pvp

[zenith tundra]

maybe just a small patch

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

we don't even have an ETA on how long the maint is

[shy hazel]

it was 8hours

prolly short now

[finite valve]

that was for the UI update

i doubt a remove event maint going to last that long

[shy hazel]

there should be ,

2hours one

they never had a shorter maint iirc

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

they tried 1 hour

got so bugged

they did maint again

[finite valve]

also all these talk about 2 set of tiger and cat while i already finish my 2 set around months ago

lel

[elder crane]

they did a lot more that maint though

[shy hazel]

theres well

new skin too

though its a mini event

[elder crane]

There were new mechanics that time around iirc
Which is what got bugged
This time just a event data change
Though I suppose they don't want to mess up skin price again

[shy hazel]

anyways i just need to finish 80% today

maint or not maint

[elder crane]

I'm sure hoping for a surprise accidental skin discount, if the skins are any good

[shy hazel]

unicorn skin bug price is good what

we got it cheaper

[elder crane]

Yeah, I snapped that up

[shy hazel]

l2d cheaper than non l2d skin

with new,voice too

2op

[elder crane]

I don't really usually buy skins though
So Yostar probs actually made monies off of me on bug

[shy hazel]

all according to keikaku

[elder crane]

inb4 calculated decision
want to experiment with diff price points, but don't want to reveal that
cause "bug"
"oh noes prices messed up"
This way ppl don't complain

[shell heron]

That was a planned "accident"

to keep us from getting mad from getting hatsushimo as a banner instead of free ship

[elder crane]

Isn't she in the pool perma now? was added some point iirc

[shell heron]

yes, but you know rares

[elder crane]

elites in light are even worse I think

Haven't done the calcs for with monty out, is each SR in light still higher % than each common in light?

[zenith tundra]

elite in light are as bad as sr in special

it should be since 7%/3 is like 2.3%

there need to be less then 24 commons in light for them to have better %

[stone grove]

I seriously hope people using Nagato in Enty+Sarakai are just using her because she's their best levelled BB
I'm pretty sure Nagato only buffs IJN + IJN CV after rereading her skill

[shy hazel]

theyre low tier memers

[elder crane]

I count 27 commons in light for EN

So, yep, Sandy still more common than commons

[shy hazel]

hatsushimo took me 400 cubes

who u kidding

[ionic magnet]

i mean if theyre using enty and sara kai then yea most likely

[shy hazel]

light build is stupid

[shy hazel]

little ships was easier

[finite valve]

200 cubes alone is around 95%

[elder crane]

Enty/Sarakai are just good ships, for peeps without Hiryuu
some CN guy rec'd them for EN as substitue iirc, and ofc some come up with it on their own

[finite valve]

just show how unlucky you are lel

[shy hazel]

doesnt matter tbh

mu luck rebounded after that

i always buy cubes anyways so luck doesnt matter anyways

[ionic magnet]

how unlucky is it to not pull nagato in 200 rolls

[stone grove]

I'm working on levelling Hiryuu so Enty+Sarakai are my placeholders for now
When I've got Hiryuu levelled and Monarch dev'd might try Nagato+Hiryuu+Monarch
Last one because no Amagi

[finite valve]

i rather whale for gold

[elder crane]

something like 1.7% iirc

[finite valve]

cubes imo is not worth it

[elder crane]

yep, 1.7%

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

feelsbad being top 1%

[shy hazel]

easy to collect gold

cubes not rly

[elder crane]

it's 50/50 every 34 pulls for a 2% ship (approximately)

[finite valve]

well if you consider farming 7-2 24/7 is ez

or hard cap gold

[shy hazel]

doesnt even matter

i even bought all shop golds alrdy

[elder crane]

If you have 400+ cubes, pretty sure you can't farm enough gold to drain it over 1 event without some serious nolifeing
and maybe not even then

[shy hazel]

im tilted when i dont get ships i want

[stone grove]

Eh I got like 170 cubes
Only been actively saving since the 27th

[shy hazel]

within first 3 days

[zenith tundra]

day 0 or dont bother

[shy hazel]

nagato ykkz is day 0

[elder crane]

Wash was the only ship I actively wanted that I didn't get day 0, I think
But my excuse is that was early on so hadn't stocked res as high as nowadays

[stone grove]

I got Nagato 3 days before ISSS ended

Blew my cubes day1 then threw whatever I could scrounge in the build

[zenith tundra]

i think there is no safe amount of cubes if u get unlucky

[elder crane]

On CN it took me until the very last day
I had given up all hope when she came

[stone grove]

Got after 5 Kawakaze and 3d before ISSS ended

[ionic magnet]

lets stop talking about nagato pulls please

[shy hazel]

apparently raven bought 2.4k cubes

and no essex

[ionic magnet]

what

[elder crane]

well even with like 1000 cubes, the stats say someone in the server will likely still fail to pull iirc

[zenith tundra]

poor people

[shy hazel]

there is no safety net

[finite valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514333481061449729/565893629910974464/Biggest_Yikes.png

[elder crane]

or actually a handful of people, 1 in 24k on average

[shy hazel]

there will be a day of reckoning

[ionic magnet]

yikes

[shy hazel]

i wish if i dont get something in an event

that event will be rerun asap

[ionic magnet]

he didn't quit after that did he

[stone grove]

Honestly I'm going to be hardcore saving after Bisko comes home
I want some of the ships off DC rerun, Jean Bart off Iris, and Essex off Anniv

[shy hazel]

he earns money by streaming

prolly just his earnings went 0

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

if i dont get anything after buying 300 cubes

ill stoo

p

[elder crane]

I'd never buy res to pull personally

[shy hazel]

thats what happened to hatsushitmo

[elder crane]

the chance per $ spent is pretty low

[shy hazel]

but alas

i got hatsushimo on the very last

literal minute

lol

[elder crane]

I got her off my daily pull on day 3 or something iirc

I've gotten super lucky with quite a few ships now

[shy hazel]

i dont care for kizuna but i just got last kizuna ytd

daily 3 builds

[elder crane]

most poignant one was atago
at time she was my last ship left, missed during Z force
got her 1st pull in heavy

[shy hazel]

still no fakyu shells tho

[zenith tundra]

i'll get atago on 1st anniversary

[shy hazel]

i alrdy scrapped 3 atagos

[zenith tundra]

never bothered pulling for her

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

idc not like i need her

[shy hazel]

k i stop chatting and focus farm

ciao

chat makes my grind slow

[zenith tundra]

cant u do both?

[shy hazel]

im working rn

unless u want me working while grinding and chatting

👀

[zenith tundra]

im working chatting and farming lol

[shy hazel]

not me hey

[buoyant parrot]

Spent $360 on atago 1st event and $80 on the extension apology and finally got her... It cost me a total of whopping $420

[shy hazel]

[stone grove]

I'm gonna probably take Lusty or PoW from the anniv invite
I'll deffo get Hood before anniv, exam rewards

[buoyant parrot]

Don't ask why.

[shy hazel]

i dont need anyone

[zenith tundra]

i like smart phones

[shy hazel]

i got everyone in pick ticket

i dont wanna 2 screen rn

[buoyant parrot]

Oh and we have 1 slot in the guild right now for those interested. Kisha Fenn and Zack is in my guild and there's 1 more here I forgot his name

[shy hazel]

meanwhile were purging casuals soon

[stone grove]

Who needs a guild when you can have a server

[buoyant parrot]

We don't have absenty in the guild 2 days absent = Kick lol 37/38 all active

[finite valve]

are you talking to me?
since yeh i am pretty casual by your standard

[lament lichen]

am casual

[shy hazel]

vy

liars go to limbo

[stone grove]

But ye I'm casual so

[buoyant parrot]

You need guild incase of guild content as what CoE-Chan promised... And we ain't accepting new bloods by then 😂

[stone grove]

Understandable

[finite valve]

meh unless it is guild war your so call new content ain't going to matter shit

[buoyant parrot]

Somewhat true

[vague token]

gotta earn those guild points that dont do anything yet

;)

they should've done guild tech instead of fleet tech

xD

[lime rivet]

[vague token]

hmm, not sure if ill get a bonus point from rank 1025 to rank 1365 (me)

[coral wren]

is it not recommended to use twin 127mm on Nagato and Amagi? over Belgun?

[vague token]

25 aa is nice

some people like their fp though

[coral wren]

oki

[buoyant parrot]

speaking of guild points I think im on 13k now

[zenith tundra]

i think thats like 1 attempt. might not be enough for a +1

got only +15 from rank 900 vs 1.3k

[buoyant parrot]

I got a plus 6 right after my day starts

so weird

[zenith tundra]

im not getting anything tbh

[buoyant parrot]

prolly not just your day

[zenith tundra]

more then 2 bonuses is already

all this past days all the same tbh

[buoyant parrot]

but why

[zenith tundra]

not many people seem to play pvp tbh

[buoyant parrot]

its dying out I guess

[vague token]

also last minute farming probably

[buoyant parrot]

we need stella to bug again the devs to do something about PvP... we need sponsor egul!

calling @shy hazel do your magic

[zenith tundra]

i think im doing a good job farming xp but still play pvp

[buoyant parrot]

My Saint Louis farm got delayed so hard that I'm going to chill now

my oil depletes so fast in 11-4 I'm hunting Columbia

[zenith tundra]

u have 6 days to farm 3m xp

[buoyant parrot]

and can't move forward if I don't have her

I need to have her so I can climb the top 10 in the Collection ranking

[zenith tundra]

ill never reach that too many special build ships im missing

[buoyant parrot]

meanwhile fleet ranking I already hold the RANK 5 position permanently until I move forward to 4... I can do that at ease... But I'm saving more so current number 4 won't be able to hit back when I steal the position from him/her

oh and please don't tell

😂

[zenith tundra]

120 cubes wasted on special on lolis and all i got are same old trash sr ships. that pool can go fuck off for what i care

[buoyant parrot]

now you understand why my 800 cubes went kapput...

fuck the event... fuck the lolis... fuck kizuna...

[zenith tundra]

why did u even pull for? subs?

[buoyant parrot]

no

kizuna ate all my cubes

[zenith tundra]

with 120 cubes i got 4 zeppy 4 hiei and 1 akagi

[buoyant parrot]

then when I was trying to pull for loli's it consumed all until to the point that my cubes are almost depleted

im just that unlucky... I've been lucky this past events... That's why I manage to hoard 800 cubes so far until this event came

[zenith tundra]

the limited build felt 🚮 tbh

outside of kizuna didnt get 1 decent ship from it

[buoyant parrot]

it is... except for the Kizuna CA that's all there is to it

and she's not that even great as what they are claiming her to be... She's just okay(usable)

[shy hazel]

are you asking me to get banned

[buoyant parrot]

but you are always up to it anyway

[vague token]

i mean she's better than port kai

[buoyant parrot]

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

i just mad that time cos bug

[buoyant parrot]

besides you love living dangerously... truly a man of culture

[hidden wyvern]

https://i.imgur.com/laPpeZm.jpg

[shy hazel]

dont think theyll chnge pvp

sad to say

[buoyant parrot]

they don't have to change they need to do something about it

maybe merit addition reward

or the shop at least

ANYTHING

[shy hazel]

force ppl to pvp

[buoyant parrot]

[shy hazel]

put bismarck 100k merit xchnge

[buoyant parrot]

bwhahahahahaha

[coral wren]

giving better rewards would do the trick

[buoyant parrot]

THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC!!!

[coral wren]

like, free cubes

or rubies

[shy hazel]

then ppl would quit after 100k

[buoyant parrot]

yeah but seriously just add something to the merit shop would do the trick for now until they have plans to do some major overhauls

[zenith tundra]

i think there will be no change in al pvp system

[buoyant parrot]

well there will be none if we don't say a thing

[zenith tundra]

i agree with that

but not sure what they would get from pvp changes

[buoyant parrot]

hence we have STELLA as our emissary (sacrificial lamb)

[shy hazel]

no pls

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[shy hazel]

i only rage when pvp is bugged

bugged pvp is like

making me eat very cold lunch

i dont like it but ill eat it anyway

after complaining

back to grind

gotta race zack

got has forsaken me

no oil night comm

all cubes

god is dead

[vague token]

rip

[zenith tundra]

i have 8.4k oil but no time to use it

[buoyant parrot]

im done saying something @ #game-feedback

[shy hazel]

i wanna have oil cap when i start to grind sanrui

[buoyant parrot]

damn it columbia please go home now so I could start and focus back on saint louis

is there a drop only ship at Chapter 12???

[finite valve]

the pain of being one of the top dog lel

3

12-2 to 12-4

[buoyant parrot]

omg... not again...

Hiyou, Junyou, Choukai

[zenith tundra]

what did u expect nothing?

[buoyant parrot]

was expecting at least 1

[vague token]

xD

[finite valve]

also just a heads up but w13 got 2

[zenith tundra]

i want w14 with 4sr drops

[finite valve]

4 SR drop in 14-4

[zenith tundra]

that actually sounds fun

[finite valve]

foxes mine 2.0

[buoyant parrot]

that 14-4 sounds great!!!

[zenith tundra]

and all 4 of them weaker then sandy pre kai

[vagrant veldt]

After 13 is Musashi and stuff

[finite valve]

i am just wonder what are they going to do when w14 comes

lvl 130 break or introduce new mechanic to lvl break again?

not to mention the exp to farm all of them to 130 for tech tree

OMFG

10mill + in exp

[zenith tundra]

the problem with 130 is the xp curve is retarded

[finite valve]

yep

3 mill from 100 to 120

so i say it is fair game to say 10 mill +

[vagrant veldt]

Might be introducing better equipment

[finite valve]

lvl advantages is a thing

[vagrant veldt]

460 and fixing some bombers

[zenith tundra]

its 4m+ for 120. at this rate its gonna be 8-9m for 130 total

[finite valve]

even if you have better gear you still take / deal 25% less damage

even with danger lvl you still at -5%

[vagrant veldt]

Doesn't have to increase levels

Make enemies harder to kill

[finite valve]

they already did it with w13

[vagrant veldt]

Then it will be compressing enemy levels

[finite valve]

you are still under lvl vs enemies

[zenith tundra]

w14 is new level cap for sure unless they introduce some kind of alternate leveling

[buoyant parrot]

@vagrant veldt omg I mistook you for this person... Almost gave me a heart attack...

[finite valve]

who in their right mind going to farm 10+ mill exp for a VG boat right?

[zenith tundra]

even for backlines it takes so much for 120

[vagrant veldt]

Who. Why

[buoyant parrot]

number 3...

[zenith tundra]

i spent 10 days farming xp on nagato for it

[finite valve]

i pray that 120 is indeed the max lvl that we have to farm

ain't no one going to have time / will to farm to 130

exp curve is so retarded

[zenith tundra]

i pray it isnt and they just change xp curve

[vagrant veldt]

That's why they are unlikely to increase levels again. Too much grind for the average player

[finite valve]

they are going to increase lvl

there is no way in hell they ain't

unless they remove the lvl advantage mechanic

[zenith tundra]

i don't see why u cannot juat change xp curve and have an easier time instead of sticking with it

[vagrant veldt]

How will new players get through the early chapters without level advantage

[finite valve]

i mean yes that is 1 way of doing it

but who tf know lel

just pray to god that 130 is not a fucking grind fest

@vagrant veldt which is why i said they will increase lvl cap

[coral wren]

Have to make ppl play and grind that exp like in any asian gacha 😄

[finite valve]

we just dk how we going to farm for 130

if i have to farm 10 mill exp for 1 ship ok sure why not

for 200+ unique ships?

HELL FUCKING NO

that is not mentioning sub lvling

[coral wren]

that will be a total bullshit

[finite valve]

can you imagine farming 10 mill for a fucking sub?

120 is hard enough for a sub already

[coral wren]

just pretend subs don't exist lel

[vague token]

oof

[finite valve]

u-47 and the slug are 2 sub i am going to oath

their design seem good

[buoyant parrot]

i want albacore

[coral wren]

no tuna

[buoyant parrot]

jail is nothing

[coral wren]

I checked what else the artist draws and i can tell you he did his best on albacore

[buoyant parrot]

sauce

[zenith tundra]

they ahould just change xp needed to a fixed amount after 120. like u need 500k x each level after lvl 120 or something like that

[finite valve]

who fucking know

[coral wren]

https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3439325

[buoyant parrot]

thanks!

[coral wren]

np, by first glance i wouldn't even imagine it's the same artist who drew her

[buoyant parrot]

ahh I see so the artist is a loli master race.... Yes yes... albacore is master piece

[spice tusk]

question guys

since i dont have akagi yet

does amagi ,nagato and hyuuga kai works for backline?

does their buff stacks?

[shell heron]

you mean does hyuuga kai's FP and Nagato's buff stack?

[spice tusk]

or better run my current setup which is dork amagi and hyugga kai

and yes

do they stack??

[zenith tundra]

namagi hyuuga works fine

[shell heron]

and yes those 2 skills do stack

[zenith tundra]

all buffs stack unless they are commander ones

with commanders u have special rules

[spice tusk]

so replace dork i n pvp right thanks guys

[zenith tundra]

i used namagi hyuuga quite a bit. it can easily beat almost everything. the only comp i had trouble with was namaryuu

[shell heron]

I'm using it now while working on my hiryuu. It works okay against namaryuu

just need to put amagi across of hiryuu

[spice tusk]

and what gun you equip on hyuuga kai? for pvp? 406 mk6 works?

[zenith tundra]

my test were against maxed namaryuu. i havent used it against non maxed ones

mk6

410 always felt inferior for me in pvp

[buoyant parrot]

@spice tusk if you want further explanation on the backline you just mentioned feel free to read it here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BglmSOaD1ec8zc6bKwiItf2OcQueoRNxF3UGzlQnHBU/edit#gid=0

[spice tusk]

thanks for answering guys

[shy hazel]

ppl think pr farm is hard

when thats only literally one,120 ship

[spice tusk]

but pr blueprint farm is hard

[shy hazel]

thats gold anyways not grind

[zenith tundra]

well it still timegates pr badly

2 500 oil and 1 660 gold long commissions.

and 4th one is cubes

[shy hazel]

current one isnt the prob at all

its the next

[spice tusk]

well the next one isnt gonna come soon

and 1 more months before pr ship gonna be new meta in pvp

[zenith tundra]

1st pr is the worst tbh

last is easiest

[shy hazel]

2 months pr use in pvp is like

for rly dedicated ppl

will take me 3 or more prolly

the only hard opponent i see anyways is louis

i dont think nep monarch will be hard opponent on def teams

[zenith tundra]

the hardest opponent is nanoda

[spice tusk]

what is nanoda

[zenith tundra]

nanoda is nanoda

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/9/97/Yukikaze.png

[burnt ice]

how to deal with hiryuu if I hv no amagi

my normal backline is DoY Enty Hood, is this gd enuf?

[zenith tundra]

tbh i have no clue for non meta comps

[red nexus]

I mean they are strong... but enty doy is like 0 synergy

[ionic magnet]

check the tierlist in pins

those comps should atleast have positive winrates against namaryuu

[zenith tundra]

except some don't like nakaga

[ionic magnet]

im testing triple cv rn actually

and its working fine

[zenith tundra]

enty akaga?

[red nexus]

Except you can get doy to fire before enty and have some derp torp bombers for massive vanguard damage

[ionic magnet]

still finding perfect sparring partner tho

akaga hiryuu

[zenith tundra]

that looks interesting

[red nexus]

It might be worth trying to have a warspite slowly chip away at hyriuu with divine marksman

[ionic magnet]

with sirius aurora jun

[zenith tundra]

do u have trouble with anything?

[ionic magnet]

nothing yet but then again i only fought half baked namaryuus so far

non oaths

[zenith tundra]

if u ever find me i can set up namaryuu on defense instead of lusty ibuki

[ionic magnet]

oof ibuki

ill let you know

[zenith tundra]

lvl 63 ibuki with lvl 100 lusty. i'll turn it into pr showcase

izumo monarch hiryuu roon neptune saint louis

[shy hazel]

my monarch is 60 by virtue of dorm alone

[zenith tundra]

my ibuki is lvl 63

i manual her a bit

[burnt ice]

I put DoY cuz i hv helena, enty cuz dmg dealer

normally DoY+helena evapourates 1 enemy backline, but tht never seems to be the case with nagato+amagi+hiryuu

[spice tusk]

question

[red nexus]

Maybe answer

[spice tusk]

im currently running mog kai 110,ayakai 110,andz23110 with ngato amagi and hyuuga kai backline

should i switchout ayakai for yukikaze?

and mz23 with jintsuu?

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't use mogami tbh too

yukikaze jintsuu is a good pair

[spice tusk]

so yukikaze jintsuu an d ayakai?

at least until i get sendai?

[zenith tundra]

juneau is so good tho....

[spice tusk]

isnt juneau just a sacrifice?

[zenith tundra]

that's what she is and she's good for that since ur backlines have way higher chances to carry u then ur vg

[spice tusk]

jintsuukai yukikaze and juneau with pearl tear?

[zenith tundra]

don't use pearl on juneau

it's pretty useless

[spice tusk]

ah ok thenk thks

[true trellis]

Welp just lost a PvP to Hiryuu somehow not procing. Now I'm sad

[ionic magnet]

retire that hiryuu and get a new one

[zenith tundra]

i think he means he lost without opponent hiryuu even proccing

[ionic magnet]

@burnt ice are you using helena with namaryuu? dont think its a good fit cos both nagato and amagi fires before helena's skill

unless youre using 406

[zenith tundra]

because there is no way hiryuu cannot proc unless u just miss it then it's ur fault

[ionic magnet]

yea prolly

[burnt ice]

No I was askng how to deal with nagato+amagi+hiryuu lmao

[zenith tundra]

i hope ui 2.0 has auto battle toggle that works all the time... i love when i logout to check list and then forget to activate auto back

[elder crane]

Namayuu, currently best ways:
Mirror is high% when done right
Daxam also recs Amagi+Hood+Warspite/QE I think
Haven't tested that myself, I'll try it out at some point

And when done right foxes can still win a fair % iirc (not an expert here either)

[shy hazel]

i dont think u should recommend daxams method

cos he oathed and geared to the teeth

tis not for normal players

[elder crane]

Mirror isn't a easy win either yknow

Nothing is, in the sense of needing gears etc.

[shy hazel]

oathing is expensive hey

[zenith tundra]

my best choice is swapping amagi/hiryuu and belfast/juneau

[elder crane]

Also facing namayuu belfast is best swapped out for something else usually

[zenith tundra]

sheffield is retired from pvp for me

[ionic magnet]

foxes can win around 40% of the time yea

maybe its 50 but its closer to 40 from my experience

[shy hazel]

no one is suggesting lately

to use wasda

[elder crane]

WaSDA is fine, just not better really afaik

[zenith tundra]

not using sheffield ever again unless she gets retro and becomes the ws kai of vgs

[elder crane]

She's best for the namayuu mirror for now, unless Aurora can be made to not get quickly killed half the time
Until Louis/Nep gets up and running, probably
Better than bel for sure given the time length of the vanguard fight

[zenith tundra]

i'm not using her.

[lament lichen]

dont really need shelff for the mirror that much

[elder crane]

Don't need Bel for anything though either, on offense
Mirror, and some janky CV teams are so far the only ones that I've ever needed to reset against
(Minus that one weird game where an enemy ykkz 1v4 soloed my team)

So might as well pick the better option of Sheff for vs those teams

[zenith tundra]

imo belfast in a good dps ship that doesn't rely on torp rng to deal dmg

[elder crane]

Amount that lead vanguard deals is pretty limited in the matchups that matter
And sheff doesn't lose all that much dmg compared to Bel iirc
Better to get the more reliable and stronger defensive buff for those, usually

[zenith tundra]

if my vg dies that's fine i don't need vg to win

not playing foxes that rely on vg to win

@shy hazel 67% here how are u doing?

[burnt ice]

but I no amagi :(((((( thats the issue

[zenith tundra]

hms with monarch should be good enough

but it takes time to max monarch

[shy hazel]

i stopped two hours ago

too busy

nevertheless

im finishing this ho in tine anyways

[zenith tundra]

[shy hazel]

i didnt even need to touch cash shop oil

[hot creek]

AA noises > AI music

[zenith tundra]

i stopped listening to al music with nep collab. i usually like nep game music but don't want it in al too

seems like mini patch it is

[buoyant parrot]

AA noises LOL!!!!

this is funny

[blazing scroll]

So far my Portland performs well in namaryuu mirrors

[modern tree]

What aux

[blazing scroll]

Beaver Pearl

[shy hazel]

Yea lol

[modern tree]

Checks out

[shy hazel]

thay aa is so sexy

opiest bgm of the game

[vague token]

lol

[blazing scroll]

People in ingame chat saying sandy retro confirmed

[buoyant parrot]

hahahaha

😂

[zenith tundra]

they should call it BGN not BGM

[shy hazel]

[midnight heron]

damn dis aa bgm is like an alarm juneau christ

[shy hazel]

damn

im only 57%

[vague token]

for what?

[zenith tundra]

roon 2m

[vague token]

ah

nice

[hot creek]

I think im going to use Prinz for Roon grind

in case they give her a retro and she becomes not useless

[burnt ice]

Is prinz really that bad

[zenith tundra]

waste of oil for what she brings

[vague token]

kizuna CA also does damage

xD

and has 30% damage reduction and fire reduction

[zenith tundra]

torp ca are generally not good because they have low dmg output without the mgm+1 and with low torp stat

[sour oasis]

Have ANY collab ship been good (not decent, but good) or provide synergy with non-collab ships?

[zenith tundra]

i think bb kizunai is closest u get to good

[vague token]

CA kizuna is definitely better than most of the CAs

30% damage reduction is no joke

she's portkai with skills

nagato/amagi guns

oh

fire reduction by 3 seconds is good

stacks with extinguisher for memes

49 evade isnt bad at 100 xD

too bad she gets a whopping 4 over 20 more levels lol

im guessing that fire damage is more prominent later

which is why she is t0 on the CN tier list

xD

also evade stat means less when your enemy outlevels you

like ch 13

better to have free 15% reduction all the time

unlike portland

xD

[zenith tundra]

if u care for ehp just use roon

[vague token]

i mean it makes her comparable with portland

obviously roon would be better lol

[blazing scroll]

Portland has also dmg reduction 👀

just 25% to activate

[vague token]

weird, i got a guy with default crew on defense

long island laffey level 1

xD

level 90 and never set defense

what a god

[zenith tundra]

most likely just a meme

hard to believe someone doesn't level up laffey

[vague token]

i mean he probably did and just tossed an extra laffey there

[leaden sequoia]

there are people who only care about waifus, so idk

and it just so happened that Laffey is not their waifu

[zenith tundra]

i don't think u can pass tutorial without leveling up ur starting ship once at least

[shy hazel]

i feel like

grinding nep first before louis

nep is cuter

[vague token]

nep nod it up

[lament lichen]

yeptune

[zenith tundra]

i don't like saint louis appearance at all

[vague token]

i mean she wields the power of juneau, crush all heretics

[leaden sequoia]

welp, time for sanrui skin then

[vague token]

what else do you expect

[leaden sequoia]

would be funny for Jun to be her actual idol

buffs herself every time Jun dies

[vague token]

nep does have a trident

so that's a +

[blazing scroll]

Almost done with the 2mil for Monarch, but gotta wait until everything is unlocked

[zenith tundra]

i'll stop at 75% today on roon. plenty of time to finish it

[shy hazel]

even if i make sanrui she useless anyways

i guess i go nepnext

[shy hazel]

i guess vg will need t0s to come with it

gotta prepare brit t0s

[hybrid tendon]

lul

you are telling me ppl in pvp does not oathed and geared to the teeth?

[ionic magnet]

idk i only see lolis and waifu fleets

dem i actually used up all my charges trying to find an optimized namaryuu

[buoyant parrot]

Insufficient Vespene Gas... Welp gotta chill

[coral wren]

What was everyone’s first opinion on grosse skills?

[jovial sedge]

You need additional pylons

[coral wren]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Friedrich_der_Grosse

[ionic magnet]

broken

[coral wren]

Ws kai level of broken or

It feels like it all comes down to how much dmg each ship barrage has

[ionic magnet]

id say shes right there

random targetting might be a problem

but that sheer damage is scary

plus 10k hp on heavy armor

[charred sable]

@coral wren her skills were... Grosse

[coral wren]

I just remember that noone expcted ws kai to be broken from the first glance because noone knew that her new barrage would have so much dmg to compare to old one

[charred sable]

The upcoming CN/JP meta is essentially FdG/Warspite/Amagi

But it'll be a while before you see that

Georgia will probably replace Amagi, but there'll probably be an even stronger ship before then

cough cough Bismarck

[modern tree]

Fdg is never gonna be a problem on EN because by the time we get pr2 and enough time to get 500 bps, there will probably be new problem ships

So let her be op on paper, it matters not

[shy hazel]

ofc

ijn will be far opier before fdg comes to en

[round dome]

mine was at lv 100 and dev lv 10, and she's already taking half of the mvp away from lv 120 centaur... in black sp

[hybrid tendon]

Yamato Pog

enty with black hair

along with bismarck we would get the entyface backline squad

[buoyant parrot]

and so I rest

[coral wren]

is Entys black hair due to the a long time she didnt wash her hair even tho she can just litterally dip her hair into the ocean to wash it. like wtf

[raw osprey]

[Idiot]

[spice tusk]

belfast id good for pvp?

[hot creek]

good in the fox matchup

she's ok if you don't have any other better options as a tank.

her purpose is to reduce damage of foxes' first airstrike.

[opal jetty]

alright

whats the new meta?

[elder crane]

HMS and Namayuu once PRs are up

[empty sinew]

📌

[hybrid tendon]

and louis

[opal jetty]

full HMS fleet?

[hybrid tendon]

[opal jetty]

alright

[hybrid tendon]

you can always run nakaga

bread and butter

[opal jetty]

what else?

[hybrid tendon]

bismarck

[opal jetty]

o h s h i t

is full HMS still gucci?

[hybrid tendon]

bismarck nagato amagi

or bismarck nagato monarch

whichever

[opal jetty]

god damnit knew I shouldve installed game during amagi event

[elder crane]

Amagi > Nagato

[empty sinew]

oh, as usual the typical en player never reads the 📌 s

[ionic magnet]

we still dont know bisko's skills do we

[elder crane]

Nope

[hybrid tendon]

you can run nagato yamato amagi as well

best backline possible

[elder crane]

If Yama needs flag for skill, 🇫 to Nagato

[hybrid tendon]

nagato is THE flagship

but shes a solo boat

due to military incompetence

and you have to understand that just slot 3 good botes in the backline and we would have a good lineup

like wskai and everything

[elder crane]

Nagato isn't good enough without making use of IJN buff

[opal jetty]

yep I left everything good in JP but my JP account was thanos'd

fuck me

god fuchsjgkahd

[empty sinew]

Yamato: activates Nagato's flagship buff (flagship position not required)

boom

ez clap

[hybrid tendon]

getting amagi before nagato and mikasa

[empty sinew]

problem solved

[hybrid tendon]

make them way less impressive

[elder crane]

Also seems unlikely Mikasa until at least end of next month

boy is she delayed in EN

[opal jetty]

I'm calling it now Axis bias

[hybrid tendon]

Axis best faction

Allies are cucks

[opal jetty]

back in WT, Rasya iz best faction))))))))

so that means double shifts in fox mines

is getting my JP thanos'd my fault for being a total lucknugget in that game? 🤔

can anyone tell me on how to commit die

[empty sinew]

[opal jetty]

oh yeah btw

seems like HMS fleet is still alright...

how 2 build HMS? 🤔

gentlemen its time to commit mass colonization

I dont have amagi

get fucked then?

ah I see

knew it

oh boy thats around 3m exp

[hybrid tendon]

next HMS would be monarch duke wskai?

QE is too bleh to join

[opal jetty]

and for frontline?

[hybrid tendon]

maybe I'd go monarch duke hood

I would sacrifice that 15%

for a more useful boat

well monarch duke hood would be ultra damage on first barrage

[opal jetty]

does this ensure mass colonization of greater India?

[hybrid tendon]

with shells? holy shit

I'd have duke equip a faster gun tho

for the bonus

[opal jetty]

I may be half serious about this since all I do is feed the log in, feed boats, log out

[hybrid tendon]

🤔

[opal jetty]

also how come everyone in PvP has like level 80+ ships what the fuck happened while I was taking a 3 month long break?

[elder crane]

...people had that half a year ago

[opal jetty]

well guess I dont play much

[hybrid tendon]

which would you use in hms frontline assuming running monarch hood duke @elder crane

🤔

[opal jetty]

I'm kinda playing other games atm but yeah I think its about time to make Monarch appear in the boatlist
and of course
commit taking over India

[elder crane]

Usual stall, or maybe a suicide

[hybrid tendon]

ykkz juneau

then

🤔

maybe saint louis

[elder crane]

I'm thinking Louis/jun/ykkz or Jint/Aurora/ykkz or something of that sort, if you don't have QE in fleet

[buoyant parrot]

[hybrid tendon]

QE's 15% is not worth it

since shes meh otherwise

[elder crane]

with QE, Neptune/Jun/Something
Bel or Sheff maybe

[hybrid tendon]

I'm still getting my sheff up

[opal jetty]

hmm thats a lot of effort for dick growing and grabbing special botes

[hybrid tendon]

seeing her in a few lineups

[opal jetty]

seems worth it

also isnt Duke like event only or smth?

or is there another thing I missed?

[elder crane]

Yep, Dork is event-only
She isn't that great for PvP though

[opal jetty]

ah thought so

[elder crane]

Main gun shelling is too unreliable, and she really doesn't offer much even on that front

[opal jetty]

also whats a HooLooVoo?

[buoyant parrot]

I'd rather use QE over DoY

[hybrid tendon]

well

with shells

the 140% first barrage

of dork

is deadly

and pvp is like 2 barrage

anyway

shells have a lot of HIT

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opal jetty]

oh by the way

[hybrid tendon]

and if you are hit with that shit

you are dead

[opal jetty]

I wanna ask something

[empty sinew]

that's a big if

[opal jetty]

why isnt there a game mod that plays an earrape version of battotai everytime Nagato/Amagi/Akaga kills something?

[empty sinew]

just play it manually

lul

[hybrid tendon]

well I'd do some testing once my monarch is done

i dislike using QE

coz her art looks bleh

[modern tree]

Wow people actually interested in HMS, what happened

[wicked rivet]

monarch

[modern tree]

Regardless, your ideal team will end up being Juneau Belfast Nep, QE Monarch Hood

Ykkz is unlikely to be necessary because of how fast the barrages will kill

Can't play it without Monarch, can use Sheffield until Nep is operational

[wicked rivet]

even with monarch, would HMS still beat Namagarch comps?

hood is meh and QE is useless besides the boost

[dusk bridge]

That's why you pray we get centaur soon, she pretty much takes QEs spot in HMS

[modern tree]

Replacing QE is incredibly stupid unless your vg doesn't have a single HMS ship

Monarch Hood QE should be more than capable to win games vs Namagi

Actually, replacing QE for Centaur with 2 barrage boats is incredibly stupid period

You will never time Centaur launch to be useful

And even if you did, 10 is less than 15

Or in most probable case of Centaur buff lasting till second barrages, 10 is less than 30, disregarding other stats boosted

Only way you fit in Centaur is ditching Hood and I am not sure if you can afford that

[wicked rivet]

Ditch hood and replace her with amagi

Ditch QE and replace her with nagato

3 barrage BBs = ez win

[modern tree]

Run a shitty ijn vg with ykkz to enable Amagi and lose because your vg died too fast

Actually, that's harsh, maybe Ibuki is fine, but I would not hold my breath

[wicked rivet]

Your vg can't die if they kill the other vg first

[modern tree]

They won't cuz vgs barely touch each other and your main fleet is 3 bb meme

[wicked rivet]

Could still beat HMS

[modern tree]

I somehow doubt that, but arguing atm is pointless

[dusk bridge]

Yeah you're right, you don't use any HMS frontline ships in the centaur comp

You run this

But that comp is pretty far away for us

[modern tree]

Okay but I don't care about weeb servers

Neither does the person asking about how to run HMS on EN

[dusk bridge]

Well didn't really see the context, but you're suggesting nep who is useless until dev30

Which won't happen for a other 2 months maybe

[modern tree]

Nep doesn't get any health, skills or evasion from her dev. Sure she won't deal amazing damage, but neither does ykkz or Juneau, and yet here we are

Besides, I did say Sheff is fine a line after that

[charred sable]

This is the gun I want one copy of for Saint Louis right?

[wicked rivet]

ye

i think so

thats a good CA gun

pretty sure it is

but either is fine

[modern tree]

Mle is better, but this is easier to get

[elder crane]

Louis really needs high devlv to shine though
A major part of her is her dmg output, which needs near-max devlv
And by that time, you're nearly (iirc 1-in-a-million or better) guaranteed a mle

[wicked rivet]

30

[blazing scroll]

I believed somebody said 25 for sanrui is where she can starts to shine

[wicked rivet]

she might be 25

i know there are a few usable at 25 but most not till 30

[coral wren]

how far of a rank difference is needed to get more than the base amount for rank score?

[wicked rivet]

35 points

you get +1 for every 35 points ahead that they are

[coral wren]

ty

[vague token]

i mean

dev 30 only gets her barrage and 15% efficiency

she can be a better portland under that

she still has rank 1 barrage from dev 10

and you can cap her skill anyways, which easily pushes her damage past most cas for her durability

[red nexus]

Didn't guide man say 🥖 is the only PR that is viable on DL 20+ whereas the others practically need 30?

[vague token]

well, viable =/= optimal

saint louis wont be optimal without all her damage

but she'll still work as a fancy portland

so it's more of like, use your own judgement

not like anyone has any pr at 110 atm anyways

xD

[modern tree]

you think?

[vague token]

either way ill just be using sheffield until she comes online

cause she has a gun

or maybe ill try elegant kizuna for kicks

[red nexus]

Kizuna AI... yikes

[wicked rivet]

DD kizuna for instant win

[vague token]

i have dd kizuna skills maxed

for when i do my meme debuff team

fiji is at 110 and skill maxed

i gotta get tennessee to 110 though

literally the Im a genius, OH NO team

as kizuna buffs entire enemy team

xD

i swear if tennessee gets a retro imma run that team

plz yostar give us retros for ten/cali

[elder crane]

Well, 16/25 is my highest PR equip right now
Too bad it's the not-so-useful AP gun
11 on staag is my highest useful one :P

[vague token]

[vagrant veldt]

Give me the ap gun prints if you're not going to use it (if only it was possible)

[elder crane]

It's the BB AP one, whoops, thought I specified

[vagrant veldt]

I know

Why don't you like this gun

It's gold and looks good

[vague token]

extra shiny for your fleet power

[vagrant veldt]

And all of its damage can be buffed

[elder crane]

I think it's cause I ran the special project for it a few times twice, at least partially
Well, it's not very useful for PvP
Defs some niche applications for Bossing/EX

[vagrant veldt]

Not that BBs are the main damage for EX now but it was really good for the 20s burst

[elder crane]

KizAI was all BB damage

She was too tanky to get bursted by torps

But I suppose she was light, so not very useful

[vagrant veldt]

Usually ayanami core vanguard with BB filling the rest of the damage

[elder crane]

Torps took <1/2 her HP for a full 6 salvos with Nagato/Jint/Aya/Sendai(worse with ykkz), so you needed to wait 3 reloads to get them to work, and you had to find spaces to get torps in without exploding
But Nagato/Dork/Helena with any third BB with decent RNG took her down in 3 salvos, with better RNG could've been 2 I think (or you could drop the third BB and still do it in 3 probably), which is both faster (BB guns reload faster than torps) and safer (hang back and toggle auto, or at least not be in her face)

I think this EX had exceptionally tanky boss though
ISSS was much more easily torpbursted

or maybe it's cause boss was light armor which torps are worse against

[vagrant veldt]

If just clearing ex as the goal then that would be fine

Kizuna ex was still using ayanami as core burst

Supports are Helena with usually jintsuu or sometimes level 1 avrora

And Duke of York

[elder crane]

idk, I got 3rd on Avrora with the BB team instead, with much room for improvement on better RNG as I mentioned
And I never managed to get aya to take more than 10% of her HP off per salvo

Isn't Nagato better than Dork in that role?

Oh wtf nvm for some reason I though she boosted torps

[vagrant veldt]

Nagato buff accuracy

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

AI did have an annoying amount of eva, but for aya it wasn't really an issue

Ehh, with the timesave from reload buff, and her own barrage nuke, I'm not entirely convinced Dork is for sure better

[vagrant veldt]

Debuffs multiply each other

The 20s burst is enough

[elder crane]

I think Dork's and Helena's stack additively, since both are damage taken debuffs
Multiplicative with self-damage buffs

I'm not sure I see that working, I barely got AI below 50% on 20s first torp reload burst, even on the best RNG

[vagrant veldt]

Debuffs multipy each other

For the ayanami centre fleet, the extra damage for the around 20s kill is from Jean Bart

[elder crane]

We don't have JB, sooooo

[vagrant veldt]

Your triple BB comp is enough for EN then

[shy hazel]

@zenith tundra

81% now

[zenith tundra]

84 me

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

how much oil left?

[ionic magnet]

who will win place your bets now

[zenith tundra]

i bet on stella tbh

i have 8975 oil

[ionic magnet]

oh

its prolly enough tho

[zenith tundra]

way more then enough. im just at work

[ionic magnet]

stella too i think but she can play at work

[zenith tundra]

as long as i finish before next unlocks is fine

[ionic magnet]

ah right theres the unlock timer

gonna be a tie then

[shy hazel]

i have fewer oil but eitherway its gonna finish before timer

i still have oil mail though

[wicked rivet]

just did a match while DoY still had the confetti gun

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

celebrate!

xD

[wicked rivet]

🎊

[shy hazel]

when i see confetti gun im like

they celebrating for my free win

[wicked rivet]

i got smushed the first time and was like, dafuq this should be an ez win

[vague token]

lol

[wicked rivet]

then scrolled right and realized why she wasnt doing anything

[shy hazel]

time to reset

[wicked rivet]

monarch is popular in my list

and also redhead submarine

[vague token]

xD

[wicked rivet]

Xd

[vague token]

reset is sloooow

[coral wren]

We still need white shells tho

[wicked rivet]

tru

[zenith tundra]

i got a +1 this reset... worse then weekends

[vague token]

oof

[arctic imp]

why so many Juneau and Nakaga?
😐

♋

[vague token]

[raw osprey]

true man of culture play https://gyazo.com/7dd1f2f89e0cf7efbb3af85ec2b8150e

[hidden wyvern]

https://i.imgur.com/laPpeZm.jpg

[arctic imp]

tahst worse than nakaga

[raw osprey]

thats why

[arctic imp]

I could do it also but

no skill involved

plus I dont have nagato mlb

[raw osprey]

[arctic imp]

im not a fan of nogato

[raw osprey]

How can you not love this....? https://gyazo.com/5a6c9de6093a4b03f7a1aaea08455a06

[arctic imp]

meh

she represents the IJN master meta

which im not a fan of

[raw osprey]

[charred sable]

No r1 for me this round

[vague token]

oof

[shy hazel]

who needs skill in al pvp

if you mean ingame character skill yea

but player skill not really

[zenith tundra]

95% almost done

[elder crane]

Sheff almost 200 now
And I'll finally be able to fully focus on Sanrui

[shy hazel]

97

i think ill do the last percent aft reset

[coral wren]

Hey everybody. I am a none meta player. Are u guys impressed

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

we dont have a bot for non meta sorry

;)

[zenith tundra]

@shy hazel done

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

woo!

[ionic magnet]

[zenith tundra]

now i'm bored at work

3hrs not a single person used 1 attempt

[vague token]

i had to use a reroll, i got a +2 a bit ago

otherwise it's pretty ugh

[zenith tundra]

i need to stop doing my attempts so late

been doing them always last 10min

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

@zenith tundra 100 now too

u makin me woke

[coral wren]

@raw osprey That's literally the cookie cutter build everyone runs, which includes me

I've seen that exact build 20 times

[shy hazel]

what to do now

[zenith tundra]

bis team after all

im waiting for izumo farm

and ofc roon maxing as far as a can go for now

[shy hazel]

so

who are good lb0 hns other than

XD girl

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

ya that one

i need one more

[vague token]

dunno

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

u can level up belchan