#pvp | Azur Lane Official | Page 261

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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hm doesn't it seems

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so dumb

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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x-5 counts as normal

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yea, hm should count lol

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tbh everything about belchans event feels so bad atm

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they should've just delayed it so it came with PR update instead

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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i would've prefered if they didn't release both at the same time and we got og belchan event. it had so many good rewards especially tons of chips

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kizuma doesn't even have 1k chips

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I was looking forward to that too

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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from accumulation at least

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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on the other hand, I'm also glad they didn't relase kizuna ai together with og belchan event

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that would've been outright insane

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60k farm for both event

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like wot

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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that's like top tier farmers level

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outside of the 5 pr bps kizuma accumulation is pretty meh and even those are only 5. but u need to farm 48k only for full shop so u get pretty much all accumulation just going for shop

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 3:18 AM

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kizuna*

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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u know what i'm gonna to spell it wrong just for spite of her pitiful event

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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I'd proabably still farm the event past 60k if I have time, gotta get those gear skins

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I don't think we'll ever get a dive bomber skin that'll top this

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literally dropping F bombs

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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hey didn't you say we weren't gonna get pr bps

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there are some in the shop isn't it

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:21 AM

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i said it was most unlikely but they did us a favor since they delayed research for no reason

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belchan has pr bps too and u get 5 from kizuma accumulation

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the 30 bps in shop cost 15k pts lol

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 3:28 AM

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that face gets me every time

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im doing something, look back and there she is

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staring

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:29 AM

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i think that is the worse mechanic i saw in the game

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 3:29 AM

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it was fun the 1st time

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at least u won't see it anymore once u reach safe level

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:31 AM

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i got d4 to safe and starting farming belchan event now... can't even enjoy it

shell heron Apr 27, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Having to grind 2 different maps feel just awful

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:33 AM

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i think that 8-4 is best place to farm belchan right. highest map u only need 4 clears before boss

shell heron Apr 27, 2019, 3:34 AM

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I'd go back to 7-2 because gold for event skin, but back to something pvp related.
Today seems to be when people rush top 10

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 3:35 AM

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aotn rush was the reset before

shell heron Apr 27, 2019, 3:36 AM

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I prefer the 3rd reset of the day for any refresh that I might have to do

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 3:44 AM

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aotn reset was like, 9 ish hours ago i believe

shell heron Apr 27, 2019, 4:18 AM

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yea last reset. but doing it now isn't too bad

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 4:19 AM

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@split socket holy shit, now I need Fakkyu bombers, torpedoes, AND guns

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flood the screen with red FAKKYU's

shell heron Apr 27, 2019, 4:19 AM

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So if you have me on your list, I'm climbing right now

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 4:19 AM

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the farming hell begins

shell heron Apr 27, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Dang, i couldn't steal rank 1 from Gurren tonight

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 5:09 AM

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oh i have sumire

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neat

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 6:14 AM

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laffeyDrink

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 6:20 AM

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always fun to see people from here on my list

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usually i get random stuff

lament lichen Apr 27, 2019, 6:46 AM

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gdi nekkonin has double FAKKYU skins

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:00 AM

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o.o

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wut

lament lichen Apr 27, 2019, 7:10 AM

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he has the FAKKYUU shells

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:15 AM

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oh god

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i need that xD

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:15 AM

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god damn it

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 7:15 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190427-001531.png

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:15 AM

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luck ass ff

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 7:16 AM

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gimme lots of points pl0x

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:16 AM

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i want the fakkyu skin

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karen_cry

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 7:17 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190427-001654.png

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:17 AM

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oh wow

dense lynx Apr 27, 2019, 7:18 AM

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laffeyDrink

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 7:18 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190427-001825.png

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lol wtf

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:19 AM

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wait what

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the rng

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:19 AM

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don't u have build to waste money on instead of skin boxes?

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 7:19 AM

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+11 instead this time

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Im actually super sad you cant farm skin boxes

lament lichen Apr 27, 2019, 7:20 AM

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man why are these namagit teams with hyuuga retro

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 7:20 AM

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I want all FAKKYU planes + torpedoes + bullets

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:21 AM

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imo funnier to play then hiryuu @lament lichen

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+14k fleet power meme

lament lichen Apr 27, 2019, 7:21 AM

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i saw 3 people on my list with that set up

charred sable Apr 27, 2019, 7:21 AM

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tfw you realize the Kizuna Ai torpedoes look like dildos with pink balls

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:22 AM

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anyone know max bis wasde fleet power?

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@real notch could we put in the guide fleet power for max bis gear for comps? or at least some of the ones we know. in a different tab for it so people can check up if they want

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like namaryuu
13416 without beaver
13401 with beaver
133xx with beaver on hiryuu
something like this for the different comps

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at least for main fleet should be easy

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:30 AM

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fun part of using sara

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you get to flex 13900 ish fleet power

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although i dont have max affinity on anyone xD

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:34 AM

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beaver hiryuu is 13386

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yea, but nowhere to put it @zenith tundra

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:35 AM

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different tab

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like one made just for it

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if people want to check it they will

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:36 AM

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uhh i can see the use of it but

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not sure if we need a new tab for it

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also i don't have any exact information other than namaryuu atm

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we would need one for namahyuu, HMS, wasd too

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:37 AM

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u can just collect data from people here. plus u can just ask around since it's easy x + x + x

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:38 AM

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like, members can see the fleet power to find out if the fleet they are fighting is roughly maxed or not

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but there's so much variance in fleets noawadays to have use for exact fleet powers IMO

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i think if we just say like

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"assuming 110, oathed, a BiS +10 namaryuu is ~134xx"

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"assuming 110, oathed, a BiS +10 wasda is 142xx"

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but aside from letting people know if their enemies are "maxed", it's not that important info maybe

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:40 AM

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my point of a new tab was so we could put different fleet powers for the comps like unoathe and oathed and different setups

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warShrug

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:41 AM

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idk, that's just IMO

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we should ask other ppl

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:42 AM

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it would be like a nerd tab for hardcore ppl that care about that when testing but then might not be useful for most people

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:43 AM

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ye that's my point, i agree

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but since our guide is geared towards "newbies" we could just keep that info for ourselves

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i think

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:44 AM

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then gonna collect data and make a sheet for it separately

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:44 AM

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ye bet

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what info do u have so far

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i'll help

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what do u need

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:44 AM

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none other then what i can setup

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:45 AM

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ye that's what i'm asking

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what fleets can you not make maxed of

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:45 AM

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any wasd comp

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don't have kaga bb and hyuuga oaths

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and ws oath 110

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out of the meta ones

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:46 AM

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i could be wrong but oathed for backline should be +66 fleet power

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i confirmed this for wasd E

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i can give u fleet power for maxed wasd comps

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just take ur hyuuga kai and +66, that should be it oathed

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 7:47 AM

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i have some stuff to do now. u can just send me some pic with what i don't have and gonna start on it later

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 7:48 AM

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np

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u want pics?

dense lynx Apr 27, 2019, 8:15 AM

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uniYan

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 8:40 AM

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tfw you have an even 12k vanguard power

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i guess i cant level up anymore

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xD

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 9:54 AM

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finite valve Apr 27, 2019, 9:57 AM

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https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1122076505494835201
prepare your oil bois iris is coming at 5/15

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

Disregard previous post!
A mystery ship is slated for release in mid-May instead. Operation Manjuu will be extended to 5/15 (PDT). 2K Oil & 500 Manjuu will be sent to all CMDs. Drop rate of Manjuu will increase by 50%, this will take effect after 5/5 update (PDT)

#AzurLane

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 9:58 AM

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smugBucky

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its mikasa

random vault Apr 27, 2019, 9:59 AM

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im guessing biscuit chan

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but mikasa maybe possible too

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since hiei chan came before hiei entyLUL

finite valve Apr 27, 2019, 10:01 AM

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isn't bisko for anniversary on CN?

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:01 AM

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wait

random vault Apr 27, 2019, 10:01 AM

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we usually get the new content other servers are getting thats not a rerun/s2/continued version

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:01 AM

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cn alrdy got bismarck?

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if cn is getting bisko then we maybe getting it too

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new ships releases trickles down on en too

random vault Apr 27, 2019, 10:02 AM

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they havent got biscuit but theyre being teased

finite valve Apr 27, 2019, 10:02 AM

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some ppl are saying that she is for anniversary on CN no confirmation tho

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:05 AM

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i have a real feeling

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its mikasa

finite valve Apr 27, 2019, 10:06 AM

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warShrug

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:08 AM

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if its anniv ship means we wont get it until our own anniv maybe

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which is on august

grave gale Apr 27, 2019, 10:09 AM

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intern said iris will be around our anniversary

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:09 AM

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i actually want us to get all anniv ships from 2nd and 3rd anniv of jp/cn respectively

grave gale Apr 27, 2019, 10:09 AM

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most likely in july

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that tweet is probably referring to bismarck. Who's gonna be unofficially unveiled may 1st

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:11 AM

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if she gets her own event i guess

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we get it too

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:13 AM

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I remember Bismarck was promised for 2nd CN anniversary 2 years ago

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which is aroud 24 may I think

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:17 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/571640595194314762/720086787149add1ddab861f20056302.png

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it's bismarck

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if this leak is true

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though the writer isnt also sure

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lol

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TIME FOR KMS TO BE PVP GOD SOON

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uniFlex

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with fdg

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:19 AM

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assuming bismarck will be absolutely broken, we got mama graf & fdg to fill backline. Roon for vg but who else would fit in the 2 other slots?

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:19 AM

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which dev level would FdG need to make it to PVP

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:19 AM

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smugBucky

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after 1 year

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LOL

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:20 AM

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helenaPlease

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:20 AM

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i mean itll just be like current meta

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vg is mixed

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:20 AM

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apparently from others who already got her, her barrage trigger range is massive

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pretty much auto trigger in PVP

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:20 AM

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werent u the ones who said though

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itll take her 1 year

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to go dev30

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lol

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:21 AM

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kinda hoped for a full kms fleet entyLUL

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:21 AM

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yes unless they make arrangements

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:21 AM

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BISMARCK MAKES SENSE

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Cos we all think that prinz kai is next kai

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so bismarck with prinz kai

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smugBucky

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:21 AM

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sandyMeme

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:22 AM

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unless they skip over kms kai

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:22 AM

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the low cost researches give no ship prints atm

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:22 AM

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so i guess rainbow bps are reliant on events are they?

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:22 AM

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cutting cubes and throwing gold

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:22 AM

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maybe i should prioritize roon

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if bisko gets released

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kms power

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smugBucky

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:23 AM

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they have data saying 1 rainbow print is worth 3 cubes

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:23 AM

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it probably won't matter who you prioritize since bismarck is likely still a long time left before we get her sandyCry

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:24 AM

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i mean the ship that intern teased

grave gale Apr 27, 2019, 10:24 AM

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nah

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:24 AM

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hypothetically if she has her own event

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:24 AM

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will EN players be okay with without Bismarck at the same time?

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:24 AM

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well get that event too

grave gale Apr 27, 2019, 10:24 AM

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very high chance she'll be a simultaneous release like Amagi

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:25 AM

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so far Yostar's operations are very impressive

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:25 AM

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and i believe

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ofc

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bisko will have her own event

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:25 AM

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it's a different world compared to us

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:25 AM

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sirenTentacles

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kind of looking forward to kms future

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~~until we see bisko's disappointing pvp skills~~

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:41 AM

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amagi's bug hasn't been fixed yet sandyMeme

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:45 AM

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smugBucky

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no one is complaining hard enuf even in cn i guess

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80% of ppl dont even know the barrage is bugged probably

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:46 AM

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her buff and debuff also

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:46 AM

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it's a really minor thing since it only affects def fleet

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:46 AM

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i didnt evne know buff debuff is broken

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z35wow

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:46 AM

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they don't get removed on death

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:47 AM

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dont report that hey smugBucky

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good for pvp

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:47 AM

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so sniping amagi does nothing? xD

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 10:47 AM

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bugs take about 1 year to fix unless it is literally game breaking (unplayable)

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but Amagi still hits really hard

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:48 AM

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btw

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cya already got all little ships?

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special build is a cuck

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uniYan

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why

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:49 AM

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mutsukiStare

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 10:49 AM

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~~buy gems~~

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~~sell your kidney~~

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z35wow

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now i feel bad

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im still not done with special

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fk limited

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alrdy got good kizunas

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cv is bad

finite valve Apr 27, 2019, 10:56 AM

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random vault Apr 27, 2019, 11:06 AM

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166 cubes no bb ai

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entyLUL

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~~kill me~~

grave gale Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Took me around 250 cubes to get all the Ais and lolis

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Still no U-81. longcryland

hot creek Apr 27, 2019, 11:26 AM

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i don't really care about collabs but ppl are saying some of the ships are good?

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:49 AM

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whos the mysterrious ship this may 15th? sowee recently log in

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:49 AM

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bismarck is hinted

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according to jp leak

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:49 AM

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oh build or mission / event based?

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:50 AM

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prolly event that is buildable

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smugBucky

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:50 AM

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got no cubes as of this moment ,. loli banner drained my resources

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:50 AM

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got all?

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:50 AM

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nope SOLT here , got only hiei >.<

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:50 AM

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longcryland

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me no gold

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:51 AM

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well maybe the loli's are not for mine to grab this time laffeyDrink

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:53 AM

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ai event done?

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:55 AM

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im currently finishing the manjuu event as of now im @ 6k , then devs announce the extension oh boi

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:55 AM

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unicornFused

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:55 AM

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well time to shift gears to kizuna

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:56 AM

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im planning to grind 7~2 for gold to roll

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indeed

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:56 AM

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im gonna save cubes for 15th

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 11:57 AM

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why the hell did they increase the drop after 10 days of the event? why not now...

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:57 AM

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according to restart chan

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manpower shortage

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japan is on golden week

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smugBucky

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 11:58 AM

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why the fucking hell there are no week off in my country?

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always some kind of fucking week off in jp/cn

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:58 AM

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blame your country sandyMeme

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 11:59 AM

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i do that don't worry

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:59 AM

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this is the only real vacation In japan i tell u lol

cerulean estuary Apr 27, 2019, 11:59 AM

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blame duterte ( usual joke here in ph )

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:59 AM

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other days theyre forced to work

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on holidays

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:00 PM

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but they cannot do work when week off in cn as well as week off in jp unicornFused

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 12:00 PM

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thats the thing i dont like with our server

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:00 PM

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i want en devs already

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 12:00 PM

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we rely on cn and jp devs

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lol

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they gotta start hiring en devs smugBucky

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preferably indian cos they v good in dev

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:02 PM

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i'm starting to wonder if en has even a team of devs in jp/cn dedicated only to it

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whatever guess back to trash kizuna event for now

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i hope i don't see any of the mechanics in it ever again

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 12:04 PM

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I don't want to see fusou production in ch14

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:05 PM

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which one are those?

vagrant veldt Apr 27, 2019, 12:05 PM

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the one your frontline is stuck inside in the shoukaku node

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:05 PM

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the giant ass ships that head towards flagships ?

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those are terrible

grave gale Apr 27, 2019, 12:09 PM

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best to save the manjuu grinding for PR on May 5th

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then you have 10 days to grind till belchan ends

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:10 PM

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i'm thinking that too but i started grinding it already since it was suppose to end before kizuna. already farmed 2k pts

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not going for sp4?

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oh ok

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i'm curious if lvl 110 juneau can lol

grave gale Apr 27, 2019, 12:16 PM

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my mogami is 105. curious to see if she can 1:1 at SP4 danger 0

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right now she needs a healer

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also Ai keeps fucking me because I look away here for a few bit and she pops up

random vault Apr 27, 2019, 12:16 PM

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for some reason the main fleet enemies this time arent abt burning you

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theyre more abt spamming production ships

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lmfao

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:17 PM

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get that 3* and danger 0 it makes the event actually playable

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 12:33 PM

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its more annoying though

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these productions actually hurt and has big hp as fucc

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:34 PM

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shoukaku nodes and main are the worst

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 12:35 PM

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i didnt know what happened cos im not watching the fight

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but my sheff actually went from 90% hp to 10% after shoukaku node

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LOL

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so its the fusou production eh

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:36 PM

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LeanderXD

random vault Apr 27, 2019, 12:41 PM

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shoukaku node is terrible, ill just skip it lmao

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:41 PM

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did they fix kizuna equips?

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thinkpitz

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speaking of shoukaku and bugs. i still remember when vdir came out 1st time and zui was bugged for a whole week because they were off

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 12:45 PM

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how many golden weeks does jp even have

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i swear it feels like every 3 months or smth

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LOL

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:47 PM

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i think cn has one around september/octomber and another around cn new year

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anyone has a doy unoathed at lvl 110? i want to know her fleet power without equip pls

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 12:52 PM

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2518 oathed 109 affinity

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not sure on unoathed

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:52 PM

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interesting my doy 200 oath has 2587 so 69 more

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 12:53 PM

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mm id imagine its 69 pts difference with unoathed too

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:53 PM

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i imagine that too

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sirrequiem was talking about 66 pts difference on wasd but it doesn't apply to all ships since some gets more stats then others with the bonus

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 12:54 PM

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tho some rounding might mess it a little

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yea its 65ish pts more or less

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:55 PM

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higher base stats should lead to higher differences in fleet power

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 12:56 PM

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^

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foxes only gained 62 pts iirc

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or was it a VG ship idek lol

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 12:57 PM

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guess for my project just gonna have to ask a lot of ppl about fleet power for comps ships at different oath levels

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fox hp isn't that high i would expect a lower gain

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 12:59 PM

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thats gonna be hard

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needs a lot of data fumizukiStare

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:00 PM

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well at least equip gain is same for everyone

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 1:02 PM

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hmm true

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~~but who uses unoathed ships here~~

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prolly better to ask in #gameplay-help entyLUL

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:03 PM

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390 pts for main/aux gun gold +10

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all i need are base ships at 100 unoathed 100-199 oathed and 200 oathed pretty much

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does it have fleet power?

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idk how to calculate and how game rounds stuff

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i could ask if there is a formula for fleet power yet

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 1:07 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Combat#Ship_Power_Rating

Azur Lane Wiki

Combat

Combat is a basic gameplay element of Azur Lane, and is required to complete a large number of objectives in the game. In combat, a fleet of the player's choosing is placed in an instanced, side-scrolling shooter, and must eliminate all spawned ships (including kamikaze ships...

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:09 PM

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i need to memorize that combat page tbh

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 1:12 PM

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i wish wiki had 110 ship stats aswell

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:14 PM

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i wish wikis had hit rating for 110 ships......................

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?hit

hidden wyvernBOT Apr 27, 2019, 1:18 PM

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The hit stat is a hidden stat that affects whether or not an attack hits or misses, and is essentially the counter to a ship's evasion stat.

You can see a list of ship's luck and hit stats (normally hidden in game) here

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:18 PM

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lvl 120 ofc

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 1:21 PM

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soon enough that'll be the only level that matters warShrug

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:22 PM

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till w14

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 1:22 PM

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sandyLul

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 1:22 PM

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so, will akagi-chan be good in pvp?

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 1:22 PM

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probably no

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 1:22 PM

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at least until hiryuu kai comes out

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:24 PM

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i can try and pseudo calculate hit rating by trial and error for ships i have at 110 but it still is as bad as asking around since i don't have all the meta ships

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 1:29 PM

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https://azurlane.wikiru.jp/index.php?��饯��ꥹ��%2FLv110 found this for lvl 110 ship stats

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it's missing hit though

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:29 PM

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hood max oath 2753 oath ~2681 love 2611

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142 fleet power for max oath and 71 difference in between oaths level. definitely not same for all ships

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 1:31 PM

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can't you just use the average hit rating between 120 and 100 to get a rough result?

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 1:31 PM

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ofc, base stats are different after all. Oath is just extra % multiplier on base stats so the resulting fleet power will definitely differ between ships

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:32 PM

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i can reverse engineer the hit knowing power and stats. but cannot calculate it without those

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is hit affected by oath too?

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seems like it isn't

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 1:35 PM

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I wish they would just show luck & hit stats

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doesn't make sense to keep those hidden 😐

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:36 PM

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it's the only value that would give the right fleet power

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@ionic magnet could u post an image of ur doy?

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 1:51 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190427-215129.jpg

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109 affinity

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:54 PM

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it's fine thank you

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 1:54 PM

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renownThumbsUp

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 1:54 PM

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for some reason math doesn't work unicornFused

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with those stats and hit that would make sense fore her max oath the fleet power end up being 4pts higher

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if i assume base hit at around 60 at lvl 110 her oath hit would be 67 which make sense for max oath and her hit would be 65 at oath level which gives the right fleet power

elder crane Apr 27, 2019, 2:20 PM

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So, hit does scale with oath then
And I missed that wiki gives stats at 100 aff, will need to correct LeanderXD

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 2:21 PM

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why isn't dunkek not in pvp channel

leaden sequoia Apr 27, 2019, 2:22 PM

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if that helps, I posted this sometime ago to recover all the data needed to make a stat calculator: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:Oxide/Stat_Growth

Azur Lane Wiki

Stat Growth

[math]
\text{Base Stat Value} =
\left{
\begin{array}{ll}
\displaystyle
\text{Initial Stat Value}
+ \frac{\text{Stat Growth} * (\text{Level} - 1)}{1000},
& \text{if Level} \leq 100 \
\displaystyle
\t...

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the tables below show the "raw" stats that are not directly displayed in-game, but used as parameters for formulas above

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though only for a few ships because I was testing if what I wrote is actually correct

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 2:26 PM

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the problem that i'm having is that without knowing hit rating and applying fleet power formula to a ship stats i end up needing 2 different hit rating for different affection levels for the fleet power calculated to match the one in game which according to people shouldn't change and i'm very confused by that

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FBxxmA9siTsaMBkzOO0z5D969Jb05BA7BRNrh7YT0LA/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

DOY

Sheet1

duke of york,lvl 110,affection 200,https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/505761868426510347/571701175540383780/BlueStacks_ScreenShot.jpg?width=1361&height=676
Hp,power,torpedoes,reload,anti air,aviation,asw,speed,evasion,hit rating ,Fleet power
7853,426,0,151,222,0...

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i made this as a raw for it

leaden sequoia Apr 27, 2019, 2:29 PM

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thinkZed

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according to game files, hit does change when oathed

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 2:30 PM

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oh so 2 people in the 2 different discords were wrong

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well at least i know that

elder crane Apr 27, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Idk why they thought hit was a special stat
Only Luck and Speed don't change with oath, and those also don't change with level aka don't scale at all

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 2:32 PM

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good to know

leaden sequoia Apr 27, 2019, 2:40 PM

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There are 3 groups of stats:

Stats that grow with LB and leveling: HP, Firepower, Torpedo, AA, Aviation, ASW
Stats that are constant with LB and grow with leveling: Reload, Hit, Evasion
Stats that are always constant: Speed, Luck

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And only first 2 groups are affected by affection as of now

zenith tundra Apr 27, 2019, 2:43 PM

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i didn't know stats were categorized like that it's actually interesting. didn't even realize evasion doesn't scale with lb

leaden sequoia Apr 27, 2019, 2:50 PM

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well, they're not categorized in game files, but that's how they work with respect to calculating final stat values

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there could be other aspects to them that could differentiate even further that I'm not aware of

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(like how Nanoda's luck is actually 93 and her blue skill gives permanent +5 luck, so we always deal with 98 luck anyway)

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yep

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also her wiki page shows 98 luck and doesn't mention about +5 luck in her skill because the in-game description doesn't too

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warShrug

elder crane Apr 27, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Azur lane
Hidden stats
Name a more iconic duo

coral wren Apr 27, 2019, 3:00 PM

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weebs and anime

craggy cove Apr 27, 2019, 3:00 PM

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w h y

📎 otznQdt.png

coral wren Apr 27, 2019, 3:01 PM

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w h y n o t

leaden sequoia Apr 27, 2019, 3:02 PM

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CN/JP actually unhid the luck stat and added a clover icon for it 👀

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/File:Luck.png
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/f/f0/Luck.png

Azur Lane Wiki

File:Luck.png

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 3:03 PM

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sub levels are overal harder than the other nodes in their respective worlds, 10-5 is kinda brutal

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except for the sub boss, any reasonably prepared asw fleet can just shit on it

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dunno, I am running a full fleet for ASW because its just 3CLVs and DD vg, boss dies in like 25 seconds or so no matter what world they are in

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very lazy

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time is a resource toooooo

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I miss times where that was true for me

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Looking at this taco fleet the most triggering thing is how low the power of VG is and that the artist for those oath skins just traced his own art out of lazyness it seems

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 3:28 PM

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omg after 310k of OIL Sendai... Finally

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I'm crying

leaden sequoia Apr 27, 2019, 3:28 PM

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jesus

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I can't imagine how much is 310k oil

fair sail Apr 27, 2019, 3:29 PM

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is an additional 30 eva useful for BBs when everybody is has the +acc buff anyway

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 3:30 PM

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so I guess another 300k+ this time for Columbia sigh

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I noticed my nagato survives a lot better since I put badge on her, without it she was almost always guaranteed to be the 1st backline ship to go down against any meta comp

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 3:32 PM

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yes, 30 eva is monumental for BBs

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doubling your evasion is pretty dope

fair sail Apr 27, 2019, 3:32 PM

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im running double sg, but i feel he melts either way lol

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 3:35 PM

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In which matchup do you melt? Mind that, for example, you can't dodge plane touchdown damage

leaden sequoia Apr 27, 2019, 3:35 PM

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and ramming as well

fair sail Apr 27, 2019, 3:39 PM

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hm, it's probably just the plane suicide damage then. they just feel a lot less durable than what i'm expecting

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 3:39 PM

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garbage AA is the leading cause of meltdowns in pvp tbh

fair sail Apr 27, 2019, 3:40 PM

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don't think i can make my AA any better at this point. though i don't end up losing since hiryuu just says lol no

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 3:42 PM

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changing aux equipment just to deal with one matchup where planes are actually threatening seems redundant either way. Foxes are a joke on defense, considering you can smash the team even with HMS

fair sail Apr 27, 2019, 3:44 PM

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mmm yeh. i enjoy running hiryuu too. makes me feel good knowing everyone facing the team will have to spend another 15 seconds longer taking her out

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 5:04 PM

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i havent actually had that problem

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mostly because i proc final counter before all the main fleet is dead

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since amagi bottom in that match up forces it so early

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and not everyone has beaver on hiryuu

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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not bad

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 5:10 PM

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oh that's a neat clearing barrage

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it shoots all over lol

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and they arent arced

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so you wont miss enemies too close

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oh is it?

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 5:11 PM

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it wont? but aren't those AP Shells?

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 5:11 PM

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=/

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saratoga are more aimed than that thing though

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"aimed"

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plus her self 25% evasion isnt bad for dodging mob fire

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like toss on fire extinguisher and a radar she should work all right

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 5:24 PM

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whats a good efficient oil fleet for 11-4?

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 5:31 PM

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at min danger you can get away with [barrage BB] Enterprise Phoenix for clear, whatever it takes for boss. If you dont have Phoenix/Enterprise at 110 then your next best option is [barrage BB] [ any boat that deals damage] Shoho(sub lvl 110 is fine but you use her because she deals damage) and any decent VG at 110

blazing scroll Apr 27, 2019, 5:32 PM

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I just use Amagi, Shouhou, Phoenix

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 5:34 PM

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I use Enteprise because Phoenix doesnt actually need healing if you have beaver/lunchbox on her and lucky e is good for 0 ammo fight/s depending on ambush luck

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 5:37 PM

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ahh I have all Lv110

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alright good enough. Thanks

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 6:32 PM

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damn 11-4 is hard... Anyway you guys finish EX mode yet?

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 6:33 PM

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My oxy torps and 406 Amagi just killed fox VG before foxes launched mutsukiStare

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 6:33 PM

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my VG keeps dying

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Jintsuu Aurora Ykkz just sank instantly

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 6:33 PM

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don't know how you could finish that in 2 : 2 setup

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 6:34 PM

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I am not even using good torps, its just Belfast Ykkz

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what a dumb game

halcyon hill Apr 27, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Is it me or belfast is near ykk levels of tankiness

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She's almost always the last enemy vanguard standing with nearly full hp for some reason

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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that doesnt happen for me if they are using bel/juneau/ykk

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ykk is almost always last on that set

halcyon hill Apr 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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GWseremePeepoThink

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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and for my own fleet, sheffield/juneau/ykk basically 100% guarantees it

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xD

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 7:06 PM

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11-4 is getting into my nerves... Too much oil wasted map is so freaking annoying to lower difficulty

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I can't... I Need Columbia

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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monty is aggressive

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I need her for collection

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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columbia is support

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so who knows

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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that's all there is to her

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 7:08 PM

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i did consider running columbia in pvp once xD

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but i gave up and swapped juneau back into hell

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eh, she wont last long in that set

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you definitely need sheffield shield to make people last

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yeah

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cause like juneau will die pretty quick

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and then columbia is tank

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and cleveland class isnt like that great of a tank

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at least montpelier has a damage reduction for cruisers but they just have decent stats

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nothing fancy

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if anything you'd use her instead of ykk probably

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since it's 25% for 1 instead of 8% for 3

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you lose the single heal so it's close

rare crater Apr 27, 2019, 7:28 PM

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is my positioning for vanguard ok? about the special auxwho should beaver go to? i havent got pear tears yet if i have who to put it on. are my other aux ok?

📎 pvp111.JPG

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torpbuldge?

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so remove camos and replace with?

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whats nagato 2nd aux if it got beaver? sg radar or fire control?

buoyant parrot Apr 27, 2019, 7:36 PM

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i think its easier if you give him the EN Tier List :)

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he can just look into the Ship Analysis thingy

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oh yeah that part

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well tier list is solid but equipment is pretty much standard

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so that's okay I guess

rare crater Apr 27, 2019, 7:40 PM

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ok thanks will check it out

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 9:09 PM

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so like

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i just noticed there's an HE++ ammo

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in the CL gun wiki list

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xD

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it does more vs medium and heavy same vs light

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is that a pr2 gun?

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oh wow it gives 30 fp and 15 aa

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weird

coral wren Apr 27, 2019, 9:45 PM

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What auxiliaries for Yukikaze and Ayaya?

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 9:47 PM

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ykk really appreciates a fire extinguisher

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Damn, this lobby is testing heaven

📎 Screenshot_20190427-150403.jpg

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Namaryuu, namahyuu, nakaga, ... And namasaratoga

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And everyone is either bis or pretty close to it

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 10:10 PM

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shes scary sometimes

📎 unknown.png

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this is vs wasd

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Oxytorp?

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 10:13 PM

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oxy and my rainbow

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shes doing alright

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 10:14 PM

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naruhodone

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I am running it with extinguisher, she only dies if I break through the frontline too fast and she gets wiped by standing in Nagato barrage that just went off

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 10:15 PM

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owo it's me

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 10:16 PM

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probably worse on defense a lot of the time, but also likely to torp the backline for a lot so eeh

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 10:16 PM

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i pushed for merits that's only reason im up there

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=D

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oh, my defense still has sirius i think

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not like juneau is 110 yet

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xD

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oh, i got 2 fakkyu shells

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perfect for pvp

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sandyMeme

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 10:27 PM

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sandyMeme

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I'm 1 fakkyu shell away from a full fakkyu gear loadout on my namaryuu xD

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pretty hilarious when hiryuu uses her airstrike entyLUL

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Wow u lucky mfers

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 10:29 PM

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no fakkyu

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LeanderXD

real notch Apr 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

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FAKKYUUUUUUU

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 10:56 PM

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if i dont have enough gold SG radars, is the random word generator an acceptable replacement?

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i dont see it being a stopgap

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takes forever to get another gold SG

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well, nah, it's fine

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it's just that i couldn't run a 3 BB setup

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without it

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i leveled nagato from like level 20 to 98 in 6-1

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i got like 3 blueprints for gold SG radar

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i dont have hsfcr

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i started at the very end of the washington event

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 10:59 PM

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longcryland

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 10:59 PM

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i'm talking like a day or two before the end of it

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wait

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does aux equipment order matter?

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okay

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phew

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i rwas reading the guide and it said "bulge mandatory in bottom slot"

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ohhhhh, slot meant where she was in the team

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not the equipment

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isn't bottom slot the one that's at the front?

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and top slot is the off-tank

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:02 PM

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rookie numbers uniYan

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:02 PM

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also i kinda disagree on belfast

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:02 PM

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i farmed ,4sg in w6

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Pearl on her is pretty consistent since she doesn't die too fast and not too late.

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from my experience

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belfast is like the last thing that dies on my team quite often

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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6 chars went from 0 to 110

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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until we got ykkz

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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luuul

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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once we see less foxes sheffield will become the better maid sandyMeme

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for that ykk sustain

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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ykkz often rivals belfast

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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wdym foxes = pvp

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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but i find belfast and ykkz to both be bad pearl carriers

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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they wont go away

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smugBucky

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:04 PM

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eh, foxes dont worry me as much as namagi/x

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:04 PM

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i find juneau to be much better as a pearl carrier

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cause juneau actually dies

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before the backline

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unlike the other 2

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by the time belfast dies it's almost certain that one of the backline ships is dead

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:04 PM

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its not about whos better its abt whos more popular and ppl are lazy to swap entyLUL

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:05 PM

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uniYan

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:05 PM

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juneau pearl can overheal most of the time so not worth

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:05 PM

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where's your belfast positioned

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i rarely see her overheal

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well, that's the difference

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i put juneau there

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that means she usually heals after first strike

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so everyone gets topped off again

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or close anyway

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:06 PM

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smugBucky

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dirty meta ppl

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i dont eveb use bel jun anymore

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unicornFused

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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theres many options anyway as long as it works for you

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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but why would i want anyone else to die before juneau

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the whole point is to make juneau heal the VG up so the VG just wont go down

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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uh

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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not really

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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no the point of juneau

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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and then they'll eat like half the air strikes

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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juneau heal is for backline

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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is to heal like 2k hp on backline

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since they have more max hp

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although i just realized fdg will get 5k hp

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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@vague token sure, but do they have more effective HP?

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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or something

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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VG has much higher eva

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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your dmg dealers are your main fleet

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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i mean we're talking ships with 2-3x as much hp anyways, and much more damage potential

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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i would posit that a 20% hp heal on ykkz is more effective hp than 20% on kaga

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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oh well foxes

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are different

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:09 PM

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even in nonfox comps

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:09 PM

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namagi/x is a much better heal recipient due to bulk

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:09 PM

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ideally you want to heal both vg and backline but vg is disposable anyways

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:09 PM

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amagi 7485 hp, 64 eva vs 3040 hp, 189 eva

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:10 PM

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189 evade doesnt mean much nowadays

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nagato boosts accuracy by existing lol

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it does against hiryuu

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:10 PM

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if you lose your backline you will most likely lose the match

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:10 PM

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taking final counter into air strike = death sentence

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yeah

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xD

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yeah when i see hiryuu i just put amagi across and force it early

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while vanguards are still up

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less stressful, and sara tanks enemy amagi fine with beaver

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pirate/comet/comet/beaver/tank

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sandyMeme

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:12 PM

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kiro mentioning sara like everytime he chats smugBucky

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:12 PM

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she gets 50 aa from her retro

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look, even i can acknowledge that sara is bad in fox matchup but good against hiryuu matchup

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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the funny thing about talking these matchups is that

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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how much flood dmg does comets give anyway

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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no

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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you don't actually fight people who any of this stuff matters against like 95% of the time

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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.6 on fire, .2 on flood

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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no i mean on actual battles

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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most of the time you just fiht people who you just crush

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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did you test

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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the flood users have a unique coefficient

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no generic

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:13 PM

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you could run basically whatever comp with the gear you have

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:14 PM

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yeah we just dont know how much, wiki doesnt say xD

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WIP lol

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:14 PM

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like whats the flood dmg with comet and with helldiver

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:15 PM

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not a lot

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the main thing is faster take off

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2 heccdiver is slooooow

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:15 PM

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should i use 381mm on both amagi and nagato or should i get them a different timing?

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:15 PM

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smugBucky

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:15 PM

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witch's prank is so wildly over statted

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that you should just launch faster

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like the base damage is crazy

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and since they're aim torps they help when it's main vs main

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:15 PM

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imagine if sara were a sakura ship

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:16 PM

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yeah that'd be the nightmare

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cause her guns would get 20% damage boost

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and reload boost

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OH NO

#

well the guns are timer based

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:17 PM

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i like using sara

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she reminds me of my newbie days

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when i buy her at day one

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smugBucky

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:17 PM

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xD

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:17 PM

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6k is not even low

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mutsukiStare

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:18 PM

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which one is Comet?

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:18 PM

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weak touchdown, weak bombs, gotta go fast

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and it's gold

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:18 PM

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nani

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comet is comet

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unicornFused

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:18 PM

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you ar elike

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0.6 seconds faster

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is it really worth it

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:18 PM

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uh it's like 2 seconds faster than heccdiver i think

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or 1.5

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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oh shit

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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they are in the sakura box

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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i looked at the common ones

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derp

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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that's how i got mine after event ended

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(visitors)

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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1.4 seconds

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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but i definitely know i got one from t4 sakura

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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you dont farm comets you recycle them

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sandyMeme

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:20 PM

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i just realized hiryuu kai doesnt just add tons of damage

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but also like

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a crazy amount of hp

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busted/10

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:20 PM

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📎 unknown.png

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:20 PM

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and 40 aa lol

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:20 PM

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this is what your'e talking about right

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:20 PM

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700 hp is a lot

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yeah that one

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more aviation for sara guns

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sandyMeme

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:21 PM

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it's only +3, so it means it's not good

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:22 PM

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i swear ppl in 200-300 ranks dont care anymore

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4 hrs noone moved

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fumizukiStare

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i lost 7 but should still get aotn

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OWARIDA

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:25 PM

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i mean if you speed run

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at reset

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xD

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maybe you can sneak it

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lytALRIGHT

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nagafoxes full torps speeeeed

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oof

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that's better than me only having kaga

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ah

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:26 PM

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did you find SP-black easy?

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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it was only hard because i did the under 8 star

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3 for clearing and 4 for boss was oof

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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might i suggest amagi for being a strong ship for pve

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wait, you could do 4 for clearing and 4 for boss?

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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it says < 8

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not <= 8

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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you can go with 8 tho

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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oh

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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you can do 6 for clearing and 6 for boss and still get < 8 deployed

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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but i found 8 ships was overkill anyway

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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nani

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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just remember to retire ur clearing fleet before fighting boss

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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wow

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and here i worked hard for 0 reasons

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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retire smugBucky

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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you worked hard cause your comp sucks

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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^

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XD

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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longcryland

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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here was my clearing fleet:
amagi - akashi - unicorn - phoenix

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no ship went below 97% hp

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at any time

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this fleet cleared absolutely every non-boss

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it was absurd really

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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amagi ykkz mogami here. Fought every elite and 3x 3* nodes

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np at all

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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i actually farmed for jintsuu with this comp too

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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ykkz was kinda useless though because amagi never dropped down below 80% hp

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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it's super good

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amagi is super strong (could use wash here too, but not quite as nice)

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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kirishima shouhou sheff jun

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fite me

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smugBucky

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:30 PM

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and the unicorn + akashi just kept everyone healed

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i think you dont even need unicorn there tbh

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i'm gonna try that tomorrow

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my boss was portland - ykkz - enterprise - doy

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they had no problem too

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but i think portland could've gone down if i had autod the boss fight

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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that's a lot of oil xD

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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taking damage

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no music

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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boss theme is good but the rest is eh

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when do we get randomized music in pvp

ionic magnet Apr 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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3 CAs renownThumbsUp

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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so we can enjoy the tunes during the slaughter

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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nox auto shuts off sounds sometime, I think it's trying to tell me something

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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or a pvp/exercise unique track

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sandyMeme

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maybe based off your comp

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or their comp

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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im gonna try akagi-chan in pvp i think

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but it'll take a while until she's ready

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i think the double air strike at the start is pretty good

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:34 PM

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it's not a real air strike

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it's an air barrage

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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I'm willing to bet shes going to perform worse than lusty LeanderXD

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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well, unlike lusty, she helps kaga still proc

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and gets a better boost from nagato

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than qe gives lusty

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because lol qe

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angryQueen

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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i'm not talking about the defensive thing

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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lusty shields ur entire vg though, instead of playing favourite uniFlex

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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i mean the fact that she laucnhes at 12 sec

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and then at normal time

modern tree Apr 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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if you are running tiny Akagi because she boosts Kaga and gets boosted by Nagato, why not just run regular sized Akagi

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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i mean the relative power between boosted lusty and boosted akagi chan is all

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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akagi-chan + kagabb

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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now if she had a real air strike at 12

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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i wish the barrage chance on these ships wasn't so terrible

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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she'd be an interesting pick

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for the invuln

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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i dont understand

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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and the huge damage

versed atlas Apr 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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@balmy torrent that's a good point

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:38 PM

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1 500 and 2 100 lol

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what are even the best air barrages

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sara/lexi guns are good

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and you cant aa them

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xD

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was it bunker hill that gets a pvp oriented air barrage?

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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oh

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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or which one

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of the essex class

shy hazel Apr 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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there are skins in black sp

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i got hai domo

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lol

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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according to just3c, her air barrage does only about the same dmg as 1 sb2c. If that's true, then it's really trash

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there are skin in every sp

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:41 PM

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doesnt she launch a barrage when it dies too?

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yeah

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how many bombs though o.o

split socket Apr 27, 2019, 11:43 PM

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can shangrila skill proc itself?

vague token Apr 27, 2019, 11:48 PM

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i cannot find the breakdown on cn wiki or maybe i cant read google translate

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xD

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

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for some reason

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the current skins do fit pvp smugBucky

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sending fuccs to ppl

stark raft Apr 28, 2019, 12:07 AM

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I wish you could equip it for barrages

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big 7 : fakkyu edition

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:07 AM

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that'd be great

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big seven sakura

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fakkyuuuuuuu

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xD

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EXCEPT THE ENTIRE SCREEN

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:07 AM

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i guess i'll be the only person around without that dumb skin

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

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hey to sme extent it has advantage

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like hiding your gears

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smugBucky

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esp on planes

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

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what u cannot tell in between he and ap dmg or something?

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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that too

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when u want to use messer but u dont want ppl judging u

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use the skin

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smugBucky

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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lol

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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the planes skin is the only thing that skins matters tbh

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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@split socket wait you mean akagi-chan's air barrage is the one you mentioned

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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yeah none of the casuals need to know about my comet tech

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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that's equivalent to one sb1c?

modern tree Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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I used plane skins when I was using Junkers smugBucky

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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top secret only for pvp channel

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dont tell anyone

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entyLUL

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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and i dont have fu shells too

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only hai domo

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lol

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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oh yeah

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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and ai planes

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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i should put fakkyu

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on my nagato

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

#

neptunia had good weapon skins

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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i dont think ill actively open kizuna boxes though

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i just got all loli ships

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still got cv kizuna to roll

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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if we get skill skins then i could put them on sara's guns

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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delivering fuccs to enemy smugBucky

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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that she screams about every 10 seconds

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sandyMeme

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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imagine losing to a meta fleet that gives a fucc

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smugBucky

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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i got fakkyu as a drop

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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i give fuccs in pvp

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not u

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sandyMeme

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

#

dear god clearing mode is nice in sp4

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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cleared sp4

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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i'm using a super high cost fleet to clear sp4

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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is boss only right

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unicornFused

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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but they're all leveling to 110 so

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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lnope

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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i guess i'll have to bite the bullet at some point

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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5 fights before boss

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but no face

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and no tiles

shy hazel Apr 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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zzz

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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but that means you get 4 big fleets for all the drops

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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leveling my cleveland and helena

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and akagi-chan and nagato

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and akashi

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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clearing mode turn the event into actual playable content

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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oh and infinite move

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i keep forgetting about that one and only moving 3 lol

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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elite don't move around in sp4

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

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warShrug

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

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recomended fleet compo for sp4 , just starting here

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:16 AM

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anyone know what is the difference in AI movement using the boiler equip from event?

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:16 AM

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been busy with house and work

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:16 AM

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if you have level 110s you're gonna use

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then use those

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if you want cheap

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:16 AM

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focus on MGM+1 if you arent gonna tap the face

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cause she locks out all of your activations

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aka no healing on take off, no guns, no torps

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etc

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:17 AM

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akashi is always a very nice ship for any clearing fleet

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:17 AM

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if she wouldn't be 11 oil cost

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:17 AM

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your akashi probably isnt level 110 anyway

modern tree Apr 28, 2019, 12:18 AM

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I am using Hood + lvl 100 minnie to clear sp4 wtf

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why do you need 4 boats

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:18 AM

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i dont have minneapolis

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:18 AM

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i'm using juneau as vg....

modern tree Apr 28, 2019, 12:18 AM

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any 110 boat will probably work

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:18 AM

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and how the hell are you using 2 ships to clear trash

#

i have cleveland and helena as frontline level 105 and 103

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and without akashi they'd be dead before 6 fights

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

minne should be fine on sp4

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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safe level helps

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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although unless you tap the face hood doesnt do much

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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if i used portland

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it'd be fine i guess

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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unless you mean clearing mode

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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also avoid shoukaku nodes

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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portland on mob fleet?

modern tree Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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I am at lethal danger atm lmao

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

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portland has a shitload of hp

#

and kills shit

ionic magnet Apr 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

im using a lv 90 kirishima and phx/sheffield smugBucky

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

but yeah

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

im planning portland + phoenix with main fleet amagi + unicorn or akashi

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

nagato, akagi-chan, cleveland, helena

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VG dies before i get 6 fights done

#

cleve and helena are 105 and 103 repsecitvely

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

helena is kinda squishy >_>

modern tree Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

using anything heavier than 1:1 for sp4 seems like so much redundancy

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

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not th epoint

ionic magnet Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

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not if youre levelling them

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

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he said he can do it with 1 VG

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and i'm calling bullshit

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especially on lethal

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

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if the threat level is 0 , i think just3c said u can use 1:1

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

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okay maybe if you play a specific ship AND manual

modern tree Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

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I am doing it right now, want me to record it?

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

with what

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

aka no face tapping, yeah that's literally vanguard soloing everything

#

it's gonna take forever

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

the only hard thing in sp4 are fusou production ships

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

Gunboats and timed barrages, friend

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

well with what

#

specific ships and what level

#

because like he said

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

Any 1 CA+1 CL gunboat (good ones ofc), then Washington, easily

shell heron Apr 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

I also ran 1:2 with Tirpitz with Port kai/Yukikaze all lvl 110 for lethal clears

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

the fusous just murder the VG on auto

#

or rather

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

lolwut not really

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

the VG murders itself

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

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they don't take so much that it's an issue

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

^

#

sure they do

#

you have like

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

#

especially at lv110

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

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5 fights

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if one takes off 20%

#

they're dead

modern tree Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

#

ima record it, hold on

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

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3 of those don't have them

shell heron Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

#

I just took a +9 testing against Famine's def fleet warShrug

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

#

rip

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

#

at most 2 fights with Fusou productions to fight

#

I even do 3 because fleet can handle it

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

#

noob question : kill all the mobs on sp4 those that mean i have to kill the " shokaku"

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

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for 6 fights total

shell heron Apr 28, 2019, 12:24 AM

#

yes

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:24 AM

#

ain't nobody got time to take the long way around

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

#

i saw the path around but never bothered lol

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

#

0 ammo one of the corner minibosses is easy

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

#

there's a path around?

#

i just go through the middle

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

#

you can do 5 fights instead of 6

zenith tundra Apr 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

#

on the left side

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

#

doesnt long path subject you to airstrikes tho

#

i guess less oil usage

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

#

those do like 2% each

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

#

those dont do much

#

you just gotta tap more

#

mildly annoying

#

but if you're 1:1 you only get like 2 move probs

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

#

ain't nobody got time to wait on that shite

#

just bulldoze through shoukaku

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

#

choo choo sink her

#

just attack takao first and clear red alert

#

then use green status and sink shoukaku

#

minne can sustain on the level 3 blocking top left

#

and then corner elites should be easy

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:28 AM

#

thats AIRI AKIZUKI = GLOWWORM laffeyDrink

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:29 AM

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god that face

#

every time

elder crane Apr 28, 2019, 12:30 AM

#

We need it as a discord emote

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:33 AM

#

you know how they could've made this event 10x more annoying?

#

instead of the face appearing

#

they could've just left us with the old system

#

like in the story mode

#

move around, get attacked

cerulean estuary Apr 28, 2019, 12:33 AM

#

PUT lvl 110 BB nagato's and mutsu's on every node , even if its 1 star

versed atlas Apr 28, 2019, 12:34 AM

#

115

#

make it 115

vague token Apr 28, 2019, 12:34 AM

#

why must you do this to us

#

if that happened id actually run hiei-chan