pvp

[zenith tundra]

never lost an mvp with this strat too

[coral wren]

sendai and aur will prob negate all your smoke shenanigans

But i wonder what 3rd slot will be, ayaya or jin

inb4 hms starts using yuki as well

[zenith tundra]

i don't think there are comps that cannot run nanoda

[ivory vine]

if a comp cant run nanoda then it's shit

[livid fractal]

Made my day

[empty sinew]

i welcome all of thee to destroy my yellow Jintsuu kai as many times as you want (on )

[odd schooner]

@livid fractal how many points

[leaden sequoia]

yellow Jintsuu
what a heresy, when the class is named after that yellow Jintsuu

[odd schooner]

No, that's Hamon

[empty sinew]

[livid fractal]

@odd schooner I got +3

94 point difference

[dense lynx]

[clear cloud]

I find out that hood after killing enemy in front of her she just become useless
381kai salvo damage is just too low to do anything

[brittle hill]

Need more reload

[zenith tundra]

on the other side if u wait for opponent to stike 1st u might not have the chance to attack again

i dont really like the 381 but u use for amagi barrage not for the damage plus amagi barrage has a part that can still hit opponents on the other corner

[odd schooner]

I'm using those guns for faster shells rn

Maybe I'll stick to 410

[zenith tundra]

wouldn't wasda amagi use 381 for 2nd barrage before 2nd akaga airstrike?

[odd schooner]

First round on 381 410 and 406 are before 2nd.airstrike

[zenith tundra]

what?

[odd schooner]

2nd.airstrike is like... Around sodak proc

Oh

Let me test

Also got this

[zenith tundra]

with 381 and hsfcr should be around 30 sec mark 2nd barrage

for my amagi is 29.91 secs + whatever delay there is so like 30 secs

[leaden sequoia]

on attack, would it be better to use Hyuuga base/Dork/Amagi than QE/Dork/Amagi?

now that you have access to MogamiKai

• whatever meta IJN CL

[zenith tundra]

i don't see mogami being good in pvp

[leaden sequoia]

well, against Aurora-based comps

[zenith tundra]

the mgm+1 is usually useless because of the movement pattern

[odd schooner]

Amagi with 381 fcr shoots 1.5s before 2nd airstrike

Sodak 381 shoots at the same time as the 2nd airstrike

Tho it was 104 akaga

[leaden sequoia]

but yeah, MogamiKai doesn't tank as well as Minnie or PortKai

[zenith tundra]

with sendai here i would avoid any non tanky ship tbh. even as a ca she would get damaged badly if against her

u can try her but i haven't seen her name anywhere in pvp comps

[leaden sequoia]

yeah, she's a good solo offensive unit, but those don't get a chance to shine much in PvP

[zenith tundra]

mg based ships aren't that good in pvp generally even pr are more used for tankiness then damage

[leaden sequoia]

Hyuuga should still have a use with Amagi before Nagato hits EN?

with just Jintsuu and Sendai as IJN in front

[zenith tundra]

i myself would avoid bb comps without synergy then again i haven't seen 110 comps that often

[leaden sequoia]

hmm

sacrificing Dork's good FP just to proc debuff before Amagi's barrage strikes is too much then

[zenith tundra]

i played hms a bit and trying to synergize doy normal shells with anything is like a gamble. i would rather just put a 406 on her and let the 50% dmg do the work or even a 410 if u really want to try and sync her attack with others but 381 never

all u can usually do is let her barrage help snipping

and focus her mg on dmg mainly

also sendai in not a good ship for anything but akaga because the timing of her flare. if u want to use hyuuga and amagi use nanoda jintsuu front for ijn buff

and just using sendai for amagi barrage doesn't seem to be worth it when nanoda offers so much more then her

[leaden sequoia]

oh shit, I forgot about nanoda

[zenith tundra]

don't

[leaden sequoia]

yes, Sendai is gonna be less useful when BB shell RNG never allows to hit vg

[zenith tundra]

hyuuga kai is a good choice for 3rd slot for namagi maybe not best with hiryuu/kaga bb around and even less with taihou hiryuu kai but definitely a choice

plus her barrage should be triggered by enemy vg

[odd schooner]

Done this reset

[zenith tundra]

what's ur score? kind of curious how much behind i am by rushing

[odd schooner]

Nothing much

615

[zenith tundra]

i'm at 668 with 0/10

22 pts behind already

[livid fractal]

How many attempts did you miss?

[zenith tundra]

0 i'm just rushing for score data

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11pXT0P1woKxjTrXIFCTa60XERLURiE0xCflWsNTQXsM/edit#gid=1410573256

[livid fractal]

Oh, I see

So you want to know how much the point difference between normal attack and someone who is sandbagging? @zenith tundra

[leaden sequoia]

implying rushing is normal and sandbagging is not

I agree tho

[zenith tundra]

my original goal was to see if at any point i can get people that perma rush in my list with attempts at 5+. now also lookin for score density at different ranks

as u can see the score density is pretty high at higher scores which means a difference of 100 ranks in top 500 is less score difference then 100 ranks in 1.5k mostly of the time at least in this point of the season

for example when u sandbag at the beginning it may look like not much difference in between 1.5k and 1.1k but that is almost 2 attempts and if u never rush is hard to tell that

[leaden sequoia]

not right now, I still regularly encounter foxes on Wash

with some oddball comps at lower ranks, as always

[vague token]

to be fair no one has full 110 yet so who knows xD

[wheat rivet]

is wasd amagi better than akagamagi?

i've never had much trouble with my akaga amagi fleet except against bad enemy project rainbow RNG

[coral wren]

Reee i accidently won a game cus I couldnt exit fast enough. Hiryuus final counter + airstrike insta deleted 2 foxes.

[modern tree]

it's different and people here are bored

[coral wren]

And it was s right most side guy too.

[leaden sequoia]

wait, you have problems with project rainbow when using Amakaga? 🤔

[wheat rivet]

its not a frequent problem

its when she gets multiple procs in a row from stray bullets because RNG

[modern tree]

also, people here are mostly speculating defensive capability, and wasd after 110 might just be good enough to trouble foxes

[coral wren]

Dosnt she have a cd. What u mean in a row

[modern tree]

also, Eldridge should die in the first strike, invest in Aurora stocks today

[wheat rivet]

what cooldown? its a 15% chance when taking damage to give full front line 100% evasion?

[leaden sequoia]

also Eldridge procs at different time than Akaga airstrikes and Amagi barrage with 1 IJN front

[modern tree]

its on 20 second cooldown

[coral wren]

Its why its op against enty. Cus it procs 20 secs into tje fight once the internal cd is over.

[modern tree]

it also starts on cooldown, so the only way it could ever give trouble to foxes is if their preemptive strike is untouched or you are not dealing enough damage to sink a meh DD

[coral wren]

Weak foxes. Give them proteins

R u vegan shikikan

[leaden sequoia]

TIL red skill books = proteins lol

[modern tree]

Imagine not enchancing your ships because you are vegan

[wheat rivet]

weak fox =/

[coral wren]

Having problem with eld is still omegalul.

Even 100 foxes can one shot her

What r u using as vanggy

[modern tree]

I will be honest, if my HMS can sink Eldridge before Rainbow without Aurora, your foxes are malfunctioning

[leaden sequoia]

inb4 105/110 foxes have problematic reload compared to 100

[coral wren]

What are thooooooseee

[wheat rivet]

idk who to replace them with

[modern tree]

That is a reather bizarre choice of frontline, but I guess it's easier to identify problem this way

[leaden sequoia]

do you have Aurora?

[wheat rivet]

maybe?

[coral wren]

Is that a new strat to put amagi on top

[wheat rivet]

i was giving the other's xp

[leaden sequoia]

try her instead of Fortune in your offensive fleet

[wheat rivet]

because flagship xp

[modern tree]

Aurora, Jintsuu, Sendai, Sirius, there are so many options that are a tad more offensive than a full on stall frontline for the most aggro backline in the game

[coral wren]

I am lvling hiryuu that way too xd

Did u 110 unlock ur foxes tho

U dont get stored exp in pvp

[leaden sequoia]

5 minutes before reset

time to push

[wheat rivet]

oh i finally found my aurora

dont have jintsu tho

[coral wren]

Tfw i am gonna unlock 110 on sodak before other BBs

[wheat rivet]

and no sendai either obv

[coral wren]

I got sendai but I dont play amakaga

[leaden sequoia]

Belfast/Aurora/Juneau then

[wheat rivet]

gotta level that aurora

time to grind

[coral wren]

Dont u wanna get more dmg out with torps ok vanguard rather than staying power

[leaden sequoia]

you might want to grind event levels tomorrow tbh

I'd save oil today

[coral wren]

I feel jesus is not very good with foxes.

[leaden sequoia]

welp

21, 21, 15, 15, 15 this reset

[vague token]

owo

[leaden sequoia]

581, 5/10

[coral wren]

I got 14 once cus I was testing beaver on hiryuu and accidenrly won

[leaden sequoia]

still facepalming that I overslept 3 charges

[vague token]

=(

[leaden sequoia]

heh, me too lol

[modern tree]

y'all playing on dead servers, its normal

[livid fractal]

I didn't get +21.. But +18.. Probably because my points is high already 627 5/10

[coral wren]

is portland kai viable in pvp?

[modern tree]

shes probably decent right now, only gonna get better

[coral wren]

i'd try a lineup of: amagi, wasd, portland kai, juneau, helena, would it work, i wonder

[modern tree]

I'd run that, just Juneau front, Helena middle and Port back

[coral wren]

also, do i have to get 203mm prototype for portland?

[modern tree]

Have to is probably an exaggeration. You can get it if you like usng CAs, but Portland has pretty low efficency on her gun so it is unlikely to make a huge difference over just using 203 Mounted, which is a purple version of it

[coral wren]

or would it be better to use the golden german gun?

for AP against enemy med/heavy armored stuff?

considering she'll probably outlive the enemy vanguard most of the time

[modern tree]

That is a bad reason to do it

[coral wren]

another thing, atm i'm in top 15, if i keep it at this pace during the season, i should probably reach gensui this season, right?

[modern tree]

Those are modifiers for CA guns, as you can see, the difference between HE and AP is minor, which means you should use HE because hitting VG for more damage and then setting/keeping fires is just better.

Your position on the leaderboard has no bearing on your ability to reach gensui later. If you used all your attempts and got to 15, you should probably start pacing yourself more, you are dropping a lot of potential points by rushing, the potential points that will have bearing on you getting gensui at the end of season.

[coral wren]

well, i used them over the spam of like 4 hours, still got 2 exercices left

[modern tree]

Yeah, on most servers if you just keep playing all your attempts and dont attack opponents that are lower rank than you, you should be good for the rush

[analog hare]

Save refresh properly

[odd schooner]

Sometimes it's just 🚮

[buoyant parrot]

I'm seeing a lot of new face here

[vale juniper]

:"3

[shy hazel]

new people to brainwash

to sandbag

[vague token]

but

if everyone sandbags

no one does

[shy hazel]

let them

majority of people still wont

[vague token]

true

hiryuu 109, so close to full 110 main fleet

[odd schooner]

Like after camping since reset and after 3 refresh with time interval, no one moves

[elder crane]

Basically me, I've gone a full set of 5 matches+3 refresh yesterday with no one moving

It's pretty RNG sometimes
At least it usually evens out as time passes

[elfin summit]

What is the point of Yukikaze in PvP? I see her in tops of PvP tier lists, though nothing special in her skills or stats. What am I missing?

she will be in next event, so I want to know how to use her properly...

[vague token]

big durability boost to backline without being completely hard countered by aurora

[modern tree]

You see nothing special in her ability to take 1 damage instead of 5k from an attack and backline protection with emergency heal on top of that?

[vague token]

she's like soft countered by aurora but hey if the RNG gods are with you

you could negate a 2k bomb

or a 406 shell

[elder crane]

She has the excellent base IJN DD stats, with a powerful self dred and backline protection

[vague token]

that's why i said soft counter xD

also use fire

or flood i guess

once that is out

and... this is a meme so dont use it: glowworm ramming damage

[ivory vine]

the only downside to nanoda

is she still dies to burn

[vague token]

if you use sara kai you can cause flood and burn at the same time!

xD

[elfin summit]

Well, regarding her heal - does it actually useful? Since when the backline actually will be gamaged down to 20%, I'm afraid no Yukikaze will be available as well as whole vanguard itself...

[elder crane]

Don't discount her stats too, even with no skills boosting it she's still a very good torpedo ship

[modern tree]

just run boiler+fire extinguisher, dodge shells and fires

[ivory vine]

she has decent torp stats

pretty high evasion

98 luck

backline dmg reduction

backline heal

[vague token]

she's fortune but tankier

[ivory vine]

25% chance to take 1 dmg

yeah idk why this bote is good

[elder crane]

Basically a better fortune

[ivory vine]

also her barrage is decent

[elder crane]

tankier, more damage potential

[ivory vine]

but in pvp that matters barely anything

[vague token]

basically: power creep

[modern tree]

oh and also torp barrage

[vague token]

use her in pve, use her pvp

use her she t0

[elder crane]

IJN powercreeps HMS so much

[ivory vine]

yeah torp barrage

[vague token]

lol

[ivory vine]

and she's more likely to live long enough to proc her barrage

[elder crane]

Nagato vs QE, ykkz vs fortune

[ivory vine]

nagato vs qe isnt nearly as bad as mikasa vs nagato

[elder crane]

QE at least still has retrofit potential in the future, fortune is already retro

[shy hazel]

inb4 kai2

[modern tree]

QE buff is really dumb, but she is from the times where ships had one skill max so she suffers

[shy hazel]

[ivory vine]

i really hope qe doesnt get a retro tbh

but that's cuz i fucking hate qe

and ill never use her

[shy hazel]

the worst ship in a full hms qe fleet

is qe herself

[ivory vine]

good

[shy hazel]

[ivory vine]

the worst ship in any fleet using mikasa is her

[vague token]

personally i think good support ships should be weak individually

[ivory vine]

and she requires fucking flagship

[elder crane]

Yep, the HMS-no-QE fleet exists in CNJP for a reason

[ivory vine]

with no barrage

[ionic magnet]

but mikasa is waifu

[ivory vine]

yeah

i really like that artist

[shy hazel]

the only retarded ships that has good buffs while being good

is nagato

for now

[ionic magnet]

dont compare her to a mere QE

[vague token]

uh, amagi?

[ivory vine]

mikasa and the kongou class

it's a shame they're all bad

[shy hazel]

oops i mean flag

[vague token]

oh ok

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

was like excuse me

amagi is the most clear and obvious power creep in the game

[ivory vine]

kongou deserve retrofits

they even introduce themselves as fast battleships

when they're bc in game

[elder crane]

I mean, how many flagship buffers do we have?

[shy hazel]

when amagi was supposed to be

pr ships

because she didnt even exist irl

[ivory vine]

new pr ships soon tm

[vague token]

like, if you broke up amagi into 3 ships

each with 1 of her skills

that'd be old style

xD

[ionic magnet]

soon as in 1 year for en

[ivory vine]

the barrage one would be top tier still

[vague token]

probably

[elder crane]

I can only think of Nag and Mikasa, so saying ones "best of Flagship buffer" and the other "the worst" is disingenuous at best

[ivory vine]

the other 2 might see use in pvp

full amagi backline

[vague token]

lol

[ivory vine]

cuz she has bb tier stats

[vague token]

yeah

[ivory vine]

instead of the normal bc cuck stats

[vague token]

hood be like why does she get BB fp again?

[ivory vine]

why does centaur get cv level aviation?

nobody fuckin knows

[elder crane]

iirc Amagi skills are actually toned down from her original testing version

[vague token]

o.O

[ivory vine]

inb4 it was like 25% evasion rate

or 20% debuff

[elder crane]

People were like, "This is fing OP" and the devs actually listened

[ivory vine]

then it was still op

[vague token]

well her barrage is still bugged xD

[ivory vine]

also im sold on 127 on amagi

i decided to try it once

and she takes so much less damage

it even works in 11-3 farming sendai

[vague token]

25 aa is a lot when you have none

[ivory vine]

but i have to save oil for vdir

[ionic magnet]

its just ~5% but yea it helps

[ivory vine]

5% is a lot

[elder crane]

Now if only the WoWS devs would listen as much as AL devs...

[vague token]

5% times big hp pools, plus her debuff

[ionic magnet]

i want 127 anyways to kill enemy vg when the time comes

[vague token]

multiply all that together

and you get a lot of durability

[ivory vine]

sometimes their vg gets close

and she just melts them with a few shots

belgun has 1 use

and that's 20 extra fp

[elder crane]

Belgun for PvE, either for PvP

[ivory vine]

those have 700 hp btw

belgun wasnt killing them

127 was

tbtsk might

[elder crane]

??? I had the opposite experience

[ivory vine]

twin 152 didnt either

my belgun literally wouldnt kill them

i wasnt using hsfcr tho

[ionic magnet]

11-3? belgun does just fine for me

[ivory vine]

i was using that on boss fleet

for dork

prob why then

[elder crane]

the 127 for me would miss half the time

[ivory vine]

i left beaver and was using sg radar

127 was working better for me

[ionic magnet]

weird lol

[ivory vine]

with fcr belgun would prob kill fine

but it was barely not with beaver/sg

[ionic magnet]

anyways its not like firebotes are a big issue there

[ivory vine]

those are the only issue i had

mine isnt oathed

she's 110

but no oath

and no fp stacking

so belgun wasnt enough

127 was

tbtsk would prob work too yeah

i didnt intentionally test this

i just forgot to take off 127 after pvp

and it did better

but yeah i dont oath my pvp fleets

i would oath some of them but no ring sales lately

[buoyant parrot]

[vague token]

i oathed dork, cause =D

[ivory vine]

i have hiryuu oathed tho

so im ready for that meta

[vague token]

and hiryuu same

hiryuu is great though

she works hard

[buoyant parrot]

Oath + 10%, 200 Affection + 12% base stats

[ivory vine]

i didnt say oathing isnt a bonus

i said i dont do it

cuz im poor uni student

and i dont wanna spend that much money to oath every meta fleet

id do it if i had the money to spare

[buoyant parrot]

min-max lords here would be disappointed and they are screeching like an angry gay right now. Including me

[vague token]

hiryuu isnt strong on defense

she just trolls you

but offense helps her catch up to fox power

[coral wren]

Madlad

[ivory vine]

some people were speculating based on history that bunker hill would have a skill like yorktown or hiryuu

[coral wren]

Fusou kai oathed

[ivory vine]

and honestly if she had hiryuu's skill

id use both

for the cancer

put kirishima with gold 410 as flagship for the bm fireworks

[buoyant parrot]

I need ring sale for my Purin

i mean Bullin

[ivory vine]

i have 12 purins

but only 4 bulins

send bulins

[buoyant parrot]

Purin Lv120 no regrets

[vague token]

wow

true hero

[ivory vine]

im still tilted i had to get ning hai from ny box

[buoyant parrot]

once I'm done with my PvP fleets I'll work Purin to 110 then Bulin

[ivory vine]

[buoyant parrot]

gonna be hard for Bulin, she's too squishy but Purin is Plausible

o crap Yukikaze is later, I have no ring for her... Guess I have to really whale later

[ionic magnet]

bulin is the gold one right? i still get confused from time to time

[buoyant parrot]

Purin = Gold

[ionic magnet]

lmao

[elder crane]

Well, theres always the bulin challenge for y'all
Solo bulin vanguard in EX mode

[ionic magnet]

they both say purin

[vague token]

they're both bulin name wise

[ionic magnet]

oh maybe its bulin they sound the same

[shy hazel]

if its jp version

theyre both purin

[vague token]

no buli

[shy hazel]

in the en one

only the gold one

does purin in text

[buoyant parrot]

[ionic magnet]

no not the text

[vague token]

bulin says like buli in her lines

[ionic magnet]

the voice lines

they both say purin

[shy hazel]

i mean they're both named purin in jp

so ofc theyll both say purin

lol

its just en who changed the silver name

so if its en were talking about

[ionic magnet]

yea thats the reason im confused

[shy hazel]

purin will only be the gold

[vague token]

purple is now silver

[shy hazel]

for me gold will always be ssr

and purple will be sr

stupid crap why they even changed names

[lament lichen]

UR

[leaden sequoia]

both are named bulins, but gold bulin has a "purin~" verbal tick

while the purple one does not

[buoyant parrot]

Sirs, Do you have time to talk about our lord NANODA?!

Who'll be using Nanoda in PvP? in this group

[ionic magnet]

enough about purins

[buoyant parrot]

I'm too excited for Nanoda, WASDA greatness~

[lament lichen]

do it last minute

[vague token]

ill try swapping sirius out for nanoda

[lament lichen]

[buoyant parrot]

do it last 1 min so you miss 4 attacks then you drop out for this season makes the life of other people here GREAT!

[ionic magnet]

heh jokes on you i already missed 8 charges

[buoyant parrot]

[shy hazel]

dont worry

even is here so

more ppl will lose

[ionic magnet]

freaking interview lasted for 5 hrs

[shy hazel]

charges

[ionic magnet]

646 pts 4/10 charges

lets see if can still make it

[shy hazel]

what hooloo

finding a new job?

[ionic magnet]

yea i dont really enjoy my current job so

[buoyant parrot]

you better find one fast so you can support your Shipfus, You don't want them being deprived of food and clothes~

thought... I want them deprived of clothes I guess 🤔

[ionic magnet]

you dont say

[shy hazel]

[mental sierra]

That was a good set. got bonus on all except the 5th match

697 5/10

[shy hazel]

barely

[mental sierra]

Yeah I almost dropped 2 matches because I didn't remember until 3 minutes ago

[leaden sequoia]

FUCK

2 attempts left

[buoyant parrot]

[mental sierra]

⚰

[buoyant parrot]

YES YESSSS So many is failing

[mental sierra]

so now oxide is down 5

[leaden sequoia]

nah, 4

[mental sierra]

Oh I thought you missed 3 before

[leaden sequoia]

I did

🤔

[mental sierra]

and then you missed 2 just now?

[leaden sequoia]

wait

ahhh

fuck me some more

[ionic magnet]

lmao

[mental sierra]

getting rekt at the math game, too

[leaden sequoia]

I finished the attempt after reset

[mental sierra]

ah

[leaden sequoia]

I was discussing VDiR with peeps

damn you VDiR

[buoyant parrot]

I saved half of my Salary for this month just for this event

Yukikaze is T0 so its a must to get no matter the cost

I remember spending $420 for stupid Atago lol

that was pretty traumatic

[ionic magnet]

2 weeks only to roll ykkz

[leaden sequoia]

guys

I have a fun problem for you

[buoyant parrot]

I must get her 1st day so I can work on her right away. The sooner the better coz that would make my WASDA a Donald Trump Wall

[leaden sequoia]

how many nanodas can you pull with one kidney

[buoyant parrot]

the sooner I get her the sooner I get to annoy PEOPLE

[ionic magnet]

dang kidney op

[leaden sequoia]

three hundred nanodas

[buoyant parrot]

I'm expecting YoStar not to make this hard for me~

I guess I should stop working on my Belfast now, such a waste of Core. I could have prepared it for Nanoda instead

I'm currently at 14.1k BP with some broken numbers along the BackLine

SoDak's AA feels good man

[hybrid tendon]

I'm ready to blow 200 cubes right from the start and not getting ykkz

shit luck

400 cubes mullany 360 amagi

[buoyant parrot]

setting up propper expectation I see... A man of culture there~

[hybrid tendon]

🛩

[buoyant parrot]

Ima go Live with my pulls laters

[mental sierra]

hey, any news on that dude who cheated the pvp rankings in sandy?

[buoyant parrot]

we never heard a thing

[mental sierra]

but is he still at the top

[shy hazel]

@balmy torrent did u already get your tester stuff

i wish we got a cool color too

like grene

[zenith tundra]

@odd schooner look who i just found

now idk if i want to try some matches against that or just go farming since i need money

[marble sparrow]

Is this anyone's hiryuu

[odd schooner]

I guess it's losing some dps

You think i should go back 406

[zenith tundra]

frick jesus dying after amagi

[odd schooner]

So how's the feel on it

[zenith tundra]

ikd why but vg dies really fast

[odd schooner]

Switch 410 to 406

Or it's fine

Probably lvl

Idk too

I'm following standard bulge box

[odd schooner]

Except jints having dildo

[zenith tundra]

it's pretty close as u can see

try switching to 406

[odd schooner]

Like 2 381 1 406?

Or 1 381 2 406

[zenith tundra]

try with 2 of them

[odd schooner]

Or 381 410 406

Ok

[lament lichen]

trump uses one 381 and 2 410s it seems

[zenith tundra]

switch out that dildo pls

[lament lichen]

or was it 2 406

[marble sparrow]

Wats. Mbak🤔

[odd schooner]

I think problem with 406 is that you will only fire twice

3rd round is past 1 minute

[zenith tundra]

did u finish changing?

[odd schooner]

Changes can only be made after every reset sadly

I changed to 406

Also boxed

[zenith tundra]

it's a loss

[odd schooner]

How many times in a 10 match tho

[zenith tundra]

so far 3 loses 7 matches

changed to this. let's see

[odd schooner]

Can you also try no juneau

[zenith tundra]

no

[odd schooner]

I think majority doesn't bring her in

[zenith tundra]

i can but i'll lose

[odd schooner]

Ah

[lament lichen]

you need juneau for these types of teams

[odd schooner]

Ye let's try 406 hope we see each other next reset

[zenith tundra]

why is stuff dying faster with sirius

[mental sierra]

why wouldn't stuff be dying faster with Sirius?

[lament lichen]

aurora doesnt really do damage

[mental sierra]

Oh, I just noticed you took out Aurora

I use both at the same time

[zenith tundra]

i just lost ugh

[mental sierra]

ow

[zenith tundra]

keep 410

[marble sparrow]

I use both aurora and sirius too

[zenith tundra]

that attack before 3rd airstrike is too good @odd schooner

[marble sparrow]

Aurora sirius basically counters any non CA vanguard 🤔

[lament lichen]

thats what wasda wants

[mental sierra]

only been an hour since reset and I've gotten two people who moved a bunch already

[lament lichen]

wasda with jinstuu/juneau/bel?

some wasda team

[odd schooner]

So just oxytorp to box?

[marble sparrow]

Mfw all i do is
-sees wasda-
-switch plane from ryusei to gold barra-. - sees amagi-
-switch gold barra to ryusei-😂

[zenith tundra]

i got once before 2nd torp wave in front of main fleet but i would say leave it there

[marble sparrow]

I rarely care abt what frontline ppl use nowadays 🤔
They all die by first airstrime

Strike*

[zenith tundra]

that freaking lost just screw up my entire testing season

[finite valve]

at this point you should just bind the pause button on say like right click key or something lel

[marble sparrow]

Imagine enty retro : first airstrike cooldown reduced by 30% if she is only carrier

[odd schooner]

I'm sorry

[zenith tundra]

it was my fault

keep 410 i died to that

[mental sierra]

I bound pause to space bar

can pound that shit real fuckin' quick

[marble sparrow]

I just use a phone 🤔

[mental sierra]

I hate playing games on phone

[zenith tundra]

i just was retarded there. the lost was 100% on me for not wanting to pause

[mental sierra]

definitely wouldn't have even picked this up if I couldn't use emulator

[finite valve]

the only game that won't allow emulator is FGO no?

[lament lichen]

dragalia lost

[zenith tundra]

against wasd i might just use nanoda sirius jesus

[quiet adder]

Im doing well this squad, akaga and amagi squad usually getting btfo

Im doing well this squad, akaga and amagi squad usually getting btfo

[vague token]

lol

[mental sierra]

that's some discord lag

lol

[quiet adder]

at least the pic didnt send 3 times lol

[zenith tundra]

the problem with enty is that she's not scary on defense like amagi

[ionic magnet]

aurora is most likely dead before enty even fires once tho

[shy hazel]

more like

[finite valve]

only if you vs amaka

[vague token]

aurora only works with CA and belfast squads for enty

[shy hazel]

enemy front is dead before enty even launches

👀

[vague token]

you gotta gun enemies down asap

so owari da gets a clean 2x on enemy main fleet

aka doesnt happen

[quiet adder]

Torps kill pretty fast

[finite valve]

atm i am using hood amagi doy jesus belfap jintsuu

work fine now but dk about max amaka

[marble sparrow]

@finite valve FGO works on emulator now

Some emulators at least

[finite valve]

not like i care

since FGO is shit

[slender bramble]

how much rank differences do you usually need for +1 +2?

[zenith tundra]

at lower ranks is hard to tell because u cannot check enemies scores easily after 1050 score it's mostly 35pts for +1 and 70 pts +2 but it can happen that a 70 pts difference doesn't give a +2 for example because of density of players in a certain score range (dst season)

[slender bramble]

thanks, coz yeah was weird

[shy hazel]

sandbagging early is more like

you learn it by doing it

[slender bramble]

i guess it becomes second nature

[finite valve]

more like just check after every 30 min

[shy hazel]

nevertheless we just got used to it

lol

[finite valve]

if you see their rank is around 1k+ then your = bonus

[shy hazel]

ill probably drop aotn this season

[slender bramble]

I still have 5/10 but i tend to try and stay within striking distance to the top 100

[zenith tundra]

i'm already 32 pts behind lol

[shy hazel]

good bonuses

but hiking

[finite valve]

while it is good to test shit up i would say it is kindda irrelevant vs a comp design to beat amaka

just my opinion zzz

[mental sierra]

ayyy, 2 hours and 22 minutes in, 3 matches with bonus points. lucking out with my opponents for once

[odd schooner]

@finite valve trying to optimize cause, just because a player slap a fleet that counters another fleet doesn't mean it can torture the said fleet with resets

And it's hard to tell when you try to use it on offense

[finite valve]

for obv reason ofc lel

yeh

[coral wren]

maybe use +6 items

instead of +10 to test off

[odd schooner]

Done this reset folks. Good luck with nanoda later

[vague token]

[hot creek]

wow not even sandbag.

wow i finally fucking got sendai

her voice a lot deeper than i expected

[leaden sequoia]

wow wasting oil before event

[hot creek]

worth

[leaden sequoia]

yeah, Sendai is hawt I mean, PvP-relevant, yeah

[vague token]

deep voices are better

[leaden sequoia]

she's supposed to be the older sister, so it makes sense

I was surprised that An Shan got such a deep voice too

then I remembered she's also the older sister in her bunch

makes you wonder how the heck Fletcher has over 180 sisters and even then has a loli voice

[real notch]

Someone pls test my fleet reeeee

[vague token]

if i ever see you lol

[ionic magnet]

avrora yea?

[real notch]

yes

in my entire career, only 3-4 people have found me on ladder

but here i hear you guys meeting each other all the time

[ionic magnet]

you're too far

im in rank 1k

are you not sandbagging

well prolly can catch up in 3-4 days lets see

[mental sierra]

14 minutes to reset

I hope @leaden sequoia didn't forget again

oh he's typing

[leaden sequoia]

yeah, yeah, thx

[ionic magnet]

[leaden sequoia]

maybe @real notch sandbags too well

[mental sierra]

okay, got impatient and finished the set

777 5/10

[vale juniper]

@marble sparrow Mbak is Miss in Indonesian

Or Mrs

[leaden sequoia]

712 5/10

... I should probably stop bitching over lost attempts now

so that karma wouldn't want to troll me more

[livid fractal]

786 5/10 I got stuck at 9/10 and decided to just screw it and attack

[ionic magnet]

770 1/10

[leaden sequoia]

you guys lost 4-5 attempts too?

[ionic magnet]

i lost 8

[leaden sequoia]

whaw

[ionic magnet]

almost perfect sandbagging until yesterday happened

[leaden sequoia]

okay, got Hatsuharu, time to pull back to IRL

[real notch]

my sandbagging is really meh

i'm 0/10 and only rank 2

[zenith tundra]

why 0/10?

also rip amakaga btw. wasda is definitelly a wall for it

[leaden sequoia]

out of fear that maint might be screwed up and extend to over 12 hours

or double maint like the last time

[hot creek]

had to reset against a wasdA the other day

and they were slightly underleved too

but p sure it was just bad rng tho

sodak procced like two focus assault

my amagi wasn't proccing shit, and theirs was

[dull elm]

Enemy Sodak is always 100% focus assault procc

because reasons

[leaden sequoia]

when forming comps always assume 0% own and 100% enemy proc

just as a precaution

[lament lichen]

780 ... people decided not to attack lul

[hot creek]

im at 780 too

[modern tree]

I hope this wasda meme catches on because HMS seems to have no issue outgunning it

But I guess I should wait to judge considering my fleet doesn't get much better while people are still leveling

[hot creek]

its not a meme if its legit

and im pretty sure a fully leveled and optimised wasdA is cancer

[modern tree]

I am eagerly awaiting a day any fleet makes me reset after I put Hood at 110

[buoyant parrot]

NAAAAAAAAANOOOOOOOODAAAAAAAAAAA!

[coral wren]

What comp benefitd ykk the most?

[buoyant parrot]

BB

in short WASDA

[coral wren]

But dosnt wasda want vg to die

[odd schooner]

@real notch it's hard to go there ayy. If you stay at 5/10 mebi

[buoyant parrot]

the only VG you want to die is Jesus

[coral wren]

Hmm

[odd schooner]

Tbh the vanguard you want to die last is juneau

[buoyant parrot]

I want her to die 2nd

[odd schooner]

I guess it's 2nd now

Since jesus

I mean nanodaaaa

[coral wren]

I thought wasda is like the one u want to suicide ur vgs and then use ur bbs to kill off enemy

[buoyant parrot]

I'd still put Jesus mid

[zenith tundra]

can someone ping me in 1 min? i want to see it i get any notifications

[odd schooner]

@coral wren they still die so fast

[buoyant parrot]

@zenith tundra

[coral wren]

Hmm i see

[odd schooner]

Check zack's test

[zenith tundra]

in 1 min lol

[buoyant parrot]

lol

then all of us spam Zack in 1 min

3 sec

spam

@zenith tundra

Im so excited for Nanoda, My issue is where to place her... Last or 1st

[odd schooner]

I'll put her last

[buoyant parrot]

what you put jintsu in front?

[real notch]

yea i'm pretty excited for nanoda too

[vague token]

i thought jintsuu gets phased out

[real notch]

but also RIP 1 ring

and gonna have to level her to 110

[buoyant parrot]

no she wont

[hot creek]

i wonder if we're getting ring pack

[odd schooner]

Belfast jesus nanoda

[buoyant parrot]

Im taking out Belfast

[vague token]

ah

[odd schooner]

You will literally make nanoda go suicide

[buoyant parrot]

well it depends

[real notch]

i would probably use sendai aurora YKKZ...

we will see tho

[buoyant parrot]

she's tanky

she's one of those good DD Tanker

[odd schooner]

if her 25% procs

[buoyant parrot]

But I can't afford her Dying too soon.

[odd schooner]

But outside that she's still a DD

[zenith tundra]

i dont get anything from my app in phone cool

[buoyant parrot]

probably I'll make Jintsu as sacrificial lamb then

[odd schooner]

[zenith tundra]

nanoda in wasda should die like least tbh. u want her heal to proc which is hard in between jesus heal and amagi buff/debuffs

[real notch]

i am a little skeptical of YKKZ in aurora/sendai meta but

[odd schooner]

You need the extra padding on opening torp so she's pretty much mid or last

[real notch]

you know how CN/JP is moving to tankier VGs... that's why YKKZ is getting better

[zenith tundra]

i am more skeptical about amakaga meta rn

[real notch]

but if aurora and sendai are common then she might be at a disadvantage

[vague token]

i mean you can put ships in front of her so she doesnt get hit as much anyways

dive bombs are dive bombs

if her skill doesnt save her from those cant really do much xD

even with aurora/sendai debuffing

[zenith tundra]

i had 4/7 wins againat wasda

not really great

[real notch]

err

what was your VG

also do u have 2 cudas yet

[zenith tundra]

jesus aurora jintsuu

and i use ryiusei by default

[real notch]

1x ryuusei 1x cuda?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[real notch]

i thought you had better winrate with ryuusei anyways

[buoyant parrot]

mind you Zack is top 8 last season xD and that guys is PvP Pro unlike us plebs that can only attain aotf

[vague token]

i might consider ryuusei if ships get too tanky xD

[real notch]

lol damn is that ragnarok emote

[coral wren]

Makes me question if Ishould 110 my wasd

I dont see much use of them in pve well atleast not sodak.

[buoyant parrot]

I'm going WASDA until the day it becomes Meta then I'll change over to something again

[real notch]

yea idk

[buoyant parrot]

I hope by the time I change Monarch and WS Kai or Nagato is Out

[real notch]

i have maxed wasda and was testing it but

i mean

i never lost in attack

with wasda

[coral wren]

Isnt that normal?

[real notch]

(which is obvious sorta)

yea

and i never found a 13.6k wasda fleet while climbing

so i never was able to test

[buoyant parrot]

the only time WASDA fleet will have a problem is if you are mirrored with the same fleet

its annoying.

[zenith tundra]

i didnt have time to test sirrius against that because i lost accidentaly but i think sirrius might be a choice against bbs

[real notch]

if wasda is lv 110

it is probably gonna break 14k

[buoyant parrot]

im already at 14.1k

[real notch]

o hya

[zenith tundra]

gurren was over 14k

[real notch]

i'd like to test that

[buoyant parrot]

Gurren and I is way past 14k

[real notch]

i mean against that fleet

i'll sit down 1 day and hard test for like an hour against 14k wasda

then i'll conclude if wadsa is above amakaga

[buoyant parrot]

as long Jesus Die's 2nd its 100% win for WASDA

[real notch]

Yeah will need to see if wasda vg can survive first foxstrike against current amakaga meta

[zenith tundra]

frim what i saw i think there are 2 choices for amakaga against wasda. either u wipe the vg and nullify jesus heal or u can just outtank them with nanoda jesus

no nanoda to try and most likely 110 vgs wont die that easily

[vague token]

at least it'll take a bit to max nanoda so we wont even see her for a bit xD

unlike sendai who needs 0 skill books ;)

[zenith tundra]

i want to try againat with 110 nanoda sirius and sendai and see what is best vg

[real notch]

thats true

Sendai needs no books

[vague token]

for w/e reason

xD

[real notch]

Tho she needs 110 to be a bit tankier

[coral wren]

Hey u pros. Teach me how to 200 aff sodak.

[vague token]

yeah, but she can still do her job

1-1 cassin or someone?

xD

[coral wren]

I can +200 most ships excpt her. She is just so weak for some reason.

[real notch]

Its so easy to 200aff backline ships

Especially tanky sodak

[buoyant parrot]

use them forever. All my ships is at 200 affection X__x

except for the Sheffield experiment which cause me to lose last season

[vague token]

oof

[real notch]

Is that a ragnarok emote

[buoyant parrot]

yes it is why?

[real notch]

it's amazing

i haven't seen it in like 8 years

[buoyant parrot]

7 hours for Nanoda!~

[zenith tundra]

having to work at work instead of doing nothing

[buoyant parrot]

im so bored nothing to do

[hot creek]

time to load up the "other" ship girl game

gotta update my screenshot of oathed warspites

[odd schooner]

@real notch 14.1 or 14.3 depends if you are using double 381

Is actually good time to sleep for SEA since i was awake 3am~9am because no one moved

[real notch]

owo

[vale juniper]

Test :"3

Why so quiet..?? :"3

[shy hazel]

because theres nothing to pvp

[vale juniper]

RIP :"3

[zenith tundra]

more like we cannot play anything

6hrs and still going... hope it ends in 1 hr

[vale juniper]

So this maintenance already 6 hours..??

They said 8 hours..

It's meant still 2 hours left

[livid fractal]

Remember when maintenance used to be 1-2 hours earlier than the approximately time? I remember

[dense lynx]

so what will be a great vg with jesus and nanoda in amakaga?

[ionic magnet]

remember when maintenance used to last for only 2 hrs max?

[zenith tundra]

sirius/aurora imo

but i really want to see how deadly is sendai aurora jintsuu/nanoda

my sendai is lvl 96 just a bit more till usable at least

i think if u can focus down vg with amagi and akaga u could just win because of that.

like killing jusus before her heal is useful

[vale juniper]

Yeah I just now know :"3

I always use June, Aya Aya n Lola :"3

[dense lynx]

how does jintsuu nanoda sendai sound~

[zenith tundra]

u wont hit torp

jintsuu without aurora is dumb imo

id rather improve hit chance then dmg for torp

[elder crane]

Well, it'd be for landing torps on main fleet I suppose, which means it'll work better on defense

Might still be fine on offense
Probably still fine on offense

[zenith tundra]

i dont see sendai>aurora in any way tbh but i really need to use sendai more

[elder crane]

15% fleet buff to torps and about 45% more torp damage herself, and 5% more Eva rate debuff during fox strike if the flare lands, in exchange for no 20% evasion debuff during torps and risk of flares missing

Oh, and significantly lower AA damage on Sendai

[zenith tundra]

-20% hit chance for guns and torp and a flare that has a really bas range

i dont think u can even land 1 torp in the flare because of the timing

[elder crane]

So, rough estimate says overall Sendai over Aurora in most fleets means about 30-35% more torpedo damage, so at about 40% or so Eva rate on DD/CL Vanguard on average, torp damage on vanguard will be the same or better for sendai

[vale juniper]

Oxy Torp really useful for Heavy-cruiser

[elder crane]

Main fleet ofc will take the full 30-35% more, as will CAs

[zenith tundra]

u lose any hit chance for torp tho

[elder crane]

Yeah, which is why I said at 40% evasion rate it starts to cancel out

[vale juniper]

@zenith tundra Use Gold Gear for Avoid Ambush too, man

N increase Hit chance

[zenith tundra]

how about ur main damage... akaga definitely needs aurora more then sendai unless ca. plus sendai flare is not 100% hit

enemies can just walk off it

or be in a bad spot

use sendai and see for urself the rng of it

i dont need torp if my akaga wipes enemies

[elder crane]

That's why I'm laying out the pros and cons of it

It's not super clear-cut

Plus the lost AA is not insignificant when using Sendai

[zenith tundra]

the pros are better torp but the minuses are less damage if unlucky with flare for akaga which imo is much worse

nakaga is

amakaga is different

foxes with amagi can actually tank

[elder crane]

Also depends on situation
Aurora and Sendai together is overkill in some, possibly many, cases

[zenith tundra]

i dont see it because i didnt see any 110 vg yet

i cannot say is overkill or not since all vg are underleveled for now

[buoyant parrot]

still waiting

in the meantime I play Space Azur Lane~

[elder crane]

If Belfast is opposing, both is probably optimal always, otherwise, if no super high Eva rate ships, it's probably overkill

[buoyant parrot]

Eve Online

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze is coming and she is gonna be in any comp

dd evasion with cl hp

• broken luck stat

[dense lynx]

inb4 you actually dont get yukikaze on the first day

[elder crane]

Ykkz HP is higher than most DD but not CL high XD
Unless you start adding in skill and such

[zenith tundra]

i can see ssndai aurora being overkill but i would always chose aurora over sendai for 100% debuff to evasion

25% dmg reduction gives her cl hp

aurora killed all dds from pvp

even aya is only a meme

[dense lynx]

[elder crane]

It really was just Aya and Fortune, and sometimes a C class anyways

And Aya was a meme for offense to begin with

[zenith tundra]

i havent seen 1 fortune in forever

[elder crane]

with ykkz out, expect to basically never see her again

[dense lynx]

who?

fortune or yukikaze?

[modest elbow]

Fortune prob

[odd schooner]

Fortune died last January

Or late December

[dense lynx]

i thought he's referring to nanoda

[zenith tundra]

my problem is sacrificing akaga dmg for rng dmg

[odd schooner]

[azure aurora]

Fortune ded when amagi come

[dense lynx]

wording

[odd schooner]

[dense lynx]

[elder crane]

Time to trash her to recover ring

[odd schooner]

[zenith tundra]

i think fortune died with amakaga because aurora was a bitch to get so not many people had her

[odd schooner]

Oh it's up

[zenith tundra]

i just sit in front of my pc

thank you for the timing

[buoyant parrot]

EZ PZ boys Im done

Got Yukikaze

[zenith tundra]

gg

mogami?

[dense lynx]

jesus

[buoyant parrot]

done

done with Mogami and Yukikaze

EZ game very ez~

[dense lynx]

how can you live as a human being
without combusting

[buoyant parrot]

let the training beggin

[zenith tundra]

i build zui shou lusty and belfast before nanoda

got mogami too so i'm happy only 900 gems in whaling

[shy hazel]

im done with this event

first ten got all

[zenith tundra]

i did 3 10 draws with no sr

[shy hazel]

now to grind

ykkz is 27 i believe

[ionic magnet]

@balmy torrent lol we got exactly the same rolls

50 pulls 2 shoukaku 1 zuikaku 1 nowaki 1 prinz

atleast i got ise and hyuuga too

[buoyant parrot]

badabing badaboom

[zenith tundra]

zui build is so troll

[shy hazel]

i should post my indirect salt too

[livid fractal]

I'm the guy who doesn't get anything in first pull or so on and has to take days for him to get what he wants -_-

[zenith tundra]

160 cubes and had to whale for money... but got yukikaze so it's all worth

[shy hazel]

i only needed to pull the two new ships

[buoyant parrot]

the reason i whale gems is because Yukikaze skin

that's all

[shy hazel]

and i got them on first ten

so lol

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[shy hazel]

overloaded with gold rn

👀

more medals for you

[finite valve]

how many minute for 50 exp from skill book?

i want to clear the class ASAP for the cat lel

[zenith tundra]

ether how the hell do u build 2 zuis?

[buoyant parrot]

I dont know lol