pvp

[cerulean estuary]

all enemies with BURN effect , which last until the game ended

[vague token]

amagi fire extinguisher + hiei chan should be immune to fire for however long the buff lasts

if it's additive

[zenith tundra]

just replace all non character ships with fusou production and u have worse event ever

[versed atlas]

rip oil

[vague token]

yeah actually does amagi + fire extinguisher + hiei chan stack additive?

[zenith tundra]

i'm waiting for the 50% boost after pr release

[vague token]

cause that would be like immunity for 8 seconds

33 + 10 + 60

[shy hazel]

din really start event yet

[vague token]

id science it but i have 0 chibis

[shy hazel]

how u do sp4

1~1?

[zenith tundra]

dmg reduction is never addictive

[shy hazel]

lemme copy fleets

[vague token]

yeah, maybe normal damage

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

but fire is like

weird

doesnt even get reduced by pvp rules

who knows what the rules are for fire damage reduction

xD

[zenith tundra]

if dmg would be additive u would end up with immunities which i don't think is the case

[vague token]

ill test it if i ever get her i guess

it's the only damage reduction that can even approach 100 anyways

like the rest all are like 15 at most

besides like

setting up a focus defense to be lower than sheffield

and hoping both proc?

xD

[zenith tundra]

if i could keep my lvl 1 hiei for 20 sec i could try lol

[vague token]

xD

cause yeah at max it is 60% fire reduc

33 from extinguisher

then 10 from amagi

so gotta find out

[cerulean estuary]

i almost forgot pvp , dem always less 1 point to get +1

too close yet so far

[vague token]

i blew through 9 matches for gensui already so im safe

[elder crane]

Boosts fire damage on enemy main from 5-6k/BB used to 8-9k for her I suppose

[zenith tundra]

what kind of sense does it make that a ship takes same amount of burn damage with or without hiei skill...

[elder crane]

Maybe even more

[zenith tundra]

i proc hiei skill burn dmg 393 hiei skill wears off still 393

[elder crane]

Huh, maybe it only affects fire set when her skill is active?

[zenith tundra]

the shells were after skill

[elder crane]

so it keeps reduction past, but doesn't gain reduction into

do fires set before skill get reduced?

[zenith tundra]

this wasd uses slow weapons

so it's always after 20 sec

[elder crane]

393 is low for BB main gun fires

very low

[zenith tundra]

but is with hiei skill

and amagi

[elder crane]

Yeah, so what I mean is maybe her skill affects fires set when it's active

[zenith tundra]

i don't understand why after

[elder crane]

so a fire already burning when her skill activates doesn't get reduction, but fires set during her skill activation get reduction past when her skill is active, out to their full duration

or maybe she gets best of both worlds

[zenith tundra]

need to find a faster comp i guess

[elder crane]

that is, the trigger for her skill activating isn't a fire damage tick, but the actual setting of the fire

[zenith tundra]

want to check fire dmg without hiei

605 rn without hiei skill

[vague token]

X_x

fire rules are whack yo

[zenith tundra]

that's a 35% dmg reduction from a 30% skill lol

[elder crane]

additive stacking maybe?

[modern tree]

nothing makes sense

[vague token]

so amagi + extinguisher + hiei = 8 second window of fire immunity

huzzah

maybe

[zenith tundra]

let me switch to fe on backline and see with hiei

[elder crane]

.55/.85 is about .65, .647
So would make sense if Hiei and Amagi additively stacked

So then your Hiei's 30% looks like 35%

[vague token]

oh wait it's only 20% on extinguisher, but still that's what, like 90% fire reduction if additive

[elder crane]

Hiei maxed is 60%, no?

[vague token]

60 + 20 + 10

[zenith tundra]

249 with fe hiei amagi

[elder crane]

30% is not skilled

[vague token]

oh wait that's right the wiki has the wrong amount

so 95

60 + 25 + 10

xD

[elder crane]

Okay, what are the fire values you have right now, @zenith tundra?

ugh, taking a +8

[zenith tundra]

with hiei amagi and fe is 249

[elder crane]

5 refreshes gave no people less than 35 pts below me

[ionic magnet]

ok aotn streak still safe even with 8 missed matches

[elder crane]

rank 1 temporarily still achieved with 5 missed
Blessed midnight rushes

[ionic magnet]

yea this reset and the next one should be the best time to push for casuals like us

[elder crane]

What's the numbers base, Zack?

[cerulean estuary]

at what cost?

[elder crane]

249 with all 3
605? with, just amagi?

[zenith tundra]

605 with only amagi 465 with fe amagi 393 with amagi hiei 249 with hiei amagi fe

[vague token]

605 means it should be base 672

give or take

[zenith tundra]

this are the values i found

[elder crane]

...712, no?

Amagi is 15% reduction

[zenith tundra]

let me try amagi out

[elder crane]

605/.85=712 or so

[vague token]

oh 15

thought she was 10 for some reason

yeah that sounds like additive

465 / .65 is 715

give or take

so really close

[elder crane]

Yep, additive stacking

[vague token]

and 249 / .35 is 711

[elder crane]

.85 with amagi, .65 with amagi FE, .55 amagi Hiei, .35 all 3

[vague token]

aka pretty much perfect

[elder crane]

so FE is 20% damage reduction then

[zenith tundra]

it says 25% in game isn't it?

for fe

[elder crane]

....

[cerulean estuary]

maybe there a fire dps / reduction cap?

[elder crane]

Fires from the most fire-happy team do about 1/3 of the total damage taken on the main fleet

based on my previous testing

[vague token]

well, guess we gotta max hiei chan's skill

[zenith tundra]

i didn't know abut the bad translation

[vague token]

either way, 249 / .35 is accurate

to .15, .2, and .3

[zenith tundra]

i'm getting burned for 770 without anything

[vague token]

oh

[zenith tundra]

tested 3 times

[elder crane]

Ummmm,

[vague token]

ok now im confused

[zenith tundra]

on both baga and hyuuga without anything

for fire reduction

[elder crane]

Sure the fire was set by the same ship?

[vague token]

this is why we need a real testing ground

xD

[elder crane]

Maybe test vs a 1-BB only team, if possible

Ahh, AL and wonky mechanics

[zenith tundra]

maybe amakaga might work but impossible to get lvl 1 hiei to live long enough

[trim horizon]

http://prntscr.com/nhrw3d

[elder crane]

Rank 32 7 left

Well score gradient is really large right now I suppose

[vague token]

wait what server is that lol

[trim horizon]

Sandy

[vague token]

im at 2347 and im 57th

oh ok

i was like nani

[trim horizon]

even missed 4 charges

[elder crane]

Ahh, good ole Sandy
Or basically anything not Avrora

2344 gets you 70-73 on avrora when I last refreshed my list a few mins ago

[zenith tundra]

amakaga no reduction 734

577 with amagi

[elder crane]

....

That's consistent with earlier

and consistent with wonky mechanics

Why the F does the other numbers work out nicely then

Oh wait nvm

[zenith tundra]

441 but maybe barrage fire so retrying with fe amagi

[elder crane]

ofc amagi debuff

amagi debuffs FP by 9%

[zenith tundra]

lol

[vague token]

oh

true

[zenith tundra]

441 with amagi fe

[elder crane]

So everything works out nicely again

[zenith tundra]

additive with amagi making fire useless because of debuff lol

?

[vague token]

i mean, that's an enemy debuff so it doesnt factor into the reduction equation

but yeah amagi really hurts fire on backline

[elder crane]

Yeah, it's exactly the number expected for amagi debuff

[vague token]

cause she reduces the fire base value

and then reduces that value by 10%

[elder crane]

so the 9% FP loss perfectly accounts for the wonky numbers

[zenith tundra]

it's additive stacking then?

[elder crane]

Yep

All % fire damage reduction stacks additively

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

60+20+15=5%?

[vague token]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

like 0 dmg from fires lol

[elder crane]

Might be a lower cap, will need testing

[vague token]

ill max hiei's skill if i build her

x_x

[zenith tundra]

time to level up my hiei and skill too

[vague token]

that might be useful for pve

do all the level 3 bbs

[elder crane]

So, Hiei activates on fires set before her skill comes online?

[zenith tundra]

i need a namagi to test that

let's see if i find 1

[elder crane]

Confirmed that Hiei skill still continues to affect fires set when her skill is active, even if skill is no longer active?

[zenith tundra]

yeah same fire dmg after 30 secs

in battle time

the timer was 4:26 and still same amount

i had a namagi in my list

with nagato top... what???

[elder crane]

Yeah, I've seen that one too

[elder crane]

Forgot about restriction probably

I did that a few times back when playing on CN

[vague token]

uh what

xD

[elder crane]

in my defense I couldn't read the skill in-client

[zenith tundra]

357 nagato burn after hiei skill. let's see if i can see 1 before that

[elder crane]

In terms of not placing Nagato in flag then :pikachusurprise: when her skill doesn't work

or, more exactly, surprised when everything suddenly does less damage

[zenith tundra]

581 burn damage pre and post skill

[elder crane]

Ah, so only on fires set during her skill then, sadly

[zenith tundra]

it only affects fires set in the time frame i guess

[elder crane]

Which means it's too late vs 381? or just in time

[zenith tundra]

let me check on my nagato

without hsfcr seems like last salvo landing is past 20 sec

[vague token]

wait but what about fire refreshes

[elder crane]

Write a summary then, and try to get it pinned
Or get cyaneko to add it to his pin

[vague token]

does it start working if a theoretical hit reprocs a fire

X_x

fire why must you be like this

[zenith tundra]

good luck testing that @vague token

[elder crane]

Refresh as far as I can tell doesn't overwrite damage, even if it would do more

[vague token]

like if you proc full fire power you dont get a better fire?

(not that bbs have full fire power)

[elder crane]

I had a Nagato barrage fire tick for same damage for 9 ticks I think

[vague token]

nagato cant buff herself after the fact though

ugh what a pain

xD

[elder crane]

No, what I mean is it was clearly refreshed by another main gun shot

[vague token]

oh ok

[elder crane]

and main gun shot fires do more damage

[zenith tundra]

if it works like that then it most likely won't affect refreshes because the damage doesn't change

[vague token]

that's a yikes

[elder crane]

so fire damage is not overwritten by same-class guns upon refresh, even if would do more damage

Let me pull out my notes to check

[vague token]

so then it probably wouldnt trigger hiei

since it doesnt count as a fire starting

under her buff

it just sets the timer back to 15 or w/e

or 9 for extinguisher

what a pain lol

[zenith tundra]

with hsfcr on nagato all shells land before 20 sec

[elder crane]

I take that back, it was not so clear-cut

My notes instead say, for the most interesting cases:

Fire damage of 689 ticked at least 9 times, even with a fire-starter in enemy team that did 725
Same situation again, 10 ticks
Same situation again, 11 ticks
As far as I can tell, anything that is clearly a refresh ticks for same damage
0 Cases where a fire damage ever changed to something else before burning at least 5 ticks

Possibly luck still though, though that is low % given sample size

Wait, impossible for a ship to refresh own fire, no?
Then it's confirmed I think

[zenith tundra]

how much could u get the cd down i wonder

[elder crane]

Surely not below 15s+volley time (2-3 s?) for a HE gun

So if running Hyuuga for fires, you want her to fire first whenever possible, maybe

Cause if someone else sets lower damage fire first, Hyuuga can't set her own higher damage fires

And Nagato barrage maybe the biggest fire cockblock if her barrage fires count as BB fires

[zenith tundra]

with 2 maxed autoloaders and nagato buff u can get amagi to 13.4s on 381

nagato buff affects equip too right?

or not

[elder crane]

It should

[zenith tundra]

then it should be right

u get llike 258 reload

[elder crane]

What is it w/o the two autoloaders?

[zenith tundra]

174 with only nagato buff

70x1.2 is 84 extra

[elder crane]

I mean, what is her CD on firing?

[zenith tundra]

i don't have 2 auto maxed

i have a sheet for reload on guns

and dmg

[elder crane]

Well, seems like it could be low enough to refresh her own fires

Huh, then in my case could have been the original firestarter refreshing and never did a higher dmg firestarter refresh a lower dmg one
Though with the sample size, that's unlikely

[cerulean estuary]

noob question here regarding sp black

do i need / requirements is less than 8 ships total?

[zenith tundra]

with 410 is 14.96 cd without extra delays

[modern tree]

just retreat your mob fleet before killing boss, lmaooo

[elder crane]

So, in summary, we have found:
Fire damage % modifiers seem to stack additively
Hiei-chan's skill only triggers on fires set when her skill is active, but continues to affect those fires out to their full duration
(Likely all other similar effects work the same way, but all other ones are permanent)
Fires when refreshed by same-class guns do not change in damage, even if it would increase the fire damage dealt

[zenith tundra]

it would be interesting to see if refreshed fires affected by hiei skill still thick the same

[elder crane]

@balmy torrent might want to add the above info to your pinned post

And maybe we should contact wiki people to add it to wiki?

Oh man, and I did the 7 ship clear normally too
Forgot about that retreat trick

[vague token]

i feel stupid for doing a 3 clear and 4 boss

i didnt know you could retreat

xD

and i consciously made sure to remove subs too cause i wasnt sure if they counted

[elder crane]

I forgot about subs, and didn't get the star client-side
Then got the star after relog, so apparently it worked server-side

[vague token]

i guess there are no rules

xD

[zenith tundra]

that bug was in before subs. i recall people in wc needed to relog for the <ships to count in ex map

[vague token]

fires burned the rules' house down

[zenith tundra]

and subs definitely don't count cause i had 3 of them too and still got it

[vague token]

reeeee

[zenith tundra]

[vague token]

[cosmic iron]

can the random word generator be equipped on CVs?

since it buffs accuracy

[vague token]

no idea

[halcyon hill]

It can

Should the generator replace the steam cat?

Losing out on the 100 avi sounds bad

[zenith tundra]

u would use it for the evasion mainly instead of badge but it's not as good

[buoyant parrot]

I need more Fakkyuu so I can see my screen salvoing Fakkyuu's

I'm happy with just Fakkyu's and the Glowing Stick... That's all I need :D

[vague token]

lol

[charred sable]

Hmm, if JP gets both Bismark and Friedrich der Grosse, will an Ironblood backline become the new meta? (Bismark, Friedrich der Grosse, Graf Zeppelin)?

Graf Zeppelin being questionable

[vagrant veldt]

look at QE

[charred sable]

actually, might end up being IJN still with Azuma being thrown into the mix

[zenith tundra]

was bismark announced?

[vagrant veldt]

buffing 2-3 monster ships makes her worthwhile

[charred sable]

Bismark is speculated to be the mystery ship

[zenith tundra]

so no

[charred sable]

if she was though, she'd definitely be UR, along with FdG

[vagrant veldt]

at most retrofit into rainbow rarity

[charred sable]

but Azuma is already UR, and Nagato + Amagi are pretty high tier

Im not sure if Azuma would replace Amagi or replace Hiryuu Retrofit. Probably Hiryuu

[vagrant veldt]

Azuma is vanguard

[charred sable]

oh, I thought "Large Cruiser" was backine

[vagrant veldt]

you have to keep Amagi and Nagato, they stack buffs

[zenith tundra]

azuma is like pr1 ca that just takes too much to get

[vague token]

fdg will be hilarious though

with like

23k hp

not including pearl/juneau

[charred sable]

These were alternatively called "large cruisers", "super cruisers", "unrestricted cruisers", and even "battlecruisers", with the terminology still being debated today.
^ made me think "Large Cruiser" would be equivalent to BBs

[vague token]

2.32 pvp multiplier to the base of like 10k xD

[charred sable]

Thanks Google Translate

[vague token]

o.O

[random vault]

in chinese her name is literally that

rofl

[vague token]

oh god

[random vault]

black sp seems like an interesting farmquit map, but ill be damned since i gotta farm enough points first

[vague token]

wait, does one of the bomber skins drop fakkyus?

[random vault]

iirc fakyuu is a shelling skin

[vague token]

maybe they shopped this image then

[odd schooner]

Man, the word bb shells are upside down then when shot by the enemy

[vague token]

cause it shows hiryuu dropping fakkyus with a plane skin

[random vault]

report it as a bug

the upside down i mean

[halcyon hill]

I think there is a fakkyu bomb

[odd schooner]

Divebomber

[vague token]

owo

[random vault]

o

[vague token]

perfect for sara

[halcyon hill]

An F bomb

[vague token]

2x dive bomber slots? extra fakkyu

[halcyon hill]

[vague token]

glorious

[odd schooner]

Torpedo is hai domo iirc

Ah no

Strangely anniv ai dive is guilty

[vague token]

ok

[odd schooner]

Fighter mini ai is fakkyu

Wtf

Let me check all planes

[ionic magnet]

yea i need more fighter mini ai

[lament lichen]

oh wait what

[vague token]

ok

[hazy rain]

why do people do this?

[lament lichen]

i got 3 sets of mini ai

[hazy rain]

rush to top place

[lament lichen]

trying to get the fakkyuu shells

[hazy rain]

set weak fleet to give out free points to everyone

[vague token]

what's wrong with that

[ionic magnet]

why not

[hazy rain]

everything

[vague token]

there are no rules

xD

[hazy rain]

I want to stress out for sandbagging at last second

[ionic magnet]

theres two kinds of players

[vague token]

just look at fire mechanics

they burned all the rules

[random vault]

i mean if u wanna give free wins

at least give free exp too

[lament lichen]

doesnt really matter in the end

[random vault]

my 110 unequipped fleet

[lament lichen]

people get to do what they want anyways

[vague token]

we are all truly free

[random vault]

is anyone rushing bb ai skill levelling atm

[vague token]

im leveling kizuna beam

because the game doesnt say the buff chance

[random vault]

i wanna see how its barrage develop

[vague token]

if only the beam was like the boss beam

[random vault]

cause i cant fucking get her after 200+ cubes reeeee

[vague token]

and did damage too

[buoyant parrot]

next on my project is BB Ai... Just finishing up my Lv70 BB Fleet skills for Monarch grinding

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/DkY2u/f8b0252e3f.png gensui without rushing lul

[vague token]

lul

[charred sable]

Ahhhhhhhhh

[meager aspen]

Juneau is good tho?

Gotta mlb my nanoda

[charred sable]

Good enough

[ionic magnet]

rip fakkyu shells on def are inverted

🚮

[lament lichen]

all the kizuna ai skins do it flipped

[charred sable]

the ribbon torpedoes flipped look like dildos with pink balls

[zenith tundra]

did the gave cubes to everyone not just ppl that partecipate in the ar camera thing?

[charred sable]

did they post all the AR pics? Cause I definitely want to see mine online somewhere xD

[zenith tundra]

i dunno but got 30 cubes for free for doing nothing

[trim horizon]

got 15 cubes, did not send any AR pic

oh, 30 total

[hot creek]

only got 15 feelsbadman

also my night commisions aren't appearing

[zenith tundra]

u got 15 now and 15 some time ago

u can relog to make them appearing

[shy hazel]

famines virgin rounds score is way too high

kamita is one score higher though

both prolly 10/10

[hot creek]

i relogged and even restarted my emulator, rip night comms

[zenith tundra]

wow

u could report it as a bug

[hot creek]

maybe they didn't appear cause i was fuel capped

but that doesnt make sense

[zenith tundra]

yeah it doesn't

i was at 18k oil yesterday and still got them

[hot creek]

game doesn't let you even send out fuel comms if you're at hard cap though

[zenith tundra]

wait hard cap?

[hot creek]

around 25k

[zenith tundra]

aren't u farming?

[hot creek]

i can't even do comms for chips unless i spend fuel lol

no ive been lazy

[zenith tundra]

[vague token]

tsk

[hot creek]

doing the bare minimum

[vague token]

lazy

xD

[hot creek]

i wanted to save 35k so i can just burn it all when PR comes out

but i guess thats not happening lol

[vague token]

i mean there's what, 10k in shop

or was it 5k

[zenith tundra]

5k

[vague token]

i forget

kk

[zenith tundra]

i somehow managed to burn 14k+ oil from when the event started

[hot creek]

i guess ill just wait til PR and the x2 bonus

[zenith tundra]

farming kizuma tho. those 30 pr bps wont farm themselves

[hot creek]

oh yeah huh

yeah, still working on clearing SP4 lol

[zenith tundra]

i just got 10k pts

[hot creek]

who're you using to farm

[zenith tundra]

pvp team lol

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

i used amagi juneau till amagi hit 2.3m and now using hyuuga junueau for mobs and hiryuu belfast yukikaze for boss

[hot creek]

man, if Bismarck is really coming next month I fear for IJN lol

[vague token]

depends on if they make her amagi/ws kai busted

[zenith tundra]

namagi is still strong in ws kai meta

[vague token]

yeah, with ws kai

xD

[zenith tundra]

don't think it will change much

[vague token]

na it'll be ws kai, bismarck, amagi

who needs carriers

hiryuu kai for trolling ws kai is an option

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu is more broken then amagi

[vague token]

eh, i think the total hp saved from amagi's debuff plus the hp's worth of damage dealt is probably higher than non-kai hiryuu

(and the fire reduction and evade)

[zenith tundra]

i don't see ws kai nor hiryuu kai tho

if u mean en

if u mean jp then it must be fdg ws kai bismark

[vague token]

fdg should be pretty hilarious with that total EHP

toss a beaver on there

2.32 pvp multiplier

xD

or washing machine i guess

[zenith tundra]

the only thing i see a problem with fdg is her barrage being much better flagship but then she can't tank ws kai

[vague token]

yeah

[vague token]

[hazy rain]

will beating this smug give me negative points?

what is the maximum difference to get a +10?

[ionic magnet]

thats a +9

[hazy rain]

maximum*

[ionic magnet]

should be higher pts than you

[hazy rain]

yikes

no wonder the top of the ranks kept falling down

[ionic magnet]

yep

[hazy rain]

so even this dude may be a +9?

[ionic magnet]

yes +9 for sure

i dont know if same score gives +9 or 10 tho

[hazy rain]

[ionic magnet]

never happened to me so w/e

[hazy rain]

how do you secure first place then?

[ionic magnet]

you stay at 5/10 or more charges always

aka sandbagging

[hazy rain]

yeah but at some point you have to use them

meaning today

[ionic magnet]

yep you only use charges when you're sure (or almost sure) that youre gonna get bonus pts

[hazy rain]

so then my "+50 if holding 5 charges" should be more like +48 xd

[ionic magnet]

at higher ranks yea

[hazy rain]

and that's assuming the use of refreshes

[ionic magnet]

sometimes you will eat +8s even if youre unlucky

[hazy rain]

how often do refreshes refresh?

[ionic magnet]

once a day

[hazy rain]

[ionic magnet]

5 total a day

[hazy rain]

I wanted to secure the 2500 reward

but like ending at top score doesn't mean anything at all besides a sense of pride and accomplishment right? xd

[ionic magnet]

well your best bet is to rush fights just after resets

and yea no real rewards for end season top ranks

[hazy rain]

(ofc I will keep doing it )

[ionic magnet]

we got 1 day remaining right?

[hazy rain]

half the top10 are lolicons Krappa

[magic drum]

[buoyant parrot]

I like how everyone is going to jail. I can finally rule PvP

wow

I never would have thought the day would come that I'll see my cubes at this number...

i have nothing

that Kizuna AI...

it cost me EVERYTHING

not to mention I'm still missing Akagi Loli

I can't stop... It's too late now... I have all Collab ship

a single miss of any of the collab ship would result to me quitting the game

AL is being a hard ass on me this month... 310k Oil for Sendai 410 Cubes for Ai CV,

so much hardship April...

[midnight heron]

wat r da odds of refreshing only to get da same opponent on leftmost lul

[hazy rain]

I got that yesterday

wait no

I attacked him, beat him, then got him on attack again

[buoyant parrot]

you thought it was going to be somebody else?!

BUT IT WAS I? AGAIN!

is that a jojo reference

[hidden wyvern]

not everything is a jojo reference, @buoyant parrot!

[buoyant parrot]

[hazy rain]

loli Akagi took all my cubes

and she is so smug about it

[hot creek]

damn i just realized I haven't got shit from cnostruction either

but i don't really care tbh

[buoyant parrot]

good for you easy life

[hot creek]

its nice being able to do daily builds for event currency

instead of rushing everything day 1

I think im just burned out after nagato event lol

[hazy rain]

you have ascended

I still need to burn out Krappa

[modern tree]

at least you wont quit the game as soon as you miss one ship

[buoyant parrot]

I need Akagi-Chan please... last one... I can save cubes again

[blazing scroll]

[random vault]

im at the halfway to burn out stage

what is bb ai and does it exist

[versed atlas]

i dont have burnout

i just cant get all the ships i want because of cubes...

if getting the ships involved grinding i wouldnt care

[random vault]

saved 120k, burned em all and still didnt get bb ai

[versed atlas]

cause then i could decide whether i want the ships or whether cubes just say no

[split socket]

spent 100 cubes for lolies, got 0. Went back to limited construction and did 10 builds at once and it gave me 2 BB AI & Anniversary AI. GG

[random vault]

did any of you guys test out the intelligence chip thingy

[split socket]

had to reset 2 times against another near bis namaryuu. Thought my VG lineup was shit, turns out it was because I had unequipped everything from amagi to put on hood since I was lvling her yesterday 🤦

[coral wren]

[modest dawn]

are the kizuna ai ships good at pvp?

[split socket]

not really, only AI ship that is good is BB AI but her barrage isn't suited for pvp

[sharp obsidian]

So, are any of the 3 Kizuna Ai Aux Equips meta-relevant? 😃

Yeah, I am curious about the Accuracy Buff on Carriers 😄

[charred sable]

FYI, on JP servers:

only able to get into the green servers

so I chose the oldest green server available to me

Neptune replaces Belfast I think

as main tank

some go with Saint Louis cause of the evasion buff, but I think the self heal is better

St Louis has a higher HP pool though

[coral wren]

does Nep have any use in pve+

?

[blazing scroll]

She can be used in pve

But Saint Louis is better

[charred sable]

all the PR ships have high base stats

[coral wren]

I will boost my PR ship with luck gear

[charred sable]

but grinding them up to max stats is a long grind lol

and if we get PR1 + PR2, you can forget about the first gens

[coral wren]

FDG all the way

[charred sable]

cause it'll all be about the Friedrich der Grosse rush

[split socket]

u'd still have to be able to unlock PR2 with fleet tech, not sure how much it requires but I doubt we have enough

[charred sable]

There's also Azuma

much grinding

before and after construction

[coral wren]

isnt she useless in AL as she is in wows

[charred sable]

you misunderstand her uses

[coral wren]

oh

[charred sable]

but practically speaking, it looks like she's only strong if you equip her with this gun, which is research-only:
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Triple_310mm_(Type_0_Prototype)

[empty sinew]

it'd be really interesting seeing how she'll do vs vanguards with her BB like shelling

[coral wren]

reloads for 10 secs. misses or shoots at a mob that is ramming her

[modern tree]

Skipping Nep and Monarch to get fdg first seems like a terrible mistake

[charred sable]

depends on how long the grind is relatively

Monarch is really good for PvE and easy to unlock I believe, so if the grind is much smaller, might as well unlock her first

but if you can get by world 12 without her, might as well aim for the big fish right at the start

[split socket]

depends on bismarck I think, we might just see kms meta

[charred sable]

yeah, Bismark will definitely throw a wrench into stuff

[empty sinew]

"mystery ship" is more or less confirmed to be Bismarck i assume

[charred sable]

I'm all about dat auto life

[split socket]

I really hope it's not cube related

[charred sable]

other than on weekends, barely have time to play the game

[split socket]

nagato, kizuna ai and lolis all in a row without a break and then release bismarck on construction would be absolutely evil

[charred sable]

Bismarck should come with some type of major story event

[modern tree]

also, hype for fdg seems so exaggerated, there already is a KMS boat with nothing but HP and look at how useful she is

[charred sable]

given her role importance in the Azur Lane "story"

[split socket]

except fdg is not just kms boat with nothing but hp

[charred sable]

@modern tree https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Friedrich_der_Grosse see her skillset

[split socket]

have u seen her endless barrages

[charred sable]

http://wiki.joyme.com/blhx/腓特烈大帝 still waiting on someone to upload gifs of all the barrages

[empty sinew]

there's this tho https://imgur.com/7gNBSpt

[charred sable]

pretty

No Nagato pretty, but still pretty :3

[modern tree]

I have seen her 0 luck and 65 acc, having Hyuuga barrage on a bigger cd does not impress me a whole lot

dunno, I guess she has high main gun efficency?

[split socket]

I mean, u prefer hood over amagi. The hms bias is real xD

[ionic magnet]

comparing fdg to prinz

[modern tree]

Hood is a better offensive boat

[charred sable]

🍿

[split socket]

I don't really like hoods barrage now that I'm used to amagis

[charred sable]

Duke of York's barrage is more comparable to Amagi's I think

Hood's serves a different purpose than Amagi's. They aren exactly comparable

[split socket]

I'm still lvling her though since shes waifu owo

[charred sable]

I'm just gonna be leveling two IJN fleets

one Nagato + foxes, one Nagato + bunnies

[split socket]

I kinda want to bring NCar to w12

[modern tree]

Also, compared to fdg, Hyuuga is 6 less oil, Hood is 5 less oil, Monarch is 3 less oil. If all you care about is fat body and a barrage then there are probably a lot of options that are better for general play

[ionic magnet]

i think we are talking about pvp so oil is not really relevant

[charred sable]

I assumed all the PR ships are high oil cost and not really optimal for PvE

[elder crane]

FdG barrage is only about 3k combined base, vs Hood/Amagi's 2k base in comparison
And the majority of it has normal Big7 spread

Monarch is amazing for PvE

Self-healing especially is very unique on her

Plus her higher stats than most everyone and good barrage

[sharp obsidian]

In the JAP PvP Fleets, why do people go for Neptune instead of St. Louis?

[elder crane]

They.... don't?

Louis is preferred for Non-HMS usually

[modern tree]

I guess most of the hype comes from KMS having more than 2 good boats

[sharp obsidian]

Hmm... In the pics above, there were a few that used Neptune. I was going to prioritize St. Louis for my VG but am having second thoughts now

[split socket]

that's a big part of it, I know quite a lot of ppl that want to play kms but it's hard to justify doing so when there are so many other ships in other factions that are better

[charred sable]

@sharp obsidian Its a small sample size. I only screenshotted viable fleets in the top 20

theres a lot of joke defences on JP servers. Like all red hair, all purple hair, etc.

[split socket]

even worse when they can't even compete in pvp meta

[sharp obsidian]

Okie! So for PvP, St. Louis is still the best for PvP amongst the PR Ships that will launch soon?

[ionic magnet]

im p sure the hype is cos of her art

[elder crane]

For general applicability ranking for PvP, Louis>Monarch=Neptune>Ibuki>rest imo

[charred sable]

Increases own speed by 3 (8). After battle begins: for the next 40 seconds, increases own Evasion by 15% (35%).

[split socket]

inb4 ppl actually bring St Louis to pvp

[charred sable]

35% evasion during the first 40 seconds of PvP is pretty significant

[elder crane]

40s is most of the vanguard fight anyways

[charred sable]

versus Neptune

     When Neptune's health falls below 20%, recovers 15% (25%) of max heath and increases Reload by 30% until the end of the battle. Only triggers once per battle.

Neptune gets a self-heal and reload buff

[elder crane]

The speed too is also important

Makes her as fast as CLs

[charred sable]

ohg yeah, 8 speed is pretty zoom zoom

[elder crane]

basically a free boiler

[shy hazel]

i dont hype fdg because i expect her to be gamebreaking

[charred sable]

but Neptune has one MAJOR advantage in her favour

[elder crane]

FdG won't be a clear include in PvP imo

[shy hazel]

i hype her cos she has potential to make kms have use

in pvp

zul

[elder crane]

NepNep has that waifu factor

Also HMS bonus

[charred sable]

🇲 🇪 🇮 🇩 🇴

there were no HMS fleets in top 30 on the server I checked

not even fun defences, sorry Daxam lol

[shy hazel]

people are using meme ships rn

[elder crane]

Also Louis is not affected by Aurora

[charred sable]

I was kind of disappointed there weren't even any Maid teams

[shy hazel]

ive never seen any good hms for 4 seasons

in aurora alrdy

[charred sable]

Belfast / Bel-chan / 2B

[elder crane]

Which means vs Aurora she has higher Eva rate than DDs with the PR rudder

[modern tree]

KMS will still have the same problem it has now, which is they have about whole one VG ship that does anything and its a slow, slowballing CA. FDG won't really make any KMS fleet. She might be ran alongside maybe 2 other KMS boats, but you will absolutely have to fill in everything else with real boats.

[charred sable]

@shy hazel thats cause Aurora is competitive

[shy hazel]

though im making monarch so soon will have

[charred sable]

FdG will probably act as the wildcard rather than KMS-focused fleet

same as how Enterprise was just thrown in here and there

[split socket]

we'll see how it goes with bismarck, I agree that fdg alone won't change kms but it's a start

[elder crane]

And also not a clear-cut "best wildcard"

[ionic magnet]

cos you will get laughed at if you put up an hms def fleet

[shy hazel]

lets see if bisko is true

and if bisko will do something

lol

[charred sable]

but yeah, Bismarck is a major factor

[elder crane]

Also funny how FdG memes on Tirpitz for not playing with her

[charred sable]

inb4 people stop caring about synergy all together and just throwing together all the "best" ships in the main fleet like whats happening with vanguard

[split socket]

that kinda happened in jp already

[charred sable]

Juneau earning that permanent vanguard spot

[elder crane]

Its already happening with WSKai

PR2 will make it even more so once they start coming online

[shy hazel]

mix all pr 2 ships

[charred sable]

main fleet will just be Warsprite, FdG and Bismarck

who cares if they dont synergize

[elder crane]

WSkai Amagi FdG Georgia

[charred sable]

need Azuma

[elder crane]

4 independently amazing options already, probably

[charred sable]

for the big 🥖 numbers

[modern tree]

I mean, people will run Warspite Bismarc and FDG together to flex rainbow ships, not necasairly because its any good

[charred sable]

Warspite, Busmarck, FdG
Azuma, Sandy, ???

[split socket]

prinz kai plz

[shy hazel]

bismark isnt supposed to be rainbow

wiki one is dev joke

[charred sable]

do we have a 3rd rainbow front?

[shy hazel]

sandy

[elder crane]

Not yet

[charred sable]

Prinz will probably get a Kai

[shy hazel]

im still looking forward

[elder crane]

Prinz is very likely next, yep

[shy hazel]

bisko fdg prinz kai roon

juneau gonna be a nazi soon

[elder crane]

Here's hoping prinz kai doesn't overlap Roon
Idk if that's realistic though

[charred sable]

Prinz Retrofit will be Roon-level shields

[split socket]

shes by far the most popular ship whos totally being shelfed just because shes terrible ingame. I can't think of anyone else more deserving of kai

[elder crane]

Super super tankiness would be a good niche for her
But she'll probably go the damage route, and then overlap with Roon

And then devs will pull a Sandy on her trying to make her stand out, maybe?

[charred sable]

Kizuna Ai will be all SEXY NAISU BOODEH! over Prinz Retrofit

[shy hazel]

fdg super tank prinz super tank

[split socket]

I remember ppl telling me prinz is tanky when I was still a newb

[shy hazel]

thatll be krazy

[charred sable]

She was pretty tanky early on

those shields and high HP pool carried me hard through early game

[elder crane]

Yeah, making her a FdG of the vanguard would be nice

[shy hazel]

prinz was a pvp staple for a long time

[split socket]

only because ppl didn't know any better

[elder crane]

Pretty good but not top damage potential, ridiculously tanky

[modern tree]

pvp staple, loool

[charred sable]

I dont think Prinz was PvP at all

[shy hazel]

[charred sable]

only PvE

[shy hazel]

ppl didnt know how to torp

[split socket]

questionable, even in pve lol

[charred sable]

PvP, you had the Yugioh trio, which was easy to obtain

and easy to max

[modern tree]

I member shredding every Eugen I saw with my dumb Indie/Port

[charred sable]

but everyone got a free Prinz, who was gold, so people focused on lvling her

[shy hazel]

thats was the funny beginning

[charred sable]

then hit the level cap and struggled to get gold bullins

[shy hazel]

prinz with helena

enty hood backline

with lusty

[split socket]

javelin

[charred sable]

I ran Belfast, Brinz, Takao for my PvP vanguard for a long time actually, just to flex my 💰

[split socket]

fun times

[charred sable]

then once Eldridge was ready, switched to Belfast, Eldgridge, Helena I think?

[ionic magnet]

lusty + eldridge

[shy hazel]

but well

for now im just gonna

observe if bisko will come and be useful

[charred sable]

Day 1 team lol

[shy hazel]

ganbaru

[charred sable]

Dat first PvP match lol

[split socket]

unicorn mvp

[charred sable]

Yeah, looks like I used Prinz for quite some time lol

...apparently a lot longer time than I remembered lol

[elder crane]

She's not bad, back then

[charred sable]

yeah, I was still able to get Admiral of the Fleet with her, even amongst HMS meta at the time

[split socket]

the earliest screenshot I could find with my pvp fleet (look at defense) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/495610486914547739/495669933032603659/Screenshot_2018-09-29-20-55-05.png?width=1202&height=677

what an absolute mess xd

[charred sable]

either that or I just kept her on defence but used Helena in actual fights

[split socket]

that was end of september

[charred sable]

ok, yeah, I definitely had Helena maxed at that time, just kept Prinz on defence for the looks lol

[random vault]

https://cdn.binary102.com/share/2019-04-27_21-12-21.mp4

funny to see it move only one pattern

[charred sable]

what do the other aux's do?

[random vault]

the headgear adds Ai Faction to your ship and gives +500 hp +2 aux at +10

but en is bugged as shit so we dont get those stats yet

[elder crane]

That pattern is probably better, I suppose?

Less ramming (probably in most cases?), less humping edge and missing torp/not shooting CA guns

[modern tree]

Honestly, this pattern makes your whole VG a lot faster because of the water current (whcih is a real mechanic btw)

[vague token]

too bad it doesnt work in pvp

xD

[elder crane]

Tons of hackusasions if it was usable in PvP

But would make PvP less RNG if it was the better pattern

[prisma python]

So with Random Word Generator what’s the best auxiliary combination with CVs?

[cobalt ore]

2 catapult

[modern tree]

nobody tested it and ACC is unlikely to make enough impact to change anything so you probably still run oil tank and whatever else you want

2 catas are okay with multiple cvs I suppose, but the damage difference is not that huge between cata and oil tank, and oil is cheaper to upgrade

[elder crane]

For some numbers on AI equip on Hiryuu, check my doc

Loses lots of damage (>10% likely, depending on how much is suicide) on main fleet, about same on vanguard, as gold cata

Gains somewhere around 7-8% eHP at best, might be as low as 5% depending on how much is fires/aviation suicide

Also doing some mirror testing for Nagayuu/Stall

lol just had juneau be the 4th ship to die

I'm already running double boilers, what more do you want?

[vague token]

more boilers clearly

just remove her torps

and put boilers there

[modern tree]

buy oxy torp and put it on her

[elder crane]

Oxytorp juneau

[modern tree]

double her dps

[elder crane]

....I'm starting to hate the rng on this team for the mirror

[modern tree]

play HMS I kinda commit to killing the VG and it works about 90% of the time

[elder crane]

coinflip barrage
coinflip barrage
coinflip barrage
Stomp 80%, but somehow lose badly on 5%

[split socket]

are u running oathed team? I haven't had to reset yet with namaryuu since I got them to 110 except when I messed up with amagis equip

[elder crane]

Wait, this is too many times to be a coincidence
Do fires only burn for 4 ticks in PvP base, or am I super ridiculously blind?
I noticed this last time I tested too but I thought it was just me missing a few ticks here and there, buried amongst the other damage popups or covered by splash art

It's only ever vs namagi max oath teams during testing (cause I don't face them enough times otherwise probably) that I ever see match losses

Ugh this is frustrating me
Probably I missed ticks

[vague token]

yeesh this kyuzelga guy with his old school wasd/e team is like destroying me

beaver enty takes like no damage from amagi

=/

or im guessing beaver, since otherwise id be landing more hits from barrage

given nagato boost

[coral wren]

if u see alot of miss. it might be because she just used lucky E

[vague token]

buddy, 381mm doesnt overlap with that

until the third shot

xD

[coral wren]

ok

[elder crane]

Amagi with 381 2nd shot overlaps with lucky E, with or without FCR

[vague token]

is that ijn boosted

or no

[elder crane]

Yep

[vague token]

i dont run 4 ijn

so it's different

[elder crane]

Oh nvm then

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

yes then it's 3rd for 381

[split socket]

so wasde is a thing now?

[vague token]

doubt it

if i swapped sara out it'd be fine im sure

it was juneau/belfast/fortune

[elder crane]

idk I've been crushing those with what I normally run

oooh fortune

[vague token]

i think 14k front, 13.6k back

[elder crane]

if you don't have -eva fortune can be troublesome

[vague token]

it wasnt so much fortune

as amagi couldnt kill any backliners

[elder crane]

and I'm still seeing more of what seems like 4 fire ticks

Amagi doesn't reduce fire duration, right?

[vague token]

na, just damage

[split socket]

the only meta team I've fought that managed to get my attention was a nakaga that cleared out my vg AND backline in 2nd airstrike all at once. Still won cause of hiryuus invulnerability but that gave me a jump

[vague token]

maybe i need to oath amagi

xD

[elder crane]

can anyone else confirm that fires in PvP, base, without refresh, tick only 4 times?

[split socket]

shes a game clutcher

[elder crane]

I'll upload my vid soon where I appear to be seeing it

[coral wren]

dudes is it bad or good to put toolbox + anti torps on hiryuu

cus i noticed my winrate went up

after I put health on her

[elder crane]

pretty sure its suboptimal
Sample size?

[coral wren]

oh

fk

I didnt really do sample

I just had like 10 games with different mirrors

[split socket]

why would u put antitorp on her 😮

[coral wren]

CUS ppl with oxy torp VGs

[split socket]

vg is hardly the problem

[coral wren]

one torp takes away like 20-30%

[elder crane]

I'll have to find one of those people to test against

so far no torpteam has been much trouble

[coral wren]

torp team have been my worst problems

[elder crane]

I've done you cya, it was easy-ish

unless you changed in past few days?

[vague token]

yeesh everything else is so much easier than that fleet lol

or maybe it's juneau being 105 still that is the problem

[coral wren]

fk

wc

[vague token]

o.O

[coral wren]

[vague token]

lol

[elder crane]

Yeah, apparently being down 2-0 on Nagato barrages in a match kinda makes it hard to win

[vague token]

oof

[elder crane]

4.7% chance for that to happen

Even on amagi barrages both times
Other RNG hard to quantify

[split socket]

I saw a pretty huge performance boost once I moved hsfcr to amagi and put beaver + sg radar on nagato

[elder crane]

I've double SG on her instead, with beaver on Hiryuu

Yeah I keep seeing fires only tick 4 times base in PvP

Okay, final result 14/16 wins
I'd call that pretty good

Yes, typing now

vs Novae Nagato/Amagi/Hiryuu/Belfast/Juneau/Yukikaze
13401/12896
with Nagato/Hiryuu/Amagi/Belfast/Juneau/Yukikaze
13386/12883
(2 boiler on Jun, FE/box on ykkz, Badge Hiryuu, HFCR Amagi)

1. Win, 15k fires taken on main fleet, 1% HP left on main when exiting match (estimated vs total HP pool including Jun, pearl, and ykkz heals)
2. Win, 6.5k fires, 1/4 HP left
3. Win, 3k fires, <1/5 HP left
4. Win, 8k fires, <10% HP left
5. Win, 11k fires, ~15% HP left
6. Win, 8.5k fires, ~5% HP left
7. Win, 11k fires, 1/5 HP left
8. Loss, 5k fires, ~10% HP left
9. Win, 7k fires, 1/2 HP left
10. Win, 14k fires, <5% HP left
11. Win, 9k fires, , <5% HP left
12. Loss, 8k fires, , 0 HP left
13. Win, 5k fires, 1/2 HP left
14. Win, 7k fires, 2/3 HP left
15. Win, 5k fires, 1% HP left
16. Win, 14k fires, 1/5 HP left

That super variable fire damage

[vague token]

that's all over the place

xD

i just realized i probably could have used eldridge and been fine

since there was a 406

would have dodged most of the damage lol

[elder crane]

https://youtu.be/ie8xph60SIk for vid of the matches
Also forgot to mention 1st match I forgot to swap out the Sheff I was leveling

[vague token]

[cerulean flint]

So is it decided then that Nagato Amagi Hiryuu is the meta? I've seen advocates of Hyuuga in place of Hiryuu until Hiryuu retrofit.

[modern tree]

I really dislike Hyuuga

[cerulean flint]

Cool, I'll work on leveling Hiryuu then. Thanks guys.

[grave gale]

I think I still prefer using Akagi. Helps makes matches faster. Anytime I use Hiryuu or Hyuuga, battles last a while. Thinking Hiryuu is best on defense to annoy people.

But raising Hiryuu now is good for the future. She'll be a lot stronger with her retrofit.

[vague token]

hiryuu is weak to bulky teams who buffer through her final counter

aka the 3rd slot is the deciding factor

also forcing final counter really early with amagi makes it basically a non-factor since vanguard will be up

kek

[zenith tundra]

nagato acc buff is amazing in w13

from what wis was saying

[vague token]

eww, enemies that dodge

what is this, pvp?

[zenith tundra]

w13 has enemies over ur level so u miss more often

[ionic magnet]

air superiority reduces accuracy too iirc

[zenith tundra]

if u have it on negative

[ionic magnet]

but well thats still a long way ahead

[shy hazel]

last reset this season

[zenith tundra]

i'm 5 pts behind rank 10 with 5 extra attempts from next reset lol

[ionic magnet]

🇫

[split socket]

who knows, u might get lucky and get +2 pts on rush

so do ur pvp now

[vague token]

already got my aotn =D

[split socket]

u can get lucky within those 5 attempts u have now

[shy hazel]

higher chnce u get 9s

than 11s

[split socket]

also rushing with 10 fights are just no no

not with his score

[vague token]

yikes

[zenith tundra]

i want to try and see if i can get the extra attempts bug so i'm gonna stay at 5/10 this season

[vague token]

o.O

[shy hazel]

oh ill give up on top ten this time

i really slept on a round

din realize

gotta blame avengers i watched ytd

[zenith tundra]

[shy hazel]

it freakin made me cry to sleep

i forgot to do pvp

LOL

[vague token]

ooooof

[buoyant parrot]

Rip

[charred sable]

[shy hazel]

so fast

[trim horizon]

https://prnt.sc/ni3794

[split socket]

Ran out of patience

[shy hazel]

[hot creek]

thats a pretty decent score. for Sandy at least lol.

[split socket]

Couldve gone a bit more if I didnt miss an attack. Also dont want to wait anymore cause i know ur leading by at least 15pts xD i ended up eating 4 +9

[vague token]

gasp

[hot creek]

i will probably have to take a similar amount of +9 and little chance for +11 on the way up

hell i already had to burn three opponent refreshes just to not eat a +9 at 6/10

[shell heron]

people moving really slow on avrora tonight. I know the season rank 1 is not 2587

[lament lichen]

Probably gonna be 2304

[vague token]

i mean it's been a slow season anyways

[lament lichen]

2604

[ionic magnet]

noone will move mid reset

wait for like 5 mins before reset

[coral wren]

The hiryuu fleet does much better than fox + amagi for me right now

[ionic magnet]

but you cant do hai domo+fakkyu fighter bombs kek

[shell heron]

well, might as well move now then. My max score is most likely 2592

[shy hazel]

gotta hate that sleep lol

[zenith tundra]

how much is this lol

+5?

[vague token]

should be

i get 5.2

but who knows

xD

[shell heron]

I got +5.3 so +5

[zenith tundra]

too bad won't happen. i want to try and see if keeping charges triggers that bug where people have extra attempts at the beginning

[shell heron]

F, used all 5 refreshes to avoid getting that +9

still got a +9

well 2591. took 2 +9s because I ran out of opponent refresh at 3/10

[vague token]

oof

[hot creek]

i had to take two +9's and a +8

[lament lichen]

sandy life

[hazy rain]

Yukikaze 1v6

[zenith tundra]

kizuna event gonna take forever.... i'm already tired of it. it gives literally no points

[finite valve]

the only point consuming shit in the shop is PR bp

all other can just skip

[zenith tundra]

u strill need 35k just for bps

[finite valve]

30 * 500 is 15k

[zenith tundra]

with 21 days of dailies bonuses and black sp u still need ~340 runs of sp4 to get 60k

[finite valve]

35k for 5 extra bp

lel

[zenith tundra]

that's still 300 runs of sp4

[steep fog]

Lmao im just gonna get 20k and call it quit

[zenith tundra]

no that's so low

15k bps +6k equip +8k kiazuna

minumum 30k

[steep fog]

Aint the equip sucks

[zenith tundra]

2.5k

[steep fog]

🤔

[zenith tundra]

not really

[blazing scroll]

Still gold equipment

[zenith tundra]

the toolbox one is better then using 2 toolboxes and the boiler one is better then boiler for fleet power meme

[finite valve]

a SG radar that don't decrease ambush rate
a tool box that don't regenerate HP but + 2 luck

dk about the 3 one

[zenith tundra]

it's a boiler with higher fleet power

the 3rd

[finite valve]

only idiots care about fleet power in pvp

[hot creek]

Nah bro. gotta pump those numbers up

[finite valve]

[zenith tundra]

the toolbox is better then a 2nd toolbox on same ship because regeneration doesn't stack also for a sacrifice ship like juneau that dies before 30 sec i think the extra luck is better then 1 tick of regen as ehp

[steep fog]

But i run boiler in place of toolbox on everything

[zenith tundra]

if u consider running toolbox maybe is better but she doesn't really get much from 2 luck not that i look at the ehp calc

[ionic magnet]

dailies can give like 26k pts if you just do black sp

[zenith tundra]

it's 300+100+600 daily unless u have cubes to waste on 3x build

that is 21k pts fover 21 days

how much is the event long?

can't see it ingame

it's 20 days long and u get 600 from black sp 300 from daily victories and 100 from hard

20k pts

i don't have cubes to waste on 3x build

[ionic magnet]

another 6k for 3 builds but yea that one is optional

ill prolly only aim for 35k

[blazing scroll]

I wish I didn't miss so many attacks this season

[zenith tundra]

292 sp4

for 55k

334 for 60k