#pvp | Azur Lane Official | Page 252

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Yeeeeep, ish

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:12 AM

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yee it can be replaced by namagi but

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namagi is also t0...

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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but foxes are reliant on nagato buff for t0

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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and so is wasd

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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SadLily

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real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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i am thinking, based on our continued tests of namaryuu vs nakaga, namaryuu might edge out really

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so it might be a t0.5

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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can foxes be t0 without that 20% dmg buff?

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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20% dmg reduction buff *

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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namagi variants eventually hardoutclass nakaga

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but

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you guys dont have all the pieces

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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if yes then what are they with the buff t-1

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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that make namagi t0 yet

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so foxies still t0 for EN

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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i think even now, namaryuu with prekai hiryuu

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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Bigger diff imo is lv 110 vs lv 120

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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will beat nakaga

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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it's still pretty buff though and you'll easily destroy any fox comp with hiryuu

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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no reliable tanks in frontline + no hiryu kai or taihou

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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Based on the earlier HP diffs

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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right now namagi and nagaka are pretty evenly matched

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but that will come to pass

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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And how CVs scale down with levels

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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yea it's definitely not landslide victory for namaryuu

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that's why i said edge out

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Akaga returns to the field once you get warspite k tho

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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i mean in favor is still better lol

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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qtpGOOD

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Welll......
It kinda is landslide, ish?

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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they dont fall off entirely

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bealaugh

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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a lot of things show up when ws kai shows up

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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As is it always wins, pretty much, as offense

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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both OP and freedom

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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from our tests namaryuu wins easily against nakaga while nakaga struggles a bit vs namaryuu

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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lv 120 I think will be the tipping point

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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120 is when nakaga becomes irrelevant

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SadLily

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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me and zack were goign back and forth for testing

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we both tried namaryuu and nakaga fleets

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Large HP diff from 110->120, and CVs get weaker relatively with more lvs from how aviation dmg scales

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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my answer is namaryuu is definitely stronger than foxes overall

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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curse u guys for actually having meta fleets to test against

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JP def fleets are all trash

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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a non kai hiryuu soloed my whole backline from like 30%+ hp

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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SadLily

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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i mean

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1.5 torp bomber efficiency

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no retro

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so yeah

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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once u get 818

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the hiryyy utility

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so cozy

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Hecc Hiryuu teams vs Amkaga without Nagato were already doing well

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Amagi fires 2nd

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when Hiryuu launches with 818

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so now frontline is slowed

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for BB shots

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zoistare

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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owo

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pity sara has 2 dive slots

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X_x

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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~~if you run ryuusei on solo hiryuu tho you're actually wintrading~~

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Ryuusei all the way ok my hiryuu. Never once uEd cud xD

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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don't int my games thanks

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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I just hate the RNG on Ryuuseis

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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i mean

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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ryuusei damage on solo hiryuu is a meme

would much rather the utility and consistency

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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ryuusei after vg death feels really amazing to clear backlines

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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later on ryuusei is for killing backlines

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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ryuusei on Wabbit + Warspite kai

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is legit

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the point of ryuusei is to secure earlier deletions

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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like assuming every ship has equal weight for target

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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to ensure numbers advantage

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but solo hiryuu without her buff

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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you got a 50% chance to nuke a backline out of existence

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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will never pull that off

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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that's jp meta

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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even vs nagato who has piss Air defense

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the only time you put ryuusei on Hiryuu is in Wabbits pair

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cuz the buff you get lets you smack people

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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we aren't 120 yet

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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It also deals more dmg if torps land, since barras land few torps

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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ryusei are only worth it if they can ohko enemy flagshit

otherwise no good

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also why I put 818 on my Taihou

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if you're running a solo CV, almost always better to make them a utility bot

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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kek centaur

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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centaur LUL

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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ye, that's what i thought so too

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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tho with WSK her meta positioning got shifted out actually

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because of how WSK plays

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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except centaur actually does more damage than cvs based on mechanics LOL

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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centaur is now "only" t1

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:22 AM

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whoever came up with that damage chart for pvp scares me

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xD

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yeah

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but then, lets make a cvl

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with the same stats

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as a retro CV

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and give them REALLY good utility

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like ark royal

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sandyMeme

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Pretty sure it was decided before lv 110
So, someone decided CAs at lv 100 were too good for PvP LeanderXD

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:23 AM

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xD

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Reload was too

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And AA was completely reworked at some point too

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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idk how evasion scaling used to work

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but it was pepega such that everyone just ran double reloader

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goldenlul

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Reload iirc used to not have the square root

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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it was a really early mechanic change

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but CN got jebaited

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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linear reload what

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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everyone bought not acc equipment

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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that's a yikes

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Not sure if JP even ever saw the original reload

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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because there was no need

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goldenlul

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and then eva scaling patch hit

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Pepega

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 1:25 AM

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they reworked aa and it still is so bad lol

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:25 AM

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idk cvs do super well vs trash now

but they big sucko mode vs bosses still

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UniSip

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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So you know how we can combine blue retrobps into purple ones?
Apparently that was from whining by CN players early on
Imagine what hell that would be, no combining blue retrobps

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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oh god

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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~~tbh I never needed to use that~~

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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The mechanics behind CVs are causing the issue

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With higher lv/more stats, most other stuff offset

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More dmg from FP/Torp/Aviation, more HP

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More Evasion, more Hit

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Then Aviation also gets dred from AA

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Which has no counterbalance

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:28 AM

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cvs also dont get a dps option outside of skills, they're almost all long recharge exclusive

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unlike bb guns which have fast, medium, and trash

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quad balance when

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sandyMeme

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Oh god, where'd they just target closest, right?

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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xD

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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so they'd all unload on the same random mob half the time

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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tbh

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i liked that behavior only for

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when you're running a supp CVL

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like Uni

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or what's her face

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Langely?

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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shouhou?

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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cuz it cleared the trash off the screen

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so your BB then focus the threats

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wish there was a toggle

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for DB AI

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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personally id just like to see dog fighting

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boost dive bomber damage, make them single target and come out constantly

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if contested by a fighter

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they cant accurately drop their bomb

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torp bombers work like now

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drop and flee

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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torp bomber aiming is a fucking joke

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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and actually aim

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then take away all fighter bombs

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and just change their dog fighting

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xD

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torps are the burst, dives are the constant damage

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eg "guns"

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but dives can be countered by taking damage so their aim is off

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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never forget

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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and that pairs well with the aa which is spreading air damage

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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a 100lb bomb has about a 12% chance of hitting a specific target

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sandyLul

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:33 AM

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lol yeah

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then we could normalize dive aoes

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make them like faster ASW bombs

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:33 AM

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tho it's a bit higher in reality cuz hitboxe sizeing

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but still

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it's abysmal

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:34 AM

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but obviously that kind of overhaul would be way too difficult

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xD

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as fun as it would be

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:46 AM

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dw mini graf will break the pvp meta again

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trust

lament lichen Apr 20, 2019, 1:48 AM

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didnt roon get changed so she has shields at the start now

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Need to invest 165 more bps for that, but yes

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and likely will not come for EN on PR1 release

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it was mostly added so ppl shut up about excess PR ship bps being useless
Or so I hear

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:50 AM

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meta breaker incoming KappapHD

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shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 1:51 AM

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technically there was 0 reason for graf to be a big oneesan

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:51 AM

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isnt she just so people who missed events have a backline kms?

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so they can grind the new pr xD

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 1:52 AM

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so i guess this is one of the first prototype

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 1:52 AM

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nah she gon be op

trust the process

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 1:52 AM

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now gonna be released

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sandyMeme

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:52 AM

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sandyMeme

lament lichen Apr 20, 2019, 1:52 AM

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meanwhile we get bel chan

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 1:52 AM

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bel chan has heals smugBucky

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:53 AM

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3.5% of her max that's lower than akashi

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xD

red nexus Apr 20, 2019, 1:54 AM

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If lil zepp is gonna bea meta breaker... i'm not complainin

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:54 AM

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kek

red nexus Apr 20, 2019, 1:55 AM

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With or without ark

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 1:56 AM

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or vert/green heart if they have her

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xD

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not likely though

red nexus Apr 20, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Vert mutsukiStare

void knot Apr 20, 2019, 2:01 AM

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The flex version has GH/Vert.

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The pleb version has Ark Royal.

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:02 AM

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xD

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Is it better to have hsfcr on nagato or amagi?

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I am using on amagi atm cus she shoot right when belfast uses her smoke if without hsfcr

dull hollow Apr 20, 2019, 2:06 AM

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once you get 818s I think you use FCR if it lets her sync up with your CV

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and dont use it if it's too fast

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but rn i dont think it matters all that much

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Does bel smoke reduce dmg taken too?

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:06 AM

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bel smoke only reduces aviation damage

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Ah only avi dmg

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:06 AM

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says in there

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xD

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but evade rate is ok

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I guess. I will use amagi with hsfcr.

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Wont get affected by the eva boost

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Is 12.7k vanguard power abit low?

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:10 AM

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First time i see my vanguard vs ennemy backfleet fight

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I mean

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my backfleet died before vang

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:11 AM

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It can happenn.

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Mostly with foxes

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Vanguard power tends to vary alot based on what is run

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it can get pretty low

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:11 AM

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And idk if power means that much in pvp, i think it's more about having good buffs for aviatipn

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Belfast savior ykk

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It just feels so meh

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XD

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Jesus shelterturboconcerned

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Yeah, power is mainly quoted here to get an idea of which equips are run, etc.
Too much power, for example, indicates subpar gold equip being run over better purple equip

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Yea. Using damn boiler on savior

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 2:13 AM

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I'm at 12760 on my PvP defense, for example
Oh, yeah, Bel Jun Ykkz with boilers gets pretty low, it's what gives above number for me

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Is sirius' aviation buff still active after she dies ?

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Yep

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Yey

elder crane Apr 20, 2019, 2:14 AM

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If it doesn't say "when this ship is alive" or something similar, it's perma

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Take aurora as example for one that is lost on sinking

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Yeah but it feels weird to still have a biff active even tho the one who buffed died

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don't have aurora KaguyaSmug

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So idk her skill

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Nagato y u so squishy

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And jebus y wont udie

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:17 AM

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just slap an air radar on there

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xD

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:18 AM

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mfaoL

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:18 AM

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/what im doing cause she isnt 110 yet

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cause i had a +10 air radar sitting around

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xD

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 2:18 AM

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I am gonna putting her at tank position. I think in def she should die sooner

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Level 100 ZoomEyes

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:20 AM

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just hit 103 today

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getting there!

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Damn okay

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 2:24 AM

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nagato 110 hiryu 107 sirius 109

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uniFlex

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gonna grind sendai, hyuuga, kagabb next

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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tf

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I got nagato on the first day and she's only 86

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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i mean i 110 nagato like 4 days ago

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smugBucky

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cyaneko 110 nagato in 2nd day

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:26 AM

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no one can emulate cyaneko

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xD

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at least i already have hiryuu 110

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from before sara kai lol

lunar halo Apr 20, 2019, 2:28 AM

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sandyLul

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:29 AM

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but now im a zero/comet/comet sara kai troll

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getting all the mvp

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who needs good planes when your skill doesnt care about base damage

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xD

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 2:54 AM

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interesting

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vague token Apr 20, 2019, 2:59 AM

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im pretty sure there's like 0 ways to lose that

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especially with no juneau

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 2:59 AM

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aurora died early lol

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amagi barrage on a fox z35wow

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vague token Apr 20, 2019, 3:01 AM

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xD

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to be fair

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they dont have amagi to reduce it

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and no ykk

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they just eat full damage

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X-x

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:02 AM

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closest so far... lost vg badly and eat nagato barrage

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vague token Apr 20, 2019, 3:02 AM

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xD

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:03 AM

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z35wow

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this is really close

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both nagato barrages and akaga airstrike

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should still be a win thanks to hyuuga aa

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7-0 so far

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 3:06 AM

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i feel like that defense is only to cheese out lesser vanguards

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since it's full evade debuff

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:07 AM

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i mean nakaga is a close match to namagi lol

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i can stomp nakaga with hyuuga lol

lament lichen Apr 20, 2019, 3:08 AM

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if hyuuga was hiryuu then it wou;ldnt be close

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:09 AM

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not even using belfast because i don't need her

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again aurora eating amagi barrage

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buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 3:11 AM

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What a good specimen

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:14 AM

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@real notch
Kikiyo (Nagato, Kaga, Akagi | Aurora, Jintsuu, Sendai) 13226/13331
ZackFairX (Nagato, Amagi, Hyuuga | Jintsuu, Yukikaze, Juneau) 14137/12298

game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win
game 7 - win
game 8 - win
game 9 - win
game 10 - win

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 3:18 AM

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hmm im surprised nakaga cant wipe enemy vgs even with aurora and sendai

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:18 AM

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it does wipe my vg without belfast

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 3:18 AM

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need cowtits number 2

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:19 AM

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just 2 times aurora died to amagi barrage

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 3:20 AM

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i mean 5 out of 10 fights someone in your vg is still alive

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:20 AM

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worse rng i've seen so far and still hiryuu wins

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no barrages and opponent nagato procced

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nagato barrage hurts even on defense

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real notch Apr 20, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Thx, was actually wondering how namahyuu is

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And in light of new information, your opponent dmg is reduced so your ships are more tanky

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Overall by 20%

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So for future defense fleets, need to focus on increasing overall dmg to keep up

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Which means the ideal nakaga vg should focus on wiping vg first strike

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Maybe aurora sendai ykkz?

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:27 AM

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doesn't matter tbh

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 3:28 AM

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well from those matches from zack, even with sendai and aurora they still cant wipe

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 3:28 AM

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defensive vg by test data still outperforms lol

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Or maybe any vg with juneau

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 3:28 AM

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maybe the classic jint jun aurora

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Ehh im just rambling but maybe offense is not the way to go

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Cus whatever effort you put into itemizing offense, its 80% effective

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Compared to itemizing HP, which is 100%

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Kikiyo (Nagato, Kaga, Akagi | Aurora, Jintsuu, Sendai) 13226/13331
ZackFairX (Nagato, Amagi, Hiryuu | Belfast, Yukikaze, Juneau) 13416/12490

game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - close win
game 4 - win
game 5 - close win
game 6 - win
game 7 - win
game 8 - win
game 9 - win
game 10 - win

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Or 220% with scaling hp

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@zenith tundra did your nagato die in any of those tests?

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:30 AM

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yes

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my 2 close wins are with nagato dead

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hyuuga boosted barrages are insane tbh. u literally just demolish opponents

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Do we know if Nagato will have skins

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in the future

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aFeelsReEeEeE

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:38 AM

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who knows

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she just got her sleepwear so most likely not

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:38 AM

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its a new skin?

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😮

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:39 AM

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was released with isss rerun in jp/cn

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:39 AM

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oh cool

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ok. oh well fk it gonna buy it

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UWU

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:41 AM

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also with belfast instead of jintsuu lost vg fight only 4/10 times... not sure if sendai aurora is enough to wipe full defense vg

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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smh if not for that one loss yesterday I could be 4th

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on lexington

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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oof

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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24th isnt bad but its not 4th

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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welp wait for next season now

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Got Nagato to 98, once I get her yellow skill up I'll probably see more of the effect

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:45 AM

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a few already got theirs to lv110

#

kisaaa

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:45 AM

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yeah but im lazy

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:45 AM

#

same

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:46 AM

#

and now back to farming for Jintsuu, because RN my frontline is a bit weak

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

#

I lvled my nagato in event map c2

#

and it got to 110 relatively easy

#

u ppl just slack

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

#

I was leveling on 7-2

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

#

i play other games and do other things kthx

#

xD

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

#

same

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

#

also ^

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

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i had 110 nagato with max oath for some days now

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

#

I play my new graf zpeelin in wows

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:48 AM

#

Also having a RL job that takes 8-9 hours each day

#

but whatever

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 3:48 AM

#

5 euro box 40 euro ship dogeSmug

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:48 AM

#

Once I get nagato up I can truly test the Nagato/Amagi/Hiryuu

dry socket Apr 20, 2019, 3:48 AM

#

Juneau-Ayanami-Aurora thinkZed

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:48 AM

#

and wait for the Hiryuu retrofit

#

yeah thats my frontline

#

I want to replace Juneau with Jintsuu

#

and eventually Aurora with Sendai

dry socket Apr 20, 2019, 3:49 AM

#

and only named Hiryuu with her literal translation..?

craggy cove Apr 20, 2019, 3:49 AM

#

Couldn't think of another good name

#

And I considered oathing all my fleet and naming them to say "Touch fluffy tail do it now" across the 6

#

but thats dumb when you don't have them all together

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 4:04 AM

#

i made the entry for namahyuu

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 4:11 AM

#

ye @zenith tundra that's why i was asking

#

the win condition for foxes vs namagi is killing nagato first

#

that's why i was theorizing that ryuusei would be better... but guess not

#

Shrug

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:12 AM

#

Or nagato not proccing shit

#

entyLUL

#

Which is very likely

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 4:13 AM

#

i've been using nagato for quite a while and her not proccing 3 times in a row is not that likely tbh

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 4:13 AM

#

did u max ur skills yet on nagato

#

or just barrage

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 4:14 AM

#

10 red 8 yellow

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 4:14 AM

#

you should get at least 1

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:14 AM

#

Both at 9

#

106 nagato

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 4:14 AM

#

ah, mine's 8 red 10 yellow

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

#

another 54.5hr before max skills for me

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:20 AM

#

sandy almost 110

#

AkagiLul

#

jk shes 106

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 4:21 AM

#

btw @lime rivet , can you pin this message on datamined info on PVP from cyaneko?

ok so to sum up
Health in PvP is multiplied by 0.9 + 0.012 * level
Destroyers get 25% damage reduction and 5% evasion rate
CL get 15% more damage and 20% damage reduction
CA get 15% damage reduction
All backline gets a 20% damage penalty, except CVL (they get 10%)
If you're attacking, you get an another 20% damage reduction buff, multiplicative

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:21 AM

#

entyLUL

#

thats just to show

#

how much damage the backline could deals

lime rivet Apr 20, 2019, 4:30 AM

#

Someone tell Daxam to update his list in pins :v

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 4:37 AM

#

lol

buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 4:40 AM

#

I think we could have our Tierlisting ships to show on public now

#

only thing left there is Amakaga's VG some of it no descriptions

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 4:43 AM

#

the whole ship analysis should be remade like sirius one in the vg tab

#

not even sure if we do 2 tabs or only 1

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 4:44 AM

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all the tabs

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:55 AM

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lul

#

we are making our own tierlist

#

for EN?

#

AkagiLul

buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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um yeah... A bunch of people involved in it

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

#

tierlist with general analysis

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:57 AM

#

ah

#

I remember

#

it was last tuesday

#

and i was like

#

nyeh

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

#

are you a cat

#

;)

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

#

smugBucky

coral wren Apr 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

#

aYay

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

#

are you asking if he's forgetful or if he's a pussy smugBucky

#

or both uniYan

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

#

just your friendly neighborhood galactic politician

buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

#

"Emperor"

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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nah, havent heard about that one

#

long live democracy

buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

#

yup until you plan to execute Order 66

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

#

xD

#

i only got +1 for like 500 rank difference reee

buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 5:00 AM

#

I didn't even get a score at 612 difference

#

+0

hybrid tendon Apr 20, 2019, 5:01 AM

#

almost forgot to do pvp

#

thanks for the reminder

#

AkagiLul

buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 5:01 AM

#

this is PvP room after all... Being in here should remind you

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 5:03 AM

#

kek

#

if i just wait a little longer maybe ill get another +1

#

xD

vague token Apr 20, 2019, 5:47 AM

#

finally maxed shiny sheff

#

now to max her gun skill

#

=D

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 7:13 AM

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thanks for acess to the doc, I updated my pin, I am backreading a bit on the stuff but I am lazy

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 7:13 AM

#

AquaThumbsUp

strange locust Apr 20, 2019, 8:37 AM

#

ow

📎 Screenshot_20190420-203440.png

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 8:41 AM

#

it seems you like to live dangerously

strange locust Apr 20, 2019, 8:56 AM

#

my finger missed the pause button

#

amazed I survived 👏

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 8:58 AM

#

be careful of fat fingers 👀

#

cya just lost a round cos of it

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:00 AM

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try the device back button next time

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:00 AM

#

uniYan

#

u slow neko

#

my hiryu also 107

#

now

#

that pr delay is annoying

#

feels like im gonna take out all event oils first

#

before it comes

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:01 AM

#

my shiny sheff is level 9

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:01 AM

#

how to grind monarch fast

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:01 AM

#

who's gonna be testing sheffield as a belfast replacement

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:02 AM

#

i shouldn't have refitted my hyuuga before 110 sandyCry

#

now she got a retarded plane that doesnt kill shit

#

and lost a cl gun

hot creek Apr 20, 2019, 9:03 AM

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isnt she kind of annoying to use? you have to reset until she procs at the start right?

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:03 AM

#

its for the sake of testing

#

for hms in the pvp sheet

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:04 AM

#

ah

#

well i mean

#

at least u got buffed stats and efficiencies

#

on hyuuga kai

#

her shells hit like a truck

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:04 AM

#

i should've grinded to 110 first really

#

lol

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:04 AM

#

ppl seem to recommend Repulse and Renown for Monarch

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:04 AM

#

that plane is crap

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:04 AM

#

but I don't think that's fast

#

just oil-efficient

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:05 AM

#

im just gonna casually 100 all ships i dont use actually

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:05 AM

#

maybe if you also take Hood along

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:05 AM

#

for tech fleet in the future

#

and for my ocd sanity

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:05 AM

#

don't

hot creek Apr 20, 2019, 9:05 AM

#

I think pre kai Hyuuga might be better overall for Namagi

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:05 AM

#

farming monarch in that first 1 week

#

seems easy tbh

#

but youre cucced by bps anyways

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:06 AM

#

you'll overfill on dock space and won't wanna retire your random lv 100s

#

then be forced to whale for more space

#

longcryland

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:06 AM

#

i just bought another 50 dock slots

#

like

#

3 hours ago

#

350 now

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:06 AM

#

dafuq

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:06 AM

#

smugBucky

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:06 AM

#

you all are rich mfkers

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:06 AM

#

no

#

i just collect

blazing scroll Apr 20, 2019, 9:06 AM

#

You underestimate us

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

i'm a fish swimming in a whale's ocean

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

was about to say Stella has 300 dock space, but it's more now

blazing scroll Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

I am at 450 dock space entyLUL

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

mutsukiStare

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

there are far greater whales in the world

#

uniYan

blazing scroll Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

I am buying less skins now tho

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

im just ticked off really

#

my dock gets filled too fast now

#

i only but 1-2 skins per event

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

actually yea, there are whale gods like @hybrid obsidian

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:07 AM

#

buy*

#

and about 3 rings

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:08 AM

#

good times

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:08 AM

#

btw

#

tatsuya rushed pvp awhile ago

#

dont wanna sandbag i guess

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

#

tbh, just import anyone playing FGO into AL and you might get a super whale

#

ez sandyLul

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

#

kek

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

#

i wont really call

#

spending 100 usd per month in a game whaling

#

thats literally just buying 2 console games per month

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

#

i just whale whenever i need to ring a meta ship

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

#

👀

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

#

~~that's called being a dolphin, not a whale~~

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

#

hey

#

u must be kidding

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

#

100 USD per month mutsukistare

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

#

ur buying licenses

#

lol

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

#

i spent like 50 USD in 8 months

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

#

thats 15 usd?

#

oh eu prices

#

👀

#

its abit pricier here

#

uniFlex

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

#

god damn it

#

i wish i weren't so frugal in life

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

#

i work so i can

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

#

i feel like i am stabbing myself whenever i pull out my credit card for games

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

#

and i earn quite bigger than normal ppl

#

👀

#

translator of financial documents in a japanese company

#

uniYan

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:12 AM

#

oh that's cool job SataniaSugoi

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:12 AM

#

uniFlex

#

if i stayed in japan ill end up in a deadend job like

#

hotel receptionist

#

zulul

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:12 AM

#

if you spend money to entertain yourself in life in general, might as well spend on the game to get more out of it

#

especially since AL requires little to no RL money investment to begin with

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:12 AM

#

al requires very little money

#

if u can spend abit just think of 100 usd as

#

buying 2 console games per month

#

its pretty okay

#

im tossing coins for pvp 👀

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

#

if i stayed in japan i'd still be working in my tech startup lol

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

#

where did u live

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

#

but it wouldn't make sense because i am a business student kek

#

so i left

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

#

i was in osaka for 2 years

#

👀

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

#

i lived in shinagawa, tokyo

#

tbh i am bigger fan of kansai

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:14 AM

#

you're like so near where my company hq is at right now

#

smugBucky

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:14 AM

#

i visited kyoto for 7 days

#

and everyone i met was 10x nicer than peeps in tokyo

#

also kansaiben is cute

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:14 AM

#

diff from me then

#

i hated alot of ppl in osaka

#

cos kansai ben sounds so german

#

its like so brash

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

#

AquaLUL yea it is harsh

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

#

and i get to fight with my manager alot

#

i dont call being happy wasting money

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

#

〇〇なんやって

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

#

unless youre not happy with al anymore

#

なんやで

#

そうやな

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

#

せやな

#

which sounds like うっせやな

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

#

i hate my manager i tell u

#

lol

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

#

which is like "shut the fuck up" in tokyo

#

LOLOL

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

#

a lil bit ye lol

#

and my manager's handwriting was so ugly

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

#

are u in like big company

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

#

i kept asking him what is this and that

#

smugBucky

#

i work in a big company

#

really big

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

#

corporate japanese work is really tough...

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

#

its your everyday cereal

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

#

do you use 敬語 at work

#

or is it like international work

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

#

in my case right now

#

not anymore

#

when i was in japan

#

alot yea

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

#

ahh ic

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:18 AM

#

敬語 actually

#

im better at keigo than normal japanese

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:18 AM

#

tbh i really liked living in japan nana_cry i'd go back if i could

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:18 AM

#

due to that

#

if my company offers me a finance job back to japan maybe ill go back

#

as long as its not in kansai

#

smugBucky

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:19 AM

#

LOOL

#

well maybe you will like tokyo

#

everyone's polite and careful

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:19 AM

#

went to tokyo 3 times for gbffest

#

and akihabara

#

ill go there for vacation this july

#

time to buy al stuff

#

sandyMeme

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:19 AM

#

xd

#

i am down to go too

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:20 AM

#

are you good at business jjap

#

👀

#

you should be able to get a better job than others if u try to find an international company

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:20 AM

#

i am like... very average if not worse

#

ご説明をさせていただきます～

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:20 AM

#

im just n2 with bjt lvl 2

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

承知いたしました～

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

entyLUL

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

ご確認よろしくお願いいたします～

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

thats like

#

what you use in restaurants

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

LOOL wtf

#

ok well my company used them

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

well ofc

#

its the basics

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

#

in restaurants they use かしこまりました.... not 承知いたしました

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

#

its simplier 👀

#

sochi is for more subordinate kind of use

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

#

AquaLUL ya obviously

#

i was never a boss

#

i am a lowly salaryman

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

#

kachiku

#

uniYan

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

#

i am syachiku

#

MeguDead

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

#

oops syachiku

#

entyLUL

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

#

AquaHehe

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

#

fk i dont remember these funny

#

slang words anymore

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

#

lol u should join my server then

#

i just learn a bunch of internet slang from my weeb friends

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

#

👀 later im in too many servers

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

#

lool ok

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:25 AM

#

this 6-1 is rly annoying

#

when u only need last 2 bps

#

then greed sensor kicks in

#

my hiryuu is now 107 from 97

#

yesterday

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

#

LOL are you farming SGs

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

#

might as well

#

hiryu is pain to bring in 7-2

#

after hiryu still got 2 backline to grind

#

kagabb lvl 70 and hyuuga lvl 99

#

then 2 frontline

#

sendai and

#

oh one only

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:28 AM

#

yea i am still grinding too

#

but on that 200 aff grind

#

blobhostdead

#

how much oil are you saving for PR

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:28 AM

#

its so far so ill be able to save

#

0

#

smugBucky

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:28 AM

#

squirtlederp

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:29 AM

#

i would've been able to save all event oils

#

if it was on 26

#

but i alrdy pulled like 2k

#

so got 8k rn

#

dont know how kizuna event will be grindy too

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:29 AM

#

probably not... it seems like a mini event

#

just 4 new ships

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

#

makes me wish

#

devs would fix the exp gain from events alrdy

#

why is it so damn low than mq maps anyways

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

#

it feels lower

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

#

it is lower actually

#

lvl 90 hard mobs only give like 2.5k

#

while in mq thats like 4k

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

#

yea true lol

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

#

in exchange, it gives more command xp

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

#

but we need those event rewards GWahreeSure

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

#

i stopped at 35k

#

maybe i continue when grinding kgbb

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

#

think of lower event map exp as a price to pay for event points AYAYAyanami

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

#

i am at .... 34k i think

#

u get so many T5 boxes if u keep going tho

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

ehh, not that many

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

we all know that t5 boxes are cranes in disguise

#

smugBucky

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

it's like 4 right

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

3

#

80k and 100k

#

then 25k

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

meh good enough

leaden sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

20k, 80k, 100k

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

i love me some quintuple torpedos KappaLUL

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

#

i got alot of ijn gears so its meh to me anyways

#

id like some more belguns though

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

#

i just want magtorps

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

#

go rob zack

#

he has like 12

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

#

yostar: here, have 8 ME-155

#

me: am i a joke to you

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

#

thats why i also want kms rerun

#

i only have 3 magtorps lol

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

#

i think i was blessed to get just enough from ironblood hoarding

#

to get 2 for PVP

#

and quads too

#

yea i want KMS rerun

#

2 rainbow quints AnnaDrool

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:36 AM

#

i think only en will have the chance to have 2 rainbow quints

#

lol

#

not sure if cn jp had rainbow quints on original run

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:37 AM

#

hm, that might even change meta a bit

#

if we get 2 rainbow quints

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:38 AM

#

i dont rly think torp fronts wont matter that much in 2 months anymore lol

#

ppl will start fielding roon and louis

buoyant parrot Apr 20, 2019, 9:39 AM

#

well well

📎 unknown.png

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:39 AM

#

ill probably be fielding louis in the 3-4th month

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:39 AM

#

holy shit

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:39 AM

#

👀

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:39 AM

#

u lucky ass

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:39 AM

#

goodluck

#

i want that 720 oil comm

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:39 AM

#

i swear to you

#

i have never seen taht shit

#

in my life

#

and i'm level 100

#

WTF

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:40 AM

#

got it once

#

got 600 oil but not gem

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:44 AM

#

found a rank 13 and then..

#

📎 Screenshot_20190420-174350.jpg

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:44 AM

#

oh shit...

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:44 AM

#

dem hms is killing me emileSip

#

got careless too i didnt even watch the fight

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

damn

#

but a n HMS out of anything

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

trusting a comp that can dump 3 BB salvos into a dead ship, lul

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

what fleet were u using

#

and what was he using

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👀

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:48 AM

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he is using HMS because the only ships on the defeat screen are foxes

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please, guys

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:48 AM

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oh lol

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:49 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190420-174853.jpg

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this one

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and yea against amakaga

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📎 Screenshot_20190420-174950.jpg

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hood must've slacced hard

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akagi didnt even die lol

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:51 AM

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no

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nagato must've ganked u with alot of

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big 7

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:51 AM

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no thats amakaga only

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:51 AM

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oh amagi

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👀

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:52 AM

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~~I started running Warspite because Doy actually feels like RNG garbage~~

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:52 AM

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actually idk whos better amakaga or nakaga thinkZed

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:52 AM

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Honestly, it's probably easier for HMS to beat Nagato

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:52 AM

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yea my ws almost maxed i wanna try her next

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lv 109 skill lv 9

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:53 AM

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I have had games where ENTIRE HOOD BARRAGE was dodged by the fox

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the whole thing

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:53 AM

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yea happened to me also

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i see hood proc her barrage but enemy has no dmg lul

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:55 AM

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cant wait for a beautiful day when I will find a maxed fleet in my lobby

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I am also starting to see a lot of Eldridge

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:56 AM

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👀

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its hard to be hardcore in sandy

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:56 AM

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i need a new aux that adds like 70 hit

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fumizukiStare

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:56 AM

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shells

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:57 AM

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hmm dont think they add hit

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 9:57 AM

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indirectly

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crit chance boosts hit

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more like crit chance is better than hit

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:58 AM

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thinkZed

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:58 AM

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white shell is ACC

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whole 15 of it

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 9:58 AM

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oof 15

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 9:59 AM

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Hood with HFCR and SG is the best you get in terms of landing shots

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 10:02 AM

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oh warspite actually have significantly higher accuracy than rest of hms

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ws got 90ish and others got 60ish

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 10:06 AM

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She also has fat luck

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I honestly dont know why people hate ~~my wife~~ Warspite. Aside for being a little bit pve overpriced, she isn't much worse than any other ship

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 10:07 AM

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interesting

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 10:07 AM

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rather than hate

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its more like

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no one is caring to use her

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lol

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 10:09 AM

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a lot of ppl said warspite misses a lot thats why i never tried her

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but well its true for all BBs apparently

hot creek Apr 20, 2019, 10:11 AM

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"Belli dura despicio!" miss miss

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 10:11 AM

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thats why forced to use 2 sgs

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and hfscr

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lol

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 10:12 AM

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i tried her for a bit while level 105 and she hits her barrage just fine

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1 shot misses sometimes but atleast 1 shot always hits

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 10:18 AM

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as well as heavy armour and decent health pool

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as well as acess to qe buff

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as well as.. you get the idea

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she is a fucking good ship shush

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If wash didn't make SD invulnerable for 5 seconds, Warspite would easily be better than her because you remove RNG and add posibility of hitting targets that arent straight in front of her

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and she hits more often too

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She just suffers from being one of the vanilla ships so one skill and basically 0 synergies outside of QE

blazing scroll Apr 20, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Buff SD uniFlex

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 10:21 AM

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we just need to wait for ws retro uniFlex

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Um... do anyone still have damage comparison chart between 3 CV couples?

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:16 PM

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foxes has fastest highest dmg

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cranes have good survability and better dmg over time

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but is slow to build up

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hiryuu souryuu isnt that good as a pair until retrofit

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but hiryuu is god tier

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smugBucky

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Thanks, but do you have the chart image?

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:17 PM

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its not a chart

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:17 PM

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I still remember that chart

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:17 PM

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someone else should have it

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:18 PM

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I scrolled for about half an hour and still couldnt find it. Must be a week ago

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longcryland

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:18 PM

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oh.......

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foxes vs cranes?

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Foxes, cranes, and rabbits

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 PM

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yea the chart i remember

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it's fukin old

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cranes outdamage foxes after like

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the 4th airstrike or something

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 PM

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4th strike is hard to achieve even in pve

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lol

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thats how memey it is

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 PM

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it's really ridiculous

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someone's done the research

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if you're looking for dmg, don't use cranes over foxes lol

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 PM

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wish cranes would at least have refit that would allow faster planes

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 PM

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Its very informative, should have pinned it

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 PM

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as for rabbits, if they're kai

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they shoot hanafuda on top of basic airstrike

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 PM

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they didnt pin it because i guess

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its not relevant in pvp yet

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:21 PM

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so they probably outdamage by the 2nd airstrike lol

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:21 PM

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at least for en

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im getting the feeling i wont get top 10 this time

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kind of lost touch sandbagging

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lol

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:28 PM

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In namagi comp, amagi still outdamaged nagato right?

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:28 PM

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if nagato doesnt proc barrage

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and amagi does

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in my case

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nagato procs so nagato is always mvp

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i've been using namagiryuu

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for 2 days now

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Thats weird, even when nagato proc 100% in battle, amagi still outdmg her in my case

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

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90% if nagato procs nagato is mvp

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Both proc skill lv10

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

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what gears do u have on nagato anyways

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Same as amagi

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

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it cant be the same in our case

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i use hsfcr on nagato

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with sg radar

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lol

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double sg radar on amagi for me

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unless i meet some comp that can beat namaryuu

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i wont bother using beaver

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thats for defending anyways

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lol

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Im running namahyuuga atm

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:33 PM

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you can ask for others too

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so far nagato is stable mvp for me

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lol

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nagato loses mvp in nakaga teams though

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Which ship you put the pearl and the beaver on? @shy hazel

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:34 PM

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im still using a torp front for offense so

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i field aurora with pearl

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yukikaze with beaver

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jintsu with oxytorp

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ive never lost so far

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cos hiryuu is retarded

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smugBucky

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 PM

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I gave them both for juneau, dont know if thats a good idea

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 PM

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generally ppl here dont recommend putting pearl on jun

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and put it on another ship

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so u can have two units healing than one

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if any of them sinks

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if u want to go pure defensive go use bel, nanoda, jun

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i think lately they usepearl on nanoda

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:37 PM

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I am running pure def though

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:37 PM

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that front is pure def though

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lol

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have you seen the tierlist ppl are making here

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i guess not yet

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lemme see

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:38 PM

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Im kinda busy at day so i only visit discord when i have free time

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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generally pearl is given to whoever is in front vanguard cos that one dies first most of the time

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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👀

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am i supposed to link it

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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and then beaver on flagship or any CLs

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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i use hsfcr and sg on nagato too she's mvp even without proc sometimes lol

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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i dunno why our tierlist isnt pinned yet

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or is it too raw still

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smugBucky

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Only have tier 0 and tier 1 in the tier though

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

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entyLUL

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u always mention your magtorps neko

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

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just replace that 105 on belfast and youre good xD

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and maybe FE on ykkz but im using toolbox now also recently

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:43 PM

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i alrdy oathed hiryuu

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uniFlex

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shell be good for a long time anyways

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Does the beaver lost its buff when the owner sunk?

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 PM

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^

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 PM

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I see.

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 PM

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thats why i just put it in

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nanoda

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for more annoying memes

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though if she starts burning

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its useless

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lol

storm pasture Apr 20, 2019, 12:46 PM

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I dont have any gold or rainbow magtorps. I have no choice other than playing defensive vanguard

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They only launch torpedoes into the void or even dodge their backline

pearl nimbus Apr 20, 2019, 12:47 PM

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Thoughts on running Ryuusei over Barracuda on Akagi?

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:48 PM

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sigh

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 12:48 PM

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if u have to use ryuusei use it on kaga

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 12:48 PM

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double converging torps is super redundant and will be very sad to watch all the torps just target the same shit and omega overkill it

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 12:48 PM

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2 ryuusei is bad and 1 is inconsistent before 818

modern tree Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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especially if its SD or something, thats a tragedy

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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i kind of want to put this in our tierlist

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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[ JoJo] (Nagato, Hiryuu, Amagi | Belfast, Yukikaze, Juneau) 13401/13259
ZackFairX (Nagato, Akagi, Kaga | Juneau, Aurora, Yukikaze) 13279/12592

Dual cuda
game 1 - loss
game 2 - win
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win
game 7 - win
game 8 - win
game 9 - tie
game 10 - win

[ JoJo] (Nagato, Hiryuu, Amagi | Belfast, Yukikaze, Juneau) 13401/13259
ZackFairX (Nagato, Akagi, Kaga | Sendai, Aurora, Jintsuu) 13279/13279

Dual ryuusei
game 1 - loss
game 2 - win
game 3 - loss
game 4 - close loss
game 5 - loss
game 6 - close win
game 7 - loss
game 8 - win
game 9 - loss
game 10 - win

according to this above data, using IDENTICAL fleets with only difference in torp bombers, the usage of ryuusei will reduce your winrate by over 50% objectively speaking

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/569141508637458462/image0.jpg?width=270&height=676

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👀

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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zack died for ur sins, just refer to his test data

pearl nimbus Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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ah ok

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Wasn't sure since it doesn't seem awful, but then again my torp spreads have been lucky.

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:50 PM

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zack alrdy lost 3 charges this round cos of testing right

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lol

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 12:50 PM

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i lost 4 to sleep pls

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:50 PM

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z35wow

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hooloo lost 2

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:51 PM

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1 ryuusei is good sometimes but it should be not that different with barracuda

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:51 PM

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there are situations where ryuusei is better

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but overall cuda will be more consistent

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 12:51 PM

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i was too tired. in order to keep up with sandbagging i need to wake up in the night almost always

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:51 PM

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if it makes you feel any better, cuda has the game's by far largest touchdown damage of like 452

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they also takeoff much faster

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and sport higher HP flying in

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the plane gun loadout is better too

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:53 PM

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i prefer using 1 ryuusei when against nagato just to kill her faster

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barracudas miss a lot also anyway

pearl nimbus Apr 20, 2019, 12:55 PM

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Well I was referring to only using 1 cuda and 1 Ryuusei, I'll try it on Kaga instead.

zenith tundra Apr 20, 2019, 12:55 PM

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but at least cudas are not that inconsistent vs vg

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:56 PM

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oh they are consistent on vg

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they always miss smugBucky

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:56 PM

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yessssss

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i finally finished affection farming my backline

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blobhostdead

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it's 6AM

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time to sleep baby

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:56 PM

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lol

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worth

pearl nimbus Apr 20, 2019, 12:57 PM

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btw, could I get the link to the PvP Google Sheets?

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I forgot to bookmark xD

shy hazel Apr 20, 2019, 12:57 PM

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are we to show it around to ppl alrdy

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its wip actually

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not sure if im supposed to show it

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👀

pearl nimbus Apr 20, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Oh ok.

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That's fair enough.

ionic magnet Apr 20, 2019, 12:58 PM

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just show xD

real notch Apr 20, 2019, 12:58 PM

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ya sure just show