pvp

[zenith tundra]

20k attacks?

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

im at 22k

so

[sharp wing]

so

[elder crane]

I'm at 38.8k or something I think

yeah, that

[zenith tundra]

im at 38.5k

[sharp wing]

I know a guy w/ 42k+ and 150+ oathed ships, so...

Talk about nolyfe

[vague token]

more like big wallet

[elder crane]

well the oath is just whale

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

i only started auto lane this year tho

[sharp wing]

Well, i mean, you gonna farm aff on all those ships

[vague token]

i mean i could oath a good number, sure not 150

[elder crane]

with 42k, trust me, you have 150 ships at 100 aff easily

[vague token]

but if i had 22k id probably have like 200+ oathable

errr 42k

[elder crane]

200+ is easy, yeah, if you want to go that way

[sharp wing]

lol

[elder crane]

I stopped bothering after a while

first focused on 200 affing my oaths, before doing that, but then XP bank released, and that's all I do now

[vague token]

i only have 200 aff on one rip

[sharp wing]

I'm on 0 xd

[elder crane]

I've somewhere near 20 I'm pretty sure

[vague token]

but to be fair i love minne

so

w/e

[sharp wing]

Minne is ...

[elder crane]

since I have like 2.5 PvP teams at 200, and some PvE ships too

[sharp wing]

flat you know

[vague token]

so?

xD

[sharp wing]

Not to my taste

[elder crane]

oh, actually 23 at 200 affection, I underestimated

[sharp wing]

But would be good candidate for 200 aff

Probably would be already, if i oathed her

[zenith tundra]

i have 4 ships not 200 of the oaths. enty lusty roon and kaga bb

[sharp wing]

Enty is very common 1st ring for ppl

Esp for old players

[zenith tundra]

belfast was my 1st

[elder crane]

I went with Bel first cause she hit 100 aff first, of the ships I wanted to eventually oath

I forget who I went with on CN for my limited ring set, since I was F2P there

I think I had 3 rings total? or was it 5

[zenith tundra]

aya was my 1st 200 because i loved playing her on manual

[elder crane]

I hit that with Hood first, cause, well, it's Hood
The clearly best flag main back then
At least, I think that was it

[vague token]

my first was prinz

boi did i get suckered

xD

[elder crane]

Boy has there been creep since then

[sharp wing]

xD

I mean Prinz totally deserver it xD

[elder crane]

Prinz retro at some point soon(tm), maybe/hopefully?

[vague token]

gonna go with x to doubt

[sharp wing]

We already have Prinz retro anyway

[elder crane]

Also, thoughts and ideas on a Prinz Retro
how would you make her unique, relative to other ships?

[zenith tundra]

akaga were 1st 2 rings i actually grinded to 200

[sharp wing]

Roon pretty much Prinz retro

[elder crane]

Roon is Prinz upgrading the DpS route

[vague token]

shields do damage on detonation based on max hp

and shields do collision damage

based on max hp

xD

[zenith tundra]

i love roon but still hate ca till 120

[vague token]

glowworm 2.0

[elder crane]

so I'm thinking a way to differentiate is to go not-full-DpS and add other stuff

the shields are an obvious choice to enhance ofc

[vague token]

we already have a shield in game that does damage

negligible damage

but it exists

[elder crane]

Yeah, Indy, right?

[vague token]

yeah xD

either that or she could have draw fire

but sodaks version

because draw fire on nachi/myoukou is 100% garbage

[zenith tundra]

is printx retro new meme after bismark?

[sharp wing]

lol, NamaHyuukai actually much harder for me, than namaryuu

Anyways, where is Leip retro for EN...

I'm getting nervous

[zenith tundra]

not gonna be tbh

[finite valve]

just accept that we ain't getting them lel

[sharp wing]

They give us that useless Koln, but not actual...

[zenith tundra]

how about we get sandy ws hiryuu etc that came bofore

[sharp wing]

Well, this is kinda "global event"

[finite valve]

meh just give me w12 and call it even

[sharp wing]

Or supposed to be

[elder crane]

we didn't get the bunny retros with the other global even, CE, though

[sharp wing]

Guess we fall short after 1st wave

[zenith tundra]

w12 was announced

[elder crane]

tbh thankfully

[finite valve]

no ETA

[elder crane]

they don't announce ships more than like 2 weeks away afaik

I'm thinking with the update at end of Bis

[sharp wing]

pretty sure

[finite valve]

yeh what i mean is just give w12 tomorrow or something

[elder crane]

inb4 surprise maint tomorrow

[sharp wing]

well, no

pushing content inside event

[zenith tundra]

well pr was a nice wait

[elder crane]

didn't they do that once, give zero hints about update until the day before it happened?

[sharp wing]

I actually didn't expect 120 till like end summer

[elder crane]

we got the other chapters midway through events too

[zenith tundra]

i was expecting it this month considering the time in between w10 and w11

[sharp wing]

110 patch was during big event?

I don't remember any such thing

[zenith tundra]

w10 was

[elder crane]

ch11 was iirc

or was it just 10

10 was right in middle of DC

[sharp wing]

was it w/ 110 patch?

[zenith tundra]

w11 was after wc

[elder crane]

10 was right in the middle of DC, with the danger level mechanic a week after ch10

[sharp wing]

Well, if they just give ch12 without 120 patch, i dun care now or later

[elder crane]

ah, right, XP banking was right in the middle of WC

then ch11 and 110 right after

[zenith tundra]

xp storage was before wc but they hid it for part of the event

[lime rivet]

Inb4 leip retro is giving her a floatplane slot

[zenith tundra]

[finite valve]

CLV?

[elder crane]

well, officially right after, it was stored since shortly after lecture hall release

[lime rivet]

Nope. Just standard floatplane gear. They gave Köln her helo after all.

[elder crane]

since it turned out the lecture hall couldn't be enabled easily without enabling XP banking

and so the devs just gave up on that

[sharp wing]

Just give her nice stat boost and some not trash skill

And that kawaii skin

[elder crane]

if she gets a portkai-level of stat buffs, that'd be great

screw getting a new skill even

[sharp wing]

Well, yeah, no.

[lime rivet]

I wouldn't have that high expectations, tbh

[sharp wing]

Not happening

[elder crane]

yeah, it's not happening for sure

[sharp wing]

Tbh port only got that, cause she didn't get skill

[elder crane]

she's prolly going to get stats from meh to slightly less meh

[sharp wing]

Well, after retro, she gonna eb pretty top on AA i guess

[elder crane]

hurray

[sharp wing]

from top 6 to to top 5 xD

But following other kms CLs retroes... Some Hp, torp and AA all she gonna get...

[elder crane]

So, we have:
Sandy, Jun, Atlanta, Sirius, Isuzu, and the repair ships above her

who else?

[sharp wing]

sheff too

[elder crane]

nah Sheff AA eff is low

110 not 130

[sharp wing]

I mean, only amongst CLs

[elder crane]

on AA stat you mean

ehhh

[sharp wing]

Well...

You forgot Lil Sandy too

[elder crane]

true

[sharp wing]

She actually has same AA, as Yat Sen

But yat has AA +1

and well, she isn't solo ship

even tho Yats eff is poo

[elder crane]

Curacoa and Curlew do too, but the low eff and low AA kills them

iirc some IJN CL also has +1 AA gun?

[sharp wing]

Isuzu

She gets to use DD guns and AA+1

at lb2

She;s pretty much IJn Sandy

[finite valve]

is was nice knowing you

[sharp wing]

lol

[finite valve]

you won't will be miss

[elder crane]

Ah, the best-potential ship on AA iirc, isuzu
with Sandykai and the repair ships

[sharp wing]

yeah...

isuzu is that niche...

Also every1 forgot about her at ch12 planning...

Onis are best anyway

[elder crane]

well the best strat is to actually kill everything rather than bothering to minmax AA, sooo

[sharp wing]

Well, ye

Tho i like twin 127 CLs

[elder crane]

having some AA to mitigate is nice but not worth overly gimping your team for

[sharp wing]

But her gun damage is just poo

At least curacoa/cerlew get MG+1 and DD guns

Tho their AA sucks

But i like em xD

[elder crane]

their two AA guns combined are worse than Isuzu's one
pretty sure they're worse than just a USN CL too

[sharp wing]

Well, ye

[elder crane]

at least Mgm+1 on DD guns with CL FP though

[sharp wing]

Yeah, that's what i like

pew-pew botes

Tho their fp is not high too

Gun oriented DDs could overdo them, but no MG+1 for DDs

So idk

[elder crane]

Well there are the zukis but their FP sucks

[sharp wing]

well

[elder crane]

and mediocre gun efficiencies on them

[sharp wing]

I mean, z23 prolly will give them a run for their money

[elder crane]

Niizuki, Yoizuki, Harutsuki

Not even that, she does clearly better iirc

at the whole gunboating thing

[vague token]

i mean the zuki's are like dd sandy

[sharp wing]

oh

[vague token]

which makes them worse in every way xD

[sharp wing]

wwait, they actually get mg+1

[elder crane]

175 vs 100 eff, with lots more FP

yeah, that's what I was saying

[sharp wing]

Well, zukis fp and eff sucks

pfff

[elder crane]

but Z does more than twice as much damage per shot

so....

[sharp wing]

yeah

and curacoa curlew too

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

Heck pretty sure Laffey outguns them

[sharp wing]

Well, laffo can outgun most

ridiculous pew-pew amount

[elder crane]

yeah but she's still not fully gunfocused
but the zukis pretty much are

wait they get preloaded torps?

nvm them

[sharp wing]

well, laffo retro gun is pretty formidable

Yeah, zukies get both

[elder crane]

okay, maybe they're actually semi-decent as hybrids then

[sharp wing]

MG+1 instead of +1 max rtorp

[elder crane]

since their torps look decent

[sharp wing]

Like Mogami

retro

[elder crane]

actually still mediocre on torps, but at least upgrades from trash gunboat to mediocre hybrid

[sharp wing]

kinda

Nii can give diabetes too

And i remember i hunted for haru like 60 cubes...

I actually dun have Nii or Nicho yet

[vague token]

o.O

[sharp wing]

All the time i've been spamming 6, 8, 9, 10 SOS i got 0 ships

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i was so sad i got poi from a 6-5

[sharp wing]

SAD, wtf

[vague token]

i had mlb poi from like way back before aya kai

made me sad

what a waste of an ssr drop

[sharp wing]

I still, need 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 -4 and 9-3 boss ships

[finite valve]

keep her for poi kai in the future

unless you are tight on slot

[vague token]

i upgraded to 300 dock space

xD

[sharp wing]

Nicho only non x-4 boss drop ship too

[vague token]

with bag

[sharp wing]

I'm at 400, and it getting pretty cramped

And i lack some drop ships, as i mentioned

Having 50 purins/bulins not helping too

[finite valve]

each or total?

[vague token]

also tiny update what

[sharp wing]

total both

[finite valve]

i got around 45 of each

[sharp wing]

20 or 21 purins atm

[finite valve]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

I stoped buying from merit for few seasons now

But they still pop up on exchange

I even scraped sandy dupes i saved for retro

Cause i see, purins not going anywhere, lol

Oh, i actually have less, bulins, than purins, lol

Those get eaten fast

[zenith tundra]

bullins are only 3k merit so its essy to get them

[sharp wing]

yeah and exchange

If you in dire need

[zenith tundra]

i stopped lb ships because of gold

only do the few i use or need

[sharp wing]

I still need to LB last event ships and 30k gold for monarch... and Research projects...

And retroes got stalled...

And enhancing new PR gear

[zenith tundra]

i stopped research money for border and monarch

mostly focused on equip research instead

[hot creek]

ugh. I dont really want to 120 hiryuu.

[ionic magnet]

why not

[zenith tundra]

i don't think anyone is looking up to farm 2.3m xp

on any ship

[vague token]

i dont mind the number but rip oil xD

[hot creek]

dont really like Hiryuu and 120'ing a girl you dont plan on oathing is kind of dumb.

maybe ill just quit pvp and wait for WS kai so i can go back to using her + whatever I want

[zenith tundra]

are u gonna 120 only ships u oath?

[hot creek]

well pve ships can carry themselves to 120 automatically

gotta go out of my way for Hiryuu

[zenith tundra]

what about juneau?

[hot creek]

juneau is too broken to ignore

shes like T0+

[zenith tundra]

u say that but hiryuu kai is t0 with ws kai in jp

[hot creek]

sure but i can use whatever else with WS kai and get similar win rates lol

i really hate juneau

fucking opressive dumb ass heal

pvp would be so much better off without that.

[vague token]

flat heal scaling when

remove % heals!

xD

[zenith tundra]

i feel the same about ws kai i wish she wouldn't exist but

[ionic magnet]

its a waifu game in the end

[lime rivet]

Leip and Z1 datamines out

[ionic magnet]

i wish nagato dont exist but

wot

post here please

[hot creek]

nothing gonna save KMS at this point

[coral wren]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C9KJmAdS2tTMy9xqxXvw7p4mmEjEC-64GnzVGMReeQ4/edit#gid=0

[hot creek]

Not even FDG

[coral wren]

by dimbreath

[ionic magnet]

lf translation

[coral wren]

translations : leipzig +3 vanguard speed when alive, -25% damage while colliding with enemies; when HP below 30%, evade all attacks for 5 sec, +15% damage self until the end of the fight, once per fight.

[ionic magnet]

what are these meme skills

[zenith tundra]

glowworm 2

[coral wren]

z1 :Every 20 seconds, there is a 50.0% (80.0%) probability to activate Destruction Mode Prototype and fire a special barrage. Increases critcal damage by 30.0% (50.0%) and the reduces aviation damage the Vanguard receives by 10.0% (30.0%) for 10 seconds.

[ionic magnet]

wtf my kms dreams

[lime rivet]

Kms pve dreams live

Pvp btfo

[ionic magnet]

every 20s

[zenith tundra]

idk why would anyone hope that z1 would even be remotely close to a pvp ship even with retro

[vague token]

a GUN destroyer

xD

[zenith tundra]

and leip wouldn't really fit pvp teams anyway

[vague token]

leip at least helps deal with roon low speed

[zenith tundra]

not with roon and printz there

[coral wren]

kms pvp

[ionic magnet]

z23 100% crit rate with that crit dmg buff

[vague token]

cool i can crit on my 100mm guns

[zenith tundra]

i really wouldn't laugh till u see maxed fdg with bismark and graf

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

lol

[hot creek]

how about Tirp with a sunken Bisko

[zenith tundra]

i find tirp to matter 0 as a shelling only boat

doesn't matter the 40% dmg

and graf can't even slow because no torpedo bombers to try an 818 combo

[vague token]

AP prioritizes main fleet on first shot when

[zenith tundra]

that would be interesting

amagi ap then

[hot creek]

#MakeBBsNotShit

oh well. at least its historically accurate

[zenith tundra]

the problem is cv tend to suck even more

[vague token]

and dont get as much hp xD

[hot creek]

at least CV can hit things

[zenith tundra]

interesting u say that in an era where more then 1 cv is suicidal

[vague token]

dive bombers should prioritize main fleet!

xD

reduce aoe

so no splashing

normalize bomb damage

so heccdiver isnt bis

then make it so fighters prevent main fleet rushing

[zenith tundra]

i don't really get the whole thing about "let's hate bis stuff because we need to something different". if u want to use something else use something else no one forces ur client to equip helldivers on all cv

[hot creek]

take Amagi out of the equation and suddenly a shit ton of other things become viable again whaddya kno

[vague token]

the problem with bis is that it's universal, there is barely even niche options because most carriers dont even benefit from the comet vs heccdiver

[zenith tundra]

and the savior is ws kai that makes everything a joke

so much better

[hot creek]

add yukikaze to the list

well at least WS kai spices things up by virtue of not being IJN bias

but yes, you can add WS k to the list too

[zenith tundra]

so ijn bias is bad and everything else even if a joke is better

[midnight heron]

question regarding wskai

since da new red skill replaces marksman

do u hav to re lvl to lvl 10

[ionic magnet]

ws kai is like half a year after w12 in jp yea?

[midnight heron]

k cuz i was worried u hav to re lvl it lmao

fking waste of red books

[zenith tundra]

old skill level remains

it just enhances it

[ionic magnet]

top10 with 5 charges left

feelsgood not missing a charge kek

[zenith tundra]

@ionic magnet w12 was around may for jp and ws kai was in jenuary/february 1 year later

[ionic magnet]

i see

[zenith tundra]

definitely not half year

[ionic magnet]

hopefully they speed things up in EN as usual

[midnight heron]

yes spd up sandy kai pls

my 3 sandy dupes r waiting

[hot creek]

hopefully once Enty kai becomes a thing we will have a decent selection of OP ships to choose from and come full circle again

[vague token]

oh god

[stark raft]

Amagi Kai

[vague token]

with the current rate of skill power creep i dont even want to think about enty kai

[zenith tundra]

there sould be plenty of other sr that are trashier then enty

[ionic magnet]

90% owarida with 3x dmg instead

[hot creek]

tfw all the trash SSR are all HMS

[midnight heron]

[zenith tundra]

printz isn't

[hot creek]

imagine they made Enty into faction buffer

[vague token]

but that's theoretical iowa's job =(

[stark raft]

belfast kai into CA and make her flat

[zenith tundra]

i don;t think that will happen

enty is not a faction leader by design

no reason to change that

[vague token]

enty should always be the solo ship

that's her thing

[zenith tundra]

she'll buff sandy

[hot creek]

thats fine then, make her into a mass debuffer like Amagi then

[zenith tundra]

then we can have more ships to complain about

[hot creek]

yes, thats how balance works

need more access to slow to make BBs not shit

[zenith tundra]

idk how people still complain about amagi when in jp she doesn't really matter anymore but

just let ws kai one shoot her and gg

[lament lichen]

nerf hiryuu

[hot creek]

cause WS k is the new bullshit

they should have made her skill tied to having a certain amount of HMS ships on your team to work

[vague token]

the targeting part should have been qe retro

_>

you know, the leaaader

[zenith tundra]

ws kai in the leader now

[ionic magnet]

our devs enjoy their ijns too much to worry about some hms

[zenith tundra]

it's weird because they are chinese

[hot creek]

I should just go back to playing KC for best IJN bias™

Also KC Warspite is thicc

I love both Warspites though.

only ship who I have oathed in both games

[zenith tundra]

1 month in and 223 roon bps with 70+ from events... not a good rate

[trim horizon]

Enty kai disable all invulnerability and eva skills whenever she owari da

[hot creek]

yeah that sounds p good to me

[zenith tundra]

i got 150 in 1 month which is 5 x day

idk i feel like without cubes and a lot of gold it takes eternity

[hot creek]

if i used all my general BP on one ship my highest would only be 216

[zenith tundra]

next event when... need more free bps

[hot creek]

hopefully french

[zenith tundra]

that's the only event i don't want... need a break after pr grind

but they already give us 120 so rip

[ionic magnet]

just give me my mikasa

shes long overdue

[vague token]

we need more side buffers instead of all these flags

because there's too many center barrages

why not get a diagonal barrage or something

=/

[hot creek]

i think i might start grinding out my cranes. I actually like those two enough to oath them and they seem viable against namaryuu

[stark raft]

abercrombie has a fucked barrage

[hot creek]

thats what happens when your gun is placed on top of your head.

[vague token]

xD

but yeah diagonal barrages

would be nice

planes that are dps instead of 24 second burst

also would be neat

for skill procs and stuff

[hot creek]

soooo, its about that time where a max skilled Bisko is possible innit.

did anyone here actually bother to max her and a KMS comp out lol?

[vague token]

she's at 104, only 1 skill left

graf has all skills but level 90 xD

so rip

i didnt go roon 2nd also rip

xD

[zenith tundra]

7-8-10 my sl on bismark and lvl 105. my problem is graf

i'll try before 120 even if under leveled

because 120 on graf sounds like cancer

[hot creek]

I guess I could activate neet mode and level up my graf/bisko. (someone pls sponsor rings for me, kappa)

[zenith tundra]

4 days and 14hr left for last pr then i can focus on leveling up other stuff like graf roon and my pvp vg

[hot creek]

bisko is 6-10-10 and ive maxed graf's yellow skill

havent bothered with her red

maybe someday when they release gold junkers idk

[zenith tundra]

2hrs till max skills graf here

[modern tree]

Hey phoenix, do you think there's anyone on Sandy atm that is even close to my score? I am ahead of cintiq by 7 points and I can't tell if anyone else is even competing

Weird season

[hot creek]

Furashu

im sure there are others who have similar score but they stop bothering after gensui rush.

ill be rooting for both of you

[modern tree]

Never understood quitting post gensui. If you worked hard enough to get it with like one 9, why stop there

It's like 2 more days to end season

[hot creek]

ikr. Server named after the NumbahWan meme girl and barely anybody wants to be #1. Well, I guess most people are fine being numbah wan for a couple of minutes everytime they rush.

[vagrant veldt]

not everyone is interested in the rankings. a lot of players quit pvp after realising how low the gains are or if they have accumulated enough merits till servers shutdown

[modern tree]

It's about players who sandbag for gensui, which is exactly merits and nothing else

[ionic magnet]

theres no real reward for end season top rankers so some people just prefers to flex to casuals that dont even know how rankings work

[vagrant veldt]

they just get the merits and are done

[lament lichen]

weird flex but ok

[zenith tundra]

more like there are almost no rewards for playing pvp past a certain point

[stark raft]

Need something enticing in the merit shop like PR equip bps

[lament lichen]

its just merit farm hoping they put something in there

[odd schooner]

Pvp giving me a reason to wake up early

That's probably it

[zenith tundra]

i would consider even food in merit shop is an improvement

[modern tree]

I must be a unicorn then, caring only about the competition

[zenith tundra]

competition of who sleeps less?

[hot creek]

there are some players on Sandy who are capable of sandbagging as much as I do but they just stop after rush so theres like no competition for being true r1 so its kind of boring.

if rankings actually mattered, pvp would be hell though

PR BPs in merit shop would be fucking dope, but that would make too much sense

[modern tree]

Dunno about you but despite having a full time job and losing no sleep over pvp, I am well on course to be nr1 since phoenix dropped out and I can't see anyone else on the leaderboard that could be behind me

Sure being a neet helps but have you tried being good?

[zenith tundra]

i missed attempts on 2 consecutive resets because i was playing something else and just forget about pvp since it's pointless

[odd schooner]

2nd reset always at 3am here

Actually dst pushes it to 4

[modern tree]

3 am resets yep

You don't really farm 3 am reset by being awake on 4am tho

[odd schooner]

Somehow i change my sleeping from 1am to 9pm now so i could wake up as early as 3

[modern tree]

I consistently get +2 out of it with normal person sleeping habits

[odd schooner]

Longest waiting time is when i get queued with US

[hot creek]

if I was in that timezone i'd just do my pvps at around midnight assuming I had a relatively normal sleep schedule (which i sadly don't)

[odd schooner]

Shikikan matching is weird sometimes

You get matched up with people at sleep more than people that are awake

[hot creek]

sometimes you get lucky with opponents and sometimes you don't but it always evens out from my experience.

[modern tree]

I just burn to 5 at midnight, reroll into rushers I know if I didn't hit any, sleep, wake up at 7, take ny 11, probably hit people that burn from high charges to 0 before long reset, grab another 11 at half till 9

Congratulations, you play the game

The only thing it hurts is farming 9 pm reset if you get unlucky, but one 11 is still fine

[odd schooner]

Has anyone asked Famine how he does it lmao

[modern tree]

Sandbagging does not require you to frantically reset your game every half an hour. Doing that burns you out real fast for no gain

It only really works at the start of season

On like first day, when your opponents are genuinely random

[hot creek]

I imagine the only way to really get ahead is to take names down and really nail their schedules to have an idea of when certain opponents do their pvps

and be a god with opponent refresh button

[vague token]

i was thinking that it'd be neat to add people to a list on the tier list

xD

you just put down when you think they pushed

like how many hours after reset

and then you'd eventually get enough data points to know all the people

and the general trends

xD

[vagrant veldt]

sniping
check their profile to see their attacks
or just directly messaging for their points

[modern tree]

Remembering who hits top 50 every reset is not that hard for me

[vague token]

not that, it would have like push times

so you could submit like

x pushes after reset Y about Z minutes

into the reset

full spy mode

[modern tree]

That would require a lot of input to have any statistical significance

[vague token]

well yeah

but we're pvpers

xD

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't remember a person in pvp unless they have a nice team i test against

[vague token]

do it over the course of a year

should be good data

;)

is joke though lets not do that xD

[modern tree]

I mean, I remember who donates me points, they get a mental pat on the back from me

[vague token]

already collusion enough here

[elder crane]

Ah heck I fell asleep

That's more missed matches....

[hot creek]

it doesnt take too long to get familiar with the top names on Sandy since there just aren't that many ppl tbh.

but yeah i've always wanted to have some kind of automated leaderboard tracker. would actually help with insight mid-late season.

[modern tree]

You can also usually tell people are casuals because they have terrible taste for their secretary

[vague token]

oh snap

daxam throwing down the fighting words

/i dunno what sandy is like

[lament lichen]

i will always remembder that one guy who puts nagato at top

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/DiYuY/19327451dd.png nagato you say?

[vague token]

oh god

[stark raft]

sandy is coarse and rough and sandbaggers everywhere

[hot creek]

old UI so much nicer

I miss not having to fucking squint just to read how much XP my ship has.

[vague token]

what is this? a ui for ants?

xD

im sure they have that in there already

just got back above 10k

need some bowser communism xD

4 bps to dev 25 saint louis =D

coming for that 690 hp, 34 aa, 10 evade

and special touch

i dont remember but imma guess at least 15 (150 total points)

because 21-24 are 150 points per level

[zenith tundra]

it's the points divided by 10

[vague token]

i think

[zenith tundra]

200->20 bps

[vague token]

oh it goes back down in cost

that's nice

i guess it's 400 for 29->30

?

[zenith tundra]

all i know is that 120 left

idk about a chart for it.

the wiki one has every 5 levels

[vague token]

xD

just level her up!

;)

[zenith tundra]

@balmy torrent cn wiki is good
http://wiki.joyme.com/blhx/科研系统

scroll down and u get all the bps u need

[vague token]

[hot creek]

this is why I leave my dev levels at even numbers before using BP

congrats on dev 25 though

[zenith tundra]

i feel like counting bps is as pointless as it gets. only maxed really matter and that takes forever

[vague token]

well 25 is fine for saint louis

i get full tank stats

30 is just a bit of fp and 15% efficiency

which is useful but i mean she's already gonna hit harder than most CAs and outtank them xD

35% he damage is one hell of a drug

[hot creek]

I just like to keep track of how many BP im getting a day and not using BPs immediately just makes it easier thats all. My Nep and Monarch are aleady lvl 110 and its not like the extra stats inbetween dev 20-25 would help them score MVPs much more anyways.

[vague token]

what does nep even get at 25

hp?

[coral wren]

Fuck man, didn't hear my alarm clock and i got ez -4

Dude..

[vague token]

this is why i dont use alarms

too stressful

[coral wren]

Yeah, actually, fuck them.

[hot creek]

my daily recurring alarms have not failed me ever....except once the other day where I tried to take a "nap" after being up for 24 hours two hours before reset and consequently slept through alarm

[vague token]

ooooof

[hot creek]

I was actually kind of shocked when I woke up

like damn, i never sleep thru my alarms

but pulling that kind of stunt really pushed it i guess

should have just done my pvps lul

[ionic magnet]

you're up for 24 hrs and then you expect to wake up in 2 hrs eh

that's very optimistic of you

atleast that wont work on me even if i asked someone to wake me up

[silver root]

Leipzig and Z1 retros are out on chinese wiki

[raw osprey]

🚮

[coral wren]

So we aren't getting them?

[sharp wing]

[lean phoenix]

I lost to oathed foxes with my non oathed foxes

[sharp wing]

Punish yr foxes

[wicked rivet]

thats how stats work

@coral wren if they post the retros on EN twitter, we get them. if not, we dont

thats how it goes

[lean phoenix]

That 2-ring deal is getting more and more tempting just for this

[wicked rivet]

boi

why havent you bought the pack?

[lean phoenix]

Cause been spending on other non al things

[wicked rivet]

there are literally zero reasons to pass it up

except being out of gems

dewit

[coral wren]

Well, you might want to save some for the future skins

[coral wren]

i see you

[coral wren]

can enterprise work in a ijn fleet?

[elder crane]

She's servicable as a Hiryuu alternative

not great, but servicable

[coral wren]

tbh i don't like hiryuu

[elder crane]

well, she's in the best team for the forseeable future on PvP meta, so....

all the way until we get PR2 and dev30 FdG, is the forseeable future

[coral wren]

well, i'd try using something else so can it work with the standard setup and an offensive lineup?

well, don't they have relatively close reload times?

[elder crane]

enty takes nothing from Hiryuu normal strikes though

[coral wren]

i mean, if the proc goes right when lucky E is up

[elder crane]

just the counterstrike fron Hiryuu comes in without lucky E

[coral wren]

then the airstrike is nullified

i mean, it's not more catastrophic than 2 airstrikes from akaga, right?

[elder crane]

lucky E doesn't last long enough to defeat the counterstrike too

also isn't right timing to tank most Nagato and Amagi shots

[coral wren]

isn't barracuda better on hiryuu?

[elder crane]

Well, hiryuu procs return strike before lucky E ends, but travel time means it passes
basically delay from E procing Hiryuu to the return strike is 2 travel times, which is longer than 8 s

nah, ryuusei by a good deal better

her damage is limited, so it's better to focus it in

[coral wren]

using ryuusei on kaga atm, so, should i convert

my hiryuu is only 107

what lineup would you run on offense with hiryuu?

[elder crane]

For now, stall-VG is best, Sheff/Bel+Jun+ykkz, with Namagi

with 120 (arguably already) Aurora instead, with Jun and ykkz again

but the apex afaik is Louis+Jun+Ykkz
with Nep+Jun+Ykkz also good, depends what you see

[coral wren]

and which is the main tank? belfast or nanoda?

and juneau mid?

[elder crane]

Ykkz is much worse at tanking torps
You want her lasting long enough to proc her heal too

and she's the best solo-vg for stalling

Both Bel and Sheff are disposable and decently tanky

so they go in first

With aurora it's Jun/Aurora/Ykkz instead

but that setup imo is still too squishy at 110, and even at 120, CN opinion is that it's too squishy for defense

120 gives a higher PvP HP multiplier than 110, btw, for why there's a tankiness difference

Aurora gets kinda shut down by Louis though

the other option with Aurora is to run more torps instead, usually Jint/Aurora/Ykkz

But torps are notoriously unreliable, and in general aren't as good on offense where they have a harder time hitting main fleet with the stray torps

[coral wren]

is it worth to use badge on amagi?

[elder crane]

If you run Nep or Louis with Jun and ykkz, either the PR or Jun leading are both viable

No, amagi usually doesn' take enough damage and she's one of the major damage dealers

you want at least SG/SG, I prefer HFCR/SG

[coral wren]

does nagato's buff go off when she dies?

[elder crane]

Nope

but it's one less ship, and Nagato still hits hard herself

[coral wren]

so badge on her?

[elder crane]

I prefer badge on Hiryuu for now

but with rudders the setups change

[coral wren]

instead of what, gold SG or HSFCR, the badge

[elder crane]

yes, but the mirrors are the only challenging teams to face

anything not a mirror-type fleet, namayuu/stall just steamrolls on offense

I think I've only had to reset once vs non-mirror, and that time was from the most ungodly ykkz RNG I've ever seen

she won solo vs my 3 main fleet and ykkz, somehow

literally could not hit her at all

[coral wren]

a bulin, a purin, oil and bb bps

i need the purin, so i'll go 'til b2

idc of the gold BP

so, gold essugee or badge on nagato?

no HSFCR?

then what do i use on amagi

gold essugee + HSFCR?

atm i use gold essugee and normal FCR

how many points would a backline have in average?

a nagato amagi hiryuu one

i guess around 12.8k?

mine's at 12.6k, and front at like 13k

oh, so my frontline's somewhere around the point

a bit happier now

[odd schooner]

You could cheat power if you use kizuna aux

[wicked rivet]

twin 127 and belgun give the exact same power

[coral wren]

Due to aa i think 127 is superior

[elder crane]

did they fix the bug where the Fleet tech Buffs still affect the PvP power (but don't affect gameplay)?

[modern tree]

It will probably never change

We are stuck with it now. They should fix your fleet tech applying to opponents fleet that they had on release

[steep fog]

im running nep gun

[elder crane]

That fleet tech thing was instapatched on CN, after a couple of days, hopefully that means it's patched for us too

[coral wren]

tfw still no yepgun, at 23/25

[elder crane]

I got my first louisgun at least, which is surprising cause it's my 4th PR equip and as of half a week ago it was like 7th on my list of PR equips by bp count at somewhere around 15/25

[sharp wing]

You already got 4 pr equips built?

[steep fog]

I got 4 too

rudder nep gun louis gun 410 triple 381 triple

oh its 5

[trim horizon]

finally some movement in my list

[shell heron]

I only finished the MLE and nepgun. I don't count the confetti cannon which I can make right now.

[lament lichen]

i only have the roon gun

[shell heron]

I am close to the roon gun 22/25, but I really want to finish off my staag and rudder more

[wicked rivet]

i need a staag

[shell heron]

it's that last bp that hurts the most to get

[sharp wing]

I only did 1 Mle

[trim horizon]

http://prntscr.com/nyjb71

[sharp wing]

[modern tree]

cute tiny scores

[trim horizon]

[modern tree]

I'm only 3 ahead of furashu, I wonder if I can keep up

[trim horizon]

[modern tree]

man, I am speechless, this is cool

[coral wren]

wow you managed to extract it

[modern tree]

z1 will never make it to pvp because you can't play KMS without Juneau

and Juneau +2 DDs is weird

[sharp wing]

Leipzig retro skill is fun

[vague token]

juneau + 2 dds sounds like i just toss aurora in and rip vanguard

[sharp wing]

You won't even need aurora for that

Cause 1 of em won't be NANODA_SAMA

[vague token]

i know but to like, be extra evil xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

if juneau was flat hp heal she'd be good for destroyers

[sharp wing]

Also, getting 1k dorm coins in 10 days is possible?

I'm just sitting at 1.2k and need 1k more to buy out event dorm

[modern tree]

100 per day from comms that give 0-7 sounds pretty easy tbh

[sharp wing]

Oh, well. you reassured me

[modern tree]

just make the day last 40 hours

or something

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

lol

wait, it's 6 days not 10

[modern tree]

just dump 1k gems to get them

ez

[sharp wing]

[modern tree]

6 full courses, bruh

[sharp wing]

bruh, ring pack

[modern tree]

if you want actual math then I have earned roughly 1822 since the event started

I dont know how many days have passed, but if you have 6 left, it's probably closer than you think, but also not enough

[sharp wing]

Well, i only bought there 2 items that gave me +1 and few things i liked. Might jsut skip the rest. Not like that reward item give some +1 i won't be able to get elsewhere

If at all

Lol, farming for Monarch on D3 w/ Hood, Warspite, Dork and Minne still manage to steal mvp half the time

[vague token]

i mean minne is a clearing snowballer

[sharp wing]

Gotta downgrade her gun

Or swap to second slot on D3 w/ hood +war and Phoe

[vague token]

id use her in pvp if she wasnt made of paper

xD

because she is my favorite choco

[sharp wing]

Sodako is my Choco

[vague token]

sodak is second but that's because missing party skin

her default design is just ok

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Dat blush

[vague token]

xD

[red nexus]

I need a WA to my SD

[vague token]

i kinda thought about using her with amagi and sara so she could guard them but alas the struggle of main gunning

=(

[sharp wing]

Well

[red nexus]

Amagi WA SD is valid

[sharp wing]

She was pretty good in1 st half year

I used wasd atm

[vague token]

well i dont really like wash that much xD

like she's cool

but she doesnt have a cool skill really

[red nexus]

WA is a pretty nice bote, design wise

[vague token]

but there's also a lot of cool boats

xD

[sharp wing]

lol

[red nexus]

I'd but her at an A tier in the waifu list

Probably

[sharp wing]

In tsun list

She can be a bit sadistic too...

[red nexus]

I don't know her lines

[sharp wing]

Well, i have her oathed too w/ Sodako

[red nexus]

I only know her skill and what she looks like

[sharp wing]

My WasdA actually was over 14k power

comapred to ijn comps

at bit over 13k

[vague token]

i mean they have a lot of base stats

xD

[sharp wing]

Dat AA

xd

[modern tree]

whats fleet power

[vague token]

that thing you whale for right?

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

but yeah maybe ill swap sodak in at 120 if we get her party skin

at least her shield still works without wash

[sharp wing]

Wash only gives her invulnerability

[red nexus]

I wish SD was usable without WA

Seems like a great defence bote

[sharp wing]

I used her alone before wash all the time

[vague token]

before wash we only had hood/foxes and stuff

to be fair

[red nexus]

Would probably actually be rlly good if she was kms XD

[sharp wing]

When she procs double damage

[red nexus]

Because of synergies

[vague token]

alternatively id use hiei because wow but she doesnt have the 50% heal back

which means she is waaay worse at tanking

and less hp

and less aa

xD

[sharp wing]

Also, like. She eats final damage, goes into invulnerability from Wash, then restores 1.7k hp from her skill

[red nexus]

Butvi'm just spittballing here, so it couöd also just be total garbage

[sharp wing]

comeback is real

[red nexus]

So yeah good night, lads

[vague token]

night o/

[midnight heron]

halp

[sharp wing]

well

I actually got 5 of those from core shop anyway

[vague token]

24/25 mle help

i did a 12 hour over night didnt get one

xD

[sharp wing]

Mle is msot common bp to me, lol

I built 1 2 days ago and already up to...

oh only 2 bps

[modern tree]

try this instead of a gun that you can just buy

[midnight heron]

its rng tho cant choose

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

oof

[modern tree]

I need it so bad for Monarch too

[vague token]

yeah xD

[sharp wing]

Try this

i so hoped Bisquirt event to have this

[vague token]

na we just got bofors from d3

which is ok

[midnight heron]

droprates seem to be trash for me regardless

[modern tree]

you can farm cudas

you actually can't get them other way because it takes about 250 royal boxes to roll one

[vague token]

o.O

[midnight heron]

if only theres gear wishing well event

[sharp wing]

Well, i actually got a lot of cudas from boxes

Not a single homing torp tho

after event ended

well, t3 one

[coral wren]

yeah, hms needs stag so bad

I missed 4 fights today fml

i feel you

I had 9 runs and only 60 points behind rank 1

Now I don't know if I can make top 10 even

[sharp wing]

Depends on yr server

[coral wren]

Washington

[sharp wing]

Probably you can, don't think, it's more competitive, than Sandy

Unless you mean end season score

[coral wren]

I don't think I can sandbag this hard again

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

still doable, you just need to rush faster than everyone else

[sharp wing]

Summer just started, so

[coral wren]

I am never gonna sandbag this hard again

So much effort

[sharp wing]

Well, if we just talking about getting aotn, then even losing 10 fights is fine for non Aurora or lexi servers

But end season idk

[coral wren]

Idk about losing 10 fights

[vague token]

aurora server

[coral wren]

That means you're gonna have to sandbag every fight

[sharp wing]

Not really

Just push somewhere on Saturday 1st reset, and you easily get aotn

I once got it w/ over 15 tickets lost

[coral wren]

I couldn't do it with 4 lost

[sharp wing]

well, if you push on Friday probably not

Also maybe Washi actually more competitive, than Sandy, lol

[coral wren]

Well I don't know

[sharp wing]

Are here actually any other Washi ppl?

[coral wren]

Is losing the same thing as missing a run?

[sharp wing]

yeah

you still get merits and exp tho

[coral wren]

It always feel like I lose points

[sharp wing]

Reroll not to lose

[coral wren]

I didn't pay attention

[sharp wing]

Well, happens

[coral wren]

I am still not paying full attention

Sometimes it came close

[sharp wing]

I mean, nagato vs nagato 0:3 happens so ye

[sharp wing]

I actually didn't expect it had sequential fire pattern, lol

[vague token]

gib

24/25 forever

ree

[sharp wing]

lmao, Minne got mvp even w/ +6 Mle

[vague token]

you know it has a secret 1.3 coefficient right

big deeps

xD

[sharp wing]

Well, this thing has hidden 130% coefficient

yeah, it melts all light armor

[vague token]

1.3 * 1.35 saint louis

NOW THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE

[sharp wing]

Nw, this is what i call meme fleet

meme power over 100500

[vague token]

wait... level 1

must be extras? xD

[sharp wing]

extra thicc

[vague token]

i should put team debuff on but they arent 110

=/

gotta get tennessee and kizuna dd to 110 xD

[sharp wing]

Tryhard much

[cerulean estuary]

is this the monarch gun? and is this good also for bismarck?

[stone grove]

That's the Izumo gun I believe
Also, Bismarck wants 406mk6
Her barrage is shit, she wants to focus on shelling

[sharp wing]

Just... AP

[vague token]

dear god the last bp for mle is the trolliest one xD

ive been getting roon gun bps instead

[shy hazel]

jp

announced

that there is

a bug

in bisko skill

lets see how they fix it

[trim horizon]

[lament lichen]

bug in bisko

impossiblerr

[cerulean estuary]

yeah "bug" they forgot to add the +1 additonal damage

[vague token]

xD

[cerulean estuary]

pvp points too low demn , ive been eating +9 points grrrrrr

[sharp wing]

Ohboi Ohboi Bisco OP incomin'

[shy hazel]

but well

[trim horizon]

next patch removed Bismarck

[shy hazel]

i think its a jp only bug

your game will hang everytime bisko skill procs

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

jebaited

https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1136574318307975170?s=19

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[vague token]

"later"

xD

[shy hazel]

jp,has own devs

so cn holiday wont stop them

[vague token]

ah

[shy hazel]

unlike en

[sharp wing]

nothing related to barrage fix

tho

[shy hazel]

yea

just told u got jebaited

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

F

[stone grove]

JP said that the bug was with strengthening the skill if Google Translate was indication

[sharp wing]

Yeah, i just posted translation of that post

[stone grove]

Ah yeah I translated the post when I first saw it last night but I had to check again

Btw the JP Twitter has since said it's fixed

[sharp wing]

Well, doesn't affect us in any way

[shy hazel]

hoped to see them make the skill stronger instead

still crap

[stone grove]

Her barrage has no reach

[sharp wing]

Her barrage has no barrage

[shy hazel]

avrora pvp is dead again

ima laugh if i get in top 10

cos i missed couple of resets

[stone grove]

[shy hazel]

top 10 end season

👀

[sharp wing]

[stone grove]

I'm on Washington so even being late means ur never hitting top 1000

[sharp wing]

Eh

[stone grove]

Late as in late w/ first 5 before u get the 12:00 ones

[shy hazel]

global has way less servers and players

👀

guess global weebs arr still fewer than japs

[sharp wing]

eh

i mean, En weebs play on jp/cn

Hell, i play things, like PSO2

[shy hazel]

pso2 has no global

so its acceptable

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

it has en patch too

👀

[sharp wing]

yeah

other games have En patchers too

remember playing jp closers too

[shy hazel]

i dont get how ppl enjoy playing games they dint understand

[sharp wing]

Well, you get important things translated

Or just use guides

But story, well

Who cares anyway

Go on youtube and watch w/ subs

[shy hazel]

i still find it ironic

when ppl complain in en translation in this game

why we didnt follow jp original line

[sharp wing]

i mean, many such mmos w/ EN releases, still often have even bigger playerbase in cn/jp/kr

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

same w/ mobile

Some ppl go play original after trying out EN too

[shy hazel]

then now zack is getting cucked to jp

👀

[vague token]

kek

[sharp wing]

after they get to know, how things work

and want more content

[shy hazel]

kiro make en gr8 again

MEGA

[sharp wing]

[cerulean estuary]

azur lane guild wars when?

axis vs allied

[shy hazel]

o

[sharp wing]

pls no

[shy hazel]

the stupid guild faction which made 0 sense

👀