trim horizon]

[lunar veldt]

at flag

her barrage hits left

after that hits right

that means aiming at both IJN carriers

with monarch/kgv at the sides

who can hit backlines

it is instant death to one side

before second airstrike

i put QE for memes

[ionic magnet]

if you think so

[lunar veldt]

it works

kgv sucks

as flag

ws at the side is a waste

okay lets say u put her as flag

lol

waste

divine marksman hits the upper left

after that mid?

for what

lets say u are facing hiryuu/nagato/amagi

u snipe hiryu

ure ws will target nagato next

that is a huge nono

[ionic magnet]

i dont know where to start tbh

[vagrant veldt]

huge nono is sniping hiryuu

[modern tree]

Just play Monarch instead of kgv like a normal person

[lunar veldt]

what is more dangerous?

nagato or amagi

definietly amagi right?

therefore

WS flag

is the best

nah u want to snipe hiryuu first

the longer she stays alive

the worst it is for u

[ionic magnet]

as if your ws can snipe someone in less than 30 secs with that comp

[lunar veldt]

huh

[vagrant veldt]

120 WS with accuracy gear can't claim to always land snipes on Amagi

[ionic magnet]

and you call it a waste

[lunar veldt]

?

the true hms line up would be

monarch/WS kai/centaur

[ionic magnet]

oh god

[lunar veldt]

WS supports monarch on the left

before second airstrike the left flank is already dead

once thats done WS will aim the right side

that means 2 main guns aiming at the right side

plus with centaur by the time the 2nd slavo hits

u effectively killed off the right flank

[odd schooner]

Centaurrrr

[lunar veldt]

but heh EN does not have WS kai

[odd schooner]

[lunar veldt]

and nvr put WS at the side

[odd schooner]

Gonna enjoy sirius tiddies for the time being

[lunar veldt]

its dumb

its like putting hood as flag and QE at side

which is super dumb

and ez points

[odd schooner]

That qe hood issue never died till November iirc

A lot of def has hood middle

[lunar veldt]

yeah bad players

smh

[odd schooner]

Yostar needs better rewards for pvp

[shy hazel]

yostar needs to remove pvp

[odd schooner]

[vagrant veldt]

yostar isn't responsible for that

[trim horizon]

[coral wren]

Doesn't ws deal like funny numbers?

If she manages to hit anything at all

[lunar veldt]

not sure for EN

[stable panther]

i'm using the nakaga backline in PVP. which gun is prefeerable? the core shop twin 381 or the 406mk6 gun?

[lunar veldt]

but WS kai is a diff story

https://puu.sh/CHEes/a995a34ae9.mp4

[coral wren]

Well ofc i'm talking about ws with no kai

[trim horizon]

twin 381

[ionic magnet]

so he's not talking abt EN all this time 👀

[lunar veldt]

ill just kms

yeah without her kai

[stable panther]

okay, twin 381, thank you very much!

[lunar veldt]

she isnt really that good

[elder crane]

Her skillshot is nice and reliable but without the retrofit skill change the damage it does is... meh

It even is debuffed in PvP, apparently only using 80% of FP stat specifically in PvP

Basically it does something like 1/4 of the good 70% barrages, with the advantage of being fast (15s), not tied to main gun, 100%, different targeting (farther), and retargeting once the first target is sank

[coral wren]

Yeah, i'd rather prefer hood cucking me with 70% again and again than having ws

[fringe plover]

Can anyone send screenshot of avrora/sandy pvp leaderboard?

[modern tree]

Sandy

[fringe plover]

Thanks

[elder crane]

Avrora

From before:
...yeah
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/583339152959995959/Screenshot_2019-05-23-12-54-19-738_com.YoStarEN.AzurLane.png

look at that timer

aurora likely becomes top for 120
for the short moment before PRs come online

[fringe plover]

Imagine roon with 160 eva

[elder crane]

Nah it's Louis, Roon just catches everything thrown at her, speed is too low

[fringe plover]

But they have same speed

26

[sharp wing]

Saint skill

[fringe plover]

Uh oh I forgot skills exist

[sharp wing]

Louis is 34 w/ maxed skill, so faster, than CLs

[elder crane]

Roon is usable if you somehow squeeze in another speed boosting gear, like how you'd run Azuma
the problem is she doesn't offer anything over Louis in compensation for that

idk if she's even better just base without that compensation and ignoring speed diff, for PvP

[sharp wing]

Louis w/ PR gun + her skill cannot be beaten easily

[elder crane]

well, vs non-Aurora teams it doesn't have a significant advantage, just no disadvantage, afaik

the main benefit is that she shuts down Aurora

[sharp wing]

Aurora is like 5% of fleets anyway

Not even worth mentioning atm

[elder crane]

well, clearly better vs 5%, for no loss/possible slight advantage elsewhere, I'd call that a win

[fringe plover]

Btw what do you think will Eldridge become useful in lv120 meta?

[sharp wing]

thb there no slot for eldridge much

[elder crane]

her timing is pretty shit, she's not tanky and slow af, and burns ignore her skill

and ofc there's too many good options around

[fringe plover]

[elder crane]

she'll probs be okay

but you'd never run her preferentially imo

[sharp wing]

I mean... Put her in middle so she survives till 20 sec cd goes off? Then u need to put Juneau or something else squish front.
Put her front? She dies, before skill CD is off.
Put her back? maybe... But still fck up positioning
Or sacrifice juneau for her? that's no-no

[elder crane]

she needs to get hit to proc her too

[sharp wing]

getting hit is no problem

[elder crane]

and at 15% she needs to get hit a lot

[sharp wing]

surviving long enough and not putting yr vg at big disadvantage during that time is a problem

[elder crane]

in the slots that take low-damage hits, they take too much damage overall

in the slots that can keep her alive to 20s, mostly take higher damage hits and fewer ones

[fringe plover]

Easy to proc against DD, but with CA`s guns cd it would be difficult

[sharp wing]

It was mostly proced by CVs (enty) back in the days

[elder crane]

DD guns mostly hit the tank/offtank slots though, which might take too much heat for Eld to reliably survive

plus idk if just one shield is enough to be worth running Eld for

[fringe plover]

One more question, what would be better, louis/jesus/nanoda or louis/jesus/somefatCA?

[elder crane]

The whole point of running Louis for the CA (well, one of the major ones) was to keep the fleet speed up...
You want 2 CL speed ships with Ykkz and at least 2 speed boosting gear (in addition to Badge)
running CA over ykkz would need, what, squeezing 3 more speed boosting gear to maintain it?
At that point might as well give up on that

[steep fog]

huh not torp bulge?

[wicked rivet]

what are best for ibuki?

rudder and oxytorp?

[elder crane]

If you lead with Louis, Bulge is pretty much mandatory

but if you put her 2nd, it's not necessary anymore

with 120, it's kinda viable to run Juneau in tank slot

Ibuki should probs use at least one oxytorp, yeah, since why else would you run her
Bulge if leading probably
If not, and you still want defensive aux, rudder should be good

[hollow vector]

Hello. I have laffey, portland, helena, ayanami all retro. I was wondering which should i be using for pvp

[torpid shuttle]

it'll take just a moment, pvp is sometimes slow

[hollow vector]

[elder crane]

All of those 4 are usable for PvP but very much not meta ships, Aya somewhat excluded
Helena, then Port, then Laff is how I'd order the other 3 in terms of how useful they are in PvP (more useful first)

[torpid shuttle]

@hollow vector

[hollow vector]

So what are your recommendation for vanguard ships in pvp? So i can start prioritising lvling them up

[elder crane]

Aya is used in torpedo-nuking vanguards
Helena is used as a buff ship, if you can figure out how to use her timing well
Port is a tank, though not that great for PvP (still very usable)
Laffey.... has decent DpS, I suppose?

see pins

[hollow vector]

im using nagato and the foxes for backline

theres graph and numbers

[elder crane]

I dropped 7 matches this season

[hollow vector]

Where can i get amagi

[elder crane]

I agree, for now WaSD imo is no better than HMS (with PRs) probably

Amagi is event only, Crimson Echoes

[hollow vector]

okay

[elder crane]

and yep, it's pretty annoying to not have her

Well, tbh HMS with PRs is actually quite good
hmmm
maybe just downtier WASDE for now?

I haven't used that in so long, idk which is better in the current meta anymore... (A vs E, I think it's still prolly Amagi?)

idk, WaSDA crushes foxes I find, on offense, much more than the reverse

And washdak semi-no-selling the aviation damage

and ofc the heavy armor also mitigating most barrages too

I think it gets outtraded by namagi though, and very consistently

as you said, too low output I think is the issue

As some CN guy lamented,
"From last June to June this year. . . South China Enterprise successfully changed from T0 apex to T5 bottom (escape)"

Also sad how KMS was DoA
That guy suggests, and I agree, there was a chance for that team to be among the top before Amagi happened

*this is with CN/JP ship release timings

[midnight heron]

another round of "rng can go fuck itself"

jesus man idk how some enemy yuki can evade/1 dmg almost every single hit yet my yuki takes 2 torps for full dmg

[charred sable]

Start grinding your main PvP fleet in prep for lvl 120 right around the corner lol

[stark raft]

I just reset if mine takes torp dmg

[elder crane]

Hmm does lv120 maxed Amagi with HFCR and Nagato buff fire early enough to hit into the rudder evade?
Does anything normally hit that timing?

[charred sable]

RIP my plans of experimenting with HMS setups

[elder crane]

I think maybe Wash skill does?

[lament lichen]

You will hit the rudder timing on second barrage

[stark raft]

Most my HMS are 2.5m exp banked

[elder crane]

I just tested and 2nd Amagi barrage as outlined above but at 110 hits around 23-24s in

Rudder is just 20-22s

[midnight heron]

tfw da highest stored xp i hav is ~1m lul

[stark raft]

Hardest to bank exp on is fucking juneau

[elder crane]

I've 1 mil on Juneau already :P

[stark raft]

Jun is doing my sanrui grind

[elder crane]

From getting her to 200 aff

[charred sable]

You'll get 200 affection naturally from the 120 grind

It's literally lvl 1->110 all over again

[stark raft]

I wish my 2.5m banked on bel was on ykkz instead

[elder crane]

Well since I banked XP on her in ch11 with the 200 aff grind... It was dual-purpose

Didn't lose anything for doing it

[charred sable]

Yeah, I'm definitely going to start grinding CH11 right after I exchange for all the gold boxes in event exchange

[analog hare]

CA PR, wich aux ya guys will consider to use ??

[sharp wing]

Lol, Still no Aotn on Sandy

No1 wants to rush +9s

[elder crane]

PR rudder, bulge if 1st ship in vanguard

possibly pearl, but imo likely Louis and Neptune are too tanky to make good use of that

[sharp wing]

yeah, pearl there might be not well suited

some main most likely will die 1st

inb4 juneau pearl on Saint tank comp

[ionic hill]

shit, i fucked up

[sharp wing]

[ionic hill]

how2solve

[sharp wing]

Wait few resets

are you on Washi or something?

[ionic hill]

this is so sad

im on avrora

[sharp wing]

Oh, RIP

On Sandy, if i lose too many tickets, i just wait till Saturday 1st reset or last reset on Friday to push for Aotn. But that won't work on Avrora most likely

Gib coins

[shell heron]

Gib me that project. Haven't seen a sanrui focused one in a while

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

yeah i could use that, i only need 4 bps for dev 25

[sharp wing]

I just got 2 8hrs in a row... And they give 8 bps per project, but coins dried

Did u convert?

Mine is at dev12 atm

[stark raft]

open unused boxes and start scrapping

[vague token]

yeah ive used all my general bps

[sharp wing]

oh well

[stark raft]

I think 40 purples was around 400 shekels

[sharp wing]

I don't even keep them

[vague token]

there's no way im opening 1k purple boxes

and then slowly salvaging them

why cant we quick sell boxes xD

or convert to plates

10:1

i could use some more t2 aux

[elder crane]

Juneau pearl is actually what CN recommends on those comps

[stark raft]

6k is just 600 boxes

[vague token]

is juneau lead on those or off tank

[elder crane]

Lead, but at 120

[stark raft]

do it for your waifu

[vague token]

oh ok

[sharp wing]

I actually think Juneau only viable

[elder crane]

which we're getting 120 soon anyways

[vague token]

cause 110 she dies too fast with like pearl/bulge

xD

[sharp wing]

Actually, on offense i always run Jun tank

[elder crane]

but the usual is to have jun mid with pearl/engine iirc

and the PR lead instead

[vague token]

yeah

[elder crane]

just that even if she leads, she takes pearl

[vague token]

gotcha

[elder crane]

or, I suppose it's especially?

cause if the PR isn't leading, it defs doesn't sink fast enough

[vague token]

atm i have saint louis pearl/beaver lead xD

cause lol missing 690 hp

from dev 25

[sharp wing]

she still has med armor

[elder crane]

ehh, not so sure that beaver is better than bulge

[vague token]

i mean, if you dont put evade

you dont multiply any evade with her skill

[sharp wing]

actually i see Cn run wheel+beaver on saint

[vague token]

there's no reason to run her over roon if you dont give her evade gear

[elder crane]

that's the other reason why no pearl on her

[vague token]

oh ok xD

[elder crane]

nah the main one is the speed boost

azuma comps for example put double gyro on azuma

[vague token]

yeah but azuma's base ehp is already insane xD

[sharp wing]

azuma is BC basically

[vague token]

7.5k lol

hmm yes

[elder crane]

yep, which is why Roon doesn't work well in PvP

[vague token]

is this Hood?

xD

Hood in vanguard slot

seems legit

[sharp wing]

with more Fp, than hood xD

[elder crane]

her guns also split between VG and main with the 310

[vague token]

no, hood should have more but barely

[elder crane]

just like a main fleet ship

[vague token]

literally hood in the vanguard lol

[elder crane]

also ignores rotating shields, not that that's a thing in PvP

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

Well, 310 is arcing, like that 280 something

[elder crane]

283

[vague token]

shark gun

[sharp wing]

Deutch gun, that works bad w/ her skill, lol

[vague token]

might be good to run ap for azuma lol

[sharp wing]

200 iq designs

[elder crane]

But yeah preliminary testing has CN peeps put Namayuu Azuma at T0 with no one at T1

everyone else gets pushed down 2 tiers

[vague token]

joy

back to ijn overlords

thanks pr

[elder crane]

and Namazuma FdG at T-0.5

[sharp wing]

powercreep never was more real

I dread Azuma bps farm

lol

[elder crane]

And apparently Azuma at around dev20 is already the clear favourite for Namayuu

FdG around there apparently isn't good enough yet

[vague token]

=/

i mean, even without 20% mg efficiency

it's fine

[sharp wing]

And you can't really do 2 decisive at time much, esp w/ 5 general bps per event, lol

[vague token]

you get 12 for free

and 25% free damage

based on distance

so who even cares about dev 25 and 30

it's 1k hp, (6k hp still fatter than most vanguards lol)

[elder crane]

they peg Namayuu normals at about 60% offense winrate vs dev20 Namayuu Azuma

[vague token]

and 5 evade (w/e)

maybe ap guns might be a thing for her

[elder crane]

About similar results with HMS too

the backline pressure is what they think is contributing a lot to the win, with her shooting at main half the time

[vague token]

yeah

i mean she functions like even less rng torp defense

but she works on offense

you get mixed pressure

so even if you whiff vanguard

you got a chance to smack main

less wasted damage = sooner you kill enemies = less damage you take

it's quite clear

i dunno what you can even do to stop her besides more heavy armor

310 is he right?

[elder crane]

iirc yep

[sharp wing]

ye

[vague token]

=/

well, the good news is we dont have to worry about her for probably at least 6 months

i suppose

[elder crane]

but yeah, currently the meme is that FdG was added to try to make KMS viable but will also just make Namagi even stronger

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

since Azuma frees up Hiryuu's slot Nation-wise

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

lol

[vague token]

and since heavy armor walls out ws kai

you dont have to worry as much

well heavy + 10k base hp

lol

[elder crane]

more like the HP

[vague token]

well it's both

heavy still takes waaaay less than medium

xD

it helps

[elder crane]

WSkai and monarch barrage are both BBAP, which is 120 vs 130 on heavy vs med

[sharp wing]

Both amagi and Nyaga have hard time w/ heavy armor too

on other hand

[elder crane]

and the new 457 AP gun has an even narrower difference

[vague token]

wait

[elder crane]

and is apparently used in WSkai comps for those who have it

[vague token]

the barrage is AP+?

or AP

cause if it's basic ap

it's 20% difference

[elder crane]

Monarch? BB AP

[vague token]

130 on med vs 110 heavy

[elder crane]

oh whoops

[sharp wing]

some of them have not regular

[elder crane]

ignore that

[vague token]

xD

i mean

if the barrage has unique armor

i wouldnt be surprised

[sharp wing]

some of them get mix of AP and AP+

[elder crane]

nah, Monarch is normal BBAP mods afaik

[vague token]

because lol what are ammo rules

ok

so yeah heavy helps a ton

130 -> 110 is like

[elder crane]

oh wait nvm

[vague token]

15%

[elder crane]

it's not

[vague token]

more durability

or w/e

oh

[elder crane]

0.4/1.25/1.2

let me check that

[vague token]

oh it does have unique ammo

dear yostar why must you torture us like this

xD

"here are the rules"

THERE ARE NO RULES

[elder crane]

it's Warspite that has 30/130/110, the old BBAP mods

[vague token]

ah

[elder crane]

Monarch trades 0.05 on med on old BBAP mods for 0.1 on light
but is now just worse than buffed BBAP

[vague token]

rip

maybe we will have to use Georgia's SHS to deal with all these bunker boats

xD

[elder crane]

65/135/115 iirc on Georgia SHS

55/145/125 on her gun

[vague token]

[elder crane]

whyyyyyy is this not consistent

[vague token]

yostar is laffey

drink and sleep

xD

doesnt that mean massachusetts with the georgia gun is actually a nerf lol

[sharp wing]

But sleep then drink instead

[elder crane]

we now have 3 different BB SHS rounds

[vague token]

triggered

[sharp wing]

Wait, georgia skill actually changes ammo?

[elder crane]

Mass, Georgia skill, Georgia gun

no, on the shots in her barrage

[sharp wing]

I seen nothing in description

[vague token]

mass and georgia skill have the same ammo

you said 45/135/115 right?

[elder crane]

nope

mass is 60/135/115

[vague token]

oh ok

[elder crane]

Georgia skill is 65/135/115

[vague token]

i mean

close enough

[elder crane]

Georgia gun is 55/145/125

sigh

[vague token]

it's just 5 on light

xD

basically the same

lol

so clearly the solution

is georgia gun on everything

does it take more bps since it's a rainbow gun?

like 35 or something evil?

[elder crane]

50

[vague token]

holy

guess ill die then

at least mass can use like the triple 406 i guess

instead of the bad base damage on twin 380

seriously why do we not have a 406mm ap gun

[sharp wing]

Well, gold 406 is mass gun ye

[vague token]

there's 410 i guess

i guess triple 410 would be ok

it's comparable

xD

[elder crane]

Triple 410 is basically AP 406, yep

[vague token]

time to bring AP gun meta

im ready

no more fires

[elder crane]

just like how gold twin 406 is literally a better twin purple 410

[sharp wing]

well, triple 410 has bit longer reload, so for mass 406 better

And easier to get

[vague token]

i mean it's .12 seconds

that's w/e

[sharp wing]

well

[vague token]

but only mass can use the triple 406

[sharp wing]

I mean, i already have few of those stored

[vague token]

everyone else needs triple 410

[sharp wing]

idk when mass was released on CN

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

maybe pre PR

[vague token]

too bad big mamie only scales with eagle bbs/heavy cruisers

if it was just any bb/heavy cruiser

would be cool

[elder crane]

the 410 AP was my 2nd PR equip
after the 410 meme (which ofc I didn't make)

[vague token]

ah