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idk
nope
can you really use "its too early for rerun" logic after we got vdir
yea vdir is "too early" also as far as im concerned 
vdir is 6 months
we should get kms so I can get 47 and never bother with subs again
6 > 4
inb4 bothering with subs again because I-13
I heard she's the new meta sub on CN/JP
we have ironblood boxes in monthly login ๐
french event will require a ton of oil
i-13 is neat but running her solo is probably a waste, so 47 wins by default. I aint spamming construction and then leveling multiple subs just so I can run a full sub fleet
dat mle 138.6 
Howdy, i got a question. Is the current pvp meta Amakaga - Jintsuu, Aurora and Sendai?
Or maybe replacing jint with ykk
frontline doesnt matter much
you have a lot of choices
none are too crucial
BUT
a maxed juneau is kinda a special mention

current pvp meta is "your ships with lvl 110"
cant really go wrong with that
I dont think enough people have stuff leveled to think about optimising atm
I think I'm already making bad decision of using 381 on all backline rn lmao
But i do like seeing lots of snowballs
They still do 900+ per shell
It might just be #Sandy but my current lobby has no maxed fleets, and past 7 I have had also didnt have a single one
I'd wager it's the same deal it was with Nagato, SHES FOR SURE NEXT EVENT, ENDING TO WC SAYS IT ALL
re run of previous event before nagato?
i mean vdir rerun lol
i know what i mean is kms or wc re run before nagato
no idea

we technically got everything in wc
dont think theyll rerun it soon
unless fw happens again
@modern tree i'm sure that's because ink stained steel sakura was after vdir rerun in cn/jp releases but there is a month in between the 2 events. i don't think we'll strictly follow that especially since vdir was released earlier creating even a bigger gap. either we don't get any major events before ink stained steel sakura in may or we'll get another event in the meantime. i don't think they will just release nagato 1 month earlier
in jp vdir ended on 10th april and ink started on 31st may and on cn vdir ended on 12 and ink started on 7th june
and no major event in between the 2
i'm saving this for mle farm
free 6k oil
jp was vdir rerun then inkstain with alot of mini events like graf spee rerun
so whats the meta pvp team rn
amagi + foxes jintsuu aurora and random or wasd enty / amagi / hood jintsuu belfap jesus
WASD/Amagi + Belfast/Yukikaze/Juneau has been seeing some success. Very hard to sink
No Sendai?
Sendai's stat boost is nice, but her eva down is too slow for me. I prefer using Aurora because it's a passive eva down while she's alive
I think Sendai is more suitable for offense since you'll be trading either of the 3 defense buffs from Bel/Ykkz/Jun which makes the defense fleet have less consistent winrate
just strip Laffey if you don't have it
she's actually a shell-shocked war veteran with alcohol issues, can't stay loli after something like that
Strip kisaragi for equips 
i feel like sara kai really rips through wasda
those burn/flood ticks just eat them alive
what, she has 6k hp
I think cya means she's slow af
if she's across from sodak she'll easily get 2 launches
or that her sakura torps miss because of vg
oh, dont use heccdiver
just all in on burn ticks
and gun shots
xD
i dont have 2 suiseis though
=/
should have farmed D3 then ๐
I got 2 suiseis ..
i think they are in boxes too?
xD
heh
i just need to get a 110 vanguard X_x
oh wow a green haired hero on pvp
what a champ
by suisei u mean comet in trash en translation right?
dunno xD
wash, juneau
Don't have washington, so that's kind of a problem
yeh

While akaga get all the fun
vanguard will differ with foxes
My only problem with foxes is, they got the durability of wet toilet paper
yukikaze should help with that
Probably damage instead of Juneau?
From what i heard yuki is as better at staying alive than prinz
yuki is better at staying alive than almost everybody 
i can't even think of someone who can beat her survivability 
Doesn't Z46 buff your vanguard?
z46 only buffs herself i think
Mhh... couldn't check
Oke

time for completion to take a nosedive
six subs and one refit
about 3%
oh five subs only
at least no longer people at 99.6% after subs. frick them
Oof I lost a game this season
I had dork enty and lusty alive vs enemy enty
But my enty didnโt proc a single lucky E and theirs only did
So it single handily wiped a full health dork and enty and half lusty
done with 3rd sg
now gotta farm 14 more bps

prepare for my wasd cancer def fleet
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if ur feeling lucky
my box luck is tilted to aas
i got like lots of bofors now lol
got double ufo 3 days ago
then skc ytd
then 100mm dd gun today

all aa related
Already at +12 base and look at the gap
0/10 now
i havr so much aa gears i ant +10 it anymore
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they can have fun
reset soon anyways

wont even catch up
yeah time to use all pvp attempts ๐
did u get +75 @odd schooner
+75 is a hoax , ive got nothing 
i got 
i didnt get anything too
sudden promotion
i got it then it fked me over starting at 75 at 10/10
this wont happen in actual season 
Nope 
time to test real sandbaggers
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everyone at 300 points
bad thing is im sleeping as soon as maint ends

watch them mess up
do we get 10/10 after maint or 5/10
oh so richard c is vysaga

another wasda annoying person
soon ill be one of the cool kids

wasda is not annoying ๐
can we actually even get to aotn thise season the difference in between the score at 10/10 and 10/10 after reset is over 400 pts. considering that we need 2.2k for aotn and we lose a 400+ score and the max usually is around 2.6k is it even possible?
we got a lot more merits this season anyways
yeah because resetring everyone at 500-600 score is too hard
aotn title is nice to have but eh
from what i assume
they probably calculated the average of combined scores last season
in the fourth day
the most intense battle of sandbaggers this season DONT MISS IT
available on HD 24/7 subscribe now ๐
how is the average 400 pts under? they just reset to whatever they wanted to
Actually no, we start with 300 right
I have 921 atm
so its -500
we start with 300 + 10 fights
I have 900 right now
so its a -500
end season is 2600 - 500 = 2100
so not enough for gensui
i take it they do not reset the season timer
YOU CANT CRUNCH
because ITS IMPOSSIBLE




when did this chat rurn into general ingame chat?
i dont see nothing wrong in chat as long its pvp related
i meant chat being emote spam like ingame chat

its not a issue though , all emotes are all available on all rooms
it just a way to describe /express thoughts or sometimes make a meme out of them

i wonder if emotes are pvp related. maybe i can make them ban emotes in this channel 



i'm aLways rioting
my pitchforks are ready
i will set my expectation lower than hell so I won't get disappointed and just point and laugh at them
Server up 2 mins before reset 
once i get banned for saying the painful truth and annoying them its time for twitter and fb


farming Sendai because meh~
went back to 10-4 to try to get jintsuu
xD
plus xp for portland and sirius is nice
gl with jintsuu
ty
maybe ill go back to 3-4 since one of the subs is there
and i can try for akaga again
xD
another 8hr maint. is it gonna be the same every time?
well en doesnt have its own set of devs so i guess
rip
nice
The gap never close to 100 
and now we wait xD
kamita on ambush 
Should be still fine, hood has decent aa, which is good against foxes 
I ultimately wanna change her for essex and replace bel with sandy kai
Or monarch and just keep the vanguard

SANDY KAI
You and yoyr yukies...





so 300 was because that's what rankings are after the 1st day 
thank you devs for having common sense now
after posting the tweet they recalculated that for after the 4th day 
we are at 600 pts.
can gensui 
BIG SEVEN - SAKURA

yes
noice
i thought we would actually get promotion rewards from prev ranks
guess thats why they changed it to 600 pts
has this patch mess with fleet power? My HMS is suddenly not breaking 3.7k
nope not really no change in FP
yea mines same also
still same for my trash low level fleet
I am missing some power on my backline too
Oh rip i thought it was close enough
Now blue is on my list

looks okay to me
weird
2nd pic just now
anyone used more then 1 attempt on avrora? i'm curious about ranks
3x 381 by not buying anything after last month' 381 and buying this month' right away?
what a madman, if that's the case
I have 1000 core data but I am only buying chips xd
i have 3 381 but why use them when they deal less dmg then 410
Idk cus his fleet power is higher than mine and all my ships are 200 aff
wasd barrage boats 
not implying that
Looool buying chips XD
381 for me mainly to preempt opposing ships for barrage ships, being 1 barrage up is nice
Plus Amagi with 381 with skill active and HFCR fires 3rd barrage B4 2nd fox strike iirc
oh it's faster
I mean is there any other way to get 14400+ fleet power if not using 3 gold guns
u can only get 2 shells per month 1 white and 1 black
I am using 410 and 406 and 381 and I have 14212
4 gold sg + beaver + hsfcr?
wait
yea
i believe they told
in update note
they'll put 1 refresh on core shop
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or am i wrong
who did u get kaga or akagi?
kg
satisfied with today's catch
ask him i see no reason to use that
@odd schooner y u use 3x 381
beaver have lower fleet power boost than SG
Oh i was testing stuff
i feel like i need to farm for 7sg rn. tired of ambushes
who else uses 381? isnt 406 worth using?
Like you thought it's over then 410 flies
410 lets you shoot 3 times
Like fights last up to that
i use 410 because 3rd shoot is faster then akaga 3rd airstrike
ho ho
410 on sodak?
or u want more shots off
for more proc chance with 381 on sodak instead
410 sodak spook 2 people here
who u testing vs with
oh u shoot snowballs. I shoot large caliber meats
I got +6 from a supposedly ~145-150 points difference 
Early season the #of pts needed for each +1 is lower than late season value of 35
35 only kicks in at admiral ranks iirc
right before rear admiral, iirc, 33 pts at least (possibly lower) is enough for a +1
yeah, so my data suggests 24-25 difference
assuming it's linear
for Lieutenant Commander/6th rank
dst season proved it's not fixed amount
tfw devs resetting PvP with everyone having the same amount of points is good for testing out point difference 
That was already known, the actual amounts at each rank aren't common knowledge though, probably because knowing it is useless since you can't really check ppls ranks when you would be on a threshold until late season
Cause only your own and top 100 are knowable
and without devs intervening you can really only test that in the very first season reset
unless you're a rusher
just woke up , damn sub tutorial was blocking me from doing pvp
sandbaggers problems xD
good thing I didn't hit my snooze button on my alarm or i defintely would have missed matches
noice, finished 5 attempts 1 second before reset
new record, I suppose

also thanks phoenixF 
Do I wait for another for it get rarer nodes or howโs that work?
I was 6/10 and finished my attack before reset came.. Got 10/10 had to relogin and got 9/10?
Well I guess I'm out this season

Canโt last second attack and shouldnโt for that reason, only counts it as a use when the match ends
So howโs this work now? Do I sit on this for another signal so I get a rarer node or what?
pvp btw 4 head
Oh I didnโt realize I was in pvp channel
i had 10 when i woke up after patch
Well
i had to hurry and do them before work
fuck this season then
I assumed we'd be at 5 like a regular season restart
so I've already missed 5
oh =(
they did announce that it was gonna be 10/10
I only got +4 after 5 rounds
1 sandbagger and 3 dead ppl already... this looks like 3hrs of nothing
well at least u get something out of that
sandbagger only list for a few days till we catch up with rushers
bun bun always blows 10 matches at once but every time i get him he's at 0/10 or 5/10 so he waits me out lol.
well then, outsandbag him 
just rush your attermpts in last 5 minutes before reset
so that he's forced to either rush first or rush at the same time
that is the true pvp of this game.
but i don't recommend it, last time i did that against a sandbagger I nearly lost a charge, had only 20 seconds to spare
and people are catching on to wasdA now
I feel bad for fighting people that put sonars on their pvp defense
that looks like an interesting meme
I just want to fight real fleets, sandy pls
im still leveling belfast, yukikaze and juneau so im glad for the free xp during pvp lol
i just got belfast to 110 X_x
2nd refresh of the day and nobody is moving since 3 hours ago.
It's avrora. This is where sandbaggers are. The real pvp is not who has a better fleet, but who outsandbags everyone else.
till we start getting rushers in lists it gonna be who needs to use their attempta 1st
People usually start moving 30min before next refresh. From there it's who can wait longer
well well, look who we have here https://puu.sh/Da9k5/f35d276dee.png
hopefully i can make up for my defecit of not waking up early enough after maintenance end
Sandbagging ๐ค
@hot creek u didnt wake and i only got 1 extra pt over u...
i magicaly woke up 5mins after maint ended
yeah luckily, somone in my first lobby already rushed 10 matches
I had to rush all my pvps since only like 8 mins left after stupid game forced me to play with new submarine lmao
that tutorial was dumb imo. i was hating it, didnt even pay attention to it
It made me pick a CV, then said, "you can mount sonar!" 
"pick chaser or use sonar" xD
It asked me mount sonar on Enty 
oh shit, chaser is useful now 
eh, sonar is freaking huge though so not really xD
would be fun in pvp though if subs were allowed
would be fun if subs could go to more than a quater of content
9v9 would be awesome
can't even farm 7-2 with them, whats the point
yeah
idk, it would be nice to use all ships I guess
subs also have aux guns so even if they run out of oxygen they can still try to help
Having one class be locked out of most of the content just seems lazy.
although i imagine they would melt in pvp but that's why they hide
xD
cant take damage if you dont get hit 
Isai 2k15
only problematic part is sub gear for pvp would be rng fiesta
or they could add sub gear in merits ;)))
Sub gear for merit points would be nice
Cause merit points are kinda a joke rn
Just save for Purins and cubes.
i would include 1 sub in pvp with an oxigen nerf so they have to surface around 30-40 secs even at max level
that sounds about right
100% sandbaggers list 
idk at least sleepers dont appear in ur list anymore. sandbaggers are always there...
Sandbagger?
pros 
#Relatable
Bet people forgot to do their pvp 
waited till 51 and no one moved
14.1k fleet power totally useless
I'm thinking torp squad on offense is no longer a meme. In fact its probably necessary against wasdA since you'll need to kill their VG asap and hope second wave of torps can reach their backline
but i wouldn't be using aya
i'd do jintsuu/yukikaze/sendai
i would use jintsuu sendai if i hat to go that
that vg looks interesting. if i have the chance ill try it out against a good wasda. i have all of them at 110
could also use aurora instead of yukikaze
i would rather swap out nanoda for jesus but dunno
but yhkikaze is amazing with boilers against bbs
ive enough chips to instantly 110 my sodak and washi now 
i have 250 chips lol
all this training at 8-1 got me two extra twin 127mm as well so i won't have to swap equips for defense etc anymore.
but sitll no inazuma what le fuck
she so rare
i have already leveled like 5 ships to 110 at 8-1 and still no sign of her
so would aurora jintsuu yukikaze be more consistent? u do lose on starting torp
actually u only lose dmg if they hit backlines. against vg aurora -evasion should be better
what main gun do ppl use on sodak?
I don't use WASD in pvp but I assume the usual 406.
410
406 is a thing from the past now
Like what zack said a few times, 410's 3rd usually fires off before akaga 3rd airstrike
Also
@ionic magnet the reason why it's underwhelming is because we don't have 818 plane yet
It's a swordfish plane that slows down enemy Vanguard speed
hmm i'll try sendai again whenever we get that plane then 
she's benched til then kek
rip in piece
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y tho

Better Top-up in PUBG

interesting, so does Washington also uses the 410 now too?
I meant 410
No
381
I farm everyday after 60k+ oils still no Jintsuu
N 150 cubes still no SR Submarine
Better uninstall it
oof
406 has the weakness to
- Not shoot for the 3rd time
- Will never really shoot enterprise on lucky E duration lmao
@vale juniper quitting before nagato. Feels like you just lost patience tbh.
But yeah, it's kinda hard to wait
Got that issue on another game
Now i practice it by camping out on pvp
so it's 410 for both WASD now. or 381 for wash?
Don't need Nagato if have Amagi already
Optional, trump still uses 410s
But yeah Bye for this game
Really up to you what you want on washi
I want delete my account
Best way is to unlink both fb and Twitter then uninstall
@zenith tundra you guys have been seeing below top 300?
Kinda hard to look for them

@cerulean estuary i will try what you did on ykkz
Sandwich mode
nothing below 1k after 1st reset today

no bonus in 3 1/2hrs
same
why do i get the feeling i got a bunch of people who missed the first reset but then blew 10 matches after
so they have no matches to play
dark ages of sandbagging
i have a feeling that 10/10 after maint didn't help at all sandbagging
plus the fact that it takea more to catch up wirh rushers due to the low bonus points
so all we end up sandbagging on are sandbaggers
3rd refresh in and sandbaggers get left with other sandbaggers 
its almost like dst 2.0 i feel like keepping myself at 6-7/10 instead of 10/10
holy shit... Bagas barrage actually hits really hard
does hyuuga kai gets any aa? i feel like trying amagi kaga bb and hyuuga kai
i meant the actual aa stat because kaga bb and amagi sucks at that
not even 200?
lol
i might actually try that
time to farm xp on baga then
bb kaga baga
i think it is but kaga bb gets repetitve soon enough
also they released new seaplane in jp/cn
havent seen the stats yet
i got another +5 =D
822 6/10
ah lol
it's just so it's easier for me to remember since im doing other stuff
ok i thought u were getting bonuses while i just sit here on attempts
ah
yeah
hyuuga kai new flagship for amagi hyuuga baga
that aa is no joke. if i have to guess she has 350 aa at lvl 110
owo
715k xp on my hyuuga and 250k on baga. something to do before next patch
is baga really gonna be meta 
ofc not i would pick hyuuga kai over baga for sure tbh
that aa plus buffs make her so much better imo then a coin flip barrage
but i wanted to try baga in pvp since i saw that amagi akagi baga comp
Namagi Baga has a serious shot at being the meta team for a while
as long as u dont fight nakagas left and right namagi baga will be good. but the aa on those 3 ships is dog shit u would need to switch in between hyuuga/hiryuu and baga
The big question is if we'll hit the critical mass of WaSDA and NamagiH to sufficiently disincentivise Nakaga
And if our NamagiH as a def team actually disincentivises Nakaga at all
i dont see many wasda but namagi i can see everywhere
considering how famous nagato is i would expect all comps to be her in pvp
afaik NamagiH on CNJP isn't so clear-cut a win at 120 vs Nakaga that at 110 with no Hiryuu retro it would still definitely work
It might end up being like Amkaga vs WaSDA recently, with lv 100 Amkaga still winning as off but at 110 it struggles
one more reason not to run baga tbh
her aa is as bad as amagi
and nagato is even worse
Yeah, lv120 with shells and PR vanguard options might be able to just tank strikes and kill back but at 110 no shells it'll be more difficult
guess my nakaga def will be a thing after all
Amagi's barrage is still bugged in which the AP shots fly off to the sides so very likely
someons finally pushing in my list thank god
i want to set nakga def for the memes
not that i like it all that much
My night is pretty much dead. I had 1 sandbagger that barely moved giving me +2 and that's it.
i have max akaga already and nagato i will use for offense so its easy
WaSDA is annoying but not unbeatable anymore. Trying to face that with them being 110 and my fleet not being all 110 yet was the problem
I only use wasda to stall
pretty effective at stalling
tfw u almost lose mirror with juneau juntsuu aurora vg and after that u don't lose a ship with juneau sheffield aurora
Wasda was never unbeatable
Just annoying
When boss thinks you just gonna go short bathroom break but never came back after 5 minutes
lol
1 and 1/2 minute battle https://puu.sh/Dai6z/d4672c20de.png 
this was longest for me when i was trying amagi doy hood
i was reset trying so i just quit after that
Remember: Nagato has fluffy tail
Therefore, Nagato teams will always win
cause #FluffyTail is #Winning
i'm pretty sure nagato lost a whole bunch of matches (on defense teams)
nagato sleepwear skin is illegal on this server, right?


almost done with 4th sg
9/15
i guess u can farm gold gears in mq
in about 2-3 days
if u have oil
and ima run out soon
more like 2-3 weeks for me 
under 100 but over 50 probably
846 5/10 ppl didnt move almost at all
I hope mcpootis is at 10/10 after reset
I am at 847 now 
Can you guys tell me your 5/10 score?
I wanna know how much points I need to catch up
846
852
thanks 
https://puu.sh/DajSz/ae8a234f6d.png these opponents seem questionable
do i refresh ๐ค
one's pushing 
praise rng
dani is a sandbagger ye
NotLikeThis
i'm at 6-1 too trying to get another 2-3 sg lol
i need more for pve too
and for now i need another 2 so i can have both hms and amakaga equipped
I have 6 and I think I'd like more, but I am busy farming ships

and i don't think shells are anywhere near
I am however using 3BBs and Portland for pvp so that may be why
u use sg on port too?
from what i read
Yeah, its acc and evasion
still another 2 months then without
never really liked nagato that much but that sleep skin is so good
im getting the feeling the storm alo is saying is like jp
nagato with mikasa event
so craptons of ships to roll
nagato on limited while mikasa takes heavy build
lol
it makes sense on why they keep telling us to not spend much cubes on subs
if thats the case
hope ur wrong and it just means event + research
dunno
well see
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inb4 is nagamika event with pr ships

i can already feel it
the ppl who spent all cubes on subs
complaining not on getting event ships cod too many to roll
idk i don't feel like mikasa soon enough and nagato is next month. if we get oc rerun it's 1 sub u need to get
if it german event
i doubt they would have told us to save cubes though
alot of players only need to roll new ones
research does costs cubes tho
@shy hazel lol we have whaling issue on my end
One whale wants to stop another whale just because he's got lots of cubed

i already have 3 subs not gonna to use more at the same time anyway
didnt even roll special
lets see whats next event first
the only real safety net for cubes from what is see is 800
either way i think i'm fucked once nagato comes. i only have 900 gems rn and only 500 extra in 2 days from trade license
lower than that can still risk u not getting stuff
300 cubes 3k gems im not sure if ill even get nagato

+100 bucks stipend on al this month
about 8k gems i guess
i don't want the 10k gems curse that comes with 80$ price tag
i just hope is next month so i can stack 2 trade licenses
i hope they release a stupid 30$ overpriced bag so i don't need to spend more
that's great i don't need to spend more on her lol
too long
Wait, hope we get kongo skin too lmao
skins always released early anyways
if i get nagato skin from that bag 
the only skin i wanted and got from bag was helena one
are we getting nagato next?
can't really complain tho i got yama xmas skin which is really nice and doy skin

Ppl said ise hyuuga retro originated from mikasa event
i still 99.99% believe that ink stained steel sakura is in may
mikasa has few ships
ppl also forgot we got z23 and laffey kai before ayanami
is Mikasa good?
a more bb oriented nagato but with kind of meh stats especially hp for pvp
shes a pre ww1 ship
hmmm I'll pass on using her then
60... i did 3 10x pulls and only got the 2 elite ones on last 10 pull
I see in my guild looks like a few just attempted doing the sub pull... I think most of everyone in my guild is saving for big event
hes an oil baron anyways
imnotleo lol
the guy that always whales oil
just to be top one in any rank except pvp
can't buy pvp with oil it seems
Ye even on my end just the whole box visually seen on the drops
lol
i guess its hard to sandbag
when everyone starts at 600
few bites here and there
wait
ink stained has no gacha skin box

wow PvP isn;t moving at all
Highest PVP power level + equipment list please
oathed wasd amagi with gold everything and 6 sg radars should get you around 14.5k, dunno if you can flex harder than that
Hood has higher power than Amagi iirc, by like 50 or something 
(not as combat capable in that team ofc)
Then it's a torpedo boat vanguard with oxytorps, probably
That vanguard might be able to stack 15k power
it's over 9000
as long as its retrofits it will have super high power for no particular reason, bonus points for high asw since that boosts power now too
Hmm, has ASW strictly boosted power?
Ayakai iirc already could easily hit 5k, I suppose that means she's even higher now?
In that case 15k should be easy enough, probably
I think the power before had a ghost ASW stat that is now revealed and infulences it
since the power ratings changed slightly, but its like sub 10 points swings
Ah, then it's back to maybe/probably 15k vanguard is possible







