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zenith tundra
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fuck that shit then

elder crane
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no subs no monty/denver no sussex/aber

zenith tundra
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๐Ÿšฎ

elder crane
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so if I pick Sandy, can I nerf her rate down to 2%?

empty sinew
elder crane
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Then if I pick Sandy/Bel, I can get Monty dupes at 3%, muahaha! AkagiLul

shy hazel
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pro tip for u

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never select the build which has alot of same time

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in the ship u want tge most

zenith tundra
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pro tip useless unless u are a new player

shy hazel
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imagine bisko 4 30

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then u went heavy

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tons of shounen

elder crane
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You can't pick ships not already in the pool

finite valve
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pro tip just throw your money at the screen and build away until you get your desired ship

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work 50% of the time every time

elder crane
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and can't pick ships added to the pool before derp: after March 23rd

shy hazel
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btw

finite valve
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pretty sure most ppl here already got all ship before 23

shy hazel
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china maint should be here alrdy?

zenith tundra
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not new players

shy hazel
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we got datamine?

vagrant veldt
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Started 1 hr ago

shy hazel
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leak fast pls

zenith tundra
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it's useful for them

vagrant veldt
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Been camping for it

shy hazel
empty sinew
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then we'll actually get proper translations ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฟ

elder crane
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Useful for getting aurora for new players

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she's at, what, 0.3% right now?

zenith tundra
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why would u even need aurora

shy hazel
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i have ething in special

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1 in light

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2 in heavy

zenith tundra
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i need the 2 sr subs and arbecombies and sussex

elder crane
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I'm missing denver/dace, neither of which are selectable ๐Ÿšฎ

zenith tundra
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atago not even gonna bother

shy hazel
empty sinew
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why'd they limit to the 23rd

shy hazel
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pls zack

elder crane
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Atago is selectable at least smugBucky

empty sinew
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makes 0 sense

shy hazel
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i know u want that oneesan bewbs

zenith tundra
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i'm not building for her when she's free

shy hazel
zenith tundra
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u can get atago from 1st year anniversary

elder crane
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oh, really?

zenith tundra
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By logging in during the event a certain number of days, you will receive wonderful prizes such as Elite Kirishima Battleship (BB) and T5Box.png T5 equipment box.
Added an additional 8th day reward, "Invitation to the Anniversary". Use it to choose one of the following Super Rare ships:

San Diego
Belfast
Takao
Warspite
Hood
Enterprise
Illustrious
Prince of Wales
Atago

finite valve
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already got best Ara Ara since Z force

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weak sauce you got there mate

elder crane
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oh nice, they expanded the pool beyond the starter 7 for that

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Added Bel and Z force ships

finite valve
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out of all of those only atago and POW might be rare

elder crane
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I'll just pick up a WS dupe for WSkai I suppose

finite valve
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the other are just whatever

zenith tundra
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i have purins for whatever ship i need, they started multiplying in my dock

elder crane
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Yeah, I stopped buying them and I'm LBing rando SRs down to 4 left

finite valve
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still haven't mlb any new SR since nagato

elder crane
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I'm almost out of SRs to do that on though, since my remaining ones aren't 70 yet

finite valve
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PR + bisko event kill my gold usaged

zenith tundra
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yeah i'm not lb any sr ships unless really good

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that 10k gold for mlb is a killer

shell heron
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I still have too many purins. If i stop LBing SRs, they will overtake my dock space

zenith tundra
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there is bismark and kgv u can use 8 of them

finite valve
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with bisko + no gear skin out of the way i can start mlb SR again

shell heron
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those 2 for sure.

finite valve
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dk if KGV is any good

zenith tundra
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pr ships also killed my red books

finite valve
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plan to oath bisko ASAP

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dk about KGV tho

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need to see if she good or not

shell heron
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my only other choices is neps, vicky, and graf

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and kizunas

zenith tundra
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i have mlb vicky thinkpitz

finite valve
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all of my collab ship are still 70

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lel

shell heron
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I LBed my collab ships with dupes I pulled

empty sinew
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my gamer ai is 105

zenith tundra
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not even 1 of my collab ships is mlb

empty sinew
shell heron
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Purins won't be a problem if I had pulled any of the subs during the loli banner

zenith tundra
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and not even 1 at level 70

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i only got a dace dupe from lolis build

shell heron
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same, 1 dace

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I can't wait to see what skills bisko have tomorrow

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all this hype, shame if they're bad

empty sinew
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i'm willing to bet on a barrage + "extra damage to BBs" skill

zenith tundra
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as soon as they make available patch to phone people will datamine them

vagrant veldt
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I rather see new mechanics

zenith tundra
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for bbs?

vagrant veldt
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Abilities unique to them only

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And not another buff or barrage

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At least new like amagi barrage

shell heron
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doesn't one of the PR2 ships have something like that

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where you can control each of the shots

finite valve
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well the latest we have is yubari kai

empty sinew
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if she has no barrage, then ๐Ÿšฎ

finite valve
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her kai skill is kindda unique

elder crane
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I mean, Amagi barrage is just 4 barrages mashed together...

vagrant veldt
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Yes something unique like the PR2 ships

zenith tundra
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yubari retro skill might be the most dumb skill in the game

finite valve
shell heron
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I mean it's true. Amagi's barrage is a mash up of other barrages

vagrant veldt
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Amagi barrage had 1st MGM lock on

finite valve
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tell me if this skill is not unique?

elder crane
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Something like Gasconge barrage is at least visually unique

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or say, Georgia's

vagrant veldt
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The other lock ons were furthest away

shell heron
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Georgia's is interesting. huge arc that only hits far back

finite valve
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well he ask for unique

elder crane
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That's gascogne

finite valve
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not unique good

elder crane
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Georgia is the orbital laser beam barrage

zenith tundra
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2nd portion of georgia barrage tho is meh

vagrant veldt
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The second 127 barrage is a safety net

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Since without slows, the SHS isn't guaranteed to land

elder crane
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gotta admit it looks pretty cool

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or at least different

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FdG just looks like Izumo's/Big7 sadly, iirc

shell heron
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so FdG's barrage isn't too amazing then?

empty sinew
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visually boring

elder crane
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it's 3k base damage at 100% all armor mods on a wide spread with a few weak targeted shots

vagrant veldt
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It's like a slash of big seven shells with a Washington like barrage

zenith tundra
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i like it tbh

elder crane
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compare the usual 70% tight-ish barrages are about 2k base damage

shy hazel
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kgv is free ship

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something tells me

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shes not good for pvp

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maybe doy copy

elder crane
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FdG barrage is comparable to Izumo's iirc, in terms of what it does per barrage
The updated dev35 Izumo I mean

zenith tundra
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i hope she replaces qe

trim horizon
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and Bisko is for PvE emileSip

zenith tundra
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and it doesn't take much to do that

shell heron
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Bisko can possibly be for both. It's that one gear that will make her my go to PvE BB

elder crane
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We haven't seen how much it actually reduces 0 ammo penalty though

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if it's like -50% to -40%, ๐Ÿšฎ probably

zenith tundra
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not like i would use a bad ship only because of 1 0 ammo battle

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at this point just use tirp

shell heron
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so a 25% dmg reduction instead of 50

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or somewhere around there

empty sinew
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this confirmed?

elder crane
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that confirmed?

shell heron
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nope

empty sinew
elder crane
zenith tundra
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seems too op for an equip

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+25% dmg at 0 ammo

finite valve
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not like ppl having been clearing shit with 0 ammo fleet

zenith tundra
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for main fleet

elder crane
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+50% you mean, relative to not having the equip

finite valve
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if anything the gear just make it easier

shy hazel
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not really

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its a two ship only gear

elder crane
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75% instead of 50%

shy hazel
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if u ask me

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mikasa z flag is opier

elder crane
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... not really?

zenith tundra
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yeah but for all main fleet not 1 ship

shy hazel
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thts a single ship only gear

zenith tundra
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ur not boosting a half bad ship ur boosting all op ships in main fleet

elder crane
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Flag buffs aren't that big
and it's Mikasa-only, half of it, who's a subpar ship

shy hazel
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technically its not even a boost

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u need 0 ammo to proc it

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very niche use if u consider cat system coming

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thts one more ammo

elder crane
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"Increases Luck by 5, critical rate by 5%, and increases fleet FP and Accuracy by 5% if equipped on Mikasa "
pretty weak, and is limited to be run on a weak ship

shy hazel
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on real pve fleets

shell heron
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no main story chapters need more than 6 battles for boss.
only black sp for kizuna needed 7 fights

elder crane
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pretty sure 12/13 eventually gets up to 7 fights, no?

zenith tundra
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if that thing reduces dmg penalty from 0 ammo to half u would only use bismark for all clear fleets

shell heron
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13-4

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only 13-4

shy hazel
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๐Ÿ‘€

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u dont even want to go ammo 0

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in w13

elder crane
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Well, then cat+repair ship is 7 ammo, meaning more than 1 ambush is 0 ammo time on a 6 mob map
cat by itself is then hope for no ambush

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and with the ambush rate increasing for higher chapters...

shy hazel
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its good for 25% anyways smugBucky

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if that slim chnce happens

ionic magnet
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if jp/cn can clear chapter 13 w/o bisko then i dont see how we cant also

elder crane
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such a boost though likely means a cheaper farm fleet is possible

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possibly a much cheaper one

shy hazel
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thts the good thing about it

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if its theretically 25%

ionic magnet
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depends on her skills/stats we'll see

shy hazel
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the fact that shes pitz sister and is a bb is enuf

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if u ask me

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pitz v good in bomb ships

zenith tundra
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doesn't matter if it is 25% u would use her for other ships even if she's not great

shy hazel
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das why we waiting for chlinaleaks

zenith tundra
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@shy hazel did u finish 3rd pr ship grind?

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i somehow managed to finish izumo xp

shell heron
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You use sheffy as one of your VGs right bluerendar. How is she?

zenith tundra
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i don't really like her. she feels squishy and makes ur vg squishier against any cv comps

shy hazel
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still need 10%

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in a meeting rm

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i dont think ill make it

zenith tundra
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even against namaryuu juneau + belfast feels tankier then juneau + sheffiled, just yukikaze becomes a monster

shy hazel
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company has super big problem with logistics smugBucky

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i may get fired soon

vague token
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lol

shy hazel
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gonna go full shift in gaming soon

elder crane
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I feel like I like sheff a lot better
Not really that big of a diff though probably

vague token
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sheff is good

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i use sheff too =D

shy hazel
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i wish i grinded more

elder crane
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Ykkz becomes even more tanky, Jun is less likely to get torpsniped and is tankier vs most stuff in the matchups that matter

shy hazel
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dang iti dont like being delayed

vague token
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jun front is more consistent when sheff is mid

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since even if she eats stuff she doesnt die instantly

elder crane
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Oh, I just double boiler her and put her mid

shy hazel
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kiro farm for me i giv accnt

vague token
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xD

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im busy playing mhw sorry

zenith tundra
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idk i still feel like my vg just explodes fast only yukikaze makes up for it by herself

shy hazel
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who said u can reject

finite valve
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want me to farm for you?

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lel

elder crane
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Well, the only matchup that matters for offense is the mirror pretty much

shell heron
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or yukikaze explodes too warShrug

shy hazel
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nvm smugBucky

elder crane
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and no problem with exploding there

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at least nothing that bel really helps with

shy hazel
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k later boss will kill ne for typing in phone

shell heron
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who am I kidding, she's a cockroach that will outlive the rest of my VG most of the time

shy hazel
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he think im doing minutes

finite valve
ionic magnet
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my triple cv comp greatly appreciates no belfast VGs smugBucky

elder crane
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Don't get fired stella LeanderXD

zenith tundra
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belfast still on defense

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for me

elder crane
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Oh for sure

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you're not that good vs foxes that you can afford to drop Bel for defense

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maybe after some of shells, 120, or Hiryuu retro

shell heron
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Still a good amount of fox users out there. Use bel to give them a harder time smugBucky

zenith tundra
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i had a matchup vs nakaga where only my hiryuu and yukikaze were left vs all enemies backlines at 30%+ hp and still won. so dumb

elder crane
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I have bel stripped though, and ofc pearl on Sheff, so I'd rather not swap to set up defense, don't care that much

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I should've told you about the match where the enemy ykkz hard trolled me, right, Zack?

zenith tundra
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not sure

elder crane
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basically lost a 4v1 to ykkz from the most absurd RNG I've ever seen

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Namayuu/ykkz, at about 20-30% HP, vs a ~80% solo ykkz

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no barrage activations, almost no hits with anything on her, over 1.5 mins ykkz torps kill all but hiryuu in main

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then my ykkz eats a full spread of torps 1 by 1, leaving a near-0 HP hiryuu vs a ~1/3 HP ykkz

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at which point I reset

zenith tundra
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that yukikaze deserves an award for sure

elder crane
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and ofc the team I was facing gets steamrolled on reset
I only wish I was recording that match

coral wren
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SHit happens. Many matches where my hood or enty didn't proc at all. 70% my ass

shell heron
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Amagi and Nagato not with no barrage procs is awful. Especially against Hiryuu where I need Amagi to proc her skill early

vague token
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nagato is ok not procing

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as long as theirs doesnt

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xD

buoyant parrot
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guys which comes first? Hiryuu Kai or WS Kai?

zenith tundra
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hiryuu

buoyant parrot
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got it thanks then I'm done I guess ๐Ÿ˜‚

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once 120 cap comes in. Full 120 Fleet ๐Ÿ˜‚

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wall at 1st day

zenith tundra
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i'm 1m behind on the vg and 300k for hiryuu for 120

buoyant parrot
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I NEED THAT DAMN FREEDOM OIL!!!

zenith tundra
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idk if i would spent money on oil

buoyant parrot
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I always does e2Animated

vague token
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aww no bag

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xD

buoyant parrot
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now that you mentioned it yeah no bag.... so rare

zenith tundra
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i'm glad since i just got the 80$ gems

buoyant parrot
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good timing for you

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LUCKY ACKY~

ionic magnet
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literally no good skin

buoyant parrot
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I want monarch skin so soon so I can Lewd stare at it all day

ionic magnet
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not even bisko l2d

buoyant parrot
ionic magnet
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doesn't make sense to me

buoyant parrot
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well Intern-Kun said he is worried for our wallets~

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so I believe it will come soon enough

empty sinew
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wait til anniversary sandyMeme

buoyant parrot
ionic magnet
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thats fine but just take our monies pls

empty sinew
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that's when wallets be cryin, don't worry

ionic magnet
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z23 is anniv too i guess?

buoyant parrot
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welp we better work hard now so when that day comes we are ready to surrender all our hard earned cash

ionic magnet
zenith tundra
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8hr maint will be 8hr or 12?

vague token
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xD

shell heron
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After that last incident. I'll just do all 10 tonight

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I don't need to go -100 this season

zenith tundra
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i managed to lose another 2 due to sleep

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i have no oil and no gold... not sure if i want to farm 7-2 or not rn

buoyant parrot
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I'm obligated to run 7-2 and pt exchange event to finish Saint Louis lol

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im soooooooooo delayed

zenith tundra
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for izumo i went to 9-3... 3 backlines is not worth in 7-2

finite valve
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well you got 2h 23m to farm

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i don't think you can make it tbh

buoyant parrot
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impossible to finish Sanrui before maint

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its okay

zenith tundra
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3rd pr?

finite valve
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i already finish monarch but not going to build her soon

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not unless i finish bisko

buoyant parrot
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no its my 2nd still... got stuck

zenith tundra
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ok

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ugh i'd choose izumo over bismark tbh

buoyant parrot
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too busy doing story Grind for Ships affection

zenith tundra
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want that perfect pr record

buoyant parrot
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I have no more story to do after Ooshio

finite valve
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not like you can max or use them all anyway

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so no point

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i rather finish bisko day 1 then move on

zenith tundra
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it's an achievement for me and i worked pretty hard for it

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fuck bismark tbh

finite valve
zenith tundra
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i give 0 shit about her unless she's next amagi

buoyant parrot
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my coobs is at 158... well pathetic enough to warrant me in buying coobs incase my luck runs out

finite valve
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which she might be

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but yeh i say she is just a pve boat

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i have enough cubes but not enough good knowing my luck in event

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always lack gold

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zzz

zenith tundra
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i have cubes too

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gold just being murdered by the fact that i keep getting ibuki and roon researches

buoyant parrot
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welp see you guys after maint and lets talk about haw salty the result was ggAnimated

zenith tundra
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9.4k gems

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don't think so

buoyant parrot
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I don't want to result in spending gems this event

shy hazel
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so

buoyant parrot
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for gacha at least

shy hazel
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where are skill data

zenith tundra
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i have no gold

buoyant parrot
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sad la

zenith tundra
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55k rn and 20k for izumo

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so rip

buoyant parrot
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rest in peace 450 gems = 15k Gold ๐Ÿ˜ญ

shy hazel
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wait what

buoyant parrot
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no data still in wiki

shy hazel
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jp gets random skin box mutsukiStare

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we dont get any

zenith tundra
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frick that

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who needs it

buoyant parrot
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I'm sort of happy no bag this time

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that saves me $30

zenith tundra
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or u have gold to spend on skins instead of builds/research

finite valve
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JP don't have $30 bag tho?

shy hazel
buoyant parrot
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they have bag right?

shy hazel
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they announced one in stream

finite valve
buoyant parrot
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its fine that we don't get any... Its sort of a break to our wallets

shy hazel
finite valve
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not according to patch note

shy hazel
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not rly

finite valve
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dk about stream tho

shy hazel
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still got alot to buy

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30 usd pack is cheaper

finite valve
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that for anniversary

shy hazel
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than forcing me to buy 80

finite valve
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all of the new skin is for anniversary

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EN got 0 new shit

buoyant parrot
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that's good

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no spending

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๐Ÿ˜‚

finite valve
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even in that pic it does not say anything about the $30 pack

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so dk

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but i am pretty sure all the new skin are meant for anniversary

zenith tundra
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should it include it tho?

finite valve
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so EN got nothing new

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not until august 13th that is

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whale mode on

zenith tundra
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i don't get why jp gets them

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jp was released in september

finite valve
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dk dc less shit i need to spend for this month is always good

shy hazel
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i wont buy anything in en anniv

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im in japan tht time physically

finite valve
shy hazel
finite valve
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your loss mate

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more taihou for me

shy hazel
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gotta buy meine laffey phone case

finite valve
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want to show the world how much a degenerated weeb you are

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lel

zenith tundra
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not even aya ๐Ÿšฎ

shy hazel
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i work in a jap corp

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everyone else is weirdee

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than me

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im prolly the most normal

finite valve
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at this point data mine going to be after i already gone to sleep

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meh whatever i guess

zenith tundra
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lucky me i don't need to sleep till maint ends hipperMad

shy hazel
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oh

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im alrdy 97% nep

finite valve
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sound like a - to me lel

shy hazel
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i guess i finish on time

finite valve
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pray i get long PR com for maint

shy hazel
zenith tundra
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mine is gonna end in 45min if i'm lucky might get either a long one or short one and try again

coral wren
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Hm, is belfast still there for hms on jp? Or is she replaced by someone else

zenith tundra
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neptune

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u use neptune with yuki and juneau

coral wren
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crap, can't really stand yuki..

shell heron
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That free 12hr gold PR project sound real nice right about now. save that gold for more pulls

zenith tundra
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ws kai forces yukikaze in any matchup against her

coral wren
shell heron
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What's wrong with yukikaze, she protects your main fleet while being one very tanky DD

coral wren
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it's the character, dude, the character

zenith tundra
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u can always not like a ship

shell heron
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fair enough. I usually play with sounds muted so I can't hear the character at all

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And I don't like Juneau. She's a must in PvP so I use her

zenith tundra
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i don't like juneau at all too

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she's just a tool in the end

vague token
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i think juneau's personality is appropriate given her history

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xD

zenith tundra
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for me she looks like she wants to be sunk every time

finite valve
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Darkness approve of this message

coral wren
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It might be just me, but i find the majority of ijn fleet cringeworthy

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probably because many of them push the weeb level too far

finite valve
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not into anime crap i see

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more like you haven't reach that lvl lel

shell heron
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Character design or personality?

finite valve
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but yeh if you hate anime then there nothing you can do

shell heron
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If it's design, you prob like KC designs more warShrug

finite valve
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the new ship design tho

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especially nelson

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LMFAO

coral wren
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not into anime crap

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but playing AL?

shell heron
coral wren
vague token
zenith tundra
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i don't really like a lot of uss/hms bb feels like way too plain

finite valve
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here we have a man that is too much of a weeb for his own good

zenith tundra
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i know

finite valve
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on the other hand is a man that hate weeb with all of his being

vague token
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waiting for shangri-la because her insect collection skin is cool

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xD

finite valve
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lel

coral wren
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In the wrong neighbourhood

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I mean, there is such thing as too much warShrug characters like yuki or san diego are tolerable to a certain extent untill they cross the line when it becomes just ridiculous

finite valve
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want ridiculous?

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try school day

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if anything this game is just your average course

vague token
#

i guess i should do 10 matches just in case

#

hope i dont eat a 9 xD

finite valve
#

now you mention it

#

any 1 going to just fuck it and rush attempt?

#

want to do a head count

coral wren
#

Yuki is cool if you marry her

zenith tundra
#

i go to 2-3 left since i'm behind but i won't push all the way

shell heron
#

I'll still sandbag til the very end

finite valve
#

tfw they going to fuck up and do another 12h maint

coral wren
#

why not rollback ๐Ÿ˜„

zenith tundra
#

my chances at aotn are already close to 0 with 7 behind

shell heron
#

this late in the season. no chance of rollback

finite valve
#

bro like i said i did mine with 8 loss

vague token
#

lol rollback

finite valve
#

you still doable

shell heron
#

Avrora server?

coral wren
#

i know, but that would be hilarious to behold another al en flop

finite valve
#

yes avrora

zenith tundra
#

not like i can sandbag since no one is moving

shell heron
#

I don't trust anymore than 3 losses unless I had a great start to the season

vague token
#

isnt daily reward desynced already

shell heron
#

I got +3 this reset so far. Kinda shows how bad that -50 affected my score

zenith tundra
#

it's desynced but u don't get it 1hr earlier

shell heron
#

or more people actually move down here

finite valve
#

lel i got +0 this reset

shell heron
#

I wonder who will be season rank 1 this time.

#

Some of the regulars are already out

vague token
#

god i hate it when my amagi is losing the damage race against hiryuu compared to my sara lol

#

rng reee

odd schooner
vague token
#

really annoying when crippling strike aimed shots just go some random spot

#

and you lose like all the damage

shell heron
#

Sometimes it does 75% of Hiryuu's HP

#

other times you wonder where did it even land

vague token
#

yeah

shell heron
vague token
#

like sara has 2k more hp

#

than hiryuu

#

and here i am losing

#

trades because of the rng

#

wish the barrages had aiming rules or didnt have aiming components >_>

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or if they are aimed, they have a rule that says they always perform consistently

zenith tundra
#

i prefer her the way she is

vague token
#

i mean, you can mirror and trade barrages every time

#

and lose

#

because of aiming rng

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

or use hiryuu and have twice the chances to win

vague token
#

when kai is out ;)

zenith tundra
#

when kai is out gonna quit pvp till ws kai

vague token
#

xD

zenith tundra
#

the dumbness of namaryuu mirror with hiryuu kai doesn't sound fun

vague token
#

but yeah, fixed aiming rules like ws and dork are good, just like fixed spread like hood/monarch is good

#

you can predict the damage because they are consistent

#

amagi is like

#

well, 50% of the damage goes who knows where

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

her aiming free part is best thing for amagi

vague token
#

i mean, if all ships are weighted equally

#

it's almost a 50/50 chance of being a whiff

#

T_T

zenith tundra
#

vg dies eventually

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unless ur sara does no dmg because of trash build

#

(not a fan at all of speed build for her)

vague token
#

i swapped to stuka because of vanguard

#

with RWG it increases odds of killing them

#

since i get more bomb chances

#

it's basically i cant consistently snipe hiryuu to win through better bulk

#

because sometimes the aim gun

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just goes to vanguard

#

so it becomes gamble time

#

instead of kill secured early final counter while both vanguards are up

#

if i try dueling amagis, also another gamble

zenith tundra
#

amagi on amagi is worse then gambling

vague token
#

xD

#

and of course

#

big seven gamble

#

but that's normal

#

"do they roll 2 more big sevens than you? you lose"

#

im pretty sure that's true even if i swapped hiryuu in

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

there might be a yukikaze % in there too

vague token
#

yeah, although i dont mind her cause if she sails into a sara torp, it still applies the full debuff

#

xD

#

/waiting for essex

#

/no extinguisher for flood

#

that an essex flood is triple the damage of sara flood

#

or something

#

sara has a .2

#

so i feel like it'll be higher xD

#

but i guess we'll see what biscuit does in 10 hours

#

maybe we can swap out nagato

#

early

zenith tundra
vague token
#

freeeeeedom

#

xD

ionic magnet
#

yea i feel like theres as much namaryuus now as nakagas

shell heron
#

On the bright side, they seem to be using oxy torps or something of the sort

#

makes it easier for me

ionic magnet
#

tho ofc only few are optimized

zenith tundra
#

u can see those optimized

#

u hit a wall

shell heron
#

I'm more scared of Namaryuu with a 12.5k VG because thats likely to be optimized

vague token
#

yeah that's what i hit

zenith tundra
#

my vg is 13k but still optimized so warShrug

vague token
#

sheffield has lower bases than belfast

#

so it lowers vanguard power

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

fleet tech and weird equip left us with weird stuff

blazing scroll
#

Mine is 12950 but I run Portland smugBucky

shell heron
#

I wonder what my VG power will be if I use twin 100mm and oxy on yuki

vague token
#

i dont like being slow in this meta

#

if the hiryuu runs ryuusei it gets awkward real fast

blazing scroll
#

I do run double boiler and beaver

#

So it isn't that slow

zenith tundra
#

i use barracuda

blazing scroll
#

But Portland will be replaced with Sanrui eventually

shell heron
#

13232 compared to 12575

vague token
#

my beaver is on saint louis atm xD

zenith tundra
#

it's more consistent then ryuusei at least on offense

vague token
#

cuda offense is better

#

because you get more back pressure

#

so force early final counter ;)

#

defense is might as well ryuusei all in

#

vanguards are dead? just delete amagi and nagato

#

ez

zenith tundra
#

818 when

vague token
#

when shells come out

#

eg Soon (tm)

zenith tundra
#

at that point fuck both cuda and ryuusei

vague token
#

or centaur lol

zenith tundra
#

i'm not switching out hiryuu not even for taihou

vague token
#

if we get taihou before hiryuu kai that will be an option i think

#

she wont take much from big seven side lasers

#

reduces amagi shelling damage taken

#

and RNG FUN TIMES

#

spin the wheeeeeel

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

even with 20% dmg reduction is her rng dmg better then final counter?

blazing scroll
#

Would WASD come back if we get Essex? thinkpitz

vague token
#

no

#

also probably, cuda counter doesnt hurt that much

zenith tundra
#

essex is good against cv comps

#

meta is namagi so i don't think is worth

coral wren
#

rn it's battleships all over the place

blazing scroll
#

She also deals additional dmg to bbs

vague token
#

you'd be better off doing like

#

amagi/x/essex and 3 eagle vanguard

#

if you really want that cv shield

#

than wasd/essex xD

#

or maybe 2 eagle and use like enterprise or sara kai

zenith tundra
#

essex is barely any tankier then enty and she doesn't have a cloak

blazing scroll
vague token
#

i mean she's squishier i think

zenith tundra
#

i wouldn't be surprised if she were easily shoot down by barrages

vague token
#

small hp boost, big drop in evade

#

although i guess at 120 it isnt as bad

#

essex has 140 fighter efficiency memes xD

blazing scroll
#

The difference at 120 is only 8 eva between enty and essex

zenith tundra
#

2 more bps for dev 20 on roon and got a roon specific research

vague token
#

woo!

blazing scroll
#

Dayum

zenith tundra
#

too bad dev 20 is useless for her

blazing scroll
#

I wish my rng was better for sanrui

zenith tundra
#

ugh if only roon barrage wasn't dev 30... that thing looks so ridiculous

vague token
#

what is level 1 roon barrage like

zenith tundra
#

not even half of final one tbh

vague token
#

oh

#

cause i thought saint louis level 1 was ok

#

it covers a wide area

#

goes like top to bottom

#

or w/e

zenith tundra
#

2 diagonals shoots and 3 in a trident pattern shoot once in he and once in ap

coral wren
#

Jintsuu or Bel

vague token
#

oh weird

shell heron
#

I rushed my 10 for the night and not a single +9

zenith tundra
#

it lacks all the triple straight bullets

shell heron
#

if someone had me on their list Clap

vague token
#

i am getting 2 +9s

#

but safety first

#

xD

shy hazel
#

100% neptune sandyMeme

zenith tundra
#

gg

shy hazel
#

now who to pick next

zenith tundra
#

for me is nep

shy hazel
#

i need someone who can farm the event too

#

maybe louis

zenith tundra
#

belfast can farm elites easily for me

shy hazel
#

elites yes

#

sirens i dont think so

vague token
#

do prs cost more cog chips?

shy hazel
vague token
#

xD

steep fog
#

im gonna stop doing roon

zenith tundra
#

i used belfast in wc and no problems

steep fog
#

and do ibuki in event

shy hazel
#

i believe its the same

coral wren
#

I heard Essex

vague token
#

ok

coral wren
#

Essex is T0 fight me

shy hazel
#

essex is t0 but out of meta

shell heron
#

Man my PR bps are all spread pretty evenly with a range of 38 to 55

coral wren
#

Sheโ€™s out of the game definitely

shy hazel
#

basically backline yukikaze

coral wren
shy hazel
#

lol

zenith tundra
#

pr ships cost like sr ships dunno about dp ships @vague token

shell heron
#

38 being sanrui longcryland

vague token
#

ok

coral wren
#

So is Bel Better or Jintsuu for 3rd slot?

blazing scroll
#

Feelsbadman

vague token
#

i mean, what's your goal

#

they do completely different things lol

shell heron
#

It's do you have a torp VG and want to nuke the enemy VG down fast

#

or play more defensively

coral wren
#

I just want to reset less...

#

And not lose

shell heron
#

then what's your other 2 VG ships?

ionic magnet
vague token
#

two +9s for safety

#

xD

ionic magnet
#

kiro never rush when i get him on my list

shy hazel
#

fkin hell

zenith tundra
#

lol

vague token
#

look, you gotta tell me

shy hazel
#

kiro is higher than me

vague token
#

and ill collude

ionic magnet
#

oof

vague token
#

if im awake

ionic magnet
#

noted

shell heron
#

I did all mines and I'm only rank 17 longcryland

vague token
#

im down 1 game actually too xD

shy hazel
#

ill sandbag till the end

zenith tundra
#

i'll be sitting on some fore sure

shy hazel
#

sandbag or quit

blazing scroll
#

I already quit smugBucky

zenith tundra
#

7 behind not much to lose

blazing scroll
#

I'm behind 15 attacks entyLUL

coral wren
#

Juneau and Ykkz

#

Literally everyone uses the same stuff

vague token
#

well yeah, they're best in slot lol

#

using other stuff lowers your Odds of winning

coral wren
#

Only difference I see is Bel vs Jintsuu

zenith tundra
#

use daxam strat and just go qe hood amagi

coral wren
#

I am assuming Bel is better?

vague token
#

sometimes i wonder if i should meme with beaver AND RWG on sara, and then use double gold dives again

#

for extra tank power

shell heron
#

I prefer bel

vague token
#

bel also helps troll the casuals still running like nagafoxes or amakaga

#

;)

blazing scroll
#

tfw you want to do a long research project before maintenance but the game only gives you small ones

coral wren
#

Ok, gona park jintsuu then, just got her, guess she'll stay in Pve

zenith tundra
#

the best thing about belfast imo is that she can negate a nagato barrage with her 1st smoke but that's rng

vague token
#

you can also gamble with sheffield

#

for more rng

#

like me

#

;)

#

and blue

zenith tundra
#

sheffield is less rng actually

vague token
#

i know blue uses sheffield

red nexus
#

But isn't sheffy kinda bad in pvp

vague token
#

no?

shell heron
#

not entirely

red nexus
#

Doesn't her defensive skill only proc once per game?

zenith tundra
#

i use sheffield too but dunno about it. it still feels like way too squishy for me

#

no

vague token
#

sheffield is squishy against torp but works better against stall

#

because you just outstall the stall

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

it's a buff that last for the whole battle

vague token
#

while torp splashes her mid

#

although i think you can actually just rotate sheffield to lead

#

against torp

#

and just make her eat the majority

#

then get a better juneau timing

#

since she'll be taking less big seven damage

#

not sure though

zenith tundra
#

all ships that have less hp then sheffield at the beginning of the battle have a 30% chance to reduce dmg taken by 50% even after sheffield dies @red nexus

vague token
#

it's a static buff

#

it just checks at the start

#

/if only there was a squishy cvl that worked

#

/and actually had attack power

red nexus
#

Less hp total or less hp in %

zenith tundra
#

bm can get her buff too

#

less hp as number

red nexus
#

Because i thought it was less hp in %

vague token
#

oh, it's flat

red nexus
#

That's why i thought she's bad

vague token
#

nope, it checks flat hp

shell heron
#

It checks at the start of battle. Will be weird if it was % when every ship is at 100%

vague token
#

more like useless

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

i mever do those

#

not even enough oil to feed my dorm

vague token
#

ive been going minimal runs

#

just dailies

#

im soft cap oil and gold atm

#

same, atelier lulua taking my time

#

that and QE/Saint Louis is ok oil cost in 3-4

#

when you arent hardcore farming

#

maybe ill get akagi!

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

the sooner i finish pr ships the faster i can forget about them

vague token
#

the sooner you can put izumo on the bench!

#

xD

#

rip

zenith tundra
#

not like anyone but roon will be usable in the next 2 months

vague token
#

skill 10 saint louis will be better than portland

#

if you're using portland for w/e reason

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

i don't

buoyant parrot
#

pvp is so fucked up that you get +9 despite rank difference.

vague token
#

wait wut

zenith tundra
#

... visual bug

coral wren
#

@modern tree the max point diff is 500? Where you get the most of points if you win

buoyant parrot
#

just look at this

#

+3

vague token
#

ugh last research are all 2.5 hour

#

sadness

zenith tundra
#

the animation is cancelled if u tap before the counter finishes and it get stuck at whatever number it was

buoyant parrot
zenith tundra
#

if u want to see what u get just don't tap

elder crane
#

I got a 8H one but idk if I want to commit the coin right now

zenith tundra
#

i was lucky with a 2.5hr roon one so rip

elder crane
#

Was hoping for a C project, but no luck on that

shell heron
#

When you wanted that 12hr C project the most, it doesnt show up

#

But it's there as the first project of the day before

zenith tundra
#

my luck with some rerolls was terrible these days. going from nothing useful to 3-4/5 equip researches

shy hazel
#

tine for more

#

en alchemaintenance

#

its all rocket science

vague token
#

oh boi

#

2 minutes

lime rivet
#

Bismarck datamine is out

#

And whoo.

zenith tundra
#

just saw it

#

that tirp 40% buff

vague token
#

linky?

zenith tundra
#

wtf

#

Wahrheit
The first round of cross-shots of each shelling must be crit; when the auxiliary guns are equipped with light patrol main guns, the range of the sub-cannons and the range of the sub-cannons are increased to 65 (90), and the damage caused by the auxiliary guns is reduced by 35%.

Unyielding power
As a flagship attack, 40% (70%) of its main gun shots trigger a round of barrage, and the damage caused by the iron-blooded aircraft carrier is increased by 10% (20%).

Iron will
At the time of the attack, the team's iron-blooded player's role in shelling, lightning strikes, aviation weapon crit rate increased by 5% (25%), loading increased by 4.5% (12%); Tilbitz increased damage by 20% (40%)

#

it's a google translation

vague token
#

why is there a team buff on the barrage skill

zenith tundra
#

flagship barrage lol

vague token
#

like what

#

also excuse me 90 range CL guns?

#

isnt that like most of the vanguard screen?

zenith tundra
#

-35% dmg tho

modern tree
#

It's just Nagato, except kms cvs are nowhere near as powerful

vague token
#

i mean that's ok though, should still plink for like 200 per shot

#

also a 25% crit rate boost xD

lime rivet
#

That secondary boost is...interesting

vague token
#

the perfect thing to come with the shells we dont have

vagrant veldt
#

่‹ฑ็Ž‹ไน”ๆฒปไบ”ไธ–
ๆœ€้€‚ๅŒ–ๆญฆ่ฃ…
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ๆ—ฅไธ่ฝ็š„่พ‰ๅ…‰
่‡ช่บซๅฏน้‡ๆจฑ็พคๅฒ›ใ€้“่ก€ๅ…ฌๅ›ฝใ€ๆ’’ไธๅธๅ›ฝๅŠๅกžๅฃฌ้˜ต่ฅ่ˆฐ่ˆน้€ ๆˆ็š„ไผคๅฎณๆๅ‡4%(10%);้˜Ÿๅ‹ไธญๅญ˜ๅœจ3ไธชไปฅไธŠ็š‡ๅฎถ่ˆฐ้˜Ÿ้˜ต่ฅ่ง’่‰ฒๆ—ถ,่‡ช่บซ็‚ฎๅ‡ปใ€่ฃ…ๅกซใ€ๆœบๅŠจใ€้˜ฒ็ฉบๅฑžๆ€งไธŠๅ‡4%(20%)

zenith tundra
#

King George V
Optimum armed
In combat, there is a 40% (70%) probability to trigger the barrage every 24 seconds; when equipped with four 356mm main guns, the first shot of the main gun is reduced by 55% (75%), and the main shot crit rate is increased by 10%. (20%), the main gun spread reduced by 2 points and enhanced the barrage style

Glow of the sun
Self-importing, loading, maneuvering, and air defense properties of the Sakura Islands, the Iron and Blood Principality, the Sardinian Empire, and the Sergeant's squadron's damage increased by 4% (10%); when there are more than three Royal Fleet camp characters in the teammates 4% increase (20%)

modern tree
#

Tbh, the aux reaching super far combined with item that reduces no ammo penalty will probably make her one of the best pve bbs if her barrage isn't trash

vague token
#

oh what do you know, a quad gun bonus for kgv

#

i hope i saved one

#

xD

#

cause im pretty sure i didnt lol

modern tree
#

24 seconds is so slow

blazing scroll
vague token
#

not that

#

75% reload speed

zenith tundra
#

75% reduced 1st shoot tho

vague token
#

on first quad

zenith tundra
#

6 sec

vague token
#

spread reduction too

blazing scroll
#

I got a couple of those quads in storage ๐Ÿ‘€

livid fractal
#

HMS buff GWmythiMonkaT

vague token
#

20% damage boost

modern tree
#

I guess with a quad you get a free shot and then one along with her barrage. Not to mention she buffs other factions? She's pretty broken

vague token
#

so is it like

modern tree
#

Getting 4 HMS is as hard as using Sheff or Belfast in vg

vague token
#

buff all team mates, but if you have 3 hms you buff more for everyone?

#

or am i interpreting that wrong

coral wren
#

Soo... rn the only thing kms might need is vanguard and then it's quite ok. Like those cv buffs, but zep needs good planes to work with

odd schooner
#

Wow wtf HMS Amagi?

modern tree
#

KGV is legit busted for pvp wtf lol

vague token
#

if only i didnt recycle my quads

#

xD

vagrant veldt
#

KGV second skill

increase own damage against Sakura, Ironblood, French, Sirens by 4%(10%), when there are 3 or more royal navy ships, increase own FP, reload, evasion, AA by 4%(20%)

vague token
#

oh

#

nvm that isnt as interesting

zenith tundra
#

that's actually ok

modern tree
#

Who cares about KMS Nagato, KGV is my best friend now

vague token
#

it's a better PoW buff

vagrant veldt
#

pretty potent self buff

modern tree
#

Her damage on shelling will be higher than Warspite kai

vague token
#

will it?

zenith tundra
#

i'm curious about her barrage

odd schooner
#

24s nuke?

zenith tundra
#

6 sec nuke

modern tree
#

10% more damage, 20% more fp, alpha strike and a barrage

vague token
#

10% against crimson axis

#

that is

#

xD

odd schooner
#

Spread reduction too

steep fog
#

the 3 or more hms ships thing does it include herself?

vague token
#

if everyone swaps to hms

steep fog
#

like amagi?

vague token
#

you wont get the boost

#

;)

odd schooner
#

Enhanced too wtf

modern tree
#

You miss only 10% damage in a mirror

steep fog
#

cos kgv monarch centaur sounds lit

odd schooner
#

You can't remove warspite kai

vague token
#

well, centaur wont trigger on 2nd gun

#

only the barrage

#

i think?

ionic magnet
#

these google translations are killing me

vague token
#

cause you'll shoot at 6, then like 32 lol

#

or w/e

#

weird timing

steep fog
#

hmm so u can run tirp+ bismark together huh

zenith tundra
#

yes

vague token
#

yes

modern tree
#

Can just run QE like a normal person

ionic magnet
#

kgv skills look good smugBucky

steep fog
#

any way kgv is free so it doesnt matter

vague token
#

im surprised at how many crit rate skills they're putting out for shell damage

vague token
#

give us shells!

steep fog
#

what matters is how many cubes do I need for bisko

modern tree
#

If her barrage is good then Monarch is redundant and you will probably end up with KGV QE and Warspite

vague token
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inb4 it's dork barrage

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XD

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just HE

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;)))

modern tree
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Monarch becomes obsolete before she's usable derp

vagrant veldt
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targets Hood (where ever she is)

finite valve
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enjoy

vague token
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what is cross shots of each shelling

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lol

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is that the first set of bullets?

midnight heron
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can i haz data source ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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in each MGM set?

vagrant veldt
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first mgm

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cross shots I assume is ่ทจๅฐ„ = salvos

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but it isnt like dork's though

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where it is one per battle right?

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?_?

zenith tundra
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each 1st mg shoot should be

vague token
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that's big yikes

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auto crit

zenith tundra
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and rip pvp because is almost always vg shoot

steep fog
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wtf 24s cooldown barrage

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trash

vagrant veldt
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ๆฏๆฌก็‚ฎๅ‡ป็š„้ฆ–่ฝฎ่ทจๅฐ„ is the same wording style as Jean Bart

vague token
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oh

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that means once per battle then?

zenith tundra
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can u compare to doy skill?

vagrant veldt
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Jean bart has a skill buffing her mgm

coral wren
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inb4 kgv barrage dmg is lacking

vagrant veldt
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the wording suggests it isn't a one time skill

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i guess it says every?

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in wiki

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hmmm

zenith tundra
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wiki isn't 100% fool proof but would be trash if only 1 per battle

vague token
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so like dork then

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lol

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T_T

vagrant veldt
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ๆฏๆฌก็‚ฎๅ‡ป็š„้ฆ–่ฝฎ่ทจๅฐ„ refers to the first salvo of every BB attack

vague token
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ok

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that's nice i guess

finite valve
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so bisko is 1 mg shoot auto crt or dmg buff
buff CV aviation
then QE style buff to KMS ship + a 40% dmg buff to tirpt

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sound OP OP lel

zenith tundra
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that 40% is such a freebie tbh

vague token
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it just cancels out

finite valve
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to counter act tirpt skill lel

vague token
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the tirpitz not having her own skill lol

vagrant veldt
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is one of Ironblood's final notable ships

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basically at the end of the tech tree

zenith tundra
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don't worry fdg cv will make it right

vague token
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so like double shell biscuit guns will hit like a truck

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lol

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who needs focused assault gambling

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when you get 100% crit rate

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on the first set

zenith tundra
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black is pointless

vague token
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every time lol

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no the white shell

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25% crit damage lol

zenith tundra
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ik

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but black not worth it

coral wren
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they really should start changing skills not via retrofits, some of the stuff is just old and irrelevant

vague token
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oh wait they dont stack

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radar shell it is

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xD

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meanwhile in RIP CV land

lime rivet
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Oh, datamine source is dubious

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Skills may not be real

ionic magnet
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lol why

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oh

zenith tundra
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reee

lime rivet
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CN quotes 4chan as the source

ionic magnet
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lime rivet
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The last set of bismarck skill leaks were also from 4chan...and i suspect they were posted by the same guy that posted the skills here

zenith tundra
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i hope they are real

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just need to build bismark to know for sure

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another 7hr...

vague token
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just build both of them ez

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xD

vagrant veldt
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can't confirm anything about the leak since CN didn't get a predownload

dense lynx
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how are they "dubious"

vagrant veldt
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maint is extended for an unknown amount of time as well

dense lynx
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rip pvp GWqlabsYaoLUL

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again

zenith tundra
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did jp get predownload?

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i don't see any of those ships as ws kai broken

shy hazel
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good

zenith tundra
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they seems pretty good and not necessarily game breaking

shy hazel
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hms and kms has new endgame

steep fog
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4chan is always true dont u know smugBucky

vague token
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well biscuit clearing will be silly

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with 90 range aux gun lol

shy hazel
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who would have thought this patch will kill qe

vague token
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and the ammo penalty thing

coral wren
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And that's a good thing

zenith tundra
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that 90 range might be too much for pvp tbh

vagrant veldt
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QE: wait till I get my retrofit....

shy hazel
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i stop friendship with qe