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that's that for now damn there's a lot of ship analysis I'll finish the rest later
is york used in pvp? i haven't seen her at all
yorktown? yeah a PVE ship
@buoyant parrot that was my explanation, idk why the name changed
np i just changed it
for those who has insights for the other ship girls please do send your DM's to me. I'll add it for you instead so it wont crap the format of the Ship Analysis
I can't find a challenging defense for my Namahyuu
is aurora's effect that impactful?
omg 12 ships to go lol I'll do the rest later lol
@blazing scroll have you ever seen my defense?
Show me 
Owh yea, I did
how did it go
god damn it




come to avrora 
how many people are on sandy here?

Still using Amagi, Nagato and Akagi and it's still damn good. Compared to Hiryuu, you're sacrificing the stall at the end for early damage with the single early strike. But it's often enough to finish off vanguards after torps and after Amagi has already blown a hole in them with her early hit. Even by herself Akagi is still strong and rivals Amagi in MVP. It's almost always Akagi and Amagi in the 20k range with Nagato with 10k unless Nagato got multiple sakura procs.

I'm on Sandy
People underestimate how strong a single fox is with Nagato. They're still a force to be reckoned with. I'd argue the set up is nearly as good as Hiryuu until she gets her retrofit and allows faster wins.

damn this Season is hard as AF... but I'm sure after this season those who tried going for the top end season will give up on the next one ๐
they thought they can be Gensuis ๐
you gotta sanbag hardoor...
Wait for kizuna event
If she has her own map
Hope gear skin drops too
BB ai shells for pvp
wait are u actually expecting anything good?
Nep equip skins are one of the good things in Nep event
Kizuna having a close feel to Neps can probably have that too
idk what people find interesting about gear skins 
it's just hilarious to see them shoot dogoos and (+) buttons 
and some people get bored seeing usual shells over and over and over again
im bored of pvp

i should start working on that sandbag guide
so i can pass the legacy of incompetent sandbagging to some other people

this discord needs a #al-general2 and a #al-general3
literally everyone
NANI 

why are you telling me to stop sandbagging
is this the conspiracy to make me stop so you can have less sandbag opponents
Can't really show off when in avrora cause the majority has it too 
Can't show off my Avrora when she becomes public ho soon
show off your JP account with 6 maxed PR instead

i have a jp account but well
i find it funny when ppl from jp flex their ships in en channel
like anyone cares
newbies might
if they don't know what EN has and what does not have
perfect trolling opportunity

personally i think these people who want fdg in en server is like
naive
lol
when you realize you need to grind some german ships and do the 3.6m

i am just glad i farmed 2 copies of each BC at chess board
I am quite conflicted right now. I'm spending a lot of oil on leveling Nagato... right before the PR ships.
you should realize
pr ships are only useful 1 month at max
3 months at normal
levels of research farming
assuming u can spend 20k gold per day on getting ship bps
Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying there.
pt ships have 2 tiers of farming
the ship construction itself then
the strengthening part
construction i can probably rush in the 170 hours timeframe
other one is time gated
ohhh, they don't LB? TIL
u can lv them until 120
but lol
they have shit skills and stats
until u strengthen them to like
30lb
level lb and strength lb is different
in theory u can get all 6 pr ships
in lets say
4-6 months
but all of them wont have max strengthening

maybe only 2-3 ships are max strengthened
tl;dr PR ships require extensive resource and time investment to make them usable, unlike normal ships which you can rush to 100 in a few days, then a few days for 110/120, leveling their skills at the same time
20k gold per day
I see.
spam 7-2
whale
so, what's recommended for PvP? Saint-Louis? Monarch? Ibuki?
the only ship worth maxing in PR atm is nep for pvp purposes
best is nep for tanking and monarch if you want hms or BB back line
depends on you
ill still do monarch first because shes the most useful
๐
then do louis then roon then nep
if my plan is to do nagato and amagi in pvp then would Saint-Louis be best?
yeah
shes a staple in jp a long time ago like that yea
and roon has shield and dps
if u really want to focus on current meta
and use pr ship
u should prioritize any vanguard
im just gonna go backline because well
best for pvp is nep since zombie
saint is just speed + eva
we dont evne know when 120 will even come
doesn't Louis also hit like a truck?
not that she's more suitable for PvP because of that
i was thinking that neptune might also be worth it, because of her usefulness in pve
irrelevant since VG job is to stall not to deal dps
since backline damage is prioritized anyway
meta has always been back line

two 1.2k commissions: 10k gold.
merchant: 7.2k gold per 24h
It's very easy to get 20k gold every 24 hours

i still need to grind them factional ships
so it wont happen in the first 3 months
until i finish building all 6 ships
7-2 farming should yield more, so that's good then
rather than go full oil saver monkey
for the same amount of oil
so what's an HMS fleet lineup for pvp
build order for me is roon > louis > monarch > ibuki > nep > izumo
altho max order might be diff depend on which i prioritize
with PR ships
who instead of QE? DoY?
hood or doy
@finite valve why Roon first?
waifu mate
hmm
not everyone is a try hard pvp
maybe i should build roon too
especially when my ingame name is RoonRoon
i see some people go Nagato - Amagi - Hyuuga right now in pvp
is that better than BB Kaga?
baga is a niche
Not a fan of three BBs. Just like wasda, it's slow
i still manage to beat that comp on a daily basic w/o having to reset so i don't really care
nagato is too paper
always first to die
LMFAO
With BB Kaga, it's not too bad on match time since triple barrage
But then you have to be a master coinflipper
Hmm, what would you guys say is the average distance in AL units from your vanguard to the enemy main fleet?
how do u measure AL units lol
Gun range units, speed units, and AA range units are all the same in AL, iirc
Wait torps can tell us
your van just barely sometimes hits magtorps
what's the range on magtorps again?
in game the quad mag is 52 range
That's definitely a lie
Cause that's shorter range than CL/DD secondaries, which don't shoot at your vanguard

60 for DD, 65 for CL gun targeting range
maybe torp range is differently measured idk lmao
Nah, AL in-game just lies on range stats 
well idk whats the real range value anyway 
the furthest one is normal quad torp with 60 range ingame
For actual CL/DD gun ranges
Which are completely(ish) different from ingame values for whatever goddamn reason 
can someone explain how a team of ijn has their vanguards survive lucky e, cuz i always find it bullshit when it happens
Enterprise in 2019 
air strikes are sad against light armour vanguards imo
Triple DD vanguard = what airstrike?
Double IJN DD, Namagi, Belfast = foxes? More like ez win
Haloist you need good AA Ships
Get a better comp
AA Ships at least lessen the damage taken
I advise getting used to it considering we are in the meta of 40% chance to lose the game
im using wasde + bel jun yuki
specially if you have Anti-Air Skill
so i quite literally hav no fucking idea y dis kinda shit keeps happening
its pretty annoying
A good one to start with is Juneau
Who r u using
or Clevebro
i stated my fleet above
can't wait for sandokai
im fine with it not wiping if i dont keep getting hit as well
pretty much just a fuck you to my face
i mean, essugee + lucky E = crippled
Wasde kind of needs Helena nowadays imho. Very far behind on damage
Just run Juneau Helena Ykkz, win cuz rolling dice
well i can try but helena is 101 rn so
use nagiyu in offense so that u can reset more easily 
my enterprise is 108
the other 2 are 110
is nanoda better than belfap against kitsune?
well she's just lv99 ffs
You only need to reset with Nagiyu vs the mirror
Everything else is easy rolling
nagato is 98, hiryuu is 95... nanoda is 99.. why am i cursed.. also, what do you run with nanoda in a hiryuu fleet?
can you run eldridge by any chance?
Bel and Juneau usually
eldridge is not gonna survive long in an akaga infested world
Maybe Sheff over Bel, but idk on that one
eldridge slow speed is kind of overlooked
it's impact on her squishiness is actually quite high
I reset my nakaga vs Amagi with foxes once cuz nobody dealt any damage and I died to 4 strikes of plane suicide 
I fucking hate rng comps
Plus, question would be, why Eld?
What exactly does it help against that you don't already steamroll?
For offense, the only thing Namayu needs to build against, win-% wise, is mirror Namagi-type teams
Nothing else I've encountered challenges really
same here
namaryuu full on stomps any other fleet
and even with bad RNG, just wins
nakaga is the biggest risk it appears so far
but even then nakaga is just not better than namaryuu
Sandbag guide 
reroll washington. play like normal sandbag if u want. get gensui
Miss 4 matches, sandbag way back up to only about 15 pts behind where usually would be
Then miss another match and facepalm 
Though idk how sad I'm about it anymore
do you usually try to get max value out of every game
or do like 2-3 one after the other?
i caught myself 5 mins before reset last night and started spammed my games
and left midway to clean my bathtub, came back and forgot about spamming my games
Early-on, hot time for catching people climbing is right after reset

isn't it tiring to keep reopening the app to see the real rank though
I tend to refresh list/play a match 5, 15, 30, 50 mins after a reset or so
I don't bother with intentionally sandbagging. Sandy is casual enough where you just need to win every match to gensui
By now though, few rush anymore, and it's 50/50 between the hour before reset and the hour after
in terms of getting bonus points
tfw i lost 4 games because people at work phoned me and i forgot i was losing
if you've been keeping up, getting more than+1 after commodore rank is a pipe dream
Need to be at more than 5/10 to catch people the hour before though, usually
If you haven't dropped matches ofc
8/10 or more matches left usually to catch someone to get a +1 for the hour before reset
im at sandy, i just sandbag less when the win reward is +10
Meanwhile I can be #1 right now if I ran all my attempts with 4 more attacks spare ๐
sandbagging at its finest in Avrora
too lazy to sandbag all the time, i prefer hunting for the exp after gensui 
how can you even wait that long
because Avrora is Harcoooooooooor
Non-Avrora servers don't really need a lot of sandbag if you don't drop matches usually
or even sandbag at all, maybe
too many hardcores in avrora ๐ฆ
Just a bit of sandbag and a well-timed rush is still all that's needed for Avrora
if it's just top 10 you need to enter once
2 more hours before refresh
the real question is why the fuck i got every single purple off 11-3 but no sendai
oh no Hiei-chan
I have a sinking feeling we'll get two concurrent limited/temp constructions
Riot enough, and maybe devs will give compensation
please let it be on the Special Build SO I CAN GET DAMN SUBS!!!!!!
wait that's hiei?
like they did for CN/JP when they had two concurrent construction events
isn't zeppy in special?
is she gonna have a tank skill still or something completely different lol
what's the best offensive fleet? nakaga sendai jintsuu nanoda?
@coral wren Check EN TierList
zeppy and hiei seem to be in special, judging by how they should come in jp
answer is already there
the PVP en guide or?
its just the kizunas we arent sure of
i didn't understand that one quite well tbh
Zeppy supposedly in special
Hopefully KizAI isn't cons, or is in special too

why isnt this one pinned 
i didn't understand it that well, sorry, but the aripanda one was easier
the kizunas will most likely be builds cause they wanna succ our money by making 3 additional kizunas
lots of builds imo. i think maybe 1 kizuma is free but rest construction
I don't quite understand why you can't understand it... There's already like WORDS on it explaining how its effective X___x
its either theyll be in limited, or they join specials for a limited time like zeppy/hiei
what part abt it you dont understand?
every meta that's currently RELEVEANT us of late is there with its viable Vanguard Options for you to choose from 
Etherstar, sorry but please shut up on it
oh it's not this one https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BuOeLLjXKP-OGhXlN8V5yT7_19tgmvzHKwSU7y2O_KM/edit?usp=sharing
i've thought you linked that one
i can't understand that one tbh
that's for results ๐
that has like alot of old data from lvl 100
oh alright
oops
wrong link
this one is your friendly guide supposedly
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BglmSOaD1ec8zc6bKwiItf2OcQueoRNxF3UGzlQnHBU/edit#gid=0
if something confuses you by all means let us know so we can work around it
we should ask someone to pin the tierlist 
makes no sense to have the reset testing pinned but not that one. Erebus could just edit his pinned post to include it
which is more effective, sendai kai or aurora?
it depends on your backline
you have to consider your synergy
and some use them at the same time
if i'd pick one ill go with aurora just because shes more consistent
im surprised they went with hiei-chan considering they renamed bel chan 
I don't think it's wise to rely too much on fox damage by using both Aurora and Sendai together. Belfast is a big cockblock to that. If foxes fail to kill the vanguard right away they're at major disadvantage because they get torn apart by BB shells
original argument was its an english game so no japanese honorifics allowed
u wouldn't use chan as a native english speaker would u
faction based naming convention is not really anything bizarre
but
i kinda dont give a shit now anyway
also, I'd not run Sendai without Aurora cuz torp buff needs -eva to count for anything
we already got all the current jp announcements, i think thats all we will have lol
and if you are running it just for the flare, it's kinda bad
no uss loli 
and the latest jp announcement so far is the an shan skin i think?

sandy chan: boost all atlanta class AA


an chan skin is on CN
what to use on south dakota, 410mm or 406?
I'd roll with a 410
faster reload and better chance to hit stuff
406 only advantage is that it can more easily hit vg
I encountered the problem that both washy and SD had the 406 and whenever they fired their barrage, enty would lucky e
Which was such bs
so 410 is better?
@zenith tundra for equip, should there be names for the guns?
i put in something just to show what it mean
it should be on top tho
except for ykkz, ur other vg looks a bit on the low side as well so that's to be expected
idk, my other VG does about that amount of damage
they very often just go down quickly
but the main fleet still overwhelms the opponent often
@zenith tundra pop in a bismarck instead of enterprise
oh wait that would conflict with tirpitz
hmmmmmmmm
yeah that's how it usually goes
not even my juneau died
kinda of barrage based
way too slow team. before enty and graf do anything they are already at a disadvantage
unless zeppy is broken i don't see kms going anywhere yet
is hyuuga actually used in pvp
She's being experimented with
i use her
probably not the best option in slot, but is definitely good it seems
I use her on offense, only oathed, not even full geared
no barrages makes Hyuuga slow
I have Hiryuu maxed, but Hyuuga is fun to use 
Hyuuga defs more applicable for PvE too, yeah
Same as when people ran North Carolina. Thee extra fp boost is nice but it doesn't make matches faster.
Same thing for KagaBB, maybe
much easier to farm XP on
Just anywhere
Only poorish PvE ship is Juneau
But I found a use for her in ch 10/11
holy shit 2 golden bofors blueprints in a single finish
if the vg ship isnt shit, I use Penny with firework/ap gun
yup
I use w11 to train vanguard. Lots of xp to leech
Amagi/Phoenix/Juneau in ch11
Barrage BB/same-fl in ch10
or Arizona if the ship is actual garbage
at safe ofc
is it a good idea to use oxy on jintsuu?
i'd use one on jintsuu and one on "sendai", should i ever get her
i wouldn't compare nc to hyuuga... hyuuga buffs nagato and amagi dmg while nc buff aa. i think there is a big difference
lol someone put up a Namagi/Hood comp with suicide torps VG after I had that as my defense yesterday. I wonder if it caused any losses/resets. its actually pretty decent against stall VG based comps.
"113 provides AA stats and faster trigger for her barrage."
is this suppose to be twin 100 instead? (sirius)
113 
I've been using Namagi+DoY and so far I havent found a comp that can beat it 
"113"
yeah they mean 110
this is a real randomass fleet
at first i thought this guy mistakenly thought that saratoga was an IJN ship due to the name
but looking at the VG... i have no idea
i'm not sure
but considering how my mogami didnt die within like the first 30 seconds, that fleet seems to suck
i dont understand the frontline
Yeah, I've seen both Sarakai and Enty in Namagi flex slot
Maybe they don't have a IJN to put there?
That one in particular doesn't have a Juneau either, suggesting maybe they haven't leveled the PvE-only ships
I am always sleeping
that is @vague token fleet and he just likes sara
Almost 4 hours since reset and I still can't move yet 
fighting Namagi with HMS is just gambling on whos BBs are better at hitting the VG
you will roll the comp 3 times, then just get crushed a couple of times, then continue rolling it, and there is no patten to it other than "you hit the first shots on the VG"
I have never had less fun
yeah this meta is pretty dumb. nakaga meta would have been more tolerable than this shit.
NAkaga is so easy to beat
in nakaga mirror you could change equips to increase win rates but namagiryuu meta is just bullshit rng.
i would use ryuusei just to have better chances on defense lol
ryuuseis on defesne are worse though
i dont think it is against nakaga
you use them on offense cause they nuke VG due to battle being closer to your side.
you ever face a fleet using ryusei, its just underwhelming
Never liked using ryusei in PvP. They lock on to the VG's last location and one can only hope the VG moves back there or a main fleet ship is in the path of the torps
Or just watch them all fly vertically off the map
nakaga wins vg almost always i dont see a point on trying to contest that
well this is pretty easily calculatable
2 scenarios:
- enemy VG
- no enemy VG
and test scenario 2., total difference in touchdown dmg vs. difference if all torps land
considerations: cuda has more HP, and lands at least 1/3 torps that it shoots
if we can calculate that ryuusei at least does more in sce. 2., then we have an argument
because sce 1. ryuusei whiffs torps IMO half the time
Against any reasonable defense comps, I don't see scenario 2 happening often. A good VG can take 2 air strikes before going down. If I need 3, I'll probably reset.
also, I swer BB Kaga barrage not only is a fucking coinflip, it also picks a random target and says "fuck you in particular" then unloads like half of the projectiles on them no matter where they fucking are
it just sniped a ship across from her for no fucking reason
anyone has namaryuu def to test out? i havent found maxed namaryuu after jojo one
whats the JP meta
ws + stuff for now till pr2 max dev level after 
im trying to make a fleet w the research ships
or smth
just something that will bring me high up i nrankings
yknow
so many...
meta with pr ships most likely fdg + ws kai + hiryuu or whatever if i have to guess
what about fl
im 7 behind i cant meet anything
2.4x hp in pvp?
2.34

ur dumb sara is
i wonder if kamijou or silverisno use
will move
i believe they're also sandbaggers but rushes to like
top 10 evertime
score check?
lol
secret
lmao
1688 6/10
1701 6/10
zack outplaying me 
yes, i told a very sad story last night
im just doing my attempts before i forget to do another 3
o
my casual sandbagging still pays off hey
my brains getting old (?)
lol
1675 thats kamitaโs score
that's probably 10/10 for kamita
that looks low for kamitas standards
Eveyone is low
which is so slow
when seasons are so slow people tend to lose more charges
which makes it slower
cos sandbagging too much
@lament lichen what is your score
if youre near kamita like that
i guess u in that range too
higher than kamita 
@ionic magnet did u get
yet?
nope
at this point i already accepted i wont get her 
Last day be optimistic
Bless your build
rolled about 350 cubes now
i dont think it is. hiei is a jp ship so its fine for her to have chan while belchan is a hms ship so she should have something more british not weeb stuff in her name

Actually jap name or not it's not allowed in professional translation but well
they did it anyways
oh i get it now
it in this case, it's a name rather than a sentence kind of thing
but well, that's like
looking for loopholes
o.O
are there actual ppl that play a weeb game and don't know what chan means?
๐ hey
there is
i was shocked when my completely normal cousin in japan was playing a weeb game
cos its mainstream
lol

i should apply for translator for azurlane en
problem is if they're doing chinese -> english
i dont know chinese
tbh i fail to see the problem. already #game-feedback is under lockdown because of the subject lol
oof
in my case, its just technical
because im a business japanese translator
its a casual game anyways so its fine i guess
lol
Im bored of my job
who isnt't bored of working?
if i accidentally carry over -san or -sama in the documents im translating
id be in the streets tomorrow

but thats business for you
the japanese translation into english is well known to be extremely liberal and full of holes

shiranui, kaga, belfast
etc.
tons of them have terrible translations
somebody bring up the screenshot where Belfast is saying stuff in broken english
and apparently, unless if the translation is the complete OPPOSITE of what the ships are saying
the "translation is not wrong"
"it's an artistic twist"
"it's up for interpretation"
like no it's fkin not, the translation is just wrong
tbh i think they just ran out of ideas
hiei-y
little hiei
hiette
they all sound just wrong
but they should have named little zep that way also
yea
but they didnt so they setup a new precedent
casus belli to now name a ship hiei chan
well its just a name of a ship i wont use anyways
zeppy would look out of place if they named it little hiei
so yea hiei chan looks less wrong
i'm pretty sure
now you wont have nagato too
hire us yostar
hey atleast i have an excuse now to use off meta fleets

im still waiting for that sweet +13 pts but so far nothing even if im this far behind

go to 0/10 and then wait 1 reset out
Heyyy look another namaryuu
good luck with that

ur 7 behind why would u even care about that
what's worth testing against this guy...
should i run ryuusei vs cuda?
maybe i'll do 10 games with ryuusei, 10 games with cuda
so we get more data on which TB is better
his vg fp looks low
his vg dies so fast
6 boilers maybe 
yea not sure
oh that guy
worth testing still i think
yea, that's the problem with oxy YKKZ
i did that test before, no good results
rip
alright i'll test it YOLO
tatsuya also lost charges
10 games
you should have a 90% win rate
i dont see him moving from rank 250
no extinguisher on ykk? that's heresy
i didnt even have my skill proc and i just killed him pretty easily
they cant burn her if shes dead 

wasnt toolbox better on her. i lost the patch notes where everyone switched from toolbox to fe
Atha (Nagato, amagi, Kaga BB | Belfast, jintsuu, YKKZ) 13.6/14.1
current fleet (nagato, amagi, hiryuu | belfast, juneau, YKKZ) 13.4/13.1
game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
fuck me i accidentally won
OMG almost gave me a heart attack I started attack in PvP @ :53 IT'S 7mins to reset... Good thing I finished it

people really sandbags now
famine should be at 1725
well anyways, overall conclusion, these games are actually quite close - kaga BB is a really strong alternative to hiryuu provided she procs, and i'm pretty sure my winrate would be worse if he used juneau
Damn I was sooooo scared right now
it would be closer if he didnt use oxy torp meme
Worth it!!!
idk my namahyuu is 14.1k
this paladin guy
and no oath on hyuuga

Sandbagging in its ultimate form
famine also with a +1
only 1725? wild
nice season to lose attempts. at least i dont have to deal with no bonuses
session so messed up
Always tends to get bonuses so far... Just +1 though
its like +1 on average
Is Famine still at 5/10?
he should be 10/10
im rank 35 wiht 10/10
Omg
lol
i can already see all +9 last 5 attempts lol
Never had a single lost and I'm at 115
gonna get too close to thte top at this rate
And my sleep everyday is like 3 hours or so coz of it
find a better hobby
If I didn't live in optimal time zone I don't think i'd bother sandbagging to the point of messing up my sleep
its actually hard not to do it at least for me. that if i dont lose attempts

that looks like a nightmare lol
time to use junkers on hiryuu for faster launch time 
Again, Juneau resists her fate
at this point might as well remove her from fleet if she doesnt die
I'll say it again, by far this is the most hardest season.
Etherst, you won't see me move for a while. It's been half an hour and my left most person is ranked below me.
X__x
cant get anything higher than +1 anyways
mfw only rank 1 can give me +1
At this point its a battle of how to avoid +9
My rank 1 will still give me +0
Did math wrong, It's +1 being only 38 points ahead of me
last season wasn't that great either
Yeah but that's fucked up in the first place
i expect next season to be the same
kizuna with pr zulul
pvp hardcores are also pve hardcores
This season everyone suddenly wants to sandbag and be tryhards
maybe ppl are getting tired of fucked up seasons and decide to forget it
Well having to build pr ship early has its advantages after a few months
Specially in PvP you get to annoy a lot of weakling plebs
Like I said few months lol... You get to see them in action 2-3 months
I doubt the Kizuna Ai ships will be meta changing as well, given Yostar's decent track record
Secret SSR Purifier 
We only got one from one of the collab and it's pathetically weak just Esthetic
But still sort of useful
last reset i was gifted an extra +1 by matchmaker
the thing is
i was like 
its proven that pvp gets so slow when there are events
trash or not
lol
so i just expect next season to be the same
kizuna is in the next patch with little bel right?
do we have any ideas on the kizuna skills?
trash probably
lets just hope they lose all the data for kizuma collab
or all trash like most collab
lol
xD
some people defended uta collab ships have good skills
if the kizuna collab has good skills ill 
muh neptunia ships getting disrespected
ill
if i dont have to waste 200 cubes on 1 ship like nep event
lol
thing is
are small ships
gacha or not

if they combine kizuna and small ships events in the same pool
chaos will ensue
you know its far worse to run a double banner
in what they do in jp
limited got nagato
heavy got mikasa
lul
There is no chaos only ๐ณ
id rather have 0 kizuma (why the hell there are more then 1 in the 1st place) then 0 of any small ship
im curious what hiei will have
since base hiei is pretty meh
but if smol hiei has a better shield or durability
she could be like ijn sodak
with namagi
im more interested to see how bad zeppy is tbh
extra bad
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belchan was average
maybe the little 2 wont be that bad
the thing is
belchan was special
the only frontline that heals over time
Well big Bel is good so it's okay belchan is average
or maybe they will be worse then kizuma
Apparently Graf is pathetic
So having to see zeppy is extra weak
Won't surprise me at all
i mean if german planes had 500 pound bombs
theyre only elites anyways
on the fighters
and better dives
she'd be a defensive version of other fighter/dive/dive carriers
although it'd be better if it worked on all ships probably
for zeppy i mean
so she can be worse then big zep
Yosh!!! Work about to start in 4mins however judging on my ticket boards I have nothing to do that means SLEEP!!! My sleep has been bonkers coz of this pvp season 
oh boi
zeppy should also get +50% eff on german fighters for more memes
is it better to use hyuuga kai with namagi or hiryuu? 
hiryuu bis for 3rd namagi. hyuuga is fun to use if u like to see nagato barrage soloing opponent team
how bout yama hk? shes like on par with hyuuga kai isnt she?
its ok with hyuuga but still a 3 bb comps and if u dont proc u can lose
yama and fusou are worse bbv then ise hyuuga
no like, half kai, keeping them BB
at that point hk hyuuga is better because of the buff
i use hyuuga for pvp and hardly ever came close to resetting
i dont rlly have BiS for hyuuga, nor for nagato rn tbh.. need plates and gold SG
maybe we'll get shells next month. at least should remove some sgs
guess i'll hold my plans of snagging skyrocket for speed memes 
at that point use german me fighter at least gives more aviation
skyrocket is fastest plane 
and also totally useless
exactly
id rather buy t5 boxes for cranes then waste core data on that plane lol
oh another question, is amakaga still viable?
not sure but it should lose to namaryuu and wasda. idk about other matchups tbh
viable yes
hm.. i'll try go up against namagi + hyuuga kai then
i just got nagato yesterday so im still using amakaga

from @ionic magnet tests against my namagi hyuuga amakaga had a 16-4 score
im using ykk, aurora, and belfast as my amakaga vanguard rn, should be fine..
im struggling with getting into the top 1k in washington server tho somehow.. idk
so hyuuga namagi on offense but hiryuu on defense?
and use 381mm on nagato in hopes that barrahe proc
not sure on offense but im p sure hiryuu cant be any worse than hyuuga. prolly just the same
also are you sandbagging properly? should be easy to get top 1k
stella guide when 
amakaga is still fine cos rn very few peeps has maxed namagi but even in the future it will still be fine as long you have patience to reset 
i dont understand this reset thing
like, leave the match?
yep
i have always assumed it takes the exercise attempts >.>
you dont lose any charge so can repeat all you want
now i shouldnt complain bout amagi not procing after 4 shellings
oof thats rough now you can do top 1k 

+0 this reset ๐คท
i think im 100 points down from rank 1 in washington rn, and i used all of my attempts alrdy
100 points down from the current rank 1. Top rankers are always sandbaggers that don't show up til 2-3 days before the season ends for that sweet AoTN merit
http://prntscr.com/ng1n7c skipped 3 charges+didn't sandbag properly
im out
I'll probably attempt nakaga for a bit..
I'll be using namagi + hyuuga I guess. Having that 70% barrage proc rate on Amagi got me spoiled. That 40% on Nagato now feels real unreliable
in namagi hyuuga if nagato doesn't proc usually amagi carries. if both take a break u most likely still win against non maxed comps











